ADDING METHOD TO MADNESS……………

The Nawab of Najafgarh

“Adding method to madness” is a phrase that cannot suit anyone more aptly than Virender Sehwag. When Sehwag burst on to the international scene in 2001, no one could expect he would reach such enviable heights. Method to madness in cricketing terms means, for those who may be unsure, playing with a lot of aggression but also assessing the situation well and keeping mind over matter. Only a very few batsmen in the world have been able to be very aggressive and dominating insofar having a phenomenal strike rate but also making plenty of runs and winning their teams plenty of matches. A few names come to mind such as Viv Richards or Adam Gilchrist, but none of them have added method to madness in such a way as Sehwag has done.

In Tests Sehwag averages 53 with 15 centuries and 14 fifties. His strike rate of 77 is excellent for Tests. In ODI’s he averages 32 but with 9 centuries and 29 fifties and an amazing strike rate of 99. Sehwag’s true value to the Indian team cannot be expressed without detailing his records:

1)He is only the 3rd batsman (the other 2 being Bradman and Lara) to have scored 300 twice in a Test innings.

2)He has scored 5 double hundreds in Test cricket, only behind Miandad, Sangakkara and Atapattu(6), W Hammond(7), Lara(9) and Bradman(12). He is 29 currently and has a long batting career ahead of him, fitness permitting.

3)He has scored the fastest triple century in international cricket (off 278 balls)

An amazing talent

An amazing talent

Sehwag’s 201 (not out) in the first innings of the 2nd Test between India and Sri Lanka epitomised his significance to the team. This was not the first time when Sehwag has dominated a bowling attack whereas most of the other Indian batsmen have failed at the same time. The secret behind Sehwag’s greatness is immense raw talent in the form of excellent hand-eye coordination. Few players in world cricket are as good as Sehwag when it comes to picking up the line and length of the delivery and creating a stroke. Most people will not compare Sehwag with greats like Bradman, Lara and Inzamam who have scored triple centuries and they will not place him in the same category, perhaps rightly so. However what Sehwag has achieved which these greats did not, is the pace at which he has scored those triple centuries. Whereas the hallmark of the triple centuries scored by Bradman and Lara is patience and stamina, the distinguishing feature of Sehwag’s mega-tons has been complete domination and aggressiveness and a refusal to succumb to any type of pressure.

Yet Sehwag is not without his criticisms. He has been accused of being too reckless and of not acknowledging the enormous responsibility on his shoulders. Verily, Sehwag’s ODI average of 32 does not do justice to his boundless talent. His technique is not without risks, but even his most passionate fans agree he can do better. Sehwag has also been accused of not doing enough to remedy some technical deficiencies such as poor strokeplay when he gets cramped for room.

Nevertheless, Sehwag stands as something of a red herring. Perhaps unfulfilled potential too in some cases, some might say. His triple centuries, his free flowing style of batting and the Indian team’s increasing dependence of him make him appear as good as any Tendulkar’s or Lara’s of this world. Yet there have been stages in his career where he has been a dispensable prospect and the Indian team has almost benefited from his omission. As long as he is consistent (and to be fair to him, he has been reasonably consistent for most of his career which is indicated by his very impressive Test average and decent ODI average) he will be a regular in the side and will win India many matches.

Hence to conclude, Sehwag had added a new dimension to the art of batting in modern cricket. By adding this method to madness he has become a run making machine, a truly formidable opponent to any opposition and a consistent match winner for India. Perhaps the most potent indication of Sehwag’s greatness is and will be, that most coaches 10 years down the line will probably instruct their students to bat like Virender Sehwag, where batting is all about scoring runs very quickly but with also a lot of control and precision. This seems especially true with the changing nature of international cricket which is now very quickly becoming a game for aggressive batsmen, and batsmen who take their time to settle down such as Rahul Dravid are unlikely to be successful in such situations in the long run.

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  1. #1 by Adnan Naqvi on August 3, 2008 - 11:56 PM

    i want talk about pakistan team. this is the first time i am speak on this website and congratulations. basicly in our team their is no merrit in selection. karachi player from poor background is ignore. why this happen, because we have huge punjab lobby. in country their is discrimination so their gonna be discrimination in the team. i walk on streets of nazimabad, karachi, and i see many talanted boy who can become great player for pakistan. but who select them? actualy there is lobby who only want punjabi people in team. i think so this should be line up of our team:

    khurram manzoor
    khalid latif
    naumanullah
    shahid afridi
    fawad alam
    sarfraz ahmed
    rizwan ahmed
    anwar ali
    tahir khan
    danish kaneria
    sohail khan

    this line up can bring world cup to pakistan. stop discrimination against karachi player. please publish my coment to PCB can read. thank you.

    Adnan from Karachi

  2. #2 by khansahab on August 4, 2008 - 8:44 AM

    Adnan Naqvi

    Welcome to LS.

    Adnan, I beg to differ from your views because you are asking for a Karachi XI to represent Pakistan. What we want is a system where players represent all four corners of Pakistan and there are no barriers to their selection in the playing XI. That is something we advocate on LS; however what we don’t want is our biases taking precedence so we can have a Punjab XI or Karachi XI to represent the country.

    I feel sympathetic if you feel there is discrimination against Karachiites. This may well be true. Every minority is discriminated against in every country, whether it is a religious minority or ethnic minority. We often discuss regionalism here on LS, however we want to do our part in raising and awareness and eliminating this evil. Do you think asking for a Karachi XI is an answer to the problem the Pakistan team is having? I don’t think it is appropriate to fight bias with bias. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

    Pakistan has had many great non Punjabi players such as Hanif Mohammad, Asif Iqbal, Miandad, Rashid Latif, Shahid Afridi and Younis Khan. All of these players had some skill or attribute that ensured their consistent selection. Hanif and Miandad had raw talent and plenty of patience and tenacity. I have not seen Miandad play but he must have been very good to have played consistently for such a long time. Asif Iqbal was educated and charismatic. Rashid Latif again was educated and in terms of keeping was amongst the best the world has ever seen. Afridi is multi talented and has an inspiring personality, whereas Younis has always performed and ensured his place in the side is kept whenever there have been some doubts about his calibre. He is also a good motivator and generally is a cheerful person.

    If Karachi players adopt some of these attributes which these greats have adopted I am sure they will be selected more frequently. I know in the case of some one like Asim Kamal, who was an amazing talent, you can have doubts as to why he was not selected more often and similarly I also have doubts over why someone like Fawad Alam, who has brilliant statistics in domestic cricket, is not given more opportunities (here I think Malik is largely to be blamed). In Asim’s case there were two reasons (there might be more) which I think worked against him:

    1) Afridi was chosen for a few Tests to bat at no 6 instead of Asim. Younis, Yousuf and Inzamam were batting on no 3, 4 and 5 respectively so naturally Asim would bat at no 6. Afridi was selected because his bowling was said to be improving and he was batting more confidently in the nets.

    2) Selectors use domestic performance as a pretext to include someone in a given squad. Asim’s domestic performance waned and after he was chosen to play for the national team, he never managed to perform consistently in domestic games. So that did not give selectors an incentive to choose him. In Pakistan either you need to have sifarish to get selected and because Asim did not have any sifarish, his performance in the domestic games was the only factor the selectors could take into account. It is really sad when you think of these reasons against the fact that Asim was very consistent in the 10 or so innings he played for Pakistan and he also rescued the team from difficult situations on a few occasions.

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  4. #4 by Rohit on August 4, 2008 - 12:06 PM

    quite a balanced article……..yes sehwag is a true match winner who on his day is better than the best batsman. his problem in inconsistency and shoddy technique but the good things about his batting outweigh the bad things. i think you make a very good point about the value of sehwag to india, whenever he scores big the team seems to win.
    when he was dropped that did wonders for his temperament because now he knows if he does not perform he will be kicked out. that is the way you should treat any player despite whatever his level of seniority is. i think sehwag was vice captain when he was kicked out. whenever the BCCI has been harsh on a player, the player has returned in very good form. same thing happened with ganguly a couple of years ago. also gautam gambhir was not a regular and he was dropped, now he is in form and very confident.
    i visited your videos page, its quite good. that song in tendulkar’s video, who sang it? i cant get that tune out of my head 🙂 what a tune. wasim and waqar’s videos are also really cool. and that drunk commentator is hilarious man, who is he??? i think he is speaking from pakistan’s perspective so seems like a pakistani.

    about the 2nd test- good tit for tat shown by india. now they must not be complacent and they must attack sri lanka the same way as they did in the 2nd test. a margin of 170 runs isnt a great margin of victory but still its a good confidence booster and psychological edge.

  5. #5 by khansahab on August 4, 2008 - 12:59 PM

    Rohit

    I also liked that song, it’s called “I get knocked down” and the band that has sung it is called “Chumbawamba”.

    That commentator is Mushtaq Mohammad I think, but I’m not sure.

    Yeah PCB should also follow BCCI and drop players on a temporary basis. But PCB has so much sifarish culture and corruption and there are so many groupings and mafias, it’s really difficult to drop senior players.

    At the moment I think they should drop everyone except Afridi because they need a dynamic and brave captain. Yousuf is good but fitness is not on his side and Younis is good but he needs to bat lower down the order. Misbah is a good player but we have discussed this so many times, at the moment the team can’t do with so many specialist batsmen because the bowling becomes weak.

  6. #6 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 4, 2008 - 1:04 PM

    As kids we all must have read Lewis Carroll’s Alice in Wonderland and the character of “Mad hatter” must have amused us and then reading, khansahab’s “Adding Method To Madness,” has given another dimension to that world.

    When I was watching the 2nd test at Galle, to me it wasn’t just Carroll on my mind but it was Thomas Hardy’s, ” Far from the “Madding Crowd.” People love crazy hitters, but this floppy hat hard hitter was hitting the ball “with sanity and harmony and remained in total control of the game.” Yes, he is the other floppy hatter who won the 2nd test for India singlehandedly and that is, Virender Sehwag and everyone knows him.

    The other character who also wears a floppy hat is Harbhajan Singh and his madness is different, I think no one other than Sreesanth knows it better. 🙂 He too “Mended” the SL batting in his own style and took 10 wickets.

    I think dedicating this thread to Veeru is justified and he has proved his critics wrong that he is only a one day player and his 308 against Pakistan in Multan was a one time trick pony show. He scored another triple century against SA to join the exclusive league of 3 players now who have scored triple centuries twice. Earlier his big test century against Australia in Australia was one of his career best.

    The good thing about Sehwag is his centuries are BIG and he seldom looses his concentration and keeps aiming high, that is why when he is on 96 or 196 he dispatches the ball high for a six. He does have the cool and calm personality like that of Inzamam and the added advantage that he has is not as big and not as lazy as Inzamam hence he can move faster between the wickets.

    The victory in the second test was also due to the fact that, Ishand and Zaheer, the two Indian fast bowlers bowled their hearts out in the second innings. Especially Ishant showed his brilliance that he demonstrated against Ricky Ponting in Australia and from the first over he and Zaheer dominated the SL batsmen.

    The latest article on cricinfo by Jamie Alter in which the opening sentence is this: “Ishant Sharma is running on ubuntu. For the uninitiated, ubuntu, in the African Bantu language, stresses collective success over individual achievements. “ I recommend you guys to read the whole article, its good. So, here is the link for it:

    http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/slvind/content/current/story/363532.html

    more later.

  7. #7 by Amit. P on August 4, 2008 - 1:29 PM

    First about the win …. this win is special in a sense that it was manufactured on some out of box personal performances ….. Sehwag single handedly took the responsibility of whole batting and only gambhir contribution was significant in that light .. .same with bowling … bhajji somehow managed to pick wickets in bulk and ishant aptly supported him (infact he was leading in second inning). Apart from these 4 guys, everybody faired below par …. and winning test matches on individual performances is something very special. IMO india still have to do lots of things to think ab’t winning this series. Their problems are still not solved. Middle order still does not look convincing after playing 4 innings …. bowling still is not effective. In the last inning when india reduced SL to 10/3 then u expect fast bowlers to be more aggressive and on the mark …. but somehow they were quite inconsistent in both line and length. Length inconsistency is somewhat acceptable but how can one bowl downside leg or on middle stump when both batsmen are new and in immense pressure. That was sheer crime. I reckon, the second spell of ishant was quite good … had he bowled like that with new ball, he wud have taken 5 for easily. Now the big worry for india is our captain himself …. he seems to trouble only tail-enders now. He got to sort these things out. And yeah .. karthik shud be replaced …. he is totally out of sort … and looks like begging to be dropped. Someone plz do mercy upon him.

  8. #8 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 5, 2008 - 12:35 PM

    Amit

    you are right that an individual can win a match singlehandedly but he cannot repeat his encore therefore, cricket is a team game and all players need to perform to win consistently. Like Sehwag, Gambhir and then Bhajji and Ishant they all need to click and its about time to do that in the 3rd test.

    Dravid has been unlucky in the first two tests I wonder if they think of axing him? But, neither Laxman, Ganguly or Tendulkar have scored so far. And you are right about Kumble’s role, he doesn’t fit in the time with this kinda bowling. Shouldn’t he declare himself unfit and give another player a chance? I am not sure if he will think of Ohja? If he is Humble then the should. Lets see.

    Where is pawan and theossa? I hope Munir is back? I am a little busy these days for the next 3- 4 days but, I am reading your comments so please keep posting them. Whenever time and situation permits, I will write. I know Awas is very, very busy.

  9. #9 by khansahab on August 5, 2008 - 1:16 PM

    An inquiry panel looking into the drug charges against Asif has reached the result that the charges were conclusive. This means Asif was definitely holding drugs in Dubai.

    We must again praise Javed A Khan for his conviction that something was very fishy about Asif’s behaviour. Asif will now be banned for a few matches. He should get a life ban though.

  10. #10 by Ali Ahad on August 5, 2008 - 4:16 PM

    This is my first post and good to see a blog like this one. It was a good test match. Good to see indian team levelling the series. About Viru, whenever we saw an innings like that we all start saying that he is best batsman in the world and start comparing him with greats. For me a good batsman is someone who can handle pressure well, like some one who carry the innings for example if the team is 6 or 7 down and one batsman work around with the tail enders and get the team to a respectable score. Inzy, Lara, Sachin and Waugh has done that many times and I think that is a sign of a great. Yes, he has good record in test and his average is great but he doesn’t that class which the great’s ususally possess. Like Boycott says Viru is an amazing talent no doubt about that but he has no brains.

    The big three is not clicking but it only requires one good innings. I am sure the wicket for the last match will definately spin and M&M will come in real handy. Lastly, I havent’t seen that intensity from Jumbo as a captain that he used to shown as a bowler.

  11. #11 by Amit. P on August 5, 2008 - 6:39 PM

    Ali,

    I think Bouycott over-reacted like we fans do, when he said he has no brains ….. my reaction at that dismissal was something like .. “proper chuti** hai” … but he got his own method as this thread is highlighting by putting some numbers here … and believe me cricket is the game in which u can conclude many things just by looking at numbers. No player in the history of cricket has got this much consistency ( i m talking test matches here ) without brains and he too is no exception. His recent 151 in auss will show u that how much brain he applies during batting. He usually starts with a bang (this is the time he is highly vulnerable to throw away his wicket), but as his inning progresses his determination starts multiplying and selection of stroke-play is something to watch. His earlier high scores were very one-dimensional like 300 in multan … it was on simple logic as he usually says .. ” if there is ball to hit i will hit” … But later he starts believing that he is an integral part of test squad (considerable amount of credit goes to sachin). His recent 300 against SA wasn’t one-dimensional at all. Here is good article dealing with his method behind that inning.

    http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/indvrsa/content/story/344347.html

    His contribution to indian cricket is very much significant.

    Having said that he is still mediocre in odis … and it is quite surprising and frustrating that being excelled in higher level of the game he is no way near in shorter version. Even in his slump time, when he looked like any fast bowler’s easy meal, many believed that he shudn’t be dropped from test squad. But that worked well for him and to indian cricket …. and now he seems to reconfigure his odi game as well. If he does, then he shud first thank vengsarkar, who took that bold decision to drop him from all formats of the game.

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  13. #13 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 6, 2008 - 4:47 AM

    Ali Ahad

    Boycott is one of my favourite commentators along with Michael Holding. However, when he says Sehwag has no brains is his Yorkshire accent doesn’t really mean that Sehwag is a dimwit dolt. I reckon he was not too critical but those comments were more in praise for his hitting sixes on 94 and 194. Amit has explained very well how Sehwag adjusts his batting style when his innings progresses. Yes, there is sporadic madness in the beginning and then he steadies his innings in the middle and again when he is approaching milestones he wants to get over with it soon. I heard him saying that during an interview that he doesn’t like being bogged down in the nineties.

    When people are comparing Sehwag with Sachin, Lara and Inzi, what they don’t realize is, he still has a good number of years of cricket left in him and he is already averaging 50 plus in test cricket which is very good. Whereas, two of those three great players have already retired and Sachin is playing because of his reputation. There is no doubt that the little master is head and shoulders above the rest in terms of centuries, runs and average. No one can be sure when he will retire. But, by the time Sehwag retires he too will be in the league of big scores and he will be remembered for a different angle i.e., for his hard hitting and at the same time for his madness and coolness, both.

    I also agree with Amit that his second triple ton against SA was very different from the first one. I saw them both on TV live and I reckon in the Multan test he got 5 lives. So, what? Everyone gets a life and the important thing for any batsmen is not to be in form but also have to luck on his side. No matter how much in-form you may be but, if you are out of luck you may not score big.

    Even if you are playing very good, then a poor LBW decision against you can ruin you or you get run out because of your partner’s mistake. So, in cricket luck also plays a very important role. Same goes with the captains when they lose a toss which could be the decisive factor in winning and losing .

  14. #14 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 6, 2008 - 10:56 AM

    I forgot to mention something in my previous comment and like to add here about Sehwag. If there is any player who can make a double hundred in 50 overs game and break Saeed Anwar’s record of 194, it is Sehwag. A few years ago when India was touring Bangladesh he predicted that he might break that record, but that was one of his worst ODI performance in that series.

    In my opinion there are other openers who can achieve that feat and the most prominent of them are Brendon McCullum and Chris Gayle but both are out of form but, both are definitely capable of doing that. Tendulkar and Dhoni came closer to Anwar’s record. Dhoni didn’t open the innings but, Tendulkar did and both were short of overs. Imran Nazir during the Caribbean WC had more than 20 overs to score 35 odd runs to do that but he ran out of imagination.

    About the third test at PSS Colombo, experts believe that owing to the nature of the pitch the fast bowlers may achieve more success than the spinners and that is based on the previous performances of Shoaib Akhtar, Dale Steyn and Makhaya Ntini, hence Ishant and Zaheer should be able to rattle up the Sri Lankans like they did in the second innings at Galle. Lets see if Rain Gods permit them to play the full quota of overs. If that happens the 3rd test would be an interesting one followed by 5 ODI’s.

  15. #15 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 6, 2008 - 11:16 AM

    theossa

    do you remember, sometime back we discussed here on this blog about yawning and how some babes used to respond to our yawning? And we shared our experiences then. Now here is an interesting article on BBC about dogs catching up with human yawns:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7541633.stm

    No wonder dog is man’s best friend. Last time when I wrote this comment about dog being man’s best friend, I also mention about how women take that comment in jealousy and the example that was given to prove was picked up only by Pawan, he found it very interesting and I will repeat in case you have missed it, it is:

    Indeed dog is man’s best friend and the proof is, if you put your wife or your girlfriend in a car boot and open it after one hour and see who is more happy to see you?

    Btw, Zardari was going to catch up Musharraf’s yawn by joining him at the Olympics ceremony in China but the later canceled his trip due to the fears of impeachment by the other K9’s (General Kiyani and Nawaz), so he decided to ape Mush and stayed back.

    Whatever you may call me, a skeptic or a paranoid, but I have a very strong feeling that, prior to the CT there will be something drastic in Pakistan that will prevent the tournament from taking place in Pakistan. And, I will be very upset if that happens. Not that I am trying to jinx it but, its more like a gut feeling to me that it is bound to happen. To predict that you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to prove it because the political climate in Pakistan is such that something seems to be cooking over there and definitely it is not Nawaz Shareef’s Nihari or his famous Shab-Degh, but something more than that.

  16. #16 by khansahab on August 6, 2008 - 12:35 PM

    I hope Mohammad Munir is well and enjoying his holiday.

    Where is Theossa?

    Hope MY Kasim sahab is well.

  17. #17 by Adnan Naqvi on August 6, 2008 - 12:41 PM

    dont impeech musharraf. he is hero for karachi people and all of pakistan people.

    Adnan from Karachi

  18. #18 by theossa on August 6, 2008 - 2:49 PM

    Sorry guys, I’ve been extremely busy for the past few weeks. If you have noticed, even my posts were short and erratic. Thanks Javed and Khansahab for remembering me. Javed that’s an interesting article! So yawning is not just limited to human, I did not know this because I never had pets. Also, if you get a yawn, it’s a sign of social empathy, here is a tool to separate good chicks from bad ones -;)

    Good to see some new faces on LS. Welcome Ali Ahad and Adnan Naqvi. Ali made a good point that performance under adversity separates a world class player from the crowd. Adnan, I think Musharaf did some good things like freedom of media, sort of -;) some spending on education, and some infrastructure building in Karachi, but he also have his fair share of disasters, just my opinion.

    Catch u guys later because I have to work on this emergency project.

  19. #19 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 7, 2008 - 1:57 PM

    Musharraf faces impeachment bid

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7547300.stm

    Thats the latest news on BBC and if that happens, there will be chaos in the country and there won’t be any CHAMPIONS TROPHY IN PAKISTAN.

    The irony is the crooks and thieves are trying to impeach him, both of them (NAZA) are absolutely corrupt and have looted the country with both hands and they are talking of impeachment. So, that they have no obstacles, no hindrance, no one to stop them from doing whatever they want to and this time they want to destroy the country for good.

    Its a shame that the real majority of the people of Pakistan does not participate in elections or in any political activity and only a handful of miscreants are determined to change the destiny of the country and the people of Pakistan.

    The real people, the majority should wake up and do something to save Pakistan from going to dogs. Isn’t there any other choice? Isn’t there anyone else in the population of 170 million people?

  20. #20 by khansahab on August 7, 2008 - 3:21 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Very thought provoking views and I totally agree with you. Everything was going smoothly and the Champions Trophy being played would have benefited the PCB and the country tremendously. No other international team would have refused a tour to Pakistan if the CT would have gone smoothly. And all people who know Pakistan well, know that cricketers have never been threatened by terrorists.

    The people who are desperate to get Musharraf impeached don’t care about the country. They have vested interests and for them politics is the way to advance their businesses, modernise their lifestyles, their houses, their localities etc

    I am not defending Musharraf and it is very true that Musharraf has not been able to deliver what he promised. But two wrongs don’t make a right do they? By removing one evil we should not pave way for another evil to rule and destroy and loot the country again. They say democracy will rescue Pakistan from all crises but the PPP and PML N have damaged the country much more than the Army in my opinion. True democracy can only exist in a country where there is widespread education and where the public wants to contribute something to the nation without taking anything back. Democracy cannot exist without honest people who have integrity and who work with sincerity.

    People accuse of Musharraf of nepotism, jingoism and cronyism. When PPP came to power even Zardari was accused of the same. Nawaz Sharif is the master of exercising nepotism and jingoism. The bottom line is, in a country like Pakistan where the social and political climate is so unstable, you have to work with people you can trust and people you know. Otherwise politicians will only spend time criticising and attacking each other and nothing constructive will be done to remedy the problems of the country.

    Regardless of what happens to Musharraf these are the facts:

    1) The Pakistani government will always have to act as America’s poodle on foreign policy matters. Pakistan is running on American aid and Pakistanis cannot afford for this aid to be stopped.
    2) If someone like Nawaz Sharif comes into power, Pakistan will go towards the Dark Ages because he will not cooperate with America. If he does cooperate with America he will be called a two faced opportunist, which we all know he is. Plus there will be many ethnic conflicts because Karachi is the financial capital of the country and MQM is ruling Karachi. In the past 8 years MQM has become quite powerful and there will be clashes because Nawaz Sharif will not let them remain powerful.
    3) Under Nawaz Sharif or a like minded leader Pakistan will go in the direction of Iran. There will be severe sanctions and the developed world will cut off its ties with Pakistan. At the moment so many Pakistanis are enjoying civil liberties and freedom of speech, freedom to practice your religion, a modernising country etc etc. All this will be quashed if the Pakistani government takes a different stance to what Musharraf has taken.
    4) So however the new government operates without Musharraf, it will be a weak government and without an honest person on top, the country will be destroyed by corrupt people. The gap between the rich and poor will increase. Global inflationary pressures will keep affecting Pakistan disproportionately regardless of the government. Seeing a weak government will only give the Army incentive to organise another coup and rule Pakistan.

  21. #21 by theossa on August 7, 2008 - 3:22 PM

    No matter how much we frown, nothing is going to change, the reason? Rural Pakistan more specifically rural Punjab decides elections. Here is how it works, a dehaat, pind, or village whatever you might wanna call it are composed of illiterate and simple people and the only influenced person they know is their local Choudharey, Wadera, or Saaein, or Khan. They think he is the guy who is going to solve their problems, fix streets, sewage system, and help them out in local and legal issues. They visit his palace home and sit and wait like slaves to forward their complaints. So they vote him regardless of his party affiliation. Problem is this system and this approach only bring the same people over and over again and the Choudharey kinds make sure they use every mean to control their voters. So you dig? until we put a tremendous effort on education and start it from rural areas rather than urban, only then change will happen. It might take century or so no there is no need to waste your energy about these corrupt politicians, they are product of a flawed and corrupt system we all are part of.
    I recommend Javed you watch the Olympics and the preseason football game between Pittsburgh Steelers and Buffalo Bills which will be held in Toronto for the first time in Canadian history. It’s only a preseason game but I bet it will draw a lot of crowd after all there is nothing exciting like American Football. Ironically it’s held on August 14, the independence day of Pakistan, haha.

  22. #22 by khansahab on August 7, 2008 - 3:43 PM

    Theossa

    You are very right in saying that the rural areas need to be modernised and educated but at the same time this “Choudhary nizam” needs to be removed. The only thing this “Choudhary nizam” promotes is corruption, jingoism, arrogance, stubbornness and ignorance. Finally people have started realising this.

    You have spoken about rural Punjab Theossa, and you have hit the nail on the head by saying rural Punjab decides how Pakistan is to be governed. Rural Punjab and Paindoos need to embrace education and abandon conservative principles which they feel are deep rooted in their culture. However these principles which we often discuss on LS, the rural Punjabis think these principles are part of their identity and for them their roots and identity are the most important things. That is why they are not willing to accept change. I am really sorry if I hurt anyone’s sentiments by saying this, but this jingoistic mentality needs to be changed because rural Punjabis are the majority in Pakistan and the country will not prosper on a social and ethnic level if these attitudes are not abandoned.

  23. #23 by theossa on August 7, 2008 - 4:09 PM

    Kahnashab, an Urdu Speaking – Pathan Hybrid, Deadly! LOL

  24. #24 by Amit. P on August 7, 2008 - 5:02 PM

    Isn’t musharraf impeachment just a formality ?…. i mean he is no way controlling politics in pak or even influencing it. It doesnt matter for current pak politics whether he stays there or not. Its just an outsider view .. i wud like to be corrected by u guys.
    About democracy … it is that kind of institution that needs time to get deep rooted, specially when substantial chunk of the population are “uneducated”, like india and pakistan. In india we too often get frustrated ab’t many things muddled up by politicians …. and till 90s we have heard this utterance .. “isse achhe to angrez the” …. but that clearly was not the solution.

    In my view, you guys shud give a long run to democracy …. if musharraf wants to come into the picture then he shud better come via democratic way … by joining any party and after getting support from junta. But i dont think this way is open for him, since he enjoyed the post of president.

  25. #25 by khansahab on August 7, 2008 - 5:03 PM

    Theossa,

    “Deadly?” Lol. Honestly speaking though in real life I’m a gentleman, I’m very nice to everyone I meet and even nice to people if they are rude to me.

    Bachna aye haseeno………….lo mai aa gaya……………

  26. #26 by khansahab on August 7, 2008 - 5:10 PM

    Chronology of Musharraf’s rule

    Pakistan’s ruling coalition announced on Thursday that it would launch impeachment proceedings against President Pervez Musharraf.

    Here is a brief chronology of major political developments since 1999 when, as army chief, he seized power:

    1999

    October 12: Musharraf overthrows prime minister Nawaz Sharif after Sharif sacks him as army chief.

    2000

    May 13: Supreme Court validates coup.

    December: Sharif is freed from prison on hijacking and corruption charges, exiled to Saudi Arabia and banned from returning to Pakistan for 10 years.

    2001

    June 20: Musharraf declares himself president after the incumbent, Mohammad Rafiq Tarar, resigns.

    September 11: Musharraf drops support for Taliban and allies Pakistan with Washington after 9/11 attacks.

    2002

    April 30: Musharraf wins controversial national referendum on his rule.

    October 10: Pro-Musharraf Pakistan Muslim League-Q wins general elections.

    November 16: Musharraf sworn in for a fresh five-year term.

    2003

    December: Musharraf escapes two assassination attempts, one by Islamist military officers and the other by Al-Qaeda.

    2004

    January 1: Musharraf wins parliamentary vote of confidence affirming his unelected rule until 2007.

    February: Musharraf pardons nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan for leaking nuclear secrets to Iran, North Korea and Libya.

    December 30: Musharraf reneges on promise to quit as army chief.

    2007

    March 9: Musharraf sacks chief justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, sparking protests. Chaudhry reinstated by Supreme Court in July.

    July 10: Pakistani troops storm the radical Red Mosque in Islamabad, killing scores.

    October 6: Parliament elects Musharraf to another five-year term as president in a vote boycotted by the opposition.

    October 18: Benazir Bhutto returns from exile.

    November 3: Musharraf imposes state of emergency, sacks chief justice, suspends constitution.

    November 25: Sharif returns from exile.

    November 28: Musharraf steps down as army chief and hands control of military to General Ashfaq Kayani

    December 15: Musharraf lifts state of emergency.

    December 27: Bhutto assassinated at election rally.

    2008

    February 18: Parties of Bhutto and Sharif trounce Musharraf’s allies in general elections.

    March 24: Parliament elects Bhutto aide Yousuf Raza Gilani as prime minister.

    August 7: Coalition says Musharraf to face impeachment.

  27. #27 by theossa on August 7, 2008 - 6:03 PM

    Continuing from Khansahab

    August 8, Musharaf goes to watch Olympic ceremony in China.

    August 11, U.S. warns Zardari and Sharif to shut their face against Musharaf

    August 11, Zardari and Sharif crap in their pants

    August 14, Life goes on -;)

  28. #28 by khansahab on August 7, 2008 - 7:04 PM

    Continuing from Theossa….

    August 15- Khansahab marries Natalie Portman, Natalie becomes “Natalie Khan.”

    India celebrates independence + marriage of Natalie and Khansahab

  29. #29 by abdul on August 8, 2008 - 9:59 AM

    A good start of captaincy from kP. He has followed the advice of past captains and senior players of being himself and playing as the kP attacking batsmen. Steve Harmison made an excellent comeback to test cricket as the Steve we used to know.

  30. #30 by theossa on August 8, 2008 - 11:30 AM

    Continuing from Khansahab

    Aug 16, Khansahab found shot dead and Natalie disappears

    LOL

    No seriously Khansahab, my assessment of you is; you’ll only get along with ladies in their 30s and I’m serious, no pun intended. The reason is girls in their 20s will be too dumb for you and they’ll find you boring because of your light year ahead mental maturity. Sorry mate that includes Natalie too, Haha.

  31. #31 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 9, 2008 - 11:48 AM

    It seems like the Olympics opening ceremony has taken away the sheen & gloss from cricket and the blog remained stagnant yesterday, all day. I was too busy with my work plus one of my cousins and his family were visiting us so, I was more obliged to pay attention to him during my spare time. Now, since he has gone back I have more time at my disposal, although togather we watched the third test pre-lunch sessions on both days because he is a cricket buff too and I have asked him to write on LS and contribute his views here.

    On the first day of the 3rd test, the two referrals that were made both went in SL’s favour and it goes to prove that reputations of celebrities are at stake owing to technology.

    1. Dravid was given not out by umpire Mark Benson against an LBW appeal and Jayawardene referred it and made Dravid walk back to the pavilion.

    2. Tendulkar was given out LBW by the same umpire and Tendulkar indicated that the ball first hit the bat before hitting the pad and asked for a referral. The slow motion TV replays confirmed that bat was not involved in that shot. The two noises that were heard were from the pads. The ball first hit the front pad and then brushed the rear pad. The decision was not reversed. And, Tendulkar had to walk back.

    3. As I was writing about Tendulkar’s case, Dilshan who started hitting a couple of fours to Kumble and changed the momentum of the game was trapped LBW by the bowler and, again it was Mark Benson who gave him out and the referral was made and the decision was not reversed. It is 245 for 6.

    Kumar Sangakara has played the anchor role and he is 101 n.o., unfortunately Gambhir did not play longer. Now, SL are going to take the lead at least by 50-60 runs and that will add a lot of pressure on the Indian batsmen.

    WOW, right now, there is another LBW appeal from Bhajji and wicketkeeper Jayawerdene is given out and he is appealing, but I doubt he would be staying, its clear the ball hit his rear leg and he is plumb. And this time it is Rudy. SHUCKS !!! The height has made the difference and the decision is reversed in favour of the batsman. He is staying.

    So, the point that I was making about the beginning that the referral system is hurting some big names and three decisions have been reversed against India are making them pretty frustrated especially Kumble. The last one Jayawerdene’s case, to me it appeared that he was plumb out, but the technology confirmed that the ball was high. And reversing 3 decisions means something to me. The game of cricket is changing and this system is here to stay.

    Where is amit and pawan?
    Any comments on the referrals and Prithiv Patel’s stupid decision of not wearing a helmet and getting a blow on his nose? He is lucky to survive, Saba Karim that wicket keeper’s career was over after he got a similar blow on his eye.

    theossa and khansahab, did you guys not see Musharraf, Zardari and Nawaz’s ghost in Beijing? They were there and thats why Bush’s feet was rattling and shaking.

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