LEGSLIP

Wow Abdul Razzaq came and smashed two sixes in a row of Collingwood, thats the aanhaan, aanhaan I like it. I dunno what the rest of the 5 players who got out were doing? Imran Farhat and Imran Nazir like I said, are hopeless players and Malik the less we talk about him, the better it is about his batting and captaincy. And, what was Akhroat doing again? Trying to hit aimless sixes down into the throat of a fielder.

Gul is totally out of form, there is something wrong with his length, Waqar should be able to spot it and correct him. In both these ODI’s he was targeted by the English players and he is the most expensive bowler in the team.

Razzaq going berserk again, another SIX to Wright. He is on fire, 24 in 8 balls a strike rate of 300 at the moment and he has reduced the target to mere 43 in 30 balls, a few more sixes and there you go.

Alam is out, he tried to hit a six and got out in the deep. Abdul Razzaq is the key now, Yasar Arafat and Gul can also hammer a few fours and sixes.

Abdul Razzaq needs to hit a couple of boundaries or sixes here to ease the pressure, they should not take it to the last over 17 runs in 12 balls needed now.

Bresnon will bowl the last over, Shahzad on debut bowling well for England is on the attack now. There goes Abdul Razzaq with a massive SIX.

Abdul Razzaq did not disappoint, he hit a couple more sixes as I expected and he once again remained not out on 46 in 18 balls a strike rate of 256. Match over.

Malik should not be happy that Pakistan has won under his captaincy, it was all Abdul Razzaq’s effort, single handedly he has won this match for Pakistan and he has proved that you cannot ignore him in T20.

some how the link of Manoj Prabhakar chewing the ball is not working on the thread, but here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O55vOZYXlpk

Khansahab could you please look into this and insert the link in the thread? thanks.

khansahab

Pls. check it again, as there is nothing on my computer, not even the URL, whereas you say it appears as a video link and works perfectly. I used Mozilla Firefox and then just to reconfirm, I checked it on Internet Explorer, in fact there is a big empty space appearing on the left and also on the bottom of Tendulkar’s photo. So, I am not sure, what you are talking about?

Anyways, Malik in his speech got stuck on the word AWESOME, perhaps this is a new word he has learnt and repeating like a parrot, earlier he used to say superb. And, because this was a win, he did not use his usual template of “we are professionals and we are learning from our mistakes.”

In that picture, Afridi is biting the ball the following conversation took place prior to the biting.

Rana: Yaar, baal nai swing hoindi
Afridi: Kya baat ker raye ho? Ball kaisay nai swing hoti?
Rana: Yaar, nai hori na
Afridi: Accha lao mujhay dou ball.
Rana: A low pharow
Afridi: Chomp, chomp, chomp, jao kero ab swing hogi.

420

It wasn’t just an engagement, actually Malik married that girl over the telephone (which is not a new thing btw) and it wasn’t that he didn’t see the girl. The Hyderabadi girl was in Dubai and he met her there a few times. Reportedly the girls parents are very rich and the girl wasn’t a beauty but, Malik got interested. And, Malik’s parents did not want him to marry a Hyderabadi girl, they wanted him to marry a Punjabi girl. Based on his parents forcing Malik started Talum Toli (dillydallying) with the girl and her parents who were asking for a formal wedding reception, he was anna kaaning. When it was so obvious that Malik will not proceed, the girl’s father asked for a divorce and Malik refused that, he kept saying it was only an engagement and not a marriage. That is only to prove a point that he wasn’t married or, he is not a second hand husband

As you recall that when he was playing a match in Hyderabad, the crowd was supporting him (it was a match with South Zone or Hyderabad XI whatever in which Malik scored 80 odd runs with four sixes in it. Then, after the match he responded to the media by saying: “Aaj Sasural may izzat reh gayee” i.e., he managed to play well. Then, he took Inzamam and a few players as well as Bob Woolmer to that girl’s house for a dinner. All this came in the newspapers and he was being addressed as “Hyderabad Ka Dammad” (Son-in-law of Hyderabad).

My question is why would anyone go to such an extent that you call Hyderabad your Sasural and you took your colleagues and your coach to your Sasural when you are simply engaged and that too on telephone? The girl’s father was very upset after the break-up by saying, ‘according to the religion my daughter needs a divorce.’ But, Malik denied that and when he was interviewed by Nadia Khan, she asked why he did not marry her? And, he said, “Ammi nai maanee” and then he cried like a baby with tears……. ask khansahab he sent me that video link and I was laughing my heads off.

Then he fall in love with that filmi aikastraa (extra) Siyali Bhagat and went to Mumbai to see her 4 times in 2 months. Ultimately she discarded him and rejected him.

MAAL-E-MUFT, DIL-E-BAY RAHEM …JEENA ISSI KA NAAM HAI

YAE JEENA BHEE KYA JEENA HAI …. BUTT KAY PEECHAY BHEE KOI DHUKKANA HAI?

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Cricket Board’s sitting duck (chairman) Ijaz Butt, has broken his predecessor’s record by spending Rs6.4 million on his foreign tours during the last 15 months.

According to a document made available to Dawn, the former PCB chief during his 17 months’ stay in the office had incurred an amount of Rs5.05 million while Rs2.3 million was spent on the foreign tours of former Chief Operations Officer (COO) Shafqat Naghmi.

Chairman PCB Ijaz Butt has spent Rs1.4 million on the purchase of international tickets besides spending Rs4.33 million on accommodation abroad from the kitty of the cricket board.

Mr Butt has visited Dubai, Abu Dhabi, India, Malaysia, Germany, South Africa, London, Singapore, Sri Lanka and Australia. His longest stay was in South Africa where he spent 17 days to attend an ICC board meeting. Even though the ICC paid for his ticket, the board had to pay Rs4,23,045 for his accommodation.

The PCB chairman attended the closing ceremony of the second edition of the Indian Premier League (IPL) on the IPL organisers’ invitation but his seven-day accommodation expenses in South Africa, costing Rs0.1 million, were taken care of by the cricket board.

The board financed the chairman’s costliest (Rs1.2 million) hotel stay in Dubai and South Africa where he had attended the World Cup and the annual meeting of the ICC.

Legislators were also informed that the PCB has spent Rs4.7 million and Rs3 million, respectively, on the international tours of Zakir Khan (director international cricket operations) and Subhan Ahmed (general manager international cricket).

The board has also spent Rs0.5 million on Zakir Khan’s accommodation during his 19-day UAE stay in connection with the Pakistan and New Zealand series in Dubai.

Zakir had traveled to India, Dubai, UK, Sri Lanka, Scotland, Abu Dhabi and Malaysia while Subhan had traveled to India, UK, UAE, Sri Lanka and Malaysia.

The PCB has also spent Rs1.4 million on the foreign visits of former COO Wasim Bari.

Oh yes, besides saying AWESOME five times in his supeech, Malak also said, “I am supeechless today” When was he able to Sapeek? I hardly remember a single incident when he is able to speak one sentence correctly. Even in Urdu when he was at Nadia Khan show he was muttering words under his teeth and kussmussao-ing and giggling like a girl. And, he even cried like a sissy.

With a big Adam’s Apple in his throat which keeps floating like a frog in a jar and, with his snake eyes he keeps moving his neck like a girgit (lizard) he hardly ever articulates his words

Munir

I have already quoted that awesome diarrhea that Malik is suffering from yesterday after hearing his ‘awesome supeech.’

You better watch that video clip before they pull it down, you know how good some people are in distorting the facts?

that is a proof that needs to be kept on record, if someone can copy it on their hard drive or a DVD or USB whatever must do that to preserve it.

Munir, but that was anybody’s game, you cannot expect from a 19 year old to win the match especially when he is a bowler still he scored 49 of 47 and Dale Steyn too hammered 3 sixes to give an exciting finish to this match. At this level it doesn’t matter who wins.

Btw, there is an aikastura “C” in your Chokers

khansahab

Hafeez is the reason why Pakistan lost the first T20 WC final. He dropped Rohit Sharma on the boundary line which resulted in a six. Otherwise, India were almost ALL out under 130, they went to score 158, Rohit and Irfan Pathan added those valuable 30 odd runs in the last 2 overs. I don’t approve Hafeez’s inclusion in the team. Rana is also a KHUDDA fielder he always drops important catches and fields badly when he is supposed to give only a single, he gives a boundary and starts looking at the ground or the lights / sun to blame. Whenever he was needed, he failed. Hence I don’t like a player who cannot deliver when you need him most. Players like, Miandad, Inzamam, Abdul Razzaq are dependable, even Kamran Akmal has done that a few times, but Hafeez, Rana, Malik, Imran Farhat, Salman Butt etc.? No way Jose.

420

U r like one of my cousins, he is a big fan of NY Rangers and supports them like anything and he is so emotional and so paranoid that he never watch NY Rangers playing live. He tapes the match and when someone tells him NY Rangers have won, then he watches it, otherwise he deletes it. Paranoid is not the right word, the right word is not coming to my mind right now, but you know what I mean? ,

This video is worth watching. Not just because I am Canadian but, the ambiance, the setting, the perfect location for Canada’s Maelle Ricker (31) who got this gold medal in Snowboarding cross Olympics last week, beating her opponents (including world champion (19 years old) by miles.

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/video/index.html?assetid=91ebec6c-71fe-4a22-b4ec-2d8edeedce07

Maelle was almost disqualified in the first round and had to wait for the second round which was almost abandoned due to bad weather but, then the weather suddenly improved and she got a chance for the second round and qualified for the quarterfinals which she did well and so also in the semifinals, but watch this video of the finals where she was flying and flying and flying and was miles ahead of all of them. And, if you read her story you will be even more amazed to know that she had injuries, fractures, broken bones and A LOT OF DETERMINATION that earned her the gold medal.

Munir

Tendulkar imo, should have declared it as a four. Like a batsman always knows when he nicks the ball into the keeper’s glove or in the slips the fielder also knows if he has touched the rope. And, the benefit of doubt always goes to the batsman. In that case it is a tie.

As regards test, I agree that was SA who choked despite Amla’s heroics, they came so close to draw the match with rain gods on their side, still they choked. And, I think in this ODI, they should have played Alma since he is in such a great form. What was the need to add him in the squad after Smith’s injury and not play him? Especially since he is the batsman in form, the top test scorer on both sides, a century and double century maker, a not out player whose average is so high, his confidence is sky high and you not play him? He could have easily played in place of Petersen. As regards your ‘chockers‘ I was only pulling your leg, we all make spelling mistakes so don’t worry (be happy) but, as unlce sargam says, don’t worry we will go to murree, and sit on the grass haree, haree and eat chicken curry. Kullo Jo Kalna hai. ! *I dunno if you remember this?*

Umer Admani

Imo, Sarfaraz Ahmad is not the right type of wicketkeeper for T20, he has never scored any runs besides his keeping is ordinary. Therefore, till such time a new dashing wicketkeeper is found it is better to play with Kamran Akmal. I am not sure if that is the reason why khansahab did not include Sarfaraz?

I dunno if you guys have noticed or not, Umar Akmal is now playing differently, there is no aggression in his batting he has become more defensive and in doing so he is getting out in 20′s and 30′s. He should be asked by his captain to play his natural aggressive game. But, in Pak team selection there is so much politics that a player has to think about his own place in the team rather than worrying about winning the game.

newguy

“A mind can only see what it is prepared to see.” I am sure you understand what it means? Since you have decided in your mind and taken ODI very casually because, in your opinion the last 2 tests were so good then, there is nothing one can do about it. But, I do understand your point. khansahab thinks that T20 is a joke. That’s what he thinks and he is adamant about it. But, for me it is fun, it is entertainment and those who were not taking it seriously are now taking it seriously e.g. Australia.

The second test went to the extent of one wicket and last two overs remaining is because of the fact that almost a whole day was lost due to bad light and rain. If there was no bad light and no rain the match would have ended on the 4th day and it was just a one sided affair like the first test. The thing is I have lost patience and find it very difficult to follow a test match for all 5 days especially when it is being aired at such an odd time for me that I spend watching it all night for 5 nights! Even when Pakistan is playing or, India and Pakistan are playing it is very difficult to stay up all night for 5 nights. I don’t mind doing that for ODI’s but, not for every country. Au contraire, I would love to see T20 (not IPL) and can stay up for both innings.

KIRKIT Aaj Di Taza Khabar aye hai

Uppnay Malak Saab Farmanday ain……

Afridi is best option for captaincy:

Tuesday, February 23, 2010

LAHORE: All-rounder Shoaib Malik, who captained Pakistan in the recent T20 International series against England in Dubai, has made it clear he does not harbour any ambitions of long term captaincy.

“I enjoyed leading the team in last three T20 matches in Shahid Afridi’s absence but it is better he gets back to captaining the side in this format of the game,” Malik said. Malik, who remained captain between 2007 and 2009 before being replaced by Younis Khan last year, said Afridi was a better choice to lead the team.

But he declined to comment when asked what would be his stance if he was pressed by the board to continue as captain in the T20 World Cup this year.

Matlab ki baat kerta hai Diwana…… These are the pearls of wisdom SapoKen by Malak saab and where he was supposed to Sapeek, he kept quiet….

Apnay Adam’s Apple ko Ooper Neechay ker kay baat Pee Gaya.

Munir

No, I don’t know all that baKaoz, I was out of the country then BUT, this haiga haiga I do remember and a few ads on PTV like Meeriums Ki Sariyaan and Philips ki patti fitting “toob-lite” and chamkeeli dhulayee kay liyeh Jet washing powder of Bho. Shareef.

newguy

Last night I was talking about T20 that those who were not taking it seriously b4 are taking it now and I quoted the name of Australia. A few hours later the second T20 between Aus and WI is a proof of what I was saying. See how Australia is producing players for T20. Warner is an addition to the already big hitting guys like, Watson, Shaun Marsh, David Hussey, Haddin, Christian etc., and they have bowlers like, Tait to dominate. Warner smashed 67 of 29 balls with 7 Sixes and 5 fours which means 62 runs came from just 12 balls.

Omer Admani;

When I wrote the word “stories,” it doesn’t mean kid stories and I wasn’t a 7 year old kid. By the time when my father passed away I had already done my university education and we had discussed many things about history at a very serious level, and it is not just hearsay back home those books are still there. My friend’s father-in-law who was a very famous person in Pakistan not only as a scholar, thinker, lawyer, philosopher and historian (PTV and ARY Dubai and Sharjah TV used to invite him for lectures on TV) but, also for his honesty and integrity.

Imran Khan quoted his name by saying: “the amount of income tax he (Mr. K. I.) alone paid is higher than the total amount of all the senators combined together in Pakistan.” He had the biggest collection of books in his personal library and, just a few years ago when he died, apart from a few nadir books, the rest of the library has been donated to LUMS Lahore according to his wishes. I don’t want to mention my friend’s name on the blog, but Munir knows him. So, people like him when they talked about history they didn’t tell stories – but facts.

For e.g., when we discuss the current affairs we take it casually and 30 years later when you will talk among your friends or your kids you may not be remembering exactly how Zardari manipulated and came into power? Or, how Nawaz Sharif spent his exiled life in KSA eating Nihari or how the Paindoo Chaudhary accepted the job of CJ when Musharraf superseded him over 20 other senior judges just like Bhutto chose Zia ul Haq over other senior generals but, people who take this subject seriously or it is their profession, or if they have written articles and books and they have kept records then, there may not be that much variation in telling the truth especially when the truth is being told by those person who have recorded it.

Secondly, you cannot say that hearsay is a wrong method of recording history. People who are serious they treasure their memories and preserve it in the biggest and strongest vault in the world i.e., their minds. Remember all the Sahabis used to memorize the Qura’n and its compilation took place much later after its revelation. And even today there are hundreds and thousands of people who are Huffaz (Hafiz Al-Qura’n) and it is for this reason there is no mistake, no change, not a single word or even a single alphabet has changed because, if one person makes a mistake in reciting, there are ten others at that moment who corrects him.

Whereas, if you look at the other Asmani Kitabain or the revealed books, unlike Qura’n they were not memorized and only kept in the form of books and people with time started changing it. Example, from Old Testament to New Testament there are a few versions like, Real Old Testament, Revised Old Testament, Revised International Testament, New Revised Testament.. ….. is there a break here? The Kings and the Church worked like a hand in glove and they kept changing the Bible according to their needs.

I think I have made my point clear and it is up to you to agree or disagree.

According to various info sources, Waqar Younus is likely to take over the job of a full time coach for the Pakistan team. Well, under the current circumstances Waqar, if not the best but probably he is the best option. A zillion times better than the corrupt suttay baaz Wasim Chakram.

What Omer Admani mentioned earlier about team selection or the playing XI selection with the captain having reduced power or no power owing to the silly voting system allocated or distributed between the Coach, manager, captain and vice captain. The captain has virtually no say except for being a rubber stamp. I think this is a very stupid system especially when you know there is no balance of voting and apart from the captain the remaining three votes are always on one side.

Australia has hammered WI in the second T20 match with a big margin (50 runs) and in the 12th over. West Indies team is lacking in self belief and there is no leader to inspire them, Chris Gayle is not the right leader he is a big hitter and sometimes he hits and some time he misses, there is no consistency in his game. Apart from him there are bits and pieces players mostly like Pakistan’s Salman Butt, Imran Farhat, Rana Nayee, Rao Ifti, etc. They are building a team for the WC and this time the chances are they might be able to steal away the cup. Especially if other teams play like the way they are playing now.

From the PK team Umar Gul who was the most consistent T20 bowler has become the most inconsistent bowler and have been giving away too many runs without a wicket. The opening conundrum continues and there is no number 3 player, so suddenly there is a collapse and the team gets defensive and can hardly score 150 runs. In order to pose a challenge (batting first) they have to score a minimum of 180, even that is not enough but, something to defend if they bowl and field well.

In my team for the T20 WC ahead, I will play the following team in this particular batting order:

1. Kamran Akmal
2. Shahid Afridi
3. Umar Akmal
4. Fawad Alam
5. Abdul Razzaq
6. Hammad Azam
7. Shoaib Malik
8. Umar Gul
9. Mohammad Aamer
10. Mohammad Asif
11. Saeed Ajmal

Reserves, Imran Nazir, Yasir Arafat, Sarfaraz Ahmad as a back up wicketkeeper.

The big hitters needed to be played at the top to keep a good run rate and in case of a collapse there are still a few players like Fawad Alam, Abdul Razzaq and Hammad Azam to consolidate and accelerate. I am keeping Malik in the side because there is no other player who can fill in for him. Besides, it will be a wishful thinking from anyone to demand Malik’s ouster from this WC because, he is currently tipped to lead the team even if Afridi is playing. Although he himself has suggested to the media that Afridi should be the right choice, but denied the question what if the PCB insists him to lead? IMO, he will not say NO, he will lead and that will be a disaster.

LOL @ you youngster beauty! ahahaha

I didn’t see this match on TV so thanks for posting the link and Umar Akmal was really very impressive, he took Mendis and Malinga to the cleaners, straight hitting for six and fours with lotsa lotsa power. Btw, what was the result of this match?

khansahab

Is this the squad for T20 WC? Where did you get this news from? It is still not in the DAWN or The News or, cricinfo. Was it on Geo TV or ARY?

LOL @ Temper Worry Chief Selector Mohammad Ilyass, selecting his son-in-law !

When is this nepotism going to end? I don’t see the name of FAWAD ALAM in the list of 30 probables, why?

Are they going to take any disciplinary action against Shoaib Malik?

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=225841

The last paragraph from this news says…….

A source said that the two hearings have confirmed that there were some disciplinary issues in the team and a communication breakdown had occurred between the management and some senior players.

“Some of those who appeared in the hearings did give credence to the allegations made by Yousuf that Shoaib Malik proved to be a difficult character to handle in Australia,” the source disclosed.

420

I don’t mean to take sides with Omer Admani or oppose your view, but it is a fact that there were and there are separatist movements in India, like we do have here in Canada. Quebec wants to separate from Canada more for language than any other reason. In India, Malayalees have more affinity towards their provincial brotherhood and language bonds. Although the majority are Muslims in Kerala but, when it comes to dealing with their own kind they choose language over religion. In Dubai any Malayalee would like to share his room with another Malayalee be it Hindu, Christian or Muslim rather than any North Indian or a Pakistani.

As regards separatist movements we all know that in India there are several such movements, right from Kashmir to the bottom Tamil Nadu. In the east there is Assam and Nagaland and in Tamil Nadu there are rebel organizations: Tamil National Retrieval Troops, Tamil Nadu Liberation Army

In Telangana, there are political parties namely: Telangana Rashtra Samithi, seeking to separate Telangana from Andhra Pradesh state. Various other minor groups such as Jai Telangana Party, Telangana Communist Party, Telangana Janata Party, Telangana Praja Samithi, Telangana Rashtra Party, Telangana Rashtra Sadhana Front, Telangana Rashtra Samithi and Telangana Sadhana Samithi.

Off and on they keep raising their heads and keep reminding the center that they are there. Like our Quebec separatist movement has faded in the last few years because of the failure of two earlier referendums of 1980 and 1995 and the only reason is “language.”

TENDULKAR has made history who can distort this?

Unlike other players who go berserk after making a 100, he played a normal cricket innings at a good run rate after his first hundred, no slog, no big hitting and he achieved the first target of 195 and surpassed it to an unassailable 200 not out.

South Africa lost the match even before the played a single ball of their innings. Their whole strategy changed after Gibbs was out and Smith not in the team, they sent Van der Merwe to play big shots and that was a mistake because they were scoring at a decent pace especially Amla. I am watching the match live and right now they are 6 down for 103 its only a matter of time the match will be over and India winning with a BIG, BIG margin.

What I didn’t like is the crowd behaviour. The Indians scored 400 plus and when the SA started their innings, on every boundary there was a total silence as if nothing happened and as soon as a wicket was down the stadium erupted with thunder. The crowd should have cheered the South Africans too. This is not fair, everyone in the world knows that SA are chokers – except for the one 443 chase against Australia – they have always choked and lost. And, not to cheer them on hitting boundaries and the lonely six is bad hospitality. Patriotism apni jaga, but sportsmanship is another and the spectators needs to learn this especially when the 2011 WC shall be held in India.

newguy

India will remain a strong nation as long as Pakistan exists and IF there is no Pakistan, India too shall be a divided country with may be one dozen independent states or countries. And, any nation can remain one nation as long as there is no foreign intervention. Do you think IF the big forces wants to divide India they will still defend and stay united? I don’t think so especially when there is no threat from Pakistan or there is no Pakistan.

As regards change, did anyone ever think even in the early 80′s that the USSR will not remain a superpower like the USA? Now, the USSR is a different Russia. The Prestorika and the fall of Berlin Wall came almost at the same time in the year 1989 and who was behind that? Whatever happened economically, they were almost hollow from inside after a decade long war in Afghanistan which they were fighting against the US backed Mujahideen.

Revolutions come once in a life time and they are from within and changes takes place like it happened in Iran from Shah to Khomeini. Like, in Afghanistan from Zahir Shah to Gulbadin Hikmatyar. Iraq was ruled by a dictator Saddam and he would have remained in power till his natural death like Gaddafi is in Libya. But, Iraq is finished and it will not be the same one country, because of the presence of the foreign forces, they will divide that country, like they divided Germany and they divided Bosnia (Yugoslavia).

newguy

The commentators must say this, the media must write about this and that is how people will change. Anyways, I was appalled at the crowd behaviour. Btw, Pakistan is also in the north but, the crowd in Karachi, Lahore, Multan and Peshawar they don’t behave like the north Indian crowd, why?

PS

Tendulkar when he played for the first time in Peshawar and hit Abdul Qadir for a couple of sixes and scored a brisk 50 odd runs he was cheered by the crowd. They love aggressive batting and appreciate sixes and fours.

Omer Admani

I have read almost all the articles by Arundhati Roy and her books. I don’t know if you remember when I quoted excerpts from her article our blogger friend Varun responded by saying, she is like your Zaid Hamid who spills hate against India. I said, well if you consider her being a frustrated Indian, then what about others?

Its not just Arundhati Roy but, there are a few other independent female journalists who have written some great articles e.g., Martha Nussbaum “Body of the Nation.” here it is:
http://bostonreview.net/BR29.3/nussbaum.html

And Karen Armstrong she too has written some articles, one of the is Islam and the West, read it and see what she had said?:

http://www.islamfortoday.com/karenarmstrong02.htm

Omer, the point to note here is nobody echos their voice to support these women when they expose them. The Indian media mafia is so strong that they either keep quiet and ignore or write against them and the Pakistanis also don’t bother to echo their voice. Here is a classic example on this blog in this very thread………… look at the caption of this thread. “INDIAN BOWLER MANOJ PRABHAKAR, THE LEADER OF CHEWING THE BALL.” How many people have commented on it? NONE. Not a single comment has been written by anyone. Neither our Indian blogger friends have written anything nor the Pakistanis have. And this happened 20 years ago. When did we find out about it? Only when Shahid Afridi repeated this offense and it became headlines. This is the strength of the mafia, the one sided journalism. Even today they are writing jokes about Afridi eating the ball like an apple or whatever!

khansahab

If the track was flat, it was for both the teams. The important thing is, Tendlukar was able to exploit it and so did, Dhoni and Pathan along with him. But, initially it was Dinesh Karthik who played superbly along with Tendulkar in a partnership of 194 runs that laid the foundation for a big score. Pathan came in and added a quickfire, another partnership of 81 in good time. Then Dhoni came and blasted it with Tendulkar. If a couple of SA batsmen had played like Tendulkar and Dinesh Karthik or supported AB Devillers they would have scored more than 248 added respectability to their total. Just like the Sri Lankans did last year when India posted 413 they came close and lost the match by 3 runs. SA did only once against Australia and that’s still a record to win a match chasing 443 runs.

Tendulkar kept his cool and played cricketing shots, at one stage I thought Dhoni will not let him break that record or surpass 200 because he was going berserk but, this time Tendulkar did that in style, unlike the previous time when he remained not out on 186. And his appetite is not over yet, after winning the POM award he said, “I’d like to bat another full 50 overs.” Dhoni and Sir Viv Richards also remained not out in the 180′s. That Zimbabwean player could have scored 200 whereas he got stuck on 194, I dunno what went into his mind that he slowed down and lost that golden opportunity?

newguy

You have said, what most Indians say i.e., “My overall impression is that there has been ethnic cleansing in Kashmir for many years because of which the pundits in Kashnir who are Hindus were driven out and / or slayed. That has changed the demographics considerably.” Actually, this is what the Indian media has planted in the minds of an average Indian to believe.

The Pundits doesn’t mean the religion pundit, the pundit in Hindi is a teacher. The Pundits or the teachers in Kashmir were and are the upper caste Brahmins, when they saw the uprising in Kashmir, they decided to move out of Kashmir and went down into UP, MP and other states of India and because they are educated and qualified they had no problem in getting jobs elsewhere and on top of that, they played the emotional card by saying, “We are homeless Kashmiris, driven out of Kashmir.” That is a big massive propaganda and Indian politicians used them to take advantage.

Secondly, your point or your bottom line that you expressed with doubt by saying: “I don’t know if she and her family represent the sentiment of average Kashmiri if there is one” is once again the exact words the media propagates by singling her out as a crazy person. Arundhati Roy is not a crazy person. Supriya Roy Chowdhury is not a crazy person, I am sure you are not a crazy person too, therefore, use your judgment, don’t let it get influenced or get tainted by what the media propagates.

Our blogger Varun who is hibernating these days had mentioned on this blog a year ago about how they Indian army created camps called Papa 1 and Papa 2 where more than 70 Muslim Kashmiri males were slain or killed.

On behalf of Mohammad Munir, I am copy pasting this info below, which represents THE TRUE DEMOCRACY IN THE DEMOCRATIC PAKISTAN AND HOW THE ELECTED MNA’s USE THE GOVT. MONEY:

Salary & Govt. Concessions for a Member of NATIONAL ASSEMBLY (MNA)

Ø Monthly Salary : Rs. 120,000 to 200,000
Ø Expense for Constitution per month : Rs.100,000

Ø Office expenditure per month : Rs.140,000
Ø Traveling concession (Rs. 8 per km) : Rs.48,000 (For a visit to ISLAMABAD & return): 6000 km
Ø Daily BETA during Assembly meets : Rs.500
Ø Charge for 1st class (A/C) in train : Free (For any number of times all over PAKISTAN )
Ø Charge for Business Class in flights: Free for 40 trips / year (With wife or P.A.)
Ø Rent for Govt.. hostel any where: Free
Ø Electricity costs at home : Free up to 50,000 units
Ø Local phone call charge : Free up to 1,70,000 calls
Ø TOTAL expense for a MNA per year : Rs. 32,000,000
Ø TOTAL expense for 5 years : Rs. 1,60,000,000
Ø For 534 MNA, the expense for 5 years :
Rs. 85 , 440,000,000 (more than 800 Korores)

And they are elected by THE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN, through a democratic process of this world, not intruded into the assembly on their own or by any qualification.

This is how all our tax money is been swallowed and price hike on our regular commodities…
Think of the great democracy we have……………
PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO ALL CITIZENS OF PAKISTAN ….WHO ARE GIVING VOTES TO THESE POLITICIANS……?

Munir did not say this but, I guess he is saying bring back Parvez Musharraf

420

Yeah the same way one man’s freedom fight is another man’s terrorism. For the Israelis the Palestinians are terrorists and vice versa. For the Americans the Talibans and Al-Qaida are terrorists and vice versa. But, there is a difference between Arundhati and Taslima or Rushdie. Arundhati is not provoking or challenging Hinduism or Islam whereas, the other two are creating blasphemies and provoking Islam. Karen Armstrong only tried to show to the world that there is unnecessary Islamic phobia against the Muslims by the West. Also, the wearing of Hijab by Muslim women has been made a big issue whereas, not so long ago most orthodox Christian women used to wear head scarfs. The orthodox Jewish women had to shave her hair as soon as she gets married as per their religious practice but, they wear wigs when they go out. Which one might call it a very strange or ridiculous phenomenon because, hair is one of the most appealing thing that a woman has that makes her look more beautiful and that she wants to and have to cover it only for her Mehrams. Wearing a wig negates the whole idea. But, even the most orthodox Jewish people have accepted this notion as an alternative to wearing Hijab.

Anyways, MF Hussain is a crazy old man simply wants attention to be recognized as a unique artist who walks bear feet and is madly in love with MADhouri Dixit. If you want to give an example, think of a person!

Mr. M. Y. Kasim

The name Al-Hind or its inhabitants Al-Hindi is also from the French that the English took and changed it. In French they call it “Inde” because they don’t pronounce the alphabet “H” it is from the French the British took it as INDIA a cross between the Arabic and French Pronunciation. Al Hindi & Le Inde = India. Also in Arabic when they mean to say …. The Indian they say Al Hindiya.

The British borrowed many words from Arabic and French. For e.g.

The word Naval ADMIRAL

The word Admiral is short for Amir Al Bahr in Arabic or, the chief of Navy. (Bahr = Sea)

The French find it difficult to say Amir Al Bahr and they used to say only Amir Al. And, later Amiral

The British when they started using this word thought that the French forgot to add the alphabet “D” so they added D, hence it is aDmiral or Admiral.

When the Arabs went to India they brought back a few fruits from there like, Mangoes, Guava, Bananas and Tamarind.

Apart from Tamarind the rest were perishable and had to be thrown away. When people in Arabia asked them what is this? They replied, “Tamar min Hind” or Fruits from India

The Indian name IMLEE was difficult for the Arabs to remember hence they called it simply as Tamar Hind.

The French still call it Tamar-Inde or Tamarinde and the British removed the excessive use of vowels and the last E was removed and in English language it is Tamarind.

There are many words and the origin of the word Camera came from the arabic word (AL QAMRA) which means: the dark room with a small window. This room was invented and used by the Muslim Arab scientist Bin Al-Haitham as he gave the first clear description and correct analysis of the (camera ( Al qamara or Al Camara). (Dark room) which is the basis of our modern Camera.

Omer Admani

U r like a tube light, it took you so long to get it? My friends from school time call me JAK because of my initials. Anyways, when you talk about 2000-3000 years remember that the colour also changes because of the mixed marriages and not because of the pigmentation from sunlight only.

But, the British Raj has dented the psyche of all those dark complexion people in the sub-continent that they have some kinda complex about being dark and everyone wants to be fair. They want to marry a fair woman. They want to buy creams that can help them in making fair. “Fair and Lovey Cream” Some weird snow creams like Tibet Snow. The complexion issue is also imbued in the psyche because of the upper caste Brahmins who are Aryan descends and have ruled the dark skinned Dravidian race for ages.

Mr. M. Y. Kasim

I think it is not Akbar whose forces went up to Mysore, but it was Aurangzeb who conquered the Golconda Fort in Deccan which is in the outskirts of the new city of Deccan, The Hyderabad Deccan which is named after the son in law of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad, Ali Ibn Abi Talib whose other name was Hyder. Although if you go to Mini God Wiki you will find different versions about how the name was baptized from Bhagyanagar to Hyderabad. Suggesting that the ruler of Golconda Muhammad Quli Qutab Shah (also the first known Urdu poet with his literary work collection – Diwan-e- Quli Qutub Shah) fall in love with a Banjara girl called Bhagyawati and named the new city after her.

There are tales about two dancers, Bhagyawati and Taramati they were more like circus performers and used to dance on a rope tied from one end of the fort minaret to the other and that was a kinda Mela or festival and the myth has been exaggerated that the Shah was in love and named the city after her.

Mr. M. Y. Kasim

Talking about he myth of love stories like the one I have quoted above about, Quli Qutub Shah was in love with Bahagyawati, reminds me of the bigger myth about Akbar and Jodha Bai. If you read Akbar Nama by Abul Fazal you will notice that this name Jodha Bai or Jodha Akbar does not exist at all, it is just a creation by some Hindu Historians who wanted to show Akbar as a very liberal minded Moghul Emperor as opposed to the conservative orthodox Aurangzeb.

There are so many sources that say that Akbar did not have just one Jodha Bai in his chamber. He had a number of ‘Jodha Bais’ by the hundreds. In fact according to the biography by Vincent Smith, Akbar enjoyed ‘a harem consisting of 5000 women, mostly Hindus’. (May be an exaggerated figure but it could probably be in hundreds, also not just Hindus but, Turkish and Armenians too). Given this many concubines and ‘Bais’ in his harem; countless ‘harem-zades’ or what people say HaramZada or a Bastard must have been born out of his ‘love stories’ and ‘romances’ with those all females on various occasions.

Bollywood has been doing this for a long time purely for the entertainment of the masses i.e., creating love stories. The implication that Shahzada Salim or, Jahangir was born out of this romance is another myth or unverifiable allegation propagated in modern fantasy primarily, such as the earlier costume drama Mughal-e-Azam. In which the story of Anarkali has been distorted and presented to the masses out of proportion.

Real Akbar loved this ‘Jodha Bai’ so much that far from building any Taj Mahal, any school, any building whatsoever for her, he did not even mention the woman any where in any of his works or Akbarnama by Abul Fazal. Nor does Mr. Salim in his autobiography hint anywhere that his female parentage was not Muslim he did not even mention that she existed. Because most likely that was not the case. Most likely, the so called Jodha Bai’s off-springs were just wandering around the harems also like her.

There is another tale that there was an Armenian woman called Joda pronounced as Yoda and she was one of the concubines of Akbar and because she was different from others Akbar used to pay more attention to her beauty. And, because she was not a Muslim woman, she was flanked by other Indian concubines and was also called a “Bai“. Even today a Bai in India is generally referred to as an elderly woman who run brothels.

CONTRADICTIONS AND NEGATION

If you read the Mogul History of India written by Hindu Historians, on one side they say that Akbar was very brutal Muslim emperor and he killed and massacred 30,000 Indian Hindu Rajputs when they refused to embrace Islam. On the other side they say that he was such a liberal minded person that he accommodated Hindus in his court as Ministers and Advisers (Raja Birbal is one such person) then, they also say that Akbar was not orthodox Muslim he married Jodha Bai and let her practice her own religion. He was interested in various religions that he created an “Ibaadat-Khana” or a worship room in Fatehpur Sikri and even created a moderate religion called “Deen-e-Ilahi.” Because, he believed that Islam is very strict, rigid, conservative and orthodox.

So, which one of these allegations & compliments are true? Why is there such a disparity in their reporting? It means that facts have been distorted and that is exactly the reason they cannot equate the two together as, 2+2= 4 instead it is 2+2=5.

Munir

Your question was answered but, it seems you have not read it. His house in London was not far from Awas’s house and he is there. He travels a lot giving lectures, in the last quarter of 2009 he gave about 17 lectures in North America, follow him like he is a leader and you will know where he is.

But, now for sure you know how corrupt these MNA’s are? And why they spend crores of rupees to get elected? For them it is an investment.

And, do you mind if I post that Adolph Hitler link here? It is hilarious especially the line on Wasim Akram. Whoever subtitled that video had similar thoughts like mine when he mentioned about Wasim Akram !

Varun

Welcome back, jab hum nay tumko PROVOKA tabhee tumharee cheeq nikli, where are you now? Holland may ya abhe India may koi larki ki talaash hai? Since all your friends got married and you are the one left so come on here and spend some time on the blog like a good old boy!

PS

On Sohail Tanvir, I did not hear what he said on TV but khansahab told me that he did. You must have noticed that I have been telling since I saw his last TV interview when he got the purple hat for taking highest wickets in the IPL in which he sounded so arrogant and so snooty and like an uncouth Paidoo he said, “Meri worth ka say kam Ek Million ki hai.” Iss BC kay bucchay say koi poochay WORTH ka matlab batao tou yae apni baghlain jhankay ga. Then he played against Sri Lanka and gave away 43 runs in 3 overs and he did that again and in one ODI he was hammered for 70 plus runs hence he was dropped and I am glad that they dropped him. Too much of praising went into his head and that comment on youtube he spoke from his rear.

Iss saalay ki zehniyat aisi hai kay if they call him with an offer, he will run wagging his tail and will lick Modi’s ass.

newguy; 420 and Varun

Here is a copy paste from Pakistan’s leading English Daily DAWN. Hafsa Adil is a female sports writer for Dawn. She has expressed her true feelings about records. Please read what she has written about Tendulkar’s 200

Varun and I have discussed this record thing before and he asked me ‘weren’t you a bit scared that Saeed Anwar’s record was in danger?’ Hafsa admitted that she felt it was in danger. I am not going to sugar my words, I will speak the truth. I never consider any record in danger. I would really be happy to see if a great innings is played fairly without any chance and a new record is created. Cricket is for entertainment. I enjoy watching Sehwag, Chris Gayle, Kevin Pietersen and playing big shots as much as Shahid Afridi or Abdul Razzaq. It is also natural for one to support your team and your players. But, I don’t spare anyone here when they fail or consistently fail or do some mischief or play dirty politics politics.

She is right, I was mad at Dhoni when he was jeopardizing Tendulkar’s effort in surpassing the record for a 200. I think when Dhoni remained not out at 186 or 184 whatever, it was because of Youvraj Singh, who wasn’t being any considerate in allowing Dhoni to bat, rather he himself was hitting big just like Dhoni did now. Anyways, all is well that ends well, Tendulkar has achieved both milestones and we all congratulate him for this great achievement. And, Varun you never read that thread on Tendulkar that I wrote!

It’s hard being a man
Congrats, Sachin!
Posted by Hafsa on 02 25th, 2010

Congrats, Sachin!

When Charles Coventry was hovering in the 180s against Bangladesh, I voiced my fear that Saeed Anwar’s record seemed in danger of being broken. In response, a friend said, “Bah! Don’t get too attached to records, it’s a sign of mediocrity.” While it was some consolation that Coventry didn’t actually break the record – he equalled it – the gloss was still removed from that proud feeling that my countryman held the world record for the highest individual ODI score. That too, one of the finest left-handed batsmen of his time, and there’s no hiding the fact that his feat was made extra-special owing to the fact that he scored the runs against India.

Once again, as Sachin Tendulkar reached 150 against South Africa, my fellow sports fan at Dawn.com and I gave each other nervous, knowing looks. He said that whenever Tendulkar reaches 150 (he has done it on no less than three previous occasions!), he starts getting anxious.

We stopped working when Tendulkar got to 160 and started calling and texting friends to inform them that Saeed bhai’s record was under threat from the master-blaster. And as he reached 180, with almost eight overs to spare, we had resigned ourselves to the fact that Tendulkar was on his way to another record.

So when he did it, there was nothing left to do but stand up and applaud the monstrous effort. I mean, if there is anyone who deserves to hold the record, it’s Tendulkar. I’d rather have Tendulkar break Anwar’s record than any other batsman, especially if that batsman is an Indian. How would I have felt, for example, if Sourav Ganguly had done it? (Apologies to Indian fans, but that guy was really annoying). Or, for that matter, would my feelings have been as bittersweet if Coventry had actually broken the record?

The fact that Tendulkar smashed his way past Anwar’s grand total against a highly respected South African side – albeit on a cemented Gwalior pitch where the Protean bowlers averaged eight short-pitched deliveries per over – made the accomplishment even more commendable. I even found myself getting mad at M.S. Dhoni for taking most of the strike after Tendulkar had crossed 194, reducing his chances of making a double ton. Who makes 200 runs in an ODI, anyway?

Watching Tendulkar break Anwar’s record was surreal. It was also heartbreaking at times. But most of all, it was fantastic! Really, Sachin ala re bhaiya!

Hafsa Adil is a sports writer for Dawn.com.

The views expressed in the following reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of the Dawn Media Group.

The reason Gavaskar sponsors Tendulkar is whatever he (Gavaskar) could not achieve in his life, Tendulkar is achieving that. Initially when Tendulkar started playing cricket a lot of people started saying he is a new Gavaskar in the making and Gavaskar took note of him after he has created some records and thereafter he has been praising him in other words reliving a life in Tendulkar’s body.

That is so foolish to imagine because, there is a big difference between the two (both are from Mumbai, both are KAR in the end) Gavaskar’s shot selection is very different from Tendulkar. After Tendulkar has scored this 200 not out in 50 overs he expressed the desire of playing another full 50 overs. If one reckons Gavaskar, during one of the ODI World Cups when it was a 60 over innings, opened the innings, played all 60 overs and remained not out on 36 Howwwwwwzzzz That?

Omer Admani

I am not sure if that is the criteria for getting short or tall, thin or fat, even today in Mauritania, to make a girl big and plump they “gavage” — it is a borrowed French word from the practice of fattening of geese for foie gras — girls and it starts early. Obesity has long been the ideal of beauty, signaling a family’s wealth in a land repeatedly wracked by drought. A quarter of the 1.5 million women in Mauritania are obese, according to the World Health Organization. That’s lower than the 40 percent of American women who the WHO says are obese, but surprisingly high in a country that has not a single fast-food franchise and that is twice the size of Texas.

And, on top of that it is a poor country yet there are so many obese women. The girls at the age of 10 are forced by their mothers to drink 14 gallons of camel’s milk everyday besides eating other heavy food! This is not exaggeration, it is true.

Although Mauritania is the only culture known to force-feed girls, obesity is popular across much of the Arab world. Nomadic peoples struggling to survive the harsh desert came to prize fatness as a sign of health.

Fifty-two percent of women over 15 in Kuwait are obese, as are 46 percent in Egypt and approximately a third of women in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain, according to the WHO. That contrasts sharply with most sub-Saharan countries, including Mauritania’s neighbors, Senegal and Mali, where only 9 and 6 percent of women are obese.

Omer Admani

aNO. I didn’t get your point, could you be more specific

Besides, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and some women don’t care about money but they care about Moolaah or Mullah. If you are rich, famous, fat and ugly it doesn’t matter to them, they go for money. Do you see the relationship between ugliness and money?

Courtesy of Mohammad Munir, I am posting this video link here, it is hilarious especially Hitler’s comment about Wasim Akram, I enjoyed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmRihuD4cFk

When the West Indies team arrived in Australia after the Pakistan tour, Chris Gayle said, we will win 4-1 in the 5 ODI series. They did not win a single match. The irony is Chris Gayle was dismissed by Doug Bollinger six times in seven games in Australia (including the test matches that were played prior to Pakistan’s arrival in Australia). I don’t understand why Captains make such statements prior to matches? And, can’t they assess their own strength playing against one of the best sides in the world and that too in their own backyard?

Varun

Its not a matter of Prabhakar vs. Afridi. It is also not a matter of India vs. Pakistan. Its a matter of how good the media propaganda is when it comes to badmouthing against Pakistan. And, mind you that video was not invented or discovered by Pakistanis but, Indians. The guy who made the effort in taking clips from the match and in making a video and uploaded it on youtube is an Indian guy and he was in the end saying, “Afridi is right, they all do it.” Now, that the cat is out of the bag how come people take it so easy and say Prabhakar is a Ch2So4 or a Bh2Bm3. Btw, youtube is not the media, its an individual thing that people post/upload personal videos there, so please don’t say it is the media.

Afridi’s Maa Bahen uttering on that video against Gambhir is a dubbing. Like Batman and Spiderman in Punjabi. And, if you think he really does then Gambhir is way ahead of him and so is Ashish Nehra and Harbhajan Singh.

And LOL at your perception of Dravid’s rubbing a hard lozenges on the ball to tamper it and you think that in their long gentlemanly career if such a minor incident has happened it is OK and one must pardon and ignore it. He too was punished 50% of his match fee. And, Tendulkar like I have said, he is not a celebrity but an icon, a deity and a god so even if he had pulled the seam off the ball with his hand or a with a knife or a sword, it is fine. But, remember he too was fined 75% of his match fee and 2 match ban apparently for removing grass from the ball

We are naive, we are very naive people, we don’t understand these things so easily. I wonder where we were when Prabhakar bit the ball and Dravid rubbed hard lozenges to scrape the ball and when Tendulkar gently picked up the grass from the ball with his soft fingers? Shayed hum uss time ghaas khaanay gaye thayy! Chorro Yar, mitti pao. Lets talk about the T20 WC.

Btw, tonight is Australia NZ first T20 starting in about 5 hours and 18 minutes from now.

Omer Admani

On the rich and ugly I was referring to the Bollywood ChipKalees, ChampaKalees and Gul-e-Bakawlees or should I say CowRilla and Gorilla and those Catrina and Catwariya, they all hang around ugly buglies and you have seen them during the IPL. And, even in Pakistan all those Veena Sheena hanging around with Asaf. I am not sure if you have read Meera’s last interview in DAWN in which she self proclaimed her as SAX-SYM-BULL. She said, the way these Bollywood, Lollywood and Tollywood actresses and aikasstrass (extras) are treated by those ugly bugly producers and directors who tell them, yae uthaa, wo uthaa, yae dikha, wo dikhaa …. you understand what it means? c’est ca.

LOL newguy

I am not upset, I am only highlighting how the media focus anything that’s wrong or bad done by Pakistan or Pakistanis and publicize it so widely and make them look the crooked, meanest, cheaters not to mention fundoz, terrorists etc. etc. And how conveniently they ignore others. And, India is always in the goody goody list, their players, leaders and even their extremists are portrayed as Angels. Just because Prabhakar did that 20 years ago and went unpunished doesn’t mean we cannot discuss it? If that is the case we should not discuss history or even yesterday’s events because past is past lets only talk about future! RightO?

Ps.

If you look at Prabhakar’s profile they have mentioned about his match fixing “scandal” as if it was not real but just a scandal? And he was banned, why would anyone ban if it is just a scandal? Secondly, I remember his pathetic bowling against SL in the 1995-96 WC when he was thrashed for 33 in 2 overs, he started bowling “off-spin” for the next 2 overs and was removed he gave away 47 in 4 overs, which is not so uncommon today in T20 because Shoaib Actor and Ch2So4 Tanvir were also hammered for 43 in 3 overs. But, in those days in ODI’s giving away 47 in 4 overs was “kirmi-null”

Omer Admani

Meera was actually referring to the ugliness of those producers and directors who treat these women as prostitutes and even worst than that by asking them to show their privates during the filmi shooting. Never mind.

As regards Pakistan hockey or even any country’s field hockey I don’t follow anymore. Yes, there was a time when Pakistan team were real world champions and Olympic Champions when Islahuddin, Rashid Junior, Samiullah, Shahnaz Shaikh, MunawaruzZaman etc., were playing. Germany and Holland used to give tough times, India started losing since the 1960′s and never regained. Pakistan followed the suit a decade after.

I was watching women hockey final between Canada and the USA and our girls won the Gold medal at the Vancouver Winter Olympics. Johannie Rochette won a bronze medal in figure skating she is a Quebecoise from Berthierville not far from here. The World and Olympic Champion of figure skating is 19 year old Kim Yuna of Korea, she created a world record by winning the highest points ever. She was superb or in Malik’s language Awesome!

Omer Admani

Your unconditional love for Rana Nayee is as good as Antony and Cleopatra or, is it like Queen Victoria and Prince Albert. She mourned her husband’s death for 40 years ….. Ooops I don’t mean to make you two a couple! But, you certainly do hate him by making him a 300 lbs Pehalwan. You know there was Inzamamul Hulk and then there was a Chaudhry Ka Saand, Shoaib Akhtar all others are slim fit when you compare them with these two.

The change I see in Rana is not just his hair but his complexion has become more fair. He definitely must be using that cream, whatchamacallit? Fair & Lovely or may be Tibet Snow.

Bollywood = Bombay ……… now it should be Mummywood because it is Mumbai

Lollywood = Lahore and La’hore; La’hore aye!

Tollywood = Telugu Desam Film Industry call themselves Tollywood
Mollywood = Malayalam Film Industry ……. should have been MullooWood

I like to see Rajni Kant movies more than Amitabhbachan movies.

LOL Omer

Canadian larkioyn nay tumharay USA ko Hara diya! what a shame.

Btw, I must say that the Canadian hockey girls were much better looking than the US hockey girls. Even in figure skating, Johannie Rochette the bronze medalist is far more better looking than the American Rachael Flatt, she looked like a flat tire at number 6 position.

Omer Admani

Rana has one more thing………..he has a parchee (sifarish) and I wonder why “Taony Graig.” praises him so much?

Yeah, Hindustan Unilever makes this cream and I heard that they make billions of rupees and employ thousands of people in manufacturing this cream for the poor people who want to become fair! What a scam? LOL

Talking about Hindustan Unilever or the old time Lever Brothers who came to India to market their goods, one of the ads that was popular on TV and Radio was that of a red soap called “Life Buoy” and the song was:

Life Bai say nahana Rozana.…….. something something

Aur haan there was another LUX soap for females, another scam to make women fair. The moment you wash your face with soap you are fair! Wah, Lux kya scene hai.

In India there was a DALDA generation and in Pakistan it was Tullo…. amma tullo may pakao humko sehatmand banao…….. imagine hydrogenated soya bean oil aur sehatmand banao?

Then there is this PEPSI generation, always hyper on pepsi.

Omer Admani

If you like dense population then go to Dhakka Bangladesh or Kolkata, India or any big city of India. We all know that Canadian population is only 33 million as opposed to the US population of 304 million which is ten times more.

But, you are certainly very wrong about night life. You have no idea about Montreal. Here, even during this harsh winter weather Friday night and Saturday night all the downtown restaurants, clubs and bars are open till 3:00 a.m. Try coming here in summer and you will find this city as a city of festivals. Book a week-end on Canada Day July 1st to the US 4th July. For 12 nights every year we have Montreal’s International Jazz Festival followed by a month long Comedy Festival, Intl. Film Festival, Caribbean Festival etc., and during Jazz Fest no one sleeps during the night.

There are more than 4000 restaurants, clubs and bars in downtown Montreal and more than 7000 on the island of Montreal. On top of that the best thing is it is THE SAFEST CITY IN NORTH AMERICA. You don’t have to watch your back all the time like you do in the big cities of the USA. The food is amazing here, now we have dozens and dozens of desi restaurants also. But, French, Italian, Chinese, Japanese, Mexican restaurants are dominating. Every week-end the whole of Vermont, Boston and New Yorkers come to Montreal and spend the week-end. These days the Americans a little PHUKKAR due to recession and also the CAD is more expensive so there are fewer Americans and more Europeans. Right now most tourists are in Vancouver because of the winter Olympics. And, because of the multiculturalism and mixed marriages, there is more HUSN here, seeing is believing.

Salman Khan

I think we ALL have discussed that interview on this blog a few months ago. Thanks. Hope you’ll do well in your exams wish you all the best. Keep writing.

Omer Admani

Pls don’t take this discussion seriously, we all know the strengths of the USA and its dwindling economy, population, area, size, history and its achievements etc. etc. I was only talking about women hockey and figure skating during this current winter Olympics. Besides, it is a fact that there are four “most wanted to visit cities” in North America and they are San Francisco, Seattle, Vancouver and Montreal. You can compare Boston with Glasgow, the city looks so old and full of universities. Montreal is not like New York, LA, Miami or Chicago, it is different its more like a mini Paris in North America, its a very vibrant and picturesque city. Imo, Vancouver is more picturesque and weather wise milder than Montreal but, Montreal is very, very safe and it has its own beauty and charm. Even in winter the Bostonian visit Montreal to enjoy nightlife and not for skiing. For skiing they go to Mont Tremblent which is one of the best ski resorts in this area.

Children over exposed to sexual imagery because of the Internet – BBC

BBC has recently launched a campaign against the ever increasing child pornography and sexual imagery:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8537734.stm

“Frank Furedi, professor of sociology at Kent University, said society as a whole and adults were to blame. He said: “The whole of society is hypersexualised – sex becomes the common currency through which adults make their way in the world and continually send a signal to children that sex is all that matters.” There needs to be some control at home and a limit to this ever increasing casual and open discussions about sex and, sex is the only thing in the world.

There is one more AD ON TV these days that I detest it is about DOLLARS FOR GOLD. The man yelling at a high pitch voice asking people to bring their gold jewelery and gold watches and all that is lying in their closets and drawers and get instant cash and bloody blah………

These Thugs are taking at least 2-3 minutes of prime time on TV ads whereas most ads are only 20 seconds long. They are not only fooling the masses, but also encouraging homeless, jobless, druggies and junkies to steal gold and get cash for drugs. Shouldn’t they be advertising DRUGS FOR GOLD? According to reports crime rate in the UK and North America has gone up since these ads have started to appear on TV with such monstrosity and boldness. All the TV corporations must BAN these ads with immediate effect.

khansahab

I dunno from where you got that list of 30 probables for the T20 WC in which Fawad Alam’s name was missing. Here is the list which excludes Shoaib Actor and Sohail Tanvir. Very rightly so.

Imran Nazir, Imran Farhat, Khalid Latif, Mohammad Hafeez, Salman Butt, Shahzaib Hassan, Shoaib Malik, Umar Akmal, Naveed Yasin, Hasan Raza, Kamran Younis, Misbah-ul-Haq, Babar Azam, Fawad Alam, Abdul Razzaq, Shahid Afridi, Yasir Arafat, Hammad Azam, Rana Naved-ul-Hasan, Umar Gul, Mohammad Aamer, Mohammad Asif, Wahab Riaz, Mohammad Sami, Saeed Ajmal, Raza Hasan, Abdul Rehman, Kamran Akmal, Sarfraz Ahmed, Zulqarnain Haider

I don’t know all of them but, those whose names I have highlighted should not be in the squad in any form of the game.

LOL Omer Admani;

Actually I am ROTFLOLING at your geography!

When you cross Niagara Falls from the US border, you enter Ontario and the first city is Ste-Catherine I guess you are talking about it. However, when you drive on QEW or Queen Elizabeth Way from there Toronto is about 80 miles or 1 hour 30 minutes drive and Toronto is huge a population of over 8 million people.

From Toronto to Montreal the distance by car is about 500 plus kilometers or 300 plus miles and it takes about 5 to 5 1/2 hours of driving time.

From Burlington VT to Montreal QC it is about 97 miles or 155 km. and estimated driving time is about 2 hours.

A lot of people from Vermont come to Montreal just for spending the day because Vermont population is only 40,000 whereas Montreal has a population of 4 million plus. TEN TIMES bigger.

Also, a lot of students from Albany and Boston come to Montreal instead of going to NYC because it is cheaper in terms of hotels, restaurants and more safe.

From Toronto Ontario to Vancouver BC it is about 2700 miles or 4320 km and it takes more than 40 hours of non stop driving.

So, where on earth did you find Vancouver just above Burlington Vermont? Man, it takes 3 and a half days by VIA Rail to go to Vancouver from Montreal almost 5000 k.m.

amir

yes, I have read that news on cricinfo in which no names have been mentioned reportedly from unconfirmed sources it is Kamran Akmal but, the other name is not mentioned. It could only be a rumour, I doubt it is about money. Akmal’s form was pathetic and that is the reason he dropped catches and missed stumping chances.

Omer Admani LOL again, because you still appear to be confused. Take a look at this picture of downtown Montreal, if you think its small city the size of Syracuse. I have been to Syracuse and I know what it looks like.

http://www.canada-photos.com/data/media/8/sc_1179.jpg

Not only Americans but, most Europeans when they come to downtown Montreal and see the nightlife that goes on till 3:00 a.m. and in summer on Friday night and Saturday almost ALL NIGHT they can’t believe how vibrant and so full of life this city is. Here is another link below of Crescent Street on which you have NOTHING BUT RESTAURANTS, CLUBS AND BARS ON BOTH SIDES AND PEOPLE EAT ON TERRACE AND ON PAVEMENTS

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/24/Crescent_Street.jpg/800px-Crescent_Street.jpg

Watch the slide show here:

http://vacation.away.com/travel-gd-montreal-travel-photo-gallery-sidwcmdev_093962.html?gclid=CMbJrfKgkaACFVRf2godGnzqdg

http://mixonline.com/mixline_live/montreal.jazz.fest.web2.jpg

The above link is of Jazz Festival, FREE JAZZ for 10-12 nights, see the picture there are atleast 200,000 – 300,000 people in one place on week-end nights.

I think your friends or whoever you came with must have taken you to Jean Talon (JT for short) and that is a pretty RUN DOWN AREA and it is outside the main city which is about 15 k.m. from downtown and mostly desi refugees live there and that is why you find a lot of desi restaurants over there, not a single one is posh where you can take your formal friends for dinner. That is another thing that some of the restaurants make good, cheap desi food.

Omer Admani

Pls. don’t debate on economy and I am neither comparing the economy nor the size of big American cities like NYC, Chicago, LA, Miami OK? It wasn’t waterpolo but ice hockey which is Canada’s national game and that comment was only in jest to tease you that the girls have beaten them and got GOLD.

As regards America is an Empire? Yes it is sitting on a pile of debts! World’s largest debtor. They owe TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in debts to China alone. Trillions of Petro Dollars are in the US only on paper, because these idiot Arabs will never be able to get their petro-dollars out of America, ever. All that you see is a FARCE, yes F A R C E

Anyone who reads your comments about your knowledge of geography or about the image of Montreal that you think it is comparable to Syracuse will only laugh. newguy is nice he did not laugh at you he simply pointed out that your argument against Montreal will hold no traction. That is so true.

America is a big country, the Americans are great people, but most of them are naive because they never go out of America. Examples, George Dubia Bush went to Paris once in his life before being elected as the President of America. Sarah Palin never went out of America in her whole life. There are millions and millions of them like them. Yes, in India and Pakistan too you will find many Indians and Pakistanis never went out of their country, but an average Indian and average Pakistani who lives in India and Pakistan have better knowledge of the world than a average American. Those Indian, Pakistani students who come to the US (except for you don’t get mad at me) are generally very knowledgeable and the US students envy them for having such diverse knowledge about the world and more so when they tell them things about the US which they don’t know. I am right newguy?

NO Omer Marijuana is not the cause for sour relations its because they got defeated in hockey by the Canadian girls

Come on Omer pls. the genuine reasons for this is America’s dual policy on NAFTA and for breaking the rules and for imposing undue restrictions on the import of timber and levying taxes and duties. Also on buying the Canadian Oil from Alberta and Electricity from Quebec………. find out for yourself and you will know what I am talking about.

They keep talking to us like Big Brother and dictating terms and, patrolling the borders as if their whole borders are threatened by the terrorists who cross the borders from Canada into America. They can fool their own people based on one or two remote cases and keep creating fear among their own people. Watch Fahrenheit 411 and you will know.

As regards the legal age for consumption of alcohol which is 18 in Canada and 21 in the USA, the Canadians are more sensible, they don’t get drunk like a skunk even when they are younger than their American colleagues. The first thing they ask anyone is, ‘WHERE IS THE LIQUOR STORE?’ They get drunk the very first night they arrive obviously then they are not in senses to go and see or enjoy the city. They either get drunk in the hotel rooms or in bars or caught driving drunk.

Omer

Why don’t you Google yourself and check the population of Montreal? Officially it was 3,814,700, unofficially it is 4.2 million. That is normal for every country or city that the population as per census is less than the actual population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Montreal

As regards Boston

Boston alone has a population of 609,023 as of 2008 census. The greater Boston area population is as follows:

Boston 609,023
Cambridge 105,596
Lowell 103,615
Brockton 93,007
Quincy 92,339
Lynn 86,957
Nashua 86,576
Newton 82,139
Somerville 75,662
Lawrence 70,014

Total 1.4 million population. Check Wiki. Here is the link:
https://legslip.wordpress.com/wp-admin/edit-comments.php

Here is a table of world’s largest populated cities:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_proper_by_population

Your NYC is 13th number

Mumbai is 2nd
Karachi is 3rd
Shanghai is 1st (barely a little more than Mumbai)

“greater NYC would be close to 100s of millions if not billions”, Omer admani

The total population of USA is 304 million and you are talking of NYC in 100 millions if not billions ? LOL… are you talking about human population or the cows?

As regards Americans happy in the USA and not desirous to go out of the country is just like a frog in the well. You know some orthodox Quebecois also feel that way and those who are getting more education started going out and then they come back and say, Wow There is a whole world out there……. !!!! Jacques Villeneuve the World Formula-1 Racing Champion from Quebec after winning the title bought a fancy nightclub in downtown and named it NEWTOWN. The French journalists told him that it is an English name and not a French name, he said, “Open your eyes and go out, there is a whole world out there.” There is an expression in English called, “happy and living in a fools paradise.”

If a Punjabi stays in his Pind you call him a Paindoo. But, you are so proud for an American who wants to stay in a bigger Pind and not worry about the rest of the world. Complacency issi ka naam hai, Omer !

If you look at the worlds most densely populated cities list that I have posted, Delhi, Mumbai and Kolkata are the most densely populated cities in the world. I have been to all these cities, including the others such as, Karachi, NYC, London, Istanbul, Moscow, Beijing etc. which are in that list, to be very honest with you I don’t like to live in that kinda hustle and bustle with such huge traffic jams. Au contraire, I also don’t like to live in small cities or towns. For me, after seeing hundreds of cities in the world, Montreal appeals the most because it is not small and it is not big, it is very special as newguy said. It has almost everything one needs. The winter is severe but once you start living here you get used to and YOU ARE WRONG about dark gloomy days, we have more sunny days here even in January and February as opposed to Seattle, Vancouver and other North American cities. When it snows it snows but, otherwise we have nice sunny days. I can’t say anything about some desi people wearing jackets even in summer except for laughing. Yes, some of my friends from Dubai came in August when the temp was +26C and we were sitting outdoors and he asked for a jacket.

When it is -30C and it gets warm towards -5C most people come out on the streets for a cigarette break in t-shirts or normal shirts ….. its all relevant. You get acclimatize very soon. When I came here for my first winter, I used to wear gloves in September now, if I have to go in a car I hardly wear them but, if I have to stay outdoors for more than 15 minutes then in Jan & Feb. I do.

In Dubai, during June July if you park your car out in the sun, you cannot touch the car steering wheel, first you have to keep the doors open for 4-5 minutes and then start the AC and leave it on for a while and then get in, even by the time you reach your destination (10-15 minutes) the car is still warm. But, people get used to. Even a tiny grocery shop is air-conditioned so no one complains about the heat. Its a matter of time you get used to. So, please don’t ditch us for being a cold city. Yes, the country is cold but, the people are warm and they do a lot of outdoor sports during winter.

newguy

Your views are more balanced and matured. Omer tou phir Omer hai na? Jab yae Omer Rasida ho jaiga tab samjhay ga. (Omer Rasida means aged and matured)

newguy when was your last visit to Montreal?

Oh, Omer btw, Crescent street is not just one street that is like that, we have St. Denis which is in the Latin Quarters it has hundreds of Italian restaurants and there is a little Italy there. Then we have another street full of clubs and that is St. Laurent Street and not to mention the old and beautiful Old Montreal. The Mexicans Mariachis are playing live band, the Irish and Scots are playing their pipe bands wearing traditional costumes, you came to Montreal with some Paindoo guys and went to JT the hub of desi refugees and ate food in those restaurants.

Omer Admani

Think of this……….

The area of the former USSR is 22,402,200 km2 it had 13 time zones. Should they decide to stay in their own country, because they have everything?

The area of Canada is 9,976,140 Km2 which is the second largest country in the world area wise, should they decide to live in their own country and not bother about going out and seeing the world?

The area of USA is 9,826,675 km2 ………….. They decide to live in their own fools paradise and want to conquer the whole world ! There is certainly nothing wrong in this !

Omer Admani

Like you have admitted above that you tend to forget things, i.e., when you said Vancouver is just above Burlington Vermont, isn’t it possible you went to some small town or suburb before reaching Montreal? Anyone would laugh at you if you say Montreal down was closed at 11:00 p.m. Actually, in this respect they are like Karachiites night life begins after 10.00 p.m. Btw, did you visit here on Christmas Eve?

Actually that so called mini Pakistan you are referring to is Jean Talon and some of the desi restaurants stop serving food after 12.00 p.m. because, they are not bars and some Indian restaurants which serve liquor are open late. But, in downtown every one is open till 3:00 a.m.

I have answered to your question about area and that is why I quoted the area of the former USSR which has Siberian Desert. If you are talking about learning something you can still learn by going to these places and if you are talking about entertainment that is another matter. The USA for its population is not a very densely populated country. There are empty and barren lands in Nevada and Texas and the forest area of YS parks, etc. How many places did you go? And, how many places the Americans go? Some of them don’t leave their state, the stay all their life in one state.

Omer Admani

As regards health care system Canadian system is not bad, in fact in many ways it is much better than the USA system. The health care system in Canada is funded by a mix of public (70%) and private (30%) funding, with most services delivered by private (both for-profit and not-for-profit) providers. And, in Canada the waiting time at the ER and the referral time for the specialists it is all less than the US hospitals. Although the US govt. spends more money per patient than Canada spends because, the administrative costs for health care are also higher in the United States than in Canada. Also, it is also due to the fact that there are more litigation and malpractices in the US and to cover that they have to increase the cost. The malpractice suits are far more common in the U.S., with 350% more suits filed each year per person as compared to Canada. And even the malpractice costs are significantly higher in the U.S. as compared to Canada. So, spending more money does not mean the patients get quality treatment.

Yes, the U.S. spends more per capita than any other nation in the world, but is the only wealthy industrialized country in the world that lacks some form of universal health care. Do you know what is universal health care? Universal health care is health care coverage for all eligible residents of a political region and often covers medical, dental and mental health care. Typically, costs are borne in the majority by publicly-funded programs. Universal health care is implemented in all industrialized countries, with the exception of the United States.

There is no doubt that the American hospitals use more advanced technology than the Canadians but, again there is a price to pay. The Canadian hospitals provide free treatment for all citizens whereas in the USA they have to have insurance and without insurance even if you are dying on the stretcher no doctor will see you and no hospital will admit you, except in cases where they have special status such as Medicare, Medicaid, and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, which covers only the eligible senior citizens, the very poor, disabled persons, and children.

But, again even under that programme for daily care and outpatient treatments the patients do not get quality time and quality treatment as those who pay or their insurance pays get preference over the poor ones. I am not telling you something out of thin air, but it is based on facts and experience of some very close friends and people whom I know had to go through this, eventually they got proper treatment because of the fear of litigation owing to negligence and avoiding to see a genuine case which needs proper attention. Whereas, such negligent treatment is not possible in Canada as the doctors are not paid a salary but, they get a fee from the public sector based on the number of visits by a patient. Therefore, all patients are treated equally.

The average income of a Physician in the USA is twice the amount of money earned by a Canadian Physician. Therefore, the cost per capita increases, once again it doesn’t mean the quality of treatment has improved if the cost per capita has increased. Even the drugs in the USA are more expensive than in Canada. In the U.S. it is $728 per capita is spent each year on drugs, while in Canada it is $509 per capita. There are several reasons for the disparity. The Canadian system takes advantage of centralized buying by the provincial governments that have more market heft and buy in bulk, lowering prices. By contrast, the U.S. has explicit laws that prohibit Medicare or Medicaid from negotiating drug prices. It means there is a flaw in the health care system. If Obama is having problem in implementing a health care bill it is cost related and not quality related.

The average age of a Canadian is 80 years whereas the average age of an American is 78 years and Canadians enjoy a healthier lifestyle than Americans. It is a fact. ! !!!

As regards smartest people coming to the USA to learn. There is no dearth in this field, we believe in Going As Far As China to acquire knowledge

For your information, The Royal Victoria Hospital at McGill University campus is regarded as the best in the world for two faculties:

Neurology
In Vitro Fertility

Even the Americans come to study or work in these two faculties to specialize in their fields.

OK Omer

Go and have some rest, you have one of the longest debates on LS avec moi it is almost midnight and I have to prepare my RRSPs so good night.

Omer Admani

Lets move ahead, there is a new thread so lets go back to cricket, consider it as a draw because neither of us will agree to each others point of view. I was not comparing Canada with USA and this is the umpteenth number of times I have written here, but you are a JHAKKI you love to debate without rhyme or reason and do not wish to give up.

George Bernard Shaw when he came to the USA for the first time, he was addressing a large public gathering and he said, “HALF OF THE AMERICANS ARE FOOLS” and there was an outrage and everyone started yelling at him, how dare you? Who the hell are you to say this? And, blah, blah….. So, Bernard Shaw said, “OK, I AM SORRY I TAKE BACK MY WORDS, HALF OF THE AMERICANS ARE NOT FOOLS.” They started clapping and cheering him for being so straightforward and cool. So, I will say OK, America is not as bad as Canada, are you happy?

newguy

are you in Reston VA? Which is very close to the Capital. During Christmas I was in Reston for a couple of nights and it seems to be a nice little place with all the hi-tec companies having their offices there. Btw, you guys have received a lot of snow this season? It appears that all that crap that we used to get between Christmas and St. Valentines Day dropped earlier on the way!

This is one of the mildest February winters that I have experienced here, with temp remaining between +3C to -6C and no snow ( may be a few inches once in a while ) normally it is between -20C to -35C and snow not inches but in feet.

newguy

Yeah I could see the quality of buildings and roads in Reston as compared to NJ and its Garden State Pkwy, which is so old and dilapidated and, we were on GS Pkwy during rush hour and got stuck for more than 2 hours to cover that 45 km stretch. Reston is indeed a neat place I kinda liked it. Lets move on from here to the new thread about match fixing and the appointment of more match fixers in the system i.e., Ijaz Ahmad and Wasim Akram.

Omer Admani

Yes, I do have a good memory, its a fact. Its only a couple of months ago we went on that trip and obviously anyone would remember if you are stuck for 2 hours on a parkway. And, the quality of road on that so called Garden State Pkwy was similar to the one we have here in Montreal (lots of pot holes). The construction mafia and the govt. that approves road construction projects here work like a hand in glove, they make hundreds of millions of dollars, which is a shame but its also a fact.

newguy

Exactly NJ is pretty rundown state. That is why immediately after that, when we reached Reston there was a kinda big contrast and it looks so clean, with nice new glass buildings and nice homes and it looks like there is money. I have noticed that wherever desi people start living in majority that area becomes pretty rundown. In London, Glasgow, Birmingham etc., when the desi population starts to increase in one locality, everyone else starts moving out from there. In Glasgow there is an area called Pollockshields, it was built by Jewish people and you can tell by the size of the stone houses that once upon a time it was a pretty decent locality, eight bedroom stone houses and in late ’70s and early ’80s when the property value went down, those houses were sold for under 100K and desis started to buy on 10% mortgage, the Jews moved out from there to Whitecraig area and today the Pollock Shield houses are for almost a million pounds each and almost paid off. So, they refinanced their houses, took 50% of the value in cash and bought posh homes in Islamabad i.e., £500,000 or Rs. 500,000,000 enough money to spoil the market and they did. Some of the desi millionaires in £ sterling have started to move into Whitecraig area in Glasgow, so its gonna be another Pollockshields in the next two decades.

Varun

Jhakki means the one who argues for no rhyme and reason. Argument for the sake of argument type people. Sweetie gave this title to Omer Admani

Omer Admani

When I criticized Garden State Pkwy, at the same time I criticized the road conditions of Montreal that we have so many pot holes and that is because of the fact that the govt. deptt. that awards contracts to the contractors they work like a hand in glove, its a mafia. So, didn’t I criticize here? The problem is you never read everything like khansahab said, you always skim read and pick up something only to argue, and no wonder why Sweetie said you are a Jhakki.