The next few days bring an uncanny excitement to Pakistan cricket fans. We have seen captains changing, disasters wrecking sport in the nation and political and social turmoil affecting the morale of the Pakistani public and cricketers, but the next few days can improve the situation for everyone who has some kind of association with Pakistan.

The responsibility on Youniss shoulders is enormous, and the expectations of Pakistani fans are greater

The responsibility on Younis's shoulders is enormous, and the expectations of Pakistani fans are greater

A new leader is at the helm in the form of Younis Khan, a generally respected figure. Younis is one of the few stars of Pakistan cricket of the past decade who have not been involved in scandals or disgraceful incidents. Across the world Younis Khan is known as a friendly, caring individual who is deeply patriotic about his country and passionate about his culture, but who does not let that come in the way of respecting other countries and cultures. Although it is too early to speak in favour of or against Younis’s captaincy, he needs to lead with relentless aggression because that is the only way Pakistan can become a top side.


The top performers for Pakistan going into this series are Younis and Umar Gul. Whereas

With Shoaib Akhtars fitness being debatable, Gul goes into this series being Pakistans main strike bowler

With Shoaib Akhtar's fitness being debatable, Gul goes into this series being Pakistan's main strike bowler

Younis has been Pakistan’s best batsmen for almost 2 years now, Gul has been Pakistan’s best bowler for almost the same duration. Apart from testing Younis’s captaincy skills, this series will also test his character when it comes to batting. Younis only averages 16 against Australia in ODI’s and he needs to improve that figure.
Gul needs to bowl with fire and aggression. If he can extract the right bounce, bowl quick and use reverse swing, he can cause Australia plenty of problems.


Will Afridis batting form return playing against Australia?

Will Afridi's batting form return against the 2nd best ODI side?

Shahid Khan Afridi: Afridi has been in good domestic form and made an impact both with bowling and batting in the recent RBS One Day Cup. If Afridi can get into some kind of batting form, he will be a force to be reckoned with in this series. He is going into this series as Pakistan’s most reliable spinner.

Sohail Tanvir: Tanvir got into some form in recent tournaments after consulting Javed Miandad. He started with a bang and he needs to retain the same attitude. If he can bowl with pace he will trouble some Australian batsmen.

Nasir Jamshed: Younis reportedly prefers Ahmed Shahzad over Nasir Jamshed, not least because of obtaining the right hand/left hand opening combination with Salman Butt. However, Nasir has more experience and has impressed to some degree so far in international cricket. He needs to bat with confidence and play his natural game. A good series against Australia will guarantee him selecton in the team at least for another year.

Australia will be banking on captain Clarke, all rounder Symonds, keeper Haddin and medium pacer Bracken.

Symonds is back, and he enjoys ripping Pakistan to shreds

Symonds is back, and he enjoys ripping Pakistan to shreds

Symonds averages 62 against Pakistan in ODI’s which is his highest average against any Test playing nation. Haddin is averaging 43 this year. Clarke is going into this series as Australia’s best batsman. Bracken is amongst the best ODI bowlers in the world, although against South Africa he was not in his best form.

A lot of Pakistan fans are predicting a series win for Pakistan, and some are also saying that Pakistan will end up winning 2 matches. Australia cannot be underestimated and in fact the LS Management is doubting Pakistan’s potential, although they acknowledge this potential. Players like Hauritz and Shane Watson have the ability to turn matches around single handedly. Hauritz was the Man of the Match in the last match against South Africa, so he is in form.

The biggest advantage to Australia which is also Pakistan’s biggest disadvantage, is that some consistency can be expected from the Aussies. Clarke can bank on knowing the limits to what his players can and cannot do. Younis will be less sure of his team’s potential, but his job is just to offer support to his players and persuade them to play positive and aggressive cricket.

Who is the next legend in the making?

Who is the next legend in the making?

Pakistan cricket thrives on uncertainty. The fans expect the unexpected. That has been the pulse of Pakistan cricket for a long time. Today Pakistan is devoid of legends like Wasim, Waqar, Imran and Miandad. The problem I have with Younis and Qadir’s management is that we are only seeing 1 or 2 new players in this squad. Barring Nasir Jamshed, Ahmad Shahzad and Fawad Alam, all of these players have been tried and tested. When his career ends Younis will probably be considered a legend, but ODI cricket has not been his forte until very recently. So, none of the players in this squad are capable of emulating the feats of Saeed Anwar, Miandad or Wasim Akram.

However, playing under a new captain and in home-like conditions, still offers limited hope to Pakistanis. Younis will be in the spotlight because he has supported playing these tried and tested players. Now it is upto Younis Khan to create some magic and create history by leading his team to a series victory against a formidable side, a win which will go in history books as the revival of Pakistan cricket. A loss is expected, but a win will transform the morale of a bruised nation, and an emotionally battered people. This is Pakistan’s chance to make a difference.

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  1. #1 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 9:47 AM

    Munaf gets engaged before leaving for S.A…

    Vadodara, Apr 21 (PTI) Indian Speedster Munaf Patel got engaged with local girl Taslima before leaving for South Africa to play in the high-profile Indian Premier League-II.
    “It was kept a private affair and very few closely related family members from both the parties had attended the engagement ceremony,” Ikhar village sarpanch Makbulbhai Khankhara told PTI.

    Taslima, who has completed her studies upto higher secondary, and Munaf knew each other very well, Khankhara said. Her father Amanulla Haji basher has been working in a managerial capacity in a mill at Palej, he added.

    Taslima used to glue to the TV set to see her fiance, also known as Ikhar Express, playing in the cricket matches for India and in IPL.

    Asked when will the nikah be performed, Khankhara said “it would depend on the schedule of Twenty20 World Cup matches to be held in England after couple of months as he is very eager to play for the country.

    “The bunglow built by Munaf in his native Ikhar village is nearing completion. It has all the facilities needed for keeping him fit for the cricket matches,” he added.

  2. #2 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 10:32 AM

    Australia have won the toss and elected to bat first.

    Watch the match on

  3. #3 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 10:35 AM

    No Fawad Alam.

    He will not get to play in the whole series probably. He might get 1 or 2 matches later if he’s lucky.

  4. #4 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 10:43 AM

    LOL @ WAQAR‘s pitch report:

    “I tell you….you remember “a” mud bowls of “a” Sharjah few years ago……but this pitch has “a” grass on it………………..!”

  5. #5 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 10:55 AM

    Stay tuned on LS for match updates……..

  6. #6 by Awas on April 22, 2009 - 10:58 AM

    Re comment 2

    Thanks but not a good link… keeps failing. Is it because it’s a busy site?

  7. #7 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 11:00 AM

    The link so far has been working OK for me. Have you pressed the PLAY button on the player?

  8. #8 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 11:06 AM

  9. #9 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 11:37 AM

    According to Waqar, Shoaib Akhtar is slightly “a-limping”.

    Although Akhtar seems to be running OK. Let us see what happens.

  10. #10 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 11:38 AM

    Huge 6 by Haddin. Australia have started the attack……….

  11. #11 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 11:48 AM


    Shaun Marsh departs…….

  12. #12 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 12:12 PM

    Thank God Younis introduced Afridi as the 4th bowling change. Malik was introducing Afridi as the 5th or 6th bowling change and he would definitely introduce Ajmal before Afridi.

  13. #13 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 12:25 PM

    Shoaib Akhtar just dropped a catch off Afridi’s bowling…..

  14. #14 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 12:31 PM


    Good catch by Younis.

  15. #15 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 12:37 PM


    Great bowling by Ajmal, sharp catch by Akmal.

  16. #16 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 12:43 PM


    Pakistan on a roll. Afridi on fire. Akmal is in good keeping form..

  17. #17 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 12:47 PM




  18. #18 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 12:56 PM

    Australia has been rattled by Pakistan’s spin attack.

    Afridi on fire and being supported well by Ajmal.

    Unbelievable scenes in Dubai.

  19. #19 by Mohammed Munir on April 22, 2009 - 1:26 PM

    “Lala” Zindabad 😉

  20. #20 by Awas on April 22, 2009 - 1:26 PM


    That’s quite amazing performance by the spinners especially Afridi. Wow!

    Didn’t one of the expert say spinners would do well here…was it Sallahudin…can’t remember…

  21. #21 by Mohammed Munir on April 22, 2009 - 1:30 PM

    Shahid Khan Afridi…

    Da Kho”Khan” Saray Da !!

  22. #22 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 1:31 PM


    Salahuddin did say it, yes. Although the commentators are saying it was Inthikab’s idea as Australia have recently shown a weakness against spin.

  23. #23 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 1:44 PM

    The truth aboout Musharraf’s farmhouse that was supposedly obtained through corruption and illegal allotment:

  24. #24 by Awas on April 22, 2009 - 1:51 PM

    Now fast bowlers are leaking runs and that too against the tail.

    Why didn’t Malik bowl especially when spinners did well? Inexplicable!

  25. #25 by Ali Ahad on April 22, 2009 - 2:12 PM

    Now this is I called stupidity. You have a regular opener in the form of Nasir Jamshed but the management stuck with ‘Khutmal’. He better not ‘Suck Up’.

  26. #26 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 2:13 PM

    Ali Ahad

    WHERE were you ALL these days!? You were missed.

    I think the commentators said Nasir Jamshed is not feeling well, or something like that.

  27. #27 by Ali Ahad on April 22, 2009 - 2:29 PM

    Khansahab – I was here busy with work but I was reading the blog but didn’t get time to give my input. Good to see the team back in action. Hope today’s game is not a fluke and they capitalize the series with the win from today’s game.

  28. #28 by Mohammed Munir on April 22, 2009 - 2:31 PM

    It’s ELECTRIC here guys 🙂

  29. #29 by Mohammed Munir on April 22, 2009 - 2:43 PM

    The Arabs are dancing allover the ground, it’s lunch.

    UAE is back.
    Bukhatir is back.


  30. #30 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 4:42 PM


    I agree with all 3 sentences in your comment.

  31. #31 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 4:48 PM

    Malak has been taken out of his misery. He loves to prod outside the off stump and nudge the ball to third man. This time he nudged it too fine and was caught behind. This has been a great weakness on his part.

  32. #32 by Awas on April 22, 2009 - 5:04 PM

    It looks like Misbah is playing a test match.

    I fink Fawad Alam should have been included. Either Malik or Misbah should make way for him. They need to look for and groom a solid option.

  33. #33 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 5:24 PM

    Pakistan have unnecessarily dug a hole for themselves. Malik and Misbah should have played more positively. Inititally both were playing like tailenders. You can’t always expect Younis to do everything right. The onus was definitely on Malik and Misbah.

    Misbah might take the team to victory, but his batting has been completely negative. He has also given chances to the Aussies plenty of times with close catches and LBW appeals. I don’t know why he likes living on the edge.

  34. #34 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 5:36 PM

    Nasir Jamshed has a problem with footwork. My comment was not appreciated by certain individuals when I said months ago that I don’t see him impressing against good sides.

    Either he doesn’t use his feet, or when he uses them he uses them very wrongly.

    He got out to an ordinary delivery from Symonds and his feet placement was atrocious.

    If he is not feeling well, why was he sent to bat?

    If he is unfit, why was he chosen in the squad in the first place?

    After performing poorly in the RBS domestic Cup who chose him and for what reason?

    Khurram Manzoor and Khalid Latif played agressively and were completely fit. Why were they ignored?

  35. #35 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 5:44 PM

    LOL @ Misbah…

    On an almost full length delivery from a left hander bowling around the wicket, Misbah decided to expose his middle and leg stump and played a strange shot to the leg side.

    He could have very easily got bowled. Waqar also said the same thing.

    I don’t understand what problem he has and why he has to play stupid shots like that.

  36. #36 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 6:09 PM


    Afridi said, “Abdul Qadir gave me a good time…..”


  37. #37 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 6:23 PM


    Yes Ajmal was very good. His doosra is a good ball, he does not disguise it that well but it spun quite a bit.

    I am pretty sure that if Hussey, Ponting and Johnson were playing, they would have given Pakistan a difficult time. But it doesn’t matter because winning against a second string team is also a big achievement.

    Did you see how ineffective Akhtar was? It seemed like his presence did not affect the team at all.

    Since Akmal batted well as opener, they should let him open with Butt and use Fawad Alam in Akmal’s position. Since Malik and Misbah who form the middle order were very negative today, they need Fawad Alam to support these two batsmen. The batting is being strengthened and they will also get a new bowler, although in my view Alam is mainly a batsman who can bowl a few overs here and there.

  38. #38 by khansahab on April 22, 2009 - 8:51 PM

    This should be the team in the 2nd ODI:


  39. #39 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 22, 2009 - 10:29 PM

    ALTHOUGH PAKISTAN WON THE MATCH BUT……… Their batting is below par. The next match won’t be as easy as this one. I am sure some of you must be wondering where I may have disappeared? I was watching the match live on TV (CBN) and then I had something important at work and had to go when Pakistan were 87 for 3. I have recorded the match on PVR and watched the rest of it after coming home.

    My observation about YK’s captaincy was similar to that of Awas. Why did he not bring Shoaib Malik straightaway instead of the fast bowlers? Australia were 122 for 9 and because of that poor decision the last pair added 46 runs. Pakistan still don’t have that killer instinct. They should have bowled out Australia under 130. I was also thinking the same thing as Awas, that Misbah was playing test? 9 runs in 33 balls? But, as the expression goes “All is well that ends well.”

    And, Misbah should avoid playing premeditated shots. He was lucky not to get bowled by Nathan Bracken, he moved away on the off side to play a premeditated shot on the leg side and all his wickets were exposed, he was lucky that the cross bat shot got connected. Waqar said the same thing and Khansahab also mentioned about it. Misbah should understand that in order to be a finisher he must not play such premeditated shots.

    LOL @ Afridi for saying Qadir gave him good time.
    These guys don’t know what they are talking. YK at the post match speech was blabbering, there was no reference to the context. Sawaal Kuch, Jawaab Kuch. And, I agree that it was Salahuddin who said that spinners will play a big role but now Intekhab Alam takes the credit for being man on the spot.

    Shoaib Akhtar should be kicked off, sent back and should not play for Pakistan in any form of the game. Including Rao Ifti was also a mistake. Tanvir and Arafat should be included in the team replacing these two.

    Since Nasir Jamshed has injured himself for diving and not taking the catch he should be replaced by Fawad Alam. These are the three changes that I recommend in the team for the next match.

    When Shoaib Akhtar dropped the catch of Shane Watson, you should have seen Afridi’s face. He didn’t know whether to get angry or to smile. It must be very agonizing for him that they have been dropping catches of his bowling regularly. After YK took a good catch of Afridi’s bowling his luck changed and he bowled exceedingly well, he was definitely at his best. And Ajmal complimented him from the other end. They both destroyed Australia completely. BUT, watch out Pakistanis, the second match will not be a piece of cake. Symonds, MJ Clarke they will all come back strongly with the bat and the ball as well.

  40. #40 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 22, 2009 - 10:30 PM

    khansahab I agree with your team selection except that I want Akhtar to be out and Arafat to be in.

  41. #41 by khansahab on April 23, 2009 - 8:54 AM

    Church attacked; 7 Bajrang Dal activists arrested

    Nagpur , Apr 20: Seven Bajrang Dal activists were arrested today in connection with the attack on a church in Saoner, about 36 kms from here, during a weekly prayer service, police said.
    They were remanded in police custody till April 24 by a local court.

    The arrested were Uddhav Choudhary (34), Vinod Bagde (28), Umesh Astontankar (36), Ajay Chatle (41), Vikram Gaye (34), Ramesh Dube (27) and Bhagwati Janawar (69).

    About 20 Bajrang Dal activists armed with sticks, barged into the Douglas memorial church in Saoner around 11 am on Sunday when the priest was conducting the morning prayer, police said.

    Scared of the attackers, nearly 100 people who were attending the service soon dispersed, while the right wing activists went on a rampage and destroyed church furniture including chairs and tables, head priest of the church Father Ramred Paul M Sakhardevkar told PTI.

    The Bajrang Dal had lodged a complaint with the local police station that some religious conversion was being conducted in the church, and within no time they attacked it, police said.

    Meanwhile, Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) secretary Hemant Tambekar said the incident was unfortunate.

    Security has been beefed up in the vicinity of the church, police added.

  42. #42 by Abdul on April 23, 2009 - 9:27 AM

    Well played Pakistan !………….

    Here is the fall of wickets……

    Afridi was on fire. The flight, guile, drift and variation he bowled with was exceptional as demonstrated in those bowled dismissals. Credit to Ajmal who also bowled mysteriously and economically. After all the criticisms we raised over his selection he proved to us that he is “international cricket material” and can make an impact after all.

    A victory is a victory but Pakistan should learn from that late onslaught which was conceded. On another day the margin could have been the difference between a win and defeat.

  43. #43 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 23, 2009 - 9:33 AM

    RAMIZ RAJA, before the commencement of the match, was asking Boycott to express his comments about Shoaib Akhtar, Younus Khan and Shahid Afridi which he did and later Boycott inquired Ramiz about the new comers. The way Ramiz was acting innocent was a kinda prod and poke technique and only wanted to hear some criticism from Boycott. But, Ramiz failed to trap Boycott against Afridi and YK.

    Boycott did criticize Shoaib Akhtar for his “BadBoy” behaviour but he praised YK and Afridi both. Ramiz said something like this: “Don’t you think Jeff, Shahid Afridi with 272 matches – given numerous chances to play – in fact more chances than anyone else and yet his performance is a big question mark?”

    Boycott replied. “That will be when he will retire, but right now he is still a very good player, he is an extraordinary player, a very gifted all-rounder, his bowling is exceptionally good and his batting is under scrutiny and that is because too much is expected from him but that is Shaheeed Afridi, when he gets going he is unstoppable. He is one of the rare players in the world and must be in all forms of the game for Pakistan and I must say that Pakistan is LOOOKY (lucky) to have him in their team.”

    And then he inquired Ramiz by asking, what do you know about this new off spinner Ajmal Saeed? And, immediately Ramiz responded by saying: “He is rated very highly in the camp. He was first spotted by Misbah ul Haq and he has played too many A class matches and performed very, very well, he is an excellent bowler and he also bowls doosra.”

    Ramiz Raja’s job as an expert commentator is to be fair towards all and not biased for a few. He was spilling sweet venom against Akhtar and in the same breath he talked about YK and Afridi, assuming Boycott will continue in the same fashion as he did in case of the Actor. But, he didn’t and shocked Ramiz.

    Ramiz your sinister comments and your “BHOLA PUN” are very obvious, may be it is only you who think that you are as clever as a sly fox and no one would notice your biased agenda, then you are mistaken. If Afridi had not taken 6 wickets in this match, even with that 24 runs he scored in 13 balls meant nothing and Afridi haters would have pounced at him and called for axing him.

    Shoaib Malik also scored 24 runs but in 53 balls but, no one will say anything. Misbah played a test match innings and added too much pressure on the team and also tried to play a suicidal premeditated shot, but was lucky this time not to get out and stayed till the end and they are calling him a hero who saved the match? BULL.

  44. #44 by Abdul on April 23, 2009 - 11:14 AM

    Cricket (playing) sucks now days especially when your out of form like me !

  45. #45 by Awas on April 23, 2009 - 12:23 PM


    There is one good thing about Boycott, he is never biased and that’s why he is the best commentators around followed by Nasir Hossein, David Gower and Dean Jones.

    Some years ago when everyone in the UK was calling two W’s cheats because of their art of reverse sing, Boycott was the lone voice in saying “they have special ability, forget about a cricket ball, even if you put an orange in their hands to bowl at you they will still take a wicket”.


    “…Pakistan should learn from that late onslaught which was conceded. On another day the margin could have been the difference between a win and defeat”.

    Well said!

  46. #46 by khansahab on April 23, 2009 - 12:42 PM


    I’m agree about Ajmal and his mysterious bowling. I wonder what he eats? Can you unravel the mystery behind Ajmal and give us an explanation?

    I’m wonder if you saw his doosra which came from the back of the hand. He bowled it like how in Pakastan many bowl an off cutter, where you twist the ball with your thumb, index and middle finger and bowl from the back of the hand. Do you I am agree with me?

    Javed A Khan

    Do you remember a few weeks ago we discussed Ramiz Raja’s biased commentary in a thread? Ever since Ramiz has started doing his Ramiz Lounge show he has become very biased. His friends who appear on the show are so uncouth. I had enormous respect for Ramiz but ever since Shoaib Malik became captain Ramiz has become a biased fanatic.

    Afridi won the match singlehandedly but I have not seen the praise which he deserves. There is no doubt he is one of the few players in the team who can turn a match around with their sole performance.

  47. #47 by khansahab on April 23, 2009 - 12:49 PM

    Hopes : Afridi the key

    Pakistan star Shahid Afridi is the man to stop if Australia are to win their five-match one-day series in the UAE, according to all-rounder James Hopes.

    Afridi took six wickets in the first match and blasted 24 runs, including five boundaries, off just 16 balls to ensure Pakistan enjoyed a 1-0 series lead.

    “We’re going to have to bat better against him, we exposed our tail to him and when he gets a sniff in a game of cricket, he’s very competitive and he can do what he did on Wednesday night,” said Hopes.

    But while Hopes conceded how dangerous Afridi was, he said Australia had to do their part to keep him from stamping his authority on the contest.

    He added: “The trick for us is not to give him that sniff to take over a game.

    “It was a 50-50 game, he came in and got 24 off 16 balls and took the game away from us.

    “We’ve got to expect that that’s the way he bats, some days he’s going to come off.”

    However, despite producing a paltry total while batting first, Hopes drew positives out of the match, saying: “We came very close to defending 168 last night and I think that says a lot for our bowling attack and how our bowlers can bowl against this team.”

    Australia lost eight wickets to spin out of a possible nine (with Shaun Marsh being run out), and Hopes thinks it will prove to be a decisive factor in the series.

    He added: “We don’t come over to Dubai or Sharjah or India or Pakistan or Sri Lanka and think we’re going to get pitches like the Gabba and the WACA. If history shows us anything, I think Australian teams learn the more they play against the spinners.”

  48. #48 by Awas on April 23, 2009 - 1:01 PM

    Now let’s be fair, Intikhab Alam indeed was the one who said that our spinners would do well. I found this out reading Osman Samiuddin’s good article today on the first ODI. See a link on his article on Cricinfo dated 10/04/09. This is what Intikhab Alam had said:

    I am pleased to see the Australians lost wickets against spinners and we too have three quality spinners. If the wickets assist slow bowlers we have a good chance,”

    His quote was during Aus v SA series.
    Whatever Intikhab Alam is these days but his views are not surprising coming from him as he himself was a spinner once.

  49. #49 by khansahab on April 23, 2009 - 1:03 PM

    Miandad blames conspiracy for Pakistan isolation

    DUBAI – Pakistan legend Javed Miandad said Thursday a “conspiracy” seeking to undermine his country was behind its increasing isolation in world cricket.

    Pakistan were left to play their latest cricket series at the neutral venues of Dubai and Abu Dhabi after Australia refused to tour the troubled country, describing it as a high risk for their players.

    And the International Cricket Council (ICC) last week endorsed that view by stripping the country of its share of 2011 World Cup matches following last month’s deadly terrorist attacks on the Sri Lankan team bus in Lahore.

    But Miandad, a director general of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), told AFP: “I am convinced that it’s nothing but a conspiracy and some groups want to isolate Pakistan.

    Miandad accepted Pakistan’s reputation as cricket venue had been damaged by the Lahore attacks, which left seven Sri Lankan players and a coach wounded while eight policemen were killed.

    But the security situation would have improved in time for the World Cup fixtures two years away, he said.

    “I think the ICC took a decision in haste,” said Miandad, who played a record 124 Tests for Pakistan and was regarded as one of the greatest batsmen in the world. “The decision (to move the World Cup matches) has shocked us.”

    The ICC awarded the 2011 World Cup to India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh while Australia and New Zealand will host the event in 2015.

    “If safety was their concern then the 2011 World Cup should have been given to Australia and New Zealand and the Asian countries could have hosted the 2015 World Cup,” said Miandad.

    The cricket star believes a conspiracy was hatched in 2001 when teams started to refuse tours to Pakistan.

    “First it was the West Indies, then Australia,” said Miandad of the two teams who forced Pakistan to play at neutral venues in 2002.

    “There are some groups with a monopoly and they are playing the game. Today it is Pakistan, tomorrow it could be some other country. I am sad that the Asian counties did not back Pakistan and think that they can also face the same situation one day.”

    Miandad said the PCB had been striving to improve Pakistan’s image—on and off the field.

    We did a wonderful job by staging a safe Test in Karachi but unfortunately things went wrong in Lahore. The same thing happened in Mumbai, India, but England did not have problems on touring,” Miandad said, referring to England’s India tour after terrorist attacks on Mumbai in November last year left over 160 people dead.

    “It’s double standards,” he went on. “The cricket world has isolated Pakistan and it’s not in the best interest of the game.

  50. #50 by khansahab on April 23, 2009 - 1:06 PM

    Too little, too late?

    Dawn Editoril

    Thursday, 23 Apr, 2009

    PML-N leader Nawaz Sharif has conceded that the Taliban are ‘now threatening to get out of Swat … So we’ve got to avoid that situation’. His comments provide a distant ray of hope in Pakistan’s currently grim situation, where barbaric criminals make a mockery of the state and everything it stands for.

    Therefore, notwithstanding Mr Sharif’s and his party’s traditional alignment with the religious right, the belated recognition that the TTP’s manoeuvrings constitute a serious danger to the nation’s sovereignty must be appreciated. Supported by so-called peace broker Sufi Mohammad’s TNSM, the Taliban are no longer a threat but a grotesque reality. They already occupy certain sections of Pakistan’s territory where they formulate and enforce their own ‘laws’ that are neither just nor have anything to do with the country’s system of justice.

    As such, Mr Sharif’s statement may prove a case of too little, too late. The Taliban have already taken control of Buner and adjacent areas such as Mansehra are in serious danger of being overrun. The writ of the government weakens by the hour, while the terrorists are steadily emboldened. Yet the state and its institutions — including the military — have so far shown an appalling lack of commitment or wherewithal to force back the swarm.

    In the face of the Taliban’s growing list of atrocities, the government’s silence has been deafening and the army’s lack of success inexplicably humiliating. Success has been claimed in negotiating with the terrorists but there is no evidence to support this. Far from laying down arms and allowing the government to re-establish administrative control, the Taliban advertise with impunity the goal of enforcing their own brand of Sharia across the country.

    The time in which to turn back the tide is fast running out. It is of vital importance that other political leaders and parties recognise the threat posed by the Taliban and their expansionist agenda. A clear line has been drawn and members of both the government and the opposition — and the citizenry — must make clear which side they are on.

    The religious right and their political parties are of particular importance; they must stop disseminating ill thought-out rhetoric on the virtues of a system that has so far never been defined in terms other than the vaguely ideological. The steady indoctrination of the citizenry by the religious right was one of the factors that allowed the Taliban to garner so much power and support in the first place.

    The Taliban are using the banner of religion to mask their agenda for control of the country. That agenda, and their methods, must be condemned in the strongest possible terms and opposed through every means possible. Stripped of the guise of religion, the Taliban’s activities are clearly revealed as treasonable and seditious offences.

  51. #51 by Theossa on April 23, 2009 - 1:20 PM

    It was an important win by Pakistan yesterday. Although they didn’t get any style points during their run chase, winning the game on a pitch that offered some assistance to bowlers was satisfactory. Afridi’s spell was destructive and with his bowling constantly improving, I would rank him among the best spinners around. I guess after having a good time with Qadir he was feeling relieved. His bowling had a positive effect on his batting as well and he didn’t seem bothered by the Pakistan’s tricky situation.

    Chasing 168 in 44 overs seem somewhat insignificant but if I were Younis I would make Pakistan win the game in 50th over because rusty Pakistan needs match practice. The way I see it Misbah and Malik although played very slowly but will only improve in the remaining matches. The most surprising aspect of the game was Akmal’s sharp wicket keeping. Since I didn’t spare any chance to criticize his work behind the wicket I would applaud his yesterday’s performance and I hope it wasn’t a fluke but rather improvement.

    I think Younis did the right thing by introducing fast bowling to take the last wicket. It didn’t work yesterday but historically fast bowlers clean the tail very quick, especially when one considers the Yorker capabilities of Gul and Akhtar. It is usually spinners who get spanked for runs by tail enders.

    For the remaining games I would hope for Pakistan winning the toss and batting first. This is a nervous team and bowling second and defending a descent total is their strength especially considering the good bowling form of Afridi and Ajmal. Akhter has been in and out of the team and lacks stamina to complete his 10 overs with consistency so he is a question mark. Omer didn’t look sharp as usual but I’m sure he’ll perform much better in the remaining games. Personally, I would like to see Sohaill and Fawad as the starters for the remaining games and I really hope they get to play at least a couple of matches.

  52. #52 by Abdul on April 23, 2009 - 1:26 PM

    Khan : “I’m wonder if you saw his doosra which came from the back of the hand. He bowled it like how in Pakastan many bowl an off cutter, where you twist the ball with your thumb, index and middle finger and bowl from the back of the hand. Do you I am agree with me?”

    Well I only saw the fall of wickets and therefore saw that Clarke doosra dismissal .Yes fascinating stuff to say the least! Before I can analyse this delivery which u wanted me to, I need to see more of the delivery rather than just that single dismissal. I’m not sure what u were exactly saying but if u were asking me if I bowl a doosra the answer is NO as it’s an off spinners invention which originated from the great Saqlain himself.

    But what does this mean : Do you I am agree with me?”

    It doesn’t make any sense ????????

  53. #53 by khansahab on April 23, 2009 - 1:32 PM

    All-rounder Afridi prefers runs to wickets

    DUBAI (AFP) — Pakistan all-rounder Shahid Afridi said Thursday he preferred scoring runs to taking wickets, as his fans liked him more for hitting boundaries than dismissing batsmen.

    The 29-year-old leg-spinner took a career best 6-38 in his 10 mesmerising overs against Australia Wednesday before hitting a fiery 16-ball 24 to help Pakistan win by four wickets in the first of five one-day matches.

    Afridi, assisted by off-spinner Saeed Ajmal (2-19) triggered a middle-order collapse as Australia were bowled out for 168. Pakistan achieved the target in the 45th over for the loss of six wickets.

    It was the best bowling by a Pakistani bowler in one-day cricket against Australia, bettering the 6-59 by paceman Waqar Younus at Leeds in 2001. Afridi’s previous best of 5-11 was against Kenya at Birmingham in 2004.

    Despite the feat, Afridi said he would like to come good with the bat.

    “My fans like me for my batting, hitting fours and sixes,” Afridi told AFP. “I would love to score more runs because this is my trademark and people want me to hit more fours and sixes.”

    Afridi is the most popular player in the United Arab Emirates, where the expatriates from Pakistan adore him as they also come from the same North West Frontier Province as the all-rounder does.

    “I like these people and want to entertain them. Whenever I have played in the Emirates, people have given me the kind of adoration which is very unique and heart-warming,” said Afridi.

    The hard-hitting batsman — who holds the record for the fastest one-day century, against Sri Lanka in Nairobi in 1997 off just 37 balls — has been under pressure for not performing with the bat of late.

    His selection for the current series is seen as a trial before the Twenty20 World Cup to be held in England in June.

    Afridi said he would love to help Pakistan win this series and then the Twenty20 World Cup.

    “Doing well against Australia is great because they are a very good team, so I hope to continue with that and then focus my attention on the Twenty20 World Cup, because last time we lost the final,” said Afridi.

    Pakistan finished runners-up to arch-rivals India in the inaugural Twenty20 World Cup, held in South Africa two years ago.

    “It is always a wish, a dream to be part of a World Cup winning team. We had bitter memories of the World Cup in the West Indies, so we want to win for our people who are deprived of cricket,” said Afridi.

    Pakistan were ousted in the first round of the 2007 World Cup, held in the West Indies, after they were shocked by outsiders Ireland.

  54. #54 by khansahab on April 23, 2009 - 1:34 PM

    Abdul @ comment 54

    It might make not make any sense to you, but English is not my mother tongue so I will never be perfect in it.

    As far as I am concerned, that phrase means, “Do you I am agree with me”. I can’t simplify it any further. Why do you struggle to understand it?

  55. #55 by khansahab on April 23, 2009 - 1:37 PM


    Great to see you back after a hiatus. I agree with everything you say in your comment, spon on analysis.

    Younis was right in saying they need match practice, but the way Malik and Misbah were playing didn’t seem like match practice to me. It is not that they were SLOW, it was their body language, their shot selection etc. Misbah was blocking most balls and he was having trouble finding gaps. He was also offering chances to the Aussies, he played a few dangerous shots.

  56. #56 by Abdul on April 23, 2009 - 1:39 PM

    Must watch tragedy………

    “Do you I am agree with me”. Right do u mean do u agree ? Over what ?

    Just to add Ajaml’s bowling action is rather suspicious. Do u agree ?

  57. #57 by khansahab on April 23, 2009 - 1:44 PM


    I meant, “Do you I am agree with me!!!!”

    What I am saying there is basic English!!!!!!

    Why are you harassing me?

  58. #58 by Awas on April 23, 2009 - 2:00 PM


    Wonderful fair and balanced analyses…I enjoyed reading it.

  59. #59 by Theossa on April 23, 2009 - 2:25 PM


    This time I am agree with Khansahab, why could you not understand, “Do you I am agree with me?” I hope I could translate this simple and as it is sentence in other words but essentially Khansahab is asking if you am agree with him. That’s it, hope that helped you out.

  60. #60 by khansahab on April 23, 2009 - 3:48 PM

    Butt accused of wasting money on sending officials to Dubai

    Karachi, April 23: Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Ejaz Butt has been accused of spending huge money for the travel and stay of PCB officials in Dubai for the Australia series despite claims that the board has not been in the best of financial health.

    According to a former official, despite claims that the PCB had been left in a financial mess by the previous regime, Butt and his men are spending more than one crore and twelve lakh rupees for travelling and staying of its officials in Dubai and Abu Dhabi.

    The total amount under the head of daily allowances given or to be given to PCB employees for the Australia series is around USD 6,75,00 dollars (around Rs 5,427,000), sources said.

    Butt`s brother-in-law Mohammad Naeem will get USD 13,500 as daily allowance,
    Director International Cricket Zakir Khan USD 14,000,
    Chief Operating officer Saleem Altaf USD 6,000,
    General Manger Marketing Khurram Malik and Director Academies Aamir Sohail USD 7,350 each,
    selectors Abdul Qadir and Shoaib Mohammad USD 1,470 each,
    besides USD 5,000 on Butt`s stay in Dubai, according to sources.

    The PCB has also decided to send its governing council members to Dubai and Abu Dhabi for the matches on an all expenses paid trip besides inviting other dignitaries including sports minister and his family and the Governor of Punjab who has, however, declined it due to his prior commitments, sources said.

    Butt has also been accused of nepotism and favoritism by appointing his own relatives to key positions in the board.

    A former PCB official said Butt`s claim of transparency could not be taken seriously after he appointed his brother-in-law Mohammad Naeem as honorary financial advisor, his sister-in-law Shireen Javed as head of the women`s wing and a nephew to a specially created position in the board.

    Naeem had remained in the board before parting ways in acrimonious circumstances while Javed had also filed a case against the board over women`s cricket affairs.

  61. #61 by Theossa on April 23, 2009 - 5:58 PM

    Khansahab @ 62

    Why it doesn’t surprise me at all. There was never a check and balance in the entire country and there will be no check and balance in PCB. Thanks to Musharaf, with media freedom, at least we can read about it and may be an embarrassed establishment can take some action since their sludge and terd have surfaced.

  62. #62 by khansahab on April 23, 2009 - 10:32 PM

    Accoring to sources Shoaib Akhtar has caught a viral infection and will be rested, whereas Nasir Jamshed is unfit.

    Tanvir is expected to replace Akhtar while Shahzad is expected to replace Jamshed.

    Looks like another day on the bench for Fawad Alam.

  63. #63 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 12:33 AM


    They should not give stupid reasons in dropping Shoaib Akhtar that he caught a viral infection, this is all Bull Chitt. He is a spent force and a drag and must be jettisoned. They must not hesitate in calling a spade, a spade. And yes, its sad that they keep Fawad Alam out of the team for NO reason. There is no need to replace Jamshed with Shahzad, because Butt and Akmal opened the innings and that’s fine. You need depth in batting and Fawad Alam will be more than handy with his bat and ball both, so they must bring in Fawad Alam as Jamshed’s replacement. It is really a waste of talent and a demoralizing effect on the youngster who is such a good player that he should be in the team without a second thought.

    Nasir Jamshed got injured while attempting to take a catch in the third slip, gully region the ball didn’t carry and he fell on his chest, dunno where he got injured but soon after he was limping. At this age he is already chubby like Inzamam and to me he doesn’t look very athletic which is a shame. Like Saeed Ajmal is also a lousy fielder and has a short history of mis-fielding and dropping catches.

    Btw, I was surprised at the reaction of Punjabi speaking people, they are not mentioning a word about Shahid Afridi’s 6 wickets and 24 runs in 16 balls, but they are talking only about Saeed Ajmal. He is now the talk of the town. Yes, his figures say that he gave 19 runs and took 2 wickets. The reason is, from the other end Afridi was taking wickets at a regular interval, sometimes two in a over. So were no set batsmen and, the new batsmen were not scoring runs against both spinners. Containing runs is fine but, it is not the only criteria, taking wickets is more important. This is the first time Saeed Ajmal has taken two wickets for 19 odd runs, it is good to encourage him but, not worship him for one solo performance.

    This is exactly what they did to Asaf by calling him Sheikhupura’s McGrath and then Sohail Tanvir as new Wasim Akram and blah, blah. And, Ajmal has taken just 2 wickets and for that they say O Mayeee GAAD he is a TARRY FEEK BAALER. Emaan di Kasam Munda inna Qudarti baaler hai kay iss da jawab koi nai.

  64. #64 by M. Y.. Kasim on April 24, 2009 - 1:33 AM

    Well, Congats to all of you,

    It was expected that Shoaib Akhtar would break down after three or four overs. Its good to see that they dropped him for the next game.(on whatever flimsy excuse!!)

    Like Khansahab suggested, it will be a sensible decision to include Sohail Tnceer and Ahmed Shehzad. Similarly they should include Fawad Alam in place of Rao Iftikhar since the pitch is favoring spin and in any case, Rao made no impression on the Aussie batsmen.

  65. #65 by Mohammed Munir on April 24, 2009 - 8:40 AM

    I agree with Awas, Theossa’s comment no. 53 was a treat to read. Most balanced, well thought, very fair overall analysis and giving good explanations.

    It’s unfortunate that in enthusiasm of criticism we are all missing to celebrate a rare and well deserved Pakistani win, no matter how it came.

    Alas, I would have also loved to see some positive commentary on the new ground, Dubai facilities, well cordinated security arrangements, cricket-crazy Pakistan fans in Dubai/ UAE, state-of-the-art new stadium and pumped-up and glamorous inaugural event.

    For me the most important thing was the Pakistani win !!

    I, for one, will be the happiest if we win the series without Fawad Alam or any other player playing a single match, rather then loosing with their best individual performances.

  66. #66 by Zak on April 24, 2009 - 12:03 PM

    absolutely spot on mate!! exactly my thoughts…brilliant blog

  67. #67 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 12:57 PM

    Does Pakistan pose a global threat? Hillary Clinton.

    Here is a link read it:

    The amazing thing is, ALL the Indian Bloggers on the BBC are agreeing with her and not only that, they are saying that, “what India has been saying all along, the US is saying now.” What a shame. This is just the real side of the Indians, they never miss an opportunity to nail Pakistan and damage it at any cost.

  68. #68 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 1:01 PM

    Misbah out once again trying to play a predetermined shot. When is he going to learn? Afridi is a Pathan and 27, Misbah is an MBA, a matured 34 years old and has been playing silly shots since he came to the lime light.

  69. #69 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 1:10 PM

    Congrats Butt on his 50. Butt is the future of Pakistan cricket. It shows someone with education and good attitude is bound to succeed in cricket.

    Butt and Tanvir are 2 players who could be future greats if they keep a check on their attitude.

  70. #70 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 1:17 PM

    “I, for one, will be the happiest if we win the series without Fawad Alam or any other player playing a single match, rather then loosing with their best individual performances.”

    Munir: What a farcical and Mullah type emotional statement you have made. First of all you are picking on Fawad Alam only by saying, you would be the happiest man if he doesn’t play. Secondly, if matches are won by “fishful thinking” then you don’t need good players at all. If you wish to win, then you have to choose your best team and that is not about cricket alone. It applies in every game and in every situation.

    The team selection is very poor. Shoaib Akhtar’s inclusion in the team was a mistake and after seeing how he performed in the first game, including him in the second game is a blunder. Sohail Tanvir or Yasir Arafat should have been taken. But, they wanted to rely on the old and experienced horse which is nothing but a spent force. If that is what they want, then why did they choose Ahmad Shahzad over Fawad Alam today?

    Ramiz is playing his sinister role in the commentary box with Boycott by saying, ” Australians should get Afridi out soon and Butt has played a magnificent innings and he should stay till the end. ” Why?? Why this Sauntela Pun? What was he trying to imply here?

  71. #71 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 1:24 PM

    Waqar’s bloopers of the day so far………. 😀

    1. Once again he said, “There was “A GRASS” on the pitch on the first day Buttta not anymore.
    2. I don’t understand how Younus Khan could run when the ball was in the hands of “THE CLARKey” (MJ CLarke)
    3. The Asad Rauf took his time in thinking.
    4. Saeed Ajmal bowled incredibly well yesterday (day before yesterday) and took 3 wickets (actually 2)
    5. Shahid Afridi scored quickfire 26 in 19 balls, he actually scored 24 in 16.

    We can make silly mistakes here, but he is a commentator and before he opens his mouth he should know the facts about “the yesterday’s match.” 😀

  72. #72 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 1:26 PM

    Misbah can’t bat properly. Malik could never bat properly.

    Still no room for Fawad Alam in the team?

    Misbah keeps playing stupid and premeditated shots. He is playing as the 2nd best batsman in the team and if he keeps playing such shots, he should be kicked out.

    This has happened in the past when the middle order has collapsed and Fawad Alam has still been sitting on the bench. I think it will happen in this series too unless Younis realises a change is needed.

  73. #73 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 1:27 PM

    Salman Butt out on 57 in 112 balls. What a great TEST match innings he played. Congratulations Butt Saab you have guaranteed your spot for the next 10 matches.

  74. #74 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 1:43 PM

    Zak from Oxford

    Thank you for the kind praises.

    Please tell us a bit more about yourself? Hope to see more of you in the future.

  75. #75 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 2:07 PM

    What BS is Ramiz saying?

    “Afridi is saying something to Gul……they both speak the same language, Pushto… communication can’t be a problem”…..

    What was the need to make this remark?

    On Ramiz’s show he starts talking in Punjabi with his uncouth, uncultivated friends. Millions of people watch his show, some of them won’t be able to understand Punjabi. But does anyone point it out?

    Afridi considers Urdu to be his mother tongue although he can speak Pushto fluently.

    Punjabi is the language the Pakistan team communicates in. That is the language they speak in federal government offices, in the Army, almost everywhere in the country. But does anyone say things like, “Communication won’t be a problem” or any weird remark like that?

    Now Afridi is out, Ramiz seems so delighted. I can’t believe how happy he is sounding at Afridi’s dismissal!

  76. #76 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 2:12 PM

    Butt and Akmal played similar shots in getting out. Afridi is Afridi what a silly way to get out, Hopes frustrated him and in the end Hopes succeeded. Still not a bad score from Afridi (41 of 40 balls) especially comparing his past batting performances. He has to excel in bowling again, otherwise this total is not that big to defend. Actor on the ground and there are a few comedy of errors.

  77. #77 by Awas on April 24, 2009 - 2:14 PM


    To be honest “Butt Saab” did alright this time in comparison to others. I agree with khansahab he played well. I have been watching the match for the first time and I can see as the commentators have been saying too, it’s a very different low slow pitch where normal ODI score of 250-300 is not possible. Even Afridi after getting a lucky escape realised how the pitch is behaving and played sensibly.

    I can understand Munir’s point about Fawad to an extent. Agreed that selection should be made on merit but he is no Lara, Tendulkar or Miandad i.e. not of same calibre to compulsorily warrant his inclusion in the team, at least not yet. However, he may well prove to be better than Malik or Misbah.

  78. #78 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 2:18 PM

    LOL at Akhtar destroying the Australian attack.

    Well done you loser!


  79. #79 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 2:20 PM

    Awas – I don’t agree with that notion of commentators or whoever, because as an opener if you play such an innings you build a lot of pressure for the middle order and the rest of the batsmen. The point is Butt took 112 balls to score 57 whereas, Afridi took only 40 balls to score 41 and now SHOIAB ACTOR who seems to have been selected in the team as a BATSMAN is proving that the pitch is not all that low and slow. All you need is to have that attitude and in case of Butt his attitude is only to play safe, thats what Butt and Malik always do. The Actor is hitting well, and just now Umar Gul departed.

  80. #80 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 2:21 PM


    The loser played a similar innings in the WC in South Africa………. and what a catch Actor is OUT

  81. #81 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 2:26 PM

    207 ALL OUT in 46.1 overs. The batting needs to be improved and Pakistan cannot repeat their bowling performance against Australia, its not easy for them. I think Australia has better chances of winning this game.

  82. #82 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 2:32 PM


    I agree about Butt, in that he played with responsibility today and played better than most batsmen.

    However, I don’t think anyone is saying Fawad Alam is the calibre of Lara. What is being said is that there are 1 or 2 out of form players who can be replaced and a player who has been performing for 3 years in the domestic circuit should be given a chance.

    The treatment of Fawad Alam and Sarfraz Ahmed has been highly mysterious, in fact inexplicable. Esp during those days when Pakistan needed a replacement straightaway for Mohamamd Yousuf, and Akmal was dropping 2 catches every match.

  83. #83 by Awas on April 24, 2009 - 2:36 PM


    I take your point about the effect of slow openers. However, neither can a team comprise of solely Afridi and Actor type batsmen. It would produce hit and miss results but can never guarantee success consistently. A balance is necessary in a team.

  84. #84 by Awas on April 24, 2009 - 2:50 PM


    I have always expressed the views that Fawad Alam is a deserving case to be picked (after your discovery) for the team and agreed many times that he seemed to have better credentials than some of the youngsters picked in his place. I had too hoped he would get picked early on in this series. Yes, quite inexplicable!

    The point here though just was Munir’s comment about Fawad Alam…somewhat different matter. I read Munir’s comment in a different context than thinking that Munir would be the happiest man if Fawad doesn’t play. Maybe just a matter of interpretation and perception!

  85. #85 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 2:56 PM


    Thanks for the clarification. I read Munir sahab’s comment in the exact same light as you did. My slight concern was just that no one has claimed Fawad Alam is the best batsman in the world. His feats in domestic cricket have been unmatched and he deserves more chances than any of the current batsmen in the team. That is the argument.

    Regarding Munir sahab, it is very clear he does not feel Fawad Alam should replace any player. I admit Munir sahab does not have any specific sinister agenda against Fawad, but at the same time he is not supportive of Fawad, too.

  86. #86 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 3:18 PM


    Malik is a king also against India and Sri Lanka 🙂

    Misbah got very lucky in the 1st match, he was too tentative and survived a close LBW appeal and also nicked one behind which fell just short of the keeper.

    I don’t think I’ve said anywhere that Misbah is a worse player than Malik.

  87. #87 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 4:00 PM

    Both Gul and Actor bowling too many loose balls and giving away too many runs. The spinners must come in now. 49/1 after 9 overs. They are playing much faster than the Pakistanis.

  88. #88 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 4:05 PM


    Afridi and Ajmal should have been introduced. Rao should have been the 5th bowling change.

    Rao will take the match away from Pakistan if he bowls 5 overs in this spell without spinners being introduced. Younis should have introduced them after the 10th over.

  89. #89 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 4:34 PM

    Imran Khan was asked what advice he would give to cricket administrators in Pakastan. He responded by talking about the War on Terror.

    In the end the girl said thanks to him and his response was a modest “OK”.

    It could have been “You’re welcome” to say the least?

  90. #90 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 4:38 PM

    IMRAN KHAN took advantage of the little air time he got and talked about politics and his party. And this chirpy Mayanti d/o Damyanti was very proud to interview him ( and why not?)

    Miandad is there, Imran is there, Waqar and Ramiz as well as Aamir Churial they are all there, so who is missing? Wasim Chakram?

    This match has already slipped away from Pakistan. I don’t think there will be a repeat encore for Pakistan.

  91. #91 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 4:40 PM


    yeah, I noticed he should have said you are welcome or thank you in return instead of a simple OK.

  92. #92 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 4:43 PM

    I was pleased to see Tony Creig and the other commentator (I think it was Dean Jones) speak very highly of Imran despite Imran’s vehement criticism of America.

    Now the Aussies are coming on to the front foot and playing Afridi and Ajmal. Unless you are an expert on backfoot, it is always better to play on the frontfoot. They are looking more positive today, Afridi and Ajmal need to improvise and get their wickets.

    Waqar said Aussies are more scared of Ajmal as opposed to Afridi. I agree Ajmal concedes less runs, but Afridi I think is more attacking. He literally forces you to play poor shots on his bowling.

  93. #93 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 4:48 PM


    players usually don’t talk about politics, but Imran is a politician now so obviously he does. Whereas Tony and Dean as ex-players talked about Imran Khan’s game by saying what a great player he used to be. Secondly, they are British and Australian and not American to take it that personally.

    Waqar just said it was a GEEEN-WIN doosra from Ajmal. 😀

  94. #94 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 4:53 PM

    I just opened the LS page to remark about Pakastan’s fielding, and right at that moment Dean Jones made the same point which I had in mind.

    I don’t understand why their throwing and picking up is still average. I know today the Aussies struggled with their fielding, but Pakistan can field better than that!

    It has been 20 overs yet and they could have effected 2 or 3 run outs.

  95. #95 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 4:53 PM


  96. #96 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 4:57 PM



  97. #97 by Abdul on April 24, 2009 - 5:02 PM

    Pakistan should have fielded first. Why change a winning strategy? Also after Akmral batted well in the opening slot he had to return to bat at no7.Why change ?

    Anyway let’s see the spinners in operation. Khansahab can I urgently have a link please ?

  98. #98 by Abdul on April 24, 2009 - 5:06 PM

    Applause to Shahid Afridi on reaching that landmark. This live -match- chat is quality. Who needs a TV in this day and age ? LOL !

    Pakistan are in with a chance now that 2 wickets have perished in quick succession. But can I have some visual aids please ?

  99. #99 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 5:21 PM

  100. #100 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 5:22 PM


    Don’t go around advertising that link because the less people know, the better. Otherwise it will get overloaded and none of us will be able to watch it.

  101. #101 by Abdul on April 24, 2009 - 5:24 PM

    Thank You Khansahab

  102. #102 by Abdul on April 24, 2009 - 5:28 PM

    @106 I will take your advice on board 100% !

  103. #103 by Abdul on April 24, 2009 - 5:34 PM

    Khansahab is king khan u on the right side forum ?

  104. #104 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 5:36 PM

    I’m not on the forum.

  105. #105 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 5:56 PM

    I said in the thread that most of these players are tried and tested and Younis’s captaincy will have a huge bearing on the results.

    Today Younis did a few things wrong. The most obvious was that he didn’t play Fawad Alam.

    The second was his bowling changes. Afridi and Ajmal were always going to be the best bowlers on this pitch. After both of them had bowled 5/6 overs each they were withdrawn from the attack and replaced by Akhtar and Rao.

    Akhtar bowled OK today but he is not that same wickettaking bowler. I don’t know why Younis is relying so much on him.

    Afridi and Ajmal should have either bowled their entire spells in one go or bowled at least 8 overs each. That was the time when the best bowlers were needed.

    Now there is dew on the field and Ajmal can’t grip the ball properly.

    Rao and Malik are useless bowlers. The best attack they can get is Arafat, Gul, Tanvir as pace bowlers and Ajmal, Afridi and Alam as spinners.

  106. #106 by Abdul on April 24, 2009 - 6:05 PM

    Get Tanvir in the team ASAP! The game is very much a one sided dead rubber from here. The bowling is just getting milked ever so easily.

  107. #107 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 6:05 PM


    “I am agree” with you on team selection, Fawad Alam’s inclusion would have given another bowling option BUT why is he not using Malik? You bring Malik when the batsmen are all well settled then they would thrash him like it happened in the first match. He should have replaced Afridi with Malik instead of Rao & Akhtar at this stage.

    The Abu Dhabi pitch is not the same as Dubai’s and there will be more runs. Going to Abu Dhabi with 2-0 would have been a better way than 1-1 which is very likely to happen and in that case Australia would be more confident. And, Pakistan’s batting needs a lot of improvement. Right now they are playing with a long tail and that tail is not effective in their own department i.e., bowling.

    Get Fawad Alam, Sohail Tanvir and Yasir Arafat in the team.

  108. #108 by Mohammed Munir on April 24, 2009 - 6:05 PM

    Imran Khan, Javed Miandad and Clive Loyd should be part of the “presentation party” tonight.

  109. #109 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 6:11 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I don’t think Younis has a lot of faith in Malik’s bowling (for the right reasons may I add).

    I know it takes time for a bowler to get into his rhythm, but Malik looked very mediocre in his 2 overs today and also in the 1 over that he bowled on Wednesday.

    I don’t think his bowling will make a huge difference, especially against well settled batsman. But I do agree Younis should have introduced him some time earlier rather than later, his inevitable inefficacy notwithstanding.

  110. #110 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 6:27 PM

    This will be a pathetic defeat for Pakistan. Not only will Australia win, they will win comfortably.

    Younis should do something very different. It is not rocket science. He should think about what went wrong under Inzamam and Malik, and he should strive to be different.

    There are no excuses because Pakistan won the first match. They are capable of winning, but enough is enough and they need changes in the team.

  111. #111 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 6:47 PM


    Arafat made his ODI debut in the same match as Younis. It’s not that he is inexperienced, but the selectors have never persisted with him like they did with Rao.

    He has had so much county and domestic experience and he has always made a mark.

    The ONLY reason why I chose him over Akhtar (and I remember Javed A Khan also said the same thing on Wednesday I think) is because Akhtar is struggling with fitness and he is beyond his best.

    Somehow the trio of Tanvir, Gul and Arafat appears more effective to me than Akhtar, Gul and Rao.

  112. #112 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 6:51 PM


    So where will you be? Behind Bukhatir? 😀

    The match is almost over by now 207/4
    Right after the first match I was saying that Pakistan’s batting needs improvement. They struggled to score in the first match and this time the Australian team played better than last time, MJ Clark scored the winning run (THE MATCH IS OVER) and the others chipped in very useful runs. If Pakistan does not improve their batting, they will loose the series for sure.

  113. #113 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 6:58 PM

    What a difference in perspective!

    Waqar thought Australians are more scared of Ajmal than Afridi.

    Whereas Boycott just said Australians don’t pick up Afridi well, but played comfortably against Ajmal.

  114. #114 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 7:04 PM

    Why didn’t Imran come to the Presentation Ceremony?

  115. #115 by khansahab on April 24, 2009 - 8:53 PM

    A boy in the crowd with a “I love you” banner for Shahid Afridi:

    Dean Jones: “Now that´s bit gayish, isn´t it?”

    Waqar Younis: “Not really Deano, there are lot of them in Pakistan.”

    (Waqar meant, “Afridi fans”)

  116. #116 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 8:57 PM

    “Why didn’t Imran come to the Presentation Ceremony?”

    khansahab why should you worry so much about Imran Arrogant Khan? I did not bother to see the Presentation Ceremony, I had to go but, it wasn’t that urgent I could have waited, but I preferred to go.

    Secondly, the point that I was making 2 days ago about Ajmal i.e., when his Girayeens were worshiping him for AXEE- LENT baaling and said he is a TARRY FICK baaler, I said he bowled in tandem with Afridi. And the reason they didn’t score much against him was because Afridi was taking wickets from the other end and the new batsmen were reluctant to play shots, which is very normal. Whereas, today the batsmen were well settled and they were playing against Ajmal comfortably.

    I also said that Symonds and MJ Clarke are very good players and they were out cheaply in the first match and that doesn’t happen with them everyday and it also doesn’t happen that Afridi takes 6 wickets. The Pakistani batting line up is very weak and they will not be able to win against Australia if their batsmen don’t play well. Younus Khan, Shoaib Malik and Misbah needs to score 50 plus in the same match and the openers must give them a flying start otherwise, they are going to loose the series for sure.

    Fawad Alam must be included in the team his inclusion will strengthen batting, bowling and fielding.

  117. #117 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 8:58 PM

    LOL @ waqar, he is now a maaDrun Mullah with his beard and no mustache ……… he is looking fat now.

  118. #118 by Mohammed Munir on April 24, 2009 - 9:01 PM

    Javed Khan …

    No, ‘beside’ Bukhatir 😀

    Khan Sahab …

    Imran opted out at the last minute due to his political status.

  119. #119 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 24, 2009 - 9:04 PM

    Munir – When Mayanti was asking him questions he should have opted out as well, she did not ask him to comment about Pakistan Politics, but he started with the war on terror and blaming America and projecting his party and NO thank you to that girl. He should have had a duct tape on his mouth rather than blabbing all that braggadocio.

    Behind every Bukhatir
    There is a TAWAZOH

    called……………………………? (munir) 😀

  120. #120 by Mohammed Munir on April 24, 2009 - 9:09 PM

    Hahahah ……….

    I wish you were here.

    Try coming to Dubai for the next Pakistan/ New Zealand series, you would see new stadium at least.

    I guess after Pak/ NZ series, we may also have Pakistan/ West Indies right here in UAE, you may come for that at least.

  121. #121 by Mohammed Munir on April 24, 2009 - 9:12 PM

    Javed Khan …

    As you mentioned in the email, UAE is definitely going to go ahead as a world class venue for cricket once again.

    They are already lining-up for the Pak/ NZ, then Pak/WI, and many more to come.

  122. #122 by Mohammed Munir on April 24, 2009 - 9:14 PM

    It’s late here 1.00 am to be exact, and I was just up so I am writing some light comments only.

    But later when I have time, I will clarify my stance on Fawad Alam, and some more heavy stuff on our performance/ selection so far.

  123. #123 by Mohammed Munir on April 24, 2009 - 9:18 PM

    Mr. Bukhatir is so proud of his new Dubai Sports City Stadium !!

  124. #124 by khansahab on April 25, 2009 - 8:17 AM

    Musharraf willing to return to the helm of power

    LAHORE: Former president General (retired) Pervez Musharraf has said he will be willing to take the president’s office once again if the country’s political and economic affairs continue their downward spiral.

    Interviewed by the Al-Jazeera television channel, he said that he would mull over the chance of returning to his previous position if he thought he could play a meaningful role for the country.

    Musharraf told Al-Jazeera that he had resigned because if he had continued he would have become ‘kind of an impotent president.’ He said he did not like sitting around uselessly and therefore chose to depart.

    However, Musharraf said that since relinquishing his position, he was increasingly becoming ‘despondent’ about the country’s state of affairs, especially the situation in Swat, where the Taliban had been allowed by the government to introduce sharia law.

    The former president said the Taliban were now a far greater threat to Pakistan than Al Qaeda. He slammed the US for the ‘trust deficit’ between the two countries. Musharraf said President Barack Obama was not very different from his predecessor and had not helped change the US mind-set towards Pakistan.

  125. #125 by khansahab on April 25, 2009 - 8:28 AM

    Yesterday a student leader of the Pukhtoon ANP was shot dead in Karachi.

    Last week another student of the same party was shot dead by gunmen.

    Since the departure of Musharraf, the situation in Karachi with ethnic tensions has escalated. Last year a Kachi Abadi of Urdu Speaking residents was set on fire and it could not be proven who was the arsonist, except that Pushtoon groups were suspected. A few months ago activists of MQM were shot dead and some Urdu Speaking residents of a Pathan dominated locality were beaten up and forced to leave.

    This followed with some people on motorbikes setting fire to Pathan shops.

    The leaders of MQM and ANP have both said that their parties are not responsible for these atrocities. So who is it then?

    I would have thought that this was the work of intolerant and supremacist Urdu Speakers and Pathans, but recently something really bad happened which I don’t ever recall happening ever since I have been reading newspapers.

    A Church was attacked in Karachi, followed by armed groups attacking Christians in a Kachi Abadi. Now who is responsible for this? I have never read about any religious building or members of other religions being attacked in Pakistan, at least in the past 2-3 years.

    MQM has been saying that Karachi is being Talibanised. Is it the Taliban or some other group working to destabilise Pakistan?

  126. #126 by khansahab on April 25, 2009 - 9:29 AM


    I think we need to establish first whether Pakistani cricketers actually learn anything with the progression of time, or whether they rely on raw talent to be successful.

    It is difficult to say. Salman Butt did very well in his first year of international cricket and comparisons were drawn immediately with Saeed Anwar. He averaged 50 in his first year.

    Younis Khan has become a better player with time, and so has Mohammad Yousuf. So maybe this rule does not apply to middle order batsmen. However, if you look at people like Faisal Iqbal or Bazid Khan, who are very experienced, it appears they have not learned anything. Miandad is the only player apart from Wally Hammond who never averaged below 50 in his entire career, so he was also pretty good when he first started.

    Afridi has been an inconsistent batsman all his career, but his batting form was better when he started. There was some pattern to his batting and he was somewhat dependable. Maybe it was the fire to perform and make a name for himself, which is there with every player I guess. On the other hand his bowling as improved with time.

    Waqar, Shoaib Akhtar, Rana, Sami, all these bowlers were at their best when they started. Waqar was at his best in the series against England in 91/92 and he made his debut in 1990 I think. It was that England series where he was first accused of ball tampering.

    If you look at other countries, the situation is much clearer. Even in India, players like Sehwag, Gambhir, Zaheer Khan, Yuvraj- all these players have got better with time. Similarly, Warne retired at his peak, McGrath was at his best during the last few years of his career, and so on.

    Regarding Yasir Arafat, I didn’t say he is a great bowler. All I said was that at the moment Akhtar looks ineffective and Arafat should replace him, because Arafat happens to be in the 15 member squad.

    So if someone says Fawad Alam should play more domestic cricket before he becomes a permanent fixture in the team, I am sceptical of that mentality. It might be wasting talent.

    There are many reasons why I support Alam, but 3 of them stick out:

    1) In one match Misbah was settled and Fawad was sent in to bat after Akmal. Fawad played less balls than Misbah and in the end he scored 23 runs from 13 balls or something. Throughout the process Fawad looked more confident and dominant than Misbah. When the innings finished and the players were walking back to the dressing room, Misbah looked so uncomfortable and disturbed because he knew this kid had outperformed him.

    2) That T20 where he hit 3 sixes. It affected the morale of Sri Lanka in the entire series. They had banked on winning the match because none of the players apart from Malik had performed, and even Malik was playing slow. For a young player who has been disappointed countless times sitting on the bench and not getting a chance to play for years, to just come out and play like that was miraculous. You can hit 1 six by a fluke, or 2 sixes by a fluke, but in that situation where 2 overs were left in the match- I’m short of words.

    3) If someone wants to say he can’t play good quality bowling, then his 76 from 82 balls in the practice match against Pakistan XI proves otherwise. He played Akhtar, Gul and Tanvir very easily. Misbah made 79 in that match against a weak bowling attack and he took many more balls than Alam.

  127. #127 by Mohammed Munir on April 25, 2009 - 10:25 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Some time back you told me that I have a knack of picking-up half sentences to support my arguments. Well, all I can say now is that you have picked-up that habit from me very well. 😉

    Out of my entire comment no. 68, you picked just one last sentence and ‘missed’ the rest of it. This, I must say, was the “enthusiasm of criticism”.

    After seeing how you have purposely distorted my comments on Fawad Alam and came-up with a totally different version, I went back and ‘re-read’ my comments a few times, to double check myself. I clearly said, and I will copy here again, “I, for one, will be the happiest if we win the series without Fawad Alam or any other player playing a single match, rather then loosing with their best individual performances”.

    Now this absolutely does not mean, what you have interpreted in your comment as, “First of all you are picking on Fawad Alam only by saying, you would be the happiest man if he doesn’t play”.

    What I meant was that, I will be happy to win the series, even if Fawad Alam or ANY OTHER PLAYER did not play any matches. So for me, it is most important that we win the series and my comment also came in the background of all-round severe criticism of almost all players, in spite of a win in first ODI.

    Although, Awas and Khansahab, clearly understood what I mean but they were somewhat mislead with your phony interpretation and putting words in my mouth.

    Finally, now that we lost the second ODI convincingly, we all have a good chance to criticize as much as we want to, but at least we should not do that when we are winning !!

    Khansahab …

    Please do not misunderstand me for quoting these, but following are some of your pre-series comments:
    “Younis and Gul are the only two consistent performers whereas Afridi will be tested as the lead spinner in the squad”.
    “I didn’t say Afridi is reliable, I said Gul and Younis are”.
    “The top performers for Pakistan going into this series are Younis and Umar Gul.

    In background of the aforementioned comments, I think you should not be much disappointed with most of the other non-performing players, as from the very beginning you did not have much hope on any of them anyway. You pinned all your hopes on only Younis Khan and Omer Gul (more then Afridi also), so I guess, they are one who have disappointed you the most, so far.

    But the most shocking point is that you have criticized most of the others, whereas you never blamed your most consistent guys 😆

    On Fawad Alam and Younis Khan …

    I don’t have to justify to anyone that I admire Fawad’s cricketing skills and I also like his polite and composed nature. Fawad surely will be an asset for Pakistan and he will provide the team with much needed variety through his left hand batting and left arm spin bowling. However, if he is not included in the playing eleven, whom shall we realistically blame for this ? Shoaib Malik, Saeed Ajmal, Nasir Jamshed, etc. ?

    Well my guess is, the management and mostly the Captain are the reasons for Fawad not playing.

    Why are we only arguing that weather Fawad Alam should be in the team or not, whereas we should ponder on who is keeping him out and who is the decision-maker to make Fawad part of the playing-eleven in the team ?

    None of the Malik, Ajmal or others will voluntarily opt out to make way for Fawad, but Captain is the guy who should put his feet down and select his best person.

    When Malik was the captain, we all use to blame him for wrong selection, including his own friends (which was a correct thing to do), but now that Younis is the Captain and if there is a fault in selections; we are all beating around the bushes and no one dare say a word against him, why?

    Javed Khan wrote in one of his comments above, “The team selection is very poor. Shoaib Akhtar’s inclusion in the team was a mistake and after seeing how he performed in the first game, including him in the second game is a blunder. Sohail Tanvir or Yasir Arafat should have been taken. But, they wanted to rely on the old and experienced horse which is nothing but a spent force. If that is what they want, then why did they choose Ahmad Shahzad over Fawad Alam today?”

    They, they, they. Well who are THEY? Why can’t we simply say that the Captain Younis Khan is too scared to give chance to Fawad Alam and he is depending on his ‘old and experienced horses’ ? Alternatively, we have to accept that Younis too is a weak and a dummy captain, who can not make a strong decision on his own. It is surely one of the two scenarios, either Younis does not have a say in the final playing eleven (which is hard to believe knowing Younis) or he is not confident of Fawad yet.

    Younis Khan, the so called ‘best and most consistent batsman of Pakistan’, has failed in both the matches and not only with his batting but moreover he was not much impressive even with his captaining too. Plus he played a stupid shot in the first ODI, but since we won that game, no one pointed a finger at him. In the second ODI he made a mistake of continuing with Akhtar and Gul for too long which gave chance to Australian batsmen to settle down well. Seeing our previous game and from the spin-friendly wicket, he should have introduced Afridi and even Ajmal much earlier.

    The Mr. Consistent, may perform in one or two matches, if lucky, out of the five ODIs and then we shall be praising him all over.

    On Shahid Afridi…

    Shahid is of the paramount importance in this Pakistani unit, and I am sure UAE brings out the best in him. I am not only talking about his unsurpassed performances in batting, fielding, as well as bowling departments, but since I was in the ground during both the Dubai matches, I saw him as the most agile, eager and hungry for a Pakistani win player. Yesterday, during second ODI, Shahid was running to every single bowler, after the deliveries, to encourage and buck them up. After it was obvious that Pakistan is going to loose, Younis Khan started taking it easy and he was ‘laughing’ and smiling along with Shoaib Akhtar and others, while Shahid was still giving it his 100% till the very end showing good fighting sprit. He was so committed which was also obvious from his cautious batting as he badly wanted to win it for Pakistan.

    IMO, Shahid Afridi, have single handedly won the first ODI for Pakistan, without any mentionable contribution from either a bowler or a batsman.

    On Salman Butt …

    I agree with most of the comments above that Salman Butt played a very negative role and at the end, during the presentation ceremony, some young spectators ‘booed’ him and one of them even shouted that ‘Salman go back to Pakistan, there is no Test Cricket in Abu Dhabi’.

    His slow start puts the entire team in a negative frame of mind, but the tragedy with this Pakistani team is that we do not have a dependable and better choice opener, so I guess we are left with no options.

    On Rao Iftikhar, Shoaib Malik, Shoaib Akhtar, and Ahmed Shahzad …

    They all simply need to be out of the team.

    But who will bell the cat ?? Can Younis Khan take this hard decision ??

    Fawad Alam, Tanveer Sohail and Yassir Arafat …
    They should be part of the playing eleven, no matter what.

  128. #128 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 25, 2009 - 12:06 PM


    1. Phony interpretation? There is no such thing is phony interpretation, it could be “wrong or incorrect interpretation” but, not phony. Besides, my interpretation is based on your words and sentences, if you express them clearly then there would be no ambiguity in understanding them. So, better choose right words and sentences next time so that a lay person like me can also understand it clearly. I am not the scholarly Awas or a genius like, khansahab.

    2. On that comment, “habit of picking up half the sentence that suits your argument”, now by trying to make a point that I have picked up your habit (Allah na Karay) which is not the case but, you are now admitting that you do have that habit, which you were vehemently denying at that time. So, you have proved it that you do that.

    3. Let me copy paste your comment #68 and mind you not a word or a sentence but, it was the whole last paragraph of your comment which was the punch line and you’ve emphasized it after highlighting it: “For me the most important thing was the Pakistani win !! I, for one, will be the happiest if we win the series without Fawad Alam or any other player playing a single match, rather then loosing with their best individual performances.”

    The only player you’ve picked from the squad is poor Fawad Alam who is sitting on the bench and those who underperformed or, seems to have been unfairly selected have been ignored. So, obviously anybody will say, “why are you picking on him?” You could have made the point without picking on him.

    4. You are hammering on the use of the word “they” which means selectors and when one refers to the selectors one doesn’t write their names in every sentence, its just they and it is understood. Besides, you’ve dumped the whole criticism on YK assuming that I am his ardent fan or the biggest supporter, aNO, I am not. And I have criticized his decisions many times, Iwould not include him in my team for the T20 format, I would include him only in the test side.

    5. And, for the post of a captain I would say Shahid Afridi is the man. And, once again Imran Khan was blabbering about YK as the logical choice and blah, blah and he let us down by refusing to captain the Pakistan side when offered. There is no logical choice or automatic choice its all BULL and Imran’s own imagination. Like he imagines ‘one day’ his party will come to power!

    6. When Mayanti asked Imran about Afridi, he did Ayeen, Bayeen, Shayeen as usual. Most people know that Imran doesn’t like Afridi that much because Afridi is not the buttering type to please Imran, whereas YK is. And you, by saying: “Shahid Afridi, have single handedly won the first ODI for Pakistan.” You have discovered something which none of us knew it before, hence you have just become Munirstein. 😀

    And, I don’t agree with your point that when a team wins they should not be criticized, we can only criticize them when they loose! And, you called it “a rare win” which is also wrong. Because, Pakistan has won against Australia many times before this not as many as they have won against Pakistan, but it is not a rare win. Secondly, if you don’t criticize the weakness in the team, then it breeds complacency and that’s a disease.

    A win based on one player’s solo performance can be celebrated as an achievement for that person, but for the team its a shame if it happens again and again and others don’t perform. Because, an individual cannot excel in every single game. A team is not an individual, a team is comprised of individuals and each one of them is as important as the other. Sometimes one performs better than others and that is why there is a MOM award. But, for the lack of performance from the others, pointing out the mistakes is important whether it is a win or a defeat.

  129. #129 by khansahab on April 25, 2009 - 10:33 PM


    Fine, I accept that you would prefer Shoaib Akhtar on current form as opposed to Yasir Arafat.

    I see the merit in your argument that they are nothing players, but I still maintain that without giving Arafat a consistent run of 5 ODI matches to prove his worth, we should not be so overly judgemental. If you can give Shoaib Akhtar 3 ODI’s to develop some form you can also give Arafat the same number of matches. Younis will give Akhtar another chance although Akhtar has looked tired, and has not bowled at full pace and also has not been able to get wickets. So why not treat Arafat the same and see if his utility is the same or better than Akhtar’s?

    He has never been allowed to settle. He has always been used as a replacement to Akhtar, or Gul, or Wasim and Waqar earlier in his career.

    I will disagree that fast bowlers peak at an early age. Well, it depends on what kind of fast bowler we are talking about. McGrath peaked in the 1998-2003 era, whereas Wasim peaked in the mid-to-late 1990’s. Waqar was an express fast bowler when he started and he peaked as a young, aggressive genuine pacer, but in the late 1990’s he had become more like a swing bowler. His style completely changed but he was not the same bowler anymore.

    In my opinion there are two types of teams that can take Pakistan to glory. One is a team that has a balance of match winning seniors, the players who can turn a match around on their own (like Afridi). But this team should also have players like Yousuf and Fawad Alam, players who can show some consistency and also win matches when required. Because some balance is required in this team, it is imperative there is no politics or bias in selection as many different types of players will be required.

    The other team is one which only has aggressive batsmen, the type like Afrdi who on their day can destroy the best sides, but who will take risks and make mistakes. This is where Imran Nazir comes in. There are many domestic specialists who are experts in big hitting. In bowling they need to have people like Mohd Aamer- young, fast with a lot of fire. This guy called Aizaz Cheema is a bowler who is only fit half the times because he is always injured. His average delivery is 90mph, but at a result of being so fast he gets injured very often. But when he plays, he always gets top order wickets. We can have players like him in this team. At least it will give a 50% success rate.

  130. #130 by Awas on April 25, 2009 - 11:04 PM


    I will disagree that fast bowlers peak at an early age. Well, it depends on what kind of fast bowler we are talking about”. And you gave a good example of Glen McGrath. Another good one is Courtney Walsh…he went on and on till quite late like an old war horse.

  131. #131 by khansahab on April 25, 2009 - 11:57 PM

    It seems Fawad Alam is still not on anyone’s mind!!

    We didn’t have Partnerships: Younus Khan

    DUBAI — Pakistan captain Younus Khan said that the lack of partnerships cost them the second game against Australia on Friday.

    Pakistan could only post 207 after taking first strike and Australia knocked off the target, losing just four wickets and with 29 balls remaining, in the second ODI of the Chapal Cup five-match series at the Dubai Sports City’s Cricket Stadium on Friday night.

    “It was a good toss to win. But the problem was we didn’t have enough partnerships. There was only partnership. The total was not the best in the world. A total of around 240 would have been a fighting total on this wicket. We made 200 but were probably 40 runs short. We also didn’t use up the four overs. Chasing 250 on this wicket would have been dodgy,” said Younus. Younus put on 53 runs for the second wicket with opener Salman But, who top scored with 57.

    Younus Khan singled out the partnership between Clarke and Symonds as the deciding factor. “They had a good partnership between Clarke and Symonds and they took the game away from us,” he said.

    Younus defended his spinners who weren’t as effective as they were in the first game on Wednesday. Afridi had claimed a career-best 6-38, while offie Saeed Ajmal picked two wickets. But on Friday, Afridi came away with two wickets, while Ajmal took only one.

    “Our spinners could not grip the ball well because of the dew. It was surprising because we have been here more than 10 days or so and we had dew,” Younus said.

    But Younus said there were still positives from the game. “But I am pretty pleased with our body language. It shows that we are in good shape,” he said.

    Younus reiterated that bowling will be the key in the series. “We have some good fast bowlers and all-rounders and we don’t rely on just one individual. Like I said before, bowling is the key in ODIs,” said Younus.

    Younus heaped praise on Australia saying that they are still the best. “They are still the No.1 team in the world and the best team in the world. They have some good all-rounders in their team and they also have Symonds. They have some really good players.”

    Coach Intikhab Alam blamed the batting for the failure. “We have three fast bowlers and they didn’t bowl badly. It was unfortunate that they didn’t get early breakthroughs. We batted badly and I hope we learn from our mistakes. I have faith in the batting but it will take time because we have not played as much over a period of time. But we do have a problem in the batting department,” said Alam.

    Alam hinted that there might changes for the next couple of games. Sohail Tanvir hasn’t had a game so far. “We have Sohail Tanvir and Arafat as well. We still have a couple of days and we might see changes,” added Alam.

  132. #132 by khansahab on April 26, 2009 - 8:10 AM

    The Deputy Pakistani High Commissioner to the UK, Asif Durrani gave an interview recently. In that interview he has mentioned the UK government’s very anti Pakistani agenda.

    He said that his office is flooded everyday with troubled Pakistanis who are suffering Islamophobia in the UK and worrying about the name that is being given to Pakistan by the media.

    I urge the Pakistani government to take some action and put diplomatic pressure on the UK government to treat Pakistanis with dignity and fairness. Because if they don’t do it, British Pakistanis will be further marginalised.

  133. #133 by khansahab on April 26, 2009 - 8:39 AM

    Majid Khan gave an interview a few months ago in which he said that the Pakistan team management does not want to introduce certain youngsters because they are afraid the youngsters will start outperforming the seniors.

    At that time I did not pay much attention to that comment because Majid has always looked very arrogant to me. He has also supported his son Bazid, who is an average player.

    However I am now concerned Majid might be true. Yesterday Intikhab said they also have Arafat and Tanvir whom they can try. There was no mention of Fawad Alam. Today he said that batting is a problem but Pakistan needs to learn from its mistakes. Again, there was no talk of trying a new batsman. In fact in yesterday’s interview Alam was trying to say that Tanvir and Arafat can be played as batsmen.

    This is daylight robbery, some group or some influential individuals are totally against Fawad Alam. This is definitely something more sinister than just politics.

    What they don’t realise, or don’t care about, is that they are ruining the career of a potentially great player. He will get 1 match maybe, or half a chance to perform. He might make 20 runs or so, and then there will be more question marks about his potential. He needed to play at least 3 matches in this series. After Akmal was Pakistan’s best batsman in the 1st ODI, they needed to persist with him as opener and use Fawad in the middle order. It seemed the most logical solution. But in order to facilitate Shahzad the opener, they shifted Akmal to the middle order and Akmal failed to make a mark.

    They can do all this for the sake of Ahmed Shahzad the opener, but they can’t use Akmal as opener for Fawad Alam, the middle order batsman? Is it bias or what?

    And then they ask why people accuse them of politics/mismanagement etc.

  134. #134 by khansahab on April 26, 2009 - 8:58 AM

    Munir sahab/Omer

    I will respond to your comments in due course…

  135. #135 by Mohammed Munir on April 26, 2009 - 9:05 AM

    Khansahab …

    I can wait dear, take your own time 😉

    We are all busy at times and I understand that.

  136. #136 by Mohammed Munir on April 26, 2009 - 9:12 AM

    Javed Khan …

    It’s start of a new week for us, so I will make it crisp, short and sweet 😉

    1- No matter how better I choose the right words and sentences, a “lay person” will understand only what he wants to.

    2- Some where in between the lines, I may have proved to you that I have a habit of picking up partial comments, but you have openly and honestly confessed that you are a “Lay Person” 😉

    3- Out of a squad of 15 players, 4 are always bounded to sit on the bench in every game, so what if Fawad is among them? Secondly, I said, “Fawad Alam or any other player”, which you did not pick. Further, although now you seem to be so concerned about “poor Fawad who is sitting on the bench”, but I do not remember you speaking much about Fawad Alam prior to this. It was always only Khansahab, who is more in favour of Fawad. Why all this sudden change of heart for “poor Fawad”, if I may ask?

    Actually, deep down, even you know it well that if Fawad Alam started playing permanently in the team and since Malik have ‘pukki-parchi’, there may be a situation that Afridi’s position is being sacrificed for Fawad Alam. (I know it will be so wrong if this happened, but it is an eventuality, and you know it).

    4- I think we both know well enough that ‘Selectors’ pick-up a squad of 15 players for the entire tour only, whereas picking-up the playing-eleven is mainly the duty of Captain. At most, Captain can consult Manager and Coach prior to start of the game. But Selectors are never finalizing the playing-eleven in each and every game. I can’t believe you don’t know that?

    5- I agree with you on Shahid Afridi being a better choice for the Captain.

    6- I am not sure if Imran really doesn’t like Afridi, as you have pointed. While even if he does, I guess like all of us, Imran is also entitled to his own free opinion. We can not force all Pathans to like Afridi, can we?

    That Pakistani win was special and rare too, because it was after a very long time, first-ever-game-in-Dubai, first match of series, new Stadium, etc.

    You said, “Secondly, if you don’t criticize the weakness in the team, then it breeds complacency and that’s a disease”, if it is so, then you should openly criticize Younis Khan lest he also does not become complacent 😉

    I am still waiting for your answers on the followings:

    – If Fawad Alam is not picked in the playing-eleven, whose fault is it ?
    – If Shoaib Malik, Rao Iftikhar, and Shoaib Akhtar are playing in spite of poor performances, whom should we blame for their inclusion ?
    – Who is responsible for not playing Sohail Tanvir and Yasir Arafat ?

    Your answers ‘may’ be ‘Selectors’, but I will say ‘Captain’ !!

  137. #137 by khansahab on April 26, 2009 - 10:02 AM

    Munir sahab

    Actually I will respond to you now, after reading your comment to Javed A Khan.

    I have been critical of Younis for a long time. Even on Pakspin I was critical about his irresponsible batting. What is worse is that he has the talent, but there is a problem with his mindset. However, I feel it’s important to stress that certainly in the past 2 years or so his batting has improved tremendously. He is now a world class batsman. In my opinion, he was not 1 or 2 years ago. Incidentally I have mentioned in this current thread that Younis has a bad average against Australia and needs to improve it. I have also criticised Younis’s selection policy in my comments and his bowling changes. Everything that I am saying below is something I have already said before on this blog.

    We have to all admit to being naturally biased to some degree. You see this bias everywhere. No one is above it. When I see an Arab person here, I tend to assume they will be arrogant and look down upon brown skinned people. So if you think you are being fair to Punjabis by hinting that we may be biased against them, that is a result of your own bias. I have already accepted that we are biased too, to some degree.

    Why did we previously centre the blame on Malik, and why are we not directly centering the blame on Younis now?

    There are various reasons for this:

    1) Younis has grown up in Karachi. Most Urdu Speakers respect him and consider him to be someone who will seek fairness in team selection. Whether it is true or false, there is a perception that players from Karachi are dealt with unjustly. The inexplicable treatment of Fawad Alam and Sarfraz Ahmed supports that argument to some degree (here I am not saying regional politics is DEFINITELY the reason for their treatment).

    The Karachi lobby was a substantial reason that Younis was made captain and Malik was sacked as captain. Cricket administrators, former players, the Karachi public- all of them were fed up of Malik.

    2) Why were they fed up of Malik? Imran Nazir admitted in a TV show that Malik wants to have players from Sialkot. TV presenters openly said Malik supports his own friends and people from Sialkot in the team. People in Punjab took this very light heartedly and said, “It is natural….you tend to support people of own area etc”. However, they were very angry when Rashid Latif was supporting Karachi players. Here I am not blaming the educated and unbiased people of Punjab, but the biased and uncouth people.

    One of the TV presenters called Mirza Iqbal Baig who presents Bolain Kya Baath Hai, is an Urdu Speaker and he has connections in the PCB. He has been thought to fight for Younis’s captaincy promotion. He has also said on his show that Younis is fair and does not look at regional backgrounds to select players. It was a hint towards Shoaib Malik.

    3) In Malik’s tenure, before every series there were reports of “heated” arguments between Salahuddin and Malik, based on selection. It was always regarding 4 players- Afridi, Fawad Alam, Sarfraz Ahmed and Sohail Khan. Many people say that had it not been for Salahuddin, Afridi would have been dropped and his career would have been over.

    4) The captain AND THE COACH decide the playing XI, although the captain tends to have his way most of the times. Geoff Lawson did not take any part in team selection, as he did not know about the domestic structure that much and he kept away from politics. After he was sacked by the PCB, he said in an interview that Fawad Alam is the best newcomer he has seen and also the best fielder. When he was asked what Pakistan can do to improve their team he said that they need to improve their coaching system and they also need to get rid of “politics”.

    Now the captain is a Pathan and the coach is a Punjabi. I don’t have a problem with Intikhab Alam, except his strange media interviews, but all I am saying is that things have slightly changed from when Malik had little or no input from Lawson to now where Younis and Intikhab are both involved. You can see from Inti’s interviews everyday how involved he is in team selection.

    What is the team management? It is the captain, the coach, the team manager and other administrative staff. Certainly if you look at the 3 key individuals- captain, coach and manager, even in Malik’s time there were 2 Punjabis out of 3 (Malik and Talat Ali) and it is the same now (Inti and Yawar Saeed).


    OK, now a little bit more about Younis:

    I don’t think Younis is an angel- none of the players are. He is a respected figure and he has a sense of dignity. That much is true. If he is against Fawad Alam, then it will be shocking, but it is as condemnable as Malik being against Fawad Alam. It is too early to say why he is ignoring Fawad.

  138. #138 by Mohammed Munir on April 26, 2009 - 11:43 AM

    Khansahab …

    Very good explanations, a well thought and fully informative reply. I must say, I agree with almost all your points and I absolutely liked your mature assessment of the situation by and large.

    Having said that, there is only one point which I would like to make is that, knowing Younis Khan, being the man who has twice thrown back the Captainship in the face of PCB, I am not ready to believe that he is intimidated in any possible way by the Manager and Coach.

    Although, it is not easy for me to agree on this, but I still accept that I “may” be wrong.

  139. #139 by Awas on April 26, 2009 - 12:50 PM

    Interesting debate here and some admirable thoughts both from Munir and khansahab. One question. I know what Qadir is but amongst the selectors how many are Punjabis? I honestly don’t know, hence the question.

    Amongst the newcomers, I agree with khansahab’s assessment of who seems more deserving but the fact of the matter is that amongst the tried and tested players, the likes of Shoaib Akhtar, Malik, Misbah etc, we are not likely to see the back of them pretty much soon. The reason being, whatever our preferences, the people that matter in selecting the final eleven such as captain prefer to stick with tried and tested players with international experience. Younis Khan made the same noises about them before the series started and so did his predecessors such as Inzi etc before him and there is no doubt there is some justifiable thinking in selecting tried and tested players despite our different preferences. Inzi would hardly ever tinker with established players. Abdul Razzaq for example had become a liability towards his late career with his mediocre bowling, batting and fielding but he was still persisted. That trend seems to be ingrained in every captain’s mindset. That may be one reason Fawad Alam is not being replaced with Malik or Misbah.

  140. #140 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 26, 2009 - 1:39 PM

    Munir: I ‘ve never considered myself as an intellectual or proclaimed to be a scholarly person and I am happy to be in the category of a lay person, which in my opinion is better than being a pseudo intellectual. Most people don’t recognize their own level of intelligence and they don’t know on which platform they are, even when they are on stilts they think they are on top of the world. If I admit that I am a lay person and if that makes you feel happy, then “don’t worry – be happy.”

    Change of hearts about Fawad Alam? I think you just woke up from your hibernation and, you don’t read or you don’t remember well, because its not just khansahab but, mois aussi i.e., me too, I have said this on numerous occasions on this blog that Fawad Alam is being treated like a step son because of his ethnic background. In fact they treat him worst than that.

    I have criticized Younus Khan as well not just for dissing Shahriyar Khan by saying: “I don’t want to be a dummy captain” and, rejecting the captaincy offer twice. But, I have said that as a player for T20 game he is a misfit, imo he is not an automatic choice, whereas the selectors and MY BAAP thinks otherwise.

    May be khansahab remembers what I wrote, before the T20 WC in SA, when MoYo was dropped and Misbah was selected, I wrote that both MoYo and YK don’t deserve a place in the squad for T20, because they play slow and MoYo’s fielding is pathetic.

    During Bob Wooler days and prior to the Indian tour by the Pakistan team in 2005, on Wooler’s Blog I had criticized YK for sitting next to Woolmer all the time and it was so obvious that he was buttering Bob’s Butt. And, I wrote to BOB that you like him because he wears velvet gloves to pick your balls. A lot of his supporters got mad at me at that time. I ridiculed him for his silly comment when he said, “I am going to win because winning is my habit” this he said when he was captaining in one ODI because Inzi was sick. That was the only ODI Pakistan lost against England. I have criticized Imran Khan’s stupid speech at the 1992 WC, he appeared like a self-centered arrogant individual and not a team captain. So, Pathan or no Pathan when someone creates a hole they are vulnerable.

    In that famous 2005 Mohali Test Match, which Abdul Razzaq and Kamram Akmal saved it for Pakistan, YK not only played very badly by scoring single digits in both innings but, he also dropped a simple catch of Tendulkar when he was on 9 and on top of that he was laughing while everyone else got pissed off. He was lucky after that and, in Kolkata and Bangalore tests he scored centuries and double centuries and since then he became a permanent fixture in the team. Apart from Razzaq and Akmal, the player who actually saved Pakistan from total disaster was ASIM KAMAL, he top scored 91 in the first innings and 48 in the second innings @ Mohali.

    The Selectors killed Asim Kamal’s passion and are doing the same thing with FAWAD ALAM now. And, mind you these days the selectors are more powerful than the captain. Now, the team selection is not done purely on the whims and wishes of the captain he is one important cog in the wheel, but not th most dominant person. That is why Afridi survived under Salahuddin’s tenure otherwise, Shoaib Malik and Talat Ali Malik did their best to get rid of Afridi.

    I always criticize poor decisions, poor performances and I have not spared anyone. Even when Afridi plays poor shots and get out, I have called him hothead, pothead, Akhroat and what not. I made fun of him on saying “Qadir gave me a good time” after the first match presentation ceremony.

    It is your own weird imagination about my thinking because, you have no clue what I feel or think deep down, in fact no one knows kay kis kay dil may kya hai? Otherwise they wouldn’t have written this song:

    Mayray Dil may aaj kyaa hai
    Tu kahay tou mai bataa doon

    You may read what I have written on this blog a few months ago when Fawad Alam won the match for Pakistan against Sri Lanka in Toronto last October. In fact it was a lost match and Malik was batting to survive and his captaincy then, Fawad Alam came and smashed 3 huge sixes, 23 in 8 balls and single handedly won the match, Umar Gul got 4 wickets for 13 runs and he was ignored too whereas Shoaib Malik scored 42 in 37 balls and got the man of the match award, please go and check the archives of LS and read what I have written. Probably you were hibernating then or is it “Old-Timerz” ? 😀

  141. #141 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 26, 2009 - 1:54 PM

    “That may be one reason Fawad Alam is not being replaced with Malik or Misbah.” Awas

    it is not a matter of replacing Alam by dropping Malik or Misbah, I think in this current situation they should replace Alam with Rao Iftikhar, because the wicket suits spinners so drop a fast bowler. You can’t drop Akhtar for his reputation, then drop Rao. And Alam is not a bad spinner, in fact he is better than Malik in that department. But, neither Malik nor Misbah can be dropped because of their reputation. Actually it would be unfair to drop either one of them for Alam. So, replace Alam with Ahmad Shahzad or Rao Iftikhar.

    Also, the main point that is being talked about is the batting side which is very weak, by adding Alam in the team you are strengthening the batting line up. I was suggesting that instead of Ahmad Shahzad, who is a rookie bring in Alam he has a proven record (if that is the criteria) and replace Rao with Arafat or Tanvir because they are both better in batting and fielding than Rao.

  142. #142 by Awas on April 26, 2009 - 2:17 PM


    I think it would be better to replace Rao Ifti with Tanvir than Fawad Alam as otherwise it would leave the team with two quickies only – Gul and Shoaib Akhtar. That could be dangerous as there is a good chance of unpredictable Shoaib breaking down after a couple of overs. So, for Fawad Alam there has to be another replacement.

  143. #143 by khansahab on April 26, 2009 - 3:24 PM

    Saeed Ajmal reported for suspect action

    Saeed Ajmal, the Pakistan offspinner, has been reported for a suspect bowling action. Asad Rauf and Asoka de Silva, the umpires for the second ODI between Pakistan and Australia in Dubai on Friday, said they had concerns over Ajmal’s action and hence requested the ICC to review his action.

    The third and fourth umpires Zameer Haider and Nadeem Ghouri were also part of a report submitted to the ICC in which it was stated that, having monitored Ajmal’s action over two ODIs, there was reason it be scrutinised further under the relevant ICC process. The ICC will obtain three copies of the relevant footage, one of which will be kept by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB).

    Ajmal will undergo an independent analysis of his action by a member of the ICC panel of human movement specialists, appointed in consultation with the PCB. If his action remains suspect during the analysis, he faces a ban and will have to remedy his action.

    If the analysis confirms the umpires’ suspicions of only a specific delivery, Ajmal can continue to bowl in international cricket but faces a ban if reported again.

  144. #144 by Abdul on April 26, 2009 - 4:48 PM

    Hi guys.

  145. #145 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 26, 2009 - 7:46 PM


    Except for Saqlain Mushtaq, every single bowler be it Murali, Harbhajan, Ajmal or whoever, their DOOSRA is a suspect action. In fact Murali and Harbhajan’s action is very obvious to the naked eye. Shoaib Akhtar’s faster deliveries are like that, so that is nothing new.

  146. #146 by khansahab on April 26, 2009 - 8:06 PM

  147. #147 by khansahab on April 26, 2009 - 9:51 PM

    According to the Urdu newspaper Jang, Younis has said either one of Shoaib Akhtar, Misbah or Afridi may be rested for the 3rd ODI.

    Most people are calling this irresposible journalism saying that there is no way Younis could have said Afridi or Misbah could be rested as one is in top bowling form and the other is the vice captain.

  148. #148 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 27, 2009 - 2:58 AM

    khansahab on that Jang news:

    When Malik was captain he did the same, Afridi was playing well and he dropped him against Sri Lanka in Abu Dhabi a couple of years ago by saying we are giving him rest to give a chance to other younger players. Afridi lost his momentum and never recovered. It is very normal for any player if you play YO YO with him.

    If Younus Khan is going to do the same then, he is a bloody Ch2yum Sulfate.

    That time I wrote, Malik should have dropped himself to give the other younger players a chance because as a captain his place was guaranteed. Likewise, YK despite two failure performances, his place is guaranteed because he is the captain therefore, he should drop himself to give others a chance. And Shoaib Akhtar definitely does not deserve a place in the team. Tanvir or Arafat should come in.

  149. #149 by Mohammed Munir on April 27, 2009 - 4:11 AM

    Quote of the day …

    “The World’s Happiest Friends Never Have The Same Characteristics,

    They Just Have The Best Understanding Of Their Differences”

    PS: Suits us all 🙂

  150. #150 by Mohammed Munir on April 27, 2009 - 10:59 AM

    Iftikhar and Akhtar are out and replaced by Sohail Tanvir and Yasir Arafat 🙂

    This shall help strengthen our batting line, but why is Malik still included ?

    Most ideal situation would have been to also replace Malik with Fawad Alam.

  151. #151 by Bassam on April 27, 2009 - 2:51 PM

    hello guyz since u r all watching cricket in the uae, here is a tape of how the Dubai ruler’s brother tortured his worker it is a must see video and to know how brutal they are

  152. #152 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 27, 2009 - 3:09 PM

    They dropped Akhtar because of the hot weather, it is 41C and he wouldn’t have lasted for more than 4 overs. Rao needed a break too because he was pretty ordinary. Unfortunately neither Tanvir nor Arafat proved their selection by bowling loose deliveries. Once again it was the spin department that overwhelmed the fast bowling department (except for Gul who took 3 wickets). Therefore, under these conditions it would be worth having another extra spinner in Fawad Alam.

    Today, when YK introduced Malik ahead of Ajmal, Waqar Younus was saying: ” I don’t understand this decision because Ajmal is a better bowler than Malik and he should have been brought in.” Waqar can never understand because he doesn’t like to think outside the box.

    This is exactly what I was saying a few days ago that Malik should be introduced when a wicket has fallen or the batsmen are not settled or finding difficult to score runs. Then, Malik can contain them or take a wicket or two. And, thats what happened. He clean bowled Hadding from behind his legs and then he contained the batsmen from scoring, that is how Malik should be used.

    Ajmal if he is a good bowler should be able to contain them or take wickets whenever he is introduced. Although he bowled well under the circumstances i.e., according to the match situation and his mental. He is under scrutiny because of the umpires reporting a suspect action so at the back of his mind he is cautious in bowling his doosra and that is there at the back of his mind therefore he was not delivering 100% yet he bowled well except that he was thrashed towards the end of the innings, which in any case happens to most bowlers.

    The target is achievable and Pakistan should win this match without much difficulty, they need to play sensibly rather than emotionally. And, that is a big ask from them.


    Dropping Malik may not have been the “ideal situation,” Fawad Alam should have been replaced by Ahmad Shahzad. Malik is a better and known product than Shahzad. May be Shahzad may score today but, that is a 50-50 chance. Whereas, Malik’s utility as a bowler, batsman and a fielder is far better and known. From whatever little I have seen of Shahzad he is not a good fielder and he doesn’t bowl. So, you cannot compare the two. In the shorter version games you have to select a player on his overall utility. Also, the way he is used by his captain at the right time. Today, Malik was used by YK at the right time and got better results.

  153. #153 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 27, 2009 - 3:13 PM

    Bassam – what the hell is that man? Geez that poor guy is beaten and tortured not only by the Shaikh but by the police as well and the irony is the Shaikh wanted the video to be made. I have also read the news on abc in which its written that the government made an official inquiry and cleared the Shaikh and closed the case! Wow, what kinda justice is this? Munir must also see this and comment.

  154. #154 by Awas on April 27, 2009 - 4:37 PM

    They seem to be batting sensibly whilst chasing, albeit at a slow pace. As they don’t have a target to set this is the right approach…to keep the scorecard ticking whilst keeping wickets in hand.

  155. #155 by Mohammed Munir on April 27, 2009 - 4:59 PM

    Awas …

    Lagta Hai Aap Ki Nazar Lag Gai Hai Team Ko 😉

    Younis Khan on a first ball duck, and he said he wants to score a century in this series 😆

  156. #156 by Mohammed Munir on April 27, 2009 - 5:03 PM

    Wow, there you go again… they are 107 for 3 now.

    Misbah out on 9, and he wanted to be Afridi today 😆

  157. #157 by Mohammed Munir on April 27, 2009 - 5:06 PM

    What the F …

    There goes wicket no. 4.

    They are falling like dominos.

    I am outta here :shocked:

  158. #158 by khansahab on April 27, 2009 - 5:30 PM


    Good point above regarding captains opting to play with senior and experienced players, as a general rule. I agree this reason must be considered in relation to Fawad Alam etc.

    What a pathetic situation. Misbah is underperforming, but if he is rested, people will say Younis should rest too because his batting has been the same. Of course being the captain Younis can’t “rest”, but it won’t entirely be fair to Misbah.

  159. #159 by Aamir Iqbal on April 27, 2009 - 5:39 PM

    A good steady partnership should see this match home. Fundamentally nothing bazaar or pathetic is required and then I’m sure we’ll have this game in the bag.

    Yours Truly

  160. #160 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 27, 2009 - 5:52 PM

    Pakistan team is so capable of turning a winning situation into a losing one and they have done this so many times and they are doing it today as well. I have been saying that spin bowling is very effective on these grounds and MJ Clarke should be bowling (he didn’t bowl in the first two) I have also been raving and ranting that Pakistan should include Fawad Alam to have four spinners and only two seamers in the team. They really don’t need their fast bowlers other than Gul and they can have just one more either Tanvir or Arafat, but both are out of form.

    Butt ko Shahzad nay ghaiyrat dilayee only then he started scoring at a faster pace earlier he made 9 in 29 balls. But, his departure triggered the collapse with Younus Khan playing once again a stupid shot, Misbah too – he either blocks or tries to hit big over the bowler’s head, he succeeded once but, failed once again.

    Afridi, is Afridi he was telling Malik ” Ek run ko zahen may rekho” and then sudden rush of blood as usual jumped out of the crease, the bowler saw it earlier, pulled the ball to deny him getting under it and he had no choice but to cut it. It was a suicide when you have a slip and playing a spinner either you are stumped out or you nick it and you are trapped in the slips.

    Kamran played a silly scoop shot like Younus Khan and now as Haddin called, “Boyz the crusty tail has just begun.” If Pakistan wins it would only be Malik’s heroics if he stays there till the end and guides the tail-enders. Its not impossible 55 runs in 57 balls. Like I said, earlier batting sensibly is a big ask.

  161. #161 by Awas on April 27, 2009 - 6:03 PM

    What a stupid shot by Arafat…just like the others. They deserve to loose.

  162. #162 by Awas on April 27, 2009 - 6:35 PM

    They seem to be loosing. So, Misbah should be rested for the next match and replaced by Fawad. There is no question of Younus getting a rest whether it’s fair or not.

  163. #163 by khansahab on April 27, 2009 - 7:23 PM

    People might cynically say whether having Fawad Alam in the team will actually make a positive difference.

    However, not having him in the team is definitely not making things better.

    Misbah has to sit out in the next game.

    Now if they play Fawad in one or two games and he fails, his career will be threatened. He needed to play a minimum of 3 games.

  164. #164 by Abdul on April 27, 2009 - 8:07 PM

    What a pathetic performance. The ultimate problem is too much mediocrity .

  165. #165 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 27, 2009 - 8:19 PM

    Younus Khan should play Malik at number 4 and not after Misbah, because Malik plays well when the going is good and same is the case with his bowling. He cannot perform well when the chips are down, he has a chicken heart and that’s his weakness. He was there till the end but, he wasn’t looking confident, he always get cold feet if he has to play till the end.

    Against Sri Lanka he was there and the target was looking big for him and Fawad Alam came and hit three sixes and then Malik hit the winning four. In Karachi, in 2004 against India when India scored 349 and Pakistan lost by 5 runs, Malik gave a dolly catch to Mohammad Kaif and Moin Khan couldn’t hit a six on the last ball. I can’t remember the exact number of times but, Malik gets cold feet in tense situations.

    Therefore, a good captain must be able to see and recognize the strengths and weaknesses of his players and use their strengths to get the maximum out of what is available to him. This is a message for Younus Khan.

    Misbah, if he plays the next game must re-think his strategy, he either blocks or hit big OR, he plays premeditated shots like reverse sweep, paddle shot etc., and gets out.

    Waqar’s blooper of the day:

    “He is one of the Best Batsmens I know.”

  166. #166 by khansahab on April 27, 2009 - 9:16 PM

    I saw this mentioned somewhere and thought it was quite interesting, that Misbah has played 48 ODI’s or something and still does not have a century.

    I know making centuries is not the only criterion for measuring potential or usefulness to the team, but all good batsmen make centuries.

  167. #167 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 27, 2009 - 10:13 PM


    Misbah has only one test century against India, c’est ca. Besides, Misbah’s international career shot to stardom during the SA T20 WC. On both occasions he failed to finish the match in Pakistan’s favour.

    From the most “deniable” resources I have come to know that Saeed Ajmal will be rested in favour of Fawad Alam. Let us see if this is true.

  168. #168 by Mohammed Munir on April 28, 2009 - 3:57 AM


    They are sure are 😉

  169. #169 by khansahab on April 28, 2009 - 7:17 AM


    I think Misbah should be replaced by Alam, not Malik. Malik took an important wicket and bowled very well. His batting is negative but this is the best he can do against Australia.

  170. #170 by Mohammed Munir on April 28, 2009 - 8:51 AM

    In the three games, the batting has let Pakistan DOWN.

    Even the game we won, they were six out while chasing only 168.

    Mr. Consistent and Pakistan’s, supposedly, number one batsman, Younis Khan, is himself a major disappointment, so far. (What’s more painful is that he is “COOL” about it)

    In spite of totally spinner-friendly pitches, Pakistan is continuously playing with three fast-bowlers, none of whom has made any decent contribution.

    Javed Khan, very good observation, yes I agree with you, Shoaib Malik seems more like a spineless, gutless, chickenhearted, ‘Meesna’, who can be used earlier in batting line.

    Solutions …..

    I think Fawad Alam MUST come in for the 4th ODI, in place of Yassir Arafat.

    Although, Fawad can also replace Malik, however, since fast-bowling is failing, there is no need to play three fast-bowler, plus Malik’s spin bowling can be more useful then Yassir Arafat’s fast bowling. Secondly, since batting is the main worry, keeping Malik and replacing Fawad with Yassir will be helpful for batting department as Malik is considered a better batsman then Yassir.

    Whereas on a long term basis, PCB should find a way to bring Mohammed Yousif back in the team, as we are not going anywhere with such hopeless batting performances.

  171. #171 by Mohammed Munir on April 28, 2009 - 8:53 AM

    Khanshab …

    Misbah is VC, so he is not going to go.

    I guess, Yassir Arafat should make way for Fawad Alam in fourth ODI.

  172. #172 by Mohammed Munir on April 28, 2009 - 8:54 AM

    Oops … “Khansahab” 😛

  173. #173 by khansahab on April 28, 2009 - 12:27 PM

    This is what Boycott said,

    “Shoaib Malik, as much as a good player he is, is simply not good enough to take the game to Australia”.

    In response to that Ramiz Raja just grunted without saying anything substantive.

  174. #174 by Aamir Iqbal on April 28, 2009 - 3:43 PM

    Khansahab please quickly check your inbox regarding my word press account.

  175. #175 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 28, 2009 - 3:43 PM

    Ramiz Raja is like an over protective mother of Shoaib Malik. He finds ways to dis Afridi and praise Malik. When Afridi was interviewed by Mayanti, he confessed that he is struggling with his batting and somewhere in the middle he even mentioned the word ‘surviving‘ and as soon as the interview was over …. over to Ramiz, he picked up the two words. Poor Afridi is struggling and surviving….. and he said that with a smirk.

    Also, before the match when he was commenting on the crowd, he said, Abu Dhabi is full of Pathans and they come here to support him. He was trying to create a jingoistic touch that only Pathans support him. Even in Lahore when he enters the ground there is a big roar from the crowd. And, everywhere else, even in India when he goes out to play the crowd gets frenzy. Boycott admitted that Afridi is one of his favourite players. And, Ramiz cannot digest that.

  176. #176 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 28, 2009 - 3:45 PM

    Whats wrong with abdul? Why this transformation from abdul to aamir iqbal?

  177. #177 by khansahab on April 28, 2009 - 5:16 PM

    Munir sahab

    Are you calling Javed A Khan a “lay person” above?

    Well I guess lay person is fine, because it just means like, “aam aadmi”.

    I hope you did not mean “Simpleton”, which is more like “paindoo”? 🙂

  178. #178 by khansahab on April 28, 2009 - 9:09 PM

    Musharraf’s interview with David Frost:

  179. #179 by khansahab on April 29, 2009 - 8:21 AM


    After 9/11 happened and senators in USA were giving speeches saying they will bomb Mecca if Muslim countries don’t cooperate, there was little Musharraf could do to avoid American presence in Pakistan.

    A person who is willing to behead another person, or bomb a school and destroy a barber’s livelihood, how can you deal with that person without doing what Musharraf did? The views of that person are so extreme, they are so twisted and so barbaric that you can’t make peace with him or let him be.

    I don’t understand how you defend America so passionately on the one hand but on the other hand you criticise Musharraf, who was following an American policy regarding extremism in Pakistan. It doesn’t make sense.

    The Army, whether it was Zia ul Haq or Musharraf, has always been taking orders from America.

    And don’t forget Pakistan started as a democracy and at least for the first decade, Pakistan had civilian democratic rule. If they had ruled fairly and if corruption and incompetence had been low in the first place, there was never a need for the Army to intervene. It is the public and the civilians who have always welcomed the Army whenever they have intervened. When Musharraf first came to power, people used to distribute sweets in Lahore and Karachi.

    I guarantee you if the situation in Pakistan stays the same for 2 more years, people will beg Kayani to come to power. Now saying that this situation is like this because of Musharraf is a stupid argument. What good is the present government if they can’t improve the current situation? And why are they making things worse?

  180. #180 by khansahab on April 29, 2009 - 10:00 AM

    Pak shouldn’t even think of hosting any games: Imran

    Islamabad: Former Pakistan cricket captain Imran Khan feels young Indian pacer Ishant Sharma can go on to become an outstanding match-winner if he keeps himself injury-free.
    “Ishant Sharma is a great prospect in fast bowling, if he keeps himself injury free, he can become an outstanding match winning bowler,” Imran told Frank Huzur, the author of his soon-to-be published autobiography Imran vs Imran, in an interview.

    The cricketer-turned-politician said he had similar hopes from Ishant’s compatriot Irfan Pathan and New Zealand’s Shane Bond but both became lesser forces after a string on injuries.

    “I predicted the same for Irfan Pathan. When I saw Irfan four years ago, he was a genuine talent. A couple of years later, I noticed slump in his speed. Injury is one scare. There are certain phases in your career. I look back at Shane Bond, he was a potential fast bowler, but couldn’t sustain,” he said.

    Pakistan cricket has been left isolated due to the turmoil in the country and Imran said it could have been avoided had the nation prevented the Lahore terror attack on the Sri Lankan players.

    “It was the biggest security lapse, if we were able to pass through Sri Lankan series, we could have dreamt of World Cup games. Presidential security was promised, but ordinary security was on the offer. There was high-level Intelligence information about such attacks. This is unforgivable,” Imran said.

    “After the attacks, Pakistan should not even think of hosting any games. There should be absolutely no expectation whatsoever. I don’t foresee Pakistan cricket team playing more international games,” the former all-rounder added.

    Imran said the only way Pakistan cricket can survive the isolation is by strengthening the domestic structure. “They should focus on strengthening their domestic circuit. South Africa could survive the isolation of apartheid era in seventies and eighties due to their marvellous domestic structure. The Curry Cup of South Africa, like Sheffield Shield of Australia, is outstanding tournament,” he said.

    Looking back at his career, Imran said he would never have played in the Kerry Packer series had he known that the participating players would eventually be banned.

    “…if I were aware of my subsequent ban in world cricket, I wouldn’t have joined the league.”

  181. #181 by khansahab on April 29, 2009 - 11:31 AM

    ‘Ethnicity will continue to make and break states’

    Wednesday, 29 Apr, 2009

    KARACHI: Ethnicity is like a ticking time bomb and unless diversity is respected and democracy is encouraged, it can explode at any time. Also, ethnic identity will continue to play a role in the break-up and rebirth of the world’s states.

    This view was expressed by former federal minister Javed Jabbar speaking at a lecture titled ‘Ethnicity and other factors: state formation, de-formation and reformation’ held on Tuesday. The lecture was organised by the University of Karachi’s Area Study Centre for Europe (ASCE).

    ‘Ethnicity will remain a potent factor in formation, de-formation and reformation of states. Other factors also matter. Diversity must be respected and democracy must be encouraged. However, in the next 90 years we are likely to witness very volatile times,’ said Jabbar.

    He also observed that a Pakistani ethnic identity was still quite far away as he said ‘We are even more unique than Israel. Judaism has a very strong connection with ethnicity. It’ll take another two hundred to three hundred years’ for a Pakistani ethnic identity to develop.

    ‘We have not even begun to create a genetic Pakistani identity. Perhaps this will change after more inter-marriages’ between the different ethnic groups inhabiting the country.

    Javed Jabbar described the historical development of states in some detail as well as discussing some of the bloodiest ethnic conflicts of recent times, such as those of Kosovo and Chechnya.

    The former minister said the formation of states was a relatively recent phenomenon in man’s history and cited the Greek city states as an example, while observing that the modern evolution of states began in earnest with 1648’s Treaty of Westphalia.

    However, he said people often forget to mention the Madina city state founded by the Holy Prophet (PBUH) 1,400 years ago. Yet, he said, today both the holy cities of Makkah and Madina were under monarchical rule.

    ‘Man has had a limited experiment with statehood. We are really learning how to run a state.’

    Regarding the explosive growth of states in the modern era, Jabbar said that when the United Nations was formed in 1945, there were 50 member states; today there were 192, which came to about two new states a year. He attributed this growth to nations forming after the decline of colonialism as well as the fall of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

    He noted that there were six major factors contributing to the formation of states: continuity in land and people (ethnicity); states formed by invasion, conquest, migration and amalgamation; post-colonial constructs; integration of adjacent entities by war and revolution; religion-based states and finally, new entities arising from disintegration.

    With regard to the local context, Javed Jabbar said Quaid-i-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah’s 1948 speech in which he said that Urdu would be the only national language of Pakistan added to the alienation of the country’s former eastern wing.

    He said that when ethnicity mixed with religion it created ‘a potent mixture,’ specifically referring to the mostly Pakhtun composition of the Taliban, while he added that there were also several secular nationalist movements in Pakistan, such as that of Baloch nationalists, Sindhi nationalists as well as the Muttahida Qaumi Movement.

    Kosovo and Chechnya

    Comparing the troubled regions of Kosovo and Chechnya, Javed Jabbar said both these regions – the first a former Yugoslav province and the second a Caucasian republic under Russian administration – shared many things in common: they had Muslim majorities, both were conquered by non-Muslims as well as the fact that both experienced communist rule.

    Among the differences, he said that while Kosovo’s ‘liberation’ was supported by Nato and the US, Chechnya did not attract similar support. Also, Jabbar said that while ethnic upheaval increased in Kosovo after the Nato bombing targeting Serbian forces, Russian suppression in Chechnya was the same before and after the two wars Chechen separatists fought with the Russian state.

    He termed the western bombing of Kosovo ‘a show of remarkable compassion’ and an example of ‘new military humanism’.

    Prof Dr Naveed Ahmad Tahir, ASCE director, said in her introductory remarks that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights – adopted by the UN in 1948 – called for human beings to be treated without any discrimination.

    ‘States have violated this with impunity. Racial tensions have been fuelled by globalisation. Most states are multi-ethnic and have solved their problems through dialogue,’ she said. Prof Tahir added that ethnic issues have led to interventions by other states, specifically mentioning Indian military intervention in Sri Lanka as well as the ethnic trouble in the Caucasus.

    ‘(Ethnic problems) are a very serious challenge to modern states. They challenge governance and threaten domestic and external peace.’

  182. #182 by khansahab on April 29, 2009 - 11:36 AM

    In Pakastan the ethnic problems can be rectified by greater education of the masses, more urbanisation and elimination of the feudal system.

    Dividing provinces into administrative regions might also help. However, it will never happen in Sindh and more specfically around Karachi, which is the main hub of Pakastan’s ethnic problems.

  183. #183 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 29, 2009 - 1:52 PM

    Imran Khan is a dreamer and not a visionary. He can dream about anything and wake up like everyone else empty handed. He was a good cricket captain more like a dictator than a leader who uses diplomacy as his tools to succeed, Imran used danda in getting things done. Dropped and selected players he liked or, those who buttered him.

    His blue eyed boy was Mansoor Akhtar, he made him play umpteenth number of times and that idiot never took off, because he was a mediocre. Imran and Majid, before they turned up against each other, protected Wasim Bari and ruined the career of Taslim Arif who was a better wicketkeeper and a better batsman than Bari (Taslim Arif had a double century against Australia and his average is in 60’s, his only drawback was he was not so appealing to Imran Khan)

    He predicted about Sami to be the greatest bowler and after that Sami couldn’t perform whether it was the praise from Imran that got into Sami’s head or, whether it is an orchestrated scheme to gang up against Sami by those who don’t like him. In any case that was the end of Sami.

    He predicted about Younus Khan to be the best future captain for Pakistan and that went into his head he rejected the captaincy offer twice – without using his akhroat brain – and now we all are seeing the goody, goody smiley faces and the laid back attitude of YK which is not working in his favour. He wants to please the officials, selectors, manager, players and even the media. That is impossible. He should put his foot down in selecting the best team and prove that he is NOT A DUMMY CAPTAIN. I have my serious doubts that YK can stand on his own.

    That Imran’s snobbishness and arrogance can be seen in Afridi and he can lead the team better. I am not saying it is a very good quality, but that is the only way you need to deal with Pakistani players because, that is the only language they understand. On the ground Afridi doesn’t tolerate any nonsense whereas, YK keeps laughing and trying to be nice and that is not enough.

    Now, Indians should take this from me, ISHANT SHARMA kay DIN POORAY ho gaye! Already, that Lamboo got sudden and a lot of attention and praise in a very short period of time and he shot to stardom plus, he has got a lot of money from the IPL and since then his bowling is not that good. In fact recently in NZ he was smacked a lot by the NZ players – more sixes on his bowling than anyone else got – and now Imran is hitting a nail in Lamboo’s back by praising him.

  184. #184 by Mohammed Munir on April 29, 2009 - 5:04 PM

    Javed Khan …

    Great post and very nice comments.

    I almost fully am agreed with you all the way.

    I always liked Taslim Arif (ask Dennis Lilly) 😉 , but I did not know what were the reasons behind his exclusion.

  185. #185 by Mohammed Munir on April 29, 2009 - 5:07 PM

  186. #186 by Mohammed Munir on April 29, 2009 - 5:13 PM

    I read this following comment from an Indian, and he is so right about BCCI. He is talking about the news, “BCCI offers amnesty for ICL players”.

    Enjoy ….

    “This I guess is the last nail in the ICL’s coffin. BCCI has been bullish in denying ICL a fair run. The name itself suggests that BCCI wants to CONTROL the cricket in India as if it were an Epidemic. To make the matter worse ICC is coming with new laws to handle “unauthorized cricket” post May. Who these bunch of jokers are to suggest which form of cricket is allowed and which is not. Dictators like Pawar and Modi want to just make BCCI a profit making organization. BCCI is bringing shame to our country & the sport”.

    Posted by Shakti_Chittara on April 29 2009, 11:53 AM GMT (from Cricinfo)

  187. #187 by khansahab on April 29, 2009 - 5:27 PM

    I may have a slightly radical viewpoint, but I believe Pakistani cricketers should be working in academies and training centres within Pakistan, NOT in showbiz, foreign academies or running organisations etc.

    The latest example of Saqlain who has offered to coach Australia. I don’t understand why he can’t offer his services within Pakistan? The answer is money.

    Wasim wants to coach in India, Saqlain wants to coach in Australia- what is this? Wasim will do anything for money whether it is dance, appear on a reality show, sing, anything.

    It is very unfortunate that if these people coach at the lower level, they will only earn in a few thousands. The country has given them so much and they are millionaires; at least they can give something back to the country and stay in Pakistan?

    They can have a full time coaching role in Pakistan and maybe take temporary assignments elsewhere in the world from time to time.

  188. #188 by khansahab on April 29, 2009 - 5:39 PM

    Younis Khan can’t be serious!

    “Captaincy a reason for poor form”

    Younus Khan has admitted the extra burden of being Pakistan captain may be the reason for his form slump against Australia.

    Younus took over from Shoaib Malik as captain in January this year and had made a dream start to his third stint in the role when he scored 313 in the first Test of the ill-fated series against Sri Lanka.

    His form in the ODI series against Australia has however, been far from his best as he has scored just 39 runs at an average of just 13.

    The 31-year-old right-hander has, however, not been alone in struggling for runs with Pakistan having been bowled out in the previous two encounters, which both ultimately ended in defeat and resulted in them trailing the five-match series 2-1.

    “It is a matter of concern because as a senior batsman I am expected to score runs,” Younus said.

    “I have to lead by example especially at a time when our batting is not firing.

    “It could be that the captaincy has affected my batting, but it is not something I am not used to.

    “I have scored runs as captain before and I can do it again.”

    Pakistan’s problems with the bat were highlighted in the third game in Abu Dhabi, when they failed to chase down Australia’s meagre score of 198.

    Openers Salman Butt and Ahmed Shehzad had set a solid foundation with a 95-run stand, but the misfiring middle order again quickly folded – including Younus who was out for a first ball duck – as Pakistan were bowled out for 171 and crashed to a 27-run defeat.

    “Our batting has struggled and perhaps it is because we have not played against a top international side in the last two years,” Younus said.

    “The batsmen should show more application and responsibility.

    “That goes for me as well.”

    Younus, however, ruled out changes in the team for the fourth one-dayer on Friday.

    “We have very experienced players in the middle-order and you can’t drop them just because they have failed in two or three matches,” he added.

    “In any case I can’t drop Misbah-ul-Haq because he is the vice-captain of the team.

    “I cannot drop Shoaib Malik because then the media would say I dropped the former captain

    “I’m sure they would both find form quickly.”

  189. #189 by Awas on April 29, 2009 - 6:56 PM

    So, basically it goes without saying what I had mentioned earlier in comment 151 “…the people that matter in selecting the final eleven such as captain prefer to stick with tried and tested players with international experience” and that even Inzamam didn’t want to drop Razzaq despite his failures.

    I don’t necessarily agree with above logic but it says something about the mindset of captains.

  190. #190 by khansahab on April 29, 2009 - 7:00 PM

    I was watching the interview of a senior cricket journalist, Munir Hussain, and he was asked about the real story behind Miandad’s resignation as DG of the PCB.

    He said that Ijaz Butt is a “shareef aadmi” and that someone maliciously persuaded Butt to degrade Miandad in this way. He said he knew names but would not speak of them.

    He said that Miandad was verbally informed by Butt that he would have all powers that are given as standard to a Director General. Miandad signed the contract without reading it because he trusted Ijaz Butt. But neither of them knew what was written in the agreement.

    Later Miandad was told that his role would only be limited to domestic cricket. This, Miandad believed was an insult and he resigned. Miandad told Butt that if Butt wanted someone to manage domestic cricket, he could hire any manager instead of hiring Miandad.

    Munir Hussain also said that this was a conspiracy against Miandad, planned by those powerful forces that have been against Miandad ever since he rose to fame as a world class batsman. Hussain added that these forces did not tolerate Miandad becoming a great player then, and have been trying their best to ensure Miandad has no association with Pakistan cricket now.

  191. #191 by Awas on April 29, 2009 - 7:38 PM

    I have a slightly different take on Taslim Arif.

    Between Bari and Taslim Arif, it was not like the competition that we had between Rashid Latif and Moin Khan. Rashid Latif was definitely a better keeper between the two but it would be debatable to say who was better between Rashid Latif and Wasim Bari, except that its pertinent to mention that Allan Knott, perhaps the best wicket keeper of his era, when asked who he considers a better keeper, he mentioned Bari was better than him. So, that says something. Whereas, Taslim Arif may have been a better batsman but he only played 6 tests with 9 dismissals for anyone to make a reasonable comparison with Bari. Besides, wicket keepers are primarily picked on their keeping not batting. The fact of the matter is that Bari was a pretty good keeper of his time even though he was a mediocre selector and PCB official thereafter. Likewise, one could say about Wasim Akram as one of the best bowler Pakistan ever had despite the way he is – two different things.

    On Taslim Arif’s profile, Cricinfo mentions this: “But with Wasim Bari a vastly superior gloveman, Taslim only played six Tests”.

  192. #192 by Mohammed Munir on April 30, 2009 - 5:39 AM

    How can you blame your poor performance on Captaincy? Why did not Younis say anything when he scored 313 after being made Captain?

    This is a major problem with Younis Khan, he is NOT “owning” the Captaincy decision.

    Younis thinks he is being “made” a Captain, and it’s not what he essentially sought for.

    Simple rule in life … if you get something without working hard for it, you will never value it as much.

    I say, make Afridi the Captain for ODI team, while let Younis be there as Captain for the Tests.

  193. #193 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 8:17 AM

    Munir sahab

    I agree with you there. Saying captaincy is affecting his batting is a poor excuse. He has never been a good batsman against Australia.


    I read that article yesterday which you have posted and I feel sorry for this guy and his family. The Pashtuns who are not associated with the Taliban are good and honourable people, and Pakistan is proud of them.

  194. #194 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 8:18 AM

    Younis plans to build a hopsital in Mardan

    ABU DHABI: Pakistan cricketers inaugurated an orthopedic and sports injury centre at the Life Line Hospital here on Wednesday. Captain Younis Khan formally cut the ribbon to inaugurate the centre in presence of Misbahul Haq, Shoaib Malik, Shahid Aridi, Salman Butt and Umar Gul. Seeing the facilities, Younis lauded the services of the hospital and said sports had become an industry and sportsmen were getting injured quite frequently. “Such type of centre will help them to rehabilitate in a better way,” he added. Younis said he would also build a hospital in his hometown Mardan when he retires from cricket.

  195. #195 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 8:36 AM



    Karachi tense after fatal clashes

    Paramilitary troops are out in force in the Pakistani city of Karachi, with tension high a day after ethnic clashes killed at least 24 people.

    A security forces spokesman said the situation was under control but there was concern of more violence when funerals of victims are held later.

    The clashes were said to be between Urdu-speakers and ethnic Pashtuns.

    Separately, President Asif Ali Zardari called for national unity in tackling militants in the restive north-west.

    Pakistani troops this week launched operations in the Lower Dir and Buner regions to remove Taleban militants who had spread there from their stronghold in Swat.

    Obama’s concern

    In Karachi, a spokesman from the Pakistan Rangers paramilitary force told Reuters news agency: “We have heavy deployment of troops across the city, and they have been told to go to any extent to control the situation, including shoot at sight orders for miscreants.”

    He added: “The situation is under control now, but keeping in view the incidents of yesterday, traffic is pretty thin.”

    About 25 people have been arrested in connection with the shootings.

    There is reduced public transport and schools are closed.

    Karachi has a history of ethnic violence.

    Relatives in Karachi
    The clashes were said to be between Urdu-speakers and ethnic Pashtuns

    It is dominated by Urdu-speakers, but there is also a growing population of ethnic Pashtuns.

    Officials said the fighting was between members of the two groups, and started after an unidentified man opened fire, killing three members of the Urdu-speaking Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM).

    Most of the dead in the violence were Pashtuns.

    Police said 16 cars, 20 shops and eight hotels were set on fire on Wednesday.

    In the north-west, the military is continuing its operations in Buner, less than 100km (60 miles) from the capital, Islamabad.

    On Wednesday it said it had taken control of the key town of Dagar.

    The army said hundreds of Taleban fighters had spread to Buner after a peace deal.

    The peace deal sets up Sharia law in parts of the region in return for an end to the Taleban insurgency.

    However, the Taleban have not laid down their arms.

    The army says fighting in Lower Dir has ended.

    On Wednesday, Mr Zardari said Pakistan was facing a “critical hour” in tackling the militants.

    “The time has come for the entire nation to give pause to their political differences and rise to the occasion and give full support to our security forces,” a presidential statement said.

    Also on Wednesday, US President Barack Obama again said he was “gravely concerned about the situation in Pakistan”.

    “I’m more concerned that the civilian government there right now is very fragile,” he said.

  196. #196 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 9:08 AM

    Captain Khan laughs off losses

    Pakistan captain Younus Khan laughs gleefully as he recalls a spectacular batting collapse by his side earlier this week.

    An Australian skipper showing such public amusement at his side’s failure would quickly be out of a job.

    But with his homeland rife with bombs and bullets and the memory of the Lahore attack on the Sri Lankan team fresh in his mind, Younus sees no point getting upset about a cricket match.

    “You will see me any time when we lose 4-0 or something I will come into the press conference laughing, because I feel like that,” he said.

    It is not the end of life, it is only cricket, only sport, so one team must lose, so what’s the point?

    “Like (Monday’s batting collapse against Australia), it was very funny how we lose this game, I’m always like that.

    Some people say ‘he’s mad’, I’m not mad, this is fun.

    “Because maybe I’ll be not here next time or maybe I’ll go there and there’s a bomb and I’ll die, so what’s the point?”

    Dark emotions

    But darker emotions, anger and guilt, surface when the Lahore incident is brought up.

    Gunmen attacked the Sri Lankans as they were travelling to Gaddafi Stadium for a scheduled day of Test cricket against Pakistan on March 3, killing six policeman and two civilians and injuring seven Sri Lankan players.

    Younus, whose team’s bus was five minutes behind the Sri Lankans’, was left with an enormous sense of guilt.

    “I feel very very guilty as a nation,” he said.

    “Because we are Muslims and we always look after our friends, it is in our blood, not in our culture, in our blood. If anyone visits us or even sometimes our enemy as well, we look after them very well.

    “It’s very sad for us, especially it is the first time any incident happening with the sports, especially with the cricket.

    “When this happened every single person, my friends and anybody who had my number called me and said ‘Please, please, please look after the Sri Lankans.'”

    Had he been in the firing line he would no longer be playing.

    “Thanks to God we were not there because if there were any bullets in my foot or my chest straight away I would be no cricket, straight away I would retire,” he said.

    He is angered at the thought that the perpetrators might regard themselves as Muslims, a religion which Younus says has humility, kindness, generosity and regard for human life as some of its most basic tenets.

    “It’s a couple of mad guys,” he said. “In a 100 people there are only five per cent that think like that and do these silly things like bombing, this is the whole problem.”

    Writing on the wall

    He said the moment the Pakistan players heard what had happened, they saw the writing on the wall for cricket in their nation.

    They have been stripped of the right to co-host the 2011 World Cup and will have no international cricket at home in the foreseeable future.

    Younus is sure the game will survive in his country, given its immense popularity, but pessimistic about the effect it will have on the standard.

    One problem he envisages is that, with no international exposure, sponsorship will disappear, meaning less money filtering into maintaining grounds and practice facilities at the grassroots level.
    Another is that the next generation will not have cricketing idols nearby to inspire them, after Younus’s generation grew up watching the likes of Imran Khan and Javed Miandad.

    He has pleaded the nation’s cause with the International Cricket Council and wants subcontinental cricketing neighbours India, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh to band with Pakistan to ensure cricket stays in the region.

    He said the four nations had a common interest in that all had security concerns and that India and Pakistan in particular needed each other, because of their great rivalry.

    Younus was also desperate for Australia to tour Pakistan, something that last occurred in 1998, saying Pakistan fans were “mad about” Australian cricketers.

    To inspire his team for the current one-day series in the United Arab Emirates, he used the highly optimistic reasoning that if Pakistan defeated Australia, Australia would be more likely to tour to try to turn the tables.

    He was hopeful that the frenetically changing nature of Pakistan cricket, with constant turnover of captains and wild swings between good and bad form, would be reflected by equally rapid change in their political landscape.

    “Maybe soon inshallah (God willing) you people (Australia) will be there and everything will be changed,” he said.

  197. #197 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 10:11 AM

    The following link is of a programme on the Pakistani channel “News One”.

    The presenter reveals that the wife of Latif Khosa, the Attorney General of Pakastan, has forcefully occupied someone’s house and the homeowner is receiving death threats so that she shuts up.

    Khosa is a close associate of CJ Choudhary and someone who has worked hard to get Choudhary reinstated.

    He also reveals that Shaukat Tareen, a minister has defaulted on a massive loan and his bank that is claiming the money is also receiving threats.

  198. #198 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 10:24 AM

    What happened on 12 May 2007?

    This programme has 9 links, watch them on Youtube:

  199. #199 by Mohammed Munir on April 30, 2009 - 10:36 AM

    “We will learn a lot from this experience, by playing against the Australian team.”
    Younis Khan.

    Is Younis Khan proving to be another Shoaib Malik for Pakistan ??

  200. #200 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 10:44 AM

    Footage of how young men have been killed on orders of Mian Nawaz and Shahbaz Sharif.

    Journalists claim the Sharif brothers get people killed everyday like this:

  201. #201 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 30, 2009 - 11:01 AM

    LOL, I was browsing on cricinfo and read this line: “We will learn a lot from this experience, by playing against the Australian team.” Younis Khan, The first thought that came to my mind was, he has picked up this line from Shoaib Malik. How long are they going to learn? International matches are not about learning but, DELIVERING. The way the Pakistani players are playing, they aren’t even good to deliver a PIZZA.

    The actor is likely to play in place of Yasir Arafat, reportedly to add fire to the pace battery which is already dead. Why can’t they drop a fast bowler and pick up an additional spinner in Fawad Alam? It will also strengthen the batting department. UKP was a mild comment, they understand, EMP, EBP etc. where E stands for Ena-dee and M for Maa dee etc., …. and that too with a Danda.

    It is very strange that no one, even from the media questioned Intekhab Alam that what was he doing when Pakistani batsmen forgot to take the batting power play? What was he doing? Snoozing? Earlier we had a team manager in Talat Ali Malik who used to wear dark glasses all the time and take a snooze. And now, we have Intekhab Alam who can sleep with eyes wide open.

  202. #202 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 1:01 PM

    Australia all-rounder Shane Watson confident injury woes are over

    By Sam Lienert

    April 30, 2009 .Australia all-rounder Shane Watson is confident a revamped bowling technique has him finally ready to cope with sustained cricket without his body letting him down.

    With back stress fractures which forced him out of cricket last November the latest in a long line of injuries, Watson is making a comeback in gradual stages during Australia’s current one-day series against Pakistan in the United Arab Emirates.

    He has played purely as a batsman during the first three games of the five-match series and will do so again in the final two 50-over matches on Friday and Monday in Abu Dhabi.

    But he has been incrementally ramping up the pace with his bowling in the nets ahead of a return to competitive bowling in the one-off Twenty20 match against Pakistan in Dubai on May 7.

    With more Twenty20 games to follow in the Indian Premier League and then the Twenty20 World Cup, he is confident that by the time the Ashes begin in July he will be ready to handle a Test bowling workload, if the selectors show faith in him.

    So far he has restricted himself to four-over spells in the nets to condition himself for the shortest version of the game.

    “It’s the perfect lead-up to get my body back to bowling without really jumping in to a four-day game and bowling a lot of overs, it’s a good build-up,” Watson said.

    “The goal for the last six weeks, or since I got the call-up to play here was to bowl in the Twenty20 game here, last game of the tour.

    “Things have progressed really well since I started bowling, I’m up to 90 per cent off the long run, I’ve got three more sessions before that game.”

    Having spent his rehabilitation period working on a more side-on action, he believes it will prevent a recurrence of the stress fractures.

    And he said he had also got his body into condition to avoid the other injury woes that have made his international career so far a stop-start affair, with only eight Tests to his name.

    “I’m confident, up until I had my stress fracture everything else in my body was feeling great and going really well, the soft tissue injuries I’ve had, the things that I have been doing have really helped that,” he said.

    “To be able to play 10 months in a row of cricket for me (last year) was great and the things I was able to achieve and get back to were really exciting for me.

    “In the time off I was able to work on a few things in my batting as well, I’ve made the most of the time I’ve had off.”

    But he admitted there would be some butterflies when he returns to the bowling crease in the May 7 match.

    “It will be nervous moreso because it will be the first time I bowl in a game,” he said.

    Meanwhile, Pakistan have dropped off-spinner Saeed Ajmal, who is under investigation over his bowling action, for Friday’s match.

    Spinning all-rounder Fawad Alam replaces Ajmal, while crowd favourite paceman Shoaib Akhtar returns to the side in place of Sohail Tanvir.

  203. #203 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 1:33 PM

    Karachi can be a model city for the world. It is a city with tremendous potential. Asaf Zardari upon becoming the President said Karachi will be like Dubai in the future.

    It is the only place in Pakistan where anyone from any corner of the country can go and search for a better life. Indeed, 52% of the city’s inhabitants are non-Muhajirs. After Muhajirs the largest numbers are of Punjabis followed by Pathans. In the last 3 to 6 months, more than 300,000 Pathans have migrated to Karachi.

    On behalf of LS management I appeal to every reader to please do all you can to promote peace and stability for all ethnicities in Pakastan. Karachi needs to work, because a peaceful Karachi will show Pakistanis that Pakastan can work.


    The Karachi question: Ethnicity or extremism?

    Once again, Karachi is burning, and everyone has a theory. On April 29, at least 29 people were killed in an escalating wave of violence across the port city. Most of the dead were Pathan, though the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) also claimed losses. Even before funeral processions were organised and the last fires were doused, politicians began finger pointing.

    Speaking from London, MQM chief Altaf Hussain appealed for peace, indirectly blaming the Taliban for the recent urban violence. He claimed that criminal elements belonging to the land and drug mafia were stirring trouble with the support – in the form of arms and money – of the Taliban. Meanwhile, Pakistan Muslim League chief Nawaz Sharif hinted at the ethnic dimensions of the clashes, pointing out that Karachi’s residents were being pitted against each other as part of a larger plot. For his part, Minister of State for Ports and Shipping, Nabeel Gabol, claimed that the fighting had been instigated by a ‘foreign agency’ that is working in collaboration with a religious party.

    Outside political circles, there is an assumption that this week’s killings are the result of a long-standing ethnic rivalry between Karachi’s Urdu-speaking and Pashto-speaking communities. Newspaper reports, for example, have described the clashes as ‘ethnic violence’ and city police chief Wasim Ahmed even split up Wednesday’s death toll as ‘16 Pathans and three Urdu-speaking people.’

    What explains the resurgence in Karachi violence? Is it an attempt by the city’s ethnic stakeholders to drawn new battle lines? Or are the recent clashes somehow connected to the broader militant threat that Pakistan is currently wrestling?

    The politics of militancy

    For almost a year, the MQM has been warning against the Talibanisation of Karachi. The party’s cautionary rhetoric gained resonance when the MQM became the only political force to resist the passage of the Nizam-i-Adl Regulation, which has established qazi courts in NWFP’s Malakand division. In all their anti-Taliban speechifying, MQM leaders are careful to point out that they are not targeting an ethnic group. As Naib Nazim Nasrin Jalil puts it, ‘Pashtuns are not all Taliban, but some of them are harboring the Taliban. It’s impossible to identify militants from others.’

    But members of Karachi’s Pashto-speaking community argue that the MQM is making no effort to distinguish between honest workers and militants. ‘The MQM is playing up the issue of Talibanisation for political gain,’ says Ameen Khattak, the secretary general of the Awami National Party (ANP) in Sindh. They’re trying to attract the attention of the international community while pursuing their hidden agenda.’

    In fact, ANP officials claim that the threat of Talibanisation in Karachi is being over-stated by the MQM. They point out that the Pashto-speaking community, which has been targeted by Taliban militants in Pakistan’s tribal and northern areas, is most at risk. ‘Who will they kill first?’ asks Khattak. ‘They’ve killed 150 ANP workers in Swat and will do the same in Karachi.’ He adds that the ANP is determined to stave off the extremist threat: ‘We have assured the MQM that if they provide specifics of Taliban influence in the city, we’ll work together to combat the Taliban.’

    The Taliban factor

    While they disagree about the extent to which Karachi has been Talibanised, MQM and ANP leadership do agree that militancy is on the rise in Pakistan’s commercial hub. Party leaders on both sides admit that fund-raising for militant activities is rampant. MQM chief Hussain’s comments that the Taliban is now enmeshed with the local land and drug mafia point to the well documented fact that militants and criminals have joined hands to carry out robberies and kidnappings, the gains of which are used to finance terrorism in the northern areas and Federally Adminstered Tribal Areas (Fata).

    Indeed, officials of the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) have stated that over one billion rupees have been raised by criminals in Karachi over the past two years to finance jihad. The Citizens-Police Liaison Committee has also confirmed that ransom money in many high-profile kidnappings is being collected in Fata. Faisal Sabzwari, an MQM leader and the Sindh minister for youth affairs, adds that ‘land grabbing in the name of religion’ is also on the rise.

    In this context, ANP’s Khattak admits that some members of the Pashto-speaking community are connected with the Taliban through ‘chanda’ (alms). ‘People based in Karachi may be paying off the Taliban to keep their families in the northern areas safe,’ he explains.

    Beyond criminal activities, both MQM and ANP leaders point to the resurgence of banned sectarian outfits such as Jaish-e-Mohammad, Laskar-e-Taiba and Lashakar-e-Jhangvi as the biggest threat facing Karachi (particularly in the wake of last November’s Mumbai attacks). As a police officer stationed in Karachi’s Sohrab Goth puts it: ‘The Taliban are only in Karachi to the extent that they’re reaching out to militants who have been based here for decades.’ According to the CID, there are over 5,000 trained militants with ties to banned militant groups currently stationed in the city.

    Since the leadership of these militant groups trace their origins to the Punjab and Siraiki belt, how has an ethnic clash between mohajirs and Pathans hijacked the conversation about urban Talibanisation?

    Drawing battle lines

    In recent months, MQM party workers have been mobilizing, by their account, to ward off the Taliban threat. Hussain has called for Karachiites to arm themselves and take up martial arts training. Naib nazim Jalil adds that MQM has reinstated a ‘chowkidari’ (neighbourhood watch) system in mohajir localities. ‘Our activists are physically protecting their areas,’ she says. Moreover, the City District Government Karachi has requested that Rangers and paramilitary personnel be deployed in sensitive spots across the city.

    On another level, MQM has increased vigilance across the city. ‘No other party can boast the grassroots level set-up that the MQM has,’ says Sabzwari. ‘We have been involved in ground-level information collection for some time now. Our people let us know what’s happening in their areas.’ He explains that MQM activists monitor unusual activities at mosques and note the presence of foreigners or strangers in different neighbourhoods. Noteworthy information is then passed on to the Sindh and federal governments.

    Karachi’s Pashto-speaking community views this mobilization as an attempt to consolidate MQM’s stranglehold over the city and target the Pathan population. ‘There are between three and four million peace-loving Pathans in Karachi,’ says Khattak. ‘But the MQM is watching them all as if they are criminals, pretending to be on the look out for the Taliban.’ He points to several areas where MQM activists or security personnel have in effect cordoned off Pathan areas from the rest of the city. ‘If things go on like this, Karachi will be the next Beirut. The city has already been carved up and the battle lines are being drawn.’

    MQM’s leadership rejects Khattak’s analysis of the situation. ‘It’s not an ethnic issue,’ insists Sabzwari. ‘It’s a criminal issue. It’s an issue of law and order. What can we do if the criminals happen to come from Pashto-speaking localities? Is it my fault if Baitullah Mehsud’s right-hand man was caught in Karachi?’ [Badshah Deen was arrested in Karachi’s Sachal area on April 13.] He adds that ANP is giving a simple law and order situation an ‘ethnic run’ so as to consolidate its vote bank.

    Caught in the crossfire

    Either way, it is Karachiites who end up dead. Anayat Khan, a fruit seller at Bacha Khan chowk in Karachi’s Benaras area, says a ‘political game’ is under way. ‘There are no Taliban here,’ he says. ‘We listen to music, we have functions, are women go shopping. The only people we have to fear are the workers of a certain political party.’

    Meanwhile, across town, Naeem Hussain, a resident of Azizabad, shakes his head. ‘The city is completely shut down, even though the end of the month is so important for business. We’re just trying to live our lives … I don’t know who to believe anymore.’

  204. #204 by Awas on April 30, 2009 - 2:38 PM


    Hear, hear…
    I endorse your views of peace and tolerance in Karachi…and that goes for the rest of Pakistan as well.

  205. #205 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 30, 2009 - 4:29 PM

    Btw, Ajmal has been fined for making comments to the media against the Australian team. His reaction was upon the suspect bowling action, which the Australians did not report but, the umpires themselves have reported it to the ICC. Ajmal was fined by the Pakistan Cricket Board for comments directed to Shane Watson and Younis Khan, asked why Australia are involved in so many controversies when they face India and Pakistan?. There was no need for him to vent out his frustration against Australians, especially since they have nothing to do with that.

    Secondly, after a long time they are playing against them so, why not play in good spirits? And, good spirits does not mean you play like Younus Khan, keep getting out cheaply and laugh. Display poor and defensive captaincy and laugh. He can be a La Vache qui Rit or the laughing cow. Luckily he is not as fat as a cow, so he better stop acting like a clown.

  206. #206 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 4:42 PM


    The pic you have sent me is of Azeem Rafiq, the county player. He is not from London, and neither is he your age. He is an offspinner whereas you are a legspinner.

    And Azeem plays for Yorkshire, not the London counties. So why are you wasting your and my time?

  207. #207 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 30, 2009 - 4:46 PM

    whats the problem with this kid? He cannot upload his own picture? Every single girl who writes here on LS has uploaded her own picture and they keep changing off and on, and this kiddo is trying to impress who? Abdul pagalon kay sir pay seengh nahee hotay, woh harkataon say boojhay jaatay. Grow up and stop bugging khansahab for uploading your picture, which is not yours…….. Neither khansahab’s nor Awas’ have their own photos but we all know whose picture is that, whereas, you want to disguise and tell us you are so and so, whereas you are not. If that is the case why not upload Rani Mukerjee’s photo as yours?

  208. #208 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 6:22 PM

    I haven’t accepted captaincy to drop players like Misbah and Malik – Younis

    Karachi: Pakistan captain Younis Khan feels the added burden of captaincy may have affected his batting but has promised a return to form in the remaining two matches of the one-day series against Australia in UAE.

    Younis, who celebrated his ascent to captaincy in February by scoring a match-saving 313 against Sri Lanka in the first Test in Karachi, has completely flopped in the first three ODIs against Australia in Dubai and Abu Dhabi.

    He has just scored 27 runs in the three games and Pakistan is trailing the series 1-2 against the Australians.

    May be it’s the captaincy that’s affecting my performance,” he said on Wednesday. “It could have affected my concentration but I’m sure the runs will come soon,” he added.

    Younis, 31, is the backbone of the Pakistani batting line in the absence of Mohammad Yousuf, who was blacklisted by Pakistan after he switched to the rebel Indian Cricket League last year.

    The skipper is not the only senior batsman in the Pakistan team to have struggled against the Australians in the series. Former captain Shoaib Malik and the current vice-captain Misbah-ul-Haq are also going through a bad patch.

    When asked why he is against the idea of dropping either Misbah or Malik, Younis made it clear that he is not in favour of any such move.

    “I haven’t accepted captaincy to drop players like Misbah and Malik,” he said. “If I do that the entire Pakistan will start complaining. If I drop Misbah, they will say I have gotten rid of the vice-captain and if I drop Malik they will stay that first he took away the captaincy from him and now a place in the team.”

    Younis said that he is confident that Malik and Misbah will soon playing the big knocks that Pakistan is urgently seeking from its seniors pros.

    “I scored a couple of ducks in Bangladesh last year and then scored a century. I’m sure that similarly, Malik and Misbah will also regain their form.”

    Younis stressed that his batsmen will have to learn to play well under pressure. “We lost the last match (against) Australia because our batsmen were unable to bat under pressure,” he said.

  209. #209 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 6:53 PM


    You have such a low opinion of me (and a high opinion of yourself) 🙂

    Knowing you I was not surprised!!

    I am agree that you will nevertheless send me a proper one in the future- because I expect to receive it!

  210. #210 by Abdul on April 30, 2009 - 7:15 PM

    U have now recieved it.

    “You have such a low opinion of me “. I actually rate U as a very high educated graduate and one of the best cricket writers there are around. I rate u up there with Osman Sami.. and Kamran. Personally I think u are better than me from both a technical and analytic point of view.

  211. #211 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 30, 2009 - 7:18 PM

    There is something called “Buttering the Butt of the Bread.” And, some people are good at it.

  212. #212 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 30, 2009 - 7:19 PM


    Younus ki tou baat hee na kero
    Younus tou Liwanna ho gaya!

  213. #213 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 7:37 PM


    Why are you buttering me and what do you want from me?

  214. #214 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 7:40 PM


    I am the one who edited your immature comment. Stop misbehaving. You don’t look like a simpleton from your face, if that is indeed your real picture.

  215. #215 by khansahab on April 30, 2009 - 9:29 PM

    If Fawad replaces Ajmal, it will be a bad move because Fawad should replace Misbah.

    If Ajmal had one mediocre game he should not be penalised because it will make him feel worse; firstly, having his action scrutinised and secondly being dropped after only one bad game.

    Younis should have guts. I don’t know what fearlessness about Younis Imran Khan talks about, because what Younis is doing is not fearless at all.

  216. #216 by Awas on May 1, 2009 - 11:55 AM

    Can’t Malik “add a few” as well 🙂

  217. #217 by Awas on May 1, 2009 - 12:55 PM

    That’s it then…if you give Malik a life, he scores a century 🙂

  218. #218 by Theossa on May 1, 2009 - 12:57 PM

    Hats off to Ahmad Shehzad for playing his heart out, he is a rookie, a youngster, and is playing against the world champions under some tough conditions on a tricky wicket. I always liked him and insisted on his inclusion in the team. Why Misbah and the rest of seniors lose their wicket and cannot capitalize by scoring 50s and 100s when they are on the wicket for a while? It seems like they get out often by scoring runs between 30s and 40s. Malik just survived a caught behind chance and I hope he takes the charge from here on and focus on singles and doubles and support the rookie. It’s a shame that a lot will depend on the innings by rookie Shehzad. If Pakistan can keep 5 wickets in hand for the last 40 overs they can put a descent total on the board. I wouldn’t worry about run rate at this point now and would rather concentrate on playing safe. I’m sure with some big hitters like Afridi, Akmal, and Akhtar we can accelerate the run rate at the end. I don’t want to sound too optimistic like Younis but I predict a Pak win today.

  219. #219 by Theossa on May 1, 2009 - 1:37 PM

    Never mind about my prediction, LOL.

  220. #220 by Awas on May 1, 2009 - 1:41 PM

    It’s looking like a procession again.

    They should go back and learn how to bat first. If they cant even bat on slow and low home like pitches then may as well just give up and let the youngsters take over.

  221. #221 by khansahab on May 1, 2009 - 1:54 PM

    Well done Ahmed Shahzad.

    Hopefully Pakistan has found a future opener.

    But no Fawad Alam. What an outrage.

    Misbah needs to sit out in the next match.

    Shame on Younis for not playing Fawad Alam.

  222. #222 by khansahab on May 1, 2009 - 2:01 PM

    How long does Pakistan want to persist with Misbah?

    Misbah has lost Pakistan more matches than won.

    He played against South Africa and his performance was the same as against Australia. He has failed this series. He made 30 odd today but it was very slow and not fitting for an experienced batsman who is the vice captain of the team.

    Afridi has been brilliant this series. He deserves to be made captain with Butt or Gul as his deputy.

  223. #223 by Theossa on May 1, 2009 - 2:02 PM

    I’m sure Fawad is much better player than this tried and tested bust Yasir Arafat, what a ball-less player!

  224. #224 by Awas on May 1, 2009 - 2:18 PM


    “…ball-less player” he may be…but he did hit the only six so far

  225. #225 by Theossa on May 1, 2009 - 2:20 PM

    Akmal should open with Salman Butt with Shehzad to follow. Younis should come at no.4 followed by Malik and Misbah. I would replace Yasir with Fawad. With Afridi gone now even 200 will be tough to achieve. One observation though, both these Dubai and Abu Dhabi venues are not ODI standard wickets. We are probably playing to Australian strengths.

  226. #226 by Theossa on May 1, 2009 - 2:23 PM


    Yasir hit the six after “Aleem Dar eik aor kha gaya”. Fawad is more complete batsman than Yasir who at the moment is just cementing his spot in the team.

  227. #227 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 1, 2009 - 2:23 PM

    Once again inept batting by Pakistan. There is not a single player who can make a 50. Afridi who was playing sensibly for the first time got a sudden rush of blood that he must make use of the batting power play and got out on a pre-determined shot.

    Misbah got a life, first ball he faced, he nicked and Aleem Dar said, he did not hear and Misbah once again took too many balls to score his 30 odd runs.

    And what a stupid shot YK played? He played an inside edge of Bracken in the previous over which missed the stumps by a few inches and he got a risky 4 out of it and then in the next over he was out by an inside edge crashing on to his stumps. Seems like he did not learn from his mistake. According Boycott the gap between his bat and pad was so wide that he could drive his car through.

  228. #228 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 1, 2009 - 2:26 PM

    The tail-enders must whack from now onwards and take some risks to take the score past 200 and it is possible. Anything over that should be a bonus.

  229. #229 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 1, 2009 - 2:29 PM

    Theo no that was not a nick, it was shown in slow motion and it wasn’t a catch, so Aleem Dar had only one. Whatson dropped a sitter. And this time they took the catch……….. Now comes the Actor

  230. #230 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 1, 2009 - 2:36 PM

    What a shame they couldn’t make 200 and Bollinger took 5 wickets. Pakistan has this honour of making mediocre bowlers into heroes.

  231. #231 by Awas on May 1, 2009 - 2:41 PM

    Mediocre or not but this bowler definitely deserves a bottle of Bollinger for his 5 for…

  232. #232 by Awas on May 1, 2009 - 2:46 PM


    I’m all for players like Fawad as I said in my comment above:

    It’s looking like a procession again.
    They should go back and learn how to bat first. If they cant even bat on slow and low home like pitches then may as well just give up and let the youngsters take over

  233. #233 by Abdul on May 1, 2009 - 3:03 PM

    Khansahab why han’t my pic been uploaded yet ?

  234. #234 by Theossa on May 1, 2009 - 3:10 PM


    One thing we are forgetting here is the rustiness of players. Except for Afridi who banks on sharp eye and arm strength everyone else looks out of sorts at the crease. Slow pitches which assist the bowlers do not help either. Before the series this rustiness was expected but as the series went on we are back to our usual criticism. Even our sharpest players like Gul and Tanvir looked rusty. Let’s face it, every one of us want a couple of players dropped and couple added. If we put too many youngsters in the team we will dip even more. Let the players get into some groove by playing more matches. I know this is not the best Australian side but this is not the best Pakistan side either. Even the strongest Pak teams had trouble beating Australia. It could be a mental thing or it could be just that they are a better team than us. Having said that let’s hope Pak gives Australia a run for their money, maybe it’s time for a AAA i.e.Akhtar, Afridi, Ajmal magic?

  235. #235 by Abdul on May 1, 2009 - 3:13 PM

    I am indeed waiting as I’m sure the other bloggers will be ……

  236. #236 by Awas on May 1, 2009 - 3:26 PM


    Fair assessment…I can’t disagree with much you said here. I had mentioned on these lines above as well when I said captains do prefer experienced players despite their failures and there is some justification in that on the lines you mentioned.

    I get the feeling your reluctant prediction might just come true. So, let’s hope “maybe it’s time for a AAA”. Despite that it’s a shame they still won’t enjoy a bottle of Bollinger 🙂

  237. #237 by Theossa on May 1, 2009 - 3:34 PM

    LOL, one A that is Akhtar is firing canons; let’s hope the other two As also fire when they come to the attack. Oh, how about little help from fourth A i.e. Aleem 😀

  238. #238 by Awas on May 1, 2009 - 3:42 PM

    I would rather leave the 4th A, a secret weapon alone 🙂

  239. #239 by Theossa on May 1, 2009 - 3:45 PM

    Looks like that would be fourth weapon backfired when he didn’t give Watson out, could have been a difference making decision 😦

  240. #240 by Awas on May 1, 2009 - 5:12 PM

    That Jammal is bowling economically…but the end is nigh

  241. #241 by khansahab on May 1, 2009 - 5:19 PM

    This is ridiculous. Not playing Fawad Alam is hurting the team.

    Younis should learn the hard way or he should be axed.

    In ODI’s and T20, the senior players with the exception of Afridi, should be sacked. Pakistan cricket will remain a minnow bashing team only with Younis, Misbah and Malik as the middle order.

  242. #242 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 1, 2009 - 8:30 PM

    Ajmal bowled very tight and unlucky not to get a wicket, the umpiring was below par today.
    Afridi got injured and may be he will not play the final ODI, it means Fawad Alam will be in. Hopefully its just a cramp. But, he should be ready for the T20. Akhtar was “haanping like a Saaand” and he could hardly run while fielding. He was lucky to get the initial two wickets, but as usual he was expensive and so was Tanvir.

    I dunno what happened to Tanvir? He either bowls very wide or short there aren’t any length balls and he gives away plenty of runs.

    Abdul Qadir was so full of praise for Afridi and was concerned about his injury and was hoping that its not a serious one. He said, the way Afridi bowled in the first ODI against Australia that 6 for 38, he has not seen any Pakistani spin bowler, rather any spin bowler in the world bowling so well especially in that particular match. His whole short interview was focused on Afridi and he wants to work with him to improve his bowling.

    Anyways, it was a pathetic performance from Pakistan and Australia has won the series now the last ODI is only for namesake and if Pakistan wins that will be some face saving to say we lost 3-2 and not 4-1.

    But, I have a strong feeling that Pakistan will win the T20 against Australia….. i.e., if Afridi plays and he is fully fit.

  243. #243 by khansahab on May 1, 2009 - 10:15 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Fawad Alam is the only player in the 15 man squad (now reduced to 14 after Jamshed’s departure) who has not got a match yet, and what a pity his chances only appear bright after a senior player has become injured.

    So basically Fawad is the ONLY player who was in the squad to take place of some senior, if the senior is injured or rested. Younis had plans for everyone else who got a match- Tanvir, Arafat, Shahzad etc. That is because, Younis had already decided that Misbah and Malik will not be dropped regardless of bad their performance is.

    How insulting this kind of treatment is? And how does that kind of treatment undermine the confidence of a young player who has been treated like trash for over 3 years?

    That should tell everyone about the resilience and mental toughness of this player- for all those who think he does not deserve a chance. He is being ignored for 3 years, yet in every domestic tournament he outperforms the senior players of the Pakistan team. To me, that is the biggest indication of potential. Players come and go, Shahid Yousuf was touted as the next Inzamam and he fell into oblivion. Hasan Raza was the best batsman in domestic circuit but he lost his class. Fawad Alam has been performing for the past 3 years, and in amazing fashion.

  244. #244 by khansahab on May 1, 2009 - 10:30 PM

    ANALYSIS: Karachi: the final frontier?

    Rafia Zakaria

    As the temperature of the Taliban insurgency rises, all eyes are focused on Karachi as the final venue of the face-off between the Tehreek-e Taliban Pakistan and its opponents. In the political developments of the past few weeks, the Muttahida Qaumi Movement has emerged as the sole political adversary to the TTP’s project of forcing the nation to accede to its demands.

    The recent bout of violence that until Friday had killed 34 people and left over 50 injured saw clashes between MQM and ANP supporters. Violence erupted on Wednesday, April 29, 2008 when an unidentified gunman opened fire in a Muhajir locality. Police and Rangers were unable to stop the ensuing mayhem despite door-to door operations in Pashtun areas.

    In a dénouement with which Karachiites are sadly familiar, all educational institutions were ordered closed on Thursday and shoot-at-sight orders issued against rioters. The two-day violence also saw arson and extensive damage to property before some semblance of control could be brought to the city.

    The eruption of ethnically motivated violence in Karachi has been forecast for some time by both political leaders and strategic analysts. MQM leader Altaf Hussain has been rallying Karachiites to mobilise against the Talibanisation of the city for over a year. Last week’s burning of Catholic churches and targeting of the Christian community in Tiasar Town was a precursor to the current tension in the city.

    Analysts have correctly emphasised the value of destabilising Karachi for the TTP in its ultimate project of expelling foreign troops from Afghanistan. As one report put it, NATO supply lines rely crucially on the Karachi port. Put simply, destabilising the port operations in Karachi is an easy recipe for disabling the American-led NATO effort in Afghanistan.

    Tactically, therefore, the importance of Karachi cannot be underestimated: a mega city of nearly 18 million people, Pakistan’s financial and commercial hub and the centre of NATO’s supply efforts to Afghanistan deserves attention from anyone interested in pursuing stability in the region. Analysis of the city’s structural and demographic characteristics reveals why such attention is merited.

    First, the demographic changes that have occurred in the city in recent years following the beginning of operations in the tribal areas have changed the ethnic composition of the city and led to an influx of Pashtun into Karachi. While not decisive in terms of electoral support, this change bodes new problems for maintaining law and order within and around the city.

    According to reports from officials in the NWFP, nearly 550,000 people have been displaced from the Pashtun tribal areas in the last eight months; out of these, 300,000 are reported to have settled in Karachi. In the absence of refugee camps, most of these people have settled in the homes of relatives and friends in the outlying areas of Karachi that are known to be Pashtun strongholds.

    Divested of home and hearth, uprooted from all that is familiar, and culturally and ethnically distinct from other Karachiites, the influx of these recent refugees provides an available population of recruits to the TTP in its efforts to destabilise Karachi.

    The geographic location of Pashtun settlements, such as Sohrab Goth, Surjani Town and other areas which effectively encircle the city, provides further logistical ease for groups planning terrorist attacks in the city. This spatial concentration of Pashtun at the outskirts and Muhajirs in the central and southern portions of the city also provides an easily exploitable ethnic divide that can yield enormous dividends in carrying out subversive activities.

    Finally, low state penetration in most Pashtun areas adds to their vulnerability as hotbeds of militant activity. Most Pashtun areas being informal settlements see little provision of amenities such as electricity and water and the procurement of these services is routinely accomplished through black marketeering and illegal activity often managed by the underpaid workers of various city agencies.

    The consequence of such activity for the purposes of non-state groups is that they can organise and effectuate their plans, establish safe houses, and have telephone, electricity and internet connections without being detected by any state apparatus.

    Low state penetration in Karachi has also contributed to high levels of gang warfare and connected black market activity in the city. The same factors that allow for such activity to continue also make Karachi an easy target for terrorist activity.

    Even as ethnic riots destabilised one area of the city, gang riots were rocking Lyari as local residents clashed with gangsters from the Rehman Dakait group. The gangsters allegedly had support from the Pakistan People’s Party, which maintains the area as a stronghold, and the clashes took place between various castes of Memons and Baloch who exchanged fire with automatic weapons.

    Ironically these particular clashes were reported to have erupted over the establishment of peace offices in the area. The incident exemplifies the ease with which criminal interests can coalesce with political interests to destabilise a city. In the instant case of Taliban activity, similar alliances among various groups that will be able to pay off criminal elements within the city are likely to be constructed simply adding to the lethality of the ensuing conflict.

    Finally, the ethnic, educational, cultural and political distinctiveness of Karachi presents particular challenges to its residents in positioning themselves in the fast-changing political landscape of the rest of the country.

    The residents of Karachi are entrepreneurial, highly educated and without the feudal connections and conservatism that typify other parts of Pakistan. This makes them most likely to suffer in the event of a pro-Islamist Taliban regime that forces women indoors, shuts down businesses arbitrarily deemed un-Islamic and extracts taxes from minorities.

    While these factors could effectively mobilise Karachi’s eighteen million residents against the threat of the Taliban, the degeneration of this struggle into ethnic war risks providing the Taliban with a decisive victory regardless of whether they can actually win the war over Karachi.

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