LASITH DA MALINGA

Lasith Da Malinga

Lasith Da Malinga

Murali Chuckinga

Murali Chuckinga

“Ali da Malinga” is one of the famous songs of Late Nusrat Ali Khan and  “Lasith Malinga” is the second most controversial bowler after Muralitharan both are from Sri Lanka. While Murali spins the balls and the batsmen with his doosra, Malinga makes the batsman shuffle and dance when he swings his so-called “questionable yorkers” especially when he slings his yorkers at the batsmen at 150 kmph not only they jump but, the spectators sitting on the sides also jump and raise their eyebrows to know whether it is a legal delivery? Or, is it someone trying to throw flat stones at a still pond and that bounces and creates ripples in the pond. And in case of Murali whether he is bowling or throwing a javelin?

As children most of us must have experienced throwing flat stones in the water to compete as to who could make more bounces on the surface of the water and who could create more ripples? The flatter the stone, the lower your arm action, the higher the speed, the more ripples you can create. For a few math students on our blog here is a question: “If a stone is thrown into a lake creating a circular ripple that travels outward at a speed of 50 cm per second. What is the rate at which the area within the circle is increasing after 2 seconds?” I am posing this question to our maths whiz kids on the blog like Omer Admani and Theossa. And, I am sure Omer would come up with a theory of hyper-arm-extension which Michael Holding once showed videos by comparing Shoaib Akhtar and RP Singh’s arms.

Coming back to the math question, one may come up with an answer that, the radius increases at one hundred pi r square centimetres per second. Where Area = pi x r^2.   May be, that is the answer. But this is not cricket. Fortunately for Murali & Malinga and for the ICC, it is not maths but, a favour. The bowling action of both these players will always be questionable and people would be asking this question whether it is legitimate bowling?

The irony is some people compare Malinga with Thompson. One can watch their videos and compare them side by side and see that Thompson’s  action was about 20 degrees off vertical whereas; Malinga’s is about 15 degrees off horizontal. So, there is a big difference in the degrees and also in their bowling actions. Therefore, whoever is trying to compare them and conclusively saying they are similar have no idea of what they are talking about.

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Besides, comparing the round arm action with low arm slinging action is also like comparing apples with oranges. If low arm slinging action is acceptable then make life more simple: Start bowling under arm. If you are among a group of Sri Lankan supporters and discussing about Murali or Malinga’s bowling action, it is like throwing a stone in a bee-hive or, inviting a bull with a red flag to charge at  you. I believe that instead of avoiding, it is better to take the bull by its horns.

I reckon Murali had to go through the bio-mechanics lab in Southern Australia at least three times. The question is, why three times? Wasn’t the first test conclusive? To me it is not simple, it seems more than what meets the eye. The Australian Prime Minister called Murali a Chucker and that created a big hue and cry and the PM was told that it is politically incorrect, hence they have to compensate it by correcting the words of their Prime Minister by taking Murali into their bio-mechanics lab in their own university and approving the action. That did not suffice the roar of the critics and that lead to another controversy and it was challenged and he had to go through those tests two more times. But, Bhishen Singh Bedi said it in two simple words. He said, “Murali Cheats.”

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And, Bedi went on to explain what he means by that, he said: “The reason I think he cheats is because I have seen him bowl perfect leg breaks. But when it comes to his other deliveries, he bends his arm,” he added.

Bedi also hit out at the ICC for using bio-mechanical tests to detect chuckers and said it should go by the assessment of the on-field umpire, who actually watches the bowler. That is true, no umpire uses a slow motion camera on every ball to judge whether it is within the approved parameters or not. “Cricketers don’t play in labs. They play on grounds and chucking is something that can be detected with a naked eye. You don’t need to go to Australia for those fancy tests to decide whether a bowler chucks,” he said. The former spinner said; Muralitharan may go down as the highest wicket-taker in Test history but he can never be put in the same bracket as Australian Shane Warne. “Warne is a genius. His action is just beautiful and he cannot be compared with Muralitharan. He is a league apart. Murali will complete 1000 Test wickets but they would count as mere runouts in my eyes,” he said.

Someone while agreeing with Bedi said, “just because people have a deformity, they should not be allowed to hurl javelins instead of cricket balls.” It is true that Murali is by no means a ‘clean’ spinner, he is just using his wrist and never rolls his arm over. Reportedly the ICC cleared him because of too much politics and money that plays a part in that region.

And Bedi has always said that Shane Warne is the greatest spinner to have graced the game, there is definitely a serious flaw in Murali’s action and when he hurls a ball you instantly know he is chucking ‘this is not cricket’. Someone said, “claiming that a thief did not steal because the police changed the definition of stealing?” This is very apt for the ICC bending and changing rules the rules to accommodate a few and to ridicule a few.

The point is when tested in labs, it is possible that bowlers may have altered their actions for the duration of a test when they know they are being watched very closely. The trick is to catch them in the act. If Murali’s arm straightened 15 degrees in such artificial conditions, it is also possible that it could be straightened by twice or even more in actual bowling. Is it not possible?

Perhaps, Bhishen Singh Bedi is right, the ICC’s greed and willingness to shred the laws on chucking are what have created this situation and leading to more controversial bowlers like Malinga, Akhtar, Shabbir, Harbhajan’s doosra, Shuan Tait’s jerk in his wrist.

Another aspect of seeing this is, if these bowlers have deformity and they are using it to one’s advantage; then they must play in a different league just like there is Olympics for physically challenged people, they must be playing for teams where they are all physically challenged and all alike.and the ICC must organize another tournament for them, then there will be no controversy.

Murali with his “golden” arm may take 1000 wickets in test and ODI both. But, people will have more respect for Shane Warne, Anil Kumble, Saqlain Mushtaq and those who bowled with a clean action. So the question is: Do we want more youngster’s churning their arms like Murali? I guess not.

And most people will agree that chuckers need to play in a different league. So, lets begin this debate and see who succeeds in proving that they are chuckers or not by using math, logic, science and art to defend their opinions. But, don’t forget the on-field umpire doesn’t use slow motion cameras to take a decision.

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  1. #1 by khansahab on June 29, 2009 - 11:10 PM

    The first time I saw Malinga bowl, I was stupefied. I couldn’t believe it could be a legitimate action. I am not a mathematician and I don’t measure angles. I don’t even make laws about cricket. But like the author of the thread, I am a cricket enthusiast and I have been following the game for a long time.

    Even if Thompson’s action is similar to Malinga’s, the former bowled at a time when there was hardly any surveillance of bowlers’ actions and bowlers could get away with anything. What I don’t understand is that Malinga’s action has never actually been reported as questionable. We keep hearing that it is “doubtful” from people including commentators but it seems no one has the guts to report him. Or maybe they feel that way because his action is said to be similar to Thompson’s.

    I was thinking a few days ago about there should be a different type of cricket for these deformed players with hyperextension, and Javed A Khan, I can see, is on the same wavelength and has suggested a competition like the Olympics. I totally agree. Why should people like Gul have to have legitimate, straight arm actions when Murali and Malinga can bend their arms to no end and exercise this unfair advantage?
    Even if this so called hyperextension is legal and a natural deformity, why should someone with this special ability be allowed to compete with the likes of McGrath and Gul who had straight arm actions? It makes no sense.

    It is like, letting one batsman bat with a stronger and more durable willow and another batsman bat with a weaker, poorer quality willow.

    Innovation is good and we are not saying there should not be variety. Paul Adams, the famous chinaman bowler, had a unique action but it was reasonable. Similarly, bowlers like Ajmal or Harbhajan bend their arms bowling their doosras, but again, they do it within reasonable bounds.

    I have tried to spin the ball, just jerking my arm without even twisting my fingers, and it can produce considerable spin. In my view the substantial jerk of Murali’s arm assists the ball to spin, along with his fingers. Please recall if you have ever seen an offspinner spin the ball so much (Murali spins it about 3 times as much as Ajmal). Offspinners are not meant to spin the ball like that. Legspinners are, because legspin is produced by the jerk of the wrist, and fingers play second fiddle. Meanwhile offspin is produced by twisting your fingers. I think it is simple to see using this analogy, how a jerk by your body can cause the ball to spin or “change course”, and my view is that Murali uses that to assist his profuse spin.

    It is a shame that Murali and Malinga are playing international cricket and taking wickets like hot cakes. I agree with Javed A Khan that people will certainly have more respect for people like Warne and Saqlain. Asian teams and cricketers have been victims of politics but at the same time they have benefited from politics too. Hair no-balled Murali for chucking and then these lab tests were conducted and Hair got a lot of bad press which classed him as a racist umpire. After that no one dared report Murali and Malinga has also benefited from this.

  2. #2 by khansahab on June 29, 2009 - 11:33 PM

    More pics on how to “throw” the ball:

  3. #3 by M. Y. Kasim. on June 30, 2009 - 12:56 AM

    I have seen Jeff Thomson bowl live (ofcourse on TV coverage) but it was not the way like what Malinga is “bowling.”

    I remember one Pakistani bowler by the name of Atiq-uz-Zaman or Atiq-ur-Rahman, who toured Australia but was sent back who also had the same action and was express fast.
    I cant recall the reason why he was sent back, may be Khansahab could find out.

    There had been several bowlers who had this chest-on action and were comparatively faster than regular fast bowlers. It must have some advantage, I guess.

  4. #4 by M. Y. Kasim. on June 30, 2009 - 1:00 AM

    What I mean is chest-on action, not slinging action like Malinga. It certainly is not cricket according to any specification. Period.

  5. #5 by Varun Suri on June 30, 2009 - 9:23 AM

    Hi Guys,

    Though it might be the wrong thread to post this but here’s and interesting tribute to Pakistan winning the T-20 World Cup:-

    http://greatbong.net/2009/06/23/pak-a-punch-once-again/

    I specially liked the following lines on Afridi which made me share this with all of you!

    “Afridi is an old favorite of mine simply because he is the last representative of the archetypal Pakistani cricketer—supremely talented and totally in-your-face “I rule and you suck, you puny Indian”, the kind you loved to hate. Like Imran Khan who when he got hit for a four would stand and look at the batsman with an arrogant smirk on his face as if to say “I bet your wife makes love to you at night thinking it is me”. Like Javed Miandad who made every performance personal and derived so much unalloyed joy from rubbing India’s face in the ground that for many years he was a greater threat to the nation’s sanity than his samdhiji. Like Saeed Anwar, Ijaz the Kasai, Slimy Malik and Awesome Akram. This is a breed that has died out over the years with the Pakistani team consisting of nice guys like amiable Paddington bear Inzamam and smilingly benign Younis Khan (a true gentleman), non-entities like Shoaib Malik who get caught in an Indian marriage con and the “is he Yousuf Yohanna or is he Mohammed Yousuf or does he play for ICL or does he play for IPL” dude who is so lame that he allows himself to be pyschologically intimidated by,of all people, Anil Kumble!!!

  6. #6 by Varun Suri on June 30, 2009 - 9:48 AM

    Javed,

    This is a very well written article where you have quoted statements from several sources on this controversial topic.

    You have raised an very important question by giving the ripples in the water example:-

    “The flatter the stone, the lower your arm action, the higher the speed, the more ripples you can create.”

    But here i do not get one thing, How does creating more ripples compare with the ball hitting the rock solid pitch because when you sling a stone in the water it bounces of the water which creates the ripples which travel outwardly in a circular fashion but when you sling the ball on a hard pitch then only thing is it might skid a bit more and at a higher speed than done with a normal bowling action.

    So for sure bowling like Malinga does must have helped him to increase his pace from what he must be generating through a normal bowling action.

    Murali’s issue is quite complicated, i have never really done any kind of research to ascertain whether he is genuine or not.Whatever the case maybe it is too late for anyone to do anything now as he is already at the fag end of his Career and been tested and approved so many times that nobody can erase any of his records from the record books.

  7. #7 by khansahab on June 30, 2009 - 10:06 AM

    http://www.cricinfo.com/slvpak2009/engine/current/match/403365.html

    SL declared on 345/5- the only bowler who made an impact was Abdur Rauf. Pakistan are on 207/2. Both Butt and Manzoor have played very responsibly and Butt in fact played swiftly before he was dismissed on 82. Younis played an attacking knock of 37 before he was caught out. Yousuf has just come to the crease and he is batting with Manzoor who is unbeaten on 81.

    After Manzoor’s good knock, it is now questionable whether Malik will play as opener or not.

  8. #8 by khansahab on June 30, 2009 - 10:33 AM

    Michael Vaughan has retired from international cricket.

    Vaughan built on the successes of Nasser Hussain and Duncan Fletcher to become the most successful England captain of all time. He was a great pressure handler, a great motivator and a peerless strategist.

    Thanks for the memories, Michael.

  9. #9 by khansahab on June 30, 2009 - 10:38 AM

    After Younis’s departure everyone tried to slog and got out. I think Younis has asked everyone to practise slogging so that when the whole team is dismissed, the bowlers can get another chance to get into rhythm.

    Fawad Alam and Faisal Iqbal are now batting. Yousuf, Misbah fell cheaply. Pakistan are 239/5.

  10. #10 by Mohammed Munir on June 30, 2009 - 10:56 AM

    Khansahab …

    I guess Fawad ‘your favourite’ Alam and Faisal Iqbal have a good chance to show their batting skills, that is if they have any 😆

  11. #11 by khansahab on June 30, 2009 - 11:00 AM

    Munir sahab

    By this time he should also have been your favourite Alam….

    🙂

  12. #12 by Mohammed Munir on June 30, 2009 - 11:26 AM

    Guess what, he is 😉

    I wish him all the luck in this series.

    I know Fawad Alam is for sure better then Malik, Razzaq and Faisal, and the only thing is that he is being kept out on purpose and due to petty politics.

  13. #13 by Mohammed Munir on June 30, 2009 - 11:36 AM

    Varun Suri @ Comment no. 5 …

    Thank you very much, this article was definitely a treat to read and yes we are really are missing those strong characters in our team today.

    All we are left with are ‘Lissay’, ‘Thunday’, and ‘Maathay’ or the Sissy characters like Inzimam, Younis (big time), Malik, Razzaq, Yousuf, and etc. who never get upset and are too timid and docile to show their true emotions, which used to be a trait of our Pakistani team.

    Not only that Pakistan no more have many such strong guys, but on the other hand, India itself have developed guys like Gambhir, Yovraj, Sreeshanth, Irfan, Zaheer etc. who can bully you.

  14. #14 by khansahab on June 30, 2009 - 12:00 PM

    Pakistan are on 301/5 with one day remaining in the match. Pakistan are trailing by 44 runs.

    So far the Sri Lankan spinners have been more effective than Pakistan’s, which is somewhat worrying, although this is only a practice match.

    Yousuf and Misbah both fell cheaply which is also worrying. They might have decided to take their chances to give more exposure to Fawad and Faisal Iqbal. At stumps Fawad was unbeaten on 40 from 60 balls. He played very sensibly as usual at a good strike rate. Faisal is unbeaten on 21 from 62 balls.

    Fawad’s knock will only be of limited impact as it is certain he cannot replace Misbah or Yousuf.

  15. #15 by khansahab on June 30, 2009 - 12:31 PM

    IK Pathan going down the route of Shahrukh Khan?

    Irfan to marry long-time friend Shivangi, a CA in Australia

    Indian pace star Irfan Pathan has decided to tie the nuptial knot with his long-time friend Shivangi Dev, a chartered accountant working in Australia.

    Irfan, 24, met Shivangi, 22, in Canberra in 2003 when the Indian team was touring Australia and proposed to her when she was on a visit here three years back.

    Shivangi, daughter of a diplomat now posted in Spain, promptly said “yes” when Irfan asked whether she would marry him, Irfan’s father Mehbubkhan Pathan told PTI.

    “Miya bibi razi to kya karega Kazi” (if the boy and the girl are ready to tie the knot, what can anyone do), he said quickly adding the family has no objection to the marriage.

    But Irfan will have to wait for some time as the family is looking for a suitable for his elder brother and teammate Yusuf Pathan, says his father.

    “We are in search for a good girl for Yusuf and after his marriage, Irfan’s turn will come,” he said.

    Irfan’s mother Shamim Banoo is impressed with the simplicity and good nature of Shivangi, who also runs a dancing school in Canberra.

    A sprawling bungalow is being readied for Irfan in the posh Tandaja locality on the outskirts of the city, close to where the family is staying in a duplex house. The new house will have a ‘cricket room’.

  16. #16 by Theossa on June 30, 2009 - 12:48 PM

    Javed

    Since I requested Awas to come with a thread your writing and creativity skills shone nicely. Well written article and interesting questions raised there. I don’t really know much about chucking laws but some bowlers do look suspicious like Murali, Akhtar, and Malinga. However Malinga looks ok in slow motion. He has an awkward side winder action but it’s hard to tell if he bends his forearms to generate extra pace. Murali, however, looks a chucker even in slow motion which he is, but with the excuse of hyperextension. You are right that allowing some bowlers with deformity to play is injustice with the ones who follow the normal course. I would say this just because a bowler’s action is “unique” does not mean it’s legal also

    I usually charge for any mathematical problems but since I know you, I won’t send you a bill but here is the solution to your mathematical riddle. If the circular ripple expands at 50 cm per second then its diameter increases D + 50 cm + 50 cm every second (i.e. 50 cm increase in every direction of the circle). You add the value of this diameter i.e. D + 100 cm into Area of circle equation i.e. Area = (pi * D + 100 cm^2)/4, you’ll get the expanded area of circular ripple after one second. Deduct the original area from the new area of circular ripple and multiply it by 2 (i.e. after 2 second) and you’ll have your rate of area increase after 2 seconds.

    I’m busy with work but I’ll write during my breaks.

  17. #17 by khansahab on June 30, 2009 - 12:49 PM

    We have previously spoken about how whatever we say on LS seems to be heard or read across the world and comes in the news. It has happened with the thread titles we use, ideas we have discussed or the way and context we have used pictures in.

    On 24/05/2009 I made the following comment:

    I don’t know why people are getting so ignorant and why T20 is being so popular. I am not against T20’s popularity, but the fact that it is replacing ODI and Test cricket.

    The ICC should also take measures to make Test cricket more popular. By this, I don’t mean having rules that if a batsman faces 2 short pitch deliveries in one over, the bowler gets suspended or rubbish like that, but maybe the ICC can make Tests a 4 day game. Maybe introduce coloured kits for Tests and have evening or night matches.

    Today this came in the news:

    The future of cricket

    David Morgan, the ICC president, has hinted that Test cricket may be reduced to four days to protect and enrich the game’s oldest format in the face of lucrative Twenty20 leagues like the IPL. The suggestion comes in the wake of a few other changes that are being mooted, including a two-tier format and day-night Tests to attract more crowds.

    Boy, are we good or are we good? 🙂

  18. #18 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 30, 2009 - 1:39 PM

    khansahab

    On the day when the news about Abdul Razzaq’s spinach eating habits came to public, we gave him the name of “Popeye The Sailor Man” and now everyone uses it. The last time i.e., a few weeks ago when I talked about his “Olive” it was Awas who asked me what is Olive? Rather who is Olive? And, I had to explain to him that it is his significant other. And, these are just a couple of examples but, do you not remember the captain “From Lahore to Lords” was used by a leading UK newspaper’s heading 2 days after our thread was up.

    Varun

    Thanks for sharing that article, its nicely written. “Red” wanted to give credit to the “Boyz” and he did. The punch line for Afridi that he used was good, it wasn’t like Chakkay Pay Chakka, but Nehlay Pay Dehla.

    Munir

    You may call Sissy Malik but you cannot call Inzamam a sissy by any means. That man may be fat as an aloo but, he is cool as a cucumber and serious like a majestic tiger i.e., when he focus on the game there is nothing on his mind except to make more runs. That is another problem that he used to get run out and later discovered funny ways to get out and Misbah ul Haq is emulating him in everything without a beard but, he is no where near him.

    Theo

    It is not that you challenged me and I picked up the gauntlet and writing better than before. Mood aur tame tame ki baat hai. When I have more time at my disposal I read it again i.e., to see what I wrote? Actually that is a must for everyone especially if you are doing threads. Besides, you must have heard that proverbial expression of “Matlab ki baat kerta hai diwana.” You are doing the same thing, earlier you ignored my other points and picked up only those which you didn’t like. Secondly, you were defending YK only for the sake of keeping your word and that is so typical of a Pathan (Fataan ka zubaan ek) to do that. Anyways, lets not get into that discussion again. READ that article VARUN had posted.

    As regards Malinga’s action you don’t need the laws and you don’t need a slow motion camera. The reason I took the trouble of explaining the action with the help of a flat stone that we throw in the water to create ripple effects is to prove a point: Try throwing the same flat stone in a round arm bowling action and see where and how far it goes?

    Varun

    The question you posed and tried to differentiate the bounce on water vs. hard pitch is what you are seeing happening physically, I am asking to use your imagination. Did you ever throw the flat stone (or, THEEKRA that we call in Urdu) in water using a round arm bowling action? I guess not. Because the intent is to throw far and also to create the ripples. You throw it using round arm bowling action …. PLUMP it will land after 22 yards may be 32? But, you sling it and it goes up to 80 or even 100 yards.

    So, the point is are you bowling or you slinging? Is slinging allowed in cricket? Why sugar coat that sling by saying “slinging action” there is no need to say bowling action. The word bowling in ‘cricket’ means round arm action. Otherwise, call it a BASE BALL throw. Javelin throw, Shot put throw. Jerk or no jerk a sling is not bowling. .

    And, theo I have a PVR and I watched Malinga in slow motion and even in frame by frame and there are two jerks that he gives: 1. when he takes his hand behind his back while running and just before slinging it towards the batsman and then sometimes when he is delivering his faster one, his wrist goes backwards before he releases the ball. Forget about the minute details of detecting it with slow motion cameras, SLINGING is not BOWLING. PERIOD

  19. #19 by Theossa on June 30, 2009 - 3:28 PM

    Javed

    I’m not sure about your analogy that side arm action throws faster and farther than round arm action. Yes using a flat stone with a side arm action will create more ripples but it’s because you want the flat side of the stone to bounce off the water which is again related to the law of buoyancy. I personally can throw faster and farther with a round arm action. Also, jerking wrist is not chucking but the bending the forearm is which definitely creates more speed or twist. Shahid afridi for example jerk his wrist when he throws the faster one.

    Oh, I read the Varun’s recommended article, it was nice. However, I do not agree with the author that Shahid Afridi is the only player that can win Pakistan matches out of the blue. There are other players like, Akmal, Gul, Younis, and Yousuf who are as capable of surprising the opposition. In T20s list could be even longer.

  20. #20 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 30, 2009 - 4:54 PM

    Shahid afridi for example jerk his wrist when he throws the faster one. Theo

    Throws? You mean bowls!

    No one can cover longer distance and generate more speed using round arm bowling action as opposed to THROWING………. throwing is easy anyone can throw, bowling is different and bowling means only round arm action. Period. Slinging is throwing.

  21. #21 by Theossa on June 30, 2009 - 5:20 PM

    Javed

    LOL, abbe too kia ICC ka bowling expert hai, jo kehta hai, “Slinging is Throwing, Period!” If you are the self proclaimed expert based of your experience of watching bowling then you’ll need to satisfy some logical person like Omer. I can’t wait to see how you answer some very good questions raised by him. I guess yours and Omer’s arguments will conclude what chucking is and who are the chuckers. I wish we could hear from Baba Awas and real time cricket expert Aamir Iqbal a.ka. Abdul as well.

  22. #22 by Theossa on June 30, 2009 - 6:49 PM

    @ Javed

    “Theo I don’t use logic. I am a very practical and pragmatic person. I say things in simple language and I don’t use and chew the words”

    LOL, 900 choohe kha ker billi huj ko chali. I think I and Awas made you chew your words about Younis but that’s another story 😀

    Good counter argument though, waiting for Omer to reply. Since I don’t have much knowledge or care for slinging or chucking so I’ll remain an observer until and unless Younis Khan protests against the said bowlers 🙂

  23. #23 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 30, 2009 - 7:11 PM

    Theo

    Go and read my comments about Younus Khan, I wrote that if Younus Khan wins the cup – which I wanted him to win – I will be very happy. I won’t be here if I want Pakistan to lose when they play. I may say out of frustration that the way they are playing they will lose against minnows, and we all say that. But, I did not chew my words. I did salute him for winning the cup because I said, I will do that if he wins.

    And, I have also said that winning the cup does not mean Younus is a good captain or, Younus is fit for T20. My views are still the same. Secondly, I also wrote that Younus Khan has made the life of the next captain extremely difficult, because even if the new captain wins the next T20 WC he will only equal the record of Younus Khan, to beat his record he has to win twice and that is not impossible but extremely difficult.

  24. #24 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 30, 2009 - 7:13 PM

    Why do you consider them as funny? You are the one who brought ISLAM in this discussion and I asked you to define God using logic or science, can you?

    Do you need Islam to say what is gheebat (gossip) ? And, is it OK if you do that for Malik and Akmal and not the same if khansahab or I say the same thing for Murali and Malinga? How come what you say is criticism and what I say is accusation? 😀 I find it amusing now.

  25. #25 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 30, 2009 - 7:16 PM

    If someone says Umar Gul chucks, I won’t tell him to go to the optometrist or the ophthalmologist, I will say GO TO HELL 😀

  26. #26 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 30, 2009 - 7:25 PM

    And, btw I didn’t ask you to compare Murali’s action by asking you to define God. You are once again playing with words, I said, “People cannot define God using science and logic, can you?” That was because you are using logic and science in your argument and you want proof, evidence to substantiate and back up my arguments with logic and science.

    It is right there in black and white you can read it again. Just scroll up and read.

  27. #27 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 30, 2009 - 7:28 PM

    LOL, I forgot that you don’t read, you skim. 😀

  28. #28 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 30, 2009 - 7:34 PM

    OK guys, its time to go now, I have a wedding reception to attend in about a few hours, so I need to get dressed to nine. Take care, have fun. Tomorrow is a national holiday here, Canada Day, followed by the July 4 long week-end.

  29. #29 by khansahab on June 30, 2009 - 9:05 PM

    Omer

    You try and base your arguments on “logic”. Logic is like, “virtue”, which means different thing to different people.

    It seems that 3 people who have deformed elbows; Akhtar, Murali and Malinga have rather “unusual actions” and unusually high bowling strike rates. That itself suggests that they exercise an unfair advantage over bowlers with normal elbows.

    That is the gist of my argument. I really don’t have the time to explain what logical fallacies or inconsistencies I find in your analysis.

    And by the way, to me, accusing Shoaib Malik of having a “senator uncle” without any evidence is more slanderous than saying Malinga and Murali’s action is doubtful. This is a cricket blog and we are discussing cricket here. We are not trying to insult or defame someone. I don’t think anyone of us said that Murali or Malinga’s action is “illegal”. We are just saying that the actions are doubtful and unfair.

    There is a difference between law and morality. What is legal is not always moral, and vice versa. I don’t like the fact that Murali can jerk his arm to such a degree that is produces spin (I have tried emulating his action and it produces loads of spin). If his action is legal, then for me, that is a loophole in the law.

    Waqar’s slingshot action was very different to Malinga’s. I don’t know if you ever saw Waqar bowling? If you did then you would see the arm position was very different.

    See how he has “prepared” to keep his arm relatively straight as he is about to release the ball. The difference seems that Waqar is keeping his arm relatively vertical whereas Malinga is keeping it relatively horizontal. Malinga looks like he is just about to throw a pebble into a pond……..

  30. #30 by khansahab on June 30, 2009 - 9:34 PM

    Selection dilemma for Pak ahead of 1st Lanka Test

    Karachi, June 30: The return of former Indian Cricket League players Mohammad Yousuf and Abdul Razzaq to the national fold has created a problem of plenty for Pakistan, which now faces a selection dilemma on the eve of the first Test against Sri Lanka in Galle.

    “With Yousuf and Razzaq back, the tour selectors are not sure what to do because if both Yousuf and Razzaq are selected then the axe will fall on former captain Shoaib Malik,” one source said.

    He said there was only one way Malik could retain his place and that was if the tour selection committee decides to persist with wicket-keeper Kamran Akmal as a make-shift opener in the Test series as well or if Malik was chosen to open.

    “But (skipper) Younis himself is not very keen to go into the first Test with a make shift opening pair and he wants specialist openers Salman Butt and Khurram Manzoor in the side,” the source said.

    He said Yousuf, a veteran of 79 Tests, is certain to make a comeback.

    “If Yousuf and Razzaq play then it would be difficult to accommodate Malik while the tour selectors also can’t ignore the continuing good performances of Fawad Alam,” he said.
    “There is a consensus to pick Razzaq at number six to have a fifth bowler which would put Malik out of contention because the batting line up would include five specialist batsmen in Butt, Manzoor, Younis, Yousuf and Misbah-ul-Haq.”

  31. #31 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 30, 2009 - 11:08 PM

    khansahab

    The selection dilemma would have become even more complicated had the hero of the T20 WC joined the squad, he opted out very wisely. With his bowling form and outstanding batting performance they couldn’t have ignored him over Kaneria.

    LOL @ dushman, dushman by playing like a real hero he has sent this message to his foes:

    Mayray charagar ko naveed ho,
    saf-e-dushmana ko khabar karo.
    vo jo qarz rakhtay thay jaan par,
    vo hisab aaj chuka dia

    even they are playing the BOOM BOOM music in their own backyard, what is that phrase? If you can’t beat them join them! 😀

  32. #32 by Mohammed Munir on July 1, 2009 - 6:03 AM

    More Dilemmas for Pakistani Selectors …

    Fawad Alam has played fantastically and scored a brilliant 83 n.o, which is the highest score form the Pakistan side, specially considering that Fawad came in to bat at no. 7 when Pakistan were 238 for 5 down, he showed very good maturity and played a great innings playing only with tail-enders.

    Seeing this marvelous performance by Fawad, I am sure he must play in the first test and now it is upto the Selectors/ Captain to shuffle their team whichever way they want, but they essentially include Fawad in the playing eleven.

    I think, and I may be wrong here, but there was no need for Younis Khan to declare the innings at 400 for 8, while Fawad was playing well at 83 n.o. By declaring now, Younis Khan have deliberately deprived this young lad of his well deserved century. There may be a few who will argue that it was ok to declare as it will give a chance to our bowlers to bowl to the Sri Lankan team and get some match practice. But, today is the third and final day of this match and we are only in the early morning session, so even if Younis would have allowed Pakistan to carry on to bat for a few more overs and given Fawad Alam a deserving chance to complete his century, the team would still have been left with enough overs and time to practice our bowlers for remaining 2 to 1.5 sessions (40 to 50 overs) of play.

    This is not fair on part of Younis Khan, and he did to Fawad what Imran Khan did to Javed Miandad at 280 against India. At least that was a Test match and in the end we won it, but this was just a 3 day game and there will be no result no matter what.

  33. #33 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 1, 2009 - 6:13 AM

    Munir

    “I am agree”
    Younus Khan should not have declared, what bowling practice? The bowlers bowled in the first innings and the batsmen should have got their chance for some batting practice. A century would have boosted the morale of young Fawad Alam. And, you are right he did what Imran did to JM. And JM will never forget that it was a chance for him to score a triple century.

    Its too late, I need some sleep, just came home after a party. Take care!

  34. #34 by Mohammed Munir on July 1, 2009 - 6:24 AM

    Javed Khan …

    On Inzimam, I agree he was not sissy, but he sure was a ‘slow-death’ kinda person and not someone who will be aggressive and show his emotions more often. He was more like a vegetable (Aloo & Kheera), and a ‘sleeping tiger’, rather then one who is alert and on a hunting mission.

    What made be include Inzimam in that list was his attitude with the ‘boys’ and also in that famous Darrel Hair case. Just imagine if it was Majid Khan, Ijaz Ahmed, Imran Khan, Sarfraz Nawaz, Waqar Younis or many other aggressive Pakistani players of that era, they would not have pardoned that Hairless Darrell Hair, after they had him by his balls. Inzimam was too gentle and he forgave him after he had his leg at Hair’s neck.

    I know Inzimam had good clout and an influential position with the PCB, but it was more due to his own good performances and not because of his aggressiveness. Even with the team players, Inzimam was using the ‘silent treatment’ most of the time rather then being assertive.

  35. #35 by Mohammed Munir on July 1, 2009 - 6:25 AM

    Javed …

    Aaj Subah Subah ? Kiya Baat Hai ?

    Neend Nahin Aarahi, Kal Raat Ki Shaadi Ki Dawat Kay Baad ? 😉

  36. #36 by khansahab on July 1, 2009 - 8:34 AM

    Munir sahab

    I agree it is unfair that Younis declared without giving a chance to Alam to score his century. But Younis is the type of guy who will put the team before individual performances. What Imran Khan did to Miandad was politics, simply because there was enough time remaining for Pakistan to win, but in this case there was a problem with time and also that Pakistani bowlers need practice as they have struggled.

    Fawad’s knock is brilliant because he came at a time when it looked like Pakistan would be dismissed for less than the Sri Lankan team’s score.

    This may sound strange but yesterday I went on a different blog and there 2 or 3 people were saying, “Trust me if Fawad scores 70 or more, Pakistan will declare because letting him complete a century will be like giving him an automatic chance to play in the first Test”. At that time I thought it was far fetched, but now it may be true.

  37. #37 by khansahab on July 1, 2009 - 8:50 AM

    Now, Sarfaraz bays for PCB boss Butt and his cronies’ blood

    Islamabad, July 1 (ANI): The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairperson Ijaz Butt is under attack from all spheres.

    After the sports minister Pir Aftab Jilani held the PCB’s top brass responsible for losing the hosting rights of 2011 World Cup, former Test cricketer Sarfaraz Nawaz has now criticized Butt and his close aides for the persistent mismanagement in the board.

    Nawaz said Butt and his associates were trying to cash on Pakistan’s World T20 win for their own benefit.

    “Ijaz Butt and his cronies are trying to misuse the Twenty20 World Cup victory to save their seats. There is no role of Ijaz and his management in the victory of the national team but they are trying to take credit,” The Daily Times quoted Nawaz, as saying.

    Nawaz also lashed out at coach Intikhab Alam and manager Yawar Saeed, and said both of them are involved in ‘dirty politics’ in the team.

    He claimed that captain Younis Khan has problems with the coach and asked for a change.

    “As far as I know, Younis has asked for a change of coach and his demand should be accepted now especially when he has proved his leadership abilities by gifting the nation the World Cup,” he said.

    Nawaz was particularly furious over the PCB’s failure to save 2011 World Cup matches from being shifted out from Pakistan.

    The PCB could not save the World Cup 2011 matches and presently it has no support in international cricket community. Even countries like Bangladesh and India, which were our allies in the past, have deceived us. What else the present management wants to give to Pakistan cricket,” he said.

    Nawaz urged the government to replace the PCB’s top management with ‘young and energetic’ professionals.

  38. #38 by khansahab on July 1, 2009 - 9:02 AM

    Omer

    I don’t know who is the better choice between Razzaq and Malik. Malik guarantees a knock of 40 on this kind of pitch, whereas Razzaq guarantees nothing. On the other hand Razzaq’s bowling is better although on this pitch he will find it very difficult to seam and swing.

    It seems to me the best thing to do is to drop both Malik and Razzaq. I wonder if Younis will be willing to play Razzaq and Fawad Alam both, but drop Faisal? What concerns me is that Malik, despite being fully fit, has been left out with Gul, for this warm up. Gul is the premier bowler for this tour so there is no doubt he is playing. I wonder if Younis also wanted to guarantee Malik a place, which is why he left him out?

  39. #39 by Mohammed Munir on July 1, 2009 - 9:17 AM

    Khansahab …

    I agree with you that Younis Khan is not the political type and he is surely not a ‘party-baaz’, but playing a few overs more (say 5 or so) and having sent in a word to Fawad that this is your last chance, would have been a nice gesture on a leader’s part. Specially, since Fawad is struggling to make his presence felt in the team and with the arrival of Ex-ICL guys, it will be even harder for him to get it.

    Sri Lanka are playing their second innings now and I guess they are in over number 37, plus there are some rain interruptions also, so what real difference it would have made if our bowlers were bowling for 30 overs instead of 37 ?

    Anyways, I know it is not the end of the world and may be Fawad could have even got out before reaching this century, but what hurts is that this guy (Fawad) is really good and he is being treated like a ‘Sautela’. Secondly, Younis Khan, as you have mentioned, is partly from Karachi and he also acknowledged that Rashid Latif advised him to play Fawad more, so then what was the reason for this ?

    It’s like, “Jo Dard Milla, Apnoun Say Milla, Ghairoun Say Shikayat Koun Karay” 😉

  40. #40 by khansahab on July 1, 2009 - 10:27 AM

    Munir sahab

    They are all Pakistanis and it shouldn’t matter who is from where. I don’t expect Younis to favour Fawad because he is from Karachi. It is very obvious Malik used to favour players from Punjab- to the extent that even reputable newspapers mentioned it. If Younis starts favouring Fawad then there will be no difference between him and Malik.

    But you are right that, he should not have an agenda against Fawad. Having said that don’t you think if he is from Karachi and if that ought to work in Fawad’s favour, then the people against Fawad are Yawar Saeed and Inti Alam, and not Younis Khan?

    The biggest problem is nepotism, even bigger than regionalism. Faisal Iqbal is the least deserving player in the squad. It doesn’t take a genius to realise why he is in the squad- because of his uncle. Faisal is not particularly bad like Bazid Khan or Junaid Zia- his problem is that he is not particularly good, either. He is just a mediocre player, in fact he is a bit like Malik.

  41. #41 by khansahab on July 1, 2009 - 10:43 AM

    The match is likely to be called off. What a pity that Alam was unable to score a century and Pakistani bowlers got barely any practice at the same time.

    This match has established a few things for Pakistan, and I hope they will take that into account:

    1) The bowling attack has to be pace-heavy, as spinners have struggled. If Razzaq or Malik must play, then Younis should only play 1 spinner and play all of Gul, Aamer and Rauf

    2) Fawad Alam should play

    3) Razzaq is unlikely to make an impact with the ball

    4) Malik is not needed in the Test team

    5) Butt and Manzoor form a strong opening pair

  42. #42 by Mohammed Munir on July 1, 2009 - 11:02 AM

    Khansahab …

    I am not implying that Younis should favour Fawad because of his Karachi link or whatever, no way, absolutely not. But Younis should be fair and square on the issue and let a deserving player have his dues. I don’t think the Team Manager and Coach decides when the innings should be declared and if you believe Younis does not have a say even in such petty decisions, then I am afraid this shows that Younis really is a ‘dummy’.

    BTW, Sri Lankan, it seems, are more cleaver then Younis as they have again declared their second innings at 137, as it seems they either do not want the Pakistani blowers to have enough practice or may be they want their own bowlers to practice enough 😉

  43. #43 by Theossa on July 1, 2009 - 12:32 PM

    Munir & Khansahab

    On this dead pitch and in a warm up match Fawad Alam’s century would have less significance. Even a tail ender like Abdur Rauf stayed not out on 39 on just 31 balls with four 4s and three 6s. A batsman worth is in real match not in a warm up game. If it was Shoaib Malik playing then everyone will be complaining that, “Oh look, they’re letting Malik score a century to cement his place when bowlers needed more practice”. That’s why I prefer logic over this emotional rah rah 😀 Logically, if Fawad was prettier than Malik he would be selected over him 🙂 Anyways, Fawad should definitely get a chance at some point in this series so we can gauge his worth in real matches. If it was up to me I would discard both off colored Malik and Misbah and give the younger players like Fawad and Shehzad more chances. I already have predicted that Younis will get rid of Malik at some point in this series but since Malik has a good record against Sri Lanka and has support from certain players in the team it will be a tough nut to crack.

    Chucking Conclusion

    I tend to I am agree with Omer on the chucking issue as there should be clear definition what chucking/throwing really is before we accuse bowlers based on some loosely written codes. Bowling actions should be examined and there should be clear consciousness over what is legal and what is not. However Javed and Khansahab have a valid point that bowlers with deformity in elbow, arm, wrist, and what not are having an unfair advantage over the bowler with normal limbs and action. Bowlers with deformity should not be allowed to compete against the ones with no deformity to make it a fair contest.

  44. #44 by Awas on July 1, 2009 - 3:19 PM

    Theossa

    Out of all people you are making “bowlers with deformity in elbow” an outcast too. 🙂

    My views on this are more radical. If to a naked eye (forgetting the TV and super slow mo’s) in the ground no one can tell if an overarm ball being bowled had a 15% kink in the arm or more or less then why make idiotic laws like that? The degree of bending is subjective and crass in match conditions, in my view. There was none before the technology came then why should it be now? India’s spinner Chandrasekhar had a polio arm and was a very good bowler but there were no biometric experts then to test him and there must have been many more like him. I once mentioned that the fact is that other than Sarwan, not a single bowler was found to have a legal action by biometrics before 15% rule came.

    To me what looks wrong is that Malinga has a completely quaint action unlike any other bowler. So, to me this is not cricket even though he may have no kink in his armoury.

    To me the game just favours batsmen and protects them with all kind of favours like helmets, pads and whatnot (although I’m not against it) and with laws like one bouncer rules, no kinks in the arm, covered pitches, pancake surfaces and so on. Are there any rules against a batsman playing any shot that he desires?

    All these rules are made to make the games last till the 5th day and get the most money out of spectators and TV.

  45. #45 by Theossa on July 1, 2009 - 3:56 PM

    Awas

    No one can deny that most of current cricket laws favor the batsmen and life is made very tough on bowlers, however, the argument Javed and Khansahab presented was about the unfair advantage of a bowler over another because of the so called deformity, hyperextension and such. If a bowler can produce more pace, bounce, or spin due to some physical condition then it’s a question of fair contest and advantage he is having over the opposition whether bowler or batsman. Murali for example has been able to generate spin on wickets the other bowlers could not so it does raises some questions if his deformity is assisting him generating ridiculous amount of spin even on pitches with grass. If this trend continues I’m afraid we’ll find more physically gifted bowlers say with 7 fingers on bowling hand, a fast bowler with a arm which can bend 90 degree the other way etc 😀

  46. #46 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 1, 2009 - 4:31 PM

    Awas Man, A wise man

    Good to see you back in action. And, you have spoken like a wise man, as always. I have also mentioned the name of Bhagwat Chandrasheker during time of Erapally Prassanna and Bedi. His polio arm was a blessing for him but deadly for others. Based on Chandrashaker’s polio hand Aamir Khan made that movie on cricket. Anyways.

    Theossa you and Omer should vouch cricketers to play in labs and on big screens but, that is not cricket. Like Awas said, like I have said in the thread, the bottom line is the on-field umpire should be able to see and decide because he is a human being and not a machine or a slow motion camera.

    In future the laws will be made by the machines and they will also invent a law bending machine too, then why play with humans? Why not robots? How about Six Million Dollar Man and Bionic Woman playing cricket?

    Ricky Ponting’s aluminum coated bat was made illegal, Dhoni’s extended wicketkeeping gloves were made illegal, rightly so. Because, those were giving unfair advantage to them. But, if someone makes a titanium helmet or an abdomen box made out of spider web it should be OK. Because, they are protecting themselves from deadly bouncers and yorkers. When you make a law there must be some sense in it and not based on some silly logic and backing up with some stupid scientific rules.

    There may not be a seven fingers bowling hand but, there are those who already have bigger, wider and longer hands than others but, that is not a deformity. Players with deformity who have advantage over others must play in a different league.

    The D/L method is also a stupid law, especially in the T20 format it is so comical and farcical, it gives advantage to the team batting second. England would have never lost that match against West Indies in the T20 WC had they played the full 20 overs quota or, the rules were different. Like, I suggested there must be a limit on number of wickets taken, that will create equal pressure for the team batting second. They do have that provision but, it keeps changing with the number of runs scored and, in case there is more rain.

    If West Indies were given a target to score those 80 odd runs in 9 overs they should have told them, you have only 5 players to score. (i mean within 5 wickets). If they were 79 for 5 they lose! You don’t have to create complicated logic and higher math with theorems and algorithms. Simple math is enough to work out a simple decision.

  47. #47 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 1, 2009 - 4:43 PM

    By throwing away 4 wickets in the second innings against a weak Sri Lankan domestic side, Pakistan has once again shown its weakness and vulnerability in playing test matches. They do not have the patience, endurance and confidence in them to play even a 3 day match. Neither the bowlers nor the batsmen showed any mettle and crumbled like a cookie. Imagine the scenario of a 5 day test match against a full side SL test team?

    Their fast bowlers have also shown that they cannot bowl long hours. In the second innings only the two spinners got wicket a piece.

    Younus Khan should not have declared. Because, two of the Sri Lankan batsmen scored centuries and to counter that he should have let Fawad Alam give them a warning that we also have century makers in the team. Winning or losing this match was not important, it was the batting practice and the mental strength that is needed. Sri Lanka got both.

    Sangakara and Jayawardene can play non-stop for 2 days and score double centuries each. We have Younus Khan and Mohammad Yousuf who can do. But, they are out of form. Especially Yousuf scored only 20 runs in two innings. What is he going to do against Malinga, Murali and Mendis?

    I think in test matches Younus should go by using the specialists openers like Butt and Khurram Manzoor and not experiment Malik as a make-shift opener only to accommodate him in the playing XI. Where will Malik play is a question mark. He can sit in the dressing room. After all the Delhi Daredevils used to make him sit in the dugout. According to Malik’s own philosophy a player must earn his place in the team, at the moment he cannot earn that place, unless it is thrust ed upon him because of his background.

    LOL @ some of the dimwit dolt paindoos who are suggesting that Malik must be reappointed as T20 captain after Younus Khan has announced his retirement from that format. “Fishfull Sinking Paindooz.”

  48. #48 by Theossa on July 1, 2009 - 4:55 PM

    Javed

    Using naked eye or umpire’s judgment is all good talk on LS but in a practical world there must be a guideline according to which these matters must be resolved. If you ask 10 people, they might have 10 different opinions about the same subject so a guideline is a must to have a common understanding what is legal and what is not. I’m afraid, ICC need to do a lot of work on that. I remember you were lamenting Darrel hair’s decision when he judged that Pakistan was tampering with ball during the Oval test match. So when there is a human, there will be an error. Most of the decisions are taken by on field umpire, third umpire, or match referee but there comes time when more is required in terms of technicality. Without rules, laws, and guidelines we are left with mere interpretations and judgments of individuals in cricket matters.

  49. #49 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 1, 2009 - 5:07 PM

    LOL Theossa

    Ball tampering and throwing are two different issues altogether. The on-field umpire cannot see or judge whether it is 7, 9, 13 or 15 degrees, You mean to say that he should refer to the 3rd umpire to measure the degrees each time?

    The ball tampering thing is a more serious issue and labs are not involved in it. The scuffed ball or the ball in question which is reportedly tampered is examined by humans and not machines and a panel of experts examine it and decide whether the umpire is right or is he biased. Darrel Hair did that on his own and paid a price. Now, not many umpires will have the guts to accuse anyone.

    Imagine if the ball was sent to the lab just like the forensic lab and they would make a TV serial like the CSI, CSI Miami, CSI N.Y. and what not. So, before you suggest something use your akhroat brain 😀

    Secondly, the bowler also knows very well when he is throwing the ball and jerking his arm and when the umpire declares a no-ball he won’t do it again. Like there is a rule for BEAMER that you bowl it twice you are taken out. Likewise if the law is made that if you bowl with a jerk twice or thrice you should be out then, he won’t do that. That will be a deterrent for players like Murali and the doosra wala. Whereas, Malinga, he should not be bowling with that action. If he does, it must be a no-ball and he should be out.

    If his shoulder is stiff he should get it fixed. When Shoaib Malik was referred for throwing, it was determined that a few pieces of shattered bones were floating in his arm due to that accident and had to be removed. If Malinga has a coconut under his arm, or he is an armballer like ballchino 😉 he should be kicked there.

  50. #50 by Theossa on July 1, 2009 - 5:16 PM

    Javed

    Javed, again it all boils down to individual interpretation like your idea that “bowler knows he is throwing or jerking”, how do you know this? What is jerking and throwing? How can we tell without a reference? Same goes for the questionable action, there must be a guideline, law, or reference relative to which we can determine if it is legal or not.

    @ your quote:

    The on-field umpire cannot see or judge whether it is 7, 9, 13 or 15 degrees, You mean to say that he should refer to the 3rd umpire to measure the degrees each time?

    No, read what I said above that there comes time when on field officials cannot determine so it must be referred to a technical review committee 🙂

  51. #51 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 1, 2009 - 5:29 PM

    Theossa

    How do I know if I am jerking, throwing or bowling? It is elementary my dear Theossa. Have you ever bowled? I tired to spin the ball without jerking the wrist, it spins but very little, I tried to jerk the wrist the ball spins a lot. Similarly, I tried to bowl round arm action which is called bowling and the speed and accuracy was not the same when I tried to throw it in Malinga’s style, it is fast and also the aim is more accurate than when I try to bowl.

    I have given the dictionary meanings of bowling and slinging, perhaps you have not read them scroll up and see. I don’t want to repeat it.

  52. #52 by khansahab on July 1, 2009 - 5:47 PM

    BREAKING NEWS

    Interim selector Wasim Bari was interviewed yesterday and these were his views:

    “(Imran Nazir) is now in contention for ODI’s and T20 against Sri Lanka.”

    “All we can do is select Fawad Alam in the squad. How he is utilised in games and where he features in the team gameplan is a decision for the coach and the captain to make.”

    (Bari went on to say that it is difficult for Fawad to get a place ahead of Younis, Yousuf, Malik, Afridi, Akmal and Razzaq. He also said Fawad is the best fielder in the country, an excellent runner between the wickets and he plays proper cricket shots).

  53. #53 by khansahab on July 1, 2009 - 6:48 PM

    Pakistanis turn against Pak Taliban, al Qaeda: poll

    NEW YORK: Most Pakistanis now see the Pakistani Taliban as well as al Qaeda as a critical threat to the country—a major shift from 18 months ago—and support the government and army in their fight in the Swat Valley against the Pakistani Taliban , according to the findings of new public opinion survey released Wednesday.

    The survey also reveals that the leader of Pakistan Muslim League (N) Nawaz Sharif is the most popular leader in Pakistan and President Asif Zardari the least popular politician. But Mr Zardari’s poor ratings have not affected Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani who continues to enjoy favourable ratings, as does the Chief Justice of Pakistan’s supreme court Iftikhar Chaudhry.

    ‘A sea change has occurred in Pakistani public opinion. The tactics and undemocratic bent of militant groups—in tribal areas as well as Swat—have brought widespread revulsion and turned Pakistanis against them,’ comments Clay Ramsay, research director at WorldPublicOpinion.org.

    However, he adds: ‘It’s crucial to understand that the US is resented just as much as before, despite the US having a new president.’

    An overwhelming majority think that Taliban groups who seek to overthrow the Afghan government should not be allowed to have bases in Pakistan.

    Pakistani leaders survey

    Asked about the nation’s leaders, a large majority—68 per cent—views President Zardari unfavourably (very, 50 per cent), but—unlike the recent past—there are multiple national leaders whom most do view favourably. Prime Minister Gilani is seems untarred by negative views of Zardari and gets favourable ratings from 80 per cent of Pakistanis. The restored Chief Justice Chaudhry is very popular (82 per cent), and opposition leader Nawaz Sharif is extremely popular (87per cent). The leader most associated with the Pakistani Taliban, Maulana Sufi Mohammad, is viewed positively by only 18 per cent of Pakistanis.

  54. #54 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 1, 2009 - 10:31 PM

    The survey also reveals that the leader of Pakistan Muslim League (N) Nawaz Sharif is the most popular leader in Pakistan and President Asif Zardari the least popular politician. But Mr Zardari’s poor ratings have not affected Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani who continues to enjoy favourable ratings, as does the Chief Justice of Pakistan’s supreme court Iftikhar Chaudhry.

    It shows that the majority of Pakistan’s population i.e., Punjabis are now voting for a Punjabi leadership. Gone are the days when they used to choose leaders based on true leadership qualities. Nawaz Sharif has rekindled the spirit of jingoism by his slogan “Jaag Punjabi Jaag.”

  55. #55 by Mohammed Munir on July 2, 2009 - 9:19 AM

    Theossa @ Comment no. 53 …

    Well brother Theo, it sure was a dead pitch and a warm-up game, but if anyone needed a century, it was Fawad, as he is being ‘forced’ to sit out and if he scored a century, then it would have been helpful for Younis to justify him in place of Malik or Razzaq. You can say that the tail-ender like Abdur Rauf played well, but look at our top notch batsmen’s performance on the same dead pitch ? I mean Yousuf, Misbah, Razzaq, Akmal, did anyone played a decent knock ? So if Fawad was playing well, then why declare and stop him at 83 ? BTW, what did we really achieved by declaring when we did ? I agree a batsman’s worth is in a real match, but what if that batsman is not even getting a chance to play a real match ?

    Secondly, you are also wrong on Malik being prettier, well actually Fawad is much more prettier, younger and fairer then Malik. Can’t you see, why I am supporting him ? 😉

    Lastly, you are a very loyal fan of Younis, a die-hard type. I am still waiting for you to ever see any fault in Younis. Yes, I may be hard on Younis at times, but I appreciate him when he is right and so does Khansahab and Javed Khan. None of us is a life-long committed fan of Younis or any other player for that matter, and we praise a good performance or a fair decision, no matter who makes it.

    But on the other hand, I do not remember you ever saying anything against your hero 😉

  56. #56 by Varun Suri on July 2, 2009 - 10:50 AM

    😉

  57. #57 by Mohammed Munir on July 2, 2009 - 11:11 AM

    Varun …

    What is this 😉 , are you checking the site if it works 😆

  58. #58 by Varun Suri on July 2, 2009 - 12:54 PM

    Samajhne wale Samajh gaye…jo na samjhe wo..?

  59. #59 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 2, 2009 - 1:49 PM

    Yae Chaand Khilla
    Yae Taaray hussay
    Yae Raat ajab matwali hai
    Varun………………. kaun kaun phassay? 😀

  60. #60 by M. Y. Kasim. on July 2, 2009 - 11:52 PM

    After all, LS has its voice heard in right places!!

    Wasim Bari did admit he would have selected Imran Nazir in 20/20 had he been selector at that time, and he will select him now during the SL series.

    Instead of wasting our time on useless discussions and controversies, we must persist on having deserving players in and the excess baggage out of the team.

    Even guys like Sarfaraz Nawaz are TALKING.

  61. #61 by M. Y. Kasim. on July 3, 2009 - 12:37 AM

    I just came across an article in DAWN re: the all time 20/20 Pak team.

    It makes a rather interesting and intriguing
    reading. Here is the writer’s choice:

    My alternative choice

    1. Hanif Mohammad (w/k)

    2. Saeed Anwar

    3. Zaheer Abbas … // Asif Iqbal

    4. Javed Mindad

    5. Inzizam-ul-Haq

    6. Shahid Afridi… // Wasim Raja

    7. Imran Khan (c)

    8. Wasim Akram

    9. Fazal Mahmood

    10. Saqlain Mushtaq

    11. Umer Gul …. // Waqar Younis

    I have chosen Asif Iqbal, Wasim Raja and Waqar Younis in place of Zaheer Abbas, Shahid Afridi and Umer Gul as in my opinion these three are better choices.

  62. #62 by khansahab on July 3, 2009 - 9:43 AM

    Murali is injured and will miss the first Test. That means Pakistan has a good chance of making a positive impression in the first Test. I think if the Pakistanis have un-coded Mendis, then only Murali should have been the threat because of his experience.

  63. #63 by khansahab on July 3, 2009 - 9:48 AM

    Kasim sahab

    I think some of those players are not fit for T20. I would go with:

    Imran Nazir
    Shahid Afridi
    Shoaib Malik
    Misbah ul Haq
    Younis Khan/any middle order batsman
    Kamran Akmal
    Abdul Razzaq
    Wasim Akram
    Waqar Younis
    Saqlain Mushtaq
    Umar Gul

  64. #64 by khansahab on July 3, 2009 - 10:19 AM

    Ijaz Butt has dissolved all the selection committees and wants to make one committee that will select all junior and senior teams.

    It is rumoured the new Chief Selector will be anyone of Mohammad Ilyas (Imran Farhat’s father in law), Saleem Yousuf (former wicketkeeper) and Haroon Rashid Dar (former Test player).

    It has also suggested that one selector will be picked from each province. This has irked Hanif Mohammad who does not want quota system to govern cricketing matters. Previously, Qadir was the Chief Selector whereas Shoaib Mohammad and Saleem Jaffar, the other selectors, were from Sindh and it is thought that is the reason why Butt wants to keep one selector from each province. Hanif Mohammad has written to Zardari complaining about Butt and the treatment Butt has given to his son, Shoaib Mohammad:

    http://cricketnext.in.com/news/hanif-blasts-pcb-in-a-letter-to-zardari/42198-13-single.html

    Meanwhile Imran Nazir apologised to Butt which is why he is in contention for the Sri Lanka ODI’s and T20.

  65. #65 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 3, 2009 - 12:27 PM

    “IJAZ BUTT PARDONS IMRAN NAZIR” This is the headline news today and, I have to say, what I have to say:

    Mr. Butt, if you stop speaking from your rear end, then you will not have to chew your words and eat them too. You are a big embarrassment to the nation.

    Imran Nazir is a dashing all-rounder and if he has shown dissent against an umpire’s decision at a domestic match, it is not such a big deal that you ban him for life. In the past many players have shown more serious dissents at international level and even when they are in foreign countries and they got away with small penalties and punishments and no one was banned for life. So, by banning Imran Nazir for life for thumping his cricket bat on the ground, you made a fool out of yourself.

    This is not the first time you have done this. After taking over the office at the PCB as a new Chairman, you’ve talked to Jeff Lawson the ex-coach on telephone and assured him that he is doing a fine job as a coach and a few hours later he hears the news on TV that he is fired by you. And, then you did not have the courtesy to talk to him, in fact you were refusing to accept his telephone calls. From where have you acquired this decency? You can be a Butt, but don’t forget that you are representing the nation as the Chairman of the PCB.

    When the Sri Lankan team was attacked in Lahore by the terrorists you did not address any press conference or gave any statements to the media, it was your job as Chairman of the PCB to call a press conference to apologize and sympathize with the Sri Lankan team and the nation. Where were you then? You came out of your Butt enclave much later when the team had already gone and so many controversies and rumours were spreading, yet you did not say anything of substance.

    Time and again you have been doing this, embarrassing the whole nation. You are a lucky bastard that the team under Younus Khan had one the T20 World Cup and you sit there and take credit for it. The worst things happen to cricket during your tenure. Iif one starts counting them, the list is endless. And not only to cricket even within your own administration you have employed your relatives and you spend the PCB money for private trips.

    The chief selector had to resign in the middle of the world cup tournament i.e., due to your nepotism, jingoism and your “buttheadednes” and the lack of knowledge of the game and of administration. Should you not retire and go back to your Halwai ki Dukaan? Spare us for the sake of cricket in Pakistan.

  66. #66 by khansahab on July 3, 2009 - 3:12 PM

    Cricinfo has reported that it is very likely Malik will play in the middle order and will contribute as a second spinner. According to Cricinfo Razzaq is not playing tomorrow.

    This is Cricinfo’s probable XI tomorrow:

    Pakistan (likely) 1 Salman Butt, 2 Khurram Manzoor, 3 Younis Khan (capt), 4 Mohammad Yousuf, 5 Misbah-ul-Haq / Faisal Iqbal, 6 Shoaib Malik, 7 Kamran Akmal (wk), 8 Danish Kaneria / Saeed Ajmal, 9 Umar Gul, 10 Mohammad Aamer, 11 Abdur Rauf

    It is a shame that in order to protect Malik, Fawad is again being ignored. It seems that the bloggers I mentioned a few days ago were right when they said that Younis will not let Fawad complete his century in the warm up because doing so will mean Fawad will have to be played.

    If Razzaq had to be sidelined for the 1st Test, Fawad should definitely have been picked ahead of Malik.

  67. #67 by khansahab on July 3, 2009 - 4:54 PM

    Coach and manager taking team to disaster: Abdul Qadir

    LAHORE: Former chairman selection committee of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Abdul Qadir said that Younis Khan is praising those who persuaded the chairman PCB to send notice to the captain.

    Talking with Geo News, Abdul Qadir said that he never compromised on principles.

    He said that during the series against Australia in Dubai, Younis Khan said to him that Intikhab Alam should not be a part of the team selection.

    Abdul Qadir said that manager Yawar Saeed and coach Intikhab Alam had complained to chairman Ijaz Butt against Younis Khan and then the chairman PBC had sent a notice to Younis directing that he should concentrate only on captaincy.

    He further said that the captain of the national team is still respectable to him.

    Abdul Qadir said that manager Yawar Saeed and coach Intikhab Alam are not bringing any improvement in the team but they are taking it to disaster.

  68. #68 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 3, 2009 - 4:56 PM

    khansahab

    Not just Malik, he could have played even ahead of Faisal Iqbal, because Fawad Alam has the temperament to play a slow and patient innings, as well as an aggressive one, besides he can bowl and at the moment he is the best fielder in the squad. But, such is the politics in Pakistan, the PCB and the cricket team that he is in the squad and will sit out most of the time.

    Younus Khan is a spineless captain, he cannot afford to take chances, he says he is a brave captain but, he is a wuss. He has not included Fawad Alam in the team because he is afraid of criticism i.e., in case Pakistan fails, he would receive heavy criticism from Malik’s supporters that dropping Malik was a blunder. Especially in light of Malik’s lone test century 148* and that too, against Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka.

    As a captain he has to see who is in form and who isn’t? Even Khurram Manzoor got a chance ahead of Fawad Alam and he has this specialist tag on his back that’s why. The irony is, like Shahid Afridi, they want to label Fawad Alam as an ODI or a T20 player and, they want to make him sit in the dugout. What a load of Butt full of Bull Feces.

  69. #69 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 8:08 AM

    Strange, no one has commented about the Test. I guess we are all feeling like Abdul and only feel interested in T20 cricket 🙂

    Akmal and Younis dropped one catch each. The one Akmal dropped was apparently a sitter. However Pakistan has done well to take 3 wickets.

    Younis as expected, played Malik and did not play Fawad Alam. One must question why Malik was played when he was sitting out in the warm up and when Fawad played the best knock out of all the Pakistani players.

  70. #70 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 8:53 AM

    People say about Pathans that they are talented. Younis Khan can bowl, field and bat. His bowling is much better than Malik’s.

    Younis has also acted in dramas when he was a young man.

  71. #71 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 8:58 AM

    Younis’s captaincy has worked and no one can deny that. But he still makes some errors. When Matthews came into bat Younis continued with Malik, his worst bowler. He let Matthews settle against Malik. I think Matthews even hit a boundary off Malik in that over.

  72. #72 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 9:49 AM

    Ramiz again showed his bias today. Dilshan and Matthews were going after the spinners Ajmal and Malik, and Younis brought himself into the attack. A lot of people are rather touchy about Ajmal for some reason. Ramiz was unhappy that Ajmal was replaced by Younis. So Younis bowled one down the leg side and it went for 4 and Ramiz was quick to criticise him. Ramiz said amongst other things, “I hope it is not a case of, I am the captain so I want to bowl.”

    However, the other (Sri Lankan) commentator differed and said that, Younis has bowled pretty well and also got the ball to swing. It must be noted that earlier Younis took an important wicket and he has also bowled better than Ajmal. There was no point in Ramiz saying that and criticising Younis. Younis has done a good job as a captain and as a bowler in this Test.

    Unfortunately some people are still upset about Malik being sacked as captain. They wanted Malik to remain captain and they want the likes of Ajmal to be promoted to no end. They are all Pakistanis and there should be no favouritism.

  73. #73 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 10:37 AM

    Ajmal dropped a catchable chance off Gul. In Gul’s previous over Ajmal mistimed his dive and misfielded as a result. Now Ajmal dropped a catch off Gul’s bowling.

    I have condemned Ajmal’s body language. When he dropped a crucial catch off Afridi earlier this year (Akmal had dropped a catch in the same over) he turned his back on Afridi very arrogantly and showed no apology or remorse when Afridi was shouting at him.

    This time again Ajmal showed no remorse and did not apologise to Gul. Ajmal needs to stop his paindoo-pun. He has not bowled brilliantly today.

  74. #74 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 11:10 AM

    I was speaking about Younis and how well he has bowled today. He has taken another wicket.

  75. #75 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 11:13 AM

    LOL honestly this is getting ridiculous. Malik has just dropped a catch off Ajmal. When the ball was up in the air Ramiz said, “This should be taken……Malik is a fantastic fielder”. But when Malik dropped the catch, Ramiz quickly decided to protect him again and said, “It is never easy to catch those….a valiant effort by Malik and a good one”.

    Anyone playing international cricket could have caught that.

  76. #76 by Awas on July 4, 2009 - 11:21 AM

    Two wickets in 6 overs for Younus is a good effort. Ajmal hasn’t been effective. They should have kept Kaneria instead of Ajmal.

    khansahab, after what Bari had said that because of so many experienced players vying for a place in the middle order and that Fawad’s time will come later, I didn’t think Fawad would get picked.

  77. #77 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 11:33 AM

    Awas

    I also thought he will not get picked, but what I didn’t think was that he will be replaced by Malik. Bari also mentioned Razzaq’s name in his list when he was talking about seniors who ought to get a place before Fawad. It makes no logical sense to play Malik after Fawad scored the best knock in the warm-up and Malik was sitting out. If Malik sat out on accounts of being an automatic selection and the best batsman, then there were better batsmen than him playing in the warm up, like Misbah and Yousuf. If he sat out because his place was uncertain, or that Younis wanted Fawad to have a go, then Fawad did prove himself as a worthy contender for that middle order position. It is when these things happen that don’t make any sense, that you think there is politics and favouritism in the process.

    I agree Ajmal was ineffective. He got tailenders in the end but anyone could have got them. He will make a greater impact on the 4th and 5th days because of the cracks in the pitch, but so would have Kaneria, had he been playing. I still think in Tests Kaneria is a better option. It is just a gut feeling. Being a legspinner Kaneria will always create more chances than Ajmal. If he is more expensive, it doesn’t matter because in Tests taking wickets is more important. Ajmal has failed the crucial Test, which was whether he could best Kaneria by taking important wickets on the 1st and 2nd days of the Test.

  78. #78 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 11:39 AM

    What the hell was Butt thinking?

  79. #79 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 11:55 AM

    What a poor way to get out. I don’t know why Manzoor and Younis are feeling so edgy. That is why they say sometimes Pakistanis don’t use their brains.

    In the previous over Younis almost ran Manzoor out and now Manzoor played across the line unnecessarily and got leg before.

  80. #80 by Awas on July 4, 2009 - 12:00 PM

    I can’t believe its 5-2. Pathetic!

  81. #81 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 12:01 PM

    Now this is the “bad captaincy” bit. Younis should have told Manzoor to keep it nice and easy and not hop around the crease.

    Younis himself is always a nervous starter when he has to play the role of the makeshift opener. That is exactly why I used to say he should not bat at no 3. Today he had difficulty negotiating the swing and started hopping around the crease and then Manzoor decided to copy him.

  82. #82 by M. Y. Kasim. on July 4, 2009 - 4:25 PM

    Khansahab,

    Who’s photograph are you using now? You look older than me…Lol.

    At least, Younus played Abdur Rauf instead of Abdul Razzaq, he showed some guts!

    Lets hope he summons enough strength to play Fawad Alam in the subsequent Tests.

  83. #83 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 4:40 PM

    Kasim sahab

    It’s Marlon Brando from Superman whose photo I’m using 🙂

    I will only use Robert De Niro or Marlon Brando’s photos. When Awas takes off his Pacino photo, I might use Pacino photos too 😉

  84. #84 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 7:35 PM

    Omer

    I am agree generally with the exception of when you say that even Malik’s staunchest supporters feel he is not a Test player. I have been on other blogs where they don’t want to hear anything bad about Malik. Malik has a substantial fan following and they want Malik to be made captain and be an automatic selection in all formats, including Tests. It is disappointing though that sometimes this fan following is because of regionalism.

  85. #85 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 7:47 PM

    Omer

    What do you think the playing XI should be then? If you want to have both Ajmal and Kaneria in the team, and presumably you also want to have Razzaq in the team then you will have to exclude Malik and 1 more player. Will that be Misbah? Or Rauf?

    I still feel the best XI is:

    Butt
    Manzoor
    Younis
    Yousuf
    Misbah
    Fawad
    Akmal
    Gul
    Rauf
    Aamer
    Kaneria

    Younis has to play his 3 specialist pacers. We have seen how these pitches are assisting pace- hence the need for all 3 of them. There isn’t a lot of scope for spinners it seems but in any event Kaneria can do the job with Fawad complementing him. It seems Younis is a handy bowler too, so including the 2 part timers Fawad and Younis, Pakistan will have 6 bowlers so this isn’t a necessarily weak bowling attack. The batting is very strong too- there are 4 proper, middle order batsmen. This can be one of the strongest batting line ups in world cricket.

  86. #86 by khansahab on July 4, 2009 - 7:58 PM

    Omer

    I am agree. What I don’t like is that I don’t mind regionalism that much if someone like Aamer is being supported, because he has genuine talent, even if he is not a long term Test prospect. I don’t understand why Malik benefits so much from politics. Malik’s problem is not just that he has limited ability, if you look at his domestic record, he is clearly suited more to limited overs games. He came as a tailender, he was promoted ahead of better players and then he became an opener. Somehow he became a senior player and then, captain. He has had no consistent role. Sometimes he is an opener, sometimes he is a no 3 batsman, sometimes he is a middle order batsman. That has also affected his ability, because he has not been allowed to settle in one given role.

    They don’t realise this. If Khurram Manzoor scores under 25 in the 2nd innings, Malik might open with Butt in the next match. They will destroy the career of a specialist opener, for the sake of Malik who seems to be a “specialist nothing”. All of it is not his fault. He has not been allowed to settle in one position. But on the other hand, he has not exactly appeared like he is suited to that position, either.

    Sometimes people have different ways of looking at the same thing. Most people were pleased with Malik’s performance in T20 WC 2009, but I think he let the team down bigtime. It is a poor excuse to say he consolidated, because if he was consolidating, he was doing a poor job. He did not play with confidence and most of his runs came through outer and inside edges, mishits, mistimed drives etc.

  87. #87 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 5, 2009 - 2:24 AM

    In order to get selected for the 2nd test, Salman Butt needs to score a century in the second innings or a match winning innings, otherwise, he is gone. I think it would be worth resting him, he is totally out of form. People blame Afridi for getting out on a first ball duck. How many times Salman Butt got out on a duck? The former played stupid emotional shots i.e., wanted to hit a first ball six and got out, but Salman Butt apparent shows a cool head and yet he got out on a duck so many times. He either edges the ball into the slips or get bowled out.

    I never really liked Khurram Manzoor’s style, people may say that he is good for test matches but I am not impressed. I was expecting this kinda start from the Pakistani openers that they will get out cheaply before the score is 20-30 both would be gone, but they got out faster than expected.

    Umar Gul was not effective at all, if Younus Khan can take 2 wickets and the other two fast bowlers got 3 and 2 then it was just no Umar Gul’s day. Ajmal got 2 wickets of the tail enders. If Murali was playing things would have been different for Sri Lanka. They should have got them under 230 but, Pakistani players become complacent and 292 is not an easy score to build a lead upon it.

    I wonder what Malik, Misbah and Yousuf have in reply, because all three of them are out of form. On paper Pakistan has a strong middle order, it is strong IF and WHEN it clicks.

  88. #88 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 5, 2009 - 8:48 AM

    In the last paragraph of my last comment I expressed my concern about the form of the middle order and I am glad to see that Mohammad Younus is back in form at the right time. His much needed 68* is going to give him a lot of confidence to his game as well as to his team mates Misbah will also be more confident out there with him and Malik plays well when the going is good.

    The surprise pack was the nightwatchman Abdur Rauf. His useful knock of 31 came very handy after the openers collapsed early. Pakistani batsmen have learned how to handle Mendis and they tackle him very well and that is a very good sign. Slowly but surely Pakistan is building an innings and must go on to build a useful lead in the first innings. If rain gods don’t interrupt much, there must be a result at Galle.

  89. #89 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 9:18 AM

    More bloopers from Waqar:

    He called Mohammad Aamer, “Amir Khan”.

  90. #90 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 9:21 AM

    Javed A Khan

    I agree the openers were disappointing, but I think we can forgive them. This pitch was seaming pretty well and Pakistani batsmen are not used to that. Even Younis Khan struggled. Just before the over Manzoor was trapped LBW, Younis survived an LBW appeal which was plumb. I still believe Butt and Manzoor are the best Test openers Pakistan has. I don’t see any other specialist opener surviving more than 25 balls per innings.

    The only exception is that if Akmal and Afridi open, or if Malik and Afridi open, there will be room in the middle order for players like Fawad Alam and Razzaq, which might help Pakistan. Nasir Jamshed, Ahmed Shahzad, Imran Nazir- I don’t think these players have the maturity or technique to survive at Test level.

    Good return for Yousuf and Misbah is also looking good.

  91. #91 by Mohammed Munir on July 5, 2009 - 9:24 AM

    So then ….

    Fawad not kept out form the playing eleven one more time. (That century in a 4 days match would have helped).

    Salman Butt was a ‘Phhutt’. (Why they play him?).

    That second opener also went down without leaving any impression.

    Abdur Rauf played well again and scored 31 valuable runs. (This guy seems more like a bowler who can bat).

    Our bowlers did a great job restricting Sri Lankan for 292.

    Once again our worries are in the batting department.

    Mohammed Yousuf showed his class and proved PCB’s stupidity in keeping him out.

  92. #92 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 5, 2009 - 9:39 AM

    Just when he started to play shots he got confused and got out – Misbah, mistimed a leading edge and got out in a silly manner as usual. Anyways, he had a Yousuful Partniship of 139 and the good thing is MOYO is all set there to score a big century. Now, it is Malik’s time to repay the debts.

  93. #93 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 9:42 AM

    Phew! Close LBW appeal survived by Yousuf. But I think it was outside the line of off stump.

  94. #94 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 5, 2009 - 9:45 AM

    khansahab

    Waqar’s bloopers are fun, they are still better than Ramiz and Wasim Akram’s biased comments, especially Wasim’s claptrap. I enjoy Waqar’s bloopers, overall he is nice.

  95. #95 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 5, 2009 - 9:47 AM

    khansahab

    I don’t understand that swinging ball theory. How come Abdur Rauf survived as a nightwatchman and how come the specialist openers didn’t?

  96. #96 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 5, 2009 - 9:53 AM

    Mendis initials are B.A.W.

    Hence it is BAW Mendis, which sounds more like Baw ji….

    Baw Mendisssssssssssssssssssssss ujjj Pra Yousaf tanoo waddi phaity lagaeeeeee

  97. #97 by Mohammed Munir on July 5, 2009 - 9:53 AM

    Khansahab, Misbah out after a defiant knock. However, it feels like he was only there to make a 50.

    This is lately so typical of most Pakistani batsmen, they play only for themselves and also have issues with their stamina. Misbah have concreted his place for the next two Tests with this fifty and now it depends what Malik want to do. I think Malik will play better and he will score here, because he have heat up his A55, as Fawad and Razzaq both are sitting out waiting to replace him in the next game, that is if did not play well 😉

    I think this is a very good opportunity for Pakistan to go one up, if they get a good first innings lead as Murali is also not playing in this game.

    Mohammed Yousuf deserves a century and what a dream return it will be for him.

  98. #98 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 10:01 AM

    Munir sahab

    Well said there and I agree.

    Javed A Khan

    I am agree with you too. Waqar is less biased than Wasim and Ramiz. He is also less of a show off, and he is more genuine than Wasim Akram. If he wanted he could have adopted that glamorous lifestyle Wasim has adopted.
    Waqar got married to a doctor who was more conservative than Wasim’s wife, who was meant to be very liberal, in fact incompatible with Pakistani society.

    I think Rauf survived because he was only there to block, he was not playing any shots. I also feel it has something to do with the conditions- the ball was swinging more towards the evening and then did not swing that much this morning. Waqar said something about the ball swinging more towards the evening when the temperature dropped.

  99. #99 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 10:03 AM

    Munir sahab

    Actually I feel with politics backing him like this, Malik will get selected in the 2nd Test even if he gets dismissed for 10.

    If I was Sangakarra I would use pace to unnerve Malik- he is a better player of spin. In fact even Yousuf is a better player of spin.

    It would be interesting to see whether Malik and Yousuf can form a partnership here. Apparently they have not been on talking terms.

  100. #100 by Mohammed Munir on July 5, 2009 - 10:17 AM

    Khansahab, Apparently they have not been on talking terms.

    Should we expect another run-out here ? 😉

    BTW, Yousuf doesn’t talk much when he is batting, as he is busy finishing his ‘para’.

  101. #101 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 10:18 AM

    Ramiz Raja should shut the fu*k up. Everything he said about Malik a few seconds ago was wrong:

    “Malik is good enough to make into the Test side as a batting all rounder”

    Er, no. That implies he can bowl too, but his bowling is of no significance in Test cricket. He is playing only as a batsman. He was not played in the warm up. A substantial number of cricket fans believe that he is not a Test player. Ramiz should wake up and maybe meet more people of other ethnicities in Pakistan and he will know what people think about Malik.

    Malik is a team player

    Wrong again. Someome who wanted regionalism to flourish in the team is not a team player. Someone who wanted to kick the senior player Afridi out is also not a team player. Someone who has a history of throwing a match, playing politics etc can never be a team player.

    “Malik has an excellent temperament”

    It doesn’t seem like that considering all the politics he has played and what the newspapers have said.

  102. #102 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 10:42 AM

    LOL Waqar again,

    “Malik had a bit of “a” room there…..”

  103. #103 by Mohammed Munir on July 5, 2009 - 10:48 AM

    C.E.N.T.U.R.Y !!

    Wow … What a player this Mohammed Yousuf is.

    Fantastic, Extraordinary, Out-of-this-World, Superb, and absolutely a dream-come-true return by a maestro.

    This guy is simply amazing.

    Too good !!

  104. #104 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 11:05 AM

    Omer

    Malik is looking pretty good on 30 odd 🙂

    Do you have anything to say?

  105. #105 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 11:23 AM

    Munir sahab

    You were right and it was a run out in the end. There was no point for Malik calling the run.

    Now Ramiz is not criticising Malik for calling that run.

  106. #106 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 11:46 AM

    What a shot by Umar Gul.

    Shot of the day! Yousuf should play like that….

    Huge six 🙂

  107. #107 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 11:50 AM

    Now what a shot by Akmal. He blasted that through the covers. Malik should learn something from that.

  108. #108 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 11:56 AM

    Gul thought he was still playing T20. Kulasekara has bowled very well. He’s one of those who are good with the new ball but useless with the old one.

  109. #109 by Mohammed Munir on July 5, 2009 - 12:03 PM

    8 down, and not a good sign. Pakistan was in a very good position and it seems they did not use it well. Shame on Malik for firstly getting Mohammed Yousuf run-out, and then getting out himself at such crucial time.

    I hope they try to get as much of lead as they can.

    Akmal is also still in that T20 mode 😉 If Akmal plays like this with a new ball, who needs openers.

  110. #110 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 12:09 PM

    Now Akmal has ran himself out.

    If Pakistan was playing a specialist batsman instead of Malik they could have crossed 425.

    Pakistan just showing lack of commitment there. Firstly Malik ran a nothing run and got Yousuf out. Then Malik couldn’t play pace and swing and there was no need for Akmal to run there. Only Pakistan can do silly things like these.

    It is time to abandon politics and regionalism and give Fawad a chance instead of Malik.

  111. #111 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 5, 2009 - 1:45 PM

    khansahab and Munir

    Malik has cemented his place for the remaining two test with his 35 and so has Misbah. Both plays for themselves. Ramiz Raja is a Ch2yum Sulfate, the older he is getting the more biased he is becoming. He shows his unconditional love for Shoaib Malik.

    It was a good chance to score 400 plus and put Sri Lanka under pressure. Now, it is the fast bowlers job to take wickets early morning and apply the brakes. To get Sangakara, Jayawardene and Dilshan out again cheaply is not an easy task. Yet, it is possible to do that, provided they play with determination.

    Secondly, it would be asking too much from Mohammad Yousuf to score big in the second innings. Imagine where Pakistan would have stood without his century? Pakistani batsmen seldom play well in the second innings, remember the warm up match, even in that match they have proved that they play very casually in the second innings. Therefore, it is important for the openers to stay as long as possible and make runs too. But, the first mission is to get them out under 200.

  112. #112 by khansahab on July 5, 2009 - 8:48 PM

    This match ought to produce a result unless rain intervenes. Pakistan can win if they field well and if well planned bowling changes are utilised.

    What I am slightly worried about is that spin has not been a major threat so far. On the 3rd day it is questionable whether Ajmal will be able to extract spin. Normally on pitches like these spin only works on the last 2 days of the Test.

    The new ball also lost its effect pretty early in the morning. So it seems now batting is easier on this track, which means Pakistan must not be complacent and they must attack if they want to win. Pakistan were blessed with Sri Lanka not scoring over 300 at home.

    Malik’s inclusion makes no sense. As a batsman he is not able to score when the pitch is assisting swing. As a bowler he is not needed because Ajmal is the specialist off spinner. He has a 50% chance of scoring a decent knock and he has a 0% chance of impressing with the ball. This makes his net utility 25%- it means he has a 1/4 chance of making a worthwhile contribution. I don’t see why the team management can’t think in these terms.

  113. #113 by Mohammed Munir on July 6, 2009 - 4:05 AM

    Quote of the Day … 😆

    “If swine flu is a pandemic, this [the trouble with the bouncer] is becoming an endemic for India.

    Fazeer Mohammed uses an interesting analogy during commentary to explain India’s travails.

  114. #114 by khansahab on July 6, 2009 - 9:51 AM

    Omer

    That link you have posted is a 200mb file- it is not a Cricinfo chart about Malik’s stats.

    What is in that video? 🙂

  115. #115 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 6, 2009 - 12:11 PM

    A GOLDEN CHANCE for Pakistan. But, are they going to take advantage of it or throw their wickets away just like Khurram Manzoor and then Younus Khan did?

    Like, I said yesterday that, “the only way Salman Butt can retain his spot in the second test is by scoring a hundred or a match winning innings.” Hundred is not possible in this low scoring match, but a match winning innings is not impossible. Younus Khan is a shaky batsman in the early overs and they got him soon.

    Therefore, it is time for Salman Butt to pay his debts to the team and the country after repeated failures this is the time to stick around and score. Whatever Mohammad Yousuf scores will be a bonus. We also need to see what Malik has to give? His role could be important or absolutely insignificant. He might sit in the dressing room throughout while others play or, he comes in with a timid face, plays a few shots here and there and goes back. Under the circumstances, only Kamran Akmal has the ability to change the match in a few overs like he once did against South Africa against SA. To take the match to that level is a bit risky. Because, Misbah is not a finisher and I don’t expect from him. These two Butt & MoYo must take the team out of the woods.

  116. #116 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 6, 2009 - 12:26 PM

    Technically it is possible for Butt to score a hundred he is on 28 now and 97 runs needed to win. So, even in this low scoring match it is technically possible for him to score a century. I did not check the scores when I wrote that comment earlier.

    Imagine how much easier it would have been for Pakistan had they taken a lead of 100 plus.

    Now, that the light is offered and the batsmen have accepted it, so its all going to be tomorrow. And, early morning dew, swinging ball, damp wicket, new focus needed for the batsmen to settle in etc., in short everything will come into account and first one hour is very crucial and they have to play through that hour.

    Spin is not effective but, fast bowling is doing the trick. BAW Mendis cannot mesmerize Pakistani players as much as he did earlier in Pakistan, especially MoYo has got some “Toadka” to tackle him. After hitting a boundary MoYo says: ” BAWji mai ek arz karaaan.…..” Perhaps Awas and Munir knows what it means…..

  117. #117 by Mohammed Munir on July 6, 2009 - 1:26 PM

    Javed …

    Sorry I did not get that “BAWji mai ek arz Karaaan….” Wali Baat.

    You are right, Yousuf have done his part in the first innings and whatever he did now will be a bonus.

    Malik, Misbah, Akmal, I think we should get through this easily one, Inshallah.

    To me, this game is in our bag, but with Pakistan you can never be sure and we always keep the interest, in the game, alive no matter what 😉

  118. #118 by Mohammed Munir on July 6, 2009 - 1:47 PM

    Javed Khan …

    I hope and pray that for once you are WRONG !!

    You have mentioned that Malik have cemented his place in the remaining two Tests with his 38 runs, but I just pray you are proved wrong this time. IMO, we have seen enough of Malik and they should give a proper and well deserved chance to Fawad Alam.

    You are right about Ramiz Raja, with time he is loosing it. I used to like him and I ‘thought’ of him as a good unbiased commentator, but over time he have changed and he is surely loosing respect, which was earned earlier. On the other Wasim have always been bias and his comments are not honest. Wasim is even trying to take full credit for finding Amir and assisting him, as if he is his mother 😉

    Yesterday I passed a comment no. 105, “Once again our worries are in the batting department.

    While after having written these comments and specially when Yousuf and Misbah were batting, I thought to myself that I commented too early and may be our batters will play well this time and shall get us decent lead in the first innings. But to my utter surprise, our batsmen did not disappoint me much and they all fell down like house of cards and Pakistan could hardly muster a lead of mere 50 runs.

    Today once again we are in good position and this is again due to our bowlers and NOT batting.

    Sri Lanka are all out with a second innings lead of only 168 runs, and we are 71 for 2 chasing that requiring another 97 with 8 wickets in hand, and from here, we should try not to falter much and get 1-0 lead in the series. Even ‘if’ we won this game, it will be thanks to our bowlers and not batsmen, which is such a shame for our much experienced and high caliber batters.

    BTW, Younis should seriously consider bowling himself, and why did he not bowl Malik ?? He was bowling Malik in all T20 games 😉

    Our Captain, Coach, and Selectors should try to understand this situation that our batting is the problem area for us and is letting us down, so why can’t they do something about it? For the starters, they can play Fawad Alam in place of Malik and they can also think about bringing in Razzaq in place of one of the openers which will also give us an extra option of another bowler, while Kamran can open the innings with one of the regular openers. Kamran can not be worst then the existing two openers 😉

  119. #119 by M. Y. Kasim. on July 6, 2009 - 3:28 PM

    Let me make something clear for most of you.
    Abdur Rauf is an all-rounder.

    For the last several years he was in great form, bowling around 90mph and batting reasonably well. He was continously and under a well-thought out plan sidelined and ignored just like several other desrving youngsters.

    His “sin?” As Awas has rightly put, “why was he born in Karachi?” Plus those two druggies had monopolised Pakistan’s fast bowling attack.

    The main culprit, according to my thinking is none other than that sweet-talker, Mian “Ulloo.” He did not have the moral courage to stand up and do what was right, or else resign in protest if he cant help it, like Abdul Qadir did.

    Most of you will remember during the last series against India, The Pakistan team management asked for Abdur Rauf by name specifically when it needed a fast bowler,
    they sent Rao Iftikhar instead, while all the time Mian Ulloo was sitting there with the team in Bangalore!

    The reason given by the then CEO, PCB, Shafqat Naghmi was Abdur Rauf is an all-rounder and not a fast bowler!! Have you ever heared a more ridiculous argument in your life?

    I was, from the start of the tour calling for the inclusion of Abdur Rauf and another fast bowler by the name of Mohammed Irshad since both the druggies were in-effective and Umer Gul was sent back due to some reason.

    BTW, whatever happened to M. Irshad? never heared of him lately.

  120. #120 by khansahab on July 6, 2009 - 4:34 PM

    Kasim sahab

    Abdur Rauf is not from Karachi? He is from some village in Punjab. I think the reason why he was not selected is bad luck/selectors’ bias and also that he was not that quick. Age is not on his side. Ever since I have followed Pakistan cricket he has always been mentioned as a “medium pacer”, never a genuine pace bowler.

    Tauqir Zia was asked which cricketer as suffered the most because of selectors’ bias, and he mentioned the name of Fazl-e-Akbar of Peshawar. However he was quick to add that Akbar would never get a chance ahead of Wasim, Waqar, Aaqib, Zahid and Shoaib Akhtar. I believe that makes sense. All these bowlers were better than Akbar. What a pity Fazl e Akbar and Abdur Rauf are not the same bowlers they used to be.

    Mohd Irshad had back injuries I believe. After that he was never able to bowl at 90mph. Now he doesn’t even feature in departmental cricket- such has been his relegation. Suffice to say he is not a reputable domestic cricketer now.

  121. #121 by Awas on July 6, 2009 - 4:35 PM

    Munir

    In test matches, a batsman keeper never bats as an opener (or rarely at least) simply because keeping is a very demanding job as it is. In tests, only regular openers should open. If you remember, even Gilchrist a proper opener in ODI’s etc never opened in tests.

    As Akmal’s keeping is not all that good, in test matches at least they should use a more reliable keeper but keep him for ODI’s and T20’s perhaps. It’s good to have two keepers vying for a place like we had in the days of Moin Khan and Rashid Latif. That time it definitely created a healthy competition and it was good for Pakistan.

  122. #122 by Mohammed Munir on July 6, 2009 - 5:53 PM

    Khansahab …

    I agree with you on keeper’s point. Yes, and Sarfraz Ahmed is a good keeper and perhaps even better then Akmal behind the wickets, may be not batting.

    Recently he played well in Pakistan A team in their match against Australia A and also scored well.

    Good Luck to him.

  123. #123 by Mohammed Munir on July 6, 2009 - 5:56 PM

    TREAT FOR AFRIDI FANS …
    (The following is Afridi’s Exclusive Interview in today’s UAE Newspaper, Khaleej Times)

    Awesome Afridi

    DUBAI — Pakistan’s Twenty20 World Cup hero Shahid Afridi has an uncomplicated style of batting — hitting the ball cleanly and clearing the fence effortlessly. The flamboyant cricketer has almost the same attitude even during a conversation — he comes across as straight, cheerful and simple. In short, an uncomplicated and cool person.

    The aggressive all-rounder, who helped Pakistan clinch the Twenty20 World Cup, talked about the team’s World Cup triumph, his transformation as a match-winning bowler, controlled aggression, Test chances and the influence of Bob Woolmer in his career, among other things, in an exclusive interview to Khaleej Times here on Sunday. Excerpts:

    Dressing-room Atmosphere

    Though Pakistan began the T20 World Cup with two consecutive losses in the warm-up matches, they lifted their performances remarkably during the crunch games. Afridi’s energy was one of the reasons for the transformation as he lifted the team on several occasions with his sensible batting and lethal bowling.

    Asked to rewind the dressing room atmosphere, he said: “Before the World Cup we played four one-day international matches against Australia in Dubai and Abu Dhabi. We did well against the World champions and the performance lifted our morale. When we arrived in the UK, we played two warm-up games against India and South Africa. Though we didn’t win, we performed well in both the matches.

    “Besides, all the senior players took up responsibility. We all realized that the World Cup is a global event and we should try our best to win it for the country. We face several problems on the domestic front. So we were focused to win it for the people of the country.

    “The senior players, including Younis Khan, Misbah-ul Haq, Umar Gul and me, decided that we should take up responsibility rather than leaving it to the young guys. We all realised that if senior players perform up to their potential, definitely we have a chance to win. In every team there are three or four match winners. We all were motivated and keen to win the cup.”

    Bowling Success

    Afridi is more renowned for his 37-ball one-day international hundred, but he has transformed himself as a match-winning leg-spinner of late. He bagged 11 wickets at an economy-rate of 5.32 in the Twenty20 World Cup. He admitted he worked hard to remain competitive as a bowler. “I started my career as a bowler. I used to bat at No.9 initially. For the last three years, the captain didn’t use me in the right position as a batsman. I played on almost all position — from No.1 to No. 9. So I decided to focus on my bowling. For the last three years, I totally focused on my bowling. But the people want to see me more as a batsman. Despite some failures in batting, I was focused to do well and talked to myself that I should prove my worth as a batsman as well.”

    Controlled Aggression

    Afridi’s batting didn’t click in the first three matches (he scored 5, 13 and 0) in the T20 World Cup, but he reinvented his batting form when it mattered the most. The innings in the semifinal and final were much different from the usual ‘boom-boom’ Afridi style. He changed his carefree attitude for the betterment of the team and it paid rich dividends. “As senior players we have to take up responsibility. During the team meeting we were firm that we don’t want to miss this golden opportunity. I told myself that there is no need to worry even if I miss some balls as I realized it is important to stay at the crease and play a big innings.”

    Batting Position

    The promotion of Afridi to the top of the batting order worked wonders for Pakistan as Afridi recollected how it all happened. “I told the captain that I am doing nothing down the order as a batsman. Now with Abdul Razzaq back in the side, there is less pressure even if we lose one wicket. So I asked him for a chance to go up in the order. For the last four games, he gave me a chance and I performed well as a batsman.”

    Asked whether his position at the top would be permanent, he replied with a smile: “In Pakistan any thing can change.”

    Captaincy Hopes

    Afridi, now a senior player and touted as the replacement for Younis Khan, is not much bothered about captaincy, though. “Playing for Pakistan is a big honour. Performance is important whether you are a captain or a player.”

    Test Beckons

    Considering the maturity Afridi showed in the T20 World Cup, Afridi would have been an ideal choice for the all-rounder’s spot in the Test squad for the ongoing Sri Lankan tour.

    “I was in the squad for Sri Lanka, but I told the selection committee chairman that I want some rest after the matches in UAE and World Cup. Test fitness is different from one-dayers. I told him that I will definitely play Test cricket.”

    He also voiced his concern over excessive cricket. “Cricket is not sports alone. Now it is more a business. Now the career of a fast bowler is over in 6-7 years.”

    Remembering Woolmer

    The Pakistan team, after their T20 title triumph, dedicated the title to their former coach Bob Woolmer. Afridi also acknowledged the role played by Woolmer in shaping his career. “He was very close to the players. He always allowed me to play my natural game. He used to tell me ‘Go and play your game. Don’t worry about singles and twos. Play your natural game. You are a match winner’. He knew how to handle and talk to players.”

  124. #124 by Mohammed Munir on July 6, 2009 - 6:01 PM

    We Needed to Win a Big One For the Country: AFRIDI

    DUBAI — He said he almost ran for half an hour to take a catch in the World T20 tournament. He can be funny without even trying. He has movie star looks; and the charm to go with it. Maybe when he quits playing cricket he will become a one. But at the moment all Shahid Afridi (right), the hero of Pakistan’s recent T20 World Cup triumph, wants to do is play good cricket; and keep playing for another few years.

    Sahibzada Mohammad Shahid Khan Afridi, like the Pakistan cricket team itself, is an enigma. He can singlehandedly carry a team to victory with his aggressive batting and equally aggressive bowling on a good day; and then plumb the depths on an average day. The Pakistan cricket team too is a lot like that; playing sublime cricket one day followed horrendous stuff.

    We, at the Khaleej Times, were extremely lucky to be able to get Pakistan’s cricketer of the decade for a chat session at our office on Sunday. The batsman with the quickest century in ODIs had an answer for every question thrown at him and was happy to share his thoughts and insights with a smile.

    According to him responsibility was the key to Pakistan’s success in the World T20. “We needed to win a big one for our country, so stay focused. We all were motivated and keen.”

    Boom Boom as Afridi is called, reignited his batting form when it mattered most. He played responsibly and that paid off. His promotion to the top of the batting order was a brilliant tactical move by skipper Younus Khan. Later when asked if he would continue to open the batting, he said with a smile: “In Pakistan anything can happen.”

    The poster boy of Pakistan cricket lauded their former English coach Bob Woolmer, who died during the ODI World Cup in 2007. He always told me to play my natural game, said Afridi. According to Woolmer, the Pathan is a natural match winner.

    When Afridi is at the crease people flock into the stadium. He is a treat to watch although his aggressive style increases his risk of getting out. He holds the record for scoring the fastest century in one-day internationals (off 37 balls), scored in only his second match and his first ODI innings. He also shares with Brian Lara the record for the third-fastest century in ODIs (off 45 balls).

    For various reasons, including a notion that he lacks patience, Afridi has had limited opportunity in Test matches. But he soon plans to prove everyone who thinks he’s not Test material wrong.

    That catch, which he said took nearly 30 minutes was the one he ran from short cover to the boundary line, covering a bit more than 30 meters to get rid of Scot Styris during Pakistan’s match against New Zealand during the Super Eights stage of the T20 World Cup.

  125. #125 by Mohammed Munir on July 6, 2009 - 6:06 PM

    A Pat for Dubai Cricket Stadium from AFRIDI

    DUBAI — After the successful launch of the new cricket stadium (right) in Dubai Sports City a couple of months ago with the Pakistan and Australia series achieving great success, the stadium got a pat from none other than Pakistan’s swashbuckling cricketer Shahid Afridi.

    The man set the stadium ablaze in the inaugural ODI claiming six wickets and scoring a 15-ball 24 runs that ensured Pakistan won comfortably. Afridi was named the Man of the Match for his stupendous performance.

    When asked which was his favourite ground in the world, pat came the reply from the terrific batsman. “I love the Dubai stadium. It is a very good stadium for ODI’s but not for Tests though.”

    Though Pakistan lost the five-ODI series 2-3 to Australia, Afridi had a good outing as an all-rounder. “We played a few games against Australia in Dubai and Abu Dhabi and that helped us a lot. I think we guys did very well and the morale was very high before entering the (T20) World Cup. I am happy that we all played a mature game.”

    The Twenty20 match against Australia in Dubai where Afridi picked up three wickets which eventually helped Pakistan win by seven wickets, came as a big boost for them ahead of the World Twenty20. They later did exceptionally well in England to win the tournament.

    As far as Dubai, which is keen to host bigger tournaments in the future, such support from top players will do a world of good for the stadium.

    ’Quick Singles’ with Shahid Afridi …

    Who is your role model in cricket?

    Imran Khan. I have watched him play since my childhood days and he was the inspiration for me to take up this game.

    Who is your favourite actor?

    Dilip Kumar, Amitabh Bachchan and I also like some movies of Shah Rukh Khan.

    Favourite Actress?

    Julia Roberts.

    What about someone closer home?

    Oh no. That would cause a scandal!

    Favourite cricket ground?

    Dubai (for ODI’s), Eden Gardens (Kolkata), Sydney Cricket Ground and Multan Cricket Ground

    In ODI’s you still have not played 100 balls in an innings?

    Yes, I have played a lot of 43-balls innings. I would love to play 100 balls and I will try to do it in the future.

    How do you balance your time between family and cricket.

    Cricket is like a wife and it keeps going with us everywhere. I have also received a lot of support from my Begum (wife). My kids are young now and since we have a joint family it has not been much of a problem.

    Life after cricket.

    I have not thought about it. I still feel I have three to four years of cricket left in me and beyond that I have not thought anything. I would want to be a good Muslim.

    Did you miss playing IPL? Your team (Deccan Chargers) won?

    They won because I did not play (laughs).

    Did Coach Javed Miandad try to tone you down?

    I can’t become Miandad. I can only polish the Shahid Afridi.

    Keep on playing aggressively and don’t become Dhoni.

    Dhoni is doing well as a captain and he needs to play his natural game as a batsman.

  126. #126 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 6, 2009 - 6:26 PM

    Awas

    Imtiaz Ahmad of Pakistan used to open for Pakistan in test matches, Tasleem Arif used to open in test for Pakistan. Kunderan of India and Inderjitsingh used to open for India, (I am not sure about Kirmani) and there are a few other wicketkeepers who used to open in test matches. I think if we dig out info or ASK STEVENS on cricinfo we might get a list of wicketkeepers who used to open in test matches.

  127. #127 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 6, 2009 - 6:28 PM

    Btw, Kamran Akmal’s brother has recently scored a century in Australia for Pakistan A, I did not see that match or the scorecard on cricinfo but, one of my friends who follows cricket religiously told me. So, very soon you will see him in the line up AND a competitor against Sarfaraz Ahmad.

  128. #128 by khansahab on July 6, 2009 - 6:31 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Umar Akmal has a good record, but he is too inconsistent. He made a double century some time ago and it was rumoured he would be selected for the international team, but then he did not perform for a long time.

    Sarfraz Ahmed has actually done pretty well himself as a batsman in the same match Umar Akmal has scored a century. I think Sarfraz got 2 fifties or something, under pressure.

  129. #129 by khansahab on July 6, 2009 - 6:33 PM

    Afridi said his favourite actress is Julia Roberts. I wonder if he even understands Julia Roberts’ movies or is he just saying it to look “cool”?

    His favourite was apparently Sonali Bendre. I don’t know if it is fact or fiction but it was rumoured both of them were about to get married. This was when Afridi was not religious. He was asked about it and he rubbished the rumour saying something like, “I don’t know who Sonali Bendre is, but some girl called Sonali keeps ringing me and is trying to meet me……..”

  130. #130 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 6, 2009 - 7:13 PM

    Munir

    I don’t like these media guys, they worship and interview “The Rising Sun”
    and it is not that they love Afridi or want to do something good for Afridi. They take advantage by interviewing such celebrities at the right time. Besides, Sohail Galadari is Afridi’s friend so Khaleej Times can not only write anything about him but, publish a special edition weekly magazine on him. They make money from such things. So, I don’t give a shit if Afridi likes Julia Roberts, Dilip Kumar or Imran Khan. I am interested in his game and I want to see him playing well, he can like Dame Edna, Janet Jackson or Mother Teressa, its up to him.

  131. #131 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 6, 2009 - 10:23 PM

    To me, this game is in our bag…………………….. Munir


    “History is on Sri Lanka’s side (no team has scored more than 6 runs in the fourth innings to win a Galle Test and, if achieved, 168 would be the third-highest total in fourth innings here), but the nature of the pitch and the contest is on Pakistan’s”


    Munir
    what I have quoted above is from cricinfo. And, you can see the state of the pitch where a bowler like Younus Khan can take 4 wickets in a test match, imagine Murali would have massacred the Pakistani batting line up with his illegally legitimized doosras.

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