INDIA VS AUSTRALIA MATCH ANALYSIS + CANADA T20 REVIEW

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Khansahab reviews the 1st Test between India and Australia and also considers the T20 Canada tournament.

INDIA VS AUSTRALIA

India will take heart from the fact that they managed a hard fought draw after Australia imposed a commanding total in the 1st innings. Apart from notable contributions from Dravid, Sehwag and Ganguly there wasn’t much to write home about as far as the top order is concerned. However it was the fighting spirit and commitment of lower order batsmen Harbjahan and Zaheer Khan that was a cause for celebration for the Indians. Both of these players have performed consistently with the bat in the recent past whenever the Indian top order has failed to click.

Harbhajan showed he has a few tricks up his sleeve when it comes to batting, too

Harbhajan showed he has a few tricks up his sleeve when it comes to batting, too

Zaheer Khan was superb in this match and thoroughly deserved the Man of the Match award. Zaheer has come a long way since he yorked his way into international cricket 8 years ago. He line was on target and he caused considerable disturbance to the Australian batsmen and his 1st innings spell of 29.5-4-91-5 will remain in memory for a long time.

Reliable with the ball and not bad with the bat- a match winner for India

Reliable with the ball and not bad with the bat- a match winner for India

India will also take heart from the fact that, all of the Fab Four players performed in bits and pieces. This might disappoint those critics though who want fresh blood to be infused into the Indian middle order right away. Tendulkar could not break Lara’s record, but his 49 played under pressure did potentially save the Test for India. Dravid will probably have secured a place in the 2nd Test by scoring a 50 in the first innings whereas Laxman showed resilience in the 2nd innings. Ganguly, who has snatched away most of the spotlight due to his retirement decision made before the series started, looked convincing in both innings.

There is pressure on Tendulkar to retire, but he will get another chance to break Lara's record

There is pressure on Tendulkar to retire, but he will get another chance to break Lara's record

Questions are being raised about Kumble’s declining bowling performance. He is struggling to grab wickets and appears far from from his best. It will be interesting to see when the retirement decision comes from him. Most people will agree Dhoni is ready for Test captaincy.

The second Test starts on Friday and India will probably go with the same line up. The Mohali pitch traditionally favours pace bolwing more although in the very recent past it has also produced cracks to assist the spinners. It has been discussed on LS before that Harbhajan is the in form player for India and Kumble is the captain, so India has no option but to go with two spinners. It is recommended to go with an extra pacer but that would mean one of India’s Fab Four would have to sit out.

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CANADA T20 REVIEW

We saw a highly charged and for most period, competitive T20 tournament. There have been far more negatives than positives for Pakistan in this tournament and this review will analyse those. Shoaib Malik’s captaincy again came under the scanner as he made some unforgivable mistakes. In two crucial matches Malik did not let Umar Gul bowl his full quota of 4 overs.

Malik disappointed fans once again with his lacklustre captaincy

Malik disappointed fans once again with his lacklustre captaincy

Speaking of Gul, he was fantastic in his tournament and appeared very threatening. Gul bowled with an average of 9, an economy of 4.5 and a strike rate if 12. In terms of bowling statistics only Mendis outperformed Gul. Gul’s spectacular performance raises questions if he is the best T20 pacer in the world? The reason why Umar Gul is successful in this format is because he bowls wicket-to-wicket, uses good variation and the limit of 4 overs allows him to bowl many fast yorkers.

Umar Gul is on the rise

Umar Gul is on the rise

Another success story was Fawad Alam, whose 3 sixes were the turning point of the match against Sri Lanka which enabled Pakistan to enter the final. His talent was never in doubt but he needed a platform to showcase it and was lucky that he got a chance despite going against his natural style of batting, which is similar to Michael Bevan’s.

Has Pakistan found a match winner in Alam?

Has Pakistan found a match winner in Alam?

The new PCB administration needs to decide how it will handle the following concerns:

1) Shoaib Akhtar’s lack of commitment- Shoaib was a liability in this tournament and single handedly lost Pakistan the final

The time has come for once and for all for Actor to say goodbye to Pakistan cricket

The time has come for once and for all for Actor to say goodbye to Pakistan cricket

2) Sohail Tanvir’s ineffective bolwing performance- will he go down the same route as Mohammad Sami and Rana Naved?

3) Malik’s uninspiring captaincy. Consider a) The different batting positions Afridi was used in, b) Fawad being sent in at no 9, c) Gul not being able to finish his quota, being the most reliable bowler in the squad, d) Attitude towards Sohail Khan who only got to bowl 1 over in the whole tournament, e) The over utilisation of Shoaib Khan who appeared mediocre at best, f) Inability to handle Shoaib Akhtar and Sohail Tanvir……no captain has been able to handle Akhtar’s destructive behaviour but Malik should have advised Akhtar to bowl with some sense in the final

4) Misbah’s role in the team- in this Cup Misbah only made 60 runs with a strike rate of 97- clearly not in line with what is expected from a T20 specialist

5) Selection issues- the time has come to decide,  a) whether Malik should remain as the captain, b) whether Younis Khan is needed in limited overs’ cricket, c) what role Misbah ul Haq is performing in the team as he has not been able to win matches for Pakistan, d) whether people like Nasir Jamshed, Saeed Ajmal and Khurram Manzoor should be considered to serve Pakistan cricket in the future.

Bear in mind that nothing positive is expected to materialise from the new PCB administration because we are expected to see the same faces that have ruined Pakistan cricket like Saleem Altaf and Aamir Sohail.

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  1. #1 by khansahab on October 14, 2008 - 11:57 AM

    You can see below Imran Khan is blabbing again. Most Pakistanis want him to manage cricket in the country. Why can’t he leave politics and work with the PCB? If he contributes positively to the PCB his party will get many more supporters and people will actually think he is competent enough to manage and govern the country.

    Domestic set-up needs a revamp – Imran

    Cricinfo staff

    October 14, 2008

    Imran Khan, the former Pakistan captain, believes a revamp is needed in the domestic structure of the game in the country, with fewer teams in the fray and a more professional body at the helm.

    “Pakistani cricket needs to become truly professional; it needs to be made into an institution,” Imran said in an interview to pakpassion.net. “These departments [teams] are a cancer within Pakistani cricket, we need to get rid of them and replace them with a maximum of seven regional first-class teams.” Pakistan’s domestic first-class competition, the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy, was contested by 13 regional teams and nine departments [SNGPL, the Gas department, won] in 2007-08.

    “These teams should be represented by regional associations with elected members and the chairman of the PCB should be someone who is elected by the same regional associations.”

    Under the current system, Pakistan’s president appoints the chairman of the PCB, one which Imran felt must be done away with. “We need to separate politics and sport. It’s unacceptable for the head of state to appoint the PCB Chairman. This ad-hoc system needs to stop, we need a full-time salaried head of the PCB who is selected solely on merit and not because of his connections. It’s not rocket science, it’s the same system in place elsewhere.”

    Imran did not, however, blame the PCB for the Champions Trophy postponement, nor the teams reluctant to visit the country. “I don’t think there was anything else they could have done to change the decision that was made,” he said. “The PCB are paying for the mess we made when we joined someone else’s war and made it into our war. Because of that decision we now have a domestic situation that understandably makes other teams reluctant to tour Pakistan. I don’t think we can blame the teams in isolation, they were just following the advice given to them by their foreign offices about Pakistan being a dangerous and unsafe place.”

  2. #2 by Amit. P on October 14, 2008 - 12:54 PM

    Incidentally i read Imran’s interview before coming upto this thread. And not to say, i am quite impressed …. he is not favoring “rocket science” to bring back pak cricket on the line. What he is backing we already discussed in some previous threads .. that is to democratize the whole PCB from regional level to national level. Looking at the current setup he can’t join PCB through “undemocratic” (read via nomination) means, since he himself is the torch bearer of democracy in Pakistan. He can challenge this whole setup from outside but cant after getting in. Its so contradictory. I myself was wondering for sometime that why he is so reluctant to join PCB … now he cleared everything in his last interview … at least for me.

    I missed most of the part of the first test. Going by the scoreboard its high time for all fab 4 to say “alvida” to international cricket … including Sachin. Any playing 11 chosen from domestic level in india will surely score 350+ runs against this weak oz bowling line-up (in India) …. so no need for getting relentless about who will replace these guys. Raina, Rohit, Badri, Kohli, Yuvraj etc can score runs at an average of 35 to 40 that fab 4s are scoring for recent past. I am really hoping that Kumble will miss the next test due to shoulder injury ….. even Ojha can take 3 to 4 wickets in a test on Indian soil. Most importantly we have dhoni as a captain.

    Certainly Shoaib Akhtar single handedly lost the final for pakistan. What the waste was that 13th or 14 th over that he bowled …. i was just looking at scoreboard at crickinfo … and he was doing nothing but leaking boundaries.

  3. #3 by khansahab on October 14, 2008 - 1:33 PM

    Munir sahab

    In response to your previous comment, I agree with what you said, even the suggestion about killing Shoaib Akhtar :)

    You mentioned a very good point about captaincy- Afridi has those essential qualities which Malik doesn’t.

    And yes Misbah is definitely not worth the hype- he is a good batsman still and no one is denying that, but he is no match winning material. His elevation to vice captaincy was way too premature.

  4. #4 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 14, 2008 - 1:57 PM

    Oh, I didn’t realize that I wrote a comment on a new thread. After posting my comment that I saw the new photographs and read the thread, Khansahab good analysis of both games, test and T20 and you are on spot.

    I will write later BUT, its good to see amit.P coming back to the blog and adding his views. amit, it seems like you have responded to Munir’s call? But on theossa Munir has almost wasted his breath with a lambee pukaar, but theossa is with Natalie and to separate the two is very difficult at the moment, khocha tum usskaa “peecha” choro aur wapas ao.

  5. #5 by Mohamed Anfaal on October 14, 2008 - 2:04 PM

    Nice review of both the India vs Australia 1st test as well the T20 in Canada, saw a little bit of the test match the T20 was not available but followed both,

    India can take all the heart that it wants but can India win that’s the perennial question, India’s paradox has been highlighted nicely on this blog, Can’t swallow Kumble can’t spit out Harbajan so the lump is stuck in the throat ( na nigal te banta hai na ugal te),

    They go to Mohali from here it will be a freshly laid turf for the season and you can expect it to be a little up and down, as the season wears on it evens out and plays at it’s the best at the middle of the season
    To eek out a positive outcome they need to go with three pacers possibly Munaf or Irfan but that’s highly unlikely citing the paradox and may cost them the match and/or the series,
    They might win but that will be despite the paradox not because of it.

    As far as Pakistan is concerned cannot comprehend how their problems will be resolved, its getting much too murkier for my liking or for anybody who wants to see a competitive Pakistan side picked squarely on merit, that’s probably sounding like a far fetched dream right now, Hey!!! Talking of dreams we have the PPP ruling Pakistan right now which is a Sindh based party, cant they get their own Sindh based guys to run the show, I mean the PCB and the selection committee and get some deserving Karachi based or NWPF based players in the side. What say guy’s sounds a bit too far fetched I guess but what the heck no restrictions on Dreaming!!! Dude

  6. #6 by Abdul on October 14, 2008 - 3:53 PM

    How dissapointing that Pakistan lost to Sri lanka in the final of Canda t20 tournament. Paksitan had an emphatic victory 2 days before but dissapointed when it most mattered and yesterdays defeat just emphaises on how inconsistant and unpredicatble Pakistan cricket can be.

    From Srlianka’s point of view they has been instrumental in winning tournaments over the years like the Paktel cup which was held in Pakistan a few years back, the Asia cup which they have won consecutively and the Canda t20 is another to add to there list in this decade. The contrats between them and Pakistan is that the Srilankans can pull of the victory when it matters most and the captaincy from Jaywadnre is more effective and enterprising.

    Anyway lets look at the positive notes which have come from this series.

    – The emergence of Fawad Alam is promosing. He certainly has nerves of steel and is a talented allrounder and an interesting prospect for the future of Pakistan cricket.

    – Lets look at it from this prespective that we lost just one match as Srilanka did so we were rather equal on points.

    – Umar Gul has become a fantastic asset and the death of the innings and a fantastic 2020 bowler.

    – The spin bowling has done well especially Malik and Fawad Alam even though I would like a specialist spinner to be included like Sajad Ajmaal or Danish.

    However, if I have to be critical the batting generally has been a shambles. Were is Imran Nazir? I feel his enterprising tactics were misses and hope the Pakistani president will alllow him and be convinced to allow him to Play for Pakistan. And talkin of specialist spinner don’t forget Imran Tahir.

    And I want to slam the inclusion of Akthar . He hasn’t looked in the best of form and has already been handed a million and one opportuntites from both performance, fitness and ovcourse controversy.

    Meanwhile, India fought well in the first test match to play out for a draw and couldn’t agree more with Akash Chopra on the BBC bolg that the Quality spinner in the Austrlian line up is lacking even though Michael Clarke is hailing in the Indian condition with his skiddy left armers.

  7. #7 by Abdul on October 14, 2008 - 3:55 PM

    Khansahab, as you are a student can u please tell me what you are studying and if u have got any tips as I go through the phases of critical years of study.

  8. #8 by khansahab on October 14, 2008 - 4:08 PM

    Abdul

    I am studying the Legal Practice Course, a compulsory course for all students wishing to qualify as lawyers.

    I don’t know what you are studying at the moment but I am guessing you are doing GCSE’s? The advice I give you depends really on what you are studying. In short, never take anything for granted and work hard. Also, in the UK and most Western countries it is imperative that you go into a profession which interests you. If you are not interested in something you will not be able to succeed in it.

    I didn’t work as hard in my GCSE’s as I could. Your journey of working hard will begin really from your GCSE’s. Be nice to your teachers and send them Christmas cards. Make sure you have discipline in your life and make sure you always hold yourself accountable for your actions.

    Remember to keep a diary and write down everything that comes into your plan. Plan in advance. It will help you when you want to revise for exams.

    I can’t think of anything else but if anything comes to my mind I’ll e-mail you.

  9. #9 by Varun Suri on October 14, 2008 - 4:51 PM

    Dear Friends,

    After a week of travel and work, I was able to check LEGSLIP today with leisure and obviously there is too much too read and comment on!!

    While I try to catch up with you guys, just thought of leaving a comment on this new thread.

    I missed the 1st Test completely and also could not follow the 20-20 in Canada but now I am free enough to see the next test match live.

    It was a bit disappointing to not to hear both Afridi n Sehwag fire. While it has been sometime since Afridi actually ‘fired’ as of late maybe he is concentrating more on ‘firing’ googlies and leg-breaks, Sehwag has a good opportunity coming weekend.

    Also, i agree with fellow commentators that Akhtar lost the finals for Pakistan and it is time for everyone in Pakistan to say good-bye to him unless until he goes back to the GYM and regains his shape also demonstrating his accuracy in Domestic Matches.

    I came across this article on ‘Mushy’ on Cricinfo, I appreciate his honesty, straightforwardness and simplicity, and was interested to know your comments on him, Danish and Saqlain and why none of them were re-called again?

    I sincerely hope Pakistan finds more bowlers like’em so that there is still some charm left whenever we have the “KARM-YUDH” i.e. IND-PAK or PAK-IND, however i do not mean to say that the current Pakistani lot do not have the fire-power to throughly outclass Indians when we meet next year, simply because whenever Pakistan plays India there are some players who take it really seriously and perform better than the expectations and hence the spectators are never short of surprises. I don’t know if it’s “GARAM KHOON” or special liking towards the “PRASAD’s” n ‘SRINATH’s of India??

    http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/373799.html

    More later…

    Varun

  10. #10 by Varun Suri on October 14, 2008 - 5:07 PM

    Just wanted to add that the reasons JAVED has mentioned are exactly the reasons I give to my fellow Indians who always ask me as being in the Oil n Gas Industry, Why i never want to work in the Middle-East?

    I do not want to sacrifice my lifestyle just for the ‘TAX-FREE’ Dirhams or Rials.

    I can say that now because i was lucky enough to attend Schools and Universities and get proper Education which led me to a decently paying Job, but a lot of people in the Indian Sub-Continent are not able to to do so due to many reasons and only if I belonged to this Category I would have no second thoughts in working in the Middle East. Although i know the conditions in which these poor people from different Asian Countries are working like Slaves….but hey… Labourers are treated like Slaves in India as well so there is no harm in earning the extra Dirham for a similar if not better treatment!

    Cheers..

  11. #11 by Pawan on October 15, 2008 - 5:31 AM

    Hello everyone,

    It has been a pleasure to read so many different views and reviews on LS and I must congratulate the management of LS for the success of this website, which has become more populus and popular now than when I was a regular here. Inshallah this popularity will keep growing!

    About the recently conducted test between India and Australia —

    I think Australia did a good job from the perspective of a gora team coming for a test series on sub-continent wickets. In same breath I would say that India were not bad either especially because of the fact that Bangalore is not their happy hunting ground and obviously because they are playign the world champions. There is no shame in drawing a test when you play with Australia.

    Australian perspective…

    Spinner: Definitely Aussies are missing Shane Warne on this tour. He has left a huge gap in the team which is hard to fill, even for an Australian side. White is an OK spinner and nowhere near to Warne. If they want to win the next test, White or whoever will spin the ball will have to get wickets by buckets or else it’s going to be the same story – a drawn test, and may be even worse?

    Openers: Well, Katich and Hayden, both are tremendous batsmen, Hayden a master opener, but somehow they don’t seem to click as Hayden and Langer used to. Opening with Haddin or Watson won’t be a bad ploy.

    Indian perspective…

    Kumble: He seems low on confidence, predictably, because of his horrible bowling form. To me, he looks like a spent force. Honorable retirement at the end of the series is on the cards and would be the best decesion for this work-horse who has clocked over after overs for years without a question on his ability.

    Middle brittle order: Cheap match saving fifties is not what we expect from a so-called fabulous middle order. Obviously their career graph is rapidly on a downward curve and is going to touch the ground reality pretty soon. A batsman with age matures and settles down in his batting spot, but also looses the nimble footwork and agile reflexes which had saved his a** so many times earlier. It is definitely a hard time for these retiring giants and also for the Indian fans to see their heros metamorphise into mere mortals and worse is that there seems to be no solution other than the end of their life, that is cricketing life.

    The series will be remembered as the retirement series unless Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman can get their acts together.

    General perspective…

    The quality of cricket played between the 2009 Ind-Aus series is sadly sub-standard because of two reaons: a) The Indian team is carrying a lot of baggage from the past (fab five) and b) The Australian team has just been transformed from immortals to mortals due to exits of Warne, Mcgrath, Gilchrist, Langer, Martyn (All of whom were present in their last two Indian tours).

  12. #12 by Mohammed Munir on October 15, 2008 - 7:00 AM

    Javed Khan …

    I guess we had this discussion of equal rights in a foreign country and how expatriates are being treated in UAE. Well actually, without wasting much space and time, I would like to say that if there is discrimination, hypocrisy, biasness and prejudices in one’s own backyard then how can we blame UAE for that. What I meant is that ask a Pathan, a Sindhi, or an Urdu Speaker in Pakistan and see how they feel toward a Punjabi and you will get the idea (Khan Sahab will know what I am talking about here) ;)

    Are we not often talking about the Punjabis taking over PCB and having discriminations against other guys even within Pakistan ?

    Similarly, ask a South Indian (Tamil or Malabari) and see how they feel about the North Indians or vice versa. Well this, my friend, is all around us in every single country of the world, be it third world or even a first world country.

    Don’t we know how they treat the Desis back in the West, don’t we ? And that too a Muslim Desi ;)

    What the UK and USA Goras call the African’s till today after hundreds of years ? How come Desis be any different then Africans ?

    So, I guess it’s fine if they call and treat you as nigger, as long as they give you passport and so called rights, correct ?

  13. #13 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 15, 2008 - 8:51 AM

    LOL Munir

    You have taken it so personally and that too, to your heart. All I can say is, you will only realize the difference between the two when you experience it. I have experienced living in both places And, I mean it I am not trying to ridicule you or anyone for that matter. But, if you rationalize this issue you will understand what I am trying to say, Varun has added something more to what I have said and we all have our right to express our views as we feel it.

    When we discuss jingoism, nepotism or regionalism in Pakistan/India we know our rights and our freedom to speak against it. Can you do that in the UAE or in any of the GCC countries? Raise your voice against the system or the administration? aNO.

    Pakistan and India may be “phateechur” in terms of standard of living in general, yet an average Indian or Pakistani have more rights in his own country than the billionaires from India and Pakistan living in Dubai even with a UAE passport. They still have to go through the medical tests upon every renewal whereas, the Buddos don’t.

    Decades ago, our entire family were given the UAE passports as an honour, in recognition for the services to the country, but we never used it, the expired passports are still lying in one of the cartons in the basement. The land that was given as a gift to build a house was never registered and may be someone else may have built a house! There is something called the basic rights and by this I don’t mean passports or even the right to buy land.

    Yes, since 9/11 some people in the UK, USA and Canada look at you differently, especially at women who wear hijaab and thats it, but they dare not say a word against them and the strange thing is since then there are more women wearing hijaab, not only on the streets but you see them in colleges and universities.

    You have used the “N” word which no one uses it and if it is proved that someone used it, he/she can be sued and punished under the law for racially abusing. The funny thing is you can even tell the policeman here “Fcuk You” and he can’t do anything to you and people do that, can you tell this to your Shurta? In fact when the Shurta stops an expat he keeps telling the Shurta as “Rafeeq or Arbaab” which means “friend or Master.” You go to any government office they treat you like trash.

    No where in the world you will find this, but this is true that there are designated days for Arabi and Ajami (Arabs and Non Arabs) On the Arabi day if a poor Indian Malabari or a Pakistani in Shalwar Kameez is seen anywhere they abuse him and call him names and ask him to go out. Whereas, on a Ajami day when hundreds of Indians and Pakistanis are lined up, a Budoo would walk in and go straight to the counter/window and get his job done before anyone else’s and walks away and no has the courage to say a word.

    When I was there at that time there was a concerted move to ban the Malabari Dhoti in Dubai and when I asked some of the Arabs why they want to do that? They said, “its a very ugly sight.” The Buddoo employer fires his Indian origin British secretary for wearing a skirt below her knees and trust me this is not a story, I know them both.

    Even from the airports of all the Middle Eastern countries you’ll see the open discrimination, the way the lines at the immigration counters are arranged with signs, UAE and GCC nationals, UK, EU and USA / Canada nationals, “Indians, Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Sri Lankan nationals. And the kind of treatment Indians and Pakistanis get is very deplorable and that is just because of the passport.

    I would like to drag this discussion from this page to the Politics page, because it would be more apt to thrash out this issue in the right forum. So, lets discuss this over there after reading this. Because, I have to say something more on the basic democratic rights.

  14. #14 by Varun Suri on October 15, 2008 - 9:33 AM

    JAVED, thanks again, for apprising us about Mushy’s past, I was unaware that “Yeh bhi chillum ke pujari thhe, kisi waqt”

    But What is Kaneria doing thesedays? Is he playing anywhere? Any realistic chances of him coming back or Afridi can do his job?or is there any better Spinner in the Domestic circuit?

    Regarding the on-going discussion, I would also like to talk and know more on this subject in the Politics page, maybe this could be a topic for a future blog entry ..something like Comparison of Basic Human Rights in Various Countries or such-like…

  15. #15 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 15, 2008 - 10:05 AM

    VARUN, haan yae bhee unhee may say thay jo kehtay thayy “Dumm Maro Dumm, Mitt Jaaye Gham..” Ab darhee ugaa ker billi ki tera……. billi bolee meaow kahay ghabrai? Mail tou Chali Kaashi galay mill jao. :-) Yeah, he did exactly this to Waqar when they all went for Hajj separately and Mushy, Inzi and Saeed Anwar went together and plotted against Waqar. The PCB officials knew about their pilgrimage and no one but Waqar was blamed for being in absentia without notice ?

    You must watch this video on you tube a very interesting and hot debate between Waqar and Saleem Altaf who fired him.

    About that discussion I have already written something on Politics page and you can add your views there.

  16. #16 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 15, 2008 - 10:13 AM

    ……………. Kaneria was playing for some County in the UK and I am not aware of what he is doing now, he gave a few statements against the PCB and then was retracting it kay mai nay aisay nahee kaha ya I didn’t mean this or that etc.

    Afridi is an all-rounder and Kaneria is a specialist spinner they have different roles to play and Afridi bowls well on the sub-continent pitches. So does Kaneria on a turning wicket but he was very expensive.

    In the domestic circuit we have a new guy called Saeed Ajmal and he is pretty good, he was selected by Salahuddin the chief selector of the PCB who resigned recently because he selected Ajmal for Canada and Shoaib Malik went behind his back and got in Shoaib Khan the opening batsman in the squad who proved to be a total failure. But, Malik will still push him because he is one of his supporters, chumcha. And Sohail Khan the fast bowler was not given enough chance, he played in one game and bowled one over for 7 runs and he removed him, thats all. Whereas, Shoaib Akhtar gave 23 runs in 2 overs he called him again in the middle overs and that idiot gave another 17 runs to take his tally to 40 runs in 3 overs. What a shame for both Show-Aibs.

  17. #17 by khansahab on October 15, 2008 - 10:47 AM

    New chairman must give priority to discipline

    Wednesday, 15 Oct, 2008

    LAHORE: Former Pakistan captain Javed Miandad on Tuesday advised the new chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to follow the principles of ‘country and performance first’ in all his decisions, and said the players were more responsible for the recent defeats rather than coach Geoff Lawson.

    ‘Strict implementation of rules is the key to overcome all the challenges faced by Pakistan cricket at the moment,’ Miandad told Dawn.

    He said a lot of damage had been done to the national cricket in the past due to indiscipline in the board’s management and among the players.

    ‘Now is the time for the new chairman to take action against the culprits without making any exceptions,’ he said. ‘In the past, influential players and some PCB officials got away with lot of violations because the rules and regulations were never applied in a fair manner.’

    Lauding the new chairman’s appointment in PCB, Minadad said: ‘Ijaz Butt is a good choice because at least he is a cricketing personality, having played Test cricket and performed as LCCA president and Punjab Cricket Association chief besides being a former Pakistan Cricket Board secretary,’ he said.

    ‘A strict person at the helm can put the national cricket on the right path,’ he hoped.

    Asked to comment on the performance and future of Pakistan coach Geoff Lawson, Miandad said the PCB should first analyse the performance of the players rather than blame the coach. ‘The coach can only guide the players. It is the players who are supposed to perform on the field and win matches for the country. But see how inconsistent the players have been,’ he lamented.

    ‘If the last 10 innings are taken into consideration, none of our top players have fired on all cylinders and their showing has been below par,’ said Miandad.

    Referring to the recent Twenty20 tournament in Canada which Pakistan lost to Sri Lanka, he said no national player could impress with either bat or ball.

    Miandad said the people who now were talking about the poor performance of Lawson should have spoken out much earlier when he was appointed. ‘When Lawson was appointed I had pointed out that Dav Whatmore could have been a better choice due to his past achievements and I still believe that.’

  18. #18 by khansahab on October 15, 2008 - 10:49 AM

    Inzamam calls for experienced leadership

    Cricinfo staff

    October 15, 2008

    Inzamam-ul-Haq, the former Pakistan captain, believes the current team will perform better with a more experienced captain or coach at the helm. Pakistan have failed to win a Test – they have played six – under the pairing of Shoaib Malik and Geoff Lawson, and besides reaching the final of the ICC World Twenty20 in 2007, their only significant limited-overs win was in the Kitply Cup, which involved India and Bangladesh.

    “You shouldn’t blame anybody for the bad result – neither the coach nor the captain,” Inzamam told DNA. “The thing is that they are both inexperienced. The board should see that if the captain is new, the coach should be an experienced one or the other way round. Shoaib Malik and Geoff Lawson are both new to the system. Lawson hasn’t coached at the bigger stage before this while Malik was made the captain without any prior experience.”

    While expressing his confidence in the team, Inzamam felt the weak leadership in the PCB was also hurting the team’s chances. “I don’t think Pakistan are a bad outfit,” he said. “They are a balanced outfit but they are, at the moment, not being guided properly by the administration. At the moment there is no strong management in Pakistan cricket and that, I think, is important.

    “They [the players] are all of same age-group and they can make a superb side in the near future. It needs some planning and efficient management from the Pakistan Cricket Board.”

    Inzamam said an experienced player should be made captain. “They [PCB] should diminish the communication gap between the players and the board and they should give the captain’s mantle to someone who is senior and experienced. If they religiously do these things, they will get the desired result.”

    Pakistan recently lost the T20 Canada final against Sri Lanka. They haven’t played a Test this year and have only hosted two five-ODI series against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh besides the Asia Cup in June-July. Security concerns resulted in the postponement of Australia’s visit and the Champions Trophy.

  19. #19 by khansahab on October 15, 2008 - 10:50 AM

    PCB urged to take action against Talat Ali

    Sports Reporter

    LAHORE: The cricket circles have demanded PCB chairman to hold an inquiry against the Pakistan team Manager Talat Ali who failed to maintain discipline amongst the players during Toronto tour while he violated the set rules to welcome the former Chairman Dr. Nasim Ashraf into the dugouts dedicated for the team in the ground.

    A section of press accompanying the Pakistan team in Toronto, Canada to cover the event, has reported that players were involved in incidents of indiscipline and misconduct during the four-day event. It is also reported that a player was found dead drunk after official dinner of the tournament while some of the players did not follow the dress code or were not following the instructions given by the team management.

    The team manager Talat Ali Malik has been with the team for almost two years and there had not been a single tour that went without any incident of indiscipline. There had been famous incidents of quarrels amongst different players but not taken to the task other than one player. He also failed to handle fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar and only send him back from South Africa when he quarreled with Shahid Afridi but Afridi was given all the favour although he had exposed the incident to the press contrary to the contract of the players. The good management practices are meant to control the players to avoid any unwanted incident but just punishing the players after an incident was a poor approach under modern management theories. Talat is also quoted to have welcomed the former Chairman Dr. Nasim Ashraf in the ground and took him to the team’s dugout and pavilion which was against al the prescribed rules of the game and ICC policy to avoid any unwanted incident of match fixing and security reasons. The chairman has been keen to visit pitches in the centre before the start of the match while he had also been visiting the pavilion of the team during international tours and famous incidence of forfeiting of the Test match at the Oval happened while he was present in the pavilion as the member of PCB governing board.

    The team manager Talat Ali seemed to have been failed in coming out of influence of the former chairman who had always been supporting him for punishing fast bowler on chairman’s will. But Talat must have remembered that he was a manager of the national team and Dr. Nasim Ashraf is no more the PCB Chairman and even the PCB officials have no right to enter the pavilion. One must remember the famous incident of former Captain Imran Khan who had sent a former PCB Secretary Col. Rafi Nasim out of the pavilion just for entering without his permission. Talat has reportedly denied the incidents during the tour but the chairman PCB should hold an impartial enquiry and take action against the guilty manager or the journalist who traveled at the expense of PCB but leveled baseless charge against the team members.

  20. #20 by khansahab on October 15, 2008 - 10:55 AM

    I find it quite amusing Inzamam is asking indirectly for Malik to step down or be replaced. Inzamam was most favoured to the idea of Yousuf becoming captain because of Mullahgiri, but he supported Malik ahead of Afridi or Shoaib Akhtar. We all know Younis declined captaincy.

    Talat Ali has come under fire for his pathetic performance. Finally people are calling out against him; Javed A Khan and myself have been speaking against him for over a year now. What I find disturbing though is why was there pressure on Malik to sanction Afridi after the incident with Akhtar? Afridi may have violated the contract by disclosing the news to the media (there are arguments whether Asif did that before Afridi) but it was such an ugly and uncouth act done by Akhtar- why shouldn’t it be disclosed? There is a limit to uncouthness and Akhtar surpassed that.

  21. #21 by Rehan Khan on October 15, 2008 - 5:55 PM

    This is a very good thread-i like your analysis. i dont know if you guys noticed but Shoaib Khan was one of the top scorers in 2007-2008 domestic season in Pakistan. But Nasir Jamshed and Khurram Manzoor outscored him and i think selectors should have gone for them. This tournament was bad for Pakistan you have correctly pointed that out because the senior players did not set an example. To be honest I get worried about afridi’s performance…..more because i think PCB is losing patience with him.

    Dont forget Younus Khan was run out unfortunately in one match and in one match he didnt play. so I dont think we should square the blame on him. He is in good form and he is a good twenty20 player. I also dont feel pessimistic about Misbah, i think he was just out of form. He is our main twenty20 batsman.

  22. #22 by abdul on October 16, 2008 - 4:08 PM

    Khanshab,yes I am doing the general certificate of Sceoundary Education (gcse’s) examinations and am studying very hard for them and have set my self high ambitions on achieving a variety of qualification which will benefit my future. I am hoping to go into a successful career like medicine or maybe something like economics or business. But at the moment I’m keeping my options very open. So far I have recieved A grades in Engish and law and hope to continue this good work.

    The next 2 years are going to be critical and if I require anyhelp on any assigment it will greatly appreciated if u senior educated bloggers with you vast experience for exmaple I managed to recieve a top grade in business studies for writing about the leg slip partnership and the way it operates and also I managed to extracy some key points during an economical conversation between Javed A khan and Theossa.

    Anway Khanshab nice to see that your going into a high regarded profession such as a lawyer and which u all the best in your studies and your own future.

    Javed A khan I beg to differ the views of u once again about Mushy. Mushtaq has been an influential and instrumental performer for Sussex at county level and his records and performances have been formidable. You said that Rana Naved can even pick up wickets at county level but Mushy has taken many more than players like Shane Warne and Murali and has almost taken 3 or 4 times more wickets than what a normal bowler would expect.

    AND just to emphasise my point Sussex hadn’t won a county championship title in there long history of over 100 years and Mushtaq’s first recieved a sensational victory with the magican capturing 103 wickets in just that competetion and to prove that this was no fluke he repaeated the same in the back up years and in 2006 was just simplily outstanding cricketer winning the county championship again and also the c and G trophy.

    He is totally not a medicore bowler and has been successful for county to as he was a key member of the 92 winning side and also played a key role in the dominance of Pakistan cricket in the 90s. And as a perosnality Mushy is a great person who I also had the privilage to meet. He isn’t selfish and always puts others first and is a very friendly and inspiring individual with morals who’s faith has completely changed is life into an excellent admirable human being.

    A fantastic individual and a matchwinning bowler mushy was one of the greatest Pakistan have produced and one of the greatest spinners the world has seen with his lethal googlies and top spinners to decieve some top quality batsmen ie Steve Waugh and G hick in his golden days.

    So please think about his achievements and personality before criticising on a thread or post dedicated to his brilliance.

  23. #23 by khansahab on October 16, 2008 - 7:13 PM

    PENTANGULAR CUP

    The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has announced schedule and teams for the Pentangular Cup – First Class Tournament, starting from October 25, with some notable changes in the format to make the tournament more competitive.

    Tournament’s six matches, which would be played at Karachi and Lahore center will be broadcasting live at a local sports channel. For the very first time in Pentangular, the top two teams of the competition will be combating in the Final on November 24 at Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore. Bugti Stadium in Quetta and Arbab Niaz Stadium in Peshawar also have been set up to host whereas two matches in Karachi, two in Diamond Cricket Ground of Islamabad and four including final in Gaddafi Stadium of Lahore.

    Younis Khan has ruled out of the national first-class campaign because of his commitments with the South Australia, therefore Umer Gul would be leading the NWFP with Yasir Hameed the deputy.

    Due to the jagged consequences in the previous season of Pentangular Cup, mainly team like Balochistan – who hadn’t even won a single match, the suggestion by the top officials to split up the 75 players, thus nine players from Punjab and one from Sindh have been included to strengthen the Balochistan region, with Misbah ul Haq to lead the region, Abdur Rauf the promising fast bowler, Gulraiz Sadaf, Bilal Khilji, Saeed Anwar Jr, Saeed Bin Nasir, Kamran Hussain, Azharullah, Muhammad Irshad.

    NWFP Team
    Umar Gul (captain), Yasir Hameed (v-captain), Raffat Ullah Mohmand, Aftab Alam, Adnan Raees, Riaz Kail, Zulfiqar Jan (wicket-keeper), Nauman Habib, Waqar Ahmed, Junaid Khan, Shakil ur Rehman, Yasir Shah, Aslam Qureshi, Wajid Ali, Shoaib Khan. Reserves: Fawad Khan (Wicket-Keeper), Arghaman Elahi(fast bowler) Officials: Zahid Saeed (Manager), Taimur Azam (Coach), Sajjad Akhtar (fielding coach), Ibrar Ahmed (trainer), Liaqat Khan (physio).

    Sindh Team
    Khalid Latif, Khurram Manzoor, Asif Zakir, Naumanullah, Faisal Iqbal (v-captain), Faisal Ather, Shahid Khan Afridi (captain), Rizwan Ahmed, Fawad Alam, Danish Kaneria, Sarfraz Ahmed (wicket-keeper), Sohail Khan, Tanvir Ahmed. Anwar Ali, Naeem ur Rehman. Reserves: Azam khan, Ahmed Zeeshan Malik (wicket-keeper) Officials: Mehdi Hassan (manager), Jalaluddin (coach), Amir Iqbal (feilding coach), Muhammad Javed Sheikh (trainer), Asif Gulzar (physio).

    Federal Area Team
    Raheel Majeed, Afaq Raheem, Umair Khan, Bazid Khan, Naveed Qureshi, Usman Saeed, Ashar Zaidi, Umar Amin, Naeem Anjum (wicker-keeper), Immad Wasim, Sohail Tanveer (v-captain), Shoaib Akhtar, Yasir Arafat, Rao Iftikhar (captain), Yasir Ali. Reserves: Shahzad Azam Rana (medium fast bowler), Jamal Anwar (wicket-keeper) Officials Nasir Iqbal (manager), Sabih Azhar (coach), Rauf Mirza (feilding coach), Muhammad Yamin (trainer), Iftikhar (physio).

    Balochistan Team
    Shoaib Khan, Usman Tariq, Saeed Anwar Jr, Misbah-ul-Haq (captain), Naseem Khan, Saeed Bin Nasir, Rameez Alam, Taimur Ali, Kamran Hussain, Abdur Rauf, Azharullah, Muhammad Irshad, Nazar Hussain, Gulraiz Sadaf, Bilal Khilji Reserves: Irfan Ismail (Sr), Sanaullah Khan (wicker-keeper) Officials: Rana Zafar Iqbal (manager), Abdur Rehman (coach), Aqil Khan (feilding coach), Ajab Khan (trainer), Muhammad Tayyab (physio).

    Punjab Team
    Nasir Jamshed, Salman Butt, Muhammad Yousaf (v-captain), Shoaib Malik (captain), Ammar Mehmood, Muhammad Hafeez, Kamran Akmal (wicket-keeper), Mansoor Amjad, Abdur Rehman, Saeed Ajmal, Muhammad Khalil, Wahab Riaz, Junaid Zia, Muhammad Talha, Adnan Raza. Reserves: Adil Raza (fast bowler), Muhammad Salman Officials: M. Jalal Akbar (manager), Shahid Anwar (coach), Muhammad Bilal (feilding coach), Yasir Malik (trainer), Muhammad Asad (physio).

  24. #24 by khansahab on October 16, 2008 - 7:17 PM

    The players who get selected to play for the Pentangular Cup are the best available in the country. So our bloggers can get a chance to see the top talent in Pakistan. As expected Punjab is the strongest team with many international players and is expected to win this Cup.

  25. #25 by khansahab on October 16, 2008 - 7:31 PM

    I like Javed A Khan’s T20 team, however because of Imran Nazir’s ICL status I would include Nasir Jamshed in Imran’s position.

    So the line up would be something like:

    Nasir
    Afridi
    Misbah
    Fawad
    Younis
    Malik
    Akmal
    Tanveer
    Gul
    Sohail Khan
    Saeed Ajmal

    Since Younis Khan struggles sometimes at no 3 it’s not a bad idea to ask him bat lower down- if the team has lost many quick wickets his expertise will be most useful down the order. The reason why Younis is a better option than Yousuf is because Younis is a better runner and he is more fit. Also he can play more aggressively than Yousuf- Yousuf will always play the same way more or less and struggles to change gears. Malik is perhaps not as gifted as Fawad in the batting department so he can come lower down- it doesn’t really matter because Malik can play dual roles. However he needs to regain some form because he is still not at his best.

    A gap has definitely been left in the Pakistan pace attack because of Akhtar’s consistent failures and Asif’s unavailability. So we have to ask who is the best option? We need to consider which type of bowler is best suited to which type of format. In Test cricket it is more important to have accurate bowlers who can consistently maintain pressure. Pace, swing, seam, bounce- all these things help. In ODI’s you need to mixture- you need accuracy as well but you also need to be able to have good variation. In T20 the most important thing is to have variation and to be unpredictable for the batsman.

    A bowler like Gul can be successful in all formats, but a bowler like Asif will not be so successful in T20 because he has one set style of bowling. Similarly if Akhtar only focuses on pace and does not bowl yorkers or slower balls he will be unsuccessful in T20.

  26. #26 by Rohit on October 16, 2008 - 8:26 PM

    Khansahab
    This poll idea was very good but your posts appear too crammed. can u not make a separate page on polls i think that would look very cool….just a polite suggestion . no pressure :)

  27. #27 by khansahab on October 16, 2008 - 8:30 PM

    Rohit

    Glad to see you back after an age. Thanks for the suggestion- let me have a word with Javed A Khan and Awas. At the moment I am just trying to try these polls to see if they will work properly in the long run.

    Thanks for voting!

  28. #28 by Abdul on October 17, 2008 - 7:30 PM

    Khanshab, nice new addition of polls were us bloggers can say our verdict and niced to see bollers restricted to one vote only to avoid any biased and scandled results.

    I think the badshads should play both the Mushtaq spin wizzards in there forthcoming fixture. Slow bowling is a really key part of t20 cricket especially in India were the pitches seem to favour the spinners. Lets hope Imran Nazir will be able to fire this time.

    My ideal pakistant20 side will be

    Kamran Akmarl
    Imran NAZIR
    Younis Khan
    Malik
    Misbah
    Afridi
    Fawad
    Tanvir
    Gul
    Yasir Arafat
    specialist spinner ie Imran Tahir,Saeed Ajmal.

  29. #29 by Mohammed Munir on October 17, 2008 - 8:26 PM

    C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S !!

    To All Indians on Sachin Tendulkar’s World Record.

  30. #30 by khansahab on October 19, 2008 - 11:29 AM

    We all knew things would be different once Ijaz Butt would become the Chairman. Now Malik will have a greater say in team selection.
    Talat Ali Malik’s appointment was a grievous mistake and the reason why he has now resigned after 10 days of the appointment of Butt, is because people started raising questions about why the selector and Chairman resigned, but how come the team manager didn’t resign? He was as blameworthy as anyone else, in fact I would say he was more blameworthy for playing politics in the team. It is known Malik and Talat Ali Malik are very good friends.
    Yawar Saeed has been appointed the new team manager for the time being. What we are getting is “old wine in a new bottle” from this current PCB administration because the same people are coming back. I pity these people.

    Malik gets greater say in Pak selection

    Reuters

    Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Ejaz Butt has directed chief selector Saleem Jaffer to consult with the captain of the national side when selecting teams.

    “I have been assured that the team will now be announced after consultations with the skipper,” captain Shoaib Malik told reporters after a meeting with Butt.

    “The selection committee will convince the captain before naming the team, unlike the way it used to happen previously.”

    Former chairman Nasim Ashraf had given national selectors the final say in selecting touring squads and also the playing eleven for a home match.

    Malik, who was named captain last year after Pakistan’s disappointing show in the World Cup led to the resignation of Inzamam-ul-Haq, said he had asked Butt to give more authority to the captain.

    The board will review his performance as captain in December.

    Chief selector Jaffer said the talks had gone well.

    “We had a positive meeting with the captain and the chairman, in which he encouraged us all and told us we must work together with the captain,” Jaffer added.

  31. #31 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 19, 2008 - 2:16 PM

    Pawan

    “I am agree” Dhoni should have been more creative and aggressive rather being defensive in his captaincy. He could have imposed follow-on but he didn’t. Thats the first sign of getting chickened out. Mohali is not Bangalore or Mumbai pitch to be afraid of playing on the last day or the 4th innings.

    They should have continued the momentum by taking more wickets in Aussies second innings and that would have added more pressure on them. But, now the momentum has stopped and Aussies must be watching the Indians playing in the second innings. If they don’t declare by lunch then the match is heading for a draw. I will still give India an edge but, being defensive is not a good thing to do. You must have seen that players like Watson and Lee could drag the game longer than expected, so in the second innings the Australian top order will click and they may play for a draw because, India is not going to declare till tea. They want the lead to be well over 450. I would have expected this from Kumble but not from Dhoni. Anyways, best of luck.

  32. #32 by Pawan on October 19, 2008 - 4:25 PM

    Javed

    The possible reasons for Dhoni not going for follow on:

    1. Tired bowlers. Each of them had bowled an excess of 20 overs and only 4 bowlers were used. Also the Watson-Lee partnership had kind of reduced the confidence of the bowlers.

    2. Tired fielders. After 100 + overs in the field, I can hardly imagine any fielder raising his hand in going out again for at least 100 + overs straight on. Especially considering the poor fitness of the fabulous four.

    3. Yes, Mohali pitch does not deteriorate as some others, but it is will deteriorate relatively more on day 5 than on day4. Considering Mishra purchasing so much spin on 3rd day, he can be a handful on 5th. Remember, both bhajji and kumble were never big turners of the ball.

    4. It is always more logical to bat on day 4 than on day 5.

    5. You don’t want to go to the next match with loss of confidence of the bowlers, if the Aussies do the impossible of playing out the 4th and 5th day.

    6. When you have such agressive openers in the side, one is indeed tempted to make the use of them. Lee and Watson could also have been exhausted after their marathon partnership.

    The possible reasons why Dhoni should’ve opted for the follow on:

    1. Last session could’ve been tricky. Mishra on song, could actually shake up the Aussie line-up.

    2. Mishra is a big factor in this match and its going against the Aussies as I expected, because Aussies always study a bowler and make plans accordingly. If kumble wasn’t gonna play, it was more of a chance to play a medium-fast bowler like R.P. But Dhoni took his chance and gave Mishra his debut. What this did was to surprise the Aussies, who might not have planned for the young Haryani leggie. That is why he is such a big story today, not taking any credit from Mishra for putting the balls in the right areas, but I think one of the main reasons for his success is the under-preparedness of the Aussies for him. Why do you think Bhajji is nowhere as prolific as he was on earlier tours? Coz the Aussies have analyzed him to pulp, his every action and every little variation has been deliberated on. Same goes for Kumble. Mishra’s action will now be studied by the Aussies and they will come with some pre-conceived ideas about what to expect on the 5th day. The surprise element will be diminished to some extent…

    3. Dhoni’s relying on the openers could’ve gone against him had they fallen cheaply. He took his chances there.

    Overall, I think it is really tricky to say which is the best decesion in this case, whether to go for the follow-on or not.

  33. #33 by Ali Ahad on October 20, 2008 - 3:11 AM

    India has the grip of the test match. I want Veru and Gauti to fire all cylinders in the morning. They should aim to get 400 by lunch. A lead of over 400 will be enough to defend for Indian bowling attack. Dhoni has to give enough time and enough runs on the board for his bowlers to get those ten wickets so declarition will be critical. But I am sure that Ponting would have told his team that the match is not over as yet.

    As far as Pakistan team is concerned I am not sure how far will this ‘Wada Butt’ take the PCB but I think he will try to fix few things and by doing that he will screw lots of other things. I will post my comments about the T20 cup once I finished watching the higlights.

  34. #34 by abdul on October 20, 2008 - 3:47 PM

    India on the brink of victory and Mishra was a revelation with his leg breaks and wrong uns . This test proves that Austrlia aren’t as ruthless without there magic spinner like Warne. Cameron White LOL.

  35. #35 by abdul on October 20, 2008 - 3:58 PM

    What inspiring captaincy by Azhar Mahmmod as Badshads claimed there first victory of the ICL 2008 2ND edition. It was a pahetic batting performance which has to be said with no plan or constuction throughout the innings and certainly no anchoror to be the base of the innings and carry momentum through to the end.

    T20 cricket is about having a plan and constrcutin an innings in an enterprising style. It’s not about smaking the ball out of the park every ball and has more skills and thinking involved than many people think. A good t20 player will also have good running between the wickets and ability to fire well under pressure.

    Meanwhile it was a spinning paradise and the Rockets spinners bowled well and exceled on the spinning turf. Pakistan bowlers showed a vast improvement but I still would like them to have 2 spinners including the bounty of Mushtaq Ahmed to add to the woes of the batsmen alond with the intelligent and crafty Saqlain Mushtaq. Man , what a bolwers they’ve both been and won’t it be a mouthwaterin experience to seem them operating in tandem with there mysteries.

    Anyway never the less an emphatic and inspiring victory which sould boost the moral in the Badshads camp for forthcoming fixtures.

  36. #36 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 20, 2008 - 6:36 PM

    Oooops, I have posted my comments in the previous thread, and thats because the thread is so long and confusing and I ended up in posting in the wrong thread, so I have to either go back and copy paste it here or ask readers to read there. I think it would be better if I copy paste it here! So, I will do that.

  37. #37 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 20, 2008 - 6:38 PM

    Here is my comment which I posted in the previous thread:

    Quote:

    If everything remains the same – weather wise – India should record a win here. The openers played well and deserves a win. It goes to prove that whether its a test match, a 50 over ODI or a T20 whenever the openers click they make the job easier for the team and 50% of the match is won straightaway.

    That is why it is important for Pakistan to have a good opening pair, reliable & dependable. Since they cannot get one like Saeed Anwar and Aamir Sohail or anyone like Sehwag and Gambhir, they must stick to adapt a different approach for different forms of the game.

    For T20, they definitely have a good opening pair in Shahid Afridi along with Kamran Akmal or Nasir Jamshed. They will be wasting these players if they play them down the order because 20 overs is too little too soon to finish off the batting line up. Pakistan and especially the THREE MALAKS i.e. Shoaib Malak, Talat Ali Malak and Malak Lawson must realize this and make sure they do this. Otherwise they will end up with IFs and BUTTs and the team will never get a flying start.

    Pawan, Amit et al must be pleased with the Indian team’s performance.

    Unquote.

  38. #38 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 20, 2008 - 6:41 PM

    abdul

    on your comments with your unconditional love for Mushy all I can say is, your views are yours and I won’t change my views on Mushy because I see it from a different perspective and I don’t want to argue on that subject because, I firmly believe that the English County Cricket Standards are not the same as they were a couple of decades ago. The standard of the English team also confirms this, they are not the same team as they were before. Hence, Mushy or Rana are taking wickets for Sussex, Essex or Middlesex then its just that they are playing against mediocre opponents, c’est ca.

  39. #39 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 20, 2008 - 6:46 PM

    Chief Selector is now Saleem Jaffar – the guy who haunted Imran Khan for his one single mistake of miscalculating the number of overs in that world cup match in Lahore against Australia where Jaffar bowled the last over against Steve Waugh who hammered him for 19 runs and that was the exact difference or the number of runs Pakistan lost to Australia in that match, or else they would have been in the final.

    Its a pity that Ijaz Butt has asked Jaffer to consult Malak in team selection and there you go, there will be a Sialkot XI or a Punjab XI in every match.

    The pressure group must raise their voice against this stupid decision that will ruin the standards of cricket in Pakistan because a dummy captain who has no knowledge of the game will be playing a game of biases and prejudice.

  40. #40 by khansahab on October 20, 2008 - 6:48 PM

    Ijaz Butt has made the decision not to renew Lawson’s contract after April 2009. Whereas this is a welcome development we need to consider if this decision was made at the right time? Reportedly Butt has also called Lawson a “useless man”.
    How will Lawson react to this?

    I think this may negatively affect the team morale and I think the decision should have been announced a few months later.

  41. #41 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 20, 2008 - 6:50 PM

    Ali Ahad

    between the Waddee Butt and Nikki Butt there is a two loafed medium Butt called, Talat Ali Malak & Shoaib Malak. And you are right that they will ruin the game of cricket in Pakistan. As it is we cannot beat the second string Sri Lankan team which was without Murali, Vass, Sangakara and Malinga. And, we were playing our full strength team the biggest of all the asses was Shoaib Akhtar who was thrashed by Sri Lankaan batsmen and gave away 43 runs in 3 overs the worst ever figures by any fast bowler in a T20 game.

  42. #42 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 20, 2008 - 6:56 PM

    khansahab

    thats because Butt speaks from the Bottom of his Butt and not from his mouth or the bottom of his heart. He simply blabbed it out without thinking the repercussions of his statement to lay off Lawson.

    We all know that Lawson’s future in Pakistan as a coach is very bleak and his contract would never be renewed but to spell the obvious is definitely going to effect the team’s performance and also Lawson’s already diminished interest in the team will fade away completely.

    That is why they say get a sensible man at the top. If there is a Butt at the top, the head will appear at the bottom. What a shit load of Butt he is to be so irresponsible. My commiserations to him at the start of his career. Btw, what about the inquiry commission he ordered to investigate why Saeed Ajmal was dropped from the squad and Shoaib Khan was included in his place?

  43. #43 by khansahab on October 20, 2008 - 8:51 PM

    For those wondering how Ijaz Butt looks like, please see the following link:

    http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/image/374782.html

  44. #44 by khansahab on October 20, 2008 - 9:06 PM

    PCB Chairman Butt accuses Ashraf and Co of financial fraud

    Karachi, Oct 20 (PTI) The newly-appointed Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board, Ejaz Butt today accused his predecessor Nasim Ashraf and his handpicked officials of financial mismanagement and of ruining the nation’s cricket affairs.
    He also described the claims made by former Chairman Ashraf that he had got the Australian team’s tour to Pakistan insured this year as ‘a big lie’.

    “Even as a member of the governing body I kept on asking Ashraf to give me documents about the insurance policy as I was head of the PCB internal audit committee. But he never gave me the documents,” Butt said.

    “When I took charge and had a look at these documents, I noticed that the insurance policy thing is a fraud and nothing else,” he added.

    Ashraf, who resigned in August with the exit of former President Pervez Musharraf, had claimed that he had got the Australian tour to Pakistan insured with Llyods of London for around USD seven million if the tour was cancelled.

    The Australians, however, didn’t cancel the tour but postponed it and Ashraf said in these circumstances insurance could not be claimed.

    Butt also accused a senior official of the PCB of trying to take out sensitive documents from the Board’s office at the Gaddafi Stadium in Lahore.

    “What can I say. What these people are doing. But in next few days you will see what I have in mind for them,” he said.

    He also made it clear that he would not spare anyone involved in mismanagement or financial bungling.

  45. #45 by Pawan on October 20, 2008 - 10:58 PM

    Almost same situation was Pakistan in when Akmal and Razzaq saved the day for Pakistan against India at Mohali, not pretty long back.

    Indian players need to understand that the game is still ON. There is no room for complacency. If Aussies recuperate and save this match, then the draw could have a telling effect on the rest of the series.

  46. #46 by Pawan on October 20, 2008 - 11:04 PM

    Ref: Crifinfo

    PCB not to renew Lawson contract

    Quote

    “The day his contract expires he will be no more with the Pakistan team,” the newly-appointed PCB chairman Ijaz Butt said at his first press conference at the Gaddafi Stadium in Lahore. “We have no utility for Lawson.”

    Unquote

    This is so insulting for Lawson. Had I been in his position, I would have resigned straightaway. The new PCB chairman seems to be a no-nonsense guy. Hopefully he improves the woeful condition Pakistan cricket is in right now. I always believed that part of the problem was Lawson.

    Quote

    “We will suffer a huge financial loss if we terminate his contract now. Since we cannot afford a heavy loss, we will continue with him,” he said.

    Unquote

    Well, now we know the motive of why Lawson hasn’t yet resigned…

    Quote

    “Malik was appointed for one year, but his performance will be reviewed after his contract ends in December,” Butt said. The chairman said that appointing a young captain over senior players was not a novel idea and most teams with young captains had done well.

    “Look at Australia and South Africa, they have relatively young captains despite some seniors in their squads, but they are doing well. For me there’s no senior or junior, it’s the performance that counts,” he said.

    Unquote

    Now thats a bummer! So Malik-Lawson jodi might not be seen together again!

  47. #47 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 21, 2008 - 3:15 AM

    Apart from Shoaib Malik and Lawson, they must also get rid of the sleeping old man Talat Ali Malak who is a budda khoosat sitting there sleeping all the time behind his dark glasses and he is very instrumental in creating dirty politics.

    He expects all the players to bow and bend in front of him since he is the team manager. I reckon after winning one of the match, Pakistani players were hugging and congratulating each other and when Talat Ali Malak approached towards Shahid Afridi, he greeted him with a hug and said Malik!! I was later told by someone that Talat Ali does not like people calling him simply Malik, he wanted the word “Saheb” to be added to his name. You don’t earn respect by sitting there and doing nothing and Afridi & Gul are not the type of people who will do that kinda buttering, may be YK is too polite he used to do that a lot with Inzi and Woolmer, but not the other Pathans.

    Pawan

    You are being paranoid here, Australia cannot win and they cannot play all day to make it a draw. Its a humongous task for them especially after their top order has gone. So, just take a chill pill and relax. India will win, its just a matter of time.

  48. #48 by Abdul on October 21, 2008 - 4:57 PM

    Ok Javed we seem to have come to a conclusion but believe me English county cricket is the highest standard of domestic cricket in the world which features some top class cricketers and Mushy made a massive impact on the county scene with his magic and body language and is unarguably proved by stats the greatest overseas player.

    I feel the Badshads along with Saqlain will require and hopefully ultilize his mystery. And hopefully Inzy will be back but Azhar has certianly shown he’s got some captaincy skills to such a stage that he was awarded man of the match.

    Anyway in the international circuit congratulation to India on an emphatic victory against the world champions. I feel know Australia will have a decline in there dominance without there relainat bowling duo in Warne and Mcgrath and feel that the competetion at international level will be far more competetive to watch and therefore I also back Engaland’s chances in next years Ashes.

    Regarding the victory as said by Javed A Khan it was just a matter of time and that time wasn’t to long after Zaheer’s supreme spell at the beginning of the day. What a bowler he is full of credentials and what a prospect Sharma is regarding he satys fit he could be the Mcgrath of India. Also Mishra has proved an exciting spinning prospect and not to forget the young leggie in Chawla who has also got a fond ability.

    The Indian bowling attack is coming along really well and now they are a fiermsome opponent. Also I feel Dhoni should lead India in both formats of the game . His enterprising tatics are matchwinning and he’s clear and bold in his moves ie sending him at 3 to bat for a decleration.

  49. #49 by abdul on October 21, 2008 - 7:47 PM

    Standford super series is on the horison and what an apportuntiy for the ECB to win big cash money for the development of English cricket.

  50. #50 by khansahab on October 21, 2008 - 9:43 PM

    Omar sahab

    About Lawson, point agreed.

    He needed to go anyway sooner or later.

  51. #51 by khansahab on October 21, 2008 - 10:52 PM

    Kamran Abbasi in his latest article has expressed similar sentiments as Javed A Khan and myself, stating that Ijaz Butt spoke against Lawson too prematurely.

  52. #52 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 21, 2008 - 11:24 PM

    khansahab

    Its for this reason we need the PCB Chairman to be a refined, polished, well educated, statesman, diplomat, capable to run a multi million dollar organization in a very sophisticated manner. And, he should also be a person who can handle his human resources in a meaningful way. Ijaz Butt has no such qualities.

    He simply blabbed out the unnecessary and unwanted crap. Everyone knows that Lawson is not doing his job, in fact he was the wrong choice in the first place, to tell him through the media that “Lawson is of no utility for us” and we will not renew his contract upon its expiry in April 2009 is a senseless and undesirable statement. It will only create more negativity than anything good coming out of Lawson in the remaining time of his contract.

    Also, Ijaz Butt’s accusation against his predecessor about the financial irreglarities is a typical stereotype Pakistani style “Ilzaam Taraashi” We have seen this in the political arena as well as here in the PCB. The successor always blames his predecessor to cover his BUTT so that he can also pocket something from the coffers.

    Ps

    You know KA always get ideas from us, its a fact. :-)

  53. #53 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 21, 2008 - 11:29 PM

    Where is Amit, Pawan et all? I wanted to congratulate them for the well deserved victory. By not playing Mishra earlier was a big mistake, its time to say bye bye Kumble bhai. That guy bowled pretty well in the IPL and he showed everyone that he has balls (in his grip) and to me he looks like Saeed Ajmal who is also being ignored by Malik.

    I wonder how long Malik will be afraid of anyone who can replace him? Because, Malik if he is not a captain, cannot find his place in the team as a batsman, or a bowler. He is pretty mediocre as a bowler and only recently after a lot of criticism that he started to bowl and that too against weaker opposition. In one of the games against (Zim?) recently when he bowled he last over, he was thrashed for a couple of sixes and gave away 19 runs. His two clean bowled (wickets) against SL in the final were of no avail, the team lost.

  54. #54 by Pawan on October 22, 2008 - 3:09 AM

    Javed bhai,

    It was a big shock for me (although a good one) to see Aussies loose by such a huge margin – 320 runs! Well, congratulations to the Indian team, they worked hard and deserved the victory. About Mishra, he has beeen ignored by selectors for long. Reasons given for ignoring him were his height which they thought was unreasonable for getting extracting bounce from the surface. Such ridiculous reasons will only ruin good upcoming bowlers. Kumble has become a big dilemma for selectors, but for me he is a spent force. No hard feelings for Kumble fans, but I think he has come to the end of this tunnel and should retire to start second innings of his life like his Karnataka mates Prasad and Srinath.

    I thought Ajmal bowled pretty well against India in ODI’s and if I am nto wrong he is an off-spinner with a well disguised wrong-one, which was hard to pick to many of the Indian players. He ought to be given chances coz he has a hint of Saqi in him which could be pretty exciting for the Pakistan team.

  55. #55 by Amit. P on October 22, 2008 - 4:16 AM

    By not playing Mishra earlier was a big mistake ..
    And what it wud be like not playing him in coming two tests ….. it wud be a blunder. But this is the way indian cricket is being played …. simply pathetic … and they say test cricket is declining in India … well what to say now?
    A glimpse of hope can be seen in dhoni … but again the mighty question is when he will be in charge … or better put it like when kumble will hang his boot … After aus series … or may be after Eng series …. or may be he wants to visit Pak one more time … or after NZ series … this wish list goes on and on and on.

    On the other hand, it was puzzling to see the new oz mantra on Indian soil. Who the f*** has brainwashed them to play safe and boring like this ? Ok, i agree that some of the test lost by oz was due to ultra aggressiveness ( Kolkata 01, Adelaide 04), giving enough time to Indians to have a claim in those matches. But the new strategy is simply dull … they cant win matches in subcontinent by scoring @ 2.5. If rumors are to be believed, then Guru Greg, the new batting consultant of oz is behind the scene. And in the second inning when things were out of hands he apparently suggested to go aggressive (4th inning ?? ) … and players like Hydo, katich were responding rather “angrily”. I mean what was Hydo trying to do the first ball against Zaheer …. i rolled off from my sofa after watching this comic scene. Even Afridi wud have embarrassed by such act!

    A strong Oz team is very healthy for Indian cricket (or cricket in general) … whatever they have progressed in this decade has something to do with ass kicking OZ team and the number of times they humiliated Indian team in ODIs and tests. For the sake of India-oz rivalry, Hydo, punter, Lee, pls stand up and start kicking the opposition u guys are famous for. We want fired up Test cricket .. not the one we have witnessed so far in this series.

  56. #56 by khansahab on October 22, 2008 - 5:06 PM

    Khan and Miandad defend under-fire Lawson

    Wednesday, 22 Oct, 2008

    KARACHI: Former Pakistan cricketers Imran Khan and Javed Miandad defended under-fire national coach Geoff Lawson on Wednesday, saying the Australian was not the only one responsible for the team’s poor performances.

    New Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Ijaz Butt described Lawson as ‘useless’ on Monday and said his contract would not be renewed when it runs out in July-August.

    How can you blame the coach for Pakistan cricket’s ills when your domestic structure is stagnant,’ Khan said.

    Lawson, a former Australian test pacer, was appointed coach in July 2007 after the death of Bob Woolmer during the World Cup. He has not commented on Butt’s remarks.

    Miandad said Lawson was not the only one who should be blamed for the inconsistent performances of team.

    ‘It is not just an issue of coaching. Lawson should not be blamed solely. The players should also take responsibility and I think they should be held accountable as well,’ said Miandad, who had three spells as national coach.

    Khan said Pakistan needed to improve its domestic cricket structure.

    ‘Don’t expect miracles from the coach. If a coach could produce results without a proper domestic system then Bangladesh had the best coach (Dav Whatmore) and they should have been world champions,’ Khan said.

    Khan and Miandad are regarded as Pakistan’s greatest cricketers and spearheaded the team that won the 1992 World Cup.

    Miandad pointed to a lack of test cricket as one cause of Pakistan’s unsatisfactory performances. Foreign teams have been anxious about travelling to the country because of security concerns.

    ‘I think the former board management is also responsible for this as they were least interested and did not care at all for this,’ he said.

  57. #57 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 23, 2008 - 1:43 AM

    Amit and Pawan

    Good to see you responding to my call. Congratulations anyways and yes its a big big margin. Finally the Aussies are getting the taste of their own medicine. See what a team it is without Warne, McGrath and Gilly or even without the Bully Roy.

    The point is every team goes through a phase and Aussies are on the decline now. They really need to work very hard to maintain that same winning standards.

    Regarding the team, I think the BCCI or the selectors have already announced the team for the next test i.e., they will retain the same side. Whether Kumble is roaring or dying to play in Kolkata is meaningless because the only person he could have replaced was another spinner and i.e., Mishra and Mishra, in my opinion was MoM although Dhoni scored well in both innings and lead the side well, ( I was of the opinion that he should have imposed the follow-on) so he got the MoM award, but Mishra’s effort cannot be ignored. So, now Kumble has no room, he can pull a Kumbel on his face and like you said, join Srinath and Prasad in the commentary box.

    Amit – don’t we all know that Aussies are the biggest whiners? Whenever they are defeated they try to find an excuse or a reason or they show their true colours i.e., dissent and aggression. The best way to reply is by winning.

    Has anyone seen that picture of Tendulkar in fancy dress show? Munir sent it to me, its cute. Take care guys enjoy and savour the well deserved victory.

  58. #58 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 23, 2008 - 11:16 AM

    IJAZ’S BUTT SOFTENS UP AFTER IMRAN KHAN AND MIANDAD’S SPANKING IN PUBLIC.

    Public bashing works, after gyrating his Butt without thinking he realized that it wasn’t a good move yet, to keep his Butt upright he said, that was his personal opinion that he shared with the previous chairman Nasim Ashraf.

    So, why utter it in public now? Anyways, he got what he deserved. Now he can put his foot in his Butt or do whatever he wants, the words already flew out of his system and they have been flushed down the drain.

    Apparently most people with a sane mind are criticizing Butt for his blabbering, but some “Pee Dots” are defending him by saying that at least Butt has got the guts to speak off his butts in public! If this is an act of bravery then the Harvard School of Fine Arts should decorate him with a Medal of Faxxing (in public).

    Whats next? The West Indies wants to play two test in Abu Dhabi besides the three ODI’s? That will be some good for the Pakistanis, in fact the West Indians haven’t played much cricket though, so it would be in the interest of both teams.

    What next? Will they still bring the spent force of ACTOR in the squad? He can’t bowl 3 overs so how can he bowl 10 in the ODI and 25 in a test match? Knowing the West Indian vulnerability against the spin bowling, they must include Saeed Ajmal in the team, he will be a regular off-spinner with some variety along with Afridi.

    Will this be the end of Shoaib Malik’s captaincy era? If WI wins it certainly is. If Pak wins then for most of the fans it will be like another new chapter of tolerance, perseverance and swallowing a bitter pill with a spoon full of medicine. The doctor has gone but the hospice is still there very close to his Butt.

  59. #59 by khansahab on October 23, 2008 - 11:32 AM

    Javed A Khan

    Butt announced that Malik’s captaincy will be reviewed in December and that the results of this series against West Indies will dictate what should be done about Malik.

    Why is the focus so much on this West Indies series and what about the past blunders made by Malik?

    The reason I am saying this is because Pakistan will probably win the ODI series because West Indies is at its lowest point in decades and has probably played less international cricket than Pakistan this year. UAE because of the similarity of the pitches and crowd is always favourable to Pakistan as a venue, so unless Malik makes some major blunder, Pakistan should win.

    There are already rumours that if Malik is not kept on as captain, Misbah will be awarded captaincy.

  60. #60 by khansahab on October 23, 2008 - 11:44 AM

    Court lifts life ban on Malik

    Thursday, 23 Oct, 2008

    ISLAMABAD: Former Pakistan test captain Salim Malik is free to resume his involvement in cricket after a Pakistan court lifted a life ban on Thursday.

    ‘I have served cricket for 19 years and today I feel vindicated,’ 45-year-old Malik told reporters outside session court in the eastern city of Lahore.

    Civil judge Malik Mohammad Altaf ruled in favor of Malik and quashed the ban imposed for match fixing.

    The Pakistan Cricket Board put a life ban on Malik’s involvement in the game after a PCB-appointed inquiry, beginning in 1999 and ending in 2000 _ implicated him in fixing international matches.

    Australian players Shane Warne, Mark Waugh and Tim May accused Malik of offering them bribes to underperform during their tour of Pakistan in 1994.

    Two lower courts earlier refused to hear Malik’s appeal, but a three-judge panel of the Supreme Court in May directed a court in Lahore to record evidence and reach a verdict.

    ‘I want to make a cricket academy for youngsters and will soon start the project,’ Malik said.

    The PCB legal adviser Tafazzul Rizvi said the board will honor Thursday’s court ruling.

    ‘PCB did not impose the ban, we just implemented the recommendations of inquiry tribunal,’ Rizvi told the Associated Press.

    ‘We will honor the decision of session court and will not file an appeal against the ruling.’

    Malik said that he had got an offer to play in the Indian Cricket League, the non-sanctioned Twenty20 competition run by former India captain Kapil Dev.

    ‘He (Kapil) has offered me to play in the Indian Cricket League, but I don’t think so I can play competitive cricket after staying out from it for the last eight-nine years,’ Malik said.

    Despite his life ban, Malik said he had twice met new PCB chairman Ijaz Butt since he was appointed to the position earlier this month.

    ‘I had two meetings with Mr. Butt and if I am given an opportunity to serve Pakistan cricket in any capacity, I am more than willing to do that,’ Malik said.

    Former Pakistan paceman Ata-ur-Rehman was among those who gave evidence to the 1999-2000 PCB inquiry about the prevalence of match-fixing by his Pakistan teammates. He later retracted his comments, prompting the inquiry judge to warn him against committing perjury.

    Rehman also received a life ban from cricket for match fixing, but that was revoked by the International Cricket Council in 2006.

    Malik played 103 tests and 263 one-day internationals between 1981 and 1999. He captained the team in 12 tests and 34 one-day games.

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