THE AUDACITY OF MEDIOCRITY

“The Audacity of Hope” is an international bestseller book that was written by Barack Hussain Obama in 2006. It explains his rise amongst the ranks in American politics. 20 minutes after he gave his memorable speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention, many experts were already predicting he could be a future President.  The “audacity of hope” is Obama’s phrase to describe “hope” and how it can make an individial or country overcome any odds and become prominent in the world.

There is no hope for the Pakistan Test team as Pakistan have already lost this Test series which they could have won had they been playing with a middle order that could play the new ball (Pakistan lost both Tests because the lower middle order could not handle the new ball). Also, Pakistan would be in a better position if the middle order was not playing politics based on jealousy and regionalism. Pakistan is likely to win this Test but it seems inconsequential because they lost the first 2 Tests in disappointing fashion.

Malik made a potentially match winning century but why did such a gallant effort come from him after Pakistan lost the series? And why has Malik made a habit of performing when Pakistan has already lost and his place is on the line? If Malik and Misbah face problems with the new ball, why are they playing Test cricket and why are they batting at no 5 and no 6 which is when it is very likely a player may face the new ball? No one can answer these questions. In Test cricket, every player in the XI needs to be of a certain calibre and must have a role. Consistency is not good enough in Test cricket unless one is making 50s and 100s consistently. Malik and Misbah make 30s and 40s consistently but that is simply not good enough.

Once Afridi comes in the Test playing XI, Malik will struggle to find a place

Once Afridi comes in the Test playing XI, Malik will struggle to find a place

Such is this audacity of mediocrity, that these two players are very clearly not suited to their batting positions and roles, yet they continue to plague the team. One wonders what would happen if Shahid Afridi had been in the Test squad? What would the team composition have been in the 1st Test? Manzoor would have been dropped and Malik would have opened with Butt. Afridi would have played at no 6. However, there are serious problems there as Malik refused to open in the 2nd Test, which is why the position went to Fawad Alam. Many people do not consider Afridi to be a Test player but the fact is that if Afridi is in the squad, Malik would have to open, or he would have to sit out. Such is the audacity of talent, commitment and hope. Afridi exudes hope whereas Malik does not, despite question marks over Afridi’s Test calibre.

Whoever thinks any Test team can survive on the basis of T2o reputation is living in fools’ paradise. What people don’t realise is that 4 day cricket at domestic level develops skills in players that should in theory, show in ODI’s and Tests. We have spoken about this before but Malik averages 29.54 in first class cricket which is lower than any recognised batsman in the Pakistan squad. If the Pakistan Test team is going to deteriorate, then the results will show in ODI’s, too. Test cricket is the format where a player develops mental strength and that extra “push” that is needed to perform flawlessly and consistently in ALL formats. It is because Younis Khan is a class player at Test level that he was able to be amongst Pakistan’s best batsmen in the T20 Cup despite not being an expert T20 player at domestic level.

Now the worry for Pakistan is that in 2 years, Younis and Yousuf are bound to retire. Younis has already admitted he is 34, and Yousuf’s official age is 34, too. What will happen to this team when there is no Younis and Yousuf? Pakistan is dangerously heading towards that position where it will be a pathetic Test team. The middle order is the team’s backbone, and without a backbone a creature becomes slimy, gooey and spineless- a bit like Shoaib Malik. So the Pakistan Test team will become Shoaib Malik in 2 years if Malik and Misbah are not removed asap.

What we say about Malik and Misbah is said with a lot of passion, good intentions, good judgement, statistics,

Malik and Misbah- the audacity of mediocrity

Malik and Misbah- the audacity of mediocrity

 expertise, hindsight, foresight, common sense etc. Now it is upto fans and the PCB to take notice of this and remove this abomination of mediocrity from the Test team. Why does it matter so much what we say? Because we say a lot about “what will happen” in Pakistan and the Pakistani team- we discuss players, strategies, politics etc and our predictions are almost always right. So dissidents should shut up, with all due respect, and think about the future of cricket and abandon emotions of regionalism, jealousy and ego. Malik has been playing Test cricket for 8 years and he has not developed a role yet. He is not good as opener, he is not good as a middle order batsman, he is pathetic as a bowler, and worst of all, he can’t play the new ball. And he was made captain of the team and even now people say he should not be dropped because he is the former captain and he should not be disrespected.

Such is the audacity of mediocrity.

Javed A Khan wrote an insightful thread recently, titled, “Leaders, Team Players and Nothing Players”. People can ask Javed A Khan, Awas, or myself, how can Pakistan be rescued because there are not many leaders or team players? Our answer would be simple- drop the nothing players, for it is they who are coming in the way of producing good leaders and team players.

Such is the audacity of hope.

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  1. #1 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 22, 2009 - 8:24 PM

    There is HOPE, there is MEDIOCRITY but, there is still AUDACITY and CHEEKINESS among the group that ganged up to play regional politics to show that they are important. Do we need to spell the names here?

    khansahab

    Whether Afridi comes into play or Abdul Razzaq comes in the team, Malik will NOT go, he is there to stay after this century. Because, even before this century no one was talking about dropping him or Misbah and with this 100 and 60 odd no one will even think about dropping them.

    Such is the mediocrity of the selection board and the PCB administration that they don’t know the meaning of excellence because they have been living like a frog in a dry well, croaking in groups when it rains and that too, once in a while during the summer.

  2. #2 by Awas on July 22, 2009 - 8:41 PM

    “audacity of hope” hmmm…

    Khansahab, a good thoughtful write up.

    After Younus & Yousuf go they got to look at the future and groom a future captain. A youngster like Fawad Alam under the tutelage of Afridi (after Younus) could be the right way to go about it. I cannot see another viable option in the current team, although there may well be some budding future stars not yet seen.

    Occasional performers but mediocres like Malik, Misbah and Akmal should be shown the door along with Inti. Get a foreign coach.

    Khansahab, quite rightly said that unlike Malik Afridi exudes hope” with his charisma and performances.

  3. #3 by irrational on July 22, 2009 - 9:16 PM

    all you fellow khans…no matter how much you try an suck afridi’s ..hes bound to be an utter failure…your bias against the punjabiplayers clearly shows..right since the days of pakspin…afridi was is and will always be a third class player..one t20 performance wont make the summer..cant wait for afridi to be made the captain though will bring you all down on from the seventh heaven….guess javed suffers from premature ejaculation just at the mere mention of afridi..waah kya pyaar hai..

  4. #4 by khansahab on July 22, 2009 - 9:47 PM

    “Irrational” from Mumbai:

    (Someone called Irrational from India left a very abusive comment on the blog and insulted one of the administrators saying that we have an agenda against Punjab, so my response is directed to this person only and Varun et all should not take it emotionally)

    Are you sucking something of someone who is too scared to come on here and express himself? Stop sucking, be a man and don’t hide behind a mask. Because we have a name for people who do that- Sissy Malik 🙂

    And why do you have a problem with Afridi? Because he likes to murder your bowlers? Pathans kick Indian asses and they also kick Paindoo asses. I guess that’s why they like to hide behind a mask and can’t identify themselves 🙂

  5. #5 by khansahab on July 22, 2009 - 9:54 PM

    I don’t know how dumb some people of one ethnicity can be. I mean, Yousuf, Razzaq, Aamer etc, are all Punjabis but they get our sincere support.

    Why are some Punjabis hellbent on proving their paindooness? Who invented the word “paindoo” and why is it that no other ethnicity has that kind of word to describe its own people?

    Is there something unique with paindoos? I didn’t know there were village idiots in India too, now I know. Thanks Irrational, you just made me think a little less of India.

  6. #6 by Awas on July 22, 2009 - 10:07 PM

    khansahab

    You are not very clear what is he “sucking something”…surly not his thumb as he cant be still in his cradle, so what is it?

  7. #7 by khansahab on July 22, 2009 - 10:52 PM

    Awas

    His mind is of a 10 year old despite his age of 43 so he must be sucking his thumb.

  8. #8 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 2:23 AM

    The result of my premature ejaculation is – “irrational” wah kya na jayaz nutfa nikla, jaisi maa vaisa beta. I must admit that it was a mistake laikin tumharee maa hee itni “seskey” thi kay yae ghalati tou koi bhee kerta!

    Laikin meray irrational puttar tum aaj taang utha ker fire hydrant per moot tou rehay ho without realizing kay tumharay peechay ek nahee 4 pathan kharay hain jinka fire hydrant fawwara uranay taiyaar hai.

    Jao ja ker naher walay pull kay neechay ja ker apni bais aur prejudice dho lo.

    Aur ayenda May-lay may nahee jana warna apni maa ki terha gumm jao gay tou sirf ilaaqa ghair may hee milo gay aur tumhara pesha, pathanaon ka shaoq poora keray ga. Do you need a flying kiss like the one Kallis got?

    Btw, that 3rd class player screwed the hell outta you guys in Kanpur didn’t he? Oh, the reason I am telling you is, ‘coz your IP address is from Mumbai, Reliance Communication. U can suck the Ambanis and be happy. 😉

  9. #9 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 2:46 AM

    khansahab

    very soon the word Paindoo will be banned, just like the use of the word Paki is considered as a racial comment and it is illegal to use, the word Paindoo will also become a racial hate comment only to describe uncivilized, uneducated and uncouth Punjabis.

    And, for doing this, only they are to be blamed because they can call anyone a Paindoo butt, when someone calls them a Paindoo there is so much Pain in their DOO – DOO that they cry out in agony as if koi inka balatkaar ker reha hai.

  10. #10 by Mohammed Munir on July 23, 2009 - 6:09 AM

    A Sri Lankan fans has to say this …

    Bimal: “Sri Lanka paying dearly for all the selection blunders throughout the series. We got away in the previous two games as Paks gifted two match winning positions, and this should wake them up. The make shift wicket keeper was never a good idea, and now we have lost dilshan’s batting and Sanga is so off colour behind the stumps. He might struggle with his batting too.This is an excellent eye opener for future tours….”

    How true 😦

  11. #11 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 6:30 AM

    Although Herath took 5 wickets so far in this innings and gave away 144 runs so far. Actually Umar Gul destroyed his average. One Sri Lankan supporter is saying “If Gul is able to hit such huge SIXES, this might be an indication as to the behaviour of pitch which has gradually become a batting track. If this is the case, we still can have a close contest in 4th innings.”

    I think he is day dreaming. Scoring 475 plus in the 4th innings is a dream. After two or three decades, the only team who scored 400 plus in the 4th innings is Australia in the recently concluded test match at Lords and became the 3rd country in the world after West Indies and India.

  12. #12 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 6:38 AM

    It is lunch now and Younus Khan must declare, because there is no point in continuing with Aamir and Ajmal and they may not be able to add a significant contribution to the total hence, it would be a waste of time. Asking Sri Lanka to score 477 to win is impossible, but they can bat slowly and fight for a draw. Still, in my opinion there will be a result and Pakistan will win this match comfortably.

    The irony is Malik, Misbah and Akmal will stay in the team for the next series too. Besides, they will also be playing in the ODI and T20 as well.

  13. #13 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 7:03 AM

    Salman Butt would be showing his Butt to Sri Lanka, it means a good bye. He is not in the squad for ODI, Butt Riddance. Instead, Imran Nazir, Nasir Jamshed has been called as replacements. Also, younger brother Umar Akmal’s sword is dangling over Big Brother Kamran Akmal, as he too is now in the squad. I wonder who they will drop to get Rana Nayee in the playing XI? Because, Umar Gul and Mohammad Aamir are bowling well and you cannot replace them with Rana and you cannot replace Ajmal either. So, the question is, will Fawad Alam again become the usual escape goat?

    Here is the Champions Trophy probables in which Mohammad Asaf got a free pass along with Veena Malak and Miss Bah. Take a look at the probables. I wonder why they even bother to include players like Abdul Hafeez and Abdul Rahman Sialkoti?

    Pakistan ODI squad: Younis Khan (capt), Imran Nazir, Nasir Jamshed, Mohammad Yousuf, Misbah-ul-Haq, Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal (wk), Shahid Afridi, Umar Gul, Saeed Ajmal, Mohammad Aamer, Rana Naved-ul-Hasan, Abdul Razzaq, Umar Akmal, Fawad Alam, Rao Iftikhar Anjum.

    Pakistan Champions Trophy probables: Younis Khan (capt), Imran Nazir, Nasir Jamshed, Mohammad Yousuf, Misbah-ul-Haq, Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal (wk), Shahid Afridi, Umar Gul, Saeed Ajmal, Mohammad Aamer, Rana Naved-ul-Hasan, Abdul Razzaq, Umar Akmal, Fawad Alam, Rao Iftikhar Anjum, Salman Butt, Khalid Latif, Azhar Ali, Umar Amin, Sheharyar Ghani, Yasir Arafat, Sarfraz Ahmed, Mohammad Asif, Mohammad Talha, Sohail Tanvir, Wahab Riaz, Abdul Rehman, Mohammad Hafeez.

  14. #14 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 7:13 AM

    There are 16 players in the ODI and T20 squad. IMO, one is definitely an excess baggage and that is Rao Ifti.

    So, from the given squad, imo the team should be:

    1. Fawad Alam
    2. Imran Nazir
    3. Younus Khan
    4. Mohammad Yousuf
    5. Misbah
    6. Afridi
    7. Malik
    8. Akmal
    9. Ajmal
    10. Gul
    11. Aamir

    What about Abdul Razzaq? And, where will they fit in Rana Nayee?

    Most likely they will drop Fawad Alam and play with Rana Nayee or Abdul Razzaq. And, they will make Kamran Akmal open the innings with Imran Nazir or Nasir Jamshed (depending who sucks Inti Alam’s stinking 3all5)

  15. #15 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 7:20 AM

    NO DECLARATION AT LUNCH?

    I cannot believe this silly captaincy from Younus Khan. May be they will add 10 more runs or maximum 20 but, is it worth at this stage? They will be wasting some precious time. There could be bad light and a few overs today and a few overs tomorrow could be curtailed, shouldn’t YK consider this as a possibility?

  16. #16 by Mohammed Munir on July 23, 2009 - 7:25 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Read this for answer to your comment no. 15 (these are comments of a Pakistani fan from another site):

    Talha: “I think Younis is just trying to play on the minds of the Sri Lankans by bringing them back on the field in the heat & then later they’ll hav to pad up quickly to face the music. Not a bad ploy i would say!”

    😆

  17. #17 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 7:26 AM

    Now, he declared at 425 for 9 a lead of 491 and guess what and who declared? Itekhab Alam came out and asked Aamir and Ajmal to come back. Usually it is the captain who declares and not the coach, WTF is this?

  18. #18 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 7:28 AM

    Munir, I have read that comment before you copy pasted it here but, you also read my comment number 17. What difference does it make in 5 minutes or 2 overs or 15 runs?

    Ps.
    OK, me go back to sleep now, its 3:30 a.m. and you can enjoy some irrational comments by scrolling above.

  19. #19 by Mohammed Munir on July 23, 2009 - 7:34 AM

    Pakistan Declared, Sri Lanka have to get 492 …

    I think what this guy Talha said above was correct as Pakistan played only 3 overs after Lunch and scored 15 more runs before they declared, but the idea was to bring Sri Lankans out again and then declare and force them to hurry rather relax.

    Good thinking there by Younis Khan, and good analysis by Talha too 😉

    Now Pakistan have to put some real hard work to ‘loose’ it from here 😛

  20. #20 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 9:27 AM

    Well, I don’t agree with that idea of Pakistan coming back to bat after lunch only to play 3 – 4 overs, in the process Sri Lanka got a bonus of extra 20 minutes to pad up and come back again, which makes them more relax because the less time they get, the better it is for them. Whereas, Pakistan lost that time which might prove crucial in the end.

    That view of Talha appears good only at foresight but, at hindsight you’ll see what was better. Sr Lanka easily played the second session without losing a wicket and adding valuable 77 runs before tea. Typical defensive captaincy by Younus Khan.

    I think as the ball will get older Kaneria and Ajmal might be able to spin it better. Sri Lanka cannot go aggressive, they won’t be hitting sixes like Umar Gul did or even Aamir. Because, that way the chances are they might lose wickets, so they won’t take any chance. Therefore, it is better if Younus Khan sets an attacking field and Kaneria always bowls better in the 4th innings when there are plenty of runs to score and he has an attacking field.

  21. #21 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 9:57 AM

    Some of us have had a problem understanding the current global recession. I thought it might be worthwhile explaining it in simple terms:

    Phajja is the proprietor of a Siri-Paya and Nihari Shop in Lahore. Sales are low and, in order to increase them, he comes up with a plan to allow his customers to eat now and pay later. He keeps track of the meals consumed on a ledger.

    Word gets around and as a result increasing numbers of customers flock to Phajja’s shop. Phajja’s suppliers are delighted and are very willing to sell more and more raw materials for the meals he prepares. Phajja shows them his ledger of receivables and they extend him credit.

    A young and dynamic customer service consultant at the local bank recognizes these customer debts as valuable future assets and gives Phajja a credit line and then increases Phajja’s borrowing limit.

    Taking advantage of his customers’ freedom from immediate payment constraints, Phajja jacks up the prices of his Nihari and Siri-Paye. Customers don’t mind as they are not required to pay on the spot. Sales volume increases massively; Banks and suppliers lend more; Phajja opens more outlets. He sees no reason for undue concern since he has the debts of the customers as collateral.

    At the bank’s corporate headquarters, expert bankers recognize Phajja’s customer loans as assets and transform these customer assets into BONDS. These negotiable instruments are given exotic names such as SIRIBOND, PAYABOND, MAGHAZBOND AND BONGBOND.

    These securities are then listed on the Stock Exchange and traded on markets worldwide. No one really understands what the names mean and how the securities are guaranteed but, nevertheless, as their prices continuously climb, the securities become top-selling items.

    One day, although the prices are still climbing, a credit risk manager of the bank decides that the time has come to demand payment of one of the debts incurred by Phajja. Phajja in turn asks his clients to pay up. One by one they refuse; the clients cannot pay back the debts. Phajja refuses to serve them anymore. The clients stop coming.

    Phajja is really screwed now. He cannot fulfill his loan obligations and therefore claims bankruptcy. All Bonds drop in price by between 80 to 95%.

    The suppliers of Phajja, having granted generous payment due dates and having invested in the securities are faced with similar problems. The meat supplier defaults on payment to the sheep and cattle supplier and claims bankruptcy. The atta supplier is taken over by a competitor; Phajja lays off the cook and staff. Bankruptcies soar, unemployment mushrooms.

    The bank that lent the money in the first place is set to collapse. It is saved by the Government following dramatic round-the-clock consultations by leaders from the governing political parties with Phajja commuting back and forth in his Executive jet and Mercedes 500SEL, brokering the deal.

    The funds required to save the economic collapse are obtained by a tax levied on the citizens, most of whom do not eat Nihari or Siri-paye.

    UNDERSTOOD?

  22. #22 by Mohammed Munir on July 23, 2009 - 10:01 AM

    As expected “Danny Buoy” has given us the break through, and first wicket fell at 83, which means that Fawad Alam and Khurram Manzoor’s opening partnership of 85 runs remains the highest in the series.

  23. #23 by Mohammed Munir on July 23, 2009 - 10:06 AM

    LOL @ Phajja’s Golobal Recession … nice one.

    Hope you are having your usual ice-cream and corn-flakes dish in the middle of the night 😉

  24. #24 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 10:28 AM

    Yeah, I couldn’t get any sleep so I watched a movie and was munching Lays chilli and sea salt crisps. It is 6:30 a.m. now almost time for breakfast. I know about the opening partnership and was thinking about the same at tea time. No matter what Pakistani selectors will soon forget this and try to keep out Khurram Manzoor despite his 93. As regards Fawad Alam’s 168 it would be hard for them to ignore him.

    Munir you must try to persuade that “Mamay tay Chachay Di Macchi” wala guy in Sharjah to start this, “eat now pay later” business and you can create Macchi Bonds in your bank.

  25. #25 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 10:34 AM

    Younus Khan gave Fawad Alam that one and only over to bowl in the recently concluded T20 WC that too at a very wrong time and the poor guy got thrashed for 15 runs. I don’t understand why he is not giving him a chance to bowl in the test match? Especially in this match where Pakistan is in a comfortable position and seeing a left arm slow spinner like Herath bowling well, he could have rather he should have given Fawad Alam a chance to bowl. This is why I say, I don’t understand Younus Khan’s captaincy and idiosyncrasies.

  26. #26 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 10:59 AM

    Sangakara and Paranavitana have put on a very decent partnership and SL are 139/1 now with 15 overs left in the days play today. Although Gul was not effective with the new ball and gave away too many runs, it wouldn’t be any harm in trying him now as the ball is a bit old and Gul may be able to swing it. But, Younus is persisting with Malik (and not bothered about Fawad Alam) so he will end up paying a price.

  27. #27 by Mohammed Munir on July 23, 2009 - 10:59 AM

    Oh my god … what was I missing. Just read some ‘irrational’ comments.

    I was LOL + LMAO on reading Javed’s comment no. 8, which was a rational reply for the ‘irrational’ guy.

    Javed at his ‘infuriated’ best !!

    Irrational … You have unnecessarily provoked Javed and invited him to go and “Balatkaar” you by opening your legs wide-apart, and he just obliged 😉

  28. #28 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 11:01 AM

    LOL my bad, just as I had commented about YK persisting with Malik, that lucky bastard got a wicket 😀

    Ps

    And Fawad Alam took that sharp catch to dismiss Paranavitana

  29. #29 by Awas on July 23, 2009 - 11:06 AM

    A sharp catch by Fawad Alam…good breakthrough.

  30. #30 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 11:09 AM

    Good Moaning Awas! How do you does? 😉 The reply is duzzing duzzing. 😀

    Since you are here, I can go and have my breakfast with a paratha and Maghazbond, in the meantime enjoy the comments, I am sure you want a BongBond for lunch?

  31. #31 by Awas on July 23, 2009 - 12:18 PM

    BongBond???

    I never had that b4.

    For me its just a boring cold sandwich.

  32. #32 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 2:53 PM

    LOL Awas, perhaps you have NOT read the comment about the current global recession and Phajja’s success, have you? If you read that you will know what it is.

    Secondly, Bong Ki Boti is calf muscle or Jarret de Beouf which is used especially for Nihari, hence it is named as BongBond to rhyme with NihariBond, SiriBond, PayaBond and MaghazBond, it is not a cold sandwich. 😀

    So Kaneria got 7 wickets so far, he might end up with 10. Sangakara is the key for SL but, how much can he score and how long can he play? Dilshan is doubtful, if he comes in to bat, then Aamir and Gul must greet him with a few bouncers to welcome him. The whole day is ahead of the Pakistanis and they must bowl sensibly to win this match.

  33. #33 by khansahab on July 23, 2009 - 3:21 PM

    Haha what a response from Javed A Khan to irrational lol.

    Aaj Irrational ka balatkaar ho gaya 🙂 Bachao! Bachao!

    A paindoo is a paindoo, whether from Pakistan or India.

  34. #34 by khansahab on July 23, 2009 - 5:14 PM

    Kaneria was warned for swearing against a Lankan batsman. Kaneria is an aggressive legspinner and usually performs when his confidence is high and he is swearing. I think he should be unfazed with this warning and he should continue doing what he did in SL’s first innings.

    According to Aaqib Javed, Kaneria is now taking wickets because Ajmal is bowling from the other end and Kaneria is not having to bowl elaborate spells. I don’t think that is the reason, or it may only be a partial reason. In my view this is happening because Younis is friends with Kaneria and Kaneria feels better playing under Younis. Also, Akmal is in better form this time and he is not dropping catches that frequently.

  35. #35 by Mohammed Munir on July 23, 2009 - 6:11 PM

    Guys,

    Any news on chances of rain tomorrow ?

    I heard that there is a 50% chance of raining for the last day of the Test and the match may draw 😦

    Ghareebon Nain Rozay Rakhay, Aur Din Lambay Hogai.

  36. #36 by irrational on July 23, 2009 - 7:07 PM

    LOLZ….truth hurts dosent it?
    ghuma phira ke wohi kanpur yaad dilate ho..
    baki wakt woh unpad gawar pathan kya marva raha tha kya…?

    at least malik contributed to many wins..but then thats not something extrodinary ..we punjus know how to prove ourselves…and especially adept at fking the daylights of pathans — my pak counterparts!!

    as for ambani..sala motu ambani would also have 10 such kanpurs to his credit if given the numerous chances this zahil gawar got..

    and i know how much your pathans fckeed the indians in each and every world cup lol..

    and as for javed..before crying for all khans pls have a dna test(your surely adopted)….be sure have a gutter ki paidaish…cuz i wont be stooping to your level and insulting a lady…thats not how we punju’s are brought up…

    and plz use a cork to plug the gap..we all are aware the way you swing…the gaping hole leaves quite a stink..

  37. #37 by khansahab on July 23, 2009 - 7:12 PM

    Omer

    Very good thoughts there. My slight worry is that a few months before Asif was involved in the doping scandal, his performance had started deteriorating. I hope he can back into rhythm. It won’t be easy- it never is for a fast bowler. I agree an attack consisting of Asif, Aamer, Gul, Afridi and Kaneria can provide quick wickets. I wonder if they will have a place to slot Ajmal too. Perhaps they should because he has done reasonably well. By getting rid of Malik and Misbah they are definitely providing a place for Afridi, Kaneria and Ajmal to be the spinners.

    Fawad/Afridi
    Opener 2
    Younis
    Yousuf
    Fawad/Afridi
    Asim Kamal type batsman
    Akmal
    Gul
    Aamer
    Asif
    Kaneria/Ajmal

    They will probably have to gamble between Kaneria and Ajmal.

  38. #38 by khansahab on July 23, 2009 - 7:35 PM

    Omer

    At the moment they only have 3 choices- Afridi, Ajmal and Kaneria. They should play a combination of two, but you are right that it is not too bad playing all of them and dropping one pacer if the pitch is assisting spin. With Afridi the automatic selection I would certainly opt for Kaneria over Ajmal, only because, as you correctly stated, Kaneria attacks. I don’t care about leaking runs in Tests that much- the emphasis should totally be on wickets. If a bowler can give 100 runs and take 4 wickets in an innings, that is OK in Tests. I think Kaneria has suffered a lot because of many different factors, some of which include, totally flat pitches that don’t even break up and provide cracks for him, Akmal dropping catches, Malik-like uninspiring captaincy, long and uninterrupted spells etc. However at the same time a good bowler is someone who performs in any given circumstances. Kaneria did suffer a dip in form.

    I will use your own argument to explain why Malik should not be in the line up. In 8 years of Test cricket he has not become dependable in any role- opener, middle order batsman or bowler. Again, this century was made in the backdrop of possible exclusion from future Tests and he started attacking the new ball right from the outset because he finds it difficult to play it cautiously. That is why I have said he is a T20 player only- you saw that he started attacking the new ball and it helped his confidence immensely. The only problem is that, you can’t always play T20 cricket in Test cricket. 9 times out of 10, you will get out cheaply anyway.

    What worries me more than anything else is that they need to plan ahead because the team is not doing great at the moment and after 2 years it will fall considerably because of Yousuf and Younis’s exit. After Inzamam left, they had Younis and Yousuf. After Younis and Yousuf leave, who do they have? No one. I have already explained in the thread that Pakistan team will become a gooey creature with no backbone, like Shoaib Malik, once these 2 batsmen leave. Misbah will probably be retiring at the same time if not before. They need to get someone really talented and groom him.

    They like to talk endlessly about not having good openers and they have tried several combinations. Openers are very important, agreed, but your middle order is also important. They need to start devising plans from now on. When I was having an argument with someone on a different blog, this is exactly what I was saying, that ONLY and only by dropping Malik and/or Misbah and trying someone new in their position, can we really know whether someone can become another Inzamam. Unless we drop them, how will we know whether we have better calibre? They have to be dropped NOW, not tomorrow, not after a few months, not after 2 years.

  39. #39 by khansahab on July 23, 2009 - 8:06 PM

    Omer

    Yes, he will face problems on bouncy pitches against the likes of Steyn etc.

    I was thinking in order to avoid this difficult question of who the other opener should be, Pakistan should try Afridi and Fawad. It’s a right/left hand combination and one more thing is that if Afridi gets out cheaply, Younis will come at the crease and he seems to share a decent rapport with Fawad.

    I think in T20 or ODI’s they can experiment with Akmal and Afridi/Akmal and Fawad.

    This is an excellent way to groom your future middle order players too. While Afridi and Fawad can handle the opening, they can try someone with good temperament who is good at rotating the strike and has good technique against short balls in the middle order.

    Ahmed Shahzad might be OK, but to be honest it seems Pakistan just cannot produce a good opener until 2 things happen:

    1) Pitches assist new ball bowlers at domestic level
    2) As a result of the above, or as a result of any means, good new ball bowlers play first class cricket

    Saeed Anwar was a middle order batsman before he used to open. Saeed Anwar has been Pakistan’s best opener for decades (I think the only other great opener they had was Hanif Mohammad). Aamer Sohail was good, but he was not great. Plus I always felt having Anwar at the other end made him appear better. They should really ask Aamer Sohail what he did and how he used to play.

    Investing in openers has been a disaster. Since Anwar left Pakistan must have tried at least 10 openers. Every one of them failed.

    To be very honest with you, I think Afridi and Fawad opening will be the best combination possible. Pakistan should stop looking for specialist openers- they are just rubbish at international level. What they now need are good new ball bowlers and good middle order batsmen who can take Younis and Yousuf’s places when they leave.

  40. #40 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 23, 2009 - 8:07 PM

    Puttar irrational, “you don’t know the truth because you cannot handle the truth.” When asked to distinguish the truth between belief and fact, George Bernard Shaw said: “you being the son of your father is a belief but, you being the son of your mother is a fact.” And, no one insulted the lady, in fact I have praised the lady but, I am surprised at this end result or the product that came out so prematurely and, “irrationally ugly” like a slum dog. 😀

    If you had remained decent – which you can’t because of your nature – I would have responded decently.

    On this blog we don’t spread jingoism and regionalism but, sometimes people like you come and spread their legs, so we had to plug the gap with something you call it a cork. But, don’t be scared I used a rubber but no jelly, so your screams are justifiable. 😉

    Like khansahab mentioned earlier, Mohammad Yousuf, Abdul Razzaq, Mohammad Aamir are also punjabis and we have praised their efforts.
    Younus Khan is a pathan but, when he screws up we criticize the hell outta him. So, why should we spare the goat, the lamb and, the sheep called Malik Misbah and Akmal? Especially when the whole world can see they are playing dirty politics. That is in their nature and they can’t help it.

    Also for your information Imran Khan Niazi is not a pure Pushto speaking pathan, his ancestors settled in Mianwali Punjab, so technically he is a Punjabi. But it doesn’t matter, he gets the praise and the flak, no one supports him blindly, he gets the due where he deserves. If people of Pakistan were like Indians they would have made Imran’s statues and worshiped him like a God. He would have become the President or Prime Minister of Pakistan long ago. But, we don’t spare him when he says BS.

    As regards Kanpur massacre, before I say anything I must say LOL first. When he was screwing and massacring the Indian bowling, an Indian girl scribbled a poster and raised it, “Afridi, please spare us, Dosti ki Khaatir. ” Afridi responded, mai dosti hee may maar reha hoon. Even the policeman sitting in the stadium watching it live was stuffing his own fingers in his nose, admitting that this is how we are getting it from him, from every angle, every hole.

    If you think 37/100 was a fluke, then you may name any other player in the world who scored a 100 that fast, twice. Once in Kenya 37/100 and people said its a fluke so he did another one at Kanpur 45/100 which was better than the first one. Because that will be remembered like the famous SIX by Javed Miandad which left scars on the Indian cricket players psyche for over 18 years. And, this will haunt them forever.

    Remember Indian team lost so many times that they stopped playing at Sharjah because that SIX was haunting them all the time. And using that as a tool to exploit betting, the Indian betting mafia was playing more than the Indian team playing cricket. They used some Hiramandi background Punjus like Wasim Akram, Salim Malik, Ejaz Ahmad etc., and from your side, Azharuddin Ajay Jadeja etc. were exposed. The BCCI could not pin point the Indian betting mafia because they are scared to death and made excuses that the umpiring was biased hence they cannot play in Sharjah. Whereas, the truth is the umpires were all internationals and were fair. So, it was a lame excuse.

    Yes, Pakistan lost to India in the world cup round matches and do you know why? “Bakaoz,” the Indians would have stopped coming to any international venue to play against Pakistan, so it was a deliberate ruse, a lolly pop to lure them and then kick their a$$. Remember, the final of this recently concluded T20 WC? The Indian public in the UK anticipated their team to be in the final, but were so disappointed that they sold their tickets to the Pakistanis. If they lose like that there won’t be any Indian crowd internationally. Hence, Pakistan used others to fck them on their behalf

    So, the stink that you are getting is from the slums of Mumbai and from the backyard of Dhoni & Co. Keep smelling the stench and keep on enjoying it till the next world cup and keep lycking Ambani’s million dollar a$$.

  41. #41 by khansahab on July 23, 2009 - 8:43 PM

    Omer

    Yes, he is talented.

    Do you remember what kind of euphoria we saw when Butt made his debut? He had perfect timing, placement, he had aggression and he was murdering India the way Shahzad is murdering them in your video. But what became of Butt?

    A complete batsman is someone like Gambhir, or Tendulkar, or Younis, who has the ability to bat in any circumstance, play any shot etc. You might mean something different by saying Shahzad is “complete”, but I don’t think we have seen enough of him to judge whether he is complete. I know he played some nice shots and he seemed to be playing with a lot of confidence.

    I don’t think we should be going gaga over his stroke-making ability. We have seen that countless times from openers, but they often tend to fail. On the other hand Fawad is not a strokemaker, but he has shown the most promise out of all of them.

  42. #42 by khansahab on July 23, 2009 - 9:05 PM

    Omer

    I am in your agree and further or in the alternative, I am agree with you.

    I didn’t mean to put Gambhir and Tendulkar in the same bracket. It is just that when it comes to “completeness” the way Gambhir has evolved rapidly makes him seem like complete. He can play any format. He can score at a strike rate of 150, but in Tests, also of 40-50. He can not score for 3-4 overs and then all of a sudden score 20 in 2 overs. That is the kind of player he is, so mentally strong that he keeps overcoming any challenge that is thrown at him. This guy averages 54 in Tests, 38 in ODI’s and 30 in T20- amazing. And by the looks of it these averages will only go up. He has only been playing international cricket for how long? 5 years or so? If he keeps improving over time like Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman, God knows what he is capable of.

    Tendulkar’s average was nowhere near 54 when he had been playing Test cricket for 5 years. I know bowling has become easier to handle these days, but at the same time opening is very difficult in Test cricket and one still has to face and new ball and stand up to the Johnsons and the Steyns. So whether he has limited talent or whatever, he is an exceptional player. I am not saying this to disagree with you in any way, just expressing my admiration for him. I think he is underrated.

    I agree about Shahzad. PCB can pick him up and try him out.

  43. #43 by khansahab on July 23, 2009 - 10:30 PM

    Shahid Afridi was on Nadia Khan Show last week. In that show he was asked how he felt about Zardari and Yousuf Raza Gillani inviting the cricketers over. He thanked the leaders but said that he felt Zardari should have spent more time with the players. He said that Zardari just gave them some gifts and then left.

    He then gave an example of Musharraf and he was smiling fondly as he was talking about Musharraf. He said that Musharraf always gelled with the players and joked with them/encouraged them, and Musharraf gave him (Afridi) special treatment and used to show a lot of confidence in him.

  44. #44 by khansahab on July 23, 2009 - 11:26 PM

    LOL Afridi is saying exactly what I have been saying:

    “Guys like Misbah and Malik need a rest. New batsmen should be played in their position. That is the only way you can groom a player to become a future batsman. It will be very good for the team”.

  45. #45 by Varun Suri on July 24, 2009 - 1:15 AM

    If there’s someone who is really pissed off with Murali then it has got to be Bishen Singh Bedi. Check out his latest comment:-

    The other man in a woman’s life is the doosra.

    (Bishan Bedi puts a domestic spin on his definition of the offspinner’s other one
    Jul 22, 2009)

  46. #46 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 24, 2009 - 2:45 AM

    LOL @ Bedi (Mash), some people call Bhishen Singh Bedi as an eccentric and a big mouth but, I like his comments especially when it comes to playing Murali, he creates some real time melodies and pisses off Muttaiah and his Sri Lankan fans.

    In Urdu, Muttu and Muttaiah means the one who piss everywhere, especially toddlers – another expression in Urdu is “Nain Muttna” means cry baby. Varun are you learning some new Urdu words and expressions from me? 😉

    Anyways,Varun this is a good one. I am hearing this for the first time and it made me laugh. Although I could have given a befitting reply to this kind a retort by asking, is Murali the doosra in his life? Never mind, but its a good one.

    His other one about his doosra, is also very funny when he responded to a journalist, what is your opinion about Murali’s Doosra, Bedi said, “Uska pehla hee sahee nahee hai tou doosra kahan say sahee hoga?” And, he said a few more like, even if he (Murali) takes 1000 wickets, in his (Bedi’s) books it will only be 1000 run outs. He called him a “Javelin Thrower.”

    And, in one of the threads on Malinga Salinga, I wrote, if they (Malinga and Murali) are handicapped then they should play in a handicapped team along with other handicaps just like there is an Olympics for handicapped people.

    Tell me whats wrong with this irrational puttar? He isn’t like you or Pawan, but again India is a huge country! 😀

  47. #47 by khansahab on July 24, 2009 - 9:28 AM

    BREAKING NEWS

    Excerpts from Afridi’s interview with Jang:

    “It will be better if Younis remains T20 captain, but if he does not want to play, I am ready to become captain”

    “I have captained Karachi and Habib Bank Ltd so I can captain Pakistan team as well”

    “Everyone in life needs a promotion so I am ready for this role”.

  48. #48 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 24, 2009 - 9:54 AM

    Seems like Pakistan’s hopes to win the 3rd test match to salvage some pride are bleak now. Sangakara along with Samaraweera and now Angelo Mathews have stood firmly and denying Pakistan from winning the match. It seems like they are playing for a draw but, with that kinda batting 347/4 and 36 overs remaining only 145 to win, they can scare the hell outta Pakistan.

    With time the test cricket has changed so much that players who are determined to achieve even the impossible can translate their dreams into reality. Three decades ago only two teams have scored more than 400 runs in the 4th innings and they were West Indies and India. Last week Australia was the third country to score more than 400 and now it is Sri Lanka’s turn, they will definitely score more than 400 and if they win they will create history by scoring the highest number of runs ever to score in the 4th innings.

  49. #49 by khansahab on July 24, 2009 - 10:13 AM

    It seems the Test is heading for a draw. After 15 overs the umpires will ask the question whether both captains want to draw the match. Younis should take it if no wickets fall until then.

    If that happens, Malik’s century will have no impact whatsoever except improve his average to 38 or whatever. Even if Pakistan were to win this match his century would have limited impact, as they have lost the series. What a pity that the cricket board always likes to reward a player who tends to perform in dead rubber matches, and they totally ignore what happened in the previous matches. Remember that last ODI against Australia when Misbah performed well and cemented his place in the team? Prior to that neither him nor Malik could play the Australian attack.

  50. #50 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 24, 2009 - 10:17 AM

    khansahab

    Yae Ibrat ka maqaam hai, Pakistani team is playing like a club level team, they aren’t looking like professionals, they are aimless, clueless and hopeless and that’s all I can say.

  51. #51 by khansahab on July 24, 2009 - 10:20 AM

    Javed A Khan

    This innings has definitely exposed Kaneria’s newly developed weakness where he lacks this “killer instinct”. He is the main bowler for Pakistan in the 4th innings, and despite the fact that the Sri Lankans are decent players of spin, he should have taken more wickets after bowling 32 overs. I don’t expect Ajmal to take many wickets because he is an offspinner and his main job is to stop the flow of runs and exert pressure. Only Murali is an offspinner who takes wickets as regularly as fast bowlers because he can spin the ball so much.

  52. #52 by khansahab on July 24, 2009 - 10:27 AM

    Javed A Khan

    Because of nothing players and a lack of leaders and team players, Pakistan team has lost its killer instinct as you pointed out. These are situations when your seniors need to instill some confidence, like they did in the T20 Cup. However, the senior most players, Younis, Yousuf, Malik and Misbah, can’t do that. Yousuf is just dull, Younis is generally OK but I think he has given up, Malik and Misbah don’t care about the team.

    There are so many reasons why Malik and Misbah should not be in the Test team.

  53. #53 by khansahab on July 24, 2009 - 10:32 AM

    On the other hand this innings has definitely shown that Sangakarra is a class batsman who can bat under pressure. In Tests Jayawerdene and Sangakarra are definitely world class.

  54. #54 by Awas on July 24, 2009 - 10:40 AM

    This match is going to peter out to a comfortable draw for SL and all credit goes to them for batting so comfortably on the 5th day and importantly they did not give up even in a dead rubber and showed their fighting spirit. Lesser sides would have folded easily under pressure of a big chase. Well played SL.

  55. #55 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 24, 2009 - 10:45 AM

    I still don’t understand why Younus Khan has not asked Fawad Alam to bowl? Himself he has bowled in this series whereas he is not a recognized bowler. I remember once Younus bowled in New Zealand, Craig McMillan began his career in March 2001 and at that time he took a world record 26 runs off one over from Younis Khan in a Test match at Hamilton. After that Younus Khan never bowled in test matches and now we have seen him bowling in test match and he even got a couple of wickets so he thinks he can bowl. Whereas, Fawad Alam in his career has many wickets in first class, List A and twenty20 matches and have won the matches for U-19 with a 5 wicket haul. So, he is a recognized bowler who has not been used in this test series.

  56. #56 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 24, 2009 - 10:51 AM

    Lesser sides would have folded easily under pressure of a big chase. Awas

    From your above statement, Pakistan is a lesser side because twice they folded under pressure and lost the first two tests which any other side would have won.

    Khansahab

    I agree with you that senior players inspire the juniors and here like you have said, Yousuf is dull and Misbah & Malik don’t give a shit. They have secured their places for another few test matches after scoring runs in the second innings of this match.

    I also agree with you about Malik’s vain century which did not help Pakistan and Kaneria’s lack of enthusiasm, he gave up on the 5th day.

  57. #57 by khansahab on July 24, 2009 - 10:55 AM

    Javed A Khan

    If Malik and Misbah had been able to play the new ball, Pakistan would not have necessarily lost the first 2 Tests. In any event they would have put up a fight.

  58. #58 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 24, 2009 - 10:55 AM

    Angelo Mathews has scored a double hundred (270) in a first class domestic match and he is now playing like an accomplished batsman, hitting sixes and fours showing intent of winning this match with his 62 n.o.

    With 113 needed in 19 overs they can play a twenty20 from here and what do they have to lose?

  59. #59 by khansahab on July 24, 2009 - 11:08 AM

    Sangakarra is playing Kaneria so easily. One really wonders why Fawad Alam is not being given a chance to bowl.

  60. #60 by Awas on July 24, 2009 - 11:10 AM

    irrational

    In your ‘irrational exuberance’ you provoked my fellow administrators unnecessarily and without basis. As such, it was undoubtedly an ‘indecent exposure’ of you but you fail to see it as your own vision is clouded due to hatred.

    People have likes and dislikes of certain players/individuals but that does not mean there is biasness or agenda of some sorts. No one can universally agree on an eleven picked to play. There would always be differences of opinion. You may dislike Afridi for whatever reasons and motive you may have but then again he is admired by many all over Pakistan and other countries too. Similarly, you may give 20 reasons to like Dhoni or Tendulkar but others, despite their admiration for their abilities, may criticise them too for their performances.

    Your language was shameful. We considered banning your comment because of unprovoked abuse hurled but then let it go to expose your small mindedness and your own bias.

  61. #61 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 24, 2009 - 11:12 AM

    I would like to digress from the boring draw unless, Sri Lanka starts playing in T20 style and win this test match, in the meantime let’s go through this interesting news:

    on Musharraf’s Fate:

    Pervez Musharraf must be content in his London apartment, in less than a year Zardari has replaced him as the unpopular figure in Pakistan. Unlike Zardari, Musharraf always enjoyed a base of popularity. Given the present abysmal performance of the Zardari-Gilani government, this will force-multiply exponentially.

    If the Army can stomach Zardari, why should they mind Musharraf back as president one day? Even though Musharraf’s Oct 12, 1999, takeover was illegal in all senses of the word, in all fairness it was popular in the streets with both the intelligentsia and the masses fed up with bad governance. No tears were shed for the Nawaz Sharif regime. Almost everyone welcomed, myself included, a military coup in the name of hope, or as hope is known in Pakistan, “the doctrine of necessity.”

    That public faith in Pervez Musharraf eroded dramatically after the rigged 2002 elections was no surprise. That is the fate of all who close their ears to good advice and shoot messengers bringing bad news. As long as Asif Zardari does not meddle with the military, and until now he has shown no inclination for this rather fatal pastime, the military hierarchy seems more comfortable having him (Kayani was DG ISI before he became COAS, he cannot claim ignorance about all the Zardari controversies) around than Mian Sahib. One can understand the Army’s lack of enthusiasm in repealing the 17th Amendment and Clause 58 (2) (b). Why shackle themselves for the next time around? It stands to reason they seem supportive (as does the US) of a strong president and an ineffectual prime minister.

    On Whether Zardari Is Cornered:

    Despite being under pressure lately, Zardari has made notable accomplishments. The success of sorts in Swat has been bought at a heavy price, the blood of our young men in uniform. Sufi Muhammad took a day as a sign of weakness the abject and shameful surrender by Pakistan’s Parliament in its passage of a resolution for so-called peace in less than a day.

    The Taliban were not prepared for the outraged reaction of the Pakistani public. Their attempt to brutally take over Swat and adjacent districts was fully exploited by the Army. That most of the IDPs are returning is a clear measure of the military’s success (and, it so happens, Zardari’s). Complete success will only be possible when Maulana Fazlullah and his top aides are physically eliminated. Surviving March 15 virtually unscathed is a credit to Zardari’s political craftsmanship, being reduced to a figurehead president is certainly not in keeping with his personality, or the shenanigans of his friends.

    A master of the art of playing for time, he has again consigned the 17th Amendment to the cold storage of a parliamentary committee. Yusuf Reza Gilani vacillated in the name of party unity when the opportunity arose to get back the prime minister’s powers under the 1973 Constitution. By not maintaining the March 15 momentum he blew his chances. That the Supreme Court decision overturning Mian Sahib’s conviction on the aircraft hijack case came the same day as Zardari’s Raiwind visit is no coincidence. Zardari needed to head off Mian Nawaz Sharif running loose in the National Assembly with Gilani on constitutional issues.

    On Double Standards Of Nawaz Sharif & THE RESTORED CHIEF JUSTICE:

    While Mian Sahib must be congratulated for not becoming another political beneficiary of the infamous National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO), nonetheless his “democratic” silence about this blackest of black laws is intriguing. Even though it seems they presently seem to lack enthusiasm, there seems to be method in the Supreme Court’s benign ignorance of something that has disfigured Pakistan’s politics and threatens our existence as a nation.

    At present all eyes are on the Supreme Court as they decide on the blatantly illegal Nov 3 action. The NRO will have to be addressed; his lordships cannot ignore it forever under “a doctrine of necessity.” Ordinary mortals do expect that their lordships while suo moto-ing everything under the sun, will ultimately address this black hole in Pakistan’s heart.

    The NRO provides for London being the first (and Dubai the second) home for our leaders. Our leaders alternate in giving us bad governance, collect their booty (and their gifts which seems to be their right by being president and/or prime minister), and go back to London (and Dubai), at least till all is forgotten and forgiven by our gullible masses, and their popularity returns.

  62. #62 by Awas on July 24, 2009 - 11:16 AM

    Javed

    Even at this stage of the game a test match cannot be turned into a T20 mode suddenly because of different fields and the rules and restrictions that apply in a T20 are not possible in a test match.

  63. #63 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 24, 2009 - 11:23 AM

    MATCH DRAWN

    So, finally the agony for Pakistan has come to an end. What a shame? What a disgraceful performance? They don’t deserve to play test cricket. They need a total revamp in that mysterious camp that forge controversies and rebellions against their own players. They need to be admonished, penalized and punished severely. The captain too, needs introspection and see where he failed as a leader and what measures could be taken to cure these ailments and correct the anomalies.

    As I was asking to digress from cricket by copy pasting some news item, Awas has responded very nicely to the irrational puttar who created a “C” from nowhere and got fcked by ALL. LOL at his spontaneous outflow of emotions resulting from my premature whatever, the poor kid has no place to hide his Butt, I mean his face. 😀

  64. #64 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 24, 2009 - 11:25 AM

    Awas, I know that it was not possible, it was just a ‘fishful thinking’ just a joke which I knew would never happen and I was expecting a draw that is why I copy pasted that news item on Pak Politics which some of the Pakistani players are playing on cricket ground. 😀

    Ps

    I wonder why Sri Lanka did not play a little longer to score 400 plus just to be in the record books? They would have become the 4th country to score 400 plus in the 4th innings.

    Anyways, I am off to work now and lets hope ODI’s would be a different ball game and Pakistan will be a different team!

  65. #65 by khansahab on July 24, 2009 - 11:39 AM

    Younis is really pissing me off:

    He again said that phrase, “we played Test cricket after so long…..blah blah”

  66. #66 by khansahab on July 24, 2009 - 4:31 PM

    Malik’s supporters are gloating about him being the highest run scorer for Pakistan in this series, but let us analyse his innings and see what he did:

    1st Test at Galle

    1st innings- scored 38. Got out as soon as the new ball was taken.
    2nd innings- scored 0. Pakistan only needed 168 to win but no one could win it for them after Misbah and Malik were dismissed.

    2nd Test

    1st innings- hit 39 not out. Not much to say about this, because the rest of the team did not perform and neither could he.
    2nd innings- got out on 6. Played recklessly and did not use solid defence, at a time when Pakistan needed to build a sizeable lead. Pakistan could only garner a lead of 170.

    3rd Test

    1st innings- Looked good against the old ball, but was dropped on 21. Anyhow added another 24 runs but then got out to the new ball. Made only 11 runs after the new ball was taken.

    2nd innings- made a splendid century. Took the attack to the new ball as soon as it was replaced. Got involved in good partnerships with Misbah and Akmal. Salvaged his place for a year.

    So in my opinion Malik only made 1 good contribution and that also happened when Pakistan had already lost the series and Malik’s place was on the line. As we were suggesting, he should have been dropped after the 2nd Test because we all kind of knew he would look to protect his place in the team for another year.

  67. #67 by Awas on July 24, 2009 - 4:46 PM

    khansahab

    It surprises me that there are some Malik supporters around. If there are then its simply irrational.

  68. #68 by khansahab on July 24, 2009 - 7:56 PM

    I’ve just read Gul’s stats and they have been worrying this series:

    His average has been 44 (44 runs per wicket) and his strike rate has been 60 (wicket per 60 balls).

    That is much higher than his career average (32) and career strike rate (54).

    So overall, not a great series for Gul. He looks pretty harmless with the new ball.

  69. #69 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 24, 2009 - 8:00 PM

    It surprises me that there are some Malik supporters around. If there are then its simply irrational. AWAS

    LOL

    But, Awas you know who he is referring to?

    khansahab, all I can say about Malik is: “If there are more players like Malik, cricket will become extinct in Pakistan.”

  70. #70 by khansahab on July 24, 2009 - 9:22 PM

    The immediate reaction to this series defeat has been rather low-key. I have so far only read Abdul Qadir’s opinions in which he has expressed disappointment with senior players and has blamed a few factors such as Kaneria’s lack of commitment and the non-selection of Razzaq.

    However, he totally rejected the idea of rustiness that was propagated by Younis, saying that if Pakistan was feeling rusty Yousuf and Fawad Alam would not have made those centuries.

    Other than that Younis has only said that batting collapses should be avoided. He then said that some of the batsmen are in good form- he probably meant Malik because no one else performed in both innings of the last test. Younis has totally submitted to Malik’s mediocrity it seems.

    If they will not drop Malik, they should at least demote Misbah from the VC position. Afridi can be made VC, or it can go to Akmal or Umar Gul. I would suggest making Afridi VC for Tests and ODI’s.

    Other than that they should probably drop Khurram Manzoor and Salman Butt from future Test series.

    The travesy is that the poor openers will face the axe whereas Malik and Misbah will survive.

  71. #71 by khansahab on July 25, 2009 - 1:22 PM

    I’ve just heard the opinions of Osman Samiuddin and Ramiz Raja regarding the defeat. Neither of them identified Malik and Misbah as the reasons for the defeat.

    Samiuddin mirrored Younis’s views and said that lack of Test cricket is the reason why Pakistan lost. Ramiz said that apart from lack of Test cricket, there were technical issues with batting, but he blamed all batsmen, not Malik and Misbah.

    Samiuddin also disagreed with the news that there was deliberate underperformance on part of Malik, Misbah and Akmal. Ramiz avoided this question, but said that the openers Manzoor and Alam need to remedy their technical faults.

    I am surprised that Ramiz took a dig at Fawad Alam, although with the same technique Alam scored 168 in the 2nd Test. His problem in the 3rd Test was his temperament, not technique. Technically he is not very sound but he was playing with the same technique when he made 168. He should have praised Alam for his commitment and the fact that he made those runs under pressure on a tricky batting track, unlike the 3rd Test where the pitch was wonderful for batting when Malik scored a century.

    Whereas, Ramiz never blamed Malik and Misbah for failing under pressure and looking incompetent against the new ball. In the end he was asked about his views on the upcoming series against Australia and he said that Younis needs to identify those players who can replace Yousuf, Misbah and Malik if they underperform. Again the question must be asked why Yousuf’s name is used in the same sentence, because he is a class player and automatic selection under all circumstances.

    Ramiz did not sound very pleased with Younis’s captaincy. Although he mentioned that Younis is honest and fair, he said that Younis should command respect and not demand respect. He also said that Younis should never drop a player based on his own whim and must be fair. He was referring to Younis wanting to drop Malik and/or Misbah. Additionally he said that if Younis wants to drop a player he must first ensure there is a replacement available.

  72. #72 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 25, 2009 - 3:02 PM

    khansahab

    I was also listening to the itunes of Samiuddin and Raja’s phatta baja. And, I was also thinking on the same lines as you hence, I agree with you that both of them were cooking stew for Malik & Misbah and protecting their asses. This itself shows how much nepotism, regionalism and jingoism works on and off the field in Pakistan. There is a whole lobby that is protecting them and not highlighting their failures.

    The moment Ramiz mentioned about the technique of some new players, I knew he was going to talk about both Karachi openers, Khurram Manzoor and Fawad Alam. He couldn’t digest the fact that their opening stand of 85 is the highest opening score of the series. He never mentioned a word about Misbah’s stupid techniques of playing paddle shots and reverse sweeps and his lazy and lethargic run outs or getting others run out which has cost Pakistan very dearly.

    And, I agree with you that it is absurd to talk about his flawed technique, because with the same flaw in his technique Fawad Alam scored 168 where others failed. Also, if his technique was bad he would have never made that triple century in a first class match or, may have never stood firm to the ground and win matches for Pak U-19 and in domestic matches umpteen number of times.

    I remember the line Raja dropped about Imran Khan that he used to command respect and not demand respect, one can impress people by using such phrases (demand and command) but, the reality is Imran Khan used to dictate his demand openly. And one of the reasons he was successful is due to the fact he was more educated than others and he was able to spell out his demands very clearly and not like Younus Khan. Imran’s communication skills were far superior than his team mates (even then his speech after winning the 92 WC was a disaster) so, he used to act more like a dictator.

    In my opinion, one of the reasons Misbah is made vice captain of the team immediately after the 2007 T20 WC is due to the fact he is more educated than others. In Pakistan, one can see that people even with little knowledge or slightly better education than others try to project themselves and the masses are easily impressed by such people.

    Misbah does not have the leadership qualities or skills to lead the team but, he can influence people by doing backseat mothering and that is because of his age and the fag end of his cricketing career and its a fact which he knows he cannot lead the team now so, he prefers the role of a second fiddle.

    Malik is very mean and he is one of those characters who play the role of “a dog in the manger” (Na khailenge na Khail ne denge) whereas, Kamran Akmal and Butt, they are just followers and workhorses they need to be kept away from petty politics.

    The interesting point that Ramiz mentioned was about Mohammad Asaf. He talked about his “Maverick Attitude” and suggested that it needs to be controlled and when he will come back in the team and, he will find a different atmosphere in the dressing room. Now, this is interesting because when Asif was playing it was Shoaib Malik who was the captain and the Actor was also in the team. So, Ramiz did not mention that it was a bad time or uncontrolled environment or unprofessional behavior or anything like that in the dressing room which is an indirect hint that under Younus Khan it is better atmosphere. But, he did not say that it is better. Although, the politics are there, if Younus Khan can eliminate the ugly face of factionalism then it will be a different team.

    Talking about factions, divisions, grouping in the team and denying it is like, hiding dirt under a carpet or like, an Ostrich burying its head in the sand, Samiuddin and Raja both denied it. They said, this is nothing new, these are just rumours and they are there since the 70’s.

    There is no smoke without fire. Until and unless you address this issue and treat it with all its fairness, this issue will be there. In my view it would be fair to give more powers to the captain and he should warn them to behave, if they continue to do what they are doing, they should be dropped.

    Younus Khan is an honest, dedicated, sincere captain but, he is not serious and I don’t understand why he cannot put his foot down and say enough is enough. If he thinks that he can resolves these problems by being nice to everyone, then he is mistaken. His team mates will let him down. Like the “deadwood” needs to be removed, he should boot out the underachievers or those who are not performing and Mohammad Yousuf’s name should never be mentioned in the likes of Malik and Misbah.

    Ramiz Raja should be ashamed of saying what he said in one breath i.e., taking the name of Mohammad Yousuf along with Malik and Misbah. Why did he say that? Just because Mohammad Yousuf comes from a very humble background and he was a victim of circumstances Ramiz can treat him like that. If he was a Niazi or a Malik, or a Chaudhary he wouldn’t have dared to treat him with the same yardstick. I consider this statement from Ramiz as a very serious offense to degrade Mohammad Yousuf.

  73. #73 by khansahab on July 25, 2009 - 3:25 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I agree. People are creating all kinds of stories about why the team lost but they are avoiding the main question, which is, what was the turning point or the point of no return in the 1st and 2nd Tests?

    Today Mohsin Khan gave a statement that Razzaq should have played in all Tests and so should have Kaneria. This is just being fickle. The point is that bowling was not really a problem. Rauf batted well in 1 or 2 innings and Gul also scored a 50. Razzaq’s batting would not have been a great booster especially if he was coming after Akmal. Plus, why blame the batsmen who bat from no 8 onwards if your no 5 and no 6 batsmen are not performing?

    So coming back to the “point of no return”, in the 1st Test it was clearly when when the batting collapsed in the 2nd innings and Pakistan were out on 117. Misbah was out on 7 and Malik on 0. I would blame Younis and Yousuf too, but not so much as Malik and Misbah because if your no 3 and no 4 batsmen have fallen cheaply, it becomes your responsibility to absorb pressure and play long innings. Neither of them did that.

    In the 2nd Test it was when Pakistan were on 285/2 thanks to Fawad and Younis, and then they collapsed for 320, giving Sri Lanka only 171 runs to win. Here it was inexcusable what Malik and Misbah did. Malik got very jealous of Alam’s 168 and Younis’s 82, and he tried to show positive intent by hitting a 6 first ball but then he got bowled the 2nd ball. If Fawad and Younis had not played so maginificently under pressure Malik would never have played like this. He is too insecure about his position in the team. Who else will try and hit a 6 on the first ball and show a bowler disrespect like that? And why would you play like that under pressure when you need to amass a lead?

    So in my opinion, Younis and Yousuf were somewhat blameworthy in the 1st Test but most of the blame goes on Malik and Misbah, by virtue of their batting positions. They had to play better than Younis and Yousuf, but they did not. In other teams, say if Kallis and Smith get out on 0 but then Gibbs and Amla also fail, would people create these kinds of excuses that why should you blame how Gibbs and Amla failed, because Kallis and Smith also failed?

    I suppose it’s not a good example because in other teams selection is done on merit and there aren’t any question marks about players’ abilities, because many people still don’t consider Malik to be a Test player.

    Because of their bias people don’t see the fact that if you are batting at no 5 and no 6, you have to muster a lot of courage and responsibility if your no 3 and no 4 have failed. If you play just like them or worse than them, then you get blamed more. Clearly if Malik and Misbah are not up to the task of batting at no 5 and no 6, they should not be in the team.

  74. #74 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 25, 2009 - 7:23 PM

    khansahab; you are right in saying: “if your no 3 and no 4 batsmen have fallen cheaply, it becomes your responsibility to absorb pressure and play long innings.” But, that is not how the Pakistani players and their supporters see, they say, “if the number 3 and 4 don’t bother strengthening the innings especially one is a captain and the other is the most prolific batsman who get runs if he fails, why should we bother?”

    I had no clue about Mohsin Hasan Khan’s batting or his game and never heard him commentating until a year ago and I saw him discussing with Asif Iqbal on one of the TV shows and both of them were making sensible suggestions and comments. Besides, neither of them were biased or criticizing any player on the basis of regionalism like Ramiz Raja does. Therefore, I think the PCB should consider Mohsin Khan as an official in coaching or, whatever suitable posts he deserves in coaching and mentoring the team.

    Whereas, I won’t say the same for Asif Iqbal, although he is more sensible, matured and more clear in expressing his views but, he has that Sharjah background. If he comes in, people would be digging old graves and they will try to defame him only on that basis, whereas the real reason behind could be different i.e., he is from Karachi. But, they will use the Sharjah betting scandals against him. Although he has nothing do with that, and I have noticed whenever his name is mentioned in cricketing circles, people say ‘Oh, forget about him, he is behind all that Sharjah betting and match fixing scandals.” Whereas, the truth is, he is not and those who were behind it will never be mentioned.

    Actually the concept of benefiting the veterans through the CBFS was very unique and not only the Pakistanis but the Indian veterans were rewarded financial support and were once again recognized for their past performances. I don’t think anyone else did that anywhere in the world. But, as they say BUD accha BUDNAM bura. Asif Iqbal became budnam because of Sharjah betting and match fixing scandals.

  75. #75 by khansahab on July 25, 2009 - 10:50 PM

    Omer

    They got Rana partly because of public pressure and partly because of his performance in county. He is only good for T20 cricket and he should only be given a chance if Gul, Aamer or Razzaq fail.

    I don’t think Ramiz was hinting that Fawad should replace Malik and Misbah. The return of the ICL players has not been good for youngsters who were looking to cement their positions in the team, like Fawad Alam, Umar Amin etc. I don’t think Alam will get a chance.

    I don’t think Alam’s technique is a major problem. His problem is of temperament. In the 2nd Test he fell playing poor shots because on both balls he should have played differently. In the 1st innings he was caught behind, it was a fantastic ball which should have been left alone. But he decided to poke at it- so that is more a temperamental problem than a technical problem. When you are opening there are certain balls which you MUST leave regardless of how good you are. Even Tendulkar has to show respect to bowlers early on. In the 2nd innings he neither played, nor defended. He was in 2 minds as he received the bouncer. Ideally he should have ducked, or he should have pulled. But he just kind of poked at it. Again I see that more of a problem with the mind rather than the hands and feet. He has played some shots on bouncers and he has left some bouncers too- it is too early to say, but I don’t think this guy has dodgy technique.

    Ramiz is just being a cry baby.

  76. #76 by khansahab on July 25, 2009 - 11:10 PM

    Javed A Khan

    People say Asaf Iqbal started match fixing in Pakistan cricket. It seems very awkward, because it seems like he did it only once, in Sharjah, and then there were never any reports again. Normally, once you fix one match, you do it continuously.

    I don’t really know about this issue that much and I don’t want to blame someone or protect someone if I haven’t read so much about him. But certainly, you are right that from his mannerism and background (he is supposedly from a decent and educated Hyderabadi family) it is unlikely he would have been involved in such dealings.

  77. #77 by Varun Suri on July 25, 2009 - 11:12 PM

    Javed@52,

    Being a North Indian you should atleast expect me to understand atleast this much Urdu:)
    If we were to really go into the analysis of the name Mutt(h)-iah then it could also mean someone who is regularly practising hast-maithun.

    As far as certain irrational people are concerned “i am agree” with khansahab a paindoo is a paindoo irrespective of his/her nationality.

    Amma Javed Mia ab har ek Billion ko akele thode hi defend kar sakte hai? 15 Years ago if there existed LEGSLIP and if i had bumped into this website maybe i would have written some more horrible things but it is only when i got a bit older in life and during that process travelled and lived with people from all sorts of religions, cultures and nationalities that my views about lot of things changed drastically. Maybe this person needs to get out of aamchi mumbai and explore the world a bit and then he might come to terms with reality.

    It is really unfortunate that the bulk of the population within India could have such sentiments especially from places like Mumbai who have bore the brunt of Terrorism time and again so i am sure there are many more such irrational people in India and as are in Pakistan.

    As they have said somewhere Aakhir ek haath se taali kabhi nahi bajti..

    P.S: Ex-Prez latest interview is on air thesedays how come no discussion on that?

  78. #78 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 25, 2009 - 11:47 PM

    Today, Ramiz Raja is an expert, he sits in the commentary box or in Ramiz Lounge and talk with so much authority and criticize some of the youngsters for their flawed technique. Ramiz Raja has forgotten his own good old days. He was a mediocre player and his averages speak of mediocrity and nothing else. As a fielder he was a big KHUDDA, he could hardly run and drop catches. He should remember that it is easy to wag your tongue than prove it with the bat.

    Actually, Ramiz is not happy for Salman Butt, he used to praise Salman Butt a lot by saying he has a very sound technique and he is a very solid batsman etc. etc. Now, that his place in the playing XI is no more guaranteed or assured, he is finding ways to criticize those who are performing. I agree with khansahab he is a Nain Muttna, cry baby.

    LOL at Varun for the pause in Mutt-haiah’s name. I dunno if you have noticed, on Pakspin I used to write about Tendulkar as, a “master batter” and a solo performer, that was never censored because technically and in reality it wasn’t wrong or incorrect 😉

    Varun there is also an Indian movie called “Apna haath Jaganath.” And the great Chinese philosopher Confucius said, if you have “saiks” problems at night, wake up with solution in your hand.”

    khansahab

    As regards Asif Iqbal, there is not a single concrete incident in which you can say he was involved in betting, his only fault was he was the right hand man of Bukhatir. He was paid well, as the business was profitable and there was a lot of glitz and glamour innit. But, it was the bookies who crept into the game and at first they were gambling between themselves and then they started buying the players. There was big money involved and some culprits got carried away and sold their mothers and sisters for money. And, I don’t want to name them but, it is very obvious who they are and they are still loyal to those bookies and constantly visit their second home.

    Asif Iqbal played for Kent and because of his educated background he is very well respected, but as a captain they revolted against him. In fact they revolted against Mushtaq Mohammad and they revolted against Javed Miandad who was twice removed from captaincy because of the mutiny. But, he was such a good player that he never left the team or the game and no one can raise a finger against him to challenge his honesty and integrity. Even today, his passion for the game is as high as it was 30 years ago.

    Varun, are you talking about President Musharraf? Just a couple of days ago I have copy pasted something on this thread, you can browse rather, scroll up and read.

    take care

  79. #79 by Mohammed Munir on July 26, 2009 - 8:29 AM

    It’s hard being a Pakistani fan …

    I think no other team in the entire Cricketing World would put their fans through as much of torment and anguish as ours.

    No, it is never about loosing as almost all teams loose sometimes or the others, but with Pakistani team what’s maddening is, loosing from very comfortable and winning positions. Similarly, when the chips-are-down and we fans count them out, the team will suddenly comeback strongly and win us a game out of nowhere. The pain and misery of loosing a won game is as much as is the enormous delight of winning a lost game.

    We talk about boring South Africa and predictable Australia, but I feel lucky are the cricketing fans from those countries to achieve their expected results, more often then not. While on the other hand, for us, consistency is one area of luxury which every Pakistani fans have been dreaming about for decades now. Further unfortunate situation is that with every passing day, the team is becoming more and more inconsistent and not only are we loosing games where we have been well-placed, but we are not winning sure shot games.

    Be it the T20, ODIs are even the Test matches this team just can never achieve any level of reliability. Now such is the nature of this game that it is being called, “Cricket by Chance”, but when it come to Pakistan, it is much more then that.

    We have, on one hand, the fans who are ruing and lamenting this painful situation, but on the other hand it must be a phenomenal business opportunity for bookies, gamblers, bookmakers, and hardcore risk takers.

    Win or loose, this Pakistani team never stops from flabbergasting us by their completely unpredictable and highly inconsistent results !!

  80. #80 by khansahab on July 26, 2009 - 10:57 AM

    Munir sahab

    The worst is yet to come. If you think about it, ever since India developed a very strong middle order and good spinners, that is what started its ascension in world cricket. Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman became world class, Kumble and Harbhajan bowled very well in tandem, and then all of a sudden good things started happening. Sehwag came, Gambhir came, Dhoni came, Zaheer Khan was reborn and Ishant Sharma came etc.

    What I am trying to say is that it is very difficult for a team to survive if it is not playing good Test cricket. When England started winning Test matches under Nasser Hussain and then Vaughan, their ODI form also improved. The way I see it, Pakistan team will go down and down. To me the worst period of Pakistan had already started when Malik became captain and his whole tenure was filled with selection disputes and senior player rebellion.

    By keeping two mediocre players in the team, Malik and Misbah, Pakistan is going down fast. The tragedy is that neither of those deserved what they got. Malik never deserved to become captain and Misbah was made vice captain prematurely. Maybe Malik became a captain because of the circumstances of the that time, but to persist with him as captain for 2 years was folly. Pakistan cricket lost immensely in those 2 years and in my opinion, we are still seeing the ramifications of that disastrous tenure.

    I think there was politics involved in Misbah becoming VC. When he was made VC he was 33/34, and why would you make someone VC if there is no chance he would later on become captain of the team? And what exactly did Misbah do to deserve the honour? His skills should have been tested more at Test and ODI level before he was awarded the vice captaincy.

    Keeping Malik and Misbah is like encouraging politics in the team, accepting mediocrity over genuine talent, and inviting more series defeats and humiliation for Pakistan cricket. Younis brought a lot of hope to the fans but it is now crystal clear he does not have full authority and that Malik and Misbah are playing politics. The future of Pakistan cricket is very bleak.

  81. #81 by Salman Khan on July 26, 2009 - 11:16 AM

    Every once in a while, there are moments in sport that transcend the action on the field and yet help establish the very essence of sport by carrying it beyond the confines of nationalism, and indeed victory and defeat. By all standards the first Test of the 1998-99 series between India and Pakistan was going to be remembered as a classic even without the final touch.

    It see-sawed for four days: bowled out for 238 on the first day, Pakistan struck back, restricting India to 254. Then Shahid Afridi threatened to take the match beyond India’s pale with a violent 141 before Venkatesh Prasad engineered the most sensational of collapses, which sunk Pakistan from 275 for 4 to 286 all out. But at 82 for 5 before lunch on the fourth day, it all seemed over for India – barring Sachin Tendulkar, of course. With stubborn support from Nayan Mongia, Tendulkar chipped away at the target, initially nudging and pushing, and then with a flurry of dazzling strokes.

    Mongia lost his head, and his wicket, when India were 53 short, but it was the dismissal of a visibly tired Tendulkar, struggling with a back injury, that swung the match for Pakistan. They claimed the last four wickets for four runs and won by 12 runs.

    The series had begun under a cloud of uncertainty, with Indian fundamentalists threatening to disrupt Pakistan’s first tour to India in 12 years. Diplomatic relations between the two countries had been prickly at best, and all it needed was a small incident for the tour to be called off. But just as the security forces were getting in to position to tackle any unpleasantness that may have arisen, the crowd in Chennai, stunned at first by the turn of events, rose to their feet and began to clap.

    It wasn’t delirious or frenzied, but measured and sustained. The Pakistan team immediately took their cue and ran a victory lap around the ground. For anyone with any experience of India-Pakistan cricket, this was a deeply moving, even seminal, moment. Five years later the echoes were still being heard – in the National Stadium in Karachi.

    Copy pasted from Cricinfo.

  82. #82 by khansahab on July 26, 2009 - 11:21 AM

    ‘Pakistan has disappointed me’

    KARACHI: Javed Miandad, Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) director-general, said on Saturday that he was disappointed over Pakistan’s 0-2 Test series defeat against Sri Lanka but hoped that the national team would do well in the one-dayers.

    The legendary batsman said that every Pakistani wanted to see the national team to resume its winning streak in Sri Lanka after winning the ICC World T20 championship but losing the Test series came as a big blow.

    Miandad hoped Pakistan would do well against Sri Lanka in ODIs with the return of cricketers like Imran Nazir, Abdul Razzaq and Rana Naved ul Hassan.

    “It is good that they have returned for national duties but what matters the most is that how they perform on the field,” Miandad said.

    When asked whether he also suspected alleged grouping in the team, he refrained from replying, saying that he couldn’t answer the question since international cricket didn’t come under him, otherwise he would have said much and did much about it.

  83. #83 by khansahab on July 26, 2009 - 11:24 AM

    Younis rules out T20 comeback yet again

    Karachi (PTI): Pakistan captain Younis Khan has reiterated that he would not come out his Twenty20 retirement even if requested by the country’s Cricket Board.

    “My decision is final. I don’t consider myself fit enough for this format of the game,” he said from Colombo in an interview today.

    Younis had announced his retirement from the shortest form of the game after Pakistan won the Twenty20 World Cup in England last month.

    The 31-year-old said he doesn’t want to be ridiculed by fans by going back on his decision.

    “I had taken the decision to retire even before we won the World Cup. So it is final. I just want to focus and concentrate on building up a strong test and one-day side for coming tournaments,” he said.

    Younis said PCB Chairman Ejaz Butt had visited Sri Lanka recently and also spoke to him on phone but didn’t discuss the issue of his retirement from Twenty20 cricket.

    “I sincerely believe that Pakistan has number of world class players ideally suited for T20 cricket so there is no dearth of talent for this form of the game. Plus they are players in the team capable of captaining the side as well,” Younis said.

  84. #84 by khansahab on July 26, 2009 - 11:26 AM

    Sack the seniors: Qadir

    Karachi (PTI): Pakistan’s former chief selector Abdul Qadir feels senior players of the team should be sacked after the humiliating 0-2 Test series loss to Sri Lanka.

    “I strongly believe that players who are not performing should be replaced by other players who have done well for the second string side or in domestic cricket,” he said in an interview to a TV channel.

    “During my tenure as chief selector I tried such a system of selection but unfortunately the biggest problem is that the cricket board is weak against the senior players,” the former Test leg-spinner said.

    Qadir resigned in acrimonious circumstances in June because of differences with the Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman and team management.

    Qadir said the senior players must take the blame for the Test series defeat and not the youngsters.

    “I say replace players who are not performing irrespective of seniority or past reputation,” he stated.

    “I have heard too many excuses from some players about the lack of test cricket and that we are rusty when it comes to Test cricket.

    “But think about it, Mohammad Yousuf did remarkably well in the first test and he hasn’t played any Test cricket of late and Fawad Alam did very well on test debut,” he said.

  85. #85 by khansahab on July 26, 2009 - 11:29 AM

    PCB chief ready to resign if Zardari is not happy

    KARACHI: Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Ejaj Butt said he is ready to resign if President Asif Zardari is not happy with his performance, as media reports claim.

    Before leaving for Dubai, Butt told a newspaper that he was doing his best to fulfill his duties as Chairman of the board and if Zardari was still not happy, he would not mind quitting.

    “I am trying to bring about improvement in Pakistan cricket with honesty and dedication but if the President is not satisfied with my performance I will hand in my resignation and go home,” Butt said.

    “I have no concerns on this issue. I was given a responsibility and I am doing my best to discharge my duties,” he added.

    Butt left for Dubai to meet International Cricket Council chief David Morgan and also attend an ICC meeting next week.

    The meeting with Morgan is expected to end Pakistan’s resistance to the ICC moving its share of the 2011 World Cup matches to the other joint host countries — India, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

    Pakistan had threatened to legally challenge the ICC decision to move the matches but insiders in the board have disclosed that the meeting with Morgan had been specifically scheduled to reach a compromise over the issue.

    Butt, however denied that Pakistan had taken a decision not to pursue its legal action against the ICC.

    Media reports have said that the English law firm hired by the PCB for the case had advised them to drop the idea of filing a legal case although Butt denied this.

    He also denied that Pakistan had dropped the idea of pursuing its case with the disputes resolution tribunal of the ICC.

    “We will decide on our future course of action after my meeting with Morgan. All this talk about we deciding to drop our legal challenge is premature,” Butt said.

    Butt, a former Test player, has been under fire recently for his administrative abilities and the resignation of former captain Aamer Sohail last week as Director of the National Cricket Academy has given credence to rumors that Butt does not get along with anyone in the board.

    Media reports said President Zardari, who is chief patron of the board, is not happy with the performance of the board and he would soon review a full report on Butt’s tenure.

  86. #86 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 26, 2009 - 12:06 PM

    “PCB chief ready to resign if Zardari is not happy”

    More than 99% of the people in Pakistan are not happy with the performance of the PCB under Ijaz Butt’s chairmanship, and his statement to the media that he will resign if Zardari is not happy is ridiculous because, Zardari himself is disliked by a huge majority of the people and they are not happy with him. And, it is not the people of Pakistan who voted for Zardari as President, but he came to power through backdoor by using his party power, which got elected on sympathy vote of Benazir Bhutto. Therefore, Butt should resign ASAP to save his butt, before he is kicked out.

    Abdul Qadir, in his whole statement to the media talked about under performing seniors and in the end he excluded Mohammad Yousuf from the under performers list but, he did not mention the names of Malik and Misbah. Why can’t he say that openly and why is he being so diplomatic and beating around the bush? Or, does he feel threatened? And by whom?

    Miandad also did the same thing by dodging a direct question and he replied like a diplomat. The other day Osman Samiuddin and Ramiz Raja were denying rumours of factionalism in the team and Raja was cheeky enough to criticize Fawad Alam and Khurram Manzoor’s technique and even worst, he included the name of Mohammad Yousuf along with Malik and Misbah as underachievers by saying, “IF” Younus Khan thinks………Malik, Misbah and Mohammad Yousuf are not performing then he should drop them.

    And, I have strongly protested by asking, why talk insult Mohammad Yousuf by comparing him with Malik and Misbah and by saying he is an under performer? He came into the international side after 2 years and scored a century. So, what lack of test cricket are these people talking about? And, why are they comparing Mohammad Yousuf with nothing players?

  87. #87 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 26, 2009 - 12:25 PM

    Salman Khan

    As I was reading your comment, I kept feeling and asking to myself, why is it so familiar? In the end after reading the bottom line, the suspense was over. Thanks for rekindling the happy moments of the past.

    I have something to say about this article and the test match.

    1. First of all it was not a violent innings by Shahid Afridi but, a very controlled aggression and the credit goes to Afridi first because, he was the player and Javed Miandad second. Miandad was the coach at that time and he was the first and the only person who went inside the Akhroat brain to control it.

    2. Tendulkar played a very good innings but, he did not deserve to get the man of the match award, it was Afridi, his strike rate was better than Tendulkar and it was a rare treat to watch him play like that, and more than that Afridi also took wickets in that match. But, that was a diplomatic decision to give the MOM award to Tendulkar, which is not fair.

    3. Yes, the Indian crowd gave a standing ovation after the match and, whether it was for Tendulkar’s century or Pakistan’s win we don’t know but, it was a standing ovation and it is very rare to see that happening in India especially after India losing and that too against Pakistan. It wouldn’t have happened if it was in Delhi, Mumbai or Kolkata but, the Chennai crowd is different.

  88. #88 by khansahab on July 26, 2009 - 3:47 PM

    Javed A Khan

    The public of Pakistan did not want this type of democracy where someone like Zardari is President. The public was fooled by these politicians who projected this idea that Pakistan was going to turn into paradise after the exit of the dictator Musharraf.

    Actually, the public does not want Nawaz Sharif either if you look outside Punjab. The demographics are so strange that if you explain this to a non-Pakistani, he will not understand it: despite being unpopular in 3 provinces out of 4, Nawaz Sharif is the most loved politician in the country.

    The public of Pakistan is uneducated and biased, which is why they are being fooled in the name of democracy. Neither the public nor these politicians who preach democracy, are actually democratically-minded.

  89. #89 by khansahab on July 26, 2009 - 5:13 PM

    Shoaib unfit to even make a squad of 50: Shaharyar

    Former Pakistan Cricket Board chief Shaharyar Khan has supported Shoaib Akhtar’s omission from the 30-member Champions Trophy squad, saying that the mercurial pacer is not fit to even make it to a list of 50.

    In his present condition leave alone making the preliminary list of 30 players, Shoaib can’t even make a list of 50 players for the tournament,” Shaharyar told ‘Geo News’ in London .

    “Look he is overweight. He can’t bowl more than three overs at a stretch and he gets tired quickly so how could he be considered for a major event like the Champions Trophy,” Khan said.

    Shaharyar had several run-ins with Shoaib when he was manager of the Pakistan team on the tour of India in 1999 and in the 2003 World Cup.

    Shoaib has struggled with fitness and disciplinary issues for the last three years and was withdrawn from the Twenty20 World Cup squad in late May because of a skin infection.

    Shaharyar said that the selectors should concentrate on new talent in the pace bowling department.

    “I think no player is bigger than the game and Pakistan cricket does not need unfit players. Shoaib is at present unfit and not ready for international cricket,” he said.

  90. #90 by khansahab on July 26, 2009 - 5:15 PM

    Shoaib served notice for violating contract

    LAHORE: Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Director Cricket Operations Zakir Khan has served a notice on Fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar for violating central contract.

    The notice says that Shoaib Akhtar has criticized the team management in a TV interview.

    In a TV interview, some time ago, the Rawalpindi Express had termed the decision of dropping him out of the Twenty20 World Cup team as flawed. He also said that he reserved a right to file a case of defamation against the Team Manager and Coach, who, he said, made his disease public.

    In the notice, Zakir Khan stated that the speed super star had committed violation of three clauses of the central contract. The notice directed Shoaib Akhtar to explain his position by July 31.

  91. #91 by M. Y. Kasim. on July 26, 2009 - 8:56 PM

    I dont understand the logic of including the name of such players like Mohammed Hafiz etc. in the list of 30 probables when it is 100% certain they will not be picked in the final squad.

    Instead, players like Ahmed Shehzad and Sohail Khan are missing from the list.

    What Pakistan needs at the moment is as many new ball bowlers as they can unearth and as many specialist opening batsmen as they can develope who can play and negotiate swinging, swerving and moving extra-fast balls.

    This is the time to start preparing for it and not to give in to oft-tried mediocre players and their supporters.

  92. #92 by JAVED A. KHAN on July 26, 2009 - 10:52 PM

    Mr. Kasim

    Good to see you after a long time. You are right about talent hunt, but the problem is the selectors and the PCB administrators don’t see it like that. Pakistan’s fast bowling department has deteriorated. After Sarfaraz and Imran, at least they had Waqar and Wasim but, the Actor is so lousy that his followers and successors are mere mediocre bowlers. And, those who can bowl fast like Sohail Khan has been sidelined and only those who are girayeens and bandhees are in the team. Don’t you see how pathetic the middle order batting is now with Malik and Misbah?

    There is a player called Saeed Bin Nasir and he is from Karachi, he wasn’t getting a chance in the Karachi team so he played for Baluchistan and scored centuries and piled up hundreds of runs against the best bowling attack of the likes of Umar Gul, Sohail Tanvir and even against the slow motion Rawalpindi Maal gaari. But, he is not selected even in the squad of 30.

    You are right that players like Mohammad Hafiz should not be considered even in a squad of 100. He got his chances and failed so many times. Its a waste of time, money and effort and because of him a youngster is not considered. When are these selectors going to be fair? A question that has been asked so many times and no one has the answer.

  93. #93 by Shoaib on July 27, 2009 - 6:35 AM

    Salam everyone, long time no see 🙂 anyway take care all

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