DRUGS, DRUGS AND…………………”BALLE BALLE”!?

Senator Zafar Iqbal Choudhary, who thinks Asaf is "Superstar of Pakistan"

Senator Zafar Iqbal Choudhary, who thinks Asaf is "Superstar of Pakistan"

Who hasn’t heard of sex, drugs and rock n’ roll? In Asaf’s case however, it has been a case of drugs, drugs and “balle balle!” Mohammad Asif came onto the international scene from nowhere and in a matter of weeks, became an international star. Such was his accuracy and his control of late swing that he was immediately compared with Glenn McGrath. He had a clean action, good height and had all the ingredients to make him another Wasim Akram or Waqar Younis.

But alas, it was not to be. Asif has disheartened fans from around the world because of his failure to put his country before his addiction.

O jee balle balle!!!!!!!!!

O jee balle balle!!!!!!!!!

In such a dire situation for Pakistan cricket, Pakistani cricket fans needed a “superstar” who would rescue the team’s precarious standing in world cricket. Asif seemed to be the genuine match winner they were looking for. Consider his strategy on how to get rid of Sangakkara for example, or that ball to Tendulkar that went through the latter’s defences and resulted in the legendary batsman falling on his knees, or the countless times Asif has foxed top order batsmen around the world and laid traps for them. However, Asif is now entangled in a trap himself which might result in him being banned for life.

Hollywood actresses of yesteryears such as Grace Kelly and Elizabeth Taylor were often termed, "Grace personified". However, all Asif has been so far is, "Disgrace personified".

Hollywood actresses of yesteryears such as Grace Kelly and Elizabeth Taylor were often termed, "Grace personified". However, all Asif has been so far is, "Disgrace personified".

What will be the future of Asif and more importantly what will be the future of Pakistan cricket? How do we get rid of this curse Pakistani cricket is under at the moment? How can the PCB be blamed for the conduct of players like Asif and Akhtar? Aren’t these players mature enough and old enough themselves to know there is a limit to everything? I have maintained repeatedly that the Board should not be blamed for the faults that lie within the players themselves. If it is really the Board’s fault, why aren’t other players involved in drugs? There is a problem with the character and attitude with Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammad Asif, because they are the ones always in the news for all the wrong reasons.

.............."Superstar of Pakistan"...........

.............."Superstar of Pakistan"...........

To conclude, Asif has been a major disappointment. He should now definitely be banned for life. There is more honour in banning a vile miscreant than to keep encouraging him and giving him more confidence to abuse and shatter the feelings of a nation. The intolerable sadness though, is that knowing Asaf’s character, he will not learn and he will not realise the pain he has caused to cricket fans. He will continue to do “balle, balle” and he will continue to blame everyone else on this planet without realising that the fault is within himself.

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  1. #1 by theossa on July 15, 2008 - 4:43 PM

    People do all kind of stuff in their private lives and that should be none of our business but when so called “superstars” become so selfish that they don’t give a hoot about the country and fans anymore, they should be brought to earth by all means. Like I said before the weakness of the PCB is encouraging these self or idiot proclaimed superstars to do whatever they might like to do without fear of any accountability. There is a saying that in life and business you don’t get what you expect but you get what you inspect. It’s painful to say but it is true, these players reflect all of us, loose rules which could be bent at will, lack of accountability, injustice, and double standards. I don’t know how happenings like these could be prevented; only a “Sarphira” type leader who has nothing to lose can bring any change or an extreme public outcry could do it. It’s funny some fans still think Asif is innocent, the problem is not that Asif is taking drugs or other players are mocking the rules, the problem is they are taking advantage of our passion for cricket. If characters like Asif and Akhter are allowed to do what they have been doing then that sends a wrong message to other well behaving players that there is no reward for following the rules and there is no penalty for breaking them. As far as Senator Zafar Iqbal Choudhary statement concerns, please keep your dirty politics out of the cricket. Matter of fact it’s people like him who pressure PCB to bend the rules and in turn actually ruin the career of players like Asif. So I say “F*uck You Senator”

  2. #2 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 15, 2008 - 5:10 PM

    LOL @ the Paindoish looks of the SNAYTER ZAFAR IKBAL CHOWDHRY. What a DUDDOO he is and who made him a Senator?

    Please guys don’t assume that ALL Pakistanis look like that Paindoo Chowdhry. You better look at theossa and my picture and assume that ALL Pakistanis are like this.

    I fully agree with theossa that these people reflect all of us and those who see or hear these dimwit, dolts and idiots blabbing nonsensical filth, they think we are all like this. What a shame. We need to rebuild the image of this country. We can’t do much, but, whatever we are doing here is just the first step in the right direction.

    This Paindoo Chowdhry called Asaf a “SoooperStar” and a “SaleeBretty” I guess he must be Asaf’s Chacha, Mama or Phuppa to support him blindly. He was the one who pressurized and persuaded the PCB officials to go to Dubai. And he was the one who asked the higher authorities at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to intervene in Asaf’s case and get him out of Dubai. Now, lets see if his “Paanja, Pateeja” gets another pardon?

    theossa, I have read that piece on cricinfo about the loop hole in the rules that his name leaked out before the sample B test is concluded. Yes my friend they are always looking for some kinda holes to get in or out. But, this I think must be a blackhole in Asaf’s universe and he will never be able to get out of it.

  3. #3 by Awas on July 15, 2008 - 5:22 PM

    It’s an interesting thread and very timely.

    Usually, for most people it’s a case of once bitten twice shy. Having had a lucky escape last time, there is no one else to blame except he himself. If despite that Asif continued to indulge in whatever then I think it’s a case of being incredibly stupid.

    I like the Board’s stance that they are not going to help him and he is being left to fight for himself this time.

    I read an interesting comment on a previous thread on Pakspin by one blogger who said this:

    “There are so many bad and match fixer mafias in these countries who can use girls to put some ban drugs mixed with sweet in your can of soda, glass of juice or more easy to mix things in glass of beer and wine“

    Interesting thought…so if Asif had any sense, he could have said “I was offered a drink by a bombshell in the club that night which I couldn’t refuse, it might have been laced with a contraband” ;)-

    Whatever his excuse, there is no likelihood of an escape for him now.

  4. #4 by Mohammed Munir on July 15, 2008 - 10:41 PM

    I heard that Mohammed Yousuf has also shown his unavailibility for the Champion Trophey, as it will be in Ramzan and he don’t want to miss his “Roza” Fastings.

    I agree it sure is a personal and religious matter, but then again …….

    How long will this free fall of our cricket continue ?

    Is there an end to it ?

  5. #5 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 16, 2008 - 4:32 AM

    Yes Awas

    Some JudgeBatty Pakistani guys on Pakspin are blaming everyone BUT Asaf. Even the first comment is so funny where the guy thinks that Indian Secret Service may have done something at the Dubai Airport because 95% of the people who work at the Dubai airport are Indians.

    The so-called Indian employees hired by DNATA at the Dubai airport don’t do customs and immigrations, its done only by the UAE nationals only. And, why would they frame Asif? By his stupid analogy if the Indian Secret Service has such a stronghold at the Dubai airport that they framed him, then the Pakistani clout is even much stronger than the Indians in Dubai to get that druggie out from there without being punished.

    And for those who think that DNA or the PCB is protecting Asif, are wrong because, they are just like pawns in that game. There are ministers and this Paindoo Senator whose picture is right on top of this thread, he openly declared Asaf as a superstar and insisted that he must not be left in Dubai just like that, hence they got him out. And what can DNA do to keep the players away from doing drugs? Put a leash on every player 24/7 or, keep them in a cage? (seems like the dawg ws without a leash up till now and he just borrowed the leash from here to use it on other blog)

    Asif is an adult and he is not in diapers to be taken care of all the time. On one side his fans call him a great bowler, a schemer, a planner and a strategist who is so canny and intelligent that he can set up a player like Tendulkar and Sangakara to commit a mistake and get them out. On the other they claim he is innocent. He is a dimwit dolt who keeps hakeemi majoons in his wallets and doesn’t know what it is.

    Talking about Aamer Sohail like I said before he should keep his trap shut, because himself he is a big blabber mouth, we all know how arrogant he was and how he blabbed to the media about betting scandals against Wasim Akram and then chickened out in front of Justice Qayyum.

    We also know about Majid Khan and his arrogance, he is now venting his anger because his son Bazid Khan is not getting “enough chances.” Awas, about his game, I did not see him play live but I saw some of his innings on TV in the golden greats programme. I am not sure if that century before lunch was against Australia, I think it was against New Zealand at Karachi. I saw a video of one of the matches he played in Australia in which Pakistan won there for the first time on Australian soil and Lillee was bowling wide balls, and Majid was batting, he pulled out the stumps from the ground and tried to fix them 2 meters away, indicating – since the balls are going here – let me fix the stumps here!

    Right now, seeing DNA’s weak situation, ALL the incompetent ex-cricketers are eying for the top post at the PCB and wants to ouster DNA. Wasim Akram with his interview on cricinfo has influenced the selectors to include Aamer the 16 year old fast bowler.

    Like someone said, give DNA sometime to breathe, he is a human being not a magician to transform the mess and chaos into something wonderful and ideal. Asif’s repeated offense is not a tragedy its a reality and he deserves a life ban.

    Finally MALAK SAAB has been renamed as captain for the CT ab sub ki CT bund. As it is the team’s morale is down and now with Ramadan its going to make life difficult for those who fast and play. They should take a fatwa from Asaf Zardari and skip fasting for those days when they have a match and catch up later in Shawwal. After all for some they have to put Rozy before Roza. I am not talking about Rozy the actress but Rozi like Rozgar or, employment.

  6. #6 by Q on July 16, 2008 - 6:32 AM

    He’s gone. His career is finished.

  7. #7 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 16, 2008 - 9:48 AM

    A cat has nine lives. So far Asif had 3 and he is hoping for a six or a double hatrick to be a cat. While he was in a disco he may have heard this famous song from: “Aristocats.”

    “Everybody wants to be a cat
    because a cat’s the only cat
    who knows where it’s at.”

    The second bit below is for theossa and his cat Natalie:

    While playin’ jazz you always has a welcome mat,
    ’cause everybody digs a swingin’ cat.
    Everybody digs a swingin’ cat.

    Asif’s supporters and fans are hoping for loop holes in the laws and even this time he will get away just like the Show-Actor is back in the 30 provisional squad. Since he made it into the 30, obviously he will make into the playing X1 also. Because, he is a big “D&D SoooperStar” (drugs & dramaybaaz)

    The Pakistani selection mafia (mainly the ministers and senators) and the public in general must understand that one rotten fish can ruin the whole pond. Sooner they get him out the better it is. If he wasn’t there, perhaps Asif may not have followed in his footsteps.

  8. #8 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 16, 2008 - 10:20 AM

    I hope Mr. M. Y. Kasim is fine and fit again to comment on this blog. He should be the one who could verify about Majid Khan’s century before lunch whether it was against Australia or New Zealand in Karachi? But, I do remember Lara’s test hundred before lunch in Multan in 2006. Other than these two perhaps Don Bradman is the only other batsman who has achieved this feat???

    Mr. Kasim, we all have prayed for your good health and speedy recovery and we want to welcome you back here on the blog ASAP.

  9. #9 by Jehanzeb Khan Niazi on July 16, 2008 - 10:50 AM

    Shoaib + Shoaib = two aibs which means two wrongs or two defects. The 30 provisional squad has both Shoaibs in it. The PCB has shown its firm stance in retaining m&m as captain and vice captain. But, bringing back Shoaib Aktar in the team is a bit odd, especially under the circumstances when the doping and drug scandal is on, Asif is on the grill and Akhtar himself not cleared by the authorities, bringing him back into the team may look like strengthening the pace attack on paper only. In reality its not going to make much difference because he is not match fit for the last so many years. Apart from that he is a bad influence in the team and he demoralizes the younger players.

    The ex-greats are criticizing the Pakistan Board for not helping Asif when he was in shallow waters a couple of years ago. And Asif himself is hoping to challenge the IPL authorities for leaking his name to the media before testing the B sample and his lawyer said in an interview that, “Asif was shocked at the development but was very confident that his name would be cleared. Asif is a talented bowler and wants to play for his country. He is confident that he will get out of this trouble and play again for the country.”

  10. #10 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 16, 2008 - 1:08 PM

    Jehanzeb

    I have also read those interviews by Zaheer Abbass, Ramiz Raja, Aamer Sohail, Wasim Akram etc., but what can the PCB do? Besides the PCB’s hands are tied. There is a new page on JAVED MIANDAD take a look on top right. Read his latest interview and my comments, you are welcome to comment on that page as well and you will see that I have quoted a URL of Sarfaraz Nawaz’s latest interview to Gulf News Dubai. This time he makes sense. Should I copy paste the URL here? There you go:

    http://archive.gulfnews.com/sport/Cricket/10228952.html

  11. #11 by Awas on July 16, 2008 - 5:51 PM

    Yeah, I have read this. Sarfaraz Nawaz often utters nonsense but this time he has been critical of the two miscreants. It’s true also what he said that these two are the type of bowlers who can run through a side, an ability which is currently lacking in other players. Current bowlers can take 2-3 wickets but cannot be expected to do more. Even Tanvir who has done ok once in awhile but not much can be expected regularly from him…not yet at least. Umar Gul though has been more consistent and has often been good in tests as well as shorter versions.

    Despite what Sarfaraz Nawaz has said, it’s better to invest in new comers and make example of the two idiots, Asif & Akhtar. Any come back of the two A&A’s will be detrimental for Pakistan’s cause in the long run as the youngsters will learn nothing.

    Even though Akhtar is in the probables, I doubt that he would make a cut for the final 11. As the court was on his side PCB had no option but to include him. He is looking so unfit and overweight to me that after a couple of overs he would be running back to the dressing room for a puff. Such behaviours from the two is very bad for the morale of the team. We better do without them.

    Having now looked at the stats guru, I believe you are right about that 100 in Karachi by Majid Khan. Probably, Mr Kasim can shed more light on a 100 before lunch.

    By the way, that senator looks such a picture perfect cool dude…are you kidding? With a picture like that he must have made his Amma proud ;)-

    Anyways, India/SL series is starting from Friday, I think. So let’s get back to some real action and enjoy a contest.

  12. #12 by Awas on July 16, 2008 - 9:01 PM

    Here are Razzaq’s views on Malik:

    Commenting on the current Pakistan team, Razzaq felt Shoaib Malik was the wrong choice as captain. Malik succeeded Inzamam-ul-Haq after Pakistan’s first-round exit from the 2007 World Cup. Pakistan have had mixed results in the period since, reaching the finals of the World Twenty20 but losing Test series to India and South Africa.

    “I think he (Malik) was given the captaincy too early. He may have made a good captain in the future but not right now. Or they could have made Malik the captain and kept more experienced players around like India have done. They would be there to advise, support, and help him settle into the role.”

  13. #13 by Rehan Khan on July 16, 2008 - 11:33 PM

    More disgrace for Pakistan cricket. When will it all end my friends?
    I dont get why the captain is not being blamed by anyone. People have gone as far as blaming Pervez Musharraf for this (who gets blamed even if there is a common burglary anywhere in the country) but why no one is pointing two fingers at kaptaan malik? Because we already accept him to be a spineless leader. Does it not indicate he should be replaced immediately then.

    What a big mess they have done now by retaining Malik as captain for Champions Trophy. the Captain’s job is to coach his players and bring them on line but I guess that is also PCB Chairman’s job? And I cant believe Geoff Lawson is getting away with cold blooded murder while the cricket team suffers.

    i pray for our team and hope some sense is injected into the PCB so they can remove malik and appoint Afridi as captain, this is long overdue now.

  14. #14 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 16, 2008 - 11:44 PM

    LOL @ Awas for that comment “With a picture like that he must have made his Amma proud ;)-” I am TOTALLY agree 🙂 Actually this must be the second time he must have made his Amma proud. The first time must be i.e., after he was made the Senator and, when he saw the SSC Board Exam results in the news paper, he must have ran to tell his Amma, ” Amma Vaikh mai hunni, MATRAC SAYKUND DIVISION PASS KITTA haiga …..”

    khansahab you are absolutely right on the undue criticism thats being flooded on DNA. Your points that you have highlighted are very valid, that is exactly what I have said earlier that DNA cannot put a leash on every single player 24/7 because they are adults and responsible people. If they act irresponsible and keep repeating the same mistakes again and again then they have to pay a price for that ch2yaapa.

    The ex-players who are criticizing DNA by calling him a bureaucrat and good for nothing because he is not a technocrat. I would like to ask these great ex-es what right do they have to call someone incompetent? Just by playing cricket you can’t become a great entrepreneur, manager or an administrator. All these ex-players except for Imran Khan, Ramiz Raja, Majid Khan and perhaps Saeed Anwar, the rest are all insufficiently educated and some are total duds, just like that Senator.

    There is nothing wrong if they are not highly educated because, according to them they didn’t get a chance to study at college or university. But, just because you were a good player does not qualify you to be a good manager or a good administrator. Those physical skills are different from mental skills and whatever mental skills they may have had and used it in the game like, Miandad or Inzi for example, its all related to the game and not in running and managing a multi-million dollar organization.

    If all these Lulloo, Punjooz and Paindoos try run a multi-million dollar organization, just because they see $$$$$$ and hope to milk them by hook or by crook then, for them Ibne-Insha has written this famous expression, “Har shaaq pay ullu baitahaa hai anjaam-e-gulistaan kya hoga?”

    If by their analogy the PCB can only be run and managed successfully by people who have played test, ODI or T20 cricket at international level then they should also be made CEO’s and COO’s of the blue chip organizations and even be made the Presidents and Prime Ministers. I am sure they know that they won’t get the job of an office boy who makes chai. What a load of cow-manure especially when it is coming from the likes of Aamer Churail and Saleem Altaf etc. If the PCB needs help from them in technical matters then the PCB should hire them.

    Saleem Altaf when he was in power, he fired Waqar Younus while he was away on Hajj, by saying he did not inform him where he is going and reportedly he was absconding? Actually, he was on Hajj with the Captain of the team then, Inzamam ul Haq, Moulvi Mushtaq, Saeed Anwar and may be Mohammad Yousuf. But, Waqar’s only problem was he did not go to touch Altaf’s feet and got his blessing before proceeding on Hajj. Btw, Saleem Altaf is a former test player, a pathetic mediocre medium pacer and nothing more than a sifarshi tuttoo.

    I am not in favour of hiring foreign coaches and I have been saying this when Bob Woolmer was appointed, at the same time I am totally against the former players getting the top position in the PCB ….. management is not their forte and they should know that, there are a few people who are make doers and there are some who are doers In Urdu, they are called: Kaarkun and Kaarfarma – the later are the make doers and these ex-cricket players who do not qualify for those jobs are the Karkuns or doers.

    Similarly in India, instead of Lalit Modi coming up with the idea of the IPL or Sharad Powar and Niranjan Sharma, people like Harbhajan Singh, Sreesanth and Munna Bhai Patel would have been the Commissioner of the IPL, Chairman and CEO of the BCCI. You bet they can’t even manage a gully or mohalla team. So, why do ex-es in Pakistan think that they can do better than DNA? After all DNA’s qualifications and achievements are unmatched and incomparable with these dimwit dolts who call themselves as T.E.C.H.N.O.C.R.A.T.S.

  15. #15 by Imran on July 17, 2008 - 1:28 PM

    I don’t understand why you guys are bashing the Choudhrys on your blog? Punjab is the biggest and most populous province of Pakistan therefore, the participation of the players in the national team is also according to that ratio. Besides the best fast bowlers of Pakistan have been produced by Punjab. Whether you guys agree or not, appreciate of not Punjab deserves the recognition as well as appreciation in producing the best players Pakistan has ever produced. Therefore, my suggestion to you guys is to be a little more practical and pragmatic in your comments.

  16. #16 by Zain on July 17, 2008 - 2:09 PM

    Imran

    I don’t think it is a matter of population and size, what you really need to focus on is, ‘talent’ and that is not supposed to be based on regionalism or provincialism. If that is the case then you must have a quota system and allocate the number of players for each province, in that case Baluchistan also qualifies and they produce almost zero cricket players or you can say none whatsoever. Whoever represents Baluchistan in domestic matches are the players from Karachi who don’t get a chance to play for Karachi or Sindh.

    As regards making fun of Chaudhrys and Wadheras, if you don’t know the background it may appear like that, but those who know the background of this particular Chaudhry Zafar Iqbal, the Senator of Pakistan it is understandable and applauding for those who make fun of him. Because of the way he tried to protect Asif from the punishment he deserved by calling him “A Superstar” and at any cost he should not be left in Dubai for punishment and we must bring him back.

    It is known to everyone that using his clout the Senator made all out efforts through the diplomatic channel in getting Asif out of Dubai. If you keep on doing this to support a druggie, then you will also be ridiculed, hence the Senator is not spared, don’t we all talk about democracy? Then what is wrong in picking up a Senator who is making a fool out of himself as well as that of the country? The actions taken by the senators, the congressmen and the government officials represents the whole nation and people from other countries think that the whole nation is like that.

    Previously Asif Zardari and Interior Ministry Advisor Rehman Malik got Shoaib Akhtar to play for the IPL even against the ruling of the court and the Board, it goes to show how this mafia of Chaudhrys and Wadheras in Pakistan is flourishing, controlling and interfering even in the game of cricket which is not their forte, in fact it is none of their business to poke their nose in it.

    Has Chaudhry Zafar Iqbal ever said any word of praise for Javed Miandad? Or, has he ever asked anyone why Asim Kamal has not been included in the team? People say that Shoaib Malik is in the team as a captain because of his uncle who is a Senator or an Adviser in the government, could it be Senator Zafar Iqbal Chaudhry or Rehman Malik?

    I know that the fast bowlers are from Punjab but, this doesn’t mean other provinces cannot produce good cricketers. If physical strength is the main thing that Punjab players possess, then NWFP is also producing some good fast bowlers only Umar Gul has got the chance to prove his mettle and the rookie Sohail Khan is kept at bay because there are other new fast bowlers from Punjab who must get a chance to play ahead of him. Wahab Riaz after he was bashed by the Indian team for almost 90 runs in his 9 overs was selected again. If you keep giving a chance to such players then obviously others get disheartened and discouraged.

    There is a general notion in Karachi that no matter how express or fast you may bowl, a Karachi fast bowler will never get a chance in the national side. Mohammad Sami was express fast but he is not as effective as Waqar and Wasim. But, for that matter Shoaib Akhtar is also not as effective as Waqar and Wasim.

    The present Pakistani team is going through such crisis that it never faced since the inception of Pakistan and that is because of the culture that is so sickening and like someone said the Board is just a puppet or a front office for show, the real drivers are these people in the government who promote nepotism, regionalism and provincialism. Until and unless the Board is free and totally independent, the selection committee is free and independent there won’t be any progress in cricket in Pakistan. There will be mediocre players and mediocre cricket and this current Pakistan team is a mediocre team. My suggestion is “keep cricket free from politics.”

  17. #17 by theossa on July 17, 2008 - 2:19 PM

    Man I still hate this Saleem Altaf guy for firing Waqar Younis as bowling coach. Isn’t he the best test bowler we ever produced? He has a phenomenal average of 5 wickets per game, a master of in-dippers and in-swinging yorkers. Who could better coach bowlers than him? And no shit, I like Waqaa’s commentary too, he is hilarious but intelligent as well.

    Awas, “I am agree”, this senator is kick ass. I showed the picture of Senator Zafar Iqbal Choudhary to one my female co-worker and she thinks he is hot like Senator Barack Obama. She compared him to the guy in the “Office Space” movie guy whose table was moved around a lot and he eventually set the office building on fire. Do you guys remember him? He must be a clone copy of Mr. Choudhary. Hahahaha.

    Munir my Gemini mate, are you back? Or still screwing around in Turkey? LOL. Did you get me any “Turkish Delights”?

    Khansahab, to cherta kuna werke nin saba? Dera muda ushwa khkare na. Javed can translate it in a nice way

  18. #18 by theossa on July 17, 2008 - 2:27 PM

    Reading Imran’s and Zain’s comments are like reading Allama Iqbal’s “Shikwa” and “Jawab-e-Shikwa” again. Zain you hit the nail here, good thoughtful comments.

  19. #19 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 17, 2008 - 3:07 PM

    theossa

    On Shikwa and Jawab Shikwa all I have to say is:

    Naalay Bull Bull kay sunoon
    Natalie say huma tun gosh rahoon 😉

    I think Munir is departing on 19th for 10 days, besides he will have no time for any kinda Turkish Delights because his bitter half would be tying a leash on him.

    Imran

    if that Chaudhry comments are hurting your sentiments then on behalf of LS I would like to apologize you personally.

    Zain

    You have said it very well, no one could have said it better than you. Its a very fair reply to that Shikwa like theossa said, it was a befitting Jawab Shikwa.

    About Waqar Younus, I think he is more open and more sincere than Wasim Akram is. Wasim was a good shrewed bowler but, its rather unfortunate for Pakistan that he is not a trustworthy individual. Not only his past but, his every single move is very calculated and his comments are very sinister and he is not a fair person at all. And when it comes to money not only he puts his mouth where the money is but, he is like “Che tsanga plaar hamaghasey zoyee.”

  20. #20 by theossa on July 17, 2008 - 5:45 PM

    Javed, LOL, it’s more like

    Gale bulbul se milonn
    Natalie ke bhe aaghoosh rahon

    Yeah, I agree this Wasim guy is a shady one. I wouldn’t trust him either but man was he talented in cricket!

    Hey, what’s up with the Pak Spin? Seems like I’m black listed along with you. Khansahab and Awas were allowed to post there. Funny thing is they allowed that crazy post about Indian secret service but not ours which could oppose but fair. I didn’t even bother to read the posts, screw them, I’m done.

  21. #21 by KungFuShus on July 17, 2008 - 6:15 PM

    Folks, here is my new official nick name which was given by Javed. I hope this does not mean anything funny in French:)

  22. #22 by M. Y. Kasim. Houston. Tx. on July 17, 2008 - 6:59 PM

    Hi all,

    I just came back from the Hospital last evening, July the 16th. and am in a lot of pain and heavily sedated. I just want to thank you all for your prayers and well-wishes for me.

  23. #23 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 17, 2008 - 7:03 PM

    theossa

    KungFuShus is phonetics of Confucius so no hidden meaning in French. Its not like Tabarnak et Callis 🙂

    Yeah, Wasim Akram was a great bowler but he is one of those people like Rahat Kazmi who would disappoint you if you see them in real.

    As regards PakSpin, I think Kamran Abbassi has taken my previous comment to heart when I wrote a few days ago that PakSpin became famous because of me. Actually there are so many guys who have confided in me by saying we used to visit PakSpin mainly because of you. One guy said, the first thing I used to do is open PakSpin page and find out the comments made by Javed A. Khan Montreal, Canada and read his comments and may be one or two more (of other regulars) and never bothered to read anybody else’s comments.

    The truth is even Kamran never reads the comments of Tom, Dick and Harry and he used to read comments of a few regulars, thats why you see so many idiots blabbing so much filth and their comments are there uncensored, they only read the comments of important people like you and me 😉 Take care.

  24. #24 by khansahab on July 17, 2008 - 10:49 PM

    Imran

    Firstly welcome to LS, and thanks for pouring your heart out.

    I would also like to personally apologise to you and all other people who may feel we go over the top in our criticism of regionalism in Pakistan. Our policy is not to spread a negative agenda against Punjab. We want to educate and enlighten our reader base as to why we think the team and the country is in such dire a state. We believe in calling a spade, a spade however we are all mature enough to understand that different people have different opinions about the same issues. Today you have presented a different opinion about one issue, which we have encouraged and respected.

    Mind you, Awas is a pure Punjabi and he is proud of his Punjabi roots. But he understands that we are not biased and do not hold any unreasonable grudges. That is because he is mature and tolerant. So we would encourage all our readers to adopt maturity and tolerance, because we actually cater to the mature and tolerant audience. This is why we focus extensively on India as well and have made some good Indian friends. There is a lot of mutual respect and love for each other between Pakistanis and Indians on Legslip, which is another reason why this blog differs to all other cricket blogs.

    Zain

    You gave a very hard hitting and judicious account of the state of cricket in Pakistan. Thanks for visiting LS and supporting us.

  25. #25 by khansahab on July 17, 2008 - 10:52 PM

    Where is Hamza these days? Hamza I am sorry if you felt I have been biased against Punjab, however I can assure you no one here is biased. We are all tolerant and mature people and you are a valued member of Legslip.

  26. #26 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 18, 2008 - 12:16 AM

    According to an information from Dubai, the banned substance which was recovered from Asif’s wallet is reportedly to be CHARAS and Asif kept changing the stories that he is not aware of how it came into his wallet, and then he said its some Hakeemi Majoon, then he said it is Salajeet (aphrodisiac) and again he showed his surprise by saying I don’t know how it came into my wallet?

    The conspiracy theories that Indian workers on DNATA or Dubai airport or the Indian Secret Service must have planted it to frame him. They must be magicians to do that. If they wanted they would have done it at New Delhi airport when he first arrived to play for the IPL why waste so much time and effort?

    I am not sure if anyone noticed his facial expressions have changed he does look like a druggie who is lost somewhere!

    The latest news is:

    Mohammad Yousuf says; “Losing Asia Cup is no biggy. ”
    Read his comments:
    http://www.dawn.com/2008/07/17/spt5.htm

    Malak Saab says: Pakistan safest country on earth to play Kirrkat. Read his comments.
    http://www.dawn.com/2008/07/17/spt7.htm

    Row – oon Jigar ko
    Kay pakroon sir ko mai?

    Sir uthaya thaa kay Sang yaad aaya!

  27. #27 by hamza on July 18, 2008 - 9:39 AM

    Khansahab

    no you have never offended me, dont think like that. i have been very busy, in fact these days i am travelling a lot. i do read your blog everyday and i think you, javed a khan and awas are fantastic writers.
    we all need to be a little more considerable how others might feel, this is what makes us educated and mature people. and i can see all of you do it.

    asif has been a disgrace definitely, no doubt about it. i wonder who will be selected in the final squad for champions trophy?

    OK i will write more later

  28. #28 by Awas on July 18, 2008 - 5:20 PM

    Earlier, I copied a comment from someone mentioning about the match fixing mafias. It wasn’t outright disdainful but was a bit ludicrous in the context of what Asif had been up to lately.

    This time I have just read what EAMiran has written on Pakspin. Whatever our viewpoint or EAMiran’s for that matter but what he said here is quite different and I can’t help appreciate what he has said as it is all very rational and logical. Here it is:

    “Before labelling Asif a drug cheat, shouldn’t we wait to hear what substances were found in the urine sample? If it happens to be a recreational drug, such as purportedly found on his person at Dubai airport then he is not a drug cheat. The logic posted by many that that all athletes using mind altering drugs are somehow cheats and should be banned, should also include those who smoke tobacco and drink alcohol. Both these substances, although legal, are mind altering and known to be dangerous. If such a ban was enforced I suggest that forming an Int’l XI might become impossible.

    If on the other hand it is found to be a steroid than one may call him whatever one wishes. Personally I believe steroids should be legalized as they allow athletes to recover from injuries, thereby prolonging their otherwise short careers. Either way, this does not take away from the fact that Asif’s judgement, at best, has been extremely poor. And that, I am afraid, is putting it rather mildly”.

  29. #29 by khansahab on July 18, 2008 - 9:48 PM

    Awas

    Yes Eamiran writes well and appears educated. We have often asked him to join us here on LS. I am sure he knows about us and reads our blog, but perhaps he is upset by some of our opinions on Pakistani society. One of the most praiseworthy traits of LS is that, difference of opinion is tolerated. I believe Eamiran will make a fantastic addition to our “one big family”. The ball is in his court now.

    Same goes to Rauf and Ashaq.

  30. #30 by Awas on July 19, 2008 - 8:22 AM

    As I said earlier, even though Shoaib Akhtar is in the probables, I doubt that he would make a cut for the final 11 because of his fitness.

    Here is what I just read on Cricinfo:

    Shoaib Akhtar has been left out of a eight-day training camp at the Army School of Physical Training in Kakul beginning on July 21 after the Pakistan Cricket Board expressed concern over his fitness.

    “We feared he might break down as it will be a strenuous training camp,” said Shafqat Naghmi.

  31. #31 by Raaj ansari on July 31, 2012 - 7:03 AM

    exellent mr.Zaffar sir jee.

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