POOR LUCK AND POOR BATTING

Pakistan went into the 1st Test with some hope. The Akmal brothers were in great batting form and there were high expectations from Mohammad Aamer and Asif. There were talks about Pakistan potentially winning this match or at least putting up a decent fight. It is arguable Pakistan put up a decent fight, but Ponting helped making Pakistan look better because of his adventurous (some would say, “premature”) declaration decisions.

Mediocre Misbah has again cemented his place in the side and earned admiration from fans

Pakistan managed about 250 in their 2 innings, which is a poor score on this type of track. So, from that perspective, there was nothing amazing about the batting. Misbah earned respect of some fans by making a 50 in the 1st innings, although somehow Faisal Iqbal did not earn the same respect by almost making a 50 in Pakistan’s 2nd innings, batting at no 3? It seems that the only batsman Pakistan ought to replace would be Imran Farhat, since he is the only one who scored measly in both innings.

The way Misbah got out in the 2nd innings was unforgivable. Not only did he show he is not able to handle quality bowling, he also showed that he cannot handle pressure. Johnson is a good bowler, but Misbah got out in an identical fashion to the previous batsman, Umer Akmal. One can say Misbah could not get settled, but with such poor technique and inability to handle pressure, how can one have the ability to settle down in the first place? You settle down when you have the ability to take pressure on and confront good bowling, which Misbah has shown plenty of times he does not.

A lot of fans commented that fielding is the reason why Pakistan lost, referring to the 2 dropped

Fielding has been Pakistan's perennial problem, so why does it become the focal point now?

 catches on the first day- one by Misbah and the other by Umer Akmal. This is the height of ignorance, because when was it ever normal or expected by Pakistani fielders to take their catches? When did Pakistan become an excellent or reliable fielding side? It was unlucky that Kaneria got injured and it was an error in judgement by the team management to choose Rauf over Gul (or even Sami). So, luck contributed in Pakistan losing this Test but it is laughable to make more than a mere passing remark about the fielding, because no matter who the opposition is or what ground it is, Pakistan will drop plenty of catches. One can be upset at Misbah ul Haq for firstly dropping a sitter off Ajmal and then secondly, grinning shamelessly about it because Misbah has proven to be a mediocre performer so far in his career. But, overall one can’t expect Pakistan to field like South Africa. Even Australia dropped a catch or two in the Test.

Salman Butt- undisputed king of flat tracks

This Melbourne track is probably as flat a track as a team can get in Australia and it is a significant cause for concern that Pakistan could only manage about 250 in both their innings. Players like Butt, Iqbal and Misbah may have made about 50-60 runs each in this Test, but how will they survive on a pacier and bouncier wicket? How will they play Johnson? In my opinion there is no glory in this so-called “fightback” by Pakistan, because on this type of track, a minnow side can score 200. Plus, the pitch was not assisting Johnson, Bollinger and Siddle as much as a normal Australian pitch does. So, there is no hope basking in glory because if the Sydney and Hobart tracks are more bowler friendly, then Pakistan can suffer innings defeats.

Bowling wise, the fans are almost unanimous that Kaneria and Gul

Younis Khan is not very consistent, but he is classy. And he is Pakistan's best hope against Australia

 should replace Rauf and Ajmal. Batting wise, Younis Khan should replace Imran Farhat, however the team management is double minded about this. What is the confusion about? It is clear that Farhat ought to be dropped, so why not replace him with one of Pakistan’s best ever batsmen? Faisal Iqbal has redeemed himself by making a fighting near-fifty in the 2nd innings, and Misbah will not be dropped for 6 months because of his 65 in the 1st innings, so is there any argument about who ought to replace Imran Farhat?

A combination of poor luck and poor batting made Pakistan lose this Test, where they could have performed better. The fact that Ponting made those adventurous declarations confirms that the Aussies know Pakistan’s weaknesses very well; they know this team can’t handle pressure. Players like Malik, Misbah, Butt, Farhat, Iqbal etc must never have been selected for Pakistan in the first place and the sooner they are removed, the better. This is not just about changing a few faces in the dressing room, this is something more substantial. This is about changing a culture, a mindset. Our job as commentators is to bring these problems to light and recommend changes. But the lazy, corrupt, biased and stupid decision makers don’t budge.

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  1. #1 by Maza786 on December 30, 2009 - 7:43 PM

    I disagree with several points that have been outlined during this thread. Firstly, how can one possibly say that dropping catches is acceptable because it is expected or has been a regular occurrence in the past? Ought we not to do something about it then? Otherwise we will never improve as a unit and remain as an inconsistent/laughable force. We will continue to struggle against world class sides. Progression should be the vision, not remaining as we are of have been in any walk of life.

    Although I have been a critic of Misbah’s inclusion as well, how on earth can one say it was unforgivable with the manner in which he was dismissed in the second innings? That was an unplayable snorting gem of a delivery in which it is just unlucky for one to receive, especially first up. The angle and pace made it truly unsolvable to negotiate with no matter what anyone says. It is just pure high quality fast bowling as opposed to a poor short/technique you are saying it was. On deliveries like that you just have to hope is beats the outside edge which wasn’t to be the case for unfortunate Misbah.

    Also, we should not exclude Imran Farhat for the next match. Although it may have been a streaky fluke he scored a century in the 3rd test against NZ. He hasn’t been provided with a sufficient number of opportunities since his return to the national side. This is a frontline reason as to why we have had this opening crisis in the past. Chopping and changing too often never allows one to adapt or settle which contributes to poor form.

  2. #2 by JAVED A. KHAN on December 30, 2009 - 9:57 PM

    “This is the height of ignorance, because when was it ever normal or expected by Pakistani fielders to take their catches? When did Pakistan become an excellent or reliable fielding side?” Quote from the thread.

    “I am agree” with Abdul.

    Even if it is an accepted thing by a few that Pakistani team is one of the worst fielding teams in the world and even if the Pakistani team continues to be a bad fielding team, it should not have been highlighted as a “height of ignorance” and to undermine it with the luck that so and so has not played and that is the main reason that Pakistan lost.

    There could be many reasons and fielding is the MOST IMPORTANT reason that Pakistan lost the match, that was possible to win. When catches are held, the morale of the team goes up like the commentators say, “they are walking with their tails up.” As if they (the fielding side) are the Murga(s) and the opposition is a Murgi. 😉

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    And, as far as Misbah’s inclusion in the team, his re-call is very farcical he should not have been recalled to join the team. Because, he was not selected in the team for poor form. He suddenly became the first choice when Younus Khan opted out. My mind cannot accept this logic.

    Since he joined the team, except for this one innings of 65 n.o., he did not score at all. Now, when there is a talk about reinforcing the team with a batting back-up, the captain is calling for Younus Khan’s inclusion in the team, the selectors are saying he (YK) should play domestic cricket first to prove his form. How many matches did Misbah play before he joined the team after YK opted out? Did he prove his form? Did he even play a single domestic match? Not even one.

    And, on what basis Misbah has been included? The player (YK) who was an automatic choice opted out, lost his captaincy and even his place for refusing to join the team for NZ tour, wanted some time out and said he would join the team for Australian part of the tour. But, he was ignored and probably being punished. Or, they (the mafia) are considering it as an opportunity to keep him away.

    Now, when he is being called by the captain, the selectors criteria has changed completely and why? This goes to prove the bias of regionalism embedded in the system. What is kosher for Misbah is illegal and forbidden for Younus Khan because, he is a Pathan and not a Punjabi. Or, is it a fact that Misbah is a better player than Younus Khan?

  3. #3 by khansahab on December 30, 2009 - 10:37 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I totally agree about Younis and Misbah. One must not forget that Misbah’s performance was absolutely pathetic and he was sidelined for that reason. Younis was also not in form, but he had captaincy and dressing room politics to contend with. And Younis himself backed out, he was not dropped.

    However, it is so easy to bring back Misbah yet not easy for Younis, who has actually made himself available. Younis is not the type of batsman who will dance on his crease or have difficulty negotiating pace or bounce. He will throw his wicket away, or he will play positively and score runs. But, he will not struggle to handle the ball like Misbah. He does NOT play selfishly and he does not play nothing innings like Misbah.

    Younis is not a great run accumulator, but he is talented and he can play any ball. His only problem is that he throws his wicket away. But, he is a better player than Misbah any day of the week.

    I agree that politics is a major reason why Misbah’s comeback was so easy (and mysterious) but there are hurdles for Younis.

  4. #4 by khansahab on December 30, 2009 - 10:45 PM

    Omer

    I didn’t see Faisal Iqbal bat, and I am no Iqbal fan. You do realise this don’t you?

    I am just cynical about the fact that, when players like Malik and Misbah can be given unlimited chances despite not being able to play quality bowling, why make poor Iqbal suffer? Misbah is an overrated player and Malik is rubbish. Iqbal is a better batsman than Malik.

    I did however see Misbah get out on the first ball he faced, and I am telling you this type of player does not deserve to bat in the middle order. He is not like Afridi, that if he gets out on the first ball for a duck he will redeem himself by taking wickets or good fielding. I mean, how can you be tolerant of Misbah- did you not see that grin on his face when he dropped the catch off Ajmal?

    It is not the dropped catch I am that worried about, it is that pathetic grin on his face. It is the grin of a man who has a province’s backing which confirms his selection in matches- a grin of a man who is “above the law”, if you like. The amount of Tests he has lost for Pakistan, playing selfish innings and not being able to play the new ball, and then to drop a catch and grin like that, it is criminal.

  5. #5 by amir on December 31, 2009 - 8:56 AM

    khansahab i disagree with u on regionalism if punjab got more players in team its because of its population even check current first class season pujab got about 8 first class teams NWFP got 1 team balochistan got 1 team sindh got about 3 teams and if u see other banks and companies teams there also majority players are from punjab so most of players in pakistan from panjab this is the pool from where slectors are going to select pakistan cricket team in my opinion slectors personal opinions about a playes counts more than region which he belong to and this happens in south africa too in australia right now they got 3 or 4 openers who r better then watson but no one is crying foul i dnt mind 11 players from karachi as long they are performing and winning for pakistan dnt u think its much better to criticise someone based on his performance and not on his region miandad is from karachi and i think punjabis loved him more than sindhis waqar and wasim are from punjab but whole pakistan loves them still its not because of thier regions its because they are great players the problem with pakistan team is that we got only yunis and yousaf who r really good players take aamir asif keneria and umer as close to this catogory otherwise rest of team consists on bunch of mediocres who are always playing for there place in team

  6. #6 by Mohammed Munir on December 31, 2009 - 9:08 AM

    Omer …

    I will agree with you that Malik is a better player then Faisal Iqbal on batting alone.

    The thing is that Faisal and Malik are both loosers and hopeless as Test players, but when we compare them with each others, we see that Malik is relatively better then Faisal.

    Faisal played 25 Tests with 1 century and 8 fifties and have an average of only 27.25 (pathetically low for a specialist Test batsman), while Malik on the other hand played 28 Tests with 2 centuries and 7 fifties and have an acceptable average of 36 (which is much better then Faisal’s average). Furthermore, Malik also bowls and have took few wickets in the Tests he played, which is not the case with Faisal.

    While for the ODIs there is no comparison as Malik is definitely a much better player then Faisal in ODI as well as T20 formats.

    Misbah, on the other hand, played 16 Tests only and have an average of 37 (better then both Malik & Faisal), whereas in ODIs Misbah have an average of 39.05 after playing 56 ODIs.

    The above easily prove that out of the three (Faisal, Malik and Misbah) Faisal is the most useless, but he still continues to play just as much of Test cricket as Malik & Misbah.

    Another surprising issue is that we rarely see any hatred, cursing, harsh and sarcastic comments and bitterness against ‘poor Faisal’, while there doesn’t pass a single day when we haven’t criticized and blamed Malik and Misbah.

    This is just not right, or so I believe, at least.

  7. #7 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 9:44 AM

    Shoaib

    My family’s “abaai watan” is a town called Pathanpura in District Najibabad in U.P, India. My father’s family shifted to other towns in U.P and mother’s family got established in Rampur, U.P. That is where my Pathan connection comes from. But basically I am an Urdu Speaker or “bhaiyya” as our kind is known in Punjab.

    Rampur is one of those funny places that you will see tall, fair, brown or light haired/coloured eyed people who look very much like real Pathans, but they will be speaking Urdu in a really boring and lazy accent and won’t be able to speak a word of Pushto.

    I am “from” Karachi in the sense that I was born there and have spent most of my depressing life there.

  8. #8 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 10:23 AM

    Omer

    You realise don’t you that if you support Munir sahab’s arguments about higher batting average= better batsman, then that would make Tendulkar a better player than Lara, Gambhir a better player than Sehwag and Malik a better batsman than Younis Khan in ODI’s?

  9. #9 by Mohammed Munir on December 31, 2009 - 10:27 AM

    The above new thread mentions “Misbah” more then 10 (yes, more then Ten) times and, as can be expected, not a single sentence is in his favour.

    We all know Misbah is not the best batsman we have got in our existing squad, but he is certainly not worse then Faisal Iqbal who too is playing in the same Test match. Beside, Faisal, there are others like Malik, Imran Farhat, Abdur Rauf, etc. who are in no way better then Misbah.

    The commentators and the writers have a higher responsibility as they have right to analyze, condemn and criticize the performances of any player they deem fit, but I think targeting any one specifically and personal attacks doesn’t gel well with the rules of good-quality and independent journalism.

    In fair journalism, ideally speaking, pros and cons of a subject shall be brought upto the readers without being judgmental and the audiences shall be allowed to form their own opinions, rather then an overdose of writer’s personal likings/ disliking, because blogs shall be more suitable for that matter and not the threads (articles).

  10. #10 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 10:34 AM

    Amir

    I respect your sentiments about regionalism in Pakistan, and the fact that you want players to be judged on performance rather than regions.

    But please tell me, why does it appear to you that I don’t take Malik and Misbah’s performances into account when criticising them? Yousuf, the Akmal brothers, Asif, Aamer etc, they are all Punjabis but I haven’t said anything about them.

    Miandad may be loved by Punjabis, but I have seen many Punjabis who hate him simply because he is from Karachi. This is something I have witnessed myself and I can defend this fact with my life. In fact many Punjabi people wanted Inzamam to break Miandad’s record simply because they wanted a Punjabi to out-perform, or subvert, or whatever, an Urdu Speaker.

    I never said that players from Sindh or NWFP should outnumber Punjabis. It would be stupid to say that naturally because of Punjab’s population. However, when it comes to dressing room politics and selection, you feel that there is a mindset that just wants to promote Punjab players. You have to seriously ask yourself whether players like Fawad Alam, Afridi, Asim Kamal, Younis Khan etc- have these players been treated as conveniently as Malik, Butt, Farhat, Misbah etc?

    Also, look at the number of batsmen that come from Lahore and compare that with the number of batsmen that come from Karachi. When it comes to bowling, I can understand because the Punjabi physique assists in fast bowling, but batting wise there should be no discriminating factor? In fact, Karachi has so many Pathans, Punjabis etc playing along with Urdu Speakers, yet the majority of batsmen come from Lahore. It seems like being from Lahore is some kind of divine blessing.

  11. #11 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 10:40 AM

    Amir

    About Waqar Younis- there is absolutely no doubt, that he is my favourite all time cricketer. No one can bowl like how he did. And to me, it does not matter which region he comes from. When I think about him as a bowler, it is purely on the basis of his aggression, pace, swing, yorkers etc and the trends he set which so many people imitated.

  12. #12 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 10:45 AM

    Munir sahab

    I liked the way you expressed your dissatisfaction with the thread, but I can assure you I genuinely believe Misbah and Malik to be rubbish. You can say I developed personal grudges against them, but that is because no matter what happens they are un-droppable. If they were good enough to be in the team, I would not have developed those grudges.

    Have you forgotten how staunchly I used to support Malik when he was batting at no 3 in ODI’s under Inzamam? I had a heated argument with Javed A Khan about it once on Pakspin (I later apologised not only on Pakspin, but also on Legslip when I realised my mistake).

    People have short term memories and they choose to remember things selectively. People like you and Viseem Sakab have forgotten that I was once a die hard fan of Malik.

  13. #13 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 10:52 AM

    Maza

    Do you remember Farhat was played for one year continuously under Inzamam?

    What do you mean about chopping and changing- how much more of Butt and Farhat do you want to see?

    Unlike Fawad Alam, they have got plenty of chances in their natural batting positions and they have failed miserably.

  14. #14 by Mohammed Munir on December 31, 2009 - 11:55 AM

    Khansahab …

    As I said on previous thread, comment no. 73, my problem is that I can’t come to your level and start openly calling you “Regionally Biased”, but one thing is for sure, you knew Viseem Sakab much better then me. Rather at one point in time, he was your best buddy and shared a blog with you, so it explains a lot of who have his traits.

    Sometimes in life, we hate some peoples so much so that in our intensity of rage we unconsciously start behaving like them, I hope this is not the case with you.

  15. #15 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 11:59 AM

    Munir sahab

    Viseem Sakab was like my older brother, but I was innocent and did not see the sinister and paindoo side to his character which became very apparent the way he messed around with Javed A Khan and then later with me and Awas.

    I can assure you myself, Javed A Khan and Awas are poles apart from him. On this blog we actually criticise all kinds of players- the way he wanted things to be, only certain players ought to be criticised. And even now he makes biased statements on Pakspin.

    I will never behave like Viseem Sakab, because I am not paindoo 🙂
    Can you believe it, he thinks people are against Yousuf’s captaincy because Yousuf is from Punjab? I mean, how stupid is that?

  16. #16 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 12:02 PM

    Maza

    So you know Fawad Alam personally? In what capacity?

    What is it to me if he is a saint or sinner? He showed he can bat really well and that is what counts. He is not like Akhtar, Asaf etc who have let their personal lives affect their performance and also brought disgrace to the nation. He is not like Malik and Misbah who play politics and ruin team performance and morale!

  17. #17 by Mohammed Munir on December 31, 2009 - 12:13 PM

    Khansahab …

    I never mentioned the names of Javed Khan and Awas in any which ways, so why are you involving them in this discussion ?

    BTW, I know they are both poles apart from him, but are you too ? 😉

  18. #18 by Mohammed Munir on December 31, 2009 - 12:16 PM

    H A P P Y N E W Y E A R to All here on LS…

    Have best of everything for the year 2010 !!

  19. #19 by amir on December 31, 2009 - 12:16 PM

    khansahib i do agree with u about fawad he deserve to be in team not for his batting but as a allrounder, reason he is not in the team is that he is not in good books of captains and that is not because of region, cause when yunis was captain he never gets same chances as other guys it is simply cause no captain has faith in his capabilities me and you can watch cricket on tv or read some press reports but we are not with teams in thier net and training sessions and we dnt knw thier attitude and how they play during that and especialy during tours they count a lot and unfortunatly for pakistan we dnt get home games now as for asim kamal he was born at wrong time cnt see him breaking into pakistan team in presence of inzi yousif and yunis but plz mention any batsman from pakistan not only from karachi which u want to be in team instead of misbah shoaib salman and farhat no fawad plz cause i agree with u on him and on miandad i was 24 when i left pakistan i played cricket with sargodha at junior levels and toured lot of cities but cnt rememeber even once that some one from punjab dislike him for being from karachi i think there are some guys from punjab on this blog they can correct me if i am wrong

  20. #20 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 12:35 PM

    Munir sahab

    Legslip is Khansahab + the other 2 managers, so it would be unwise of me to take all the credit 🙂

    There is not a lot of difference between what Javed A Khan and myself say about Malik and Misbah, so you might as well include him in the discussion.

    Or are you scared of arguing with a Real Pathan? 😉

  21. #21 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 1:04 PM

    Afridi says Younus should play in Sydney and he’d drop T20 to play Test Cricket

    Flamboyant Pakistani allrounder Shahid Afridi would drop his lucrative Twenty20 deal with South Australia to go play for his country in the Sydney Test match if asked.

    On the day Cricket Australia reiterated its desire for an international window to accommodate the rapidly growing domestic T20 competition, Afridi had no qualms about choosing the cap over the cash.

    All overseas players recruited by the Redbacks are free to break their contracts to play international cricket at any time.

    “Definitely if they needed me I can’t say no to them,” Afridi said.

    “If they sent for me I don’t want to say no, because they need me and if they need me definitely I can play for them.

    “Why not? I always think positively and with confidence.”

    Whether or not the Pakistanis would recall Afridi to the long form of the game given their need for greater application with the bat than the naturally aggressive hitter would provide is another matter, but the clash between internationals and T20 cricket will only grow as an issue in coming seasons.

    CA chief executive James Sutherland pointed to the likes of Afridi, plus West Indians Dwayne Bravo and Chris Gayle, as evidence of the competition’s growth, and suggested it would only gain in strength if Australian players, and other internationals, had room to play.

    Afridi has pointed to the example of former national captain Younus Khan as part of the impetus for him to play in Australia, following the No.3 batsman’s stint with the Redbacks last summer.

    Now as the Pakistani tourists figure out a way to extricate themselves from the mire of a 1-0 deficit following defeat in Melbourne, Afridi said Younus “should” be in the team for the SCG Test.

    “I think Mohammed Yousuf wants him, depends on selectors,” he said.

    “I hope he can come back because he played a season here so he has a lot of experience (in Australia) and he’s got a 50 average in Test cricket so he should be in the squad.”

  22. #22 by Mohammed Munir on December 31, 2009 - 1:31 PM

    Khabsahab …

    No I am not scared or anything but I can’t argue with three persons at a time.

    One by one, I am ready to anyone on 😉

  23. #23 by JAVED A. KHAN on December 31, 2009 - 1:41 PM

    “Definitely if they needed me I can’t say no to them,” Afridi said. “If they sent for me I don’t want to say no, because they need me and if they need me definitely I can play for them. “Why not? I always think positively and with confidence.” Quote from above.

    Someone should ask this Akhroat, why on earth he first announced publicly that he doesn’t want to be in the test side? Now, perhaps that hotheadedness has gone and the dust has settled in due to the cold weather in Karachi, he realized that it was a mistake. Anyways, Subha ka Bhoola Shaam ko Ghar vapis aye tou ussay Bhoola nahee Abdul Ch2So4 kehtay hain. So, let this Akhroat Afridi continue to live in the hope of getting an invitation.

    Btw, Abdul how well do you know Fawad Alam personally? And may I ask you why you chose to be personally pally with him instead of Moulvi Mushi and Saqi? (Your best buddies) Oh, I forgot to mention the names of Rana Nayee and Arafat and if you don’t mind I can mention the name of even a more superior fast bowler than the two and i.e., Rao Ifti.

  24. #24 by JAVED A. KHAN on December 31, 2009 - 2:04 PM

    Munir

    I would like to clarify the point of criticism which is under discussion i.e., if ONLY you see or analyze it from a positive side rather than a retort to khansahab’s comments.

    It wasn’t just Malik and Misbah, there was another name which was associated with these two culprits and that is Kamran Akmal. We all have criticized these 3 Musketeers for planning, plotting and hatching a rebellion against Younus Khan. But, Kamran Akmal is scoring runs, playing well and he is not in focus. Whereas, Malik and Misbah are not performing, hence they are in focus. So, if they play well and contribute well, its hard to justify criticism.

    My question remained unanswered when I asked about the logic of selecting Misbah on this tour. He was not in any squad for NZ and Aus. tour and the reason for dropping him was backed by saying, he is not in form and needs to play domestic cricket. But, luck favours the paindoo, after YK’s absence from the team the captain asked for Misbah the Messiah and he was sent to save them, whereas he grossly failed. His fortunes favoured him once again and, he scored 65 not out. And, that is it and added just a ZERO to remain a HERO.

    I have also asked for an explanation on why is that, “what is Kosher for Misbah is illegal and forbidden for Younus Khan?” Because, Misbah was sent in place of YK without playing a single domestic match and YK is being asked to prove his form by playing Pentangular Tournament. How farcical this can be? It is very obvious that they are punishing YK but, they don’t want to say this publicly because it will create an outrage in the public.

    The above answers amir’s question towards khansahab that YK is a pathan but, he lives in Karachi and does not have the same clout as Misbah and Malik have.

    The other thing is we have criticized Malik, Misbah and Kamran but, none of us criticized Umar Akmal, Mohammad Aamir, both are from Punjab. Au contraire, we praised them a lot. We criticized Umar Gul and demanded his expulsion from test squad. Afridi was criticized whenever he played stupid shots and got out. He is criticized whenever he gave stupid comments. So, in LS no one is spared, not even you and me.

    En c’est moment …. at this moment ….. Chaudhary Malak Saab day Pyjamay da koi zikr nai.… bakaoz he doesn’t deserve to be discussed at this moment.

  25. #25 by JAVED A. KHAN on December 31, 2009 - 2:17 PM

    Munir

    On your KFC-ing out from the arena, I guess you haven’t acquired the art of Multi-Tasking. What kind of a banker are you? 😀

    One by one or ek ek ker kay ao, reminds me of this:

    A cinema owner had a talking parrot and he was proud of his parrot which used to tell people to form a queue and come to the ticketing window by saying: ek ek ker kay ayee A janaab, baari baari say aaye A janaab, line laga ker ayee A janaab.

    One day a famous movie was released and there were too many people and it was kinda chaos and people were literally fighting to get near the ticketing window and one man got so furious that he climbed up and punched the pinjra (cage) which was hanging over their heads and pulled it down. The cage fell and opened and the parrot flew away, the owner was very disappointed to hear this news.

    A short while later, someone told the cinema owner that his parrot is sitting in the nearby park and the owner rushed to witness the scene. Cheel, Kuwway and other birds were flying over the parrot’s head and hitting his head with their beaks, (thongain maar rehay thay) and the parrot was saying: ek ek ker kay ayee A janaab, baari baari say aaye A janaab, line bana ker ayee A janaab.

    Ps

    I take up the role of a Cheel and leaving the Kuwwa option for khansahab. 😀

  26. #26 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 2:36 PM

    PCB calls back Fawad Alam, Abdul Rauf from Australia

    LAHORE: Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has called back Fawad Alam and Abdul Rauf from Australia with a view to reduce the number of national players present there.

    On the other hand, it is being expected that former captain Younus Khan may to depart for Australia. The present number of team members in Australia is 17.

    Spokesman of PCB has said that the Board has directed the team management to immediately send Abdul Rauf and Fawad Alam home.

    He said the National Selection Committee will make its decision of sending the substitute players after assessing the performance of the players in the second test.

  27. #27 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 2:38 PM

    Younis Khan should have replaced Malik or Misbah, not Fawad Alam.

    Anyway, if Fawad’s exit means Younis can get to play, then so be it.

    However, it is really unfair that Fawad is going to go despite not actually playing any match.

  28. #28 by Shoaib on December 31, 2009 - 4:41 PM

    Khansahab and Javed Sahab

    meri bhi pic lagao yaha per yaar 😀 kaisey lagatey hey picture? some really stupid imagination crossed my mind just now…I am asking for my pic here like ‘bechaa’ like he wants some icecream as well.

    Thanks Khansahab for the last post and lol@ManChestErr

  29. #29 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 6:59 PM

    According to the latest, Ijaz Butt has refused to let Younis play in Australia.

    It is believed 2 selectors, Ijaz Ahmed and Mohammad Ilyas, are against Younis’s inclusion in the team.

    Although Iqbal Qasim is the Chief Selector, it is believed Butt, Ahmed and Ilyas are making all the selection decisions.

  30. #30 by khansahab on December 31, 2009 - 9:09 PM

    Omer

    Malik and Misbah don’t have an influential uncle, so why are they always treated exceptionally? There is more to it than meets the eye.

    On India, I agree with you. Actually, most Pakistani batsmen tend to perform better against India because that guarantees them super-stardom in Pakistan. Inzamam, Younis, Butt, Malik, Misbah- all of them have super records against India.

    Even though I agree with you that more series against India would help weed out the poor performers, it would still not get rid of selfish, mediocre players like Malik and Misbah.

  31. #31 by khansahab on January 1, 2010 - 8:17 AM

    BREAKING NEWS

    The Australian media has criticised the PCB for not sending Younis Khan for the 2nd Test and has blamed politics behind this decision.

  32. #32 by khansahab on January 1, 2010 - 10:48 AM

    Yousuf heads to Sydney mosque on New Year’s Eve

    Friday, January 01, 2010
    By From our correspondent
    SYDNEY: Most of Pakistan’s cricketers chose to stay at their hotel right next to the Sydney Harbour on New Year’s Eve waiting to see ane explosion of colour that marked the start of 2010 here.

    But their captain Mohammad Yousuf had different plans. Yousuf spent his New Year’s Eve at the grand mosque in West Sydney where hundreds of people, mostly Pakistanis, turned up to meet him.

    Yousuf had accepted an invitation to go to the Rootey Hill Mosque and told its management that he will also try to bring along some of his other teammates.

    But in the end, he was the only one to turn up at the mosque.

    Yousuf told people there that he tries to preach Islam on his cricket tours abroad, saying that he invited top cricketers like West Indian great Brian Lara and New Zealand captain Daniel Vettori in a bid to provide them with a better understanding of Islam.

    “We had a session with Brian Lara when he came to Pakistan and told him things about Islam he didn’t know,” said the Pakistan captain, who began his cicketing career as a Christian but converted to Islam in 2005 changing his name from Yousuf Youhana to Mohammad Yousuf.

    “When we were in New Zealand last month, I invited Vettori for a similar session,” he said.

    While Yousuf was in the West Sydney suburb talking about Islam, his teammates were waiting for the world-famous fireworks at the Sydney Harbour where more than 1.5 million turned up to watch bright blue fireworks lit up the city at midnight.

  33. #33 by khansahab on January 1, 2010 - 10:50 AM

    I don’t have a problem with Yousuf attending the mosque on New Year’s eve, but that comment about him trying to preach Islam on cricket tours has disappointed me.

    Preaching Islam can be important for him, but he must not make it into a mission when he is touring abroad.

  34. #34 by Shoaib on January 1, 2010 - 9:52 PM

    Happy New Year to all

    Guys how do you attach your picture with comments. I have been asking for help but still waiting for answer.

  35. #35 by khansahab on January 1, 2010 - 10:57 PM

    Shoaib

    You need to register a username on http://www.wordpress.com

    Once you have done that, you will be able to access a system known as “WordPress Dashboard”. Here you will need to go into “User Settings” via the options in the left hand column. Once you are in User Settings you will be able to change your “Gravatar”, which is like a visual profile- in other words, a picture.

    It sounds complicated but it is easy. It is best if you try and do it yourself. If you have any problems give us a shout.

  36. #36 by khansahab on January 2, 2010 - 9:46 AM

    Aamer is injured and will not play tomorrow. Ajmal, Rauf and Aamer are being replaced by Gul, Sami and Kaneria.

    Yousaf has proclaimed that Kaneria does not get the respect he deserves and now Kaneria is being hailed as a potential match winner going into the 2nd Test and comparisons are being drawn with Abdul Qadir. In my opinion, there is no need to pressure Kaneria like this. Firstly his form over the years has not been that brilliant. Secondly, he should be a man of deeds rather than words.

  37. #37 by khansahab on January 2, 2010 - 9:55 AM

    On a different blog some people have given the names of cricketers from Lahore, saying that Lahore has produced the best cricketing talent in Pakistan, which I agree is true:

    Imran Khan
    Fazal Mahmood
    Saqlain
    Wasim
    Waqar
    Yousaf
    Qadir

    However, Karachi has also produced some prolific players:

    Miandad
    Younis Khan
    Afridi
    Kaneria
    Zaheer Abbas

    There are others like Asim Kamal and Fawad Alam who could have gone on to become greats, but were not given chances due to politics.

  38. #38 by Shoaib Bin Naeem on January 2, 2010 - 3:04 PM

    Khan Sahab thanks i have done it but infront of my primary blog, it says N/A…..what should i do now?

  39. #39 by Shoaib Bin Naeem on January 2, 2010 - 3:04 PM

    oh i just saw my photo, so that means i dont need to do anything…….thanks for your help khansahab

  40. #40 by amir on January 2, 2010 - 9:35 PM

    khansahib i agree with yousaf that kaneria dnt get same respect like others statisticly he is our best bowler of decade but he is the one who is always critcised it is very unfair to compare him with Qadir although kaneria’s strike rate is better than Qadirs but still they bowled in different era i think kaneria is much better bowler now then 5 years ago when he got 7 for in first innings because of his Essex experience he got much more control and his hot head is cooled a bit and he is matured now he and Asif had to bowl realy wel to take pakistan any closer to aussies

  41. #41 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 3, 2010 - 12:33 AM

    Happy New Year to everyone.
    Rain has delayed the match, any idea what the team is ?

  42. #42 by khansahab on January 3, 2010 - 12:35 AM

    Shoaib

    No problem and well done.

  43. #43 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 3, 2010 - 12:35 AM

    khansahab

    After dropping AB Devillier’s sitter Kamran said, koi baat nai shaid bhai koi baat nai and the next ball Afridi clean bowled him. This was in the T20 WC

  44. #44 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 3, 2010 - 12:38 AM

    khansahab

    You have a knack of finding real ugly mug shots for ur avatar….. btw have u seen the movie avatar?

  45. #45 by khansahab on January 3, 2010 - 12:38 AM

    Javed A Khan

    That is exactly my point- generally Afridi is quite thick skinned. We know what kind of politics and unpopularity he has had to face from the team management over the years, but he does not budge and his bowling has improved in every match.

    He has been dropped many times but has performed in domestic cricket and earned a comeback.

  46. #46 by khansahab on January 3, 2010 - 12:40 AM

    Javed A Khan

    I have seen Avatar- yeah, and I was amazed. It had so many similarities to the War on Terror, although I don’t want to discuss the “War on Terror” aspect any further!!!

    The military action, slaughter of innocent people, desecration of religious sites, exploitation of natural resources in an alien land etc- too dangerously similar to the military campaigns in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakastan.

  47. #47 by khansahab on January 3, 2010 - 12:41 AM

    Javed A Khan

    These ugly mugshots are from 2 pictures which I have pasted many times. One of them is CJ Choudhary with 2 paindoos on either side, and the other is some paindoo supporters of Nawaz Sharif holding his pic and shouting slogans after the Sharif brothers were restored in Punjab early last year.

  48. #48 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 3, 2010 - 12:56 AM

    Seems like today’s game will be ruined, the drizzle is getting heavier I can see that on the TV.

    Omer, in Bangalore test, both Kaneria and Afridi played and Afridi out played him in ALL departments.

  49. #49 by khansahab on January 3, 2010 - 1:18 AM

    Omer

    You need to watch Avatar then, and you will definitely draw parallels with the War.

    James Cameron himself stated that he modified the script with this War in mind.

  50. #50 by amir on January 3, 2010 - 4:45 AM

    ponting shot himself in his foot by winning the toss and batting i think he backed his team of facing pace instead of facing kaneria in fourth innings at scg great bowling by Sami pace and swing Asif also is bowling well Gul looks like the weakest link

  51. #51 by Mohammed Munir on January 3, 2010 - 7:02 AM

    Pakistan is walking or rather dancing all over Australia on this first day of second Test !!

    Australia are 117 for 9 and that too after the first session was washed out.

    Good comebacks from Sami 3 wickets and Mohammed Asif 6 wickets. Imagine, if Aamer was well and bowling along with these guys, I think Australia would have been all out below 100.

    Now, if Pakistan plays good sensible cricket and provided rain-gods doesn’t play the villains, then I think we are in with a good chance to level the series right here in SCG and go to Hobart on equal footings with the series wide open.

  52. #52 by Mohammed Munir on January 3, 2010 - 7:06 AM

    BTW, Umer Akmal dropped an easy catch in the morning, similar to the one he dropped in the first Test.

  53. #53 by Mohammed Munir on January 3, 2010 - 8:11 AM

    Javed Khan @ Comment no. 32 …

    I like what you have said in the start of your comment, and yes I will take your explanations positively.

    My argument with Khansahab was not on why Misbah is playing in the team, but rather if he is more or less comparable with Fawad Alam, specially, if Fawad is not bowling (which the Captains don’t bowl him anyway).

    The thing is that we all know why Misbah is back in the team, and if Younis did not backout of the NZ / Australia tours then there was no chance for Misbah to be playing again. So will you blame Misbah for coming back into the team or Younis for giving him a perfect opportunity ?

    The logic of selecting Misbah, according to me, is Younis’s reluctance to play. It seems PCB and new Captain (Mohammed Yousuf) wanted one of the experienced batsmen so when Younis did not agree to play they recalled Misbah.

    Secondly, although I don’t much follow Pakistan’s domestic cricket and am not exactly aware of how much cricket Misbah played or did not play before being reselected for replacing Younis for the NZ / Australia tours. But you are wrong when you said, “Misbah was sent in place of YK without playing a single domestic match and YK is being asked to prove his form by playing Pentangular Tournament. How farcical this can be? Because, I know this much for sure that after Champions Trophy in SA, Misbah was removed from Pakistan team, but he went back and played domestic cricket in Pakistan. Now I don’t how many matches, but he scored 284 runs in one of his innings, which also was his career best. So I think, may be, this was the reason, beside main reason of Younis’s refusal, for Misbah’s reselection in the team.

    See the following link:

    http://www.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/430997.html

    And this one also …
    http://www.cricinfo.com/nzvpak2009/content/story/436697.html

    Now the irony is that I never liked Misbah, but here I am defending him. My initial point was Misbah, no matter how bad he is, he is still better then Faisal Iqbal, Shoaib Malik, and can be comparable to Fawad Alam (if Fawad is not bowling).

    If possible, please can you rate these four players (Faisal, Misbah, Malik and Fawad) for me in order of their existing position in the team. Please consider Fawad without his bowling advantage, as he is not allowed to bowl anyways.

    Lastly, I agree with you fully that Misbah is definitely not a good batsman but from within the squad available in Australia, I think he deserves to play every game ahead of Faisal Iqbal and Shoaib Malik, or even Fawad Alam, if Fawad is not bowling. (I know Fawad has gone back home and to me it very unfortunate that he could not get a chance to play, but I am just trying to explain my view point here).

    I heard it before but I still liked the parrot storey on ek ek kar kay aao bhai, and I am more worried of Cheel then Kuwwa 😉

    Khansahab …

    You have finally succeeded in bringing me head to head with Javed Khan on this issue and you must be enjoying it now. 😆

  54. #54 by khansahab on January 3, 2010 - 10:04 AM

    Munir sahab

    I have never considered Fawad’s bowling to be some kind of “advantage” because it is quite mediocre. His fielding can be an advantage because he is quite alert. He is a proper batsman with the ability to play under pressure and handle swing.

  55. #55 by Mohammed Munir on January 3, 2010 - 11:05 AM

    We lost the first Test mainly due to our batting failure, whereas bowlers performed relatively better. Secondly, we had only four bowlers, comparing to 6 specialist batters and one wicket-keeper batsman, while our team could not reach a score of 260 runs in either innings of the match that in spite of such good batting track.

    But still we are going into the second Test with three out of four bowlers changed (Gul, Sami and Kaneria), and most surprising and grossly unfortunately no one of Faisal, Salman and Imran Farhat is being replaced, and Fawad Alam still not included, rather sent back home.

  56. #56 by Maza786 on January 3, 2010 - 12:07 PM

    We were all over the Aussies today. What a grand start to 2010. Hats off to the Mohammad’s . Ricky’s toss decision has partly payed the penalty. Once more he underestimates Pakistan. I doubt he will get away with it this time. But that as a sole reason for Australia’s below par performance today is total exaggeration. It was simply and frankly the brilliance of Asif and Sami’s bowling on what was nevertheless a decent track to bat on. After all professional batsmen should be able to perform on any given day regardless of the pitch and conditions. Well top batsmen can anyway which is what Australian’s middle order are said to be. Therefore, just the toss decision is a lame/pathetic excuse for the Aussies. They are just still not used to having dark days like these.

    Sami bowled with good rhythm, pace and discipline. He has really poked back at his critics and once again shown why he was such a prospect when he emerged on the scene many years back. Imran Khan rates him highly and now we once again begin to realise why. Asif on the other, was also splendid. Incidentally, he made his debut on this very venue 5 years back when he was very expensive. But what a bowler he has transformed into now. Had he refrained from the extracurricular activities I’m sure he would have been up there with his sights on overtaking some record breakers. His absence from the arena has really upheld his capability in terms of stats.

  57. #57 by Maza786 on January 3, 2010 - 12:30 PM

    Omer yaar, Afridi is better than Kaneria. I (am) agree with Javed Khan on the subject matter.

  58. #58 by Maza786 on January 3, 2010 - 12:33 PM

    AMIR, what u think of Imran Tahir for SA ?

  59. #59 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 3, 2010 - 3:42 PM

    Although Asif got 6 wickets and bowled well, I would give credit to Sami for setting up the trend and removing the first 3 important wickets, he bowled with a lot of vengeance and pace. IMO, Shane Watson was out and it was his hat-trick but, UDRS denied. The other decision of Billy Doctrove was over ruled by UDRS when he gave Marcus North out LBW but, UDRS over ruled the umpire’s decision. IAN Chappel was ranting and ranting that it is stupid and farcical to over rule the umpire’s decision because, from the naked eye and from the slow motion replay it was evident that North was out, but only the hawk-eye was showing the height of the ball that it was a few inches above the stumps.

    The ball had hit North’s pad just under the knee roll and it was pitched in line and was going straight, hawk-eye can only project a trajectory guideline but, it is not 100% accurate. Any umpire if not biased would have given him out but the technology saved him, not that I am against the technology but, these are such incidents which can change the course of the game and also create doubts in the minds of the umpires. I appreciate what IAN said, him being an Australian did not support the Australian batsman instead he was fair and just. Whereas, Richie Benaud is not only old and biased but he needs to retire from commentating.

    As regards Sami, it was a blessing for him that Aamir did not play, even if Sami was included at the expulsion of Abdur Rauf, they may not have given Sami the new ball to bowl. When Umar Akmal dropped Hughes I thought, that is over and Sami would never be able to bowl again with confidence but, he bowled so well that he was almost on a hat-trick which was denied because of technology.

    This is the second lowest total by the Australians on SCG and the lowest at home since 1996. Over all the captaincy by Moulana was not bad and he was seen at the centre talking to his boyz and arranged attacking field positions which is a good sign. Pakistan should be able to win this match if they bat sensibly and take a lead of at least 100 runs.

  60. #60 by amir on January 3, 2010 - 4:25 PM

    maza imran tahir was playing for titans last year a pretoria base cricket team and he performed quite well i never really heard about him this year its been said that he is going to get his sa residency this year but u never knw cause things are not simple in africa even he gets it i dnt think he wil get chance to play for sa cause traditionaly we dnt relly on wrist spiners fast bowlers always come first paul haris is only playing cause he can do a holding job when the ball gets old anyway imran tahir is good talented leg spiner but i think he waisted his talent by playing abroad and not in pakistan domestic cricket

  61. #61 by amir on January 3, 2010 - 4:51 PM

    c’mon guys how can u compare afridi’s bowling with kaneria’s he is a better odi bowler but in tests he is not. bowling in twenty20 and getting 2 or 3 wickets is different then bowling in tests umer gul was also very good in that version but test are different ball game and please tell me that if afridi was that thick skined why he opted out of test cricket the most difficult version of cricket afridi can b in test team but cause of his batting bowling and fielding but defenatly not for his bowling only kaneria is our no.1 spiner and he has proved it again and again with his record and performances problem is that we want him to win us all the matches but what we dnt understand is that even imran waqar and wasim never win us all the matches they played in and kaneria is currently no.4 in pakistans all time leading wicket takers and that speak volumes about the guys ability

  62. #62 by farasG on January 3, 2010 - 5:29 PM

    Quite a remarkable turnaround for Sami.. starting with the 3rd day of the quaid-e-azam trophy where he suddenly found rhythm. let’s see how this Pakistan counter-attack lasts because for all we know, our batsmen will let us down once again tomorrow morning.

  63. #63 by khansahab on January 3, 2010 - 5:44 PM

    Faras

    Nice to hear from you after ages!!

  64. #64 by farasG on January 3, 2010 - 6:37 PM

    khansahab.. sorry, was busy with my cricket book, then went South Africa for Champions Trophy and then Karachi for the book launch. Only just got back last week. I see no shortage of activity here on LS.

  65. #65 by Maza786 on January 3, 2010 - 7:06 PM

    Khansahab, I got him here !

  66. #66 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 3, 2010 - 8:55 PM

    Munir

    U got me here with that link, like u I was also not following domestic cricket with so much interest and I took the word of someone I trust that Misbah did not play domestic cricket after the team selection. However, the URL confirms otherwise. But, against whom did he score? Lahore Shalimar, none of the bowlers are or any recognition and the point is when he joined the team in NZ what did he do and how much did he score? And, do you seriously believe that he is a better batsman than Younus Khan? In the first test he scored 65 not out because out of all the people RICKY PONTING dropped his catch when he was on a zero. So, he would have been on a double zero. He is a pretty mediocre player. Secondly, the criteria of scoring in domestic cricket is the only yardstick of deciding a player’s selection into the national team, then Fawad Alam deserves the most on the basis of his consistent average in the domestic circuit.

  67. #67 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 3, 2010 - 9:26 PM

    Amir

    A mind can only see what it is prepared to see and we are all the slaves of our mind, we have been trained to accept what the majority thinks and believe and, we not only think that the majority is right but, we firmly believe in it. We believe in having specialist bowlers and batsmen and, those who excel in both we call them all-rounders and want them to perform and excel in both departments, we compartmentalize them and seldom analyze their achievements in totality. This is the case with many all-rounders and we label them as batting all-rounders and bowling all-rounders and we have ruined their careers. Abdul Razzaq, Shahid Afridi, Shoaib Malik are a few names. When I say ‘we’ I mean the selectors, the administrators, the media and the general public.

    You are asking us how can we compare Danish Kaneria with Shahid Afridi in test cricket? This is not a sin to compare but, a view to shed light on the other side of the coin that it is not totally dark, there is some truth in our argument.

    Kaneria has more wickets (245) because he played more test matches than Afridi.
    Kaneria’s test economy rate is 3.01 and Afridi’s test economy rate is 3.18 not that much of a difference (this is a fact that in the last 2-3 years his bowling has improved a lot).
    Kaneria’s strike rate is 67.4 and Afridi’s is marginally better 65.7

    In the batting and fielding departments, there is no comparison between the two. Therefore, if I have to select a player I will not compartmentalize his efforts but, view it in totality and select him on merit basis rather that conventional method. The game of cricket is changing rapidly and test matches are played differently, an example is how Sehwag plays in test matches. Kaneria may be a marginally good bowler than Afridi but, he has not won matches single handedly like Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Warne and Murali. Whereas, Afridi has done with his bat and ball both. I don’t want to drag this debate into a ‘never-endum’ sort of debate but, I want the selectors to think out of the box.

    As regards Afridi’s self imposed exile from test cricket, from the time I heard that he wants to rest, I have been saying that he needs a kick on his rear and the PCB should put their foot down and tell him like Shahriyar Khan did i.e., cancel his central contract and also tell him that if he wants to dictate his terms then his place in the ODI and T20’s is also not guaranteed. Instead of giving a nip in the bud, selectors like Ilyas and Chairman like Butt considered it as an opportunity to fill in the players of their own choice like son in law Farhat and Giryaeen Salman Butt and Faisal Iqbal because of his uncle. Isn’t it surprising that none of these people said anything against Afridi’s opting out of the test cricket?

  68. #68 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 3, 2010 - 10:10 PM

    ON SYDNEY’S PITCH

    Last January Australia beat SA on SCG because of the pace attack, Siddle was the MOM he took 8 wickets whereas, spinner Hauritz took only one.
    Kaneria bowled only 2 overs and gave 18 runs, the pitch definitely is not for spinners. Lets see what Hauritz will do on the 2nd day?
    Pakistan’s batting is very vulnerable, many people are surprised that they did not lose a wicket on the first day and are 14/0 that is some achievement.
    Yousuf and Misbah are the most senior batsmen in the current team, only Yousuf has to rely on his guts and play a gutsy innings.
    If Yousuf scores a century on SCG in this match and Pakistan wins, it will be a better achievement for him than scoring the 1800 odd runs and breaking Sir Viv Richards’ record.

  69. #69 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 3, 2010 - 10:21 PM

  70. #70 by Shoaib on January 4, 2010 - 1:36 AM

    Maza

    Is it you who added me as a friend on fb? are you Abdul? cuz i heard abdul was a cricket player and so do you, as far as your picture on fb is concerned

  71. #71 by Mohammed Munir on January 4, 2010 - 4:18 AM

    Tea Day 2 …

    Pakistan, at the moment, have their foot right firmly placed right at the Australia’s throat and all they have to do from here is to keep applying the pressure and never to loosen their grip.

    Pakistan, for the first time in the series, have a clear and visible advantage as they have reached 190 for 2 down with Faisal and Yousuf are at crease with the lead swelling at 63. Both their openers played their part well and reached their individual fifties, now all Pakistan have to do from here is to play the same ruthless cricket that the Australians are so famous for.

    So far, Pakistan have played better then everyone’s expectation and we can reach the minimum lead of 200+ without much trouble. But, Pakistan can still not afford to give even an inch to the Australians from here and they should aim for the innings win by increasing the lead to the maximum and, if possible, keep playing throughout the third day.

  72. #72 by Mohammed Munir on January 4, 2010 - 5:01 AM

    Javed Khan …

    And, do you seriously believe that he is a better batsman than Younus Khan?

    NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo … !!

    I never said that, and you are now putting words into my mouth to prove your point. ‘Mishbah’ (as some commentators call him) is never even equal to Younis Khan and to compare him with Younis is an insult for Younis Khan.

    This is what I said …

    > Misbah IS BETTER THEN Faisal Iqbal.

    > Misbah IS BETTER THEN Shoaib Malik.

    > Misbah IS COMPARABLE TO Fawad Alam (if Fawad doesn’t bowl).

    And finally, I still Believe, Vouch, Confirm, Guarantee that …

    Misbah is much worse then Younis Khan, who is miles ahead of Misbah as a player and as a person !!

  73. #73 by Mohammed Munir on January 4, 2010 - 8:59 AM

    I agree with Omer, Umar Akmal have some effect on Yousuf’s game, as Yousuf was playing very nicely with Faisal Iqbal and looked well-set, but when Umar came in and started playing in a dominating fashion, Yousuf got under pressure and started playing too fast for his style.

    I think even Kamran Akmal is not playing his natural game since the arrival of his younger brother and the way Umar have caught the limelight.

  74. #74 by khansahab on January 4, 2010 - 11:08 AM

    Omer

    Yousuf is a class act, a supremely talented player but he is also a Chu***a. The run outs he has been involved in, this continuation of Tableegh in the team and now ruining his and Akmal’s performance, shows that something is not right with Yousuf.

  75. #75 by khansahab on January 4, 2010 - 1:16 PM

    youtube.com/watch?v=WAxG57Mm6GI&feature=related

    Scandal of Asaf and Veena Malak. Is this the truth?

  76. #76 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 4, 2010 - 5:34 PM

    Umar Akmal is a very talented and fearless batsman, he is a delight to watch, he impressed me a lot with his ability to move within the crease so swiftly and so fast that the bowlers sometimes don’t get any chance to adjust their line or length and he slashes his cuts and drives at will. I hope he stays like this and not get bogged down by his captain, coach or manager who might be asking him to curb his aggression and play more carefully. Some players when they are pushed to go against their nature loses their natural talent and their ability. Last night when I saw him live smashing five fours and his 21 in 8 balls and then he calmed down. Ian Chappel was saying that he (Umar Akmal) reminds him of Viv Richards and Steve Vaugh i.e., when they used to come to the crease they used to attack the bowling instantly and then they used to calm down.

    Tony Greig cannot pronounce Akmal instead he says, Akhmal and Mishba Al Hak for Misbah ul haq and when fellow commentators were laughing at his accent in pronouncing their names he said, he has practiced it while taking shower. 😀

  77. #77 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 4, 2010 - 5:36 PM

    khansahab

    Whatever the truth may be about Asaf and Veena Malak, the fact is Veena nay iss murday may dobara jaan daal dee. 😀 Varna yae tou ho gaya thaa nikamma.

  78. #78 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 5, 2010 - 12:25 AM

    3 rd Day

    So typical of Pakistan to remain complacent when they are not supposed to be. Whereas, Shane Watson came with a plan and he is hitting fours from the first over, he had 2 fours from Asif’s over and now when Umar Gul bowled him a bouncer he hooked it down straight into the hands of Danish Khadderia, who took it so casually that the ball went through his fingers and he helped it to make it a SIX.

    This is what I have been lamenting all about that a player should be judged in totality. If Watson scores a century here, even if Kaneria takes 3-4 wickets it is not going to equal the damage that has been done now. This reminds me of Mohammad Hafiz dropping Rohit Sharma’s catch in the first T20 final and converted it into a SIX. That was the crucial and turning point of that match and Rohit along with Irfan Pathan scored 36 valuable runs. Pakistan lost by 3 runs. Dropping catches are very lethal and I suggest that a player should be penalized from his match fees like $100 per dropped catch or may be more.

    In Melbourne Umar Akmal dropped Simon Katich who went on to score 90 odd runs, even if Umar Akmal makes a good 50 it does not equate.

  79. #79 by Shoaib on January 5, 2010 - 1:14 AM

    I’m agree with javed, are you not abdul?

  80. #80 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 5, 2010 - 3:19 AM

    Shoaib

    “ab kya bucchay ki jaan logay?” chorro bhee, we all know Maza is Abdul and he is 17 years old, protege of Mushy and himself a deadly spinner of the ‘balls’ 😉

  81. #81 by newguy on January 5, 2010 - 3:19 AM

    Hi Guys,

    Interesting tussle going on between Australia and Pakistan, at this point 2 down and still trailing Australia has a big task in front of them. I am sure you all find it refreshing to see Pakistan dominating a Test match like after so long. Even in NZ when they won a Test they did not dominate. In this Test they have been right on top from Day 1, both with the ball and bat. Pakistan should choke them now and strangulate the middle order. Go for the kill. This is no time to let them off the hook.

  82. #82 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 5, 2010 - 3:22 AM

    newguy

    good to see you back after a long absence. Seems like you were enjoying the euphoria? As regards Pakistan choking Australia, they themselves are chokers and look at the way they are playing at the moment, they simply do not have the killers instinct in them. If Australia takes 200 lead they will win it is as simple as that.

  83. #83 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 5, 2010 - 3:27 AM

    WATSON GONE

    Umar Gul and Faisal Iqabl combo worked again. It is Watson’s nervous 90’s again, he is out on 97.

  84. #84 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 5, 2010 - 3:43 AM

    For the first time on this tour, Umar Gul is bowling like a real pro, the way he used to bowl as a lethal bowler in T20’s, today he is definitely by far the best bowler, he got only 2 wickets so far but he is bowling his heart out. Shane Warne was commenting that on day one Yousuf showed a lot of confidence in Gul by making him bowl again and again to get Bollinger’s wicket and that must have got his confidence back. Besides, Waqar must have also given him some useful tips.

    In between they showed a video clipping of Waqar bowling at Ponting in Australia a few years ago, the ball pitched outside the off stump and Ponting left it thinking it is wide, but the ball came in and hit the off and middle stump. That was a beauty.

  85. #85 by newguy on January 5, 2010 - 4:09 AM

    Javed,

    I was enjoying holidays, but I was also reading most of the comments here. Watson gone now and Australia are under pressure, Pakistan need to get only 2 more wickets and the rest will succumb to pressure. This is Test cricket, and 3rd innings pressure of facing an exit is not easy for even the seasoned batsman, the last experienced pair is at the crease, one of them gone and the match is with Pakistan. I think the openers played well in the last few games and this is good for Pakistan, I think 200 will be gettable. But if they can get 2 more wickets in the next 50 runs or so then they will be chasing even less.

  86. #86 by Mohammed Munir on January 5, 2010 - 4:35 AM

    Javed Khan Vs Omer Adman = Shahid Afridi Vs Danish Kaneria.

    Or rather …

    Javed Khan + Shahid Afridi Vs Omer Adman + Dinish Kaneria.

    It will be a good ‘double wicket’ contest 😆

  87. #87 by Mohammed Munir on January 5, 2010 - 4:39 AM

    Pakistan is once again dropping too many catches. Akmal dropped another easy one off Hussey.

    On the other hand, Faisal took a very good catch at slip (by Pakistani standards at least) to dismiss Punter.

  88. #88 by Mohammed Munir on January 5, 2010 - 4:53 AM

    Why we do not have even a single Pakistani commentator for this all important series ??

    And why is Tony Greig there, is he representing Pakistan ? 😉

    BTW, these ‘Gora’ (Australian) commentators are not the most decent and there is an air of sarcasms in the way they comment.

  89. #89 by Mohammed Munir on January 5, 2010 - 5:13 AM

    Asif got rid of Clarke and Australia are 4 down with a lead of 19 runs.

    While in the very next over of Kaneria, Kamran Akmal (who is having a very bad Test with the bat as well as gloves) have once again dropped Hussey at 45. This could prove expensive for Pakistan.

    Two wickets in two consecutive overs would have been great 😦

  90. #90 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 5, 2010 - 5:20 AM

    I cannot believe this, KAMRAN AKMAL dropped THREE CATCHES of Hussey and Kaneria is the unlucky bowler.

  91. #91 by Mohammed Munir on January 5, 2010 - 5:29 AM

    Kamran “FCUKING” Akmal dropped Hussey third time 😦

    All three times it was ‘Daanny Boowaaye’ Imagine how Kaneria must be feeling. Poor thang 😦

  92. #92 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 5, 2010 - 5:34 AM

    Munir

    its not a contest neither double wicket nor single, remember what Sweetie once said? She summed up in one word and i.e., Jhakki 😀

  93. #93 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 5, 2010 - 5:36 AM

    newguy

    i think you are up because it is Sri Lanka vs. India tonight in that tri-series, am i right? 😀

  94. #94 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 5, 2010 - 5:47 AM

    On one side there are sympathies for Danish Kaneria because Kamran Akmal dropped 3 catches of his bowling and on the other side, himself he dropped 2 catches, one of Gul’s bowling and one on his own, Then he misfield an easy one by trying to play soccer and converted that single into a four. And, just now he stopped one of his own bowling and then threw it back towards the batsman in an attempt to warn him. But, his throw was so wild that it went between the wicketkeeper and the first slip for an over throw for 4……….there was no need to throw the ball and no one was expecting that he will actually throw it. Ab aap isss Ch2So4apay ko kya kehenge?

    Gul at the moment is bowling an amazing spell………

  95. #95 by Mohammed Munir on January 5, 2010 - 6:08 AM

    7 down … lead is 48 runs.

    New ball due in 3 overs, should Yousuf take new ball or continue with old, as Danny is bowling so well with this older ball ?

  96. #96 by Mohammed Munir on January 5, 2010 - 8:38 AM

    From Cricinfo …

    This is what they had to say about Kamran Akmal, and Umar is not much behind too …

    Number-crunchers will confirm it, but if Kaneria had a wicketkeeper who could hold onto some edges, he would’ve gone past 300 Test wickets long ago. Instead he has Kamran Akmal. The senior Akmal dropped regulation edges from Michael Hussey thrice off Kaneria’s bowling, on 27, 45 and 52. In the morning Akmal had inexplicably forgotten to remove the bails in a run-out attempt on Shane Watson. Younger brother Umar has also dropped two sitters in the series so far; perhaps Adnan, the best hands of the three brothers according to the late Bob Woolmer, should be recruited as a substitute?

  97. #97 by Mohammed Munir on January 5, 2010 - 9:55 AM

    Something other then Cricket …

    UAE has officially inaugurated the World’s Tallest Tower (Burj Khalifa) at 828 meters, beating the nearest opponent by around 300 meters.

    Check this out:

    http://gulfnews.com/pictures/viewer/download-burj-khalifa-wallpapers-to-your-desktop-1.562213

    http://gulfnews.com/pictures/business/facts-on-the-world-s-largest-skyscraper-1.562013

  98. #98 by khansahab on January 5, 2010 - 11:57 AM

    Omer

    Have you noticed how many catches Akmal has dropped off Kaneria, Afridi and Sami?

    Compare that with the number of catches he has dropped off Asif, Ajmal, Akhtar etc.

    I used to believe it is just a coincidence but now I am doubting whether his dropped catches off those players he is not as friendly with, are just coincidences?

    I mean, Akmal and Misbah would love to have Ajmal back in the team.

  99. #99 by newguy on January 5, 2010 - 1:12 PM

    Javed Khan,

    I went to bed before midnight because I have to get up early for work.

    But as I have said Pakistan got themselves into strong position after Watson and Clark wickets. This match Pakistan cannot lose from here on. They will looking at 100 odd at the most or less. You guys should give them credit, even with dropped catches they made up for it and dominated the Test for 3 days. This will be an excellent achievement for Pakistan cricket.

    I am just passively following tri-series, not much interest except watching another ODI series, the only interest I have is Bangladesh and India haven’t played very much and I want to see some of the Bangla players against India.

  100. #100 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 5, 2010 - 3:33 PM

    The second catch which Akmal dropped of Hussey was so easy, so dolly that even a school boy would have held it. Because, it was a bat, pad slow and easy catch which Kamran Akmal threw it down. Was it deliberate? I doubt it but certainly it looked very odd that he pushed the ball to the ground. A wicketkeeper dropping three catches of the same batsman by the same bowler when he was on 27, 45 and 52 is criminal and what if Hussey scores a century and turns the match around? Already the lead is 80 runs now if it passes 180-200, Pakistan would be struggling. The opening pair by chance played well in the first innings, so don’t expect they will do it again. Besides, Australia would be going for a kill and their fielding is much superior than Pakistan’s.

    Missing that run out chance of Watson was mind boggling. Akmal was expecting Farhat to break the stumps (at that time Watson was halfway down the pitch) and when it didn’t Akmal collected the ball behind the stumps while he was on his haunches and then, he stood up with the ball in his gloves while Watson’s bat was still 4-5 feet away from the crease. At that moment, Akmal behaved like a spectator and he looked like an idiot standing there with the ball in his gloves. Even Harbhajan Singh would have broken the stumps (whether the ball would have been in his hands or not 😀 but, Akmal did not even have that presence of mind like Harbhajan’s)

    Penalizing would be the best method for every single dropped catch. Dropping first catch in a match $100 fine, second one $200, third one $500 and a match suspension
    . This is the only way these people will learn, otherwise they are lazy, lethargic and complacent.

  101. #101 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 5, 2010 - 3:42 PM

    Munir

    Except for the fact that Burj Khalifa is the tallest tower in the world or an architectural symbol of monstrosity, I don’t see any remarkable thing or an economical achievement that it would contribute towards the rebuilding of Dubai’s failing economy. For the Watani, it gives him an immense pleasure to say first in the world, biggest in the world, tallest in the world but, what is the use? It is so bloody expensive that only a filthy rich or a nouveau riche can boast about living there.

  102. #102 by amir on January 6, 2010 - 3:01 AM

    here we go pakistan need 176 to win and i m realy nervous about it i hope we dnt play like aussies played in 1994 against sa when fannie devilliers took 8.for and aussies were all out 112 chasing 120 odd runs i agree with javed that there should be financial penalties and match bans for dropping catches kamran droped another catch of sami today sarfraz ahmed is a much better wicket keeper and a reasonable batsman i dnt knw why they dnt have a reserve wicket keeper for a tour consisting of almost 4 months now there is no pressure on kamran of lossing his place i think they should send him back and cal another keeper cause if they can do it to fawad alam why not kamran akmal if pakistan is gonna lose this match it is only because of one man and that is kamran he is the worst keeper ever to play for pakistan

  103. #103 by Shoaib on January 6, 2010 - 3:33 AM

    What a show!
    Pakistan could have won this match even without playing second inning but:
    So many catches have been dropped
    Pitiable performance by Kamran Akmal, I don’t know how the hell this wicket keeper is still in the squad.
    Miserable captaincy by Mohammad Yusuf, deficient in judgment, he’s been very relaxed and defensive from this morning, seems like ‘’he is not bothered anymore’’
    Bowlers were asking Yusuf to adjust the fielders; he is like yeah do whatever you believe is good enough.
    Australian Commentators have been making fun of Pakistan cricketers throughout the match
    Full fling balls from Kaneria, I don’t appreciate that how the hell Mr. top spinner can produce full toss nuggets one after the other at this level of cricket.
    Mohammad Yusuf is not a superior captain. He doesn’t have such skills and he just cannot acquire such a spark. Some people can learn how to lead and some people are born with the quality and some people cannot learn it because they were not born to lead.
    I am not sorry for being so unkind, in the future may be I would see Mohammad Yusuf as an improved captain but that’s how I think about him at present.

  104. #104 by khansahab on January 6, 2010 - 11:55 AM

    Omer

    I have noticed your views match Osman Samiuddin’s quite a lot. Do you discern the similarity?

    Yousuf has his own insecurities, but if fielding was not not the reason for Pakistan’s defeat in the 1st Test, it was definitely the reason in the 2nd. 2 catches were dropped off Sami and about 4 off Kaneria?

    I agree with you that Aamer is a better bowler than Sami and ought to replace Sami, but poor Sami could have got more wickets had the fielders availed the chances. Poor leadership is also to blame because Osman Samiuddin is right- Yousuf never made the players believe they could win. It was Inzamam all over again.

    Javed A Khan

    I think Afridi ought to replace Misbah definitely. I know you say Afridi should replace Kaneria, but Kaneria performed OK in this Test. It is difficult to replace a player from Punjab with a player from Karachi, but only a fool would now want Misbah to remain in the team.

    Afridi is a better batsman than Misbah in Tests.

  105. #105 by Maza786 on January 6, 2010 - 12:36 PM

    The test may have been a great advert for the game but this is just a piss take or confidence breaker for Pakistan. They came so close to a rare victory against Australia, it was literally out of the question for Australia to win during many points of the match but yet it was the eventuality. Yes, a heartbreaking outcome indeed. A depressing emotion is going through many supporters and rightly so. So much support and time is dedicated to the game and yet this is how the national team performs. Diabolical. Many from this point would have lost faith and interest and again rightly so. Even a minnow side wouldn’t have faltered from the day 3 overnight situation.

    The field setting was absolutely the height of frustration for us (supporters). Cold headed logic. Just gifting the opposition an opportunity to get back in the game. Such a defensive unjustifiable tactic. This also, released the pressure off the batsmen. They were able to get settled and get their eye in with the simplest of ease. It was as if the score line was reading something totally different. Pathetic captaincy and even management from the coach or senior players. Didn’t they realise how fatal this whole episode was developing into? But even then, when some realisation was beginning to kick in the batsmen were settled and the more superior of the forces.

    Furthermore, 3 drop catches from a professional wicket keeper is totally beyond acceptance. This was penalising agony, but this is not like the first time this has happened. I expect a change soon. Consolidating on the criticisms, Nathan Hauritz was made to look like a demon or emperor. He bagged another 4th innings 5 for. He bowled well and deserves credit but to be honest it was only orthodox finger spin. Such a poor method or controlling of instincts proved to be a downfall once again.

    Nevertheless, many would have said that this is respectable defeat due to the matter of fact that Pak have taken 20 wickets and competed. But that is total nuisance. If one can’t push for a victory from such a commanding position, then how can they expect to win any other test? Therefore, this a daunting occurrence in terms of future reference. That statement may have been a respectable regarding had the game been a different more neck on neck situation but it wasn’t to be, instead Pak dominated for 3 days but yet ended up on the losing side. In that capacity, it is worrying. In fact, that is an understatement. It is demoralising, visually devastating and heartbreaking.

  106. #106 by khansahab on January 6, 2010 - 12:51 PM

    Maza

    I’m agree with your verbosity and I would also like to add the following words,

    “excruciating”
    “painstaking”
    “masturbating”.

    The above words describe Pakastan cricket.
    I am like your verbose, distinctive and poetic style in your prose.

  107. #107 by Arshad Khan on January 6, 2010 - 5:04 PM

    My opinion watching the whole test match and seeing the captaincy and the 4 dropped catches and one stump chance. i don’t got much to say but Pakistani people needs to come out and Bury the player along with the PCB member and selector. What the hell is our selector thinking leaving professional players back home and sending their relatives on tour who don’t know how to play cricket. It’s time somebody shoot the selectors and PCB members. After this insulting defeat is there nobody to put pressure on PCB and ask them what the HELL ARE THEY DOING. And its time for these PUNJABI’S to accept the fact that they bring nothing but shame to the country and that its time to let players from Sindh, Baluchistan, and Pukhtanistan get a chance and play. For exmaple, Pakistan won 2 world cup in which both captains were PATHAN. so it’s time to come out of the dark and accept the fact that Pakistan will never perform or win if they Play politics within the game. Time for PCB to take out Kamran Akmal, Misbah, Malik, Imran Farhat, Salam Butt, Fasil Iqbal and bring some promising player that was to play cricket for the respect of their country not for themselves. PCB needs to be strict on the player and tell the player straight up that they work for the country of PAKISTAN, Pakistan don’t work for them. They need to teach the player some discipline and team work and if they can’t do that then time to throw them out of the team like Australia do.

  108. #108 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 6, 2010 - 6:16 PM

    Arshad Khan you live in Troy Albany? I was in Albany for a while during Christmas. Anyways, your frustration is similar to that of many others. I was expecting this to happen. I would have been shocked and surprised if they had won. Our fellow blogger Maza Abdul experienced some penalizing agony during the match and khansahab has summed it up well. 😉

    We have already discussed Akmal’s dropped catches yesterday and now I don’t want to comment anything about this defeat because, I find it difficult to express my feelings about the way ALL the Pakistani batsmen batted, especially Misbah.

  109. #109 by Arshad Khan on January 6, 2010 - 7:06 PM

    Javed A Khan how do you know i live in Troy, Albany. have we met before. i only put up this post cause i couldn’t hold the anger anymore so i had to express it.

  110. #110 by khansahab on January 6, 2010 - 7:58 PM

    Sarfraz Ahmed now been rushed to Australia. Poor Sarfraz should have been Pakistan’s first choice keeper since 2007, but politics kept him out of the team. Now Akmal has surprised even his worst critics by dropping 4 simple catches.

    I think Sarfraz will just sit on the bench and he is just there to make sure Akmal is more attentive in the 3rd match and the subsequent ODI matches. I think like this because it seems too good to be true that Akmal can be replaced by someone.

  111. #111 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 6, 2010 - 8:37 PM

    Arshad Khan, yes we mat at Troy’s Campus last year at the annual dinner……..

    come on, do you think one needs to be Einstein or CIA to know where you live? In this technology age it is elementary my dear Watson.

    It is good that you have vented out your anger, but those sitting in the PCF coffers like a cobra will not be budged by yours or mine criticism, the whole system needs to be changed. But, the big question is whom do you replace ’em with?

  112. #112 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 6, 2010 - 9:52 PM

    Guys!

    There is a new thread on the blog titled, “From the dreams of stealing a historic victory to the jaws of a deplorable defeat”

    Please comment on the new thread to express your feelings about the recent match that Pakistan lost. Thanks.

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