THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX

Pakistan suffered one of its worst tour defeats at the hands of Australia. Pakistanis were completely outplayed in Tests and ODI’s and the tragedy was that they could not even win the lone T20. Chaos ensued during and after this forgettable, yet unforgettable series and grievous flaws were identified right from the top of PCB’s management to the Pakistan team’s on-field behaviour.

Butt is the laughing stock of the cricket world and under his leadership Pakistan cricket has gone from bad to worse

There are reports of turmoil within the PCB as Ijaz Butt has failed to change the culture of the PCB and in fact internal strife, mismanagement and incompetence levels have increased. Butt is under immense pressure to resign as it is alleged he is too old, incompetent and more concerned about running his private business than managing the cricket situation in the country. Since Butt has appeared on the cricket scene, the team has gone from bad to worse. There is no vision, no planning, and like his appointor, Asif Zardari, Butt is spending more time facing flak and responding (unconvincingly) to criticism than actually doing something positive to remedy the affliction the Pakistan team is experiencing.

On one hand Butt said that Yousuf was the wrong choice as captain of

Pathetic Yousuf thinks he captained well in Australia

the team for the Australia tour, but on the other hand he said there was no alternative. What kind of decision-making is this? Why was a younger player not appointed as a temporary captain? Yousuf proved to be a worse captain than anyone thought. Not only was he completely negative in everything that he did- batting, field placement, bowling changes, managing team morale etc, he also failed to win the respect of his team-mates, unlike Inzamam who was at least senior enough to obtain some respect from the juniors. It was also disheartening to see Yousuf openly condemning Butt’s running between the wickets and Manzoor’s technique. Interestingly, Butt proved to be Pakistan’s best batsmen in Tests and Manzoor probably played the best knock by a Pakistani in the Test series.

According to many news reports, Malik is the reason behind dirty regional politics in the team

At the same time as Butt’s inept management and Yousuf’s maladroit captaincy, there were reports of team disunity. Some reports went as far as suggesting that two camps were created in the team- the Karachi camp (thought to be led by Younis Khan and Shahid Afridi) and the Sialkot/Punjab camp led by Shoaib Malik. In fact some news suggested that the team manager had created a report on Shoaib Malik using politics to advance his camp’s interests. Whether any action is taken against Malik for this remains to be seen. Indeed, Malik captained Pakistan’s T20 match and although it was known Pakistan would provide a tough challenge to Australia in any circumstance, Malik’s captaincy has been hailed as “inspirational” and “attacking” by his misled supporters. The truth is that a club T20 team from Pakistan can provide a tough challenge to Australia in T20, yet somehow Malik’s supporters have forgotten this.

In such dire times, Pakistan needs a completely new and revolutionary strategy. As far as team

Umar Akmal is a gifted batsman and has a very good cricketing mind

Fawad has some technical batting problems, but he still impresses. He is the best fielder in the side and his batting and fielding impressed the Australians

performance is concerned, in Umar Akmal and Fawad Alam Pakistan found their best 2 ODI batsmen. This firstly proves that the much maligned Pakistani domestic structure can still produce good players. Secondly, this proves that for some reason or the other, the team’s main batsmen- Younis, Yousuf and Malik, are not up to the mark and must make way for juniors. When your best ODI batsmen are not your 4 or 5 most experienced batsmen, you know something is wrong with your team.

The horror seen in Butt’s time shows that a former cricketer is not necessarily a good administrator. Pakistan should appoint a management expert with good cricket acumen to lead the Board. In fact, the best way forward is probably to fire all former cricketers who are involved in running the show as all of these cricketers seem to have shady motives and personal grudges against each other, and an organisation cannot run successfully in this way.

Inti, it is no laughing matter that under your term as coach, Pakistan has become a very weak team, especially when chasing targets

A younger, fitter coach should be appointed. Pakistan should look beyond people like Intikhab Alam and should opt for a relatively low profile coach, perhaps from some regional academy. Pakistan has suffered too much and too long under Intikhab- his failure reflects in the fact that no improvements have been seen in the players. All the technical weaknesses remain, the standard of fielding is still poor, the bowlers are still getting injured relatively easily. The worst aspect is that mentally the Pakistan team has worsened under Intikhab, whereas when Inti was appointed he said mental strength would be one of his main areas of focus. Pakistan is losing Test matches from winning positions and it is looking increasingly vulnerable when chasing even modest targets.

Mediocrity is prevalent across the squad. Being mediocre is in some

Too many mediocre performers spoil the broth

ways worse than being pathetic, because a mediocre player makes 30 runs with some consistency to cement his position in the team, but is always focusing to remain in the team because he finds it so hard to make sizable scores, especially when the situation demands some character from a batsman. Similarly, bowlers like Rana and Rao survive on picking up 1 or 2 wickets here and there, or keeping the economy rate to under 4.5. Whereas, a pathetic or substandard player gets booted straightaway from the team. Shoaib Malik must not be tolerated anymore in the lineup. Similarly, Rana and Rao must be permanently banned from playing international cricket.

He can be very stupid sometimes, but his "outside the box" gameplay may well be what Pakistan cricket needs to survive

Afridi’s ball tampering incident was regrettable. However, whereas it has caused anger for many, many also see Afridi as someone who would be willing to think outside the box and who would be desperate to win matches for Pakistan. Although Afridi is not the brightest cricketer in the squad, he is very unlikely to tamper with the ball again. Afridi has received his penalty from the ICC and he must now be forgiven by the PCB and Pakistani public. Pakistan needs Afridi’s passionate captaincy and fighting spirit, and the fans should persuade the PCB to experiment with Afridi in all formats. Otherwise, Malik or Akmal will be appointed captain and Pakistan should not reward their consistently poor performances any longer.

Now the PCB must use their initiative and build a Test team with Younis, Yousuf, Afridi, U Akmal and Fawad Alam in the middle order. In ODI’s, Afridi, U Akmal and Alam must be the main batsmen and perhaps Butt will also improve his ODI form and become a significant cog in the wheel. In Umer Akmal and Fawad Alam Pakistan has found two exciting and talented players and now the PCB must look for more players like them.

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  1. #1 by khansahab on February 7, 2010 - 9:37 AM

    Pakistan coach accepts blame for Australian defeats

    (AFP) – 1 hour ago

    KARACHI — Pakistan coach Intikhab Alam said Sunday he accepted full responsibility for his team’s dismal performance on its tour of Australia last month, and vowed not to run away from any investigation.
    Pakistan were whitewashed 3-0 in the Tests and 5-0 in the one-dayers and lost the only Twenty20 match on the tour — results which prompted former players and fans to demand an overhaul of the team and management.
    Chief selector Iqbal Qasim last week resigned, but Alam said he would not make any premature comments.
    “I will not run away and will face an investigation,” said Alam after the team’s return home early Sunday. “I am not going to comment on any resignation but I take full responsibility for the defeat.”
    Pakistan captain Mohammad Yousuf, who returned to Pakistan on Wednesday, also vowed to continue as skipper despite a hint from the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) that there will be a change in the captaincy.
    PCB last week announced a six-man evaluation committee to investigate the defeats, which Alam said were due to poor fielding and batting.
    “It was a disappointing tour but if you look into the history, Pakistan has never performed well on a tour of Australia,” said Alam.
    “Our fielding was very poor and batsmen lacked determination and their shot selection was bad.”
    This was Pakistan’s fourth straight 3-0 Test series whitewash against Australia, having lost by the same margin on the tours in 1999 and 2004.
    Australia also beat them 3-0 when the series was played on neutral venues of Colombo and Sharjah in 2002.
    The team was whisked away from Karachi’s old airport terminal due to security problems in the city, where 33 people were killed in twin bomb blasts amid sectarian violence on Friday.
    Alam denied there was any rift in the team.
    “Talk of grouping is baseless and rumours. Such things come when the team loses,” said Alam, who replaced Australian Geoff Lawson in October 2008. “Australia is still the best team in the world and they played well.
    “Australia lost a home Test series against South Africa, were defeated in Tests in India and handed Ashes to England in the last two years, but their people backed them and they have regrouped. We should also back our team.”
    Alam said he would give the PCB a detailed report on team’s performance.
    “I will give a detailed report on team’s performance on the tour and hope a fair analysis is done,” said Alam, whose last tenure as coach ended after Pakistan lost a Test series 2-1 to Sri Lanka in 2000.
    When asked about all-rounder Shahid Afridi’s ball-tampering case, Alam said: “every team in the world does tamper with the ball, but Afridi’s style was unacceptable and different.”
    Afridi, leading Pakistan in the fifth one-day at Perth last Sunday, was caught biting the ball on two separate occasions. He was banned for two Twenty20 matches.

  2. #2 by khansahab on February 7, 2010 - 9:55 AM

    Omer

    That link from Wikipedia that has been pasted by Javed A Khan Afridi about Pashtuns, I think it is a decent link.

    One of the things that strike out about that link are that it identifies Ayub Khan has a non-Pashtu Pathan, because Khan was a Punjabi like Imran Khan, or Majad Khan.

    I remember once a Punjabi gentleman was arguing with me and he said that, all dictators who ruled Pakastan were non-Punjabi. He said Zia ul Haq was a Muhajir, Ayub and Yahya were Pathans and Musharraf was a Muhajir.

    He is only right about Musharraf- Ayub was Punjabi of Pathan ancestry , Yahya was Punjabi of Persian ancestry, Zia ul Haq was Punjabi from Indian Punjab.

  3. #3 by khansahab on February 7, 2010 - 10:01 AM

    That link pasted by Javed A Khan Afridi also mentions Shahrukh Khan as an ethnic Pathan.

    Shahrukh Khan came on BBC’s “Friday Night with Jonathan Ross” programme and I was very impressed by the way he conducted himself in front of a white audience. Normally when Indian stars are interviewed in front of white people, they fake accents, try and act “Western” and often make fools out of themselves.

    However, Khan was very genuine- like he is when he is in India. He also came across as a very intelligent and charming personality and the host, Jonathan Ross, made that remark.

    He was asked about the Hindu extremists trying to ban his movie and he said that he is worried. He was asked about how he feels in London and he said he feels very comfortable because he can relate to so many Indians and Pakistanis that live in London. He was asked how he has brought up his children and he said they do not have a religion, but follow both Islam and Hinduism. Finally he was asked about his movie, “My Name is Khan” and he said that the tagline of the movie is the following:

    “My name is Khan……and I am not a terrorist”.

  4. #4 by Mohammed Munir on February 7, 2010 - 11:28 AM

    Khansahab …

    A good post-mortum and well-written article.

    Pakistin cricket is going through a rough patch for a long long time and it is very unfortunate that we still don’t see much hope of some real progress.

    They should try to bring in, as many an possible of, our U-19 team members and try to GROOM them, rather then these “Useless Seniors”. If we have been lucky to find Aamir and Umar Akmal, we may find a few more of such talented youngsters.

  5. #5 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2010 - 11:47 AM

    khansahab

    I would like to know what SRK said about how his children follow two religions? KuvVaa Chalaa Hans ki chaal….. or, Aadha teetar, aadha batair…. I dunno how they will grow up to be? Human beings are not like a grafted fruit that, you take a branch of Alphonso and graft it on Chaunsa and you get a mix of both and it is the best. Yes, that can be a good mango but, human beings are different because they live in a society where they are seen, judged and treated by the society for what they are. The children may be SRK’s children as long as they are children. But, when they grow up what will they be? How the society will see them, judge them, accept and treat them?

    You can see how Sanjay Dutt is treated in India. Mom was a Muslim and Dad was a Hindu, both of them were nice people, the kid isn’t bad either but, some see him as Munna Bhai and some see him like a Khalnayak. Some think he is one of us and others say he is one of them and some openly say he is a traitor and for that he was even jailed with a petty excuse. My point is, it is extremely difficult for children to grow up like that in a society where the emphasis of religion, race and the colour of their skin is of prime importance and they are treated according to that.

    SRK may not be alive to see how difficult the life of his children may be when they grow up. Today he is happy because he is a celebrity and people accept him because of what he was. But, it will not be the same for his children. Therefore, every action you take today has an effect on you tomorrow. Man is responsible to others and he is responsible for others. It is not a life that you live today but, its about a life for your future generations of tomorrow. Stealing the caption of your thread, I must say, just “thinking outside the box” is not enough, you have to think intelligently for tomorrow, only then you would be able to say hello to yesterday! 😀

  6. #6 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2010 - 12:01 PM

    Its good to see khansahab taking off time on a lazy Sunday and dissected the body that came in the box. Reportedly the Pakistan team crashed in between Australia and New Zealand and there aren’t any survivors meaning NO wins. 😀 The captain has brought the black box with him because he was rescued earlier and the surprise message is, he still wants to pilot the Pakistani Taiyaara and strangely enough the loader, porter of the team also announced that he was the main culprit who stacked the boxes (players) in the wrong compartments and that is the reason the Taiyaara was off-balance and flipped over but, that doesn’t mean he is old, or unfit for the job of loading and unloading, he will still wants to be the chief porter.

    I will comment more on the subject of performance but, right now I need to jettison the excess baggage to take off, I am on my early morning routine flight and need to do some downloading and refueling 😉 until then happy flying………

  7. #7 by khansahab on February 7, 2010 - 12:13 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I think it is safe to say that SRK’s children will end up in movies. His son is already getting movie offers. And, there are many of these showbiz people like Farah Khan, Sajid Khan, Sanjay Dutt who are born of parents of different religions. They have money, fame, glamour and they are associated with an industry (Bollywood) where religion does not matter.

    More people know SRK as a Muslim, then as someone who has married a Hindu wife. And SRK always makes a point about being a Muslim. At the moment most Indians do not want to have any kind of relations with Pakistan and his statement on Pakistan is very commendable and bold. If he was not a Muslim, or if he did not have Pakistani ancestry, I don’t think he would have said what he did.

    Most of these stars drink, party- they live similar lives. Personally I don’t feel his kids will have a problem growing up in Bollywood, because Bollywood is a different world to India. In fact the union and amalgamation of Hindu and Muslim is considered a good thing in Bollywood, if considered bad outside Bollywood.

  8. #8 by khansahab on February 7, 2010 - 2:16 PM

    Malik has been named captain for the 2 T20’s being played in UAE later this year. Afridi is banned for the 1st T20 and will play as all rounder in the 2nd.

    There are reports that K Akmal has been dropped.

  9. #9 by newguy on February 7, 2010 - 4:18 PM

    Khansaheb,

    What you said about Bollywood where religion does not matter is true, in fact, if you have money & fame then none of this matters, those are the problems of middle class. Rich & famous live their own religion, the religion of money. Add to your Bollywood list another Khan – Firoz Khan who actually had no India or Pakistani blood, but he was born to an Iranian mother and Afghan father, migrated to mumbai as a child. He always looked so different from Indian or Pakistan origins, and made Hindi version of cowboy Western movies. He was one of my favorite movie makers when I was young, because his movies were different.

  10. #10 by khansahab on February 7, 2010 - 4:26 PM

    Newguy

    I saw a documentary about Feroz Khan after his death. He was half Pathan, half Persian.

    Most Pathans have Afghan blood, and a lot of Pakistani Pathans are originally from Afghanistan.

    Feroz came to Pakistan once and offended many Pakistanis by saying some negative things about Islamic extremism in the country.

  11. #11 by newguy on February 7, 2010 - 4:27 PM

    Interesting Facts and Figures: Feroz Khan

    Feroz Khan was born in Bangalore, India. His father was Sadiq Ali Khan Tanoli, who was a Pathan originally from Ghazni province of Afghanistan and his mother (Fatima) came from Iran.

    In 1965, he married Sundari, a designer and part of the Page Three circuit in Mumbai.

    They had two children together, Laila and Fardeen Khan (b. 1974). In 1985, after 20 years of marriage, he divorced his wife.

    His son married Natasha Madhwani, the daughter of his occasional on-screen lover Mumtaz. His daughter Laila is married to Indian tennis player Rohit Rajpal.

  12. #12 by 420 on February 7, 2010 - 4:33 PM

    JAK
    i shall tell u , sanjay dutt takes the cake as the biggest arsole among our actors. he tried playing cheap vote politics in UP. he told in a election rally that he was ill treated by cops bcos his mom is a muslim. can you get lower than that? sanjay dutt, salman khan should be in bars for life term for both of their deeds. it happens only in India ! there were tapes which had govinda talking to D bhai, and he was not even arrested!

  13. #13 by 420 on February 7, 2010 - 4:35 PM

    khansahab
    i donno about the pak episode of feroz, but his family has one of the best reputations in bollywood , to ma knowledge. amitabh (according to me) , has involved in many financial irregularities, along with amar singh.

  14. #14 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2010 - 4:37 PM

    khansahab & newguy

    What you both have said about Bollywood is right, I know that too but the problem is not only does their actions reflect on their own families but, also on the masses, some of them end up doing that but, they cannot be like SRK to maintain a dual life i.e., being an Aadha Teetar and Aadha Batair, in the real world which is outside Bollywood the life is different and over there, the have to choose one path and then if there is no flexibility the problems start. Anyways, I don’t want to discuss on this but, like I said, I was more interested in what SRK said in response to that question?

    As regards, Pakistan team playing in the UAE it was expected that they will not change the captain after one match so Malik would captain both matches. Malik however will be more in focus because of his captaincy and his pathetic batting will be exposed more. As regards dropping Kamran Akmal, its a bad decision. Because, if he was allowed to play the ODI’s and the T20 in Australia and he performed well, in fact better than anyone then dropping him from the PK squad for the UAE is meaningless and negative. Give him a break. He batted well and was excellent behind the stumps. Sarfaraz is definitely not the replacement, you have to find someone better than him. He still looks like a school boy and his batting especially is like that of a school boy.

    If Asif is pardoned, Akhtar is pardoned so many times, and Afridi is pardoned then why bring this wrath on Kamran Akmal? Especially when you need him and when he is playing well. In order to keep him on his toes there must be another wicketkeeper in the squad all the time but definitely not Sarfaraz.

  15. #15 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2010 - 4:41 PM

    newguy

    Yes, I agree with you that SA played very, very slow and that is one of the reasons I don’t like them because of their conservative approach, they try to play safe, its like we say: “What is the height of caution?” The answer is: “In the North West Frontier Agency, in Pakistan, when a crow is flying it always covers its ass with its wings.”

    If there was any other player from another team he would have scored faster than Kallis and Amla. Even Dravid and Jaffar would have scored faster. And, Sehwag would have completed his triple century by that time.

  16. #16 by khansahab on February 7, 2010 - 5:07 PM

    Omer

    Delhi is like Islamabad- it is not really in any “province”, but it is highly influenced by Punjabis. So I see why you think Musharraf might be a Punjabi. But, he is not- Delhi still has plenty of Urdu speakers, many of whom are descendants of officers during the Mughal time.

    There is this group called “Dehli walay saudagraan”, they are ethnic Punjabis who migrated to Delhi and became Urdu Speakers. They are considered as Urdu Speakers in the modern day. I don’t know whether Musharraf is one of those.

    I have seen Musharraf’s mother speak Urdu, and she spoke very crisply- not with an accent. If she spoke with an accent then I could have heard the following:

    “Sport” for “support” and vice versa
    “Saimb-lee” for “Assembly”
    “Yousaf, Younas, Malak, Asaf, Fooaad, Viseem, Aamar, Danash, Kiniria etc” for “Yousuf, Younus, Malik, Asif, Fawad, Wasim, Aamir, Danish, Kaneria”

    I think you get the message 🙂

    It doesn’t matter if someone was a different ethnicity generations ago. Because, if that is so, I would be a Pathan, Imran Khan would be a Pathan, half of Bollywood would be Pathan.

  17. #17 by khansahab on February 7, 2010 - 5:15 PM

    Omer

    If you notice with Punjabi people, there is usually some kind of inverse pronunciation:

    Like, if they are saying “Asif” or “Pakistan”, they will say “Asaf” and “Pakastan”

    But, if they are saying, “Kaneria, Abrar, Wasim” they are likely to say, “Kineria, Ibrar, Viseem”.

    I have noticed this in some uneducated Urdu Speakers too.

    They say, “Kirachi” for Karachi

    They say “gase” for “gas”, but they will say “platt” for “plate”.

    I don’t know why people have a tendency to mispronounce- I mean inversely?

  18. #18 by khansahab on February 7, 2010 - 11:29 PM

    Omer

    Why do you need a code of conduct? Why do you need laws and regulations to make people do something so obvious and productive such as speaking a common language?

    The 7 Punjabi players, they should themselves have the sense to realise that the Pashtu or Urdu Speaking players speak in Urdu, so they must themselves speak Urdu, too. To an unbiased person, it is no rocket science to understand that.

    This is why some people are anti-Punjab, and they think Punjabis as racist people. Because, even in social gatherings if there are 4 Punjabis and 2 non-Punjabis, the Punjabis will keep speaking to each other in Punjabi despite knowing that the others are not the same as them. You feel demoralised and ostracised automatically.

    I feel odd when they say that it’s in their culture to do this. It is in my culture, for example, to call my elders “uncle and aunty” whenever I see someone much older than me, or as old as my parents for example. But I can’t call my bosses at work by those titles, and I can’t speak to a white person like that. So, when you see people who are different to you, you should forgo your own cultural compulsions and compromise a little.

    They can’t say that, “Well why can’t these 4 non-Punjabi players speak in Punjabi with us”, simply because those 4 players are not from Punjab. But, since ALL of them can speak Urdu, they MUST speak in Urdu with each other.

  19. #19 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2010 - 11:35 PM

    “Btw are you aware of the history of Pakistan written by Aitazaz Ahsan, entitled ‘The Indus Saga’. He claims that through the book the Punjabis have been fierce defenders and no-one was able to conquer them. OMER ADMNAI.

    LOL @ Aitazaz Ahsan and his Khayass Aaraiyan (wishful thinking)

    Mahmoud Ghaznavi
    Mohammad Ghauri
    Babar,
    Humayun
    Ahmad Shah Abdali

    They all came from the North West to Delhi via Lahore. How many battles have been fought in Lahore? ZERO.

    Whereas, three (3) battles of Panipat have been fought. Panipat is in the plains of eastern Punjab the gateway to Delhi.

    The first was between Ibrahim Lodhi and Zahir uddin Mohammad Babar, the first Moghul emperor
    The second was between Hemu or Samrat Hem Chandra Vikramaditya and Jalaluddin Mohammad Akbar, the third Moghul emperor
    The third was between Ahmad Shah Abdali and the Marathas.

    In all these battles the offenders were victorious, Lodhi, Hemu and Marathas were all defeated. But, this has nothing to do with the Punjabis of Lahore. All these defenders were defending Delhi. So, my point is very valid, there was never any resistance to any conqueror from Lahore. Had there been any, Delhi would have got some breathing time as well as an opportunity to deal with the wounded aggressors whereas, they came fresh from Lahore with Khallas Doodh, Dahi and Gaye Bhains 😀

  20. #20 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2010 - 11:42 PM

    SHOAIB MALIK has once again uttered the same nonsense he did after losing the match in Melbourne. After coming back home he said, ” You always learn from your mistakes and whenever we tour Australia we always learn from here.”

    How long this idiot is going to repeat this same template? How many times has he lost and repeated this phrase like a parrot? The point is has he ever learned from his mistakes? Has he ever improved his stupid batting style? Has he ever changed his attitude? Has he ever stopped playing petty politics in the team? NEVER.

    He calls himself a profession and he also proclaims himself to be the best ALL-ROUNDER in Pakistan, has he ever thought that as a professional has he ever delivered? At this level you are all professionals and if you are not a professional then you don’t deserve to be in the team. To say we all learn from our mistakes is a bloody philosophical concept, at this level you have to deliver first and then talk about all this bullshit. As an all-rounder has he ever won a MoM award for taking 3 wickets and scoring a 50 in the same innings? How many times has he done that? As a captain he won only against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. And, he was the first captain since the last 60 years to lose a series against India in India both, test and ODI. Has he got anything to say about that?

  21. #21 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2010 - 11:52 PM

    WAQAR YOUNUS SAYS:

    Waqar Younis who was the bowling and fielding coach of the Pakistan team during the Australia series has claimed that there were non-cricketing reasons behind the teams shoddy show on tour.

    “The performance of players was not the only reason behind the poor showing. I will only spell out these reasons before the National Assembly Standing Committee on Sports. I want the committee to call me as I want to tell the people the reasons for the team’s poor performances,” Waqar was quoted in the Dawn.

  22. #22 by Mohammed Munir on February 8, 2010 - 7:12 AM

    Khansahab …

    My advance apologies for slightly deviating from the main topic here, but where is Pervez Musharraf these days ? And when is he planning to honor Pakistan with his return ?

    Hope he is ‘enjoying life’ in that 2 bedroom flat in UK, while he must be missing his newly constructed palace at Chak Shahzad, Rawalpindi.

  23. #23 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2010 - 12:21 PM

    Munir

    As far as I k now he is on a lecture mission in North America. He has a series of 42 lectures in about 4 months time. His lectures are reportedly very popular. The rumours are he will announce about his intentions whether or not to return to politics by June 2010

  24. #24 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2010 - 12:21 PM

    Munir

    As far as I k now he is on a lecture mission in North America. He has a series of 42 lectures in about 4 months time. His lectures are reportedly very popular. The rumours are he will announce about his intentions whether or not to return to politics by June 2010

  25. #25 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2010 - 12:25 PM

    newguy

    I thought that this match between India and SA will end up in a tame draw especially when Sehwag was batting he scored a century but, India is in deep trouble by the end of the 3rd day’s play. In the first innings no one but Sehwag played and in the second innings, Gambhir and Sehwag both got out and there is all the possibility of India losing this test match. Can Tendulkar play a big, big innings here? There are two full days remaining and a lot of runs are required to avoid defeat and even if they do that, how much lead is enough? Can they bat for 2 days?

  26. #26 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2010 - 12:25 PM

    newguy

    I thought that this match between India and SA will end up in a tame draw especially when Sehwag was batting he scored a century but, India is in deep trouble by the end of the 3rd day’s play. In the first innings no one but Sehwag played and in the second innings, Gambhir and Sehwag both got out and there is all the possibility of India losing this test match. Can Tendulkar play a big, big innings here? There are two full days remaining and a lot of runs are required to avoid defeat and even if they do that, how much lead is enough? Can they bat for 2 days?

  27. #27 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2010 - 12:55 PM

    And Mohammad Munir………..

    The London apartment is not 2 bedroom but, 3 bedroom and its cost is about 400-500 thousand pounds sterling. Whats the big deal? In London a few of my friends have 5-6 bedroom houses for about 800-900 thousand pounds sterling. And the palace in Chak Shahzad, Rawalpindi is not a palace but, a farm house and generally farm houses have more land than normal houses. I have seen that farm house from outside and for your info. Chak Shahzad is one of the cheapest area in Rawalpindi. Hundreds and thousands of people have better homes than Musharaff’s. Did you see where Imran Khan built his house in Islamabad? Its on a mountain and the whole mountain belongs to him. If you go and stand on the banks of the South side of Rawal Lake you will see the mountain of a house.

    As regards your next question where did he get the money to buy that? All army personnel get lands at very subsidized rates and Musharaff was a General getting that Chak Shahzad land is no biggy. Thousands of Colonels and Generals have bigger lands than that. Musharraf has written two books and they both are a big hit, his Memoirs and “In Line of Fire” it is very easy to get a few million pounds in Royalty. Perhaps you have no idea how much money one can make by writing books. The author of Harry Porter, JK Rowling become a Billionaire, if Musharraf gets a few Million one shouldn’t be surprised and from his lectures he get paid very decently. About $100K per lecture is very common these days. And, his lectures are sold out.

    Your sarcasm on Musharraf is not so amusing since you have deliberately ignored the other thugs whose only source of income is through stealing, cheating, looting, moaning, and farting … and journalists who are living on the thrown bones of these corrupt politicians are ready roll over, bend over backwards. Musharraf has declared more income and paid more tax in life than Nawaz, Shahbaz, Benazir and Zardari put together … so question should be not that where money of Musharraf has come from but, the question should be how these thugs and their puppy dogs are living a luxurious life? How come the media cannot see this and how come you guys never question on this subject?

    Perhaps, they are not aware of how Halal money is made? 😀

  28. #28 by newguy on February 8, 2010 - 1:43 PM

    Javed,

    India is going to lose the Test against SA. They are two down in 2nd innings and behind by 250+ runs, most likely it will be an innings defeat. Once they get Tendulkar and Dhoni there isn’t anyone else who can play a big innings. Think Dravid and Laxman, two of the all time greats in Indian lineup who were so much of batting backbone over the years are not there. Just a superb show of fast swing bowling from Steyn, it’s just too much for the likes of Vijay, Badri, Saha, and the lower order to handle.

  29. #29 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2010 - 3:11 PM

    There is a strong rumour that Wahab Riaz has paid Rs. 15 lakh (1.5 million rupees) to get into the team, he paid to Shafqat Rana to do that job. OMG, if this is true then, one can imagine what kinda team selectors Pakistan has.

    newguy

    That is so true. I wonder why Dravid is not in the team?

  30. #30 by newguy on February 8, 2010 - 3:37 PM

    Javed,

    Dravid is injured after having hit on the cheek by a bouncer from Shahadat Hussain in the last test against Bangladesh. I think next test both of them will be back as well as Srisanth and hopefully India can fight back with full strength team. But SA has shown determination to win in India, batting with patience and then superb bowling from Steyn.

  31. #31 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2010 - 8:09 PM

    WTF ?

    Wasim Akram Choora
    has been appointed as a member of the inquiry committee for the Australia NZ disaster tour of Pakistan cricket team. What has he got to do with this? He is ALL the time in INDIA and has no inside knowledge of what happened in Australia. So, also all other members of the committee headed by Ch2So4 Wasim Bari. This is such a farcical act to appoint these people to mislead the masses. They will come out with some weird information to jeopardize Afridi’s captaincy and to retain Malik as Captain in future. And, they will deny that there was no rift in the team, there was no disunity, there were no groupings, there was no regionalism, divisions and fractions in the team.

  32. #32 by khansahab on February 8, 2010 - 11:07 PM

    Yousuf wants to remain captain till 2011 World Cup

    PTI, 8 February 2010, 07:53pm IST

    LAHORE: Senior batsman Mohammad Yousuf, on Monday, reiterated his keenness to remain the captain of the Pakistani Test and ODI teams till the 2011 World Cup.

    Yousuf said he should be given a fair chance to prove his worth as captain in Test and One-Day internationals.

    “I was captain for just two-and-half months on two of the toughest tours in the cricket world and I think my young team did pretty well. It is only fair that I should be given a longer run to implement my plans and try to build up this team,” Yousuf said in an interview.

    Yousuf, who risks losing his captaincy after his team was swamped in Australia in all matches, said he would be happy to leave captaincy if any other team could come as close to beating Australia as Pakistan had done in the Sydney Test.

    “This constant changing and chopping of the team management and captain every time we lose a series is not good for Pakistan cricket. People and the media must understand that they need to back us. Only then can this team develop into world beaters,” Yousuf said.

    He pointed out that other teams like India, Australia and England had developed well only because of the backing they got from their board, selectors, people and the media.

    “Allow this team to prove its worth in two or three series. Don’t write us off and push for changes just because we lost in Australia. How many teams have done well in Australia in recent years?” he asked.

  33. #33 by khansahab on February 8, 2010 - 11:13 PM

    Pakistan seek foreign coach
    Karachi: Nearly 14 months after firing Australian Geoff Lawson, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is once more looking for a foreign coach.

    The Board, it appears, has begun cracking the whip for the disastrous show Down Under and the inquest has started with senior players Kamran Akmal and Salman Butt being shown the door in the Shoaib Malik-led team announced Monday for the two Twenty20 Internationals against England, to be played in Dubai.

    Coach Intikhab Alam, too, is under fire and his fate remains unclear. Intikhab will not travel with the team for the trip to Dubai and the Board did not clarify whether he had been relieved of his duties only for the two matches or permanently. His contract with the PCB runs till October.

    PCB chairman Ijaz Butt Monday confirmed on a television show that he was in talks with some foreign coaches.

    Former India coach Greg Chappell and former Pakistan coach Richard Pybus are among the names doing the rounds.

    “We are looking at the possibility of hiring a foreign coach and we are in talks with some people,” Butt said.

    “I don’t think it is right that every time we lose a series, the captain, coach or the Board management should be changed. But we also want to see good results from the team and that is why we are looking at the possibility of having a foreign coach once again,” he added.

    With Intikhab Alam, coach of the disastrous Australia tour, under scrutiny in an inquiry committee, the PCB Monday named former Test batsman Ijaz Ahmed as the batting and fielding coach for the two Twenty20 matches against England in Dubai on February 19 and 20.

  34. #34 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2010 - 1:53 AM

    What is the meaning of this:

    “We tried to convince him that only one or two Australian players will participate in the IPL matches and by not allowing all IPL matches it is the state players [Marathi players] who will lose ultimately.”

    Is IPL about Marathi players only? Then what about the Bengali, Madrasi, Punjabi players? Why not ask BAL THUG – ARRAY to form his own cricket team and play them as Maratha XI ?

    I think Indian government is spineless and impotent in front of this Thackeray guy.

  35. #35 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2010 - 1:53 AM

    What is the meaning of this:

    “We tried to convince him that only one or two Australian players will participate in the IPL matches and by not allowing all IPL matches it is the state players [Marathi players] who will lose ultimately.”

    Is IPL about Marathi players only? Then what about the Bengali, Madrasi, Punjabi players? Why not ask BAL THUG – ARRAY to form his own cricket team and play them as Maratha XI ?

    I think Indian government is spineless and impotent in front of this Thackeray guy.

  36. #36 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2010 - 2:31 AM

    An interview excerpts from Nathuram Godse’s brother Gopal Godse.

    “His Principle of Peace Was Bogus”

    Gopal Godse, co-conspirator in Gandhi’s assassination and brother of the assassin, looks back in anger–and without regret Fifty-two years ago, on Jan. 30, 1948, Mohandas Gandhi was shot dead by Nathuram Godse, a Hindu extremist. Godse believed that the Mahatma, or great soul, was responsible for the 1947 partition of India and the creation of Pakistan. Godse and his friend Narayan Apte were hanged. His brother Gopal and two others were sentenced to life imprisonment for their part in the conspiracy. Gopal Godse remained in jail for 18 years and now, at 80, lives with his wife in a small apartment in Pune. He is still proud of his role in the murder. Although Godse is largely ignored in India and rarely talks to journalists, he agreed to speak with TIME Delhi correspondent Meenakshi Ganguly.

    TIME: What happened in January 1948?

    Godse: On Jan. 20, Madanlal Pahwa exploded a bomb at Gandhi’s prayer meeting in Delhi. It was 50 m away from Gandhi. [The other conspirators] all ran away from the place. Madanlal was caught there. Then there was a tension in our minds that we had to finish the task before the police caught us. Then Nathuram [Gopal’s brother] took it on himself to do the thing. We only wanted destiny to help us — meaning we should not be caught on the spot before he acted.

    TIME: Why did you want to kill Gandhi?
    Godse: Gandhi was a hypocrite. Even after the massacre of the Hindus by the Muslims, he was happy. The more the massacres of the Hindus, the taller his flag of secularism.

    TIME: Did you ever see Gandhi?
    Godse: Yes.

    TIME: Did you attend his meetings?
    Godse: Yes.

    TIME: Can you explain how he created his mass following?
    Godse: The credit goes to him for maneuvering the media. He captured the press. That was essential. How Gandhi walked, when he smiled, how he waved — all these minor details that the people did not require were imposed upon them to create an atmosphere around Gandhi. And the more ignorant the masses, the more popular was Gandhi. So they always tried to keep the masses ignorant.

    TIME: But surely it takes more than good publicity to create a Gandhi?
    Godse: There is another thing. Generally in the Indian masses, people are attracted toward saintism. Gandhi was shrewd to use his saintdom for politics. After his death the government used him. The government knew that he was an enemy of Hindus, but they wanted to show that he was a staunch Hindu. So the first act they did was to put “Hey Ram” into Gandhi’s dead mouth.

    TIME: You mean that he did not say “Hey Ram” as he died?
    Godse: No, he did not say it. You see, it was an automatic pistol. It had a magazine for nine bullets but there were actually seven at that time. And once you pull the trigger, within a second, all the seven bullets had passed. When these bullets pass through crucial points like the heart, consciousness is finished. You have no strength.

    When Nathuram saw Gandhi was coming, he took out the pistol and folded his hands with the pistol inside it. There was one girl very close to Gandhi. He feared that he would hurt the girl. So he went forward and with his left hand pushed her aside and shot. It happened within one second. You see, there was a film and some Kingsley fellow had acted as Gandhi. Someone asked me whether Gandhi said, “Hey Ram.” I said Kingsley did say it. But Gandhi did not. Because that was not a drama.

    TIME: Many people think Gandhi deserved to be nominated TIME’s Person of the Century. [He was one of two runners-up, after Albert Einstein.]
    Godse: I name him the most cruel person for Hindus in India. The most cruel person! That is how I term him.

    TIME: Is that why Gandhi had to die?
    Godse: Yes. For months he was advising Hindus that they must never be angry with the Muslims. What sort of ahimsa (non-violence) is this? His principle of peace was bogus. In any free country, a person like him would be shot dead officially because he was encouraging the Muslims to kill Hindus.

    TIME: But his philosophy was of turning the other cheek. He felt one person had to stop the cycle of violence…
    Godse: The world does not work that way.

    TIME: Is there anything that you admire about Gandhi?
    Godse: Firstly, the mass awakening that Gandhi did. In our school days Gandhi was our idol. Secondly, he removed the fear of prison. He said it is different to go into prison for a theft and different to go in for satyagraha (civil disobedience). As youngsters, we had our enthusiasm, but we needed some channel. We took Gandhi to be our channel. We don’t repent for that.

    TIME: Did you not admire his principles of non-violence?
    Godse: Non-violence is not a principle at all. He did not follow it. In politics you cannot follow non-violence. You cannot follow honesty. Every moment, you have to give a lie. Every moment you have to take a bullet in hand and kill someone. Why was he proved to be a hypocrite? Because he was in politics with his so-called principles. Is his non-violence followed anywhere? Not in the least. Nowhere.

    TIME: What was the most difficult thing about killing Gandhi?
    Godse: The greatest hurdle before us was not that of giving up our lives or going to the gallows. It was that we would be condemned both by the government and by the public. Because the public had been kept in the dark about what harm Gandhi had done to the nation. How he had fooled them!

    TIME: Did the people condemn you?
    Godse: Yes. People in general did. Because they had been kept ignorant.

  37. #37 by Mohammed Munir on February 9, 2010 - 7:35 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Your information on Nathuram Godse and overall Shiv Sena are very interesting and it shows a rather other side of the coin, which so often is hidden from general public. India, which maintains a strong claim to secularism, has some underlying issues which they are trying to neatly dust under the carpet. The Times Delhi’s interview with Gopal Godse (brother of Nathuram Godse) has exposed the true face of Shiv Sena and how old, strong and influential they are within India. Can you also give us the date of this interview, if possible?

    While coming of our own Pervez Musharraf, I am happy for his ‘decent earnings’ by public-lectures and yes you are right so may army generals/ ex-generals have amassed huge funds and many free lands. Yeh Unka Bhee Mulk Hai, so why should only Politians loot it, Army also have full right to it.

  38. #38 by khansahab on February 9, 2010 - 7:14 PM

    Whoever thinks there is no regionalism should get a kick on their backside.

    Afridi has openly told Dawn News that his ball tampering issue has been blown out of proportion in Pakistan by those people who only want to see a captain from Punjab.

    It must be remembered that after Younis’s appointment as captain Afridi gave a statement saying that he likes Younis because Younis does not select players based on provincial background.

  39. #39 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 10, 2010 - 2:33 AM

    khansahab

    “TaOny Graig” and Sanjay Manjrekar have written (discussed) articles about ball tampering on cricinfo.

    Taony has said ball tampering is an open secret, Manjrekar has said that the laws of ball tampering needs to be re-written.

    Someone else has made a very valid point and it must be viewed with an open mind. He said, the law is absolutely ridiculous and needs to be viewed with an open mind. According to the law, changing or altering the condition of the ball to swing is illegal. Only one side of the coin has been taken into consideration i.e., if the ball is scuffed, by any metal, dirt, or any other sharp object or, any lotion such as Vaseline, jellybeans or any cream is used or, if the ball is rubbed on the ground to rough it out, it is called ball tampering.

    The other side of the coin is taken for granted i.e., applying saliva on the ball, rubbing it on the trousers or using a small towel to bring more shine is OK, it is not illegal. Isn’t this law self negating?

    When you open your eyes and see it from a new perspective it does seem like that. Why are the bowlers openly allowed to rub one side of the ball to bring back the shine or use a small towel to rub it as much as they can, and not just the bowler, but a couple of other fielders who are near the bowler also do this. They apply a lot of saliva and keep rubbing it. You can see the red cherry marks on white trousers.

    The first person to object this rubbing of the ball on the thighs was not a cricketer but, a Moulvi. I think it was Dr. Israr Ahmad, he said, rubbing and spitting on the ball is obscene especially if the ball is rubbed on his thighs the women watching him on TV gets aroused so this must be banned! 😀 I am not kidding, but he actually said this and I have read somewhere on the Internet long ago. My response to that is, if it is obscene for them, they better not watch. And, Dr. Israr Ahmad must spend more time doing tableegh than criticizing about rubbing the ball on a bowler’s groin.

  40. #40 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 10, 2010 - 2:37 AM

    Munir,

    That interview took place 3-4 years ago and when I read that, I copy pasted it in one of the files just for records, because if you save the URL in favourites sometimes they delete such websites or they may not have paid the web fees or not renewed the web in that case too the articles disappear. I only have a copy not a URL. But, it is authentic, perhaps it is still there on TIME and you may Google it and see, perhaps you can find it. As regards the Indian journalist Supriya Roy Chowdhury who writes for The Hindu, here is the link:

    http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2003/02/04/stories/2003020400561000.htm

  41. #41 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 10, 2010 - 2:44 AM

    Munir

    BTW, that land Musharraf built a farm in Chak Shahzad was NOT a grant like army officers get. I did mention that army officers do get lands at subsidized rates and we all know that Defense Society, Bahriya and Shaheen or Falcon Complex etc., are an example. And, Musharraf bought that land and did not get it for free. In terms of dollars it is only $500,000, once again for a person who is earning $350K per lecture it is nothing. So, you may save your taunts and sarcasm (jo tum nay Shaal may lapait ker maaray hain) for another appropriate time :D.

  42. #42 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 10, 2010 - 2:46 AM

    India haar gayee tou newguy bhee ghayeb ho gaya! Array bhai vapis ajao koi kuch nahee kehay ga. Look at us we have lost 2 series and not won a single match and we are here with such Dhattai 😀 BaKaoz V R Like this Won Lee.

  43. #43 by newguy on February 10, 2010 - 3:19 AM

    Javed,

    I’m here, India losing is in one way good, for one they won’t get carried away, especially the media and the people will not forget the real standing of the team in the world. I tend to look at things in balance, I think they are still a very good team, just not world beaters. SA played very good cricket and they had one bowler in Steyn who got everything going for him in one session of superb reverse swing and his conventional swing bowling was awesome too. But fast bowlers won’t get consistency like that always, in the last home series against England SA failed to take tail end wickets, including Steyn.

    As for Indians, they need to work harder and fight harder, have hunger for win. If they do that no reason they cannot come back in next test.

    Ultimately however what matters to me is if they can win a series in SA and Australia. They are far from it.

    As for Pakistan, I lost interest in following them honestly, with all the politics and team performance turning from worse to worst down under.

  44. #44 by khansahab on February 10, 2010 - 7:57 PM

    PCB snubbed Afridi and Malik while picking Twenty20 squad
    Wednesday, February 10, 2010
    By our correspondent

    KARACHI: Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) decided to snub Shahid Afridi and Shoaib Malik while selecting a 14-man touring party for a brief Twenty20 International series against England in Dubai as it opted not to take their inputs before finalising the squad.

    ‘The News’ learnt here through well-placed sources on Tuesday that the PCB selection committee, which was headed by the Board chairman Ijaz Butt in the absence of a chief selector, decided against consulting Afridi, who is Pakistan’s regular Twenty20 captain before finalising the team for the two-match series against England.

    Even Shoaib Malik, who has been named as captain for the two matches to be played at the Dubai Sports City on February 18 and 18 was ignored as the selectors opted to finalise the team without seeking his input.

    It has become common practice in recent times that the selectors give a lot of weight to the views of the captain while picking the national team.

    Normally what happens is that the selection committee asks the team captain to brief them about the players he wants in his side. If the captain is strong enough, he is able to get the team of his choice otherwise a consensus is developed within the selectors and the team management before deciding the squad.

    Sources said that if Afridi had any say in the selection process, he would have recommended the inclusion of young fast bowler Sohail Khan and experienced all-rounder Mohammad Hafeez in the Dubai-bound squad.

    “The thing is that the Twenty20 World Cup is less than three months away and Pakistan will not be playing many matches before it,” said a source. “Since the Board has made it clear that Afridi will be leading Pakistan in the Twenty20 World Cup, it would have been better to have his input before selecting the team.”

    Pakistan, who won the ICC World Twenty20 title in England last June, will be defending the crown in the 2010 tournament to be held in the Caribbean this May.

    Sources within the PCB said that the selectors did not seek Afridi’s opinion because he is currently facing an inquiry into a ball-tampering incident. Afridi was caught by television cameras as he chewed the ball during Pakistan’s fifth and final One-day International against Australia in Perth last week. He was banned for two Twenty20 Internationals by the International Cricket Council (ICC) for ball-tampering.

  45. #45 by 420 on February 11, 2010 - 12:52 AM

    hmm, as expected we lost.now dhoni will keep his feet on ground. from the day he said yuvi is better batsman than dravid,i wished he see the reality. mishra,sharma, bhajji need to be shown the door. not that we have better players than them, but they have to realize the place has to be earned! hope it wont be 0-2 😦

  46. #46 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2010 - 1:18 AM

    newguy

    accha theek hai theek hai, we know you are here! 😀 And, once again Tendulkar’s ton in vain. He could not save the match, winning was only a dream. They played only 4 days and lost by an innings. However, I am sure with Dravid coming back in the team, they will play better in the second test.

    420

    Yeah, Dhoni needs introspection and self-assessment audit, bahot ooncha urr reha hai, apart from Zaheer Khan none of the bowlers were impressive. Harbhajan should be singing Bhajans and eating Pao Bhaji, a tutt poonjia like Harris was able to make such a difference and a specialist in his own backyard was ineffective.

  47. #47 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2010 - 2:23 AM

    Its good that Greg Chappell declined the offer to coach Pakistan team, especially after seeing how Ijaz Butt ridiculed and insulted Lawson.

    Yousuf’s interview is very contrasting to his personality, he was a bit blunt yet he did not mention the name of the player but, we all know it was Misbah. I liked the way he mentioned about Umar Akmal: ” Umar was fine as far as I knew. What happened in his room and how he got a stiff back all of a sudden was a surprise to me. He miraculously recovered as soon as we told him that he would be going home,” Yousuf said with a grin on face.

  48. #48 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2010 - 2:39 AM

    We are copy pasting the article appeared in The Daily, The News, written by Mr. Malik Arshed Gilani. We are highlighting the points Mr. Gilani has written in his article because, we have been saying the same thing again and again but to no avail and we are glad that Mr. Gilani has written it in The News and it will get the attention of at least a few, because Ijaz Butt does not have time to read perhaps he never reads, he prefers to sleep in the meetings and that too during the Ministry of Sports Committee meeting which was specifically held for this purpose. Mr. Butt has proved that even when he comes to a meeting with an avowed purpose to answer the questions raised by the committee, instead of listening to them he was caught dozing off twice. Should we not ask for his ouster? We have been doing this since a very long time, asking him to leave but there seems to be a layer of super glue under his Butt which is stuck to his chair.

    Does PCB know the population of Pakistan?
    Thursday, February 11, 2010
    By Malik Arshed Gilani

    I am not sectarian, or political or provincial. Having lived in Sindh for some 50 plus years, I hope I can say without contradiction that I am now a Sindhi and be accepted as such. Should it interest anybody I hail from Khushab not far from Mianwali, Imran Khan’s ancestral town, and that is as Punjab as it gets? But my loyalty is with my new home in Karachi Sindh. Above all else I am first a Pakistani.

    I state all the above and have chosen the title of this Article deliberately because of the present PCB Chairman. I understand he comes from Sialkot and since he has taken over it appears that the PCB’s horizon is first limited to the area from which the chairman hails, then Lahore and then Punjab. To be selected to serve the PCB the premier conditions appear to be; you must be a septuagenarian like the chairman and have known him and have colluded with him through his past associations with cricket. Failing this one needs to hail from the Punjab and preferably Sialkot and then Lahore.

    Through this article, I would remind him that Pakistan has a population of 170 million people. It has great cricketers and fine cricket administrators in all four provinces of this fine country. Highly educated, knowledgeable and competent people exist who can perform the duties of manager and coach to the Pakistan team. May I hasten to add that Ijaz Ahmed has done well with the junior team but, I repeat, we are a big country and appointing Yawar Saeed whose past performance and age should have precluded him as manager reeks of favoritism.

    In the case of the coach, just good thinking should have made this chairman realise that this appointment would be resented by the other provinces and again smells of provincialism. In addition one feels that Ijaz needs to cement his skills with the junior team. May I add Sindh has some very competent individuals who can leave Yawar Saeed standing and others who could match the great Ijaz Ahmed.

    It appears that the PCB is hell bent on proving to the world that Pakistan’s national conscience has become so tainted that we take no notice of what one could term as cheating by our top cricketers. The proof of this opinion is the latest appointment of Shoaib Malik as captain. He is a self confessed and admitted match fixer. Have we now reached so far down the barrel that all we find and select are such individuals? Just what message does the chairman and the PCB want to give to our young cricketers and the world at large? The past should have been taken note of by the chairman who also chaired the selection committee. There are principles that must not be compromised. I am sure he ignored the fact that the player comes from Sialkot!

    To then state that Afridi is waiting in the wings to take over as captain is adding insult to Pakistan’s injury. I admire Afridi’s talent and skill but he committed an act which can be termed as cheating, knowingly and in full view of some 27 cameras. It was a knowing deliberate act and wide opinion holds somewhat justifiably, that it was done with very doubtful motives. Having first stated that the PCB will conduct its own inquiry to then state that he will take over after his ICC ban is over is passing judgment on an unforgivable act even before the trial has been held.

    Mr. Chairman you are damning Pakistan cricket and worst still Pakistan in the eyes of the world as supporting illegal behavior on the cricket field thus adding grist to the mill which wants to highlight such matters. You of your own volition have appointed and ‘disappointed’ some of our finest cricketers rudely and for no good reason. In one case the Patron saw fit to order the re appointment of one these greats against whom you continue an unseemly tirade in the press. You continue to act in a manner which seems to suggest that there is neither accountability nor love left for Pakistan cricket.

    For the love of all that is holy, have we totally lost it?

  49. #49 by newguy on February 11, 2010 - 2:47 AM

    Javed,

    Dhoni is doing OK as captain, he is not a great test player, but he should be judged as a wicketkeeper batsman in Tests. Looking from that angle you can’t say Dinesh Karthik or any other keeper is better than Dhoni, he executes team plans as they are designed in the strategy sessions reasonably well.

    It’s important to look at overall team performance against all oppositions and not just in the light of the most recent match.

    SA is a very good team and they have the right skills to win in the sub-continent, their batsmens like Kallis and Amla have almost sub-continental qualities, you can say Kallis is like another Dravid and Amla I understand is a Pakistani descent, and he is is very wristy batsman like Laxman.

    In the bowling dept too SA has in Steyn who can use swing bowling well, but these things need to observed in the light of a whole series.

    This is where sub-continental fans gets carried away. One loss and they are thinking the series is going to be 2-0 and one win they are thinking they are top of the world.

    I tend to look at things in balance. As I said before India has improved very much, they are not the top team, and they are not going to win all matches against top teams, but they will win more matches than they lose. It is going to be same case for SA and Aus too. SA probably slightly better team than India given they have Steyn, I am not really impressed with other bowlers. Their batting though is top quality, almost as good as Indians. Australian batting is not that great these days.

  50. #50 by newguy on February 11, 2010 - 2:49 AM

    Javed,

    It’s a good thing for Pakistan cricket that Greg Chappel declined coaching job. He will finish off Pakistan team and make sure they end up in bottom with his process and laptop and what not.

  51. #51 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2010 - 3:07 AM

    I never said, Karthik is better keeper than Dhoni. Karthik is in good form and his inclusion in the team is a good decision and I also wrote that he is a good fielder. I am not sure if Dhoni throws his gloves he would be as fast and as agile as Karthik is, but that is another matter, we were talking of Captaincy and Karthik is not the same.

    There are times when Dhoni’s judgment is flawed and you can see the Yuvraj case. And, sometimes he gets carried away but, I am not saying he is a bad captain. Every person reaches to his level of incompetence so based on that, I said, he needs to keep his feet on the ground rather than start flying high. His batting form is needs to be checked and improved. And, who says he is not a good test player, what is his test average?

    newguy

    I know why you have said that about Greg Chappell? Once bitten twice shy, he created a rift between Ganguly and the other players and then Dravid too was dragged in it and there was certainly divide and rule method applied by him. But, who is to be blamed for that? Obviously the players. If they want to trust the coach so much that they start playing politics then this was bound to happen. A coach should be highlighting their strengths and weaknesses and he should be honing their skills and he should be planning a strategy for the team, not just a strategy but, plans and back up plans to counter the sudden changes in the game. He should not be sleeping behind the dark glasses. But, in no way the players should try to confide in him and start backbiting other players, then it will happen, I mean whatever happened between Greg Chappell and Indian players. Then, Ganguly tried to use his Kolkata clout against him, it all ended in bad taste, a guy in Cuttack slapped Greg Chappell, that was bad and a serious lapse in security.

    However, I am glad that he refused Butt’s call. Because, Butt is a black hole where, even light cannot escape! 😀

  52. #52 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2010 - 3:16 AM

    Guys, its 10:15 pm not my usual time to hit the sack, but I have to get up very early tomorrow, besides I am very tired, so I am off, take care have fun. In a few hours from now khansahab would be taking over the role of updating comments so keep on writing.

  53. #53 by newguy on February 11, 2010 - 3:21 AM

    Javed,

    I agree Karthik is a good fielder and he is a positive addition to the team, as 12th man, reserve, whatever. I don’t know why they dropped him after Bangladesh tour, he did nothing wrong there, I think it’s only regionalism, Saha is from Bengal and they had to give an East Zone player some chance.

    As for Dhoni, yes, agree, he need to keep his feet on the ground, but he like Youvraj so much :), may be it’s because of the age factor, they both play in ODI together so much, many innings where Dhoni and Youvraj played and won matches, everyone has their comfort level.

    As for Greg Chappel, I think he is too strong and too arrogant. Just my opinion. If it’s a good coach Pakistan need, why go for a gora, why not Wasim Akram or Imran Khan. I don’t understand why Imran can’t get involved in cricket and fix things instead of running after politics where he is nothing anyway.

  54. #54 by newguy on February 11, 2010 - 3:35 AM

    Javed,

    One more thing, about Greg Chappel getting a thappad with a chappal 🙂 I think it was about time one of the gora saabs got one from desis. I mean, they have been giving it for long long, weren’t they, one poor desi waala thought I’ll give one back after ages of domination by gora saabs 🙂

  55. #55 by 420 on February 11, 2010 - 3:46 AM

    //This is the first time India has lost under Dhoni so that says something about his tactical skills./

    i dont agree with this stmt. he was lucky that under him viru-gambhir combo was at its peak. not to forget the ever reliable middle order. the only good thing about dhoni is his attitude with respect to batting. he is no more a hit or miss player like he was before. he doesnt play anymore to entertain, he plays for the team according to the situation. but i still am yet to see a great test knock and great test captaincy from dhoni.

  56. #56 by 420 on February 11, 2010 - 3:50 AM

    //One loss and they are thinking the series is going to be 2-0 and one win they are thinking they are top of the world.//

    newguy
    the best i expected was a 1-1. forget about the aussie critics, i neva thought we deserved the #1 ranking till we beat aus in aus, SA in SA. these are the only worthy test teams at the moment. england is good in patches only

  57. #57 by amir on February 11, 2010 - 8:01 AM

    OMER i think pakistan should go for micky arther. He had just resigned as sa coach and did excellent job in nourishing new talents like amla and devilliers and then winning matches too. And best of all he is used to politics withen sa cricket and should be able to control all politics in pakistan team. An aussie coach wil be to strong for pakistan cricket as aussies like to do things thier own way and all our players are matured in thier bad habits and its difficult to change them i think what pcb should do is to put australian coach at junior level who can teach young players work ethics and put winning mentality and tactical awarenes in them so when they reach at national levels they are good enough to compete and win matches.

  58. #58 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2010 - 10:42 AM

    newguy

    As for Imran Khan, he thinks he is way above these petty positions. He is aiming for the top seat of Pakistan. He wants to be the President or the leading Prime Minister and not a chairman of the PCB. And, I don’t think he will ever achieve the highest position in Pakistan because, since he entered politics in 1992 he has reached no where. (you have also said, he is running after politics where he is nothing anyway) If you look at his political party Tehrik-e-Insaaf, there is no one BUT him. As a cricketer he was a dictator, in the hospital project he was a dictator and now in his political party too, he is a dictator.

    After getting fed up with the political thugs and crooks and army generals most educated people in Pakistan wanted to see him to lead the country i.e., when he entered into politics. And, I was one of his staunch supporters. But, after seeing him for the last 18 years, he seems to have no mass, no substance, no diplomacy, no real manifest for the party that he can stick to and say this is it, we want this. But, he keeps negating his own statements and of late he has been giving very loose statements which were not expected from him. Especially the one against Babar Ghauri, a young worker of the MQM party. That was so racist of Imran Khan. Also he said, that Einstein’s equation E=MC2 is nothing but farce only to strengthen the Zionist propaganda. All this is a totally different subject so lets not get into this. In just a few words, he is not fit for the job because, he doesn’t want it.

    And, Wasim Akram, I think you guys should keep him in India, give him citizenship and he will be happy. He has no loyalties with Pakistan, he is only loyal to money and that’s it. He was the biggest match fixer, if its a secret then its an open one. Because the whole world knows about it. When he was approached by young Pakistani fast bowlers to help them in correcting with their fast bowling actions or to give some tips he asked them rudely to buzz off and suggested they should go to the PCB and ask them (Mohammad Akram, an ex-test player, TV commentator said this in a TV interview how Wasim Akram ridiculed and insulted him and other players). Whereas, in front of the TV cameras in Australia, he openly helped Irfan Pathan with his bowling action. When the PCB was looking for a bowling coach Waqar Younus came forward, whereas Wasim Akram asked the PCB to first create a fast bowlers fund and make him whole and sole in-charge of it. For him it is the cart first and horse later. He was and still is, a very greedy person.

  59. #59 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2010 - 10:49 AM

    I would like to back up 420‘s point that under Dhoni, India has some real good batsmen, perhaps the best ever. The dependable opening pair, the strong middle order, good spinners and a decent fast bowling pair. Himself a good wicketkeeper but, he has not scored a real big innings so far, which is very much needed occasionally because, how long will Tendulkar be scoring centuries and Dravid will be there as a Great Wall of India? Or, how long Laxman could play an innings like he did against Australia? You cannot expect this from Yuvraj or Raina in test. Once these greats retire, Dhoni will be in shallow waters, unless he pulls up his sleeves and play like either one of them on a regular and consistent basis and also pull off a great test win from under the jaws of defeat like Ricky.

  60. #60 by newguy on February 11, 2010 - 5:46 PM

    420,

    I would not say Aus and SA are the only worth teams at present, India need to beat Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka which is the next tour for Indians. Last time India lost 2-1, flummoxed by M&M, we’ll have to see what awaits them this time as Lankans will roar like Lions on home turf. Don’t expect a repeat of 2-0 which India achieved at home against them.

    As for England, you said they are good in patches, well guess what they won Ashes defeating Australia in England and they drew with SA in SA, both teams you consider as top. They are a good team in home conditions and they played better than India did in SA when they toured last.

    In fact, India has tough tours lined up this year, they are to visit SA later in the year. Both SL series and SA series will tell true standing on Indian team.

    Overall SA, Aus, Ind, SL, Eng are competing well in no particular order. Only teams lagging at test level now are Pak, NZ, WI, and Bang, again in no particular order.

    As for expectation, I would expect India to defeat SA 2-0 at home and win series away. There is a difference between expectation and hope, my expectation for them is high, I don’t settle for drawn series, but I know it’s not easy. Unless you start dreaming big you can’t win the big matches. Ultimately it’s not so much about, talent, it’s also self belief and determination too.

  61. #61 by newguy on February 11, 2010 - 5:52 PM

    Javed,

    You are right, once the big guys reture there will be problems. But I will let selectors and team worry about that transition. Any transition is going to be tough, and they will lose many matches, so be it. That is how they learn and re-build, so long as they can do it within a reasonable period, say 12 to 18 months.

    Dhoni is lucky to have a good combination working for him, stable openers (a big factor for any winning team), solid middle order, a good fast bowler, a good spinner, decent backup bowlers, and let’s not forget coaching and support staff. So, yes, he is enjoying a combination of everything that is working well for him, but you still need to execute plans well and carry the team. He is doing well in this regard, he is no maverick, but he is doing decent job, and his keeping is fine. As a batsman I expect him to do better than most keepers. In my view, he has 3 roles, in no particular order, keeper, batsman, and captain. If he does 2 out of the 3 roles well but lags a bit in one of the roles, I could still say he is OK, so long as it’s not a cronic problem. For instance, he can keep low batting average one series so long as he captains well and keeps well, provided he catches up with his batting next series.

  62. #62 by khansahab on February 11, 2010 - 11:06 PM

    PCB urged to reward more regional players

    KARACHI: Former Pakistan captain and wicketkeeper Rashid Latif has called for a quota system to boost the number of national team players from smaller cities.

    “Pakistan is a big country of over 160 million people, but we mostly see players from Karachi and Lahore wearing the green cap,” Latif told the Associated Press on Wednesday.

    “I know these (big) cities have thousands of talented players, but why are we neglecting rest of the country?” he said.

    “The PCB can give Lahore and Karachi 70 per cent of representation in the national team, but please look out for the remaining 30 percent from smaller cities.”

    The top management of country’s cricket board is under severe scrutiny after Pakistan was whitewashed in both Test and one-day series on its tour of Australia.

    “We have witnessed many captains and chairmen in the past ten years but the performance (of the national team) has not improved, “ Latif said.

    “Changing personalities will not solve the problem, we have to utilise the talent in smaller cities.”

    In the past 11 years, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has had four chairmen and in just 12 months, the national team have had four captains across Test, one-day and Twenty20.

    Latif, who played 37 Tests and 166 One-day Internationals before retiring in 2003, runs a cricket academy which has produced Test players like Younis Khan, Asim Kamal, Khurram Manzoor and Khalid Latif.

    Recently he opened another academy in Haripur. He also plans to open two other academies this year — in Multan and Sukkur.

    Latif said the national team was being held back by a failure to reward the strong performances of regional players in the domestic competitions.

    “If countries like South Africa and India can practice it, then why can’t we try it in Pakistan?”

    Latif said such quotas could be extended to apply to off-field positions too.

    “The proposed methodology should not be confined to the players but should also be extended to the team officials,” Latif said.

    “It would provide people from other parts of the country with an opportunity to serve and benefit the sport in Pakistan.”

  63. #63 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2010 - 1:59 AM

    Naseem Hameed the fastest female runner of South East Asia, has brought laurels to the country when their cricketing heroes have lost every single match they played on this NZ Australia tour. While Naseem is going through a phase of euphoria and everyone is rejoicing at her unique achievement, Zafar Iqbal a male athlete from Pakistan started nagging like a female. He complained that Naseem got warm reception at the airport while he was ignored and it is just because she is from Karachi and he is from Sargodha. What a dumb athlete he is, instead of brooding and nagging he too should have joined the celebrations at the airport by saying, she is the first female athlete to bring a gold medal for Pakistan in this event and we are all proud of her. But whiners are whiners and you know where they come from? 😉

    http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=223864

  64. #64 by 420 on February 12, 2010 - 3:48 AM

    //As for England, you said they are good in patches, well guess what they won Ashes defeating Australia in England and they drew with SA in SA, both teams you consider as top.//

    I would not worry about the end result. England escaped 2 defeats by sheer luck in SA. And AUS was at the rock bottom during the ashes.About SL, they are yet to win a test in AUS/SA?

    Quality of test sides have decreased drastically. India held on to it/improved lil, which makes them seem better.

    As much as I hate ponting and the Aussie domination, I really wish India has their fighting spirit.With a Z grade team they beat India 4-2 in the last ODI series!

  65. #65 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2010 - 1:22 PM

    Who says Zardari doesn’t take interest in sports?

    Check out this link:

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/sport/03-pakistan-makes-women-winners-ambassadors-ss-06

    He was quick in appointing Naseem Hameed and Sara Nasir as ambassador of sports. So, the point is he is deliberately ignoring cricket.

  66. #66 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2010 - 1:32 PM

    Team Manager Raqeeb ul Hasan’s official report:

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/cricket/03-captaincy-discipline-problems-led-to-pakistan-defeats-ss-05

    I am highlighting only TWO points from that report, because I have just written about these two (Umar Akmal and Mohammad Aamer) not to make them captain at this stage and here is an example of their behaviour and rude attitude towards seniors, I was not aware of Gul and Aamer incident, but I was aware of Aamer and Younus Khan’s altercation when Younus as a captain asked him to bowl according to the field and he responded by saying, people consider me as a next Wasim Akram and you are advising me how to bowl? :

    1. The report also mentioned a heated argument between pacemen Umar Gul and Mohammad Aamir during the second Test in Wellington.

    “Since Gul is very experienced cricketer, Aamir should not have confronted him in the field. However in my opinion both the players acted in an irresponsible manner. As such I have taken the action and fined one hundred thousand rupees (1,200 dollars) each,” Raqeeb said in the report.

    2. In an another incident of ill-discipline, young batsman Umar Akmal was blamed for giving a media interview without the manager’s permission before the Hobart Test when he was undergoing examination for apparent back strain.

    “The committee is requested to assess the entire situation and impose a heavy fine on Akmal so that he can become a lesson to others.”

  67. #67 by newguy on February 12, 2010 - 2:43 PM

    420 :
    I would not worry about the end result. England escaped 2 defeats by sheer luck in SA. And AUS was at the rock bottom during the ashes.About SL, they are yet to win a test in AUS/SA?

    As much as I hate ponting and the Aussie domination, I really wish India has their fighting spirit.With a Z grade team they beat India 4-2 in the last ODI series!

    You made two statements here which contradict each other. On one hand you are saying England defeating Australia did not matter since Australia were at the rock bottom (you forgot they just won a Test series in SA just a couple of months back). Then you go on to say they beat India with even worse team (Z grade) 4-2. Which one is it? Australia is a Z grade team that can beat India in India, but then England beat them in Ashes that did not count? Does that make India worse than England. LOL.

    About the Aussie fighting spirit. I hear many Indians fans complain about India cricket team not having this, I would say this is a culture that Aussies as a society has built, not just their cricket team. You don’t join a cricket team and get trained on being tough. Indians need to have a culture of sports and toughness, as such Cricket is not a very athletic sports, many Indian kids play only cricket from childhood and they are not very athletic. They are afraid of getting hurt, it’s not the same with many western cultures, they play different kinds of sports from childhood and they are not afraid of getting hurt. Aussies are a tough breed as a society, so you can’t hope Indians get that culture. Instead, Indians need to focus on what they can do better and win the matches with their unique brand of cricket.

    I don’t think they are far too off. We’ll see by end of year, how this team is progressing. As I said earlier you have to look at things over period of time, not just one or two series.

  68. #68 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2010 - 2:58 PM

    Bangladesh is the top team in the list of all the nations who lost all 10 international matches in a series they played and, Pakistan is also in the same league except that they played 9 matches and lost all.

    Au Contraire, Pakistan is also the only other team besides Australia to have won all 8 international matches they played but that was in 1989-90 when they played against Australia, India, New Zealand, Sri Lanka and West Indies in Sharjah. That was Imran Khan’s team with Javed Miandad the key player and the team eventually won the 1992 WC in Australia without Saeed Anwar and without Waqar Younus.

    The team needs a good leader, as far as talent is concerned it is in abundance and even now they have very talented players they need to be harnessed, honed and controlled. For this, Pakistan needs a very good professional Chairman at the PCB who choose the right selectors and the right captain who plays the right combination of a team in terms of batting order and in terms of their effectiveness on a certain ground (whether suitable for fast bowling or spin bowling) that is suitable for tests, ODI’s and T20’s.

  69. #69 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2010 - 3:02 PM

    420 and newguy

    You two have been saying that Australia, India and SA are the best test teams but, the best team Australia were so close to lose the series against this so-called pathetic, depleted, dis-grunted, disunited and inexperienced team, had there been good captaincy they would have won both the series for sure. However, the same team if they play against India they will be a different team altogether, so please don’t rule out Pakistan based on this tours performance.

  70. #70 by newguy on February 12, 2010 - 3:13 PM

    JAVED A. KHAN :
    420 and newguy

    You two have been saying that Australia, India and SA are the best test teams but, the best team Australia were so close to lose the series against this so-called pathetic, depleted, dis-grunted, disunited and inexperienced team, had there been good captaincy they would have won both the series for sure. However, the same team if they play against India they will be a different team altogether, so please don’t rule out Pakistan based on this tours performance.

    Javed,

    Where did I say that?

    In fact, I have been saying that England and Sri Lanka are also very good test teams at the moment. Australia could have very much lost a Test or two if only Pakistan had the will to go a bit further, and Australia almost lost to West Indies one test. England drew against SA in SA recently. India could lose to Sri Lanka in the upcoming tour of SL.

    So, I am essentially saying what most people who follow cricket knows now, that there is no one top team or top three teams, instead there are five or six teams that could beat each other if they only try a bit more harder.

  71. #71 by newguy on February 12, 2010 - 3:16 PM

    Javed,

    As a matter of fact you will remember that I thought Pakistan was a good team capable of winning at least one test in both NZ and Aus, and while they won in NZ and came close to winning one in Aus, their infighting, lack of good leadership, and other off field issues made them lose pathetically. So, I am not ruling them out on skills, but at the moment there is so much politics going on it’s hard to judge where this team stands. But then there is always such things going on with Pakistan team and that is when they surprise you.

  72. #72 by khansahab on February 12, 2010 - 8:44 PM

    Rashid backs Sarfaraz as wicketkeeper national team

    ISLAMABAD, Feb 12 (APP): Former skipper national cricket team and wicketkeeper batsman Rashid Latif has backed Sarfaraz Ahmad as wicketkeeper for the national cricket team saying, “he will be the better choice for upcoming Twenty20 World Cup.”

    “Sarfaraz is a better batsman than Kamran Akmal, which is also evident from his first class record,” he said talking in a Geo Super programme.

    Rashid said that he had advised Kamran to take rest for a while from international cricket.

    He also claimed that there was grouping in Pakistan team, which was ruining it’s performance. He said that only a winning team could produce some great players.

    “A team, who often face defeats can never produce great players,” he added.

    Rashid Latif is also launching the most lucrative club tournament in Karachi with the help of city government. The Karachi Champions League, a Twenty20 league, for the leading clubs of the city will start with Rs 10 million as the top prize for the winners. The tournament is a brainchild of Rashid.

    The Rashid Latif Cricket Academy (RLCA) will feature a number of Karachi-based international players, as well as a host of domestic cricketers in the tournament.

  73. #73 by 420 on February 13, 2010 - 12:46 AM

    JAK
    i guess PAK raises its game against India and AUS.From the 92 WC, i have realized it many a time

  74. #74 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2010 - 1:13 AM

    newguy

    I thought you said something earlier that India and Aus are the two top test teams, which they are at the moment or is it SA and not Aus? Anyways, top three……. never mind. And, based on that I wrote that Pak plays well against India. Khair, lets not argue on this. The most important thing is the team needs a test captain. If they make Afridi captain of T20 and ODI’s then they should ask him to take care of the test side as well or buzz off go and bite more balls, white, red, brown whichever he likes. 😉 And, even before that Butt needs to be butted out. I am copy pasting yet another new article on Butt’s ouster in the next comment.

  75. #75 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2010 - 1:14 AM

    The immoveable Mr Butt
    There is only one way to oust the Pakistan board president. Catch him napping
    Imran Yusuf
    February 12, 2010

    Stay or go? Sorry, you’re going to have to speak up © PA Photos

    Compared to Ijaz Butt, previous Pakistani dictators look lightweight.

    We got rid of them all, eventually, but it seems nothing can dislodge Mr Butt. He’s been in charge for almost a year and a half now, a year and a half of incompetence, lies, blunders, nail-biting, back-biting, ball-biting, and worst of all, for some unfortunate Sri Lankans, the biting of real live bullets.

    The fact is, Pakistanis care much more about cricket than democracy, making Butt’s staying powers all the more amazing. A year and a half as a useless chairman of the PCB is equivalent to a decade and a half as a useless leader of the government. Butt is more durable than any of the Generals: Musharraf, Zia, and even our first one, Ayub Khan. It’s official.

    There’s no doubt that Butt is his own man in every way. Even the resolute Musharraf had to give up his uniform, but Butt refuses to change out of that ill-fitting grey-brown suit. Reports he was once seen in a tan linen number are obviously wild rumours with no basis in fact, and I bet one could trace their scandalous origins to Javed Miandad. Let’s face it, the chairman just doesn’t give a damn. Talk to the hand cos the Butt ain’t listening.

    You’ve got to give it to him, the man’s as fearless as Viv Richards and Shahid Afridi rolled into one. I once saw Butt thud around Karachi airport without any security. The 80s autocrat General Zia was eventually assassinated, but nobody would ever touch Butt. There’d be no point. He’d survive a nuclear holocaust. Perhaps he’s our secret weapon for a future war.

    Ayub was toppled by a six-month popular revolt but the best we can do for an uprising against Butt is form a parliamentary standing committee. We don’t even have the will power to sit the man down: he will not be moved, and we know it.

    Mr Butt, I salute you. You are here to stay. There’s nothing we can do…

    …except one thing. The word is, Butt slept during a meeting last week. People, listen up, getting to the chairman when he’s unconscious may be our only hope. If the chance comes again, do not let it pass. Pick him up (this may require manpower), carry him out (serious manpower), thank him for the memories, and then, please, for the love of God, let’s get on with putting together a decent cricket team.

    (If you were expecting me to end with a gag, please refer to match reports from the recent Australia tour. The whitewashes were one thing – actually two things, and three if we include the solitary Twenty20 – but Afridi munching on the ball really took the biscuit. Things are beyond a joke. Or they are a joke I don’t get. I mean, biting the ball, on live TV, twice? Something tells me there are bigger, deeper problems in Pakistan cricket than Ijaz Butt, but you gotta start somewhere. Over and out.)

    Imran Yusuf works for the Express Tribune, an English-language newspaper in Pakistan

  76. #76 by newguy on February 13, 2010 - 1:41 AM

    Omer,

    Tennis is an individual game, let’s just discuss team sports, you said Soccer, Australians are good at it, they are not naturals at the game like South Americans, but they have come up quite well. They made it to the WC semi-final if I remember correctly last time. Anyhow, I don’t want to argue about this, they are generally better people at sports than Indians is what I was saying to 420. I didn’t include Pakistanis in that, some of the Pathans are pretty hardy folks, especially from the mountains and all that 🙂

  77. #77 by Mohammed Munir on February 13, 2010 - 8:35 AM

    India desperate for a win, to retain the no. 1 position. 😆

    I’ve been asked to prepare a turner – Kolkata curator.

    http://www.cricinfo.com/indvrsa2010/content/story/447721.html

  78. #78 by khansahab on February 13, 2010 - 10:30 AM

    The way post-Australia series matters have been dealt with has been just as pathetic as Pakistan’s performance.

    The team manager’s reports and the reports of the inquiry do not reveal the core problem with the team, which is the constant selection of mediocre players and lack of foresight and planning on part of the management.

    Why is so much significance attributed to the management when everything has happened due to poor management?

    Malik is blaming Yousuf now and saying that the team should focus on performance but the truth is that Malik is only in the team due to the backing of one province and neither of his bowling, batting or fielding is good enough for him to warrant a place in the international side.

    Afridi is a good enough bowler to warrant a place in the side and his fielding is a bonus.
    Fawad Alam is a good enough batsman and the best fielder in the side.

    Malik is nowhere in the same category, so what right does he have to blame the team’s pathetic performance?

    The team can only hold 11 players and each player must be competent in at least one area to deserve selection.

    Omer

    I agree with you that Sarfraz Ahmed is a better keeper than Akmal. Akmal should only play T20 cricket. Sarfraz should be Pakistan’s first choice keeper in ODI’s and Tests.

    If he gets more chances to bat he will improve. He is already a very good batsman in domestic cricket- he just needs more chances before we can say for certain whether he is a poor batsman or a good one.

    Akmal has been dropped catches like hot cakes since 2006 and we have been keeping him in the side. Sarfraz has shown much better keeping skills and yet we can’t tolerate him for a few series?

  79. #79 by khansahab on February 13, 2010 - 10:36 AM

    Malik is now saying that he wants Afridi to be the captain. This is simply because both Afridi and Malik don’t want Yousuf as the captain and Yousuf has publicly humiliated Malik in the past.

    Malik is such a character that he plays backdoor politics. On camera he pretends to be a sweet, innocent little boy but behind the scenes he is known to be a petty politician.

    On Nadia Khan Show, the host revealed that Malik pretends to be a very innocent and moral person. He says he does not womanise, he says he plays for the team, he says he backs Younis and Afridi. But, behind the scenes he is a liar, politician, racist etc.

  80. #80 by khansahab on February 13, 2010 - 12:09 PM

    Omer

    I didn’t get a chance to speak on the “invaders in Punjab” topic during the week. Heera Mandi in Lahore is known as the heart of Lahore and Lahore is known as the heart of Punjab, so Heera Mandi is a massive thing in Punjab.

    Heera Mandi was actually built for the entertainment of invaders. The Persian, Afghan and Turkish invaders must have liked the local women or maybe they found the local women more able in terms of entertaining?

    Anyhow, a lot of people say that modern day Punjabis are the offspring of Greek/Persian/Afghan invaders. So there might well be some veracity in this Heera Mandi origin argument.

    I don’t mean to demean Punjabis in any way and am speaking strictly in terms of a historical viewpoint.

  81. #81 by khansahab on February 13, 2010 - 12:28 PM

    ‘Send back indisciplined Pak players from tour’

    Lahore, Feb 13 (PTI) Embarrassed by the indiscipline in the team, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has instructed the side’s manager for the Dubai Twenty20 series against England to immediately send back any player who gets out of line during the two matches.

    This was conveyed by designated manager Yawar Saeed to interim captain Shoaib Malik and the regular Twenty20 captain Shahid Afridi when he met them on the sidelines of a inquiry committee hearing in Lahore yesterday.

    “Yawar made it clear to both the senior players that the board had told him that they had had enough of players causing problems and violating the code of conduct,” one source said.

    He said Yawar told both players that the PCB had given him full authority to send back the first player who indulges in indiscipline on the tour.

  82. #82 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2010 - 2:24 PM

    khansahab

    This Yawar Saeed SOB is another Butt fart and he along with Inti Alam have ruined the team atmosphere during the tours and now if he has a Carte Blanche he will take out the venom against the players who may have not obeyed him in the past. So, the mission is kick out Butt and ask Yawar to F off.

  83. #83 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2010 - 2:30 PM

    LOL khansahab on Heera Mandi

    In those comments I was very modest in saying that they entertained them with ‘doodh, dahee aur gosht and when the invaders used to go, they used to give away a few of the cows and buffaloes to keep feeding them on the way!

    It is also mentioned in some books that the Moghul Emperors Jehangir and Akbar used to come back to Lahore for hunting and later during the British Raj they too discovered the precious Diamond Market and they used to visit that on the pretext of business trips and in the end they took some jewels from there back home and you find the off springs of Randy, Mandy in their country! 😀

  84. #84 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2010 - 2:39 PM

    based on the comment of Mohammed Munir with the link about Kolkata’s curator. This is one of the few farcical and comical laws of the ICC that you openly tamper the pitch – I would call it pitch tampering or doctoring – because, you are doing it to your own advantage. I am not saying only India is doing, they all do according to the strength of their players and to exploit the weakness of the opponents. So, there is NO fairness in “sport” and war.

    No one answered to my previous question about ball tampering, “if scuffing and roughing out one surface of the ball is illegal then how come licking, spitting, applying saliva and vigorously rubbing it on the thighs and on the hips by the fielding side to make one side shine so that the ball starts reverse swinging is not ball tampering?” Also, the fielding side throwing the ball back to the keeper with a hard bounce on the ground is not allowed, but how many times a player or a team has been accused of tampering the ball?

  85. #85 by 420 on February 13, 2010 - 4:47 PM

    feel good watching the afghan victories! less than a year (?)to international cricket, they have come a long way. one good thing icc has done in last decade is developing the cricket in the associate countries. i hope they make it to the next T20

  86. #86 by khansahab on February 13, 2010 - 5:20 PM

    Mudassar Nazar has remarked that Yousaf and Malak must be kicked out from the Pakastan team.

  87. #87 by khansahab on February 13, 2010 - 10:08 PM

    Omer

    Which phenomenon? Heera Mandi?

    No I have never been!! I don’t want to either.

  88. #88 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2010 - 10:53 PM

    But, Khansahab that Phenomenon has changed into a Phenomena bAkaOz, the jewels of The Diamond Market have been shifted to different locations, not only within the city or within the country but, internationally. Like I’ve said b4 how Randy and Mandy migrated to the UK? Now some of the local Jewelers of ICHARA have moved to the USA along with these jewels, which are their own family possessions and they have no inhibitions and hesitation in presenting them to friends and business acquaintances to solicit some deals and get favours. One such jeweler is in the USA and you know him well 😉 I still have his TOPAZ in my gallery.

  89. #89 by newguy on February 14, 2010 - 5:32 AM

    Ind-SA 2nd test is underway. SA won toss and chose to bat again. India decided to stick to the bowling attack from last match that took only 6 wickets and conceded 558 runs. I wonder whose genius idea is this. They got what they deserve, so far SA is running away with the match. I don’t understand why they love Ishant Sharma so much, he did not look like he will take a wicket in the last Test, and he looks even bad today. Sreesanth is fit and available and is a wicket taking bowler, they should have selected him. Mishra came on to bowl and he too went for plenty. Mishra along with Ishant went wicketless in last test and according to team think tank these two are worth persisting in a Test they must win to draw the series. What a pathetic bunch. Dhoni is hiding Bhajji now, because if he comes on to bowl he too will go for plenty and India are looking at 600+ on board with Steyn on their tail.

  90. #90 by khansahab on February 14, 2010 - 8:12 AM

    Omer

    Yesterday I realised that the Punjabi pronunciation of the name, “Mohsina” is “Mosna”.

    How different do “Mosna” and “Mohsina” sound!!

  91. #91 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2010 - 1:59 PM

    newguy

    Smile now because after the 2nd wicket partnership of 209 runs with Amla and Pietersen both scoring centuries India fought back very well and took 8 wickets in 57 runs only. The slide began after Kallis and you are right apparently it looked like 500-600 were on the cards but now, India has a chance unless they play very badly. They should get the last pair early tomorrow to restrict SA from being Hussey and Siddle and get them out by 275-280 max. If Gambhir and Sehwag can wag Styen and Parnel both can go into their shells. So, interesting 2nd day game on the cards now. Good luck.

  92. #92 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2010 - 2:17 PM

    LOL khansahab

    Were you on a date with MOSNA? Ahemmm, I am asking because today is St. Valentines Day. You could have asked MOSNA to drop that S and call herself MONA (darling) Just kidding. 😀

    You see most of the Arabic words or names are not easily pronounced by the people of sub-continent and in Punjab they have their own way of pronunciation especially where the alphabet H is to be emphasized and more so when it is not the first alphabet to pronounce, they can say Hassan, Haroon, Hameed, but not Mohsina or even Mohsin (they would say Mosin).

    Aimad for Ahmad
    Mohmad for Mohammad (seldom the double M is used)
    Samia for Samiha
    Zaied for Zahid etc.

    Then there is another Q version which you will find only in Punjab they cannot pronounce Q, instead they use K

    IKBAAL, for Iqbal
    Zulafkaar, for Zulfiqar
    RafeeeK, for Rafiq
    Shafeek, for Shafiq etc.

    These are just names but the strange thing is they say support for sport and sport for support.

    Tusi menu sport kero (here when they have to say support they say sport)
    Tusi support, shupport ich dilchaspi rekh day O? (here again it is opposite)

  93. #93 by newguy on February 14, 2010 - 2:58 PM

    Javed,

    Yes, good fight back from Indians, once they get Amla, Peterson, and Kallis the feeble middle order just choked. Nothing like a little bit of pressure to get SA down on their knees 🙂

    Having said that, Indians have to conquer Steyn, for that Sehwag need to fire and along with him Gambhir should hold up one end. If they can do that for 20 to 30 overs then the game is in India’s clasp. If they lose wickets quickly and fold up for 200 to 300 then game is wide open again. India have to bat big once and up to 500+ and SA will crumble under the pressure.

    It will not be easy though, they have to negotiate late swing from Steyn, that is the trick, he can bring the bowl in or out from the same delivery position and ball swings late fooling the batsman. Second day’s play will tell where the match is headed.

  94. #94 by newguy on February 14, 2010 - 11:58 PM

    Omer/Javed,

    There is the possibility that India could fold under 100 to 150 today and SA are back in a big way. Steyn is the real threat and the only threat in my opinion, other may get wickets because of the pressure he creates. But Morkel and Parnell do not have the swing capabilities of Steyn.

  95. #95 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2010 - 1:39 AM

    newguy

    That is true that Steyn is the real threat, but sometimes when one bowler is taking wickets the others also bowl well in tandem, there is no such rule but it happens most of the time. However, Indian batting line up has improved with Laxman and Karthik in the team and I won’t expect Tendulkar to score another hundred here but, I do expect Dhoni to play a good knock, may be a big hundred.

    Someone called Aga wrote an article on cricinfo highlighting the India/Australia match in which Harbhajan took a hat-trick, here is the link:

    http://www.cricinfo.com/indvrsa2010/content/current/story/448225.html

    Something similar happened to the visitors here but, India should not be dreaming of the past glories, they must work hard to win this test match.

  96. #96 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2010 - 1:47 AM

    Chris Gayle talked big and ended small. Before the series started he said, we will beat Australia 4-1 and they are yet to win a match here. There is no one in the West Indies team who can challenge the Australian bowling attack, not even Gayle. He plays one good innings in 10 matches but, rest of the time he is on the losing side.

    In the test match between Bangladesh and NZ, the home team at lunch are 73 for 3. Its so strange the BB McCullum who opens for NZ in ODI’s and T20, plays at number 7 in test. I think Pakistani captains, coach and selectors must also think about utilizing their exploding players like Afridi, Umar Akmal with Imran Nazir instead of a Duddoo like Imran Farhat to open the innings at least in T20 if not in the ODI’s because, they can take advantage of the power play and score some real fast runs, it doesn’t matter if they get out, because Pakistan has batsmen who can play up to number 8. There is no use in sending players like Afridi or Fawad Alam when there are only 2-3 overs left. Then they are under pressure to perform and a hit or a miss would end up their batting career.

  97. #97 by Mohammed Munir on February 15, 2010 - 5:42 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Comment no. 123 …

    You have raised some very good points about the ball-tempering and also ‘pitch-tempering’. I agree that if a bowler plus 10 other players are allowed to rub, lick, apply saliva, spit on the ball and what not, then why not allow them to use finger-nails (which is nothing external) to lift the seam or scrape the shine ? Furthermore, every country tries to take advantage of home-grounds and prepare pitches to suit their own game plans, then how come that doesn’t amount to tempering ? What we have recently seen in an abandoned India/ Sri Lanka match at Delhi grounds was a disgrace and certainly a case of genuine pitch-tempering by the host country.

    Unfortunately, cricket till today, even after over a 100 years of it’s inception, have various flaws with it’s rules and regulations. For one, there are different set of rules for every series which doesn’t apply as general practices, such as UDRS (Umpires Decisions Review Systems) are applied on case to case basis. Secondly, the game of cricket is a case of ‘never-ending-evolving-condition’, and every now and then we see some new rules/ regulations to suit one country or another.

    Cricket is such a sensitive game where the outcome of the match largely depends on numerous small factors like the weather conditions, timing of the day, state of the ball, types pf ball (red/ white), pitch conditions, umpiring standards, technologies, and countless other minor issues. Whereas in many other sports, since both the teams are using the play grounds at the same time, it doesn’t really matters whether it rain, shine, snow, etc.

    Sensitivities of the such minute issues, occasional wrong decisions, umpires mistakes (which are clearly shown on TV), ball/ pitch tempering, reliance on individual players, ineffectiveness of team involvement, issues with the match-fixings, politicizing of the game (IPL/ ICL) are just a few of the underlying concerns which are hampering the game of cricket to be accepted and encouraged in the wider spectrum.

    Comment no. 141 …

    You explanations were just hilarious and true also. After reading your comments, I thought about those words (H & Q) and you are absolutely right, as most Punjabis have exact same issues, it seems you have done a full research on the Punjabi language 😉

    And Finally …

    Today there was an interview of our new T20 Captain, Malak Meesna, in the local newspaper and this is what he has to say:
    “We didn’t play well against Australia. But you always learn from your mistakes. We worked hard for these two matches. When you lose, these controversies arise. We had quite a few meetings and we talked about what went wrong in Australia.”
    “Well, we are professional cricketers and right now we are playing for our country. All other things are secondary. Now we are just concentrating on these two matches.”

    Now I remember this %&@*%@^!*&#!*@&%^#*^! Malak, saying these exact words (We have to learn from our mistakes & We are professionals) at least a million times and someone should go and slap him on his face and ask him WTF have you learnt in over 10 years of your professional career ??

    http://www.khaleejtimes.com/sport/inside_sport.asp?xfile=/data/cricket/2010/February/cricket_February112.xml&section=cricket

  98. #98 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2010 - 6:42 AM

    newguy

    You should be happy watching the match, Sehwag is wagging his bat and making the SA bowlers and fielders run around. He was lucky that JP Duminy who is totally out of form with the bat, also sloppy in the field, dropped a simple regulation catch in the slips when Sehwag was on 47. It is lunch now and Tendulkar is his other partner. Until now I was under the impression that Dinesh Karthik is playing? But, when I saw the Indian batting line up names his name is missing. Instead they got Vijay and Badrinath. Come on WTF is this? Karthik is anytime better than these two players. I think Dhoni has either some grudge against him or he is threatened not to have him in the team. Although if he was playing he would only be playing as a batsman and not a wicketkeeper. I was so sure that after his two big hundreds in the final of Duleep Singhji Trophy and his inclusion in the squad, he is in the playing XI but he is being treated like Fawad Alam and that’s a shame.

  99. #99 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2010 - 3:29 PM

    Surprise, surprise no one commented after India’s batting at the end of the day’s proceedings. India is only 46 runs ahead after Sehwag’s big ton and Tendulkar’s yet another hundred, India should have been in more commanding position had they not had Badrinath or Vijay in the team instead they must have Dinesh Karthik. Now, Laxman and nightwatchman Mishra is there with Dhoni and the tail yet to come. I am not so optimistic with the batting form of the remaining batsmen. Practically after Dhoni it is a long tail, in fact part of the tail in Mishra is wiggling at the crease. JP Duminy got the prized wicket of Sehwag but at price? After dropping a simple regulation catch in the slips when he was on 47, he went on to score 165, meaning 118 runs extra plus the useful time in partnership with Tendulkar, otherwise India would have been under pressure to take the lead.

    The Cricinfo awards ceremony is to be held and among the names of Sehwag and Chris Gayle for outstanding test innings, 19 year old young debutant Umar Akmal’s name is among the top 5. My feeling is Sehwag will get the award for his consistent test run spree, the awards may be based on last year’s performance but Sehwag has continued his form even till date. Even in this series he scored a hundred, then a fifty and now a 165. Tendulkar, whose name is not in the top contenders have scored 3 consecutive 100’s so far, or is it 4 ?

  100. #100 by newguy on February 15, 2010 - 3:35 PM

    Javed,

    Yes, a good day from India’s point of view. Nothing like a good Sehwagging to get the opposition bowlers demoralized. Suddenly you see everyone batting well. I was disappointed with two things, first Sehwag-Gambhir partnership had great momentum and SA was losing grip on the match quickly, their bowlers were almost giving up hope, had they gone on for another 10 more overs match would have decisively turned in India’s favor, second was Sehwag’s exit before he could get a double and hang around end of day unbeaten demoralizing bowlers further. Gambhir was looking good and he could have gone on for a big score as well, and the way Sehwag was playing he was ready for a big double.

    Match is evenly poised now, India can hope that they have Laxman and Dhoni and they could stitch together 100 odd runs. SA on the other hand is pumped up now and will come fresh in the morning to attack, if they get one of these batsman out or both of them, we know what will happen to the tail. India will be left with 60-70 runs lead and then it all depends on how well they could bowl in 2nd innings. SA will fight hard if the lead is small.

    But if the lead is over 150 run then there will be pressure to put up a big score and they will make mistakes under pressure.

    If SA sets a lead of anything close to or above 200 then it will not be easy for India in 4th innings. Especially Steyn will be very crucial. Only batsman who can win the match for India is Sehwag, and Tendulkar to a lesser extend. India have to hope they are chasing less than 150 in 2nd innings.

    3rd day will be cruicial, SA will fight tooth & nail because they know it’s not every day you get to have a series in India. If they let go of this chance they may not get another anytime soon.

    India knows this too, and hopefully they too will fight hard.

  101. #101 by newguy on February 15, 2010 - 3:44 PM

    Javed,

    I want to comment on Vijay and Badrinath. You are right that these two are looking like liabilities right now, but at the same time, based on domestic record and pre-match analysis these two are probably the best of the new generation Test batsman to be given a chance. There are others like Virat Kohli and Suresh Raina who have done well in ODI waiting for chance, and in fact Raina is in the squad as reserve, so is Dinesh Karthik.

    Speaking of Karthik, it may seem unfair to not let him play and instead let Badrinath play, but you have to look at what has been happening in domestic cricket and the role they play. Karthik is a wicketkeeper batsman and he gets chance whenever Dhoni is not playing, as a specialist batsman he hasn’t done enough recently in Test to merit a place. At one time he was a specialist opener when Sehwag was out of team, he opened in England and scored a few useful half centuries. So, yes, he has faced new ball and he scored decently, but after that he lost consistency. He hasn’t done well as a batsman alone recently in ODI or Test. His recent domestic match hundreds may not be of much value against Steyn and Morkel.

    More on this later/

  102. #102 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2010 - 3:47 PM

    Pakastani Senator Taraq Azeem has demanded that Shahid Afridi be kicked out of the team and he must be banned from 3-4 series. The law says no one person can be punished twice for one offense. But Chaudhary Taraq Azeem Khan Sahab of Rawalpind is a Snaytor and likes to do tur tur to get attention.

  103. #103 by newguy on February 15, 2010 - 3:53 PM

    More on Vijay, Karthik, and Badrinath – I guess all of these guys are decent batsmen in domestic circuit and Vijay has done well in tests before this whenever given chance, Badrinath also score a fift in Nagpur on debut. The thing is Dale Steyn is the best fast bowler in world right now and Morkel with his height can cause some problems too. So, it’s not fair to judge them after couple of innings.

    Especially when you compare to the trio of Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman and replacing them with youngsters these guys don’t come closer when those three were young and starting out. This is known problem for India for future, they are not going get replacement for these 3 greats who just happened to come along in same period.

    Karthik may deserve a chance, and he will get it sooner or later. Only if India had Dravid things would have been so different. No one like Dravid to hold a 4th innings chase together. Number 3 position now is very vulnerable with Vijay coming and it’s almost like sure to lose a wicket.

    This is why I said India have to hope the 4th innings target is not over 200, without Dravid only Sehwag can do it.

  104. #104 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2010 - 5:24 PM

    newguy

    The difference between Vijay + Badrinath + Saha vs. Karthik is, when you compare the domestic batting averages, if a well known test player scores a few centuries in domestic matches and the others also score just about the same and it doesn’t matter even if the ‘averages of these three is more than that of Karthik, imo Karthik should still be preferred over them for being a known test player should be preferred over the unknown or new players like them, because when this player (Karthik) hits two big centuries it means he is hitting form and gaining confidence and his experience will give him more confidence and momentum when he plays a test match. Whereas, a new player no matter how good he may have been will not be that confident. I am not saying that talented players who score centuries on debut are less likely to be considered over an established player, Badrinath’s fifty or Vijay’s previous performance where he too had a fifty in test cannot be the same as Karthik’s. Because, Karthik has one hundred and 7 fifties to his name and right now he is hitting form + He is more experienced and more matured, calling him back and getting him in the squad and then making him sit out is rather sad.

  105. #105 by newguy on February 15, 2010 - 5:57 PM

    Javed,

    I guess what you said makes sense about a Test player with experience hitting form should be prefered. Unfortunately, there are always other things in selection, like preferences, giving every player some chance so on.

  106. #106 by khansahab on February 15, 2010 - 7:55 PM

    Javed A Khan

    It is extremely saddening to hear Senator Azeem’s remarks.

    They don’t realise only one man can unite and energise the team. I think Senator Azeem just retaliated to Afridi’s recent comment that ball tampering is being blown out of proportion by those people who want a captain from Punjab.

    Afridi was punished for his actions and he has accepted his mistake. However, it was the thirst of winning that led him to commit this stupid inadvertent act. Whereas, Akmal and Malik have played politics which has affected the team’s performances. Also, Umer Akmal being Pakistan’s best batsman, faked injury when there were reports his brother would be dropped. So, what these players have done behind closed doors is dirty politics and measures designed to affect team morale and performance. Whereas what Afridi was doing out in front of everyone was to make the team win, although it is illegal.

    How can this kind of action set a precedent was his mistake was caught and he was punished?

  107. #107 by khansahab on February 15, 2010 - 8:16 PM

    Reportedly Jang has given this news today that Ijaz Butt will not be replaced until after World Cup 2011.

    If this news is true then it’s a dark day for cricket and dark day for Pakistan.

  108. #108 by khansahab on February 15, 2010 - 8:25 PM

    Democracy in PCB is the order of the day

    Salahuddin Sallu

    It is not possible to defend what Shahid Afridi did in the final one-day match in Australia, but the manner in which the incident has been blown out of all proportions is not very appropriate.

    A mistake was made by Afridi and the competent authority, match referee Ranjan Madugalle, applied the penalty (a two-game ban). Case closed! Furthermore, at the time of the incident Pakistan was not able to benefit from the wrongdoing since the ball was changed immediately.

    Incidents involving ball tampering are not new. Previously Daniel Vettori of New Zealand and England’s Mike Atherton have both been on receving ends with regard to ball tampering and every one has moved on since.

    This was Afridi’s first case of ball tampering and now we should also move on like other countries did in similar cases.

    Recently English bowler Stuart Broad was also accused of ball tampering in a match against the Proteas, when he allegedly he stepped on a cricket ball with spikes, and yet no action was taken against him.

    Afridi is an asset of Pakistan cricket and a potential captain for the foreseeable future. I would like to see PCB protect this asset just as any other cricket board would have done.

    The fact that support for Afridi has come from competent quarters like Imran Khan, Wasim Akram and Ramiz Raja among others shows that the case should be considered closed.

    There are several PCB-related issues that I would want to comment on here. For instance, the treatment of legendry Javed Miandad by the PCB and Ijaz Butt is absolutely disgraceful.

    A player of Javed’s stature, who has served the nation with such distinction, can absolutely not be treated in such a shabby manner by the board.

    Javed is correct in pointing out that, if there was a problem in Javed’s work ethics than the board should have taken a stand against him earlier, rather than politically maneuver the issue in media against him and let me add, without any proof. Wasim Akram’s induction into the probe committee is laudable as Wasim Bari’s is laughable.

    Frankly speaking Wasim Akram is the only member of the probe committee who is not a yes man to Ijaz Butt and has the guts to speak his mind with honesty.

    None other in the committee is up to Wasim Akram’s calibre and his input should most definitely be given more weight.

    Furthermore a legend like Wasim Akram, who in my opinion was one of the best fast bowlers ever to have played the game, should be given a more active and important role for the benefit of Pakistan cricket.

    Moreover, I also believe that services of people in tune with modern cricket like Moin Khan, Inzamam-ul-Haq and Aamir Sohail should be availed as well as that of performers on the domestic circuit like Sadiq Mohammad.

    Sadiq as coach led Karachi Blues to success in the Quaid-i-Azam Trophy this season and has learnt the skills of coaching from his brothers Wazir, Hanif and Mushtaq Mohammad, all gurus of the game.

    He also served Pakistan and Gloucestershire with distinction. PCB must consider Sadiq’s expertise for a coaching position within the Board.

    Kamran Akmal being dropped is a good decision. He has for long managed to avoid the chop for his batting ability, but now is the right time to give Sarfraz Ahmed a long run so he becomes in tune with international cricket.

    Sarfraz, in my opinion, is technically sound and a natural keeper and his performances for PIA have been admirable.

    Kamran, I feel, also left a lot to be desired on the recent tours of New Zealand and Australia insofar discipline is concerned and needs a slight rap on the knuckles for the same.

    There aren’t very many changes to the team to visit UAE from the side that lost to Australia apart form the forced ouster of Mohammad Asif and the inclusion of veteran Abdul Razzaq.

    I firmly believe Pakistan will perform well in the UAE, since the conditions there are similar to ours and our batsmen are more suited to the low bounce wickets there.

    Let me add that the appointment of Abdul Raqeeb as manager of such an important and long tour of Australia and New Zealand proved to be pointless and contributed absolutely nothing to Pakistan’s cause.

    Raqeeb is a gentleman alright but is too soft-natured to be handling Pakistan cricket team’s affairs on such a challenging tour. Maybe a stronger and proven disciplinarian like Majid Khan should have managed the team.

    To my utter disbelief, the ever-blundering Yawar Saeed has yet again been appointed the manager for UAE contests.

    It is no secret that Yawar’s last stint in Sri Lanka was replete with controversies such as match fixing and, of course, defeats. May be Intikhab was too young for Butt so he reappointed Yawar to bring in a more ‘mature’ head.

    And what to say of team coach, Ijaz Ahmed…His chequered past which includes jail term over a plot scam clearly makes him a persona non grata. The PCB, however, doesn’t mind it one bit and has handed the ex-Test player a very respectable position.

    After scathing criticism over their performance from all quarters, Ijaz Butt and his team should resign immediately if they have any self respect.

    There is no other way for them but to leave after the mess they created in Pakistan cricket during their tenure. Recently, I heard that Mr Butt was awarded a medal by the ICC and am wondering what it was really for.

    Was it for being a yes man to the ICC while the World Cup matches and the ICC Trophy were taken away from Pakistan, or was it for taking Pakistan cricket to it’s lowest ebb.

    Before the imposition of ad hoc, the system at the PCB was such that an elected general body comprising all the associations affiliated with the Board, would further elect a ‘Council’ which would then take all the key decisions.

    This transparent methodology of decision-making was last used under Mr. Khalid Mahmood’s tenure. I would regard that period as a golden era, when we won the Asia Cup (Dhaka), Sahara Cup (Toronto), were World Cup runners-up (in 1999) among other successes.

    That system effectively minimised the chances of a ‘one man show’ and would also help in eradicating nepotism and incompetence that has seeped into the operational activity of PCB today.

    Imran Khan has correctly suggested that the system should be changed because merely changing the faces serves no purpose whatsoever.

    The only way now to save Pakistan cricket is to make it democratic. I wish an elected Council could bring a man at the helm who was a strong disciplinarian, someone like the late Muzaffar Hussain, former Chairman PCB (then known as the BCCP) Executive Council who also headed the Karachi Cricket Association.

  109. #109 by khansahab on February 15, 2010 - 8:29 PM

    A very good article by Salahuddin Sallu. Sallu has proven to be an unbiased and level headed commentator. Once or twice I accused him of being too pro Karachi, however he appears to be completely unbiased.

    He is speaking highly of Wasim Akram, Ramiz Raja and other players from Punjab, but he is also supporting Sarfraz Ahmed and Afridi. It must be remember Sallu was responsible for the selection of many talented players such as Tanvir, Misbah, Fawad, Sarfraz Ahmed and Sohail Khan. Sadly Misbah and Tanvir succumbed to politics and indiscipline and it affected their performance.

  110. #110 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2010 - 10:02 PM

    Yes, Sallu’s article is very balanced and he has highlighted the facts but the problem is the thickheaded, thick skinned idiots who are managing the affairs have no effect on this kinda criticism, probably they don’t even read it or even if someone tells them that so and so has written such and such thing against you, they don’t give a damn about it. Ijaz Butt is a lunatic and even bigger is Zardari to have him there.

    The appointment of Ijaz Ahmad the gambler who was banned from playing cricket for life by Justice Qayyum on match fixing charges and later he was jailed for a plot scam and a bounced cheque of a couple of million rupees have been awarded the job of a coach for the Pakistan U-19 and now for the national team is something only Ijaz Butt can understand and no one else.

    And, khansahab it is not just a dark day but DAYS ahead if Butt is staying till 2011, lets pray that Zardari before that so that Butt also goess with him.

  111. #111 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2010 - 10:04 PM

    As regards Senator Tariq Haqeer‘s comments he seems to be like a “Kuwain ka Duddoo” I wonder how he got that post of Sactree of PML Qainchi? That party is full of chaudhrys and waderas and feudal lords and he should talk about banning the feudal lord system in Pakistan instead of asking to ban Shahid Afridi.

  112. #112 by khansahab on February 15, 2010 - 10:53 PM

    Omer

    Now you see why I said this democratic process in Pakistan is just an excuse for paindoo feudals to rule the roost?

    I don’t know how long this process will take to produce sincere leaders because that is what the country needs, not petty pathetic politicians.

    It is OK to do politics and promote democracy, but it must produce honest, committed leaders. Somehow this Pakistani democracy only produces feudals and thugs.

  113. #113 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 16, 2010 - 3:17 AM

    Another Chronic Lunatic Senator is on the loose and that is Senator Enver Beg, he has a habit of blabbering like Sarfaraz Nawaz, read his comments:

    http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=224458

    He is talking about match fixing and saying that most Pakistani players are involved in match fixing. The problem is not with the current team involved in match fixing but, the appointment of all those who had a history of match fixing by the PCB. Ijaz Ahmad who is a known Suttay Baaz match fixer, banned from playing cricket for life is appointed as a coach and Wasim Akram wants him to remain as a batting coach for at least one year.

    Another Mother of All the Suttay Baaz, Great Gambler, so-called Pakistani national but, Indian Resident (hoping to become an Indian Citizen) player of the players against Ek Hasina, naam jiska Sushmita, shakal say jhoota, cricket bat jaisee Naak, Naag Saanp jaisy aankh, BV kay gham ka dhong rachanay wala, Magar much kay aansoo bahanay wala, ek zamanay ka behtreen bowler Wasim Chakram is now leering up to grab the job of a coach of Pakistan national team by saying: “Pakistan needs a high energy coach”. He wants Shoaib Malik to be the captain for at least one year. Read his comments in DAWN.

    Another candidate who is eying for the job is Pir Inzamam ul Hulk Qassab, urf Uncle Aloo, he wants to be the batting coach. Himself he is a couch potato, who prefers to Eat, Sleep and Gym. (Eat Nihari and Paye, Sleep while fielding in the slips position, go to Gym to check how is everyone doing there!

    Yet another candidate, Paindoo Zaheer Abbass, he has also expressed his desire to take over the job snatched from Inti Alam. Zaheer Abbass was the manager of the team when Inzi was involved with Darrel in hair raising circumstances and ALL he did was kept walking here and there with his cell phone glued to his ear. God knows whether he was talking to his second wife in India or settling divorce issues with his first wife in Karachi? In short he did nothing while he was the manager and was terminated by the Terminator, hence I call him the Ex-Terminator (here in French Khatmal Maaron ko Ex-Terminator kehtay hain.)

    Why on earth we have people like these giving statements or trying to promote and project themselves for a high flying job? That is BAKAOZ …………………. PaiiSaa Bolta Hai.

  114. #114 by Mohammed Munir on February 16, 2010 - 6:06 AM

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    With regards to the forthcoming T20 games against England, the interest this time around is just NOT there. Mainly due to our dismal performances in NZ and Australia; but also because of the current controversies and deplorable issues surrounding our cricket in general. Moreover, peoples will also miss Afridi in the first game and his captaincy in the second.

    Nevertheless, I for one, will be attending both the games in Dubai, not only because I have the pleasure of VIP viewing in corporate boxes and attending matches is more like a social obligation and a good PR opportunity, but more importantly because my younger one wants to see “Afridi” (even when he is not playing).

    BTW, after we lost the last T20 against Australia, my 7 year old son went to his mom and said, “Mumma, cricket is a good game and I like to watch and play it, but ‘this game’ makes me so sad when we loose’.

    I know a personal friend who liked cricket himself but is keeping his kids totally away from game and trying to hook them to international football. When asked, he explained that “I don’t want my kids to get demotivated and depressed seeing Pakistan’s cricket”.

  115. #115 by newguy on February 16, 2010 - 1:18 PM

    Well, India have put up a mammoth total in 1st innings and declared just 15 minutes before close. SA have to bat out 2 days to save this test. It’s almost sure India cannot lose this test now. VVS Laxman’s presence in the middle order made all the difference. Four Indians scored hundreds and four South Africans went for more than hundred runs. It’s over to Zaheer, Harbhajan, and Mishra to win the match and draw the series.

  116. #116 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 16, 2010 - 2:11 PM

    newguy

    U must be happy 😀 I wrote earlier that I don’t expect from Tendulkar to score a hundred but I expect Dhoni to get a big hundred. That made all the difference had he failed Laxman may not have batted with the tail piling up so many runs. And, Sehwag’s hundred was the main reason that India were able to score so many runs, he gave a good start, dropped on 47 but, that is all a part of the game, who doesn’t get dropped? Instead of saying, India cannot lose this test now, I would say. India MUST win this test now. There are 2 full days and a huge lead, how long they can play and how many runs can they score? Theoretically, yes but how many teams have played for 2 full days? I don’t think SA can win, they are chokers. Unless there is rain or some such disaster, this match is in India’s pocket.

  117. #117 by khansahab on February 16, 2010 - 2:39 PM

    Jang has reported that Younis Khan was surprised that Yawar Saeed was on the committee that is holding an inquiry into why Pakistan lost against Australia.

    Younis questioned the appointment of Saeed in the light of Saeed conspiring with 4 players to get rid of Younis, when Younis was captain.

    Younis declined to attend the inquiry initially but was convinced by some officials to do so.

  118. #118 by khansahab on February 16, 2010 - 3:37 PM

    Pakastan Parliament has made statements saying that Afridi should be banned from playing cricket or he should receive a ban for 5 years.

    Why so much condemnation for a cricketer who has never taken money for poor performance and who has always played for the country?

    He has been one of Pakistan’s best ODI and T20 players and for the past 3 years or so his bowling has been unplayable.

    The indiscipline and politics fostered by Malik, Akmal and Misbah is open in front of everyone. Yet, why no serious action against these players? Why has the Parliament never questioned why Shoaib Malik was made to play Test cricket?

  119. #119 by newguy on February 16, 2010 - 5:45 PM

    Javed,

    Yes, Indians actually exceeded my expectations, I never imagined both Laxman and Dhoni would score unbeaten hundreds and get to a massive 600+ score. But if you remember I said on Day 1 that India need to bat well and put up 500+, they did that. In India the key to winning test matches is always to pile on as many runs as possible and then put pressure on opposition with the sheer weight of runs.

    South Africa did bowl well though, especially Steyn bowled superbly in the morning, beating Laxman and Dhoni both on many occasions outside the off stump. But he was unlucky not to get an edge. Then in the field they dropped many chances, it was very unusual for a South African side to drop many chances. But as you said, it’s all part of the game.

    As for winning, I think yes India should win and not let anything get in the way, spinners will come into play after lunch and tea on 4th day. Harbhajan, Mishra, and even Sehwag can spin the bowl. Let’s see how well they handle pressure. I think Amla, Kallis and Smith are the key, they all have the quality to play a long a patient innings.

  120. #120 by Mohammed Munir on February 16, 2010 - 10:07 PM

    Hope you guys have seen this. These are the new Dancing Fountains of Dubai. Just in case if any of you is planning to visit Dubai 😉

  121. #121 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 17, 2010 - 1:36 AM

    Munir

    Link tumharee jabe may hee reh gayee! Never mind, I have seen dancing fountains and they are not just in Dubai but, elsewhere too. I think Sweetie has sent the link a few months ago.

  122. #122 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 17, 2010 - 1:42 AM

    Afridi set to feature in Emirates Twenty20
    Wednesday, February 17, 2010

    KARACHI: Swashbuckling all-rounder Shahid Afridi has signed up to play in the inaugural Emirates Airline Twenty20 Tournament in Dubai.

    In an amazing coup, Fly Emirates XI — a team of amateurs who juggle cricket with busy jobs at the Emirates Group — have recruited the 29-year-old in a bid to claim a shock victory against the professional teams they will be facing in the two-day festival of cricket on March 19 and 20.

    Afridi will be lining up alongside Emirates employees including four who are also members of the UAE team which reached the last four of the ICC World Twenty20 Qualifiers — as they attempt to upset the odds against some of South Africa and England’s most talented Twenty20 players.

    Afridi said, “It is going to be a tough challenge, but I am looking forward to it. I always enjoy my time in Dubai and am very excited about playing in the first ever Emirates Airline Twenty20 tournament.

    “I know there is a real passion among cricket fans in the UAE and it will be great to play in front of them.” It is a dream come true for Fly Emirates XI skipper Nigel Fernandes, who is delighted his team will get the opportunity to learn from one of the game’s most gifted player.

    “I can’t believe that Shahid Afridi will be playing for us,” said the 32-year-old batsman from India, who works as an Airport Services Supervisor at the Emirates Group. “He is among the best players in the world at the moment and to have him alongside us will give us a great confidence. He is a player I greatly admire. He is a natural talent who can win matches singlehandedly. It will be an incredible experience for everyone in the team and a real honour to line up beside him,” Fernandes added.

  123. #123 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 17, 2010 - 2:41 AM

    On the news Shahid Afridi playing for Emirates has prompted me to write this small note on Dubai

    Dubai has changed a lot. I have lived in Dubai when there were hardly a few asphalt roads, there was no Jumeria, there was no Hamriya. Where Hamriya is today, it used to be sea, its a reclaimed land where Hyatt Regency and the fruit market are standing now. At that time there were very few buildings and not a single one was more than 3 stories high. People at that time were very nice people, very hospitable, were courteous and were great hosts.

    But, today’s Dubai is an absolutely different world, mushrooming with concrete, steel and glass buildings, malls, hotels, towers tallest in the world, biggest in the world, first in the world, this is the motto, otherwise there is nothing in their life I mean besides, cars, jewelery, fashion, night clubs and sharmootaz.

    Dubai used to be one of the safest places in the world, very safe, secure and peaceful, it was even a financial haven but, now its been hit by the glut in the real estate market and the recession. The stories that I hear on radio and the news that I see on the TV, makes me wonder is this the same Dubai when I was there? Last year there was a James Bond style shooting in Dubai, reportedly some Russian mafia gang. Last month one of the top leaders of Hammas was assassinated, here is the link.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8518481.stm

    This is the top story of today on the BBC front page and it is hitting the headlines. In that news you will see photographs of suspects and the interesting bit is, just like a James Bond movie, there is a woman too – reportedly involved in that case. Wow, what’s happening to Dubai?

    Talking of Emirates Airline, I dunno how many people are aware of the fact that when Emirates was established they didn’t have any aircraft, PIA had leased them a few planes and not only that, the entire crew, administration from A to Z was provided by PIA. Now they have a huge fleet of aircraft and one of the biggest airports in the world (Munir has to confirm whether the construction of the new airport, which was halted last year due to recession has started or not?)

    During that time Al-Maktoum Street was like Champ Elysees of Dubai, and it was hardly 0.5 k.m. long at that time, it was only between Al-Nasr Square and Ashraf Brothers (opp. Sheikha Latifa Building) and later they extended it up to the Clock Tower. On Al-Maktoum street there was Hassani Supermarket which was one of the biggest supermarkets of that time (4 shops under one roof) owned by some Pakistani family. On that street when people were walking around during the evening time, if there was any stranger, you could have spot him that, he is a stranger.

  124. #124 by Mohammed Munir on February 17, 2010 - 8:40 AM

    Javed Khan …

    You have a gift for ‘writing’ and when you are in that special mood, your well expressed and perfectly detailed scripts are a treat to read, just like a sweet storey being told to an engrossed kid. But it’s a different thing, when you are perturbed and provoked on subjects close to your heart, such as cricket or Musharraf. 😉

    Yes you are right about Dubai and the price it has to pay for it’s most rapid growth and exceptional development from what it was to what it has transformed into today. What Dubai has achieved in such a short time is nothing less then a modern day miracle and when one embarks on expeditions like these he should be prepared for a ‘come-what-may’ attitude and willing to make a few sacrifices along the way. This is what Dubai has accepted and agreed to reach where it has.

    Where on one side Dubai portrays exuberance, modernity and aggressive approach, on the other hand, neighbouring emirates of Abu Dhabi and Sharjah were nestled in a different world and were reluctant to negotiate on their cultural, heritage, and rather conservational values. These emirates considered this a bit too high a price for development and being on the world map. This situation is more or less similar to any one city being more commercially active, cosmopolitan and center of attraction while another city in the same country may be less adventurous and traditionalist.

    Coming back to Dubai airport, well a few years back, I had to do some research work on Dubai’s massive airport expansions (on same old airport). So I know that the work was neither really halted nor slowed down. Dubai’s old airport almost completed it’s expansion project (still some roads, metro, and related works are underway), and that tiny airport is now transformed into a huge travel-hub for so many airlines comprising of three major terminals. Where Terminal 3, is exclusively allowed to Dubai’s national carrier, Emirates Airlines. A fourth terminal is in the pipeline, while there is a special royal terminal for diplomats and dignitaries. You are absolutely right on Emirates being started with leased aero-planes as well as all the crew and know-how being received from PIA. But today Emirates has become one of the most successful and highly profitable airlines in the industry. BTW, Emirates has recently started a budget-airline called Fly-Dubai, which caters specially on no-frills and low-budget-flying concepts. Nevertheless, Dubai was also planning to built a ‘second airport’, more of an airport-city at Jabel Ali area which is on the outskirts of the main Dubai, however, since that project was coupled with huge real estate developments and various commercial/ residential properties, it has been ‘unofficially’ halted or rather slowed-down due to the recession, which is like so many other overambitious projects not only in Dubai but all around the world. So if you are talking about this second airport, then yes it is still halted, more or less.

    BTW, UAE, in spite of being such a small country of less then 1 million nationals and approx. 3/ 4 million residents, overall has 6 international airports which are excluding any number of military and royal (for diplomats and VVIPs) airports. There are two more airports which can be considered as under development, one in Ajman and one at Jabel Ali, Dubai. There are at least three main airlines, Emirates, Air Arabia, and Etihad Airlines. This is in addition to newly started Fly Dubai, which is operating under Emirates Airlines.

    That being said, like any other country in the world, Dubai too has it’s pros and cons and you are absolutely right because today when I go to Dubai from Sharjah, I rarely see a known face and so many of the tourists from allover the world make one feel uneasy. Actually, I stay in Sharjah and have only a few commercial properties in Dubai, mainly for investment/ trading purposes. I never lived in Dubai. I am more of an old-school person and personally prefer Sharjah more then Dubai, any day. BTW, I permanently moved to Sharjah only about 5 years back and prior to that I was stationed in Umm-al-Quwain which is an even smaller city or rather a remote village. But the best part is that Dubai was about 50 to 60 km from Umm-al-Quwain, and 5 to 10 km from Sharjah, so it is more like outer suburbs of Dubai.

    Finally, please tell me when were you last in Dubai/ UAE ? And when are you planning to visit again ? Seeing Burj Khalif and Dancing Fountains on ‘you-tube’ and reading about them on internet or even hearing reviews from friends, can not be compared with the awe-inspiring magic of the real thing, you see 😉

  125. #125 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 17, 2010 - 9:19 AM

    I have been watching Vancouver Winter Olympics 2010 and cricket, * its raining in Kolkata so match delayed.*

    Canadian girl Maelle Ricker has won the gold for snowboarding cross by miles……. whereas world champion Helene Olafson of Norway was out of the medal contest. And Canada hockey team crushed Norway 8-0, I am watching the replay, Vancouver is amazingly beautiful in winter as well as summer. The cross country snowboarding track is amazing it is outdoors and a breathtaking view. Ricker had a problem in the first round, but somehow she qualified for the second round and after that there was no looking back, she was ahead in quarter, semis and in the final she was ahead by miles. She is the first Canadian woman to win a gold at home soil in this event.

  126. #126 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 17, 2010 - 9:33 AM

    Munir

    Thanks for the updates on Dubai airport. I was there a couple of years ago and I am not sure when I shall be visiting Dubai next. Apart from a few friends who live there, I have no interest in Dubai. I hate traffic jams and the thought of getting stuck in traffic makes me sick. I am lucky to have my own business and when I go to work, I leave after the rush hour is over, so normally during rush hour it takes 40-45 minutes to reach downtown, during non-rush hour it takes me only 10-12 minutes. I do the same when coming back, either early or late depending on the work. There are 4 cities in North America which are considered as very beautiful, two in the US and two in Canada. San Francisco and Seattle in the US. And, in Canada Vancouver and Montreal.

    Vancouver’s winter is very mild as compared to Montreal and, it has many mountains all over it is very scenic and very picturesque but, it rains a lot during summer whereas in Montreal during spring, summer and fall the city is so vibrant, so lively and bustling with life with so many festivals during that time. Winter is very severe but, one gets used to. This year February is very, very mild, so far the temperature is between -2C to -10C only. Normally between January 15th to end of February it is the coldest period of the season with temperatures well below -10C to -30C and lots of snow, this time there is hardly a few inches of snow. But, sometimes the month of March arrives like a lion and departs like a lamb, meaning we usually get 2 to 3 snow storms of 50-60 cm of snow but, the temperature is such that by the end of the month half of it usually melts away.

  127. #127 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 17, 2010 - 3:18 PM

    Pakistan team and Pakistan A played a twenty20 match in Abu Dhabi yesterday and Pakistan A won the match. 😀

    Imran Nazir once and Imran Farhat once again failing as openers, even against the kids team. Abdul Razzaq played down the order and remained 39 not out in 17 balls at a strike rate of 229 what a waste! Shouldn’t they learn from this? Razzaq needs to play higher up. In some matches he may not even get a chance to bat if he plays at number 8.

    Mohammad Talha about whom there was so much talk that he is great and so and so….. gave away 44 runs in 3 overs. Mohammad Hafeez smashed him all over the places.

  128. #128 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 18, 2010 - 3:49 AM

    I never visited the blog called “PakPassion” until today. Up till now, I was under the impression that it is a reputable blog with some quality articles in it. Here is the title of one of the articles, watch out for the spellings and grammatical blasphemies and, not to mention the “kwalty” or the substance of the so called, “Artical”:

    **************

    Artical on Ijaz Butt and his flaws. – Not serious about Butt of all jokes”

    It is amazing how the president continues to ignore the failings of an unfit PCB chief

    It is difficult to imagine if someone as beleaguered as the chairman of Pakistan Cricket Board would survive in office after a reign of terrible miscalls and misjudgments in any other country.
    As cheeky teeny boppers are wont to say, it happens only in Pakistan!

    Serious observers argue that to begin with it is about having a modicum of self-respect even if institutional accountability is lacking. By now, it is abundantly clear to all and sundry that Ejaz Butt is not listening. He seems to have this misplaced manifestation of steely nerves which, for instance, made former “Iron Lady” Margaret Thatcher famous for throwing down the gauntlet to her critics thus: “This lady is not for turning, you turn”!
    Last week, a leading Pakistani private TV channel ran a marathon live show, which it billed as Cricket Ka Muqadma (the case of cricket), symbolising — if anything — how cricket is more than just a game or pastime in the South Asian nation of 170mn people.

    The show drew former greats, including Pakistan’s only World Cup-winning captain Imran Khan and batting maestro Javed Miandad, ex-chiefs of Pakistan Cricket Board, members of its governing board, the chairman of the parliamentary committee on sports and eminent sports journalists for an incisive debate on how and why Pakistan Cricket has hit the nadir.

    The one person central to the discussion however, was conspicuous by his absence. The vacant seat of Ejaz Butt was in itself an indictment of his role in taking Pakistan cricket down with him and only served to make light of the somewhat appropriate surname he has.

    As articulated with some conviction by Imran Khan, the omens were strewn in the ad hoc nature of things — Pakistan Cricket Board has been without a constitution for the last 11 years — where the country’s president, gets to appoint an individual of his choice for the most coveted post in the Pakistani sporting arena.

    Amazingly, President Asif Zardari continues to ignore mounting public pressure to sack Butt regardless of how his pathetic leadership has taken a heavy toll on the fortunes of Pakistan cricket. This has led the connoisseurs and Pakistani fans alike to infer only one conclusion from the lack of initiative on the part of the board’s patron-in-chief: politicking.

    Ejaz Butt is the brother-in-law of Defence Minister Chaudhary Ahmed Mukhtar, a close aide of the president. The current PCB chairman was appointed — some say to placate Mukhtar after he lost the race to become the country’s prime minister — following the resignation of Dr Nasim Ashraf, another non-cricketing personality, whose own tenure was a disaster but appears to be an aberration compared to the walking misfortune that is Butt.
    In his 16 months in office, Pakistan was stripped of World Cup hosting rights after the unfortunate terrorist attack on the visiting Sri Lankan team with not a single country willing to tour anymore, changed four captains, three coaches, more managers and assistant managers than one can easily remember and lost half a dozen ex-greats in important administrative positions in the board thanks to his interference in their work.
    Butt is also accused of nepotism, financial corruption and abuse of authority. Worse still, he is reported to be physically unfit to hold office with no less than Javed Miandad, the sitting director general of the board, citing evidence of embarrassingly poor memory and lack of interest.

    At 72, Butt is also said to be hard of hearing and not being able to walk properly. Last year, he was also shown on TV asking scribes the score during a match Pakistan was playing. Not surprisingly, he has in recent times refused to appear on television or give interviews despite great demand.

    It says something for his stewardship that the Pakistani team is hopelessly divided into groups, who appear to be having a field day with one senior player laying it on thick on another in full public view.
    As well so utterly lacking is common sense that Butt announced Mohammad Yousuf would be replaced by a younger player as captain even as he readied to take on Ricky Ponting’s merry band for a series of five One Day Internationals last month!

    The PCB chief had still to recover from the gaffe when Shahid Afridi, leading after Yousuf was forced to rest for the last ODI, decided to treat a cricket ball as little more than a cherry with his teeth — overlooking the presence of 27 cameras in an apparently, desperate attempt to win at least one match on the worst tour made by a Pakistani team down under.

    So chaotic is the situation that Butt has had to reappoint Shoaib Malik — currently, himself under scrutiny for allegedly destroying team unity ever since he was stood down last March — as captain all over again!

    In order to divert public pressure, the PCB chairman set up an inquiry committee made up of his own cronies to dissect the losses on the recently concluded tour down under. However, even before the committee could produce a report, it became evident why a demoralised Pakistani team had lost the will to fight as Yousuf without naming Shoaib Malik spoke of his anguish at the latter’s alleged role in creating divisions within the team.
    Malik shot back with a rejoinder in asking the media why the team had fought so well in the last two matches of the tour
    but did not show the same spirit in the seven straight losses before. He then himself preferred the answer: it was because one particular player was not in the side. No prizes for guessing the pot shot was aimed at Yousuf.
    Malik also requested to be allowed to appear before the inquiry committee “because there should be someone to report about those reporting”. He made little secret of his disdain for Yousuf by suggesting Shahid Afridi should be the captain.

    While this damaging game between the team’s senior players was being played in full public view, Butt was busy scurrying to the presidency for a meeting, which was cancelled in intriguing circumstances.
    In a game for survival, hardly any of the protagonists appear fit — least of all Butt.

  129. #129 by newguy on February 18, 2010 - 4:21 AM

    If anyone following Ind-SA test then I declare at this point the match is going in to a draw. India lost 2 sessions yesterday due to rain and bad light, even though they may get full day today, SA is blocking every ball and have no interest in taking any risks. At the most they will lose 1 or 2 wickets is what my prediction is. Pitch is not turning or allowing swing, to make matters Zaheer Khan is not bowling as he injured his knee yesterday, he was one bowler who could have provided some breakthroughs. There is nothing left to watch since SA is blocking and going at snail pace. I am off to bed.

  130. #130 by newguy on February 18, 2010 - 10:57 AM

    What a match between India and SA!

    Last pair hung on for over an hour and with just two overs to go India picks last wicket to win the test.

    Classic.

  131. #131 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 18, 2010 - 2:04 PM

    newguy

    This is how one’s perception changes when he sees the full picture. A while ago you were disappointed that nothing is happening and the test will end in a draw. But, things changed and came so close to an exciting finish and in the end India prevailed. Credit goes to Amla for his superb batting form. He is miles ahead of others in this series at least in terms of averages (average of 281 runs and, the second highest on both sides is in 90’s). He was twice not out, one in double hundred and again this century 123*, total three centuries great form, he deserved the MOM & POS award.

    Somehow I had a feeling that in the end SA will crumble and they did, only Amla defended till the very end. If he had saved it, he would have become an immortal figure in SA cricket. And, that would have dented India’s psyche. It is also a good thing that Amla has been retained for the ODI’s as well, otherwise they had labeled him as a test player only. JP Duminy’s form is just like Mohammad Ashraful of BD, both are scoring in single digits, totally hopeless these days………….. Anyways, congratulations to you on India’s win and leveling the series.

  132. #132 by newguy on February 18, 2010 - 2:54 PM

    Javed,

    Yes, I had reasons to believe they could draw because the pitch was good if batsmen concentrated and Zaheer was not bowling. Anyhow, SA batsmen except Amla did not had the power of concentration. Amla looks so composed at the crease, nothing disturbs him. I believe he is also a very religious man and his meditation powers must be helping him concentrate his mind and keep a level head. It’s good to see that he does not wear it on his sleeve by exposing in public.

    I would say Indians just about managed to escape, and lot remains unanswered by Dhoni’s safety first approach captaincy. But now that they won no one will question it.

  133. #133 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 19, 2010 - 1:54 AM

    Miandad says he cannot accept the coaching job because of his family commitments whereas, Wasim Akram says he has has commentary assignments, basically it is all about MONEY for him. And, he is trying to push his comrade in betting Ijaz Ahmad to remain as a coach for Pakistan team.

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/sport/12-coaches-and-captaincy-miandad%2C-wasim-discuss-options-820–bi-07

  134. #135 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 19, 2010 - 1:49 PM

    The cricinfo awards talk show is going on and the so-called Einstein like judges are sussing out from public reaction who should get the awards based on popularity of emails and comments? Instead of making a fair assessment and judgment based on the facts and stats for choosing the best T20 player by using the last T20WC in which Dilshan was given player of the tournament award for scoring most runs. But, what these people fail to understand is, Dilshan failed to deliver the goods when it mattered most. He was out on a DUCK in the final.

    Whereas, Afridi played well in the semis and final and in both matches he got player of the match award, in fact he played 3 consecutive matches very well i.e., against New Zealand, South Africa and Sri Lanka in the final. He scored 176 with an average of 37 runs and took 11 wickets with the leading wicket taker of the tournament Umar Gul, who took 13 wickets.

    Once again they will bring the ball chewing incident (which has no relation to this) to find an excuse and award it Dilshan or Gayle for their high scores in one match and ignoring the ZERO when it mattered most. So, how can you call him the best player of the tournament when he could not deliver it when needed? Dilshan has taken zero wickets Afridi has taken 11, even if you count one wicket = 20 runs, it is 220 and his score of 176 runs makes 396 as opposed to Dilshan’s 317. Dilshan took 3 catches in the tournament and so did Shahid Afridi, he also took 3 catches and his catch to dismiss Styris was unmatchable by any player. To me if this was not the case of discrimination, it was definitely favourtism and nepotism.

  135. #136 by newguy on February 19, 2010 - 8:42 PM

    Relax Javed Khan, Afridi won, for the best ODI bowling, and Gul won for best T20 bowling. These are well deserving.

  136. #137 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 19, 2010 - 9:59 PM

    newguy

    I am a very relaxed person may be my writing gives another impression to the readers, but trust me I am very cool. 🙂 I still insist that Afridi should have got the best all-rounder award for T20.

    In today’s match against England, this was expected, I mean Pakistan’s defeat was expected, especially when their top three players are regularly not scoring. And, much before the match started I told one of my friends that Eoin Morgan will destroy Pakistan’s weak bowling attack and he did. And, Malik’s captaincy was just as bad as Yousuf’s. He must be personally very happy to be the top scorer but, that is not what is expected from a captain.

    Imran Nazir should be given one more chance tomorrow and if he fails, I guess his career is over. Scoring 2, 3 is not even worth the selection in the squad, Imran Farhat should not be in ANY squad. And, I don’t understand why Khalid Latif is playing? Is he Rashid Latif’s brother? If yes, then this BhaiBandagi and Bhai Chaaploosi must end. Perhaps in tomorrow’s match with Afridi’s inclusion things might change! Lets see.

  137. #138 by sana on April 5, 2010 - 4:25 PM

    new cricket match is now live sania shoaib and maha!

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