A DEPRESSING AFFAIR………………………….

Pakistan swept aside Zimbabwe and this somehow led captain Malik to declare that this team can beat Australia. Pakistani cricket fans are amongst the most fickle in the world and in many quarters people celebrated thinking that Malik’s statement has some sort of realistic appeal.

However I was not impressed. On more than one occasion Pakistani bowlers failed to bowl Zimbabwe out. Apart from Nasir Jamshed no youngster was given adequate chances to prove his worth. Also, what was perplexing was that Salman Butt, already a proven failure in international cricket, was given no less than 3 chances by Malik. Why is Malik obsessed with the likes of Butt and Akmal? Why are Butt and Akmal preferred even when reserve openers and a wicketkeeper are present the squad? Both of these failed players were played in 3 of the 5 matches. This was the most disappointing feature of Malik’s captaincy for me. If Pakistan is to prosper in the long run Malik has to end his love affair with Butt and Akmal and give more chances to deserving players like Khurram Manzoor and Sarfraz Ahmed. Malik has also been extremely unfair to Fawad Alam who has so far proved to be a multi dimensional cricketer despite the few chances he has received, although he has been placed in the squad by the selectors frequently. This series was a chance to harness the talent of youngsters and Malik spoiled it, possibly because he was more concerned about strengthening his already solid ties with Misbah, Butt and Akmal and also because he did not want to take a risk by playing inexperienced options. That was defensive on part of Malik and in my view he should be penalised by the PCB for not utilising the youth ahead of his friends in the team.

A notable difference between Pakistan and India, which has already been pointed out by some posters, is that of the different phases the teams are in at present. Both teams need to try out youngsters, but for different reasons. India are looking for the future and discovering talent that will rescue them when the likes of Tendulkar and Dravid depart, whereas Pakistan are desperately seeking consistent and reliable players that can consider the national interest ahead of personal egos and selfish interests. In effect, Pakistan needs some consistent, fit and committed cricketers to rescue its pathetic state NOW whereas India has 1 or 2 years to enjoy its newly glorified status. But Pakistan is being led currently by a conceited, biased and weak captain who is a talented batsman but has a weak mind that lacks long term planning skills. Sooner or later it seems that Malik will be replaced by Misbah ul Haq.

Another huge worry for Pakistan is the bowling department. Are Pakistanis coming to terms with the fact that in the absence of Shoaib Akhtar, Mohammad Asif and Umar Gul Pakistan lacks match winning bowlers? Why is it that the most talented bowlers in the country are also the most unfit? Fast bowling has been Pakistan’s traditional strength and this current crisis is saddening news for Pakistan cricket fans. There were a few impressive stints of fast bowling from Kamran Hussain and Wahab Riaz, however no bowler seemed to carry that “zing factor” that Shoaib Akhtar has, or Wasim and Waqar had for that matter. Currently Pakistan has more to worry about Asif and Gul as opposed to Shoaib Akhtar. Gul now may possibly miss the Australian tour (should it go ahead although the chances look bleak) and I am of the view that these fast bowlers need to be demoted now as they clearly lack commitment.

Pakistan cricket is going downhill. There are many short and long term measures that can save this team but the biggest worry of all perhaps is that no effective changes look to be implemented.

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  1. #1 by Rohit on February 9, 2008 - 1:55 PM

    Some guy mentioned previously, i think gufran. that every tide has an ebb. yes we will worry now but soon some great cricketers will also emerge from pakistan- they always have. dont worry yaar.

  2. #2 by Rohit on February 9, 2008 - 2:19 PM

    new zealand have thrashed england. what a pathetic miserable team england are. they can do everything apart from playing sport.lol

  3. #3 by samy on February 9, 2008 - 2:50 PM

    One question I wanted to ask is, whatever hapened to Asim Kamal? He was very impressive against India both at home and away, and I remember he scored an 80 in Australia in the only Test he played against them, so why has he not been given enough chances?
    Also, many people believe that Akmal should be played only as a specialist batsman and not as a keeper, I agree but why has Sarfraz not been given an oppurtunity to bat? He looks like a safe keeper, and if he can bat well, Pak can forget about Akmal for the time being and can search for a good middle order batsman and an opener.

  4. #4 by khansahab on February 9, 2008 - 3:07 PM

    Samy,

    There are many conspiracy theories regarding what happened to Kamal. But what most people believe is that he could not be chosen ahead of Inzamam, Yousuf and Younis. Also his domestic form has not been wonderful so the selectors do not have much of an incentive picking him.

    But I agree with you, he is the unluckiest cricketer to ever have played for Pakistan as he deserved many more chances. In fact the way he played against South Africa in one series- I think he could have easily replaced Inzamam or Younis. Anyway his international career is finished now.

  5. #5 by amit. p on February 9, 2008 - 3:18 PM

    It is now apparent that pak team is going through some sort of internal politics plus personal interests. I dont know much ab’t it so i wont digg into that .. just as an outsider following is my (hypothetical) solution. Probably it shud have done it by now against zim.

    Remove mallik and appoint afridi as an odi captain(atleast for yr or so). Misbah, younis and yousuf are other permanent batsmen. Send younis to open the inning and yousuf at no 4, misbah 5, afridi 6.Then two regular slots are vaccant for younster plus keeper at 7. Sarfaraz is far better behind the stumps and given some chances the kid looks like will improve his batting too. So fix him as a keeper. Now for two important places (opener and no3 ) management shud try out specialist batsmen.

    In bowling department remove akhtar from odi squad. Gul and asif shud form the main attack .. and for two other slots try out those bowlers who move the ball. Anwar ali, jamshed ahmed shud have given chance rather useless fellow.

    All seems hypothetical .. but the way politics is growing in the team i can sense removal of mallik .. and finally after getting beaten miserably by opponent, management will come to this point.

  6. #6 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 9, 2008 - 3:32 PM

    Distressed and depressed people end up in a pathetic depressing affairs. Malik’s romance in real life and as a skipper is also very pathetic and depressing. He has deceived his life partner, her family and is doing the same with his players and countrymen.

    The whole world knew that he got married to that Indian girl and when he went to play in her city and after scoring 80 odd runs against the zonal team, smashing a few big sixes, he proudly said to the press, “I played well here and kept my izzat in my Sasural” (in-laws territory) and the news paper quoted his innings with headlines such as “Hyderabad’s Damaad (son-in-law) did not disappoint his in-laws.”

    Now when things have gone sour, he denies his marriage completely and also failed to appear on Nadia Khan’s TV show because he knew that he would be torn to pieces by that smart lady. Anyways thats him a disappointed, dejected, depressed and disgrunted person who wants to stay behind the curtains to lead and not like a man who leads from the front.

    The more you talk about Pakistan’s cricket affair under Mule-ick’s leadership the more pathetic it gets.

    Talking about why the Pakistani fast bowlers are unfit? The simple answer to it is they don’t follow the regime. Their diet and their eating habits and their attitude towards life in general and their priorities are very different from the fast bowlers of other countries.

    Look at the muscular built of Shoaib Akhtar, he shows off his chest muscles, his biceps and triceps as if he is there for a body-building competition. Compare his built with the built of Brett Lee, Johnson, Bracken and see for yourself. Even as of today Waqar Younis appears to be more fit than Shoaib Akhtar.

    Zaheer Khan when he put on weight lost his speed, the zing and the bite was gone and he was dropped from the team and stayed out for nearly a year. He went on a diet plan and exercise, took a sensible regime, lost a considerable amount of weight and came back as a lean mean bowling machine and he was probably the highest wicket taker of 2007 with 47 wickets?

    Shoaib Akhtar is down the hill, he will never be able to bowl the same way again. He might show the sporadic brilliance and that too, if he is lucky to play in the side and get a few quick wickets in his first 4 overs. Because, after that he is seen huffing and puffing inhalers on the sidelines.

    With all due respect to Misbah ul haq, the selectors have put him in a difficult situation by making him the vice captain. There was no need for them to burden a 34 year old player with this VC post. He came into the lime light at the fag end of his career, therefore there is no need to put pressure on him and drag him into politics. It would be foolish to assume that he never had any talent before. And even more foolish to say that its just during this T20 that he discovered it? Actually he had it from the time he started playing, he was given chances BUT dropped on more occasions because he did not score a hundred or a big fifty and there were other players in the queue waiting for their wings and some of them crash landed like him.

    People like Butt got more chances because he scored a couple of hundreds against India. Yasir Hameed made a century on debut against a minnow and then banked on it for several years as an automatic choice for the opening slot along with Farhat. He never showed any spark against the stronger oppositions, in fact he too failed like Butt. Farhat had the talent but he is stupid enough to ruin his career due to his hotheadedness and lack of mentoring. Imran Nazir is another example very similar to Farhat, but sensible enough to keep his options open for the selectors to consider him IF all other openers fail and to me Nasir Jamshed is following in the same steps of Nazir and Afridi.

    Malik as a batsman used to be OK and as a bowler he was and still is very mediocre but, as a captain he is “disgustipatingly” pathetic. Since he became the captain his over all performance went down except for the last 2 matches against Zimbabwe where he pushed himself up the order and tried to bowl the last over shows his selfish attitude and his desire to succeed at whatever cost.

    With another blast at an election rally in northern Pakistan the chances of Australia visiting Pakistan gets dimmer and dimmer. Lets keep our fingers crossed and hope that they come. Playing at a neutral venue is a stupid idea. Its better to play in Australia than playing in Sharjah or Sri Lanka.

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  8. #8 by Rehan Khan on February 9, 2008 - 4:27 PM

    Malik’s time is up.When you gotta go you gotta go………

    Unfortunately he is contracted till end of 2008. Man this guy is the weakest of all captains.

    Who is running the team? The whole thing is haphazard. Im telling you, Pakistan can never be a winning team with this guy as the leader. Super captains like Waugh, Ganguly, Nasser Hussain made champions of inconsistent and talent less players. This guy is doing the opposite. Remove Malik now.

  9. #9 by Rehan Khan on February 9, 2008 - 4:31 PM

    Btw, someone has vote for Yunus Khan to be captain on the poll? Can i ask why? He doesnt even want captaincy?!

  10. #10 by Shahid on February 9, 2008 - 5:34 PM

    Javed Khan,cant you see-Misbah made VC because the team management thinks Malik has no long term survival. I dont know who Pakistan plays now after australia, maybe the ASIA CUP. If Misbah can be captain later this year he can lead country for 2 years, maybe he can lead country to World CUP 2011.

    Also why you think that bombs in Pakistan should prevent australia from coming? Is any bomb ever targeted for cricketer? Name me one cricket who was hurt by bomb blast?

    Also Javed Khan, why are you against Malik so much? Personal enemies? Jealousy?

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  12. #12 by hamza on February 9, 2008 - 6:33 PM

    ever the pessimist, khansahab jee? they won 5-0 and let them take a breather. it could have been worse. zimbabwe could hav won a couple of matches.

    take a chill pill.yes i know we are a pathetic team but celebrate for a bit will ya?

  13. #13 by Tauqeer Malik on February 9, 2008 - 10:31 PM

    Is Australia touring Pakistan or not?

  14. #14 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 9, 2008 - 11:03 PM

    Shahid

    The point that I was trying to make about captaincy or VC is very clear. Look at Australia and New Zealand for example.

    After Steve Waugh the straight away made Ricky Ponting the captain and the captain in the making now is MJ Clarke and I can bet on anything that Clarke is capable of leading the team better than Hayden, Lee or any other senior player. Also, he has many years of cricket left in him. He is an excellent motivator and he has brains unlike dimwit Mule-ick.

    New Zealand after making Flemings have now made Daniel Vittori who is an excellent choice and he would be passing the torch to Taylor. They are constantly allowing Taylor to play despite a few blemishes and bad scores, because he is such a good talented young cricketer. They are grooming him. People think that may be Brendon McCullum might take over from Vitorri, but I think it will be Taylor.

    When you choose a captain he has to be 25 – 26 and must have some guts and not a weak, meek, cunning sly fox like a guy who ruins the team.
    I have nothing against Malik as I have written in my previous comments above that he is OK as a batsman and he is a mediocre bowler. There is nothing great about his bowling and he is a better fielder than many. Thats because we have people like Mohammad Yousuf and Kaneria and the bunch of fast bowlers who are a known “Khudda”.

    And Misbah should not have been disturbed by this added responsibility, since he was made the VC, then he should have been given a chance to lead against Zimbabwe in the last two ODI’s. Why didn’t Malik give him a chance? Why did he drop Afridi and not himself? He dropped himself out of the test series when they lost the first test so badly against India and the strategy was to throw the towel at Younus Khan, if he accepts and looses then its his problem and if refuses to lead then he is gone!

    So, it was a two way sword that Malik used it and withdrew it when he saw he can do well against Zimbabwe. Can’t you see that he is ruining the team? Every single person with the exception of a few die hard Malik fans no one wants him to Captain the side.

    Anyways, my opinions are personal but there is nothing personal against any player. Do you think any one of us go and interfere in the lives of these people? NO. They haven’t done anything personal against us. So why say that we have any personal grudge against them?
    If someone thinks like that its his own perception.

    For example if I support Afridi its my perception he is not my brother, relative, friend nothing any one can criticize him and say whatever he wants to as a blogger its my prerogative to either agree or disagree and for you its the same.

    I hope I have made myself very clear, or do you need any further explanation?

    Best regards
    Javed

  15. #15 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 9, 2008 - 11:05 PM

    Oh, on the bombs

    actually for me its no problem because I know that the bombs that are exploding are 1000 miles away from Lahore and another 1000 mile away from Karachi. And I also know that never ever any bomb was directed towards any cricket team.

    It was a kinda sarcasm for the Australians because they are so wary of the situation as if the terrorists are waiting for them.

    All I can do is laugh at their paranoia.

  16. #16 by Awas on February 10, 2008 - 1:14 AM

    The problem with our team is they have difficulty in scoring runs especially in tests. When you do not have good scores to defend or for that matter you cannot plan an attacking strategy either. To build an innings patiently like the seasoned Indians do in tests is beyond our Gulli Danda nature. That is why we did well in T20 and we are an alright team in ODI’s.

    As far as Malik is concerned, he may be the weakest captain we have ever had but in reality we do not have a viable option either. If Misbah had been around for a long time, he should have been a good choice for a captain as he is educated as well. As Javed A Khan mentions because of the other seniors around he did not get a part to play in team until Inzi retired. I do believe it’s difficult to discard seniors when they are doing well. For example, many were gunning for Yuvraj’s inclusion in tests against Australia even at the expense of Laxman. Now we all know how wrong such people were. Even by including Yuvraj by tweaking the opening combination, we saw Laxman proved his worth whilst Yuvraj failed.

    It looks like Pakistan would just have to go through the motions of persisting with Malik as captain until a viable option is found. The one who was groomed disappointed everyone by refusing at every juncture and that surprised quite a few. This just shows lack of maturity and mental strength that is common amongst Pakistanis in all walks of life.

  17. #17 by Phil Ackroyd on February 10, 2008 - 10:41 AM

    Why dont you cover England on this site too, or any other non Asian team for that matter?

  18. #18 by .................................. on February 10, 2008 - 11:37 AM

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  19. #19 by khansahab on February 10, 2008 - 11:44 AM

    India won a comprehensive victory against Australia. The new order in world cricket is changing and India is rising at the top. Dhoni has become like the new Tendulkar for India- he seems to be one of the most mentally tough cricketers around and has become a solid finisher for his team.

    Indian bowling has improved drastically under the new coach, Prasad. Not only has there been an improvement in fitness and line and length of the bowlers, their attitude has also been positive and focused.

    Had it not been for Tendulkar’s innings, India would have probably lost. No disrespect to Dhoni or Sharma, but I don’t think that India would have been able to handle the pressure as well as they did later on if Tendulkar had been dismissed for 15 or 20 runs.

    The umpiring assisted India in this match but increasingly matches are being won and lost because of the umpiring these days and we should also not forget that positive and negative umpiring affects all teams- so we can’t take the credit away from Indian bowlers who were simply superb.

    Well done India.

  20. #20 by khansahab on February 10, 2008 - 12:00 PM

    I was also impressed by I Sharma’s attitude in the match ceremony his Hindi interview later on. He seems to be modest and unassuming, and has a good head despite being a youngster. I did not find him arrogant like Mohammad Asif was following his impressive entry into international cricket.

  21. #21 by Az on February 10, 2008 - 12:23 PM

    khansaab,

    nice 2 see ur site growin in reputation day by day. u deserve it dude. nice idea to rename the site n make it mor appealin to the world out ther!!!

    oh yea and india played well, in ur face aussie power lol! i rekon india might go on and win dis CB series, they got the players to do tht!!

  22. #22 by Rohit on February 10, 2008 - 12:52 PM

    well played india but why is Pathan being used at no 3 position? he will get out and pressure will be applied. there is no need to play him there- he is doing fine at no 7 or 8.i was also impressed by sharma, he looks to be a good find for the future. no one has spoken about his height- obvious advantage.
    good captaincy by dhoni who is a role model for all players. the great thing is his captaincy hasnt affected his batting.

  23. #23 by samy on February 10, 2008 - 1:58 PM

    CricJunoon…that’s a catchy name.

    India surprised everyone today with a terrific bowling and fielding performance, but once again they lost 2-3 wickets in no time. India were lucky with the umpiring decisions today but I feel they failed to capitalize on them. From 89/2 they slumped to 102/5. However Dhoni once again rescued the team and this time his partner was Rohit Sharma, who played a good innings under pressure. India have shown in this series that they can bounce back from tight situations and today too, along with Dhoni and Rohit, the bowlers, esp. Ishant came back with a bang after being smashed by Hayden.
    However, India do need to worry about why they cannot string together partnerships after losing a wicket and also about what to do when the part-time bowlers like Sehwag, Yuvi etc get hammered for runs. I think the middle order problem can only be solved if and when Yuvraj gets back to form, and he’ll have to start contributing quickly or else the inexperienced middle-order will look all the more brittle. I also wonder why there was a need to send Pathan at 3. If they wanted quick runs, why not give someone like Uthappa a chance to bat? He too can be a key player for India in future matches. Otherwise, it’s better to go with all-rounders like P.Kumar who can be the fifth bowling option.
    This match reminded me of the India-Aus match at Mumbai, where India won the match chasing 193, when at one stage they were 140/8. Although the situation was not as dire here, Aus really made India struggle, and because of this they will be favourites to win the CB series. For the next match, I would still say that SL have a slight edge, since a loss would make it very difficult for them to go to the finals and they would be desperate for a win. But India’s confidence will be sky-high after today’s win, so we can once again see a very good contest between the two teams.

  24. #24 by ahmed11 on February 10, 2008 - 2:16 PM

    pathetic demonstration by australia. India will meet australia in final and its gonna be a tight contest. Sri Lanka are the weakest team and have little chance for survival.lookin at Indias confidence and body language i think they will give a hard time to Sri lanka. lets face it, sri lanka is not the same team anymore and india is also a different team now. i think yuvraj is a liability this series and should be dropped. better to proceed with youngsters because yuvraj’s confidence is at an all time low and i dont think he is going to regain that playing the power of australia.

    Dhoni is incredible, a great cricketer with a great mind. i am not a great fan of Sharma but he impressed me today. i want to see more of uthappa- he can accelerate and also has good temperament.

    the bowling was very accurate and i think the indian attack is beginning to find out how to get aussies out, as there is a pattern. good coaching has helped india. this shows that a local coach can help you better than foreign coach. in pakistan we are desperate to get a foreign coach but i think prasad is currently doing wonders for india.

    anything can happen in cricket but i think india will win against Sri lanka.

  25. #25 by amit. p on February 10, 2008 - 2:45 PM

    @ Admin,

    It wud be better if u guys have the link for http://www.cricjunoon.blogspot.com on the current address … otherwise many will be miss out in guessing the new name of this site.

    @ Rehan

    I am one of those who voted younis for the captain since i dont know whether it was asked for odis or tests. In current situation no other guys have the credential (plus skill plus temperament plus virtually everything :D) to captain in both formats of the game .. but all knows ab’t his stand .. so let management bargain him by giving only test captaincy. May be he agrees !! Afridi is not the spontaneous choice to lead odis .. but its just a damage control move. As i have told earlier that i dont know ab’t these guys much .. its just an outsider’s view.

    And finally on india’s win … one thing is sure, these guys are gelling better and better by everymatch .. thats a good sign for future … but yuvi’s terrible form continues and that leads to bigger instability in the middle order than bringing youngsters. This is the time when these guys shud stand up and contribute to this young team. Maybe sharma shud get promotion ahead of yuvi to play his natural game.
    This match only showed that if u got quality bowling (plus assisting pitch) then runs will be hard earned. Lee was throwing bombs out there and I. sharma javelin.

  26. #26 by Tauqeer Malik on February 10, 2008 - 3:01 PM

    rehan khan sahab,

    can you stay in todays world plz? dude younas khan has changed his mind. now he wants to lead the side. you didnt see his interview?

    Tauqeer Malik

  27. #27 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 10, 2008 - 3:16 PM

    I watched the full Australian innings and I didn’t watch the Indian batting at all. Two, three reasons, one it was too late, two due to bad weather the satellite pictures were choppy and three, Australia were all out so cheaply that it looked like a one sided affair and it turned out to be one. Indians should have made it in 38 overs instead of 45. Anyways, it is still a convincing win.

    After Gilly’s early departure, Maddy Hayden did not stop his stroke play in fact all other top order Australian batsmen were playing more like the Pakistanis, they wanted to over power the Indians by hitting out every ball and in the process they got out cheaply. If you combine the total of Hayden and Hussey and add extras the rest of the ten players made only 43 runs! Thats pathetic.

    Ishant has once again tied down Ricky Ponting and in one over he was able to get Hayden twice, at least came close to getting him twice before getting him out finally. In his first three overs he gave away 31 runs and in the next 6.1 overs he gave only 7 runs and took 4 wickets. He could have got his 5th wicket had Dhoni been a little alert and not dropped that sitter offered by Mitchel Johnson.

    Pathan and Harbhajan bowled very tight and did not allow the Australians to get on top of them. But the earlier damage was done by Ishant who is bowling very well. His ball is rising from the good length and moving away from the batsmen and taking a leading edge from the top part of the bat, close to the handle. Both Ricky Ponting and Symonds got out in similar fashion.

    But, the Australians will learn from their mistakes and in the final they won’t make these mistakes. Especially Ponting, he always plays a good innings in big matches. Whatever it is, the matches are going to be interesting especially since India is on the rise.

    If you look at the young Indian players like, Ishant, Gambhir, Rohit Sharma, Utthappa they are much better than the so called young Pakistani players. Gambhir is any time better than any of the openers Pakistan has and yet he is not opening the innings, because of Tendulkar’s presence.

    Ishant just came out of the blue and is torturing and tormenting Ricky Ponting and that too, in Australia. It is so unlike of what Asif with all his paindooness did, Ishant appears to be a much better bowler.

    When Asif visited Australia last he did nothing spectacular, in fact he appeared like a mediocre but immediately after that tour when Pakistan went to Sri Lanka he played a major role in taking wickets and, then back home he was very effective against India and England both. But, since then his injury problems and prior to that his drug related stories and he was out of the WC and then again out of action now, all are not good signs for a fast bowler and for Pak.

    While India is on the rise, Pakistan with so much talent on paper is on the decline. To pull up the team from down and under Pakistan needs a good leader, a good captain who can do that to lift the morale of the team. But this dolt, whose face is like a cry baby, he appears so disturbed, distressed, depressed and in despair, he can’t lift up his own morale or his self-esteem, what can he do for the team? De rien!

    Awas

    There are alternate possibilities, if they have mental blocks in making Afridi as Captain of the team then, they should make Misbah. What is a Vice Captain? IMO, nothing. But, for sure this guy doesn’t deserve to be a captain. He was a Mule-ick and he will be one 4ever. All he can do is lick, pick or kick from his rear. C’est ca!

  28. #28 by Az on February 10, 2008 - 3:53 PM

    tauqeer,wots ur problem mate.cant u spk 2 ppl in a civil tone.stop fightin man!!
    ‘ope da management will allow this comment……….

  29. #29 by Tauqeer Malik on February 10, 2008 - 5:13 PM

    Az,
    what kind of name is that? Who are you to tell me what to do?
    you seem like a BBCD to me? you know what that means?

    Tauqeer Malik

  30. #30 by Rohit on February 11, 2008 - 8:52 AM

    Yaaron.dont worry about yuvi’s form yaar.he is a key player but the guy is a born fighter. i sense he will return to form soon.nice to see india beating AUS yesterday,as i said earlier.lets hope the bowlers continue the same form,we dont want them gettin injured……..

    oh yes, and http://www.cricjunoon.blogspot.com sounds like a much better name for this site!

  31. #31 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 11, 2008 - 9:26 AM

    I heard that Irfan Pathan’s brother Yousuf Pathan was the stand-by player i.e., in case of an injury replacement he was the one to go to Australia. So, from where the HELL this bloke Manoj Tiwari landed from?

    When he came in to bat and the way he was staring at the Australian fast bowlers, he looked like a constipated bull suffering from pain and agony and desperately wants to sh*t, but can’t due to rectal aneurysm.

    rohit

    Yuvi is a good player but still he is in that “Padokone hole” so he won’t be able to perform well unless he comes out of it. If you look at his facial expressions, his body language, he doesn’t look like the same confident Yuvi.

  32. #32 by amit. p on February 11, 2008 - 5:13 PM

    @ Javed,

    Y. Pathan and M. Tiwari both were stand-by players in case of injuries. Question was why to choose stand-by player when you have got other options in the first line-up? Raina was told earlier that he wud be in playing 11 .. but at the last time dhoni went for Tiwari (gut feeling of captain 😉 ). His tame outing in that match was something due to nervous moment and mostly due to hostile bowling from ever-raring Lee. It happen sometimes with youths in their first outing. But the thing is to notice is how he is going to respond from here ?

    Y. Pathan is another prospect … he is not competing with Tiwari .. his competition is with harbhajan and probably with his brother in odis. He was told by the selectors last year that he needs to improve his bowling … and that guy is responding pretty well. He got decent number of wickets plus one pathan special knock (something 180 in 150 deliveries .. that too against decent ranji attack). So he is there for an all-rounder slot. And if he can start competing with bhajji in bowling then double bonus for indian team.

    And what can be said ab’t yuvi … mysterious problems … fighting with demons in his own mind … he shud look around and see the team formation … if the great guns can be dropped then who is he ? But one good thing came out of this problem .. many of yuvi supporters, including his hyper proactive dad, got the answer that why selectors didn’t give him skipper’s role and went for lesser experienced (plus lesser talented) dhoni.

  33. #33 by Rehan Khan on February 11, 2008 - 10:18 PM

    pakistan is a minnow team. it should be the front runner in the “World Minnow Championship” competition that should be held in bangladesh.

    pakistan can also take part in “World Club Cricket Championship” where pakistani team will face tough competition from club teams in australia, south africa, india and england.

  34. #34 by awas on February 11, 2008 - 10:44 PM

    Now come on Rehan Khan don’t be so disheartened….surly they are not that bad???

  35. #35 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 11, 2008 - 10:56 PM

    amit. p

    appreciate ur input on Yousuf Pathan. I am not aware of his domestic performance, he must have done well to be in the list of stand by players. And whatever little he proved in one outing at the T20 WC in SA last year was enough to judge his talent and confidence.

    I don’t think Yousuf Pathan can compete against Harbhajan, because the later has got his reputation and seniority and it will miles and miles to go before he even come anywhere near Harbhajan. Besides, Harbhajan has been pretty useful with the bat and especially in Australia this time along with Kumble he frustrated the Australians twice and scored 63 odd runs which were very, very useful.

    So, in my opinion there is no comparison between the two. He needs to improve his own batting and bowling to be able to find a spot in the team just like his younger brother did.

    As regards Raina, he played one good innings against Pakistan on the previous trip and scored some 70-80 odd runs and the whole of Indian media was comparing him with Tendulkar. In fact they were saying he is “The budding Tendulkar.” That spoiled the kid, rather they killed his instinct and something definitely went into his head and he didn’t score after that, he is a good fielder but you cannot be in the team purely on the basis of fielding. On that basis Karthik is better than him. Dhoni has outclassed and outperformed Karthik as well as Yuvi.

    Although Yuvi would never admit, but he is so full of arrogance and pride that is causing all the problem. He definitely needs self assessment and deal the situation in total humility rather than pride. Yes, we all know he is very talented but there are times you need to see yourself from outside.

    Sometimes, too much of DAD’s involvement in their kids life also ruin them and their life. Kamran Akmal’s dad is also something like Yuvi’s proactive Dad. I remember his interview on TV a year ago when he was praising both his kids like there is no other wicketkeeper in the whole country.

    He said, I have told both my sons and I have actually trained them in such a way that one should be behind the other and, if one fails the other should take over from him and the “wicket-keeping should be within the house!” And after saying this there was a BIG proud grin on his face.

  36. #36 by Shahid on February 11, 2008 - 11:10 PM

    we know javed a khan will feel bad by this, bur glamorgan club is looking for afridi and i am sure this is a good move for pakistan. this guy is only fit for twenty20 cricket he cant play nothing else. good riddance is what i am say!

  37. #37 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 11, 2008 - 11:11 PM

    What a shame even today’s match is being ruined by rain Gods!

    According to the latest reports its been raining cats and dogs in Canberra. Even a 25 over match possibility is very dim at the moment because there are puddles on the ground and not likely to dry out for a match to be played on that ground.

    The other news headline that I have read was about SULAIMAN TUFAIL and the moment I saw the headlines I knew that his retirement must have something to do with IPL and I am not wrong.

    He is talking all bull shit about family life, anniversaries and blady blah but actually its all about money.

    If IPL is hiring all the good players then why the hell would they not hire the best umpire? So, Simple Simon is after all not so simple, in fact he is the Taufel of all the Truffles. So, I gave him a new name today instead of Simon Taufel he is Sulaiman Tufail.

    Tufail or Tufaili is an Urdu word and it means, you are associated with so and so BUT you are not so important on your own to be invited. So, in his case the players are important and he is associated with the game and the players in one way or the other and that is why he is going there in their tufail as a tufaili.

    Anyways, all this is in jest to create some silly humour because there is no match today, rather tonight and what a shame its rain again!

  38. #38 by awas on February 11, 2008 - 11:15 PM

    Talking of Dads’ involvements and arrogance of Yuvraj, let me tell you what Yuvraj’s Dad once said. It was something like: To carry good genes into next generation, we may have to look for our son’s bride beyond a Desi girl and that Gorees might be better suited for such wonderful Genes that my boy has. Now WTF?

  39. #39 by khansahab on February 11, 2008 - 11:48 PM

    LOL, Salman Bhatt made a century today. Mr BUTT will make centuries against domestic teams and India only. Otherwise he doesn’t have the “butts” to score against anyone else even if it’s a minnow team like Zimbabwe 🙂

  40. #40 by khansahab on February 11, 2008 - 11:51 PM

    Now the world will watch as Mr Malik will honour Salman’s Butt and fight for Butt’s selection in the Australia series, or whatever Pakistan’s next international assignment is.

  41. #41 by JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, C ANADA on February 12, 2008 - 4:20 AM

    Shahid

    Thats an old news, yesterday we all discussed about Glamorgan’s interest in Shahid Afridi and his 12 runs in one ball. But, Nasim Bai has made own Mujra rules about who will play and where? As regards his ability to play T20 it is still better than playing for Sialkot High School team and not fit to captain even that team.

    khansahab LOL @ your commentary on Bhatt’s century and Mule-ick’s eye on it. They are both made for each other. This will suit them:

    Allah nay banayee jori
    Ek Andhaa ek kori

    Awas

    Yeah, its a good timely reminder of what that arrogant dad talked about his son’s gene. I think he must be Hitler’s admirer.

    After 3 1/2 hours of delay the match has started and its good to see some action. So now its a 29 over match with Dhoni and Rohit batting and it is 3/142 in 24 overs. Lets see how much they score and give SL a target to chase, depends on how the out of form Jayasuriya plays.

  42. #42 by Awas on February 12, 2008 - 7:28 AM

    It’s back to square one now in the CB series.

    Bhajji bowled really well but that Bandar Sreesanth was smacked all over!!!

  43. #43 by samy on February 12, 2008 - 7:30 AM

    SL won the match today, but India can take a few positives from this one. A young Rohit Sharma played a good innings for India today, while SL still rely on Jayasuriya to give them a good start.
    I think a 29-over game would have suited India better. Sreesanth really isn’t a T20 bowler, and he really struggled today. Ishant and Bhajji were okay, but Sree’s bowling probably costed India the match. The Indian batting was good, but the fielding still needs improvement. India still have a better chance than SL to get into the finals, but they will have to improve in many areas to be competitive against Aus in
    the next game.

  44. #44 by hamza on February 12, 2008 - 10:08 AM

    i dont think india should worry too much.we all kinda expected SL to win this one.what this shows is tht this is a highly competitive series,the SL batting totally dominated indian bowling. this was an excellent exp for sharma playing under pressure in difficult conditions.india should be grateful tht dhoni, sharma and gambhir are in good nick and this means india are not missing ganguly and dravid that much.
    however this defeat has again shown the defects and inconsistency in india’s pace attack- with all pacers going for many runs. i think that unless india becomes a more consistent bowling side, it can never be the no 1 team in the world. this is not to say of course that the bowling hasnt improved…………india has a fearsome bowling attack now, they just need to work on consistency.

  45. #45 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 12, 2008 - 2:48 PM

    LOL Awas

    Man you stole the words from my mouth, I wanted to say the same that the Bandar got mauled by Jayasuriya and in his total 3 overs he gave away 48 runs and I think that must be a lesson for him to keep his antics away from the ground and behave like a man.

    I was disappointed by Ishant Sharma, not for his bowling but by his attitude. In the first few overs when Dilshan tried a few times and swung his bat at his bowling and wasn’t connecting it initially, then Ishant started to give him stares and not just stares but, he started to sledge for no reason and started to say things and one of them was “Go Fcuk yourself Now.”

    That was totally uncalled for because, Dilshan is a very quiet and subdued sort of person who never makes any gestures to anyone.

    After a successful tour to Australia, If Ishant is going back to India with this kinda attitude in his head he will soon be losing his focus and his form and would be sitting on the sidelines and may disappear in the oblivion like so many of the Indian fast bowlers who came and gone with the wind.

    In a rain curtailed match, the team batting second always have the edge because they can then set the pace of their innings. And Sri Lanka did that from the outset with Jayasuriya hammering Sreesanth 23 in one over, had he stayed longer they would have even got the Bonus Point.

    India and their supporters are now consoling themselves by saying India played well in Rohit Sharma, Gambhir and Tendulkar, but that was not the order of the day, they were complacent by scoring at an average of 6 runs per over. Yes, that is fine when you have 50 overs to play but with 29 overs 195 is not a good score to defend, they should have aimed around 240 – 250, they had the wickets in hand and batsmen to play but they were complacent.

    They forgot that any further rain means D&L method might chop off a few more overs and thats exactly what happened there was a revised target of 154 in 21 overs. It was an easy target from a T20 perspective and the SL team went for it right from the word go.

    From my point of view only Rohit played a good innings, while he and Dhoni were doing well, Dhoni slacked and got himself run out, he could have easily dived and saved his wicket, but that was sheer laziness on his part.

    Not only that brought Yuvi to crease who scored only 6 runs and got out in Padukone style but shattered his own confidence more by playing that silly shot and getting out cheaply once again.

    He is still having fun in Padukone’s hole and must have got a text message from his super Dad asking him to warm up and stretch his knee before he uses it. He should have been a it more cautious when he is out of form.

    He hasn’t done anything good to his cause as he is constantly failing and if they persist him in another match and if he fails again or the team fails because of his failure, it would be a very sad ending for India. The won’t be able to fight back, especially if SL takes on Australia and rattles them up like they did to India today, they will be ahead of them on the points table.

    The sad but expected news of today is “Australia is not likely to visit Pakistan, the tour is likely to be canceled.” It is not official yet, but what else do you need to hear from them? The outcome of the meeting in Dubai between the Chairmen of the two boards is very clear. CA aren’t even thinking of sending their security team to Pakistan to assess the situation because a decision has already been made.

    Jeevay Pakastan!

  46. #46 by amit. p on February 12, 2008 - 3:22 PM

    javed

    Bhajji is in good form for yr or so in odis …. but who knows how he will be bowling after 12 months .. but pathan is really competing for no 7 or 8 slot. If india start fielding 5 bowlers (that i think they shud really start thinking at this point) then 7th slot is for Y. pathan, P. kumar and P. chawla. In this formation specially on sub-continental pitches he has got realistic chance. Otherwise i cant see him in top 5 batsmen unless sehwag slumps big time and pathan scoring consistently.

    One of yuvi’s dad famous “anecdote” is something like ..
    after hitting 6 sixes his dad became media attention .. on every channel he started bull-shitting and said one liner as follows ..
    “i taught my son techniques of Lyode and Sobers … and u see he is playing like Richards”. lol
    Its sheer ignorance!

    Today i think indians misread the pitch …. they were happy to post 190 on the board .. but as game progressed pitch has nothing in it. 220 shud be the target in 29 over. Specially when u r playing with only 4 bowlers and one of those is flowing runs like anything. India shud start thinking on the line of playing chawla or p. kumar in place of uthappa specially on good batting tracks.

  47. #47 by khansahab on February 12, 2008 - 8:27 PM

    Butt made 290 but does that make any difference? He is already a proven failure at international level. He lacks the maturity and temperament to succeed in big games and has already played too many matches.

    His brainless supporters however think he will become a changed player. Butt is the king of warm up matches and domestic competitions. He is not an international level player though.

    It doesn’t matter whether he makes 290 or 590, the fact is that he is an idiot who is lucky that the captain and management support him.

    The only way Pakistan will get consistent performances from openers is if they adopt a very strict rotational policy and don’t give an extended run to people like Butt. Many people have the opposite view but we have already tried that method with all the different failed openers we have seen in the past 4 or 5 years. Amongst all the openers Khurram Manzoor has been the most impressive although he has played one match only. I have no hope for Nasir Jamshed because he is a slogger like Nazir and Afridi (Afridi being in the team because of his bowling) and he became lucky against Zimbabwe. So unless he is also exceptionally lucky like Butt and Akmal, he has no long term future with Pakistan.

  48. #48 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 12, 2008 - 8:54 PM

    amit. p

    I think Chawla would be a better option than P. Kumar. The kid bowls well and produces quality balls.

    In a shorter version of the game you really don’t need 7 batsmen, 6 are more than enough. 5 specialist bowlers is definitely better than 4 and India has part time bowlers in Tendulkar, Sehwag, Yuvi and, even Ganguly when he plays. So, I wonder why they opted for 7:4 instead of 6:5 ?

    LOL at Yuvi’s dad and his new comments. Some people who cannot achieve what they want in their own life, want their children to achieve it, that is absolutely fine. But, some do the back seat mothering that is not OK but, it is still a common sight and we see a lot of them.

    The problem is when they get into the front seat and start pulling the staring wheel from them or pushing the accelerator pedal or applying brakes to take total control, then that is pathetic.

    I reckon a very senior executive who somehow reached at the top level of a Multinational Corporation by sheer luck and of course he worked hard to achieve that, but the fact is, he was a real paindoo and not only his English was pathetic but, his physical appearance i.e., looks wise he was very plain and ordinary with no dress sense and was also very short. So, he used to hire young interns only those who were tall, handsome, good looking and who were able to speak very good English and who knew how to dress.

    And he always wanted to project them and push them in every management meeting, it was so obvious that everyone knew that what he couldn’t achieve himself, he wants to do it now by hiring his own deficiencies and assuming to be young, intelligent, good looking, blah, blah.

    People who impose themselves on others are those who are inclined to try and control others lives. They may be driven by insecurity, envy, fear or the need for power.

    These people are deeply critical of themselves in their own minds and underlying that critical nature is unhappiness. Their need to feel sure footed and secure is quenched by controlling those around them, whether they are friends, colleagues, or even their own children. His dad is one of them.

  49. #49 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 12, 2008 - 9:05 PM

    I would like to discuss this issue at length on the PCB rulings.

    First they change the rules at their whims and wishes and then they want to put a duct tape on the mouth of their players. I don’t care what they do with Shoaib Akhtar, because he deserves that.

    But, I really feel bad for Danish Kaneria. Whatever people may think about his performance but the way he is being treated is not fair.

    First they demoted him and when he spoke about it, he is being penalized and admonished.

    Just see what he said: “I am not complaining and frustrated for financial reasons, it is just an embarrassment for me and it pains me very much. I have spoken with the PCB but there does not seem to be any sign that my situation is going to change. The PCB officials have said that part of the reason for my demotion is that I only play Test cricket, but this is not my fault.

    I have always been desperate to be given a chance to prove myself as a wicket-taker in ODIs but never have had that opportunity on an extended basis. My behaviour has always been good on tours, I am rarely injured, what more do I have to do?”

    For saying this they penalize and admonish him and call him for an explanation? Who the hell they think they are? Martial Law Court Administrator?

  50. #50 by Rohit on February 12, 2008 - 10:52 PM

    learned CJ manager javed a khan has made a point about australia not touring pakistan.well wot can i say other than it is hugely sad.it is sad for the obsessive pakistani fans, the disgraced government and the nation as a whole.i would still prefer if the matches are changed to a neutral venue if not australia itself. but i am saying this only because i want to see two good sides competing fiercely. i can understand pakistan fans and PCB will be feeling let down by the news. PCB cant force AUS to tour pakistan but i think both cricket boards should come to an arrangement and arrange series at neutral venue- maybe SHARJAH or DHAKA?

  51. #51 by Awas on February 12, 2008 - 11:19 PM

    Khansahab

    Butt is a very much a case like Graham Hick. Remember? He was a prolific scorer at county level but always failed at international level. Butt is behaving similarly.

    Rohit

    I wouldn’t like series being played at a neutral venue. I would rather see no series at all than this. In which case Pakistan should also boycott their next tour to Australia to teach the scaredy cats a lesson.

  52. #52 by khansahab on February 12, 2008 - 11:20 PM

    Javed A Khan,

    I understand that Kaneria is disappointed but the PCB has now decided to be very strict on performance and other issues like fitness and general attitude.

    I think Kaneria’s (lack of) performance in India deserves demotion. That was a big tour for Pakistan and he went there as Pakistan’s trump card. We speak often about how a series loss against India causes players to shift in the Pakistani squad. Action was taken against the two main bowlers Pakistan had- Akhtar and Kaneria but unfortunately no action was taken against the batsmen (I don’t recall whether Afridi was demoted specifically because of his performance against India too?)

    In fact Kaneria was average on some previous tours as well. So really his performance has waned over the years.

    Now the reason he is being asked to formally explain why he made those statements is because PCB had adopted a new strategy where players can’t speak to the media about their affairs with the Board. I don’t think this will generate a serious outcome as in the past players like Afridi, Younis, Malik, Razzaq etc have all spoken against the Board and nothing happens.

    Kaneria’s problem is a bit like Sami’s. He is fit, committed, disciplined and a team man. But he just can’t do his basic job which is to take wickets at international level! Sami is also a pretty good bowler at domestic level.

    Kaneria is a bit of a red herring in Pakistan cricket because of his religion. The media deals with him sensitively because he is only the second Hindu to play for Pakistan. It is nice to see minorities being included but at the same time, merit and form are the most valuable concerns which supersede everything else. If Kaneria’s form is poor he should not be played. I think this is the right way to go about the situation. Sometimes I have felt that India have played Mohammad Kaif and Irfan Pathan just because they are Muslim- this is obviously when their form wasn’t so great.

  53. #53 by khansahab on February 12, 2008 - 11:38 PM

    Awas,

    I get your point about Butt being similar to Hick as far as incompetence in the international arena is concerned. BUTT I feel Hick is a vastly superior player to Butt.

    And we shouldn’t ignore the fact that players like Hafeez, Nazir, even pathetic performers like Faisal Iqbal etc are all prolific scorers at domestic level. Hasan Raza, the Test reject is probably one of the best all time batsmen to have played domestic cricket in Pakistan. Pakistan has a huge problem with players performing extremely well in the domestic competitions but then failing in the international matches. This is due to lack of mental strength, complacency and inability to play the moving ball. That is why only supremely talented players, who had raw genius and didn’t benefit from constructive and systematic coaching like Hanif Mohammad, Javed Miandad, Saeed Anwar, Inzamam etc are amongst the very few great Pakistani batsmen.

  54. #54 by Tauqeer Malik on February 12, 2008 - 11:47 PM

    Rohit. I agree with your post but do not agreeing on 2 different points

    1. pakistan is not good team like you say
    2. if they play the series will not be competitive

    Tauqeer Malik

  55. #55 by khansahab on February 13, 2008 - 12:14 AM

    This thread has been titled, “A depressing affair” and the tone of the posters discussing Pakistan cricket is certainly quite depressing.

    The situation seems so bad that now people are openly admitting on international blogs that Pakistan can be defeated by minnow teams.

    Certainly in my life this is the first time Pakistanis themselves have lost hope with their cricket team.

    I think Pakistan may however not have such a bleak future because Twenty20 cricket is the on the rise and we all know it will replace much of ODI and Test cricket in the next 15 years or so. Pakistan will always be a good Twenty20 team because it has no shortage of sloggers!

  56. #56 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 13, 2008 - 2:26 AM

    khansahab

    you have defended the PCB in Kaneria’s case by citing his poor performance against India and justified the PCB’s action to demote him. And what about Shoaib Malik? His performance was even more pathetic as a captain he lost the series. Instead of being demoted he got promoted. Afridi and Kaneria got demoted, why? If you look at Afridi’s 2007 average it is better than his previous year’s average. So, what kinda measure or yard stick are they using?

    Talking of Kaneria at least he played all those tests matches in India and a loosing team’s performance especially an individuals will not be the same as the winning team’s individual. And, unlike Malik he bowled the major chunk of the overs in a marathon session. And for your information Kaneria has taken more wickets in India than Shane Warne has taken in India. Are you aware of this record?

    Besides, any bowler be it Kumble or Harbhajan or Warne and McGrath, if there is no support from the other side they are not effective as bowlers often succeed when they bowl in tandem and get wickets in tandem. And, one bowler alone cannot get wickets. Besides, Kamran Akmal has done a great job in making his case worst by dropping so many catches.

    And you know if a simple catch is dropped by the keeper, the bowler gets so dejected and disappointed that he looses his line, length and the rhythm and the batsman goes on attacking the spinner. Especially in India, the Indians play spin better than any other nation. So, give Kaneria the due that he deserves.

    And, my point about this “duct tape policy” is, they are so stupid, why shouldn’t the players also say what they feel, especially when they are treated badly? The PCB talks about transparency and when it comes to hear something that is against them they simply cannot bear it and want to put a duct tape on their mouth and penalize them for nothing and punish them for what and why?

    Tell me who is more important the players or the PCB? Besides, they always have double standards for players they like and they dislike. And no one is saying that Kaneria is being treated badly because of his religion. I think Kaneria takes the game more seriously, more passionately and more enthusiastically and he is more patriotic than that idiot Shoaib Akhtar, who has always tried to tarnish the name and image of the country with his serendipities, stupidities and idiosyncrasies. To say in the words of a lay person “because of his Ch2yapas.”

    It is very easy to dis a player or anyone for that matter. If there are rules they should be fair and transparent and equal for everyone and not one set of rules for Punjabis and another for Pashtuns and yet another one for Karachiites and team selection is done on personal likes and dislikes and central contracts are awarded on the basis of likes and dislikes.

    Promoting Misbah and Malik to category A and demoting Afridi and Kaneria to B, do you think is a good gesture to motivate the players? God forbid if Butt makes a double hundred in a test match, then he will be in the team for 2 years even if he scores a total of 20 in the next 10 matches he will get a central contract in category A. Because, A Butt is a Butt, is a Butt.

  57. #57 by amit. p on February 13, 2008 - 7:05 AM

    I haven’t seen A. qadir much but have seen bowling of mushtaq, saqlain and kaneria quit a lot specially when they were fading. And i see quite a bit of similarities among all the 3 pakistani spinners. Mushtaq became googly master and saqlain became straighter(doosra) master in his career end. Same is going with kaneria now .. lots of flipper and googly he is trying now and overdoing his aggression. Spin bowling is more of patience and taking wickets off stock deliveries at the same time creating doubts with “wrong-ones”. Look how much wickets warne has taken off his normal leg-spin compared to his flippers.

    Butt has scored 290! … its amazing and that too almost run a ball. Whatever be the pitch or bowling attack, 290 is something to look for. Butt must have worked on his concentration.

  58. #58 by Rehan Khan on February 13, 2008 - 10:43 AM

    I am agreeing with Khansahab about the point about Salman Butt. This guy scores heavily in warm up matches and domestic cups but is a loser. After being blessed with 44 chances in ODI’s which is a lot his average is still under 32. he is averaging 47 vs India and his next highest average is 32 vs England. so its a huge difference.
    javed a khan, you are 100% right. punjabis,pathans,muhajirs should all receive same treatment.there should not be politics of favouritism.
    plz allow this post, CJ managers!

  59. #59 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 13, 2008 - 5:21 PM

    btw, why not include England in the world minnows team?

    England has been thrashed by New Zealand especially the second ODI was won so convincingly by NZ just like they won against Bangla Desh team.

    Once again Brendon McCullum got near a world record and remained not out for 80 in 47 balls. Even if he had scored his hundred under 60 balls he would have been among the fast 5 hundreds?

    But, England must have lost this match with one of the biggest margins ever! What a shame.

  60. #60 by .................................. on February 13, 2008 - 11:02 PM

    The verdict is out. The following is how Cricjunoon visitors voted on the poll for who should be Pakistan’s captain:

    Malik- 25%, Younis-25%, Afridi-16%, Misbah-16%, Yousuf-8%, Shoaib-8%

    This clearly shows that public opinion is clearly divided as who Pakistan’s captain should be. Hence PCB is in a difficult situation and we should be tolerant of the fact that decision making in such circumstances is not easy.

    Younis recently expressed his desire to lead Pakistan, but he is not pursuing this ambition actively, possibly because he is aware PCB will not take him seriously anymore as he declined the captaincy offer a few times. Hence Malik emerges as a clear winner from our poll, whether we like him or not!

    Afridi got 16% of the votes but then so did Misbah. The competition between those two is fierce. But at least we know now that the public will not be much supportive if Shoaib Akhtar or Mohammad Yousuf are made captain, as both could only garner 8% votes each.

  61. #61 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 13, 2008 - 11:37 PM

    Hey this is not fair

    I did not participate in this polling because, when I did it wasn’t working so my vote is not included in it and it goes to SHAHID AFRIDI. So, work out the stats and change the percentages.

    Btw

    I like the message @ the bottom of this blog, for some its like “Tattiya.” Those who know the meaning of Tattiya knows what it does. 🙂

  62. #62 by khansahab on February 14, 2008 - 12:06 AM

    In a twist of affairs Sindh beat NWFP. The credit of this goes to a sublime century from impressive newcomer Manzoor and a quickfire 50 by the future all rounder Fawad Alam.

    A lot has been spoken about Federal Areas’ bowling attack and how well the Punjab batsmen handled it- but NWFP had a pretty decent bowling attack too with first class specialists Samiullah, Fazl e Akbar and Shakeel ur Rehman. This match turned to be a feather in the cap of Shahid Afridi, who motivated his men admirably, and the two impressive Karachiites knocking on the doors of consistent international selection, Manzoor and Alam.

    Meanwhile Federal Areas mustered a draw giving Punjab a taste of their own medicine. Lahore based Bazid Khan struck a fine century and thwarted the spin heavy Punjab attack consisting of international players Abdur Rehman, Hafeez and the emerging player Mansoor Amjad. Usman Saeed and Yasir Arafat also played valuable knocks. Rawalpindi all rounder Yasir Arafat continues to impress following his selection in the contracted players’ category and looks like an integral part of the Pakistan team for the future.

  63. #63 by .................................. on February 14, 2008 - 12:42 AM

    Revised polling results:

    Dear friends,

    The JOINT winners of the Cricjunoon poll regarding who should lead Pakistan, are Shoaib Malik and Shahid Afridi.

    The public seemingly is equally behind Shahid Afridi as it is behind Malik and Younis.

  64. #64 by Mohamed Anfaal on February 14, 2008 - 6:09 AM

    DLF the real estate giant has become the official sponsor of IPL pouring in Rs.200 crores to add to the whopping Rs.6000 crore already on the menu,What do we have here? Mass exodus comes to my mind,Gilly and Simon Taufel two recent examples whatever jargon they might have fed to the world the reason plain and simple IPL,Maxwell agent for Brett Lee and I suppose a few other aussies, Shane Warne openly endorsing IPL. Ponting and his mercenaries frowning at their brows and clearly in disagreement with their own board vis a vis the stand taken by ACB against the IPL and desperately trying to wiggle out of an official tour citing silly and lame excuses in a sense making ACB look really silly and alienated from its own troops.
    I guess there are two ways of looking at it, as Gilly said since the day this game went professional the senior pros tended to hold on a bit longer than they should, for various reasons, the new breed had to struggle or bide their time a wee bit more than they and we would have liked but this now gives a different avenue to the senior pros to seek their fortune somewhere else and I dare say brings a smile to the faces of the young guns eager and capable to wear national colors.
    As we know there are two sides to a coin, the fact that sticks out like sore thumb, the lame and silly excuses put up by Ponting and his mercenaries not to tour Pakistan now we know where their priorities lie. What happened to the pride of wearing the baggy green kissing it when you reached a landmark kissing the CA emblem on the shirt and on the helmet, crossing yourself when you reached three figures in test match and conveniently forgetting while playing a state game (As someone commented I guess even the gods don’t watch the state games).
    I guess Maxwells suggestion is most potent ICC needs to chalk out a window of three months in the future for IPL, no international engagement should be in jeopardy because of IPL ,I am in no way against people seeking out an honest fortune in fact I am all for it but the catch word here is “Honest” guess the Aussies don’t know what it means.

  65. #65 by samy on February 14, 2008 - 5:57 PM

    Is the the Under-19 World Cup going to be covered on Cricjunoon?

  66. #66 by .................................. on February 14, 2008 - 6:32 PM

    Dear Samy,

    If you want it to be covered then we will definitely cover it!

  67. #67 by samy on February 14, 2008 - 8:31 PM

    There should be one or two articles dedicated to it. It’s a world cup after all and the players who do well here might be selected for their national teams. You can do a preview and then review the tournament at the end.

  68. #68 by Tera Baap on February 14, 2008 - 11:25 PM

    67 comments? come on you guys must have faked some posts.lol.

    if you are saying you havent faked them i dare you to say where you advertised this site do you have the guts or not????
    and i dare you to allow this message on your site

  69. #69 by .................................. on February 14, 2008 - 11:33 PM

    Tera Baap,

    You can assume whatever you like but your question is answered in the last paragraph of our thread article. So perhaps you need to refer to that.

  70. #70 by JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on February 15, 2008 - 12:31 AM

    A Mule’s Dream to be a DAD.

    Hey guys we have an interesting post here on this blog, its written by a Mule whose dream is to be a DAD. But, unfortunately being a Mule, his creation is based on the basis of E.D.S. But, you cannot curb his feelings to be a dad,so he wants to brag about by keeping his name “Tera Baap,” that is the best he can do.

    As you all know, a Mule is a cross between a donkey and a horse. An impotent organism invented its a genetically cross bred for the usefulness of the masses, especially the poor ones.

    Is it the neophilia or the curiosity instinct that lead to its creation? May be who knows, and it wouldn’t have hurt so much to him, but it is an altogether different story here.

    When the Mule was created out of a genius mind of course, it was obviously for the benefit of those around you and is a blessing for the poor man to use it as a means of transport.

    A donkey has the distinct ability of working dedicatedly. It does not think, it does not question the authority of those that ask it to labor. It simply obeys the commands of his mater and, believes what he says is truth and he must do it.

    Unlike a donkey a horse rebels. It puts up a struggle especially when domesticated. It puts up a fight when pushed too hard. A horse is good to look at it has an aesthetic sight and its strength is a delight to watch.

    With all its qualities, the donkey is not good to look at. And they wanted ‘good looks & strength ‘ and ‘slaves.’ So they hit upon a plan. They crossbred the ‘virile’ horse and the ‘slogging, dedicated’ donkey.

    The result is an amalgamation – someone with the diluted looks and diluted strength of a horse, and a tremendous ability to work, slog but never question the course.

    And the resultant product? An impotent sterile organism, both psychologically and biologically wonderful. And they took pride in its creation. It was their wonder baby; these babies are often referred as Mule-icks it is indeed a major achievement.

    Finally controlling and suppressing the thinking process and any idea contrary to theirs. And they loved it because of what it was and what it is. “And Impotency became a clause. And so the Mules slogged without thinking. They did as they were told without blinking.

    Despite all this he cannot hide his dreams and wants to be the father of his own mother and the son of his own daughter. He thinks he has a jewel in the crown but if you look at the “Topaz” carefully it has hallmarks of all the jewelers stamped on it. Which goes to prove how many hands must have exchanged to become a jeweler’s possession!

    He has yet another petite Oyster which he so blatantly shows to everyone and says mai dar asl iska baap (nahee hoon) like the Mule confirms his dream to everyone that he is everyones Baap, but in reality he could do nothing. Poor soul, may God bless him and his dreams. And let others enjoy his jewels.

  71. #71 by Rehan Khan on February 16, 2008 - 12:08 PM

    Wasim Bari’s 5 cricketers who should be included in the international squad:

    Fawad Alam – left handed batsman
    -Sarfraz Ahmed – wicketkeeper batsman
    -Mansoor Amjad – legspinning all-rounder
    -Jamshed Ahmad – left arm swing bowler
    -Abdul Rauf – medium pace bowler

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