IJAZ BUTT IS FACING FLAK

Butt is unprofessional, uncouth, incompetent and a liability

Butt is unprofessional, uncouth, incompetent and a liability.

Ijaz Butt is feeling the heat these days. The Pakistan Senate is investigating him for incompetence and financial mismanagement. On top of that, he is suffering from health problems. Butt has been at the helm for just over six months, and although that is not a lot of time to judge one’s credibility, Pakistan cricket has lost substantially in a short span of time. Domestic cricket standards are deteriorating, there are administrative problems such as procedural issues with Miandad’s appointment, there are lawsuit threats from all corners, PCB is almost bankrupt and on top of that no cricket team is wanting to tour Pakistan.

Butt’s appointment was based on unreasonable and impulsive emotions and it was influenced by some aides of President Zardari. However, now even Butt’s cloest supporters are doubting his maturity and competenece. The Pakistan Senate even went as far as commenting that Butt is running the PCB like “a grocery shop”.

Pakistan cricket seems to be missing Nasim Ashraf

Pakistan cricket seems to be missing Nasim Ashraf

Dr Nasim Ashraf (DNA) is an educated and refined civil servant who has broad management experience. He has been conferred the highest civilian awards in Pakistan. These are the achievements of DNA which the media is reluctant to publicise:

1) He delivered the only Constitution of the PCB. Those before him promised the same, but none successfully kept their promises

2) Persisted with Hairgate inasmuch as getting Hair sacked from the Elite Panel of the ICC Umpires

3) Promoted regional academies so that quality of training could be commendable outside Lahore

4) Apportioned more funds to local development of cricket, again so that regional cricket in provinces could benefit instead of all the funds being diverted centrally to Lahore

5) Built corporate partnerships with sponsors and arranged for the media to cover first class cricket

6) Increased pay, prize money and match fees for domestic cricket

7) Built more grounds in remote parts of the country

8] Started a pensions system for players

These are just some of DNA’s achievements and the LS management salutes him for working for the betterment of cricket across the country.

Javed A Khan has covered this issue earlier in two threads about whether educated managers or bureaucrats are more suitable for the role or whether past cricketers should run the management of cricket in the country. After DNA’s exit most Pakistanis were arguing for a past cricketer to run the PCB. However, the disaster of Butt has taught Pakistanis a lesson- that you cannot make such high level decisions based on petty biases and emotions. It has also taught Pakistanis that education and refinement are two qualities that any person in a position of authority should have, and that education is not necessarily a university degree, but knowing the difference between decency and uncouth behaviour.

Even if one argues that things went wrong in DNA’s tenure, which is a fact, at least DNA handled matters with grace and dignity. Ijaz Butt is intent on making a fool of himself. Firstly his handling of Lawson proved what an uncultivated and uncouth person he is. I am no fan of Geoff Lawson, but any coach deserves a more dignified exit. After that Butt dealt with Miandad like he was dealing with a “dhobi” or “dhabay-wala” and it was extremely humiliating for PCB that its Director General was appointed in such a pathetic and crude manner. Now Butt is involved in a spat with the Senate. He is treating the Senate like it is some kind of “prank caller” who is a nuisance to him. It seems Butt never went to college or university, because he should know that even if the Senate has no actionable jurisdiction over his working methods, he is a public servant and hence that makes him answerable to the superior body in Islamabad that is meant to represent Pakistan.

Under DNA’s management PCB had a sense of direction, even though there were many hurdles in its path. The appointment of Malik was a mistake, but DNA cannot be held wholly responsible for it. It is a fact PCB wanted a captain who would be more willing to give into the demands of the PCB and who would attract support from most of the players, as well. However, perhaps DNA can be excused for wanting a more pliant captain. Inzamam proved to be a dictator as captain and insisted on having everything his way. Despite this Pakistan suffered notable losses in his captaincy and overall Inzamam could not prove to be a successful captain. Hence the PCB wanted a change and Malik at that time seemed the only viable option. Even the PCB’s selection policy had a sense of direction- recruitment was based on current form and the selectors understood the need for having a balance between experience and young talent in the team.

However, under the current set up, there is no certainty and no direction. Butt does not know whether to treat Asif and Akhtar as heroes or villains. Further, in a desperate situation Younis Khan has been appointed as captain; an individual who wants to take matters in his own hands and who prefers having experienced players in the side as opposed to youth. The selection committee is totally clueless because they find themselves having to appease almost everyone- the captain, the public and the rest of the cricket board. That is why there was a list of something like 50 probables right before the squad of 15 was announced for the Sri Lanka series.

Hence, the fans have had enough with Ijaz Butt and he should resign at once. Zardari needs to appoint someone who can handle the job with dignity and who has the education and vision to get Pakistan cricket back on track.

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  1. #1 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 2, 2009 - 1:11 AM

    A new thread was much needed and that too on the subject of managing the affairs of cricket in Pakistan after its recent demise in Lahore.

    Since there is hardly any cricket that is being played in Pakistan it is necessary that a new foundation is laid to make the new building blocks. And, where else it can start? None other than the PCB. The organization that not only controls the game of cricket in Pakistan but also ruins it. And this time they did it in their own Paindoo style with Butt gyrating his 72 year old butt and hoping to attract the foreign teams to come and take a dip in it.

    When DNA left the PCB, it has $30 million in surplus and now it is in deficit and this happened within 8 months. What has Butt done with that money? Is it Ijaz’s Butt or Ijaz’s Zambeel? Its strange anything and everything that goes in it disappears, even light does not escape from it!

  2. #2 by khansahab on April 2, 2009 - 9:30 AM

    The RBS One-day Cup has concluded in Pakistan with Shoaib Malik’s PIA side defeating Kamran Akmal’s NBP side.

    The most important aspect of this tournament must be the return of Shahid Afridi who was captaning HBP. Afridi made 167 runs in the Cup at an average of 42 and took 7 wickets at an average of 22. It seems that captaincy always alleviates Afridi’s form and it is a fact that his best performances have come as captain for Karachi.

    Younis Khan was also brilliant in this tournament. Although Younis is not considered a one-day specialist, he made 299 runs with an average of 100.

    Salman Butt was the best batsman of the tournament hitting 505 runs and ODI discard Khalid Latif also continued his good form and hit 455 runs.

    Batsman-cum-wicketkeeper Ali Asad of Karachi was also consistent, hitting 269 at an average of 54 whereas discarded wicketkeeper Sarfraz Ahmed continued his excellent touch with the bat, scoring 251 runs at 50 runs per innings with a strike rate of 124.

    For more than a year Sarfraz Ahmed has been batting better than Akmal in domestic cricket, yet the PCB seems to be taking no notice.

    Fawad Alam and Malik continued with their good all round form. Alam averaged 46 while Malik averaged 48. Malik picked up 6 wickets whereas Alam picked up 5, however it was surprising to see Alam bowling very economically in this tournament. In most matches he conceded less than 4.5 runs per over which has to be one of the best economy rates of the tournament.

    In bowling, Uzair-ul-Haq and Asad Ali were the leading wicket-takers. Both these players have been performing well in domestic cricket for some time, yet their bowling is not considered penetrative enough to succeed at international level. Mohammad Sami, the former Pakistan fast bowler returned with a bang because he didn’t have Akmal droppin catches, and took 11 wickets. Hopefuls Mohd Aamer and Abdur Rauf also continued the good form, taking 11 and 10 wickets respectively.

    For me personally the biggest disappointment of the tournament was Nasir Jamshed. After this tournament it will be difficult for Jamshed to secure a place against Australia and Pakistan is very likely to go with Butt and Ahmed Shahzad or Khurram Manzoor as openers. They might also want to try out Khalid Latif for his sublime form.

    In terms of bowling, there will be no major changes but Aamer and Rauf might be selected.

    In all rounders Malik, Alam and Afridi will be considered.

  3. #3 by khansahab on April 2, 2009 - 9:42 AM

    This should be the team vs Australia in ODI’s:

    Butt
    Afridi
    Malik
    Younis
    Misbah
    Alam
    Sarfraz
    Tanvir
    Gul
    Mohd Aamer
    Sohail Khan

    Reserves:
    Khurram Manzoor
    Abdur Rauf
    Shoaib Akhtar
    Yasir Arafat

  4. #4 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 2, 2009 - 10:11 AM

    khansahab, I wasn’t following the domestic tournaments of Pakistan. Thanks for updating us with your analysis.

    Don’t be sad or disappointed about Nasir Jamshed or anyone, because Pakistani selectors have this tendency to surprise us by including players who were clearly the worst performers and select a team that is beyond anyone’s imagination.

    Your team is fine, but Sarfaraz will not be in the team because the ghost called KHATMAL will be there.

  5. #5 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 2, 2009 - 10:28 AM

    PAKISTAN VS. AUSTRALIA IN THE UAE

    The point that is to be seen is not just the difference between the two teams in terms of performance, but the conditions. Australia has been the top team and they are playing cricket regularly. In fact they will be on their way home from SA with a brief stopover in the UAE to play against Pakistan and to have some fun and make some extra bucks. Besides the team strengths, the pitch and the hot weather conditions will make some difference, especially Dubai is a new venue. New ground, new stadium and no one knows how the pitch will behave there? Abu Dhabi and Sharjah have some history, especially Sharjah, but there aren’t any matches in Sharjah.

    According to an information from my sources, Dubai pitch is made for batsmen and bowlers will not be able to do much after the first few overs. Basically its a pitch that is made for public entertainment and knowing Pakistan’s batting abilities either they all perform or they will all fail, the good chances are Pakistan will loose all the matches. Having said this, I still don’t loose faith in a few of the Pakistani players. The bowlers except for Gul do not pose any threat to the Aussies, Tanvir is moody these days and his bowling is very erratic since the last IPL. So, its hard to say whether he can do anything extraordinary against Australia especially on a wicket that suits batsmen. Anyways, lets see.

  6. #6 by khansahab on April 2, 2009 - 11:22 AM

    Javed A Khan

    I completely agree with you. If Gul is fit he is the only bowler who will make an impact. The sad situation is that because of this whole drama created by Akhtar and Asif, we don’t really know who else can partner with Gul.

    Sohail Khan is the one of the best fast bowlers in the domestic circuit and I believe he took wickets in the current one day cup. However, when he played in the Karachi Test there were faults with his run up and action. Also, Mohd Talha failed to make an impact and so much so that in this one day cup Talha’s performance has been mediocre.

    I want to know what Aaqib Javed has been doing with these bowlers. S Khan stole the limelight in the first class Pentangular Cup in 2007- his performance in one match where he took 14 wickets (I think it was Sindh vs Punjab) was considered by many to be one of the best first class bowling spells seen in recent times.

    The reason why I support people like S Khan and Fawad Alam is because they have performed brilliantly in first class matches, and it is first class games (4 day) where a cricketer’s real skill shows. The reason why people say Malik is not a Test level player is because he averages about 28/29 which is about half of what Fawad Alam averages in first class.

    S Khan also performed commendably after that Pentangular Cup, yet I just don’t see how Aaqib could not remedy the problems with his follow through?

    I have respect for Aaqib, Shahid Nazir and Rashid Latif because they are doing what people like Imran Khan, Waqar, Wasim Akram and Miandad should be doing- working in academies to raise standards of youngsters. Aaqib, Nazir and Rashid are also more educated than Wasim, Waqar, Miandad etc, and they must really be congratulated for their efforts because money and showbiz has not been their foremost priority. However, I am greatly disturbed by the fact that Aaqib has not worked well with S Khan.

    Similarly, it is too early to criticise Aaqib as regards the performance of Talha, but he should start helping Talha regain his confidence and rhythm.

  7. #7 by khansahab on April 2, 2009 - 12:06 PM

    Pakistan players to sue Indian Premier League

    Five leading Pakistani cricketers, who were dumped by the IPL, are planning to file a case in an Indian court against the IPL bosses and franchises for canceling their contracts prematurely and not clearing their dues for the term of their three-year contracts.

    Pakistan captain Younis Khan, Shoaib Malik, Shahid Afridi, Salman Butt and Shoaib Akhtar, who all played in the inaugural IPL tournament, have asked an agent to go to Mumbai and file the damages suit there in the High Court.

    “The agent represents Mohammad Asif and now he has also been approached by these players to help them file a case against the IPL in Indian court,” a ‘Jang´ report said on Thursday.

    The players feel the IPL wrongly terminated their three-year contracts after the Pakistan government did not allow these players to go to India because of the strained political relations between the two countries.

    The IPL has now been shifted to South Africa for security reasons and the players want the IPL to either allow them to play in the IPL in South Africa or compensate them fully for their three year contracts or revive them.

    “The players believe since they didn’t refuse to play in the IPL the organisers should not terminated their contracts at a short notice without clearing dues for the full three-year contract,” the report said.

  8. #8 by Mohammed Munir on April 2, 2009 - 1:31 PM

    It’s almost a month since the last thread and I must confess the wait is nicely rewarded by this new interesting article.

    The most unfortunate situation for Pakistan is that each coming person is worst then the previous one, be it in Cricket or even Politics. The fact that we are now dearly ‘missing’ DNA and Pervez Musharraf is because we have got worst replacements for both these guys in Butt and Zardari respectively.

    What’s more worrying is that we could all be sitting two years down the line with some new persons and may be arguing that Butt and Zardari were better then those new ones. Although, I hope and pray that the buck may stop here, because we may not be able to get worst choices then the current guys as I think we are at the bottom of the pitfall.

  9. #9 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 2, 2009 - 2:15 PM

    Munir, I don’t agree with the second paragraph of your comment, because Zardari is a pit less, butt less, endless daku, lutera and a crook, he may have handled the two Badmash Brothers well to silence them, it doesn’t mean he is a good leader. And, Butt is opposite of him in the sense, a Butt full of arrogance with no brains and he is not a daku lutera but, a chota mota petty chor. No one will miss them. Btw, there is no bottom in a pitfall, like I mentioned in my previous comment that its more like a Zambeel, (I dunno if you know what it means, ask an Arab if you don’t) and even light won’t escape from it – means….. its like a black hole in the Universe.

    khansahab – these ex IPL lovers are showing their frustration now, “Khisyani Billi Khamba Nochi” they won’t get anything they only want to be in the news thats all. Instead of this, they should focus on their game, all are UKPs and good for nothing.

  10. #10 by Mohammed Munir on April 2, 2009 - 4:43 PM

    Javed Khan …

    Yes we may really be at the bottom of a bottomless pitfall with Zardari and Butt, but anything can happen in Pakistan.

    What I mean is that, although I have clearly mentioned that we “MAY” not find worst choices then Zardari and Butt, but trust me, we surely will miss even Zardari and Butt, if they are replaced by say, Altaf Hussain (if he ever came to Pakistan) and Sarfraz Nawaz, and this is not totally impossible seeing what could happen in Pakistani Politics and PCB.

    There is no dearth of scumbags in Pakistan, you see. “Aik Dhoondo Hazar Miltey Hain, Naqad Maango Udhaar Miltey Hain” 😉

    Oh, and I know Zambeel very well, not only from the storeies of “Umroo Aiyaar Ki Zambeel”, but also from the Arabic meaning of the world Zambeel 😉

  11. #11 by khansahab on April 2, 2009 - 4:53 PM

    Munir sahab

    It would be difficult to imagine someone worse than Zardari and I can understand what you meant in your comment and why you have chosen Altaf Hussein as a worse candidate.

    However, in my opinion Zardari and Nawaz are worse because they do everything Altaf does in terms of thuggery and violence, but they also loot the exchequer along the way.

  12. #12 by khansahab on April 2, 2009 - 6:54 PM

    Omer

    I think you are misunderstanding the situation slightly. What we are trying to say, which I said in my earlier comment in black and white, is that the question is WHO IS BETTER and even the closest supporters of Butt are now criticising him. We don’t ever mean to say that if Zardari and Nawaz are bad, then Musharraf automatically becomes good or if Butt is bad, DNA automatically becomes a good administrator.

    What happened in WC 2007 was due to two factors mainly- the unavailability of Akhtar and Inzamam’s defensive captaincy. No one has been able to handle Akhtar whereas Inzamam was not listening to the Board or anyone else. So how can you blame DNA for it? When Pakistan lost he offered to resign, he did more than what could be expected from him. When WC 2007 was staged he had only been Chairman for just over 5 months. Anyone could have been in his situation- Butt, Shaharyar Khan or anyone else.

    Regarding the captaincy of Malik, I have explained why it happened in the main thread but I will reiterate those reasons for your sake. PCB did not want another dictatorial captain and they wanted someone who could gain support amongst the players and at the same time, follow the PCB’s commands. There was no one else apart from Malik, because Younis declined captaincy and Afridi was never a candidate because of reasons which I would prefer not to mention.

    At that time the MAJORITY of people were supporting Malik’s appointment and I was one of them. I totally admit that at that time it was necessary to move away from the Inzamam-style captaincy. I would have appointed Malik myself had I been in DNA’s position. Yes, I do blame DNA for persisting with Malik so on that point I will support you.

  13. #13 by M. Y.. Kasim on April 2, 2009 - 9:47 PM

    While we are on the cricketing subject, let me once again say that centuries and double centuries have become so common that it has lost its glamour and importance it once enjoyed.

    Look at the recently concluded Test between India and New Zealand. Over 1300 runs were scored with one DOUBLE and FIVE other centuries scored !!

    Is it not a joke? To score a century was something, not every Tom, Dick and Harry could do it. Nowadays, even a bowler like Mitchell Johnson does it. There was a time when fans went to see a good batting performance against quality bowling. Now, the pitch has made the bowler in-effective and an ordinary batsman look “great”.

  14. #14 by khansahab on April 3, 2009 - 10:15 AM

    Moin Khan miffed at Yousuf, Razzaq’s loyalty switch

    Karachi, April 03: Having played a crucial role in recruiting players for the Indian Cricket League, former Pakistan captain Moin Khan is miffed at Mohammad Yousuf and Abdul Razzaq`s readiness to dump ICL in order to revive their international career.

    Yousuf and Razzaq have informed the Pakistan Cricket Board that they are willing to cancel their ICL contracts if reconsidered for national selection.

    Moin told reporters that he didn`t like the way Yousuf and Razzaq had offered to switch loyalty.

    “It is true that ICL is facing problems and they couldn`t organise their tournament in March-April. But you go through good and bad times and one expects people to behave more maturely when tested,” he said.

    Moin said the ICL had never stopped any player from representing his national team and it were actually the national boards that had imposed bans on the ICL players.

    “I was just a bit surprised at the way Yousuf and Razzaq clamoured to offer themselves again for Pakistan and cancel their contracts with the ICL,” Moin said.

    “I would have expected them to be a bit more patient and show some loyalty because the ICL has been good for the players when even their national boards were not considering them for selection,” the former wicketkeeper-batsman said.

    Moin said he would be happy to see some of the ICL players return to the Pakistan fold but they should do it in a dignified manner.

    “What Yousuf did in the past as far as his contract with ICL was concerned was not good for him or Pakistan cricket. But this time hopefully everything will be done legally and properly so they are not problems later on,” he said.

    Moin said he would also like the Pakistan Cricket Board to get a clear direction from the International Cricket Council on the future of the ICL players if they left the league.

    “They shouldn`t face a sticky situation later on with the ICC coming up with some new regulations not allowing these players to return to their national teams,” he added.

    Moin also claimed that Razzaq had denied saying that the ICL has cancelled contracts of the Pakistani players, rendering them free to play for anyone.

    “Razzaq has denied saying this. The truth is the ICL has not cancelled anyone`s contract and the money they owe to some of the players will also be cleared soon. We are all waiting to see which direction the ICL takes but we need to be patient and loyal,” Moin said.

    He also made it clear that every player knew what he was getting into when he signed for the ICL.

    “No one forced anyone to play for the ICL and every player was aware of the consequences he would face from his board,” he said.

  15. #15 by khansahab on April 3, 2009 - 10:20 AM

    I agree with Moin. Now Yousuf and Razzaq are declaring their patriotism for Pakistan and saying that they always wanted to play for the country. Why did they have to switch to ICL then?

    In my opinion, not being loyal to ANYONE is worse than not being loyal to your own country, because that just means you can be bought by any wad of cash.

    If you recall why Razzaq and Yousuf joined ICL, Razzaq’s performance was declining and he knew soon he would be dropped from the squad. Similarly Yousuf was unhappy at not being appointed captain and unhappy over being dropped for the T20 Cup. He cannot play T20 cricket- he doesn’t have the aggression or fitness so I don’t know why he was moaning about it.

  16. #16 by khansahab on April 3, 2009 - 10:58 AM

    Omer

    Some people mean well, but most others don’t agree with them. On Pakspin apart from Javed A Khan and Awas and one or two others, hardly anyone agreed with me, too.

    Musharraf meant well but most Pakistanis did not agree with his vision- fair enough. DNA also meant well and the reason why I say he meant well is because he tried to do a lot of things which were previously missing from Pakistan cricket and which are essential for cricket to prosper in the country. His main objectives were to promote cricket in the regions instead of in the centre (Lahore), to give a Constitution and to eliminate indiscipline from the team.

    Many people thought what he did with Akhtar was harsh. I agree that 5 year ban was silly, but he basically told Akhtar that he is not above the game and no one should beg him or pamper him. That is how Akhtar deserves to be treated and DNA showed him his place.

    Ijaz Butt was appointed for the wrong reasons and whether he means well or not, he does not have the maturity or education to handle the job. You can’t hold him to be similar to DNA; there is a world of a difference.

  17. #17 by khansahab on April 4, 2009 - 12:53 AM

    Omer

    Agreed Razzaq is a better bowler than Malik, but there are two things you are discounting here. The first is that Razzaq was only taking wickets of tailenders from about 2005 onwards and the second is that being a fast bowler he will always have better statistics in limited overs matches.

    Zaheer Khan and Umar Gul are different entities. Razzaq has no pace, hardly any swing and very less variety compared to Gul. In fact in Tests I don’t think Razzaq is even vaguely comparable to any of them.

    I have nothing personal against Malik, so I think it is unfair if every criticism in this world is hurled at Malik. He is not a great batsman but he is a consistent one. His bowling is OK- the likes of Saeed Ajmal and Abdur Rehman can’t bowl better than him and he can probably bowl better than Kaneria at the moment.

    When we are discussing performance we need to specify if it is in the context of ODI’s or Tests, because players like Malik and Razzaq are best at T20, good or average in ODI and then below average in Tests.

    This is not to say that Malik is a necessity in the team, because he is dispensable. Players like Fawad Alam can take his position anytime. I was strongly against Malik when he was captain because he was basically a poor strategist and he lacked the maturity and education to inspire his team-mates.

  18. #18 by khansahab on April 4, 2009 - 9:48 AM

    Omer

    Please stop trying to blur the vision before my eyes. This vision sees 3 different formats and sees different players suitable for different formats.

    A few weeks ago I provided some statistics regarding Razzaq and I proved basically that since 2004 he had become a liability in the team. His performance was worsening every year.

    When Shoaib Akhtar was dropped in Nasim Ashraf’s time for indiscipline, he gave a media presentation that he is fit and DNA has conspired to remove him from the team. There were protests and riots in Lahore and Pindi. When Razzaq moved to ICL, no one was much concerned. That is the difference between a match winner and someone like Razzaq.

    In Tests Razzaq’s bowling is ordinary although I have agreed he is a better bowler than Malik. Even in ODI’s I remember he was conceding 5+ runs every over and if he took 1 or 2 wickets, that is no big deal. Afridi can do that too and Afridi is a spinner. On recent form Malik has been taking 1 or 2 wickets here and there and keeping the economy rate below 5. Also, Razzaq has been playing a lot of T20 cricket lately and he will not find it easy to adjust to ODI or Test cricket.

    Omer, one thing we should all digest is that Pakistan plays on “difficult” conditions very rarely. If it plays 25% of its matches outside the Subcontinent and then out of those 25% even if Razzaq performs 50% of the times, his performance ratio will not be anything impressive. Why do you think Salman Butt has survived for so long despite batting like a tailender on foreign pitches? That is because he is invincible on flat pitches. I am sorry I can’t accept this argument that Razzaq was good at batting under pressure because although he may have played a few good innings under pressure, he only bats in two gears; block or slog. That is the extent of his batting expertise and I can’t call that kind of player a “proper batsman”. At least Malik can pace his innings, take singles and doubles, time the ball better and play a wider range of shots.

    I would rather play Yasir Arafat than Razzaq; Arafat is a better fielder, has more pace, more variety in bowling and on his day he can make a 50 too with the bat. By virtue of his pathetic fielding only Razzaq is a no-no for me in international T20.

    The first qualification is whether you can bat on flat pitches. Malik, in ODI’s and T20 has shown he can do that. In Tests the line-up should be something like the following and as you will see, I consider neither Razzaq nor Malik as Test players:

    Butt
    Afridi
    Younis
    Yousuf
    Misbah
    Alam
    Sarfraz
    Gul
    (Specialist legspinner)
    Sohail Khan
    (fast bowler)

  19. #19 by khansahab on April 4, 2009 - 11:25 AM

    Omer

    I don’t want to even pretend to have a mindless argument regarding 2 players who are not even good enough to play Test cricket, especially with someone who I consider to be educated and reasonably learned.

    Pitches in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are very similar and all Pakistani batsmen are generally good on those pitches. I have already mentioned 4 of the top 9 international teams there. When was the last time Pakistan played in Australia, or England, or South Africa or New Zealand?

    Also, what you are not understanding is that Razzaq basically had 3 phases in his career- between 1998 and 2003 when he was indispensable and a top all rounder, between 2003 and 2006 when he was OK enough to warrant a place, and then from 2006 onwards where he could not bat or bowl. What is the point of having an all rounder if he can’t do either? So statistics here will not provide you with the complete story because you’re talking about a player who was outstanding in one phase, but who declined as time progressed.

    Further, you are avoiding my argument about Test cricket although you should know that is the format that shows a player’s real ability. If you provide Razzaq’s Test statistics they will present a slightly different picture.

    You are the one who keeps emphasising technique and what constitutes a “genuinely good” player. I’m afraid someone who can only bat in 2 gears and someone who has a strike rate of 70 in Test cricket has neither good technique, nor is he a genuinely good player.

    If statistics mean so much then Afridi averages 23 or 24 in ODI’s with the bat, which is similar to Imran Nazir’s averge. But we both know the difference in quality of the two players. One is a match winner and the other is a bits and pieces player.

    Plus the argument was NEVER that Malik is a good player. The argument is that he is better than Razzaq. He is a better batsman, a better fielder and on current bowling form, the same kind of bowler.

    In ODI’s, in 2005 Razzaq averaged 26, in 2006 he averaged 38 but that was because of remaining not out in 7 out of 19 innings which is quite disproportionare according to normal standards, and because of a series against Zimbabwe (great opposition) where he hit a century or two (Why am I not surprised?).

    In 2007 he averaged 12.

    So in real terms his performance was declining. I’ve posted these stats before for your attention as well.

    And the great Razzaq’s bowling performance in ODI’s was thus:

    2005: Strike rate of 39 (which is not great for a fast bowler, but let’s accept it as OK)
    2006: Strike rate of 47 (poor)
    2007: Strike rate of 50 (pathetic)

    Form is temporary and class is permament, but when you start noticing that something temporary becomes something longstanding, you need to kick the player out and I am happy he was kicked out. I don’t want to see him playing again.

  20. #20 by khansahab on April 4, 2009 - 12:05 PM

    The Asif-Malik Affair

    LAHORE: It seems that Pakistan’s fast bowler Mohammad Asif and controversies are made for each other. Asif, who is already facing a one-year ban from the Indian Premier League (IPL) for failing a drug test, has been accused as ‘home-wrecker’.

    According to reports, film actor Babrak Shah has alleged that Asif destroyed his happy marital life with TV and film actress Veena Malik. “I was happily married to Veena when Asif ‘interrupted’ my married life by starting wooing Veena and he succeeded,” Babrak has been quoted as saying. Babrak said he had divorced Veena on March 31 in presence of Asif. “Yes I divorced her when I realised that Veena was not mending her ways and started having an affair with Asif,” he added.

    Asif, who has played 11 Tests and 31 ODIs, is not new to controversies. Ever since making his international debut, highly talented Asif has plunged from one controversy to another that has undermined his career. Last year in June he was detained at the Dubai International Airport for 19 days for carrying a small quantity of opium in his wallet when he was on his way back to Pakistan from Mumbai. The tall speedster was banned, along with fellow pacer Shoaib Akhtar, for testing positive for a banned anabolic steroid nandrolone just before the ICC Champions Trophy on October 16, 2006. It resulted in a two-year suspension for Akhtar and a one-year suspension for Asif in November 2006, though they were later acquitted later by a Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) appellate tribunal.

  21. #21 by khansahab on April 4, 2009 - 12:45 PM

    Omer

    Fine I accept your point that Razzaq can be a destructive player. Both of us can say things to oppose the other’s argument. You are accepting Razzaq performed poorly against South Africa in some series, by admitting that you’re contradicting your own argument that he can play well against good sides. Also, you said Sri Lanka pitches are not always flat. Shoaib Malik averages 39 in ODI’s on Sri Lankan pitches which is a handy ODI average. He has 2 centuries in Sri Lanka, as well.

    Due to your unwavering support for Razzaq, I hope for your sake he plays and we can see him perform.

  22. #22 by khansahab on April 4, 2009 - 1:00 PM

    Omer

    OK I look forward to Razzaq’s selection but please tell him to stop the spinach obsession 🙂

    And how did you find Sofia Gucci?

  23. #23 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 4, 2009 - 1:01 PM

    Omer

    “I am agree,” with khansahab about Abdul Razzak’s form. He was a good player but his form was pathetic and during that time me too, I have criticized his double minded approach whether to go defensive or get aggressive by saying: “Razzaq doesn’t know whether to wear a cap or a helmet and he wears both at the same time.” It is funny because, I have never seen any player doing that. Secondly, even when playing defensive cricket he was using a long handle bat, which normally players use it for aggression or when they have to score fast. But, Popeye The Sailor Man Abdul Razzaq’s brain has been damaged since he ate “spinach and nothing but spinach” and passed out in his hotel room in Australia in 2004-05 series.

    Last night I watched India New Zealand match live on TV and it was a pathetic performance by the NZ batsmen, except that Ross Taylor was not out and the umpire gave him out. The snicker proved that the ball did not touch his bat or anything (not even the pad) that was bad umpiring and other than that Zaheer Khan bowled well. During India’s first innings when they were 204/6 I thought they won’t make 250 but Dhoni is a very lucky guy, Harbhajan scored a 60 and Zaheer Khan scored 33 in 21 balls (four consecutive fours and a two in one over) and even Ishant and Munna Bhai Patel scored runs and that changed the complexion of the game, and 379 is a good total to defend. The game and the series is in India’s pocket now. So, its coming exactly the way I predicted that NZ will win both the T20 matches and India will win the ODI and test series convincingly. Wow, I am better than the “Chartists” 😀

    I like the Wellington cricket ground, it is in perfect settings and on a sunny day there is no ground better than this one in terms of landscape.

  24. #24 by khansahab on April 4, 2009 - 1:09 PM

    YET ANOTHER OCCASION when Javed A Khan and myself have said the same thing at the same time- within a space of 1 minute both of us mentioned Razzaq’s spinach obsession 🙂

  25. #25 by khansahab on April 4, 2009 - 1:59 PM

    Omer

    Sofia Gucci? Email?

  26. #26 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 5, 2009 - 1:05 PM

    Last night one of my friends was telling me that he saw on one of the desi TV channels that Australia will NOT be playing a full strength team against Pakistan in the forthcoming matches in the UAE. Is it true? Because, I cannot find any such news on the internet. What I found is very silly:

    http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=170884

    It says, “Shoaib Akhtar in Qadir’s team after passing fitness test.”

    When was that he failed a fitness test in Pakistan? And, when he goes with the team he is seen sitting in the dugout with the reserve players OR, he plays one match and then he is injured. That idiot cannot bowl two overs without getting huff puffed and he gives away so many runs that the morale of the whole team goes down. Remember in that T20 against Sri Lanka he gave away 43 runs in 3 overs. Its because of him Pakistan lost. Gone are the days when he used to be a threat. Now, the opposition is always very happy when they see that he is in the side, because they score freely and then Pakistan is a bowler short. I think Qadir has gone nuts, not that he wasn’t earlier but, now since he is the chief selector, he is gone bonkers to include that Actor in the team.

  27. #27 by M. Y.. Kasim on April 5, 2009 - 8:27 PM

    Javed A. Khan,

    I read somewhere that Aussies will travel directly to Dubai/Abu Dhabi from SA, so the team will be the same which is playing against SA, meaning full-strength.

    Another joke, the Pindi Maalgari observed that the Aussies will be easy to beat this time around, since most of their top players have retired!! This led our Chief Selector to believe that the Actor would deliver, hence his eagerness to have him abroad.

  28. #28 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 6, 2009 - 3:12 AM

    Mr. Kasim, yes I know that the Aussies team is coming from SA and I did mention in my previous comment that for them, it will be a stop over also, it will be an opportunity for them to make some extra bucks in Dubai…….. BUT, what I heard is Ponting said, he is too tired to play in the UAE and he will give rest to some of his senior players like Hussey and himself plus a few others and they will try their other youngsters against a sick, poor and depleted Pakistani team.

    As regards the Rawalpindi Maalgaari, Aussies don’t need their top players to bang him, even their second tier team would be enough to slog him over the fence. Mind you it was not Jayasuriya, Jayawardene and Sangakar, but Dilshan and Kapuragedra thrashed him in that match, so the Aussies would find it very easy.

  29. #29 by khansahab on April 6, 2009 - 3:47 PM

    Khalid Latif or Khurram Manzoor should been selected instead of Ahmed Shehzad: Sallu

    Speaking to ARY ONE WORLD Ex ‘Chief Selector’ Salahuddin Salu told it was total injustice to select Ahmed Shehzad instead of Khalid Latif, who has scored tons of runs in the last ODI cup including a double hundred. Also he mentioned Qadir promised an experienced strong squad:” But why is a 17 year old Shehzad selected than instead of an experienced Manzoor?”

  30. #30 by khansahab on April 6, 2009 - 5:56 PM

    Ex-PCB chief blasts board for picking Shoaib

    Karachi: The Pakistan Cricket Board on Monday came under a scathing attack from one of its former chiefs who said the board has adopted double standards in dealing with fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar.

    Khalid Mehmood, a former PCB chairman, claimed Shoaib to be unfit and felt youngsters should have got a look-in instead of the 33-year-old bowler.

    “It is quite apparent that Shoaib is no more capable of playing for Pakistan but still the PCB is persisting with him instead of bringing younger bowlers,” said Mehmood.

    “It seems that the board lacks the will and determination to take our cricket forward. There is confusion and lack of confidence within the PCB set-up.”

    Pakistan on Monday included Shoaib Akhtar in its 15-man squad for the one-day series against Australia to be played in Dubai and Abu Dhabi from April 22-May 7.

    Shoaib, 33, was previously sidelined as a spent force but made a comeback in the Pakistan team after ‘proving’ his fitness. Mehmood also lambasted PCB over the terrorist attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore last month.

    He pointed out that the Sri Lankan cricketers came to Pakistan at a time when no other team was interested in visiting this country because of security apprehensions but even then they were given minimal security cover.

    “The Sri Lankan cricketers were given an improper security cover and for that the PCB, being the host board, is also responsible,” he said.

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