thanks for contributing, a new thread has been created so lets comment there. Amit, our Canadian Armed Forces went to Afghanistan as Peace Forces and slowly gradually became Combating Forces. So, my role as a peace maker may not turn into similar fashion?

Sir, thanks so much for enlightening us with your wonderful views. I don’t think any mature or reasonable person will disagree with you. We look forward to reading more of your views.

For a better understanding of what i tried to say in my comment, it is aptly put forward in the following article and anybody trying to form a realistic impression about this complex conundrum called India is advised to read through this one..

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080912/jsp/opinion/story_9822829.jsp

Regards,
Varun.

I apologise if un-intentionally i hurt anybody’s sentiments, it was not my intention. Thanks Javed for showing some support for me but now that this debate has started here so why not make it a healthy one!!

Mr Tau-queer,

you wrote:-
“What are you taking about, i dont think you read my comment. india has terrorism in orissa, bengal, tamil nadu, kashmir, gujarat and now it has extended to delhi.”

Okay, Indias has it’s own set of problems but dont mix up all he problems, i will just write in brief and clear your mis-understandings:-

ORISSA:- No terrorism problem, more of Christian-Hindu problem, Who’s right or wrong i am not the best judge, i have never been to that state.

BENGAL:- Never had a terrorist problem, it’s more of COMMUNIST vs CAPITALISTS battle.

TAMIL NADU:- The demand for separate state for TAMILIANS has always found more support in SRILANKA than in INDIA. In INDIA they are only sensitive about their language(TAMIL) being given equal immportance as English, Hindi or Urdu in Nayi Dilli.There is absolutely no terrorism in this state and it is one of the mre progressive ones in INDIA.

GUJARAT:- Well It is the fastest developing state in INDIA, boasting of the best infrastructure( no Load Shedding and continious Water Supply) and business opportunites. again no terrorism here except the riots which took place few years ago and the people of the state are trying to get on with their lives including the Muslims.

KASHMIR is too complicated an issue to discuss in this thread.

The only “terrorism” we have, or which has effected the “aam-aadmi” or the common man is the Terror in the name of GOD whether it is RAM, ALLAH or JESUS.

“so how dare you call pakistanis terrorists.”

Did i really say that?

“meanwhile pakistan has terrorist from where? from afghanistan and tribal areas and its terrorist in karachi, the MQM are from india.”

Well this is a very common problem in WE South-Asians:- blame everyone in the world without having a look in your “phichwada”

“they have terrorist training camps in india and the indian government sponsors them. they should go back to wherever they came from. what the stupid thing Al qaeda is, its not pakistani and whatever MQM is its not pakistani too.
in fact its because of india there is terrorism and political instability in pakistan.”

surprise surprise…YOU KNOW WHAT EVERYONE IN INDIA THINKS THE SAME ABOUT PAKISTAN!!
It is my sincere request to people like you to rise above this historical/traditional hatred created by the POLITICIANS btw INDIA/PAK and try to understand that it is in both of our’s interest to move forward into the next century together and not as we have been doing in the past 60 Years.
The other day i came across a similar response on a forum/blog created by another Pakistani Friend where they were discussing whether TATA should market NANO in Pakistan and How good or bad that idea is? I hope, I pray that more and more people come out of their cocoons and learn to appreciate the wonderful differences this Planet Earth has to offer to us.

Finally, just a little bit abt myself. I am from Jammu but not a hard-liner, I am a Hindu but my soon to be wife is a Catholic from Ahmedabad( Gujarat). My father was in the Indian Army for 30 Years and I have had the good fortune to live in each and every corner of India.

Sincere apologies if i offended anyone…

Looking to post more on your wonderful website…and next time i promise i would try to write something on KIRKET.

Cheers

Varun Suri

What all these bombing have done to many indians is to force upon looking at history once again. And others are shifting toward right wingers .. this is more worrying factor than terrorism itself. Success of any terrorist activity lies in segregatting the social structure .. and certainly they are doing it slowly and steadily. This is more potent problem than other insurgencies taking place in india. And no political party is taking it seriously … some are trying to cash it on next election and some are just mere spectator. This insensitivity stirs me big time. Why we need political leaders, if the fate of country is being decided by random events?

I wud apreciate other’s advice ab’t some history books relating partition and freedom movment. Though i brought Guha’s “India after Gandhi” and Ayesha jalal’s “The Sole Spokesman” .. i wud like to read more “counter points”.

I agree with Zain- every party has a ghunda system and bhatta system. The MQM gets blamed principally for two reasons: they are not “sons of the soil”, migrating from India, and also because they don’t belong to the Wadera and Choudhary clans, groups that exert political clout and power in Pakistan.

Zardari has made a name for himself by getting people beaten up, threatened and possibly even killed. If this isn’t “ghundagardi”, what is? What about Nawaz Sharif, his party is basically a party of unrefined paindoos and whenever they come across anyone who disagrees with them, they become confrontational and aggressive. Look at what they did in the Supreme Court in Sajjad Ali Shah’s time when they beat up and threatened judges and barristers. Whoever raised an outcry against the Sharif brothers was also threatened or put in jail, or exiled.

The only 2 parties that don’t rely on such tactics are Tehreek e Insaaf and ANP . Also I don’t understand why MQM is blamed so much as being anti Punjab or Anti Pakistan when the people who are affected the most by their actions in Karachi are innocent Urdu Speakers themselves.

TERRORISM IS BAD, NO MATTER WHICH PART OF THE WORLD IT HAPPENS – PERIOD.

Some new names around and some really interesting points raised and discussed.

LS is getting better, exciting, and a melting pot of different views and liberal opinions.

Khan Sahab & Javed Khan …

Now with increased LS participations and a bit of frictions and a few ‘hot comments’, you guys (the LS Management) are keeping your cool and trying to difuse the situation which is great. Khan Sahab has always been a voice of patience and understanding and now Javed Khan is also helping him cool-down the place. ‘I am Loving it…’

Touqir Malak …

I may not totally agree with you on the comments made, but you surely brought about an interesting point regarding the terrorism and terrorists being imported in to Pakistan from Afghanistan and India. I guess your points are wroth a thought, but may be your timing is not very appropriate

It seems if India is openly blaming Pakistan of supporting, training and exporting Kashmiris into India, then it’s not totally impossible that India itself may help MQM by financing and training them. While Afghanistan is definitely fueling the situation in Pakistan as long as Hamid Karzai is kept in power.

T

Omer Admani, agreed that MQM has a bhatta system and they are ghundas but which party doesn’t have ghundas? The biggest ghunda, daku or dacoit is ruling the country. A bunch of Sindh parliament assembly members are ghundas and dakus. That guy who is tipped to be the future chairman of the PCB not only looks like a daku but, reportedly he has murder cases registered against him.

Can anyone raise a voice against Mian Saheb and his Sharif brother in Punjab? Or for that matter against any Chaudhry or a Feudal Lord ?They may not have open cells in Punjab but, anyone who openly opposes them disappears. Have people forgotten Ghulam Mustafa Khar? He used to openly get any girl or a woman kidnapped i.e., if he liked her. Even ZA Bhutto used to do khullay aam ghunda gardi and eventually paid a price for it.

Better not talk anything about the Sardars of Baluchistan where everything is controlled by the warlords. In NWFP the reason every person has to keep a beard now a days is because of the khulli ghunda gardi against clean shaved people. Therefore, to single out MQM is not right. Whatever the reality is but, most Karachiites believe that MQM has done a few good things for Karachi.