The Nishan e Haider

The Nishan-e-Haider is Pakistan’s highest military award, bestowed to those brave men that have displayed the highest standards of gallantry fighting for Pakistan in battle. At Edgbaston Pakistan are fighting a battle they are unlikely to win, but all is fair in love and war and any act of bravely, heroism or class should be appreciated, notwithstanding the likely result of this largely one-sided contest.

Zulqernain Haider’s 88 has been made fighting against the toughest seam and swing bowling imaginable. Pakistan started this innings with a seemingly insurmountable lead of 179. The batting order collapsed. In came Zulqernian. He could have been dismissed on his first delivery, but the Review System saved him.

Perhaps it was divine intervention, or perhaps the spectre of destiny was calling upon him to carve his name in the annals of legend. And

Haider's knock was a palatable mixture of workmanship, fluency and at times, genius

that is what he did.

Haider played with a straight bat. He waited for the ball to reach the bat. He confronted the onslaught of outswing by opening the face of the bat and using timing to nudge the ball around and find gaps. His temperament was flawless, unflappable. At times, you saw a touch of genius; perfect timing, boundless confidence and treatment of balls with disdain. This was a man who had waited years to represent his country at international level and who has replaced a man, Akmal, whom many considered irreplaceable. The odds were stacked heavily against Haider. Were he out on the first ball in his second innings as well, his career would probably have been buried with his dismissal. But, providence had other plans for him. Rather than seeing Zulqernain’s career disappear in obscurity, we saw one of the most memorable debuts by a Pakistani cricketer.

Cricket has always provided Pakistanis with a distraction to the corruption, lawlessness, injustice and unhappiness the country has witnessed since its birth. Cricket and Islam are the two topics that unite this land of 160 million people of various ethnicities, social and economic backgrounds.

More than reverse swing, Pakistan's greatest gift to the cricketing world has been the production of these fairy tales

Cricket is as inextricable from Pakistani society as religion. Yet, at times you feel the two concepts converge. Channel your memories back to the final in UAE when Pakistan needed 4 runs to win from the last ball. Thousands of people in the ground and millions beyond it, were praying for a miracle. You saw men, women, children in the ground with their hands cupped and joined together in prayer. Miandad created history, and changed the course of Pakistan-India cricket with his sixer. Channel your memories back to the World Cup 1992 final, when Wasim Akram’s two unplayable and unprecedented deliveries changed the course of the match and placed victory in Pakistan’s lap. The match in 1996 in Nairobi, when a 16 year old  boy struck the fastest century in international cricket, changing the art of modern batting. The Test match in 2009 when a middle order batsman who had never opened in his life and who had been ignored by selectors for three years was made a sacrificial lamb, and he responded by hitting an impeccable 168.

It is these occasions that makes you feel Pakistan cricket has some mystical connection with divinity.

There have been many Pakistani players who have accomplished amazing feats in their debut Test but then have vanished into oblivion. However, Haider’s superb knock is all the more prominent due to its context; this is amongst the worst tours the Pakistan team has had. It is unclear whether Haider will go on to become a great, or whether he will perish soon as many of his contemporaries.

Pakistan cricket fans have never been more upset with the team. Pakistan as a nation has been ravaged by floods, extreme weather, poverty, terrorism, corruption and mismanagement by its governments. But in the midst of gloom and woe, Haider has provided a bleeding nation with a smile, and a  reason to hope- hope that the country will keep producing talented youngsters who will shock the world in the dawn of their careers. And hope that their country will keep shocking the world by producing real life fairy tales. This is Pakistan’s forte, its strength, its identity. And this is perhaps the product of a blind faith in religion; in illogical, unscientific tales of myth, folklore and of miracle.

  1. #1 by khansahab on August 8, 2010 - 6:42 PM

    On the above link there is an interesting background into Zulqernain Haider.

  2. #2 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 8, 2010 - 9:55 PM


    Yeah, I have read that interview and his background is not only humble but, sad with his mother passing away due to cancer and father currently in hospital with a bleeding ulcer and Hep C and earlier sister going through the ordeals of typhoid and his determination to play cricket and excel in it is remarkable. I saw him batting live on TV and he showed a great temperament and courage, played shots according to merit and was never bogged down or carried away. Its rather sad that he could not make a century on debut, I wish him good luck for his other matches and if he can focus a little more on his keeping he can definitely be a better wicketkeeper/batsman than Akmal at test level. One also needs to see him play in the shorter version of the game especially T20 and see how he can switch gears and adapt his batting style to become more aggressive. He certainly pulls and cuts with a lot of power as I saw his boundaries were very sharp and fast, so he does have the ability to play good cricketing shots and in a 50 over match he could definitely be more useful than Akmal. He is definitely a better batsman than Sarfaraz Ahmad too especially with his straight bat shots used both in defense and aggression.

    One good thing that has happened with this knock is, it is the end of farcical era of Akmal who was considered as invincible.

  3. #3 by khansahab on August 8, 2010 - 9:57 PM

    The above link is yesterday’s interview with Saeed Ajmal. It is interesting, please listen to it.

  4. #4 by Varun Suri on August 8, 2010 - 10:53 PM

    Today after so many days it has been a day of glimmer and hope amongst all the well wishers of Pakistani Cricket Team when a debutant Zulqernain Haider appeared as a Divine Angel and provided some reason to celebrate and be optimistic about their future.

    I hope if Pakistan goes on to win this Test Match then the doors are shut for Khatmal forever and the sooner Shoaib Malik takes retirement (and maybe follow the footsteps of Wasim Chakram and comes to India and becomes a regular 3rd Page Celebrity ) the better it will be for Pakistani Cricket.

    There is all the more reason to celebrate when one reads more about the background of this young man.

    khansahab has written a brilliant tribute to him and provided some information about nishan-e-haidar which i did not know and it is not surprising that on the Indian side also they have a similar medal called PVC i.e. Paramvir Chakra!!

    I totally agree about the Divine aspect of the Pakistani Team, there is something about them which no other team possess but unfortunately in the current times or rather in the Butt Times the Butterfly effect has been so great that no Divine Intervention has been able to simply comprehend with the kind of decisions they have taken and hence the results are for all of us to see.

  5. #5 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 9, 2010 - 10:06 AM


    This page 3 has something to do in most newspapers. In Dubai (perhaps Munir will vouch) it used to be Khaleej Times where, if one is reported on page 3 means it has something to do with morals. Usually the news is about an expat is caught by the Labour or Immigration Dept. working illegally without a visa or no visa, a Russian Sharmoota caught soliciting business at Naser Square, a desi caught smuggling drugs or, something similar but, the funny thing is they used to publish a picture with eyes blacked out by a black marker i.e., to keep privacy of the culprit, it is just like the Mask of Zoro, as if no one can recognize that legend when he wears a mask over his eyes only. Either they are all fools or, we still are to watch Antonio Bandera with that mask, I may have seen that movie because of Zeta Jones, who appears a different woman in every movie. She and that Dick Cruise’s ex-wife whatever her name is. She also looks different in every movie.

    My Urdu is not bad but, pretty seldom I get a chance to read any text in Urdu these days. Reading an Urdu newspaper especially JANG newspaper (now all of them follow the same suit) is like solving a puzzle or putting pieces of Lego in the right slot. There are hundreds of stories or news items on the front page with a headline and the news starts in a fine print and then it is written in Urdu, “is ka baqi hissa safa 17 per” meaning the rest of the story is on page 17.

    Moin Akhtar the legendary TV– stage actor once made a very funny comment on this subject, in one of his TV shows: He showed one of the Urdu Daily newspapers with the face of a woman and below it was written, “iska baqi hissa safa 17 per hai.” 😀 I wonder in how many parts Wasim Chakram is displayed in Indian newspapers? He should be awarded Pseudovir Chakra for his constipated intellectualism. I think in India the sports personalities get “Arjuna Award” named after the legendary archer of Mahabharata Arjun or Arjuna. Sachin Tendulkar’s son is also named Arjun I guess? In Pakistan, is it “Pride of Performance Award” that is given to sports personalities? I am not too sure but, singers and Qawals do get this award.

  6. #6 by Mohammed Munir on August 9, 2010 - 10:24 AM

    Khansahab …

    A very passionately written and absolutely fantastic piece of enthusiastic, optimistic and agile journalism. Not only did I absolutely enjoy reading your new thread, but I was also hoping for some divine intervention once again and finding our lost cricketing glory.

    I wish best of luck to ZulQarnain Haider.

    Javed Khan & Khansahab …

    Thanks for your warm welcomes, and yes I had a great family vacation. First of all, I went to Sydney for 4 days, then Gold Coast for 10 days and finally Singapore for 5 days before returning back to Sharjah, UAE. It was a long vacation, to a far away country (Australia), with a big family (7 members), but we all really enjoyed every minute of it. The only concern was that in spite of me being a banker, I well exceeded my budget. 😉

    It’s a good feeling being back on LS. 😀

  7. #7 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 9, 2010 - 12:09 PM


    I hope you went to see the Great Barrier Reef? There is nothing like it in the whole world, unfortunately it is in danger now….. IF, I ever go to Australia I will not miss a chance of going to North East Australia and Queensland to see the GBR also, I won’t miss visiting Kakadu National Park. It is like going to California and not seeing the Red Wood Forest.

    England is surely and definitely inching towards another victory against the nothing players. As long as the Maliks, Akmals and Farhats are there, there is no chance of finding another Zulqarnain Haider. Mediocre players like Umar Amin Sifarishi Tuttoo or son-in-laws of selectors and Sialkots will be dominating the fall and fall of Pakistan test cricket.

    What I wrote in the previous thread about Mohammad Yousuf i.e., when he arrived a day before the test match they said, he has missed the practice session and he has not played international cricket so they wanted to give him rest for the second test. I not only passed sarcastic comments by saying it is more important for Yousuf to catch up with some sleep rather than taking that fielding practice session where in one day you cannot make him Jonty Rhodes and I also wrote a joke about the Martians and earth link couple. Now the so-called Asian “Done Breadman” MCBC Ch2So4 Sir Zaheer Abbass is asking the same question, “why is he not included in the team when they have sent him in such a hurry?” The reaction time of Zaheer is slowing down because he is suffering from “Old-Timerz” disease.

  8. #8 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 9, 2010 - 3:01 PM

    ENGLAND WON the match with ease by 9 wickets. Swan is the player of the match he took 6 wickets in the second innings, whereas Saeed Ajmal was blabbing in that interview in his PUNJABISH that Pakastan need a lead of 150 runs only to bowl England out in the 4th innings. IF WISHES WERE HORSES EVERYONE WOULD HAVE BEEN RIDING ON THEM. So, England were 118/1, if Pakastan had made 150 then 9 more V-cuts would have fallen in 31 runs? IF pigs could fly …….

  9. #9 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 9, 2010 - 3:10 PM


    So, what will be the course of action for the 3rd match now? Will they play only Yousuf or call Younus Khan and Fawad Alam as well? Waddee Butt needs to decide that.

    Ijaz Butt had 2 chamchas, Yawar Saeed and Dilawar Saeed and they used to go with him everywhere. Whenever people used to see them, they used to say, “Here comes Ijaz Butt with his two assholes.”

    One day Ijaz Butt died in a terrible accident and his face got burnt beyond recognition so the ME wanted the body to be recognized by someone close to him, they heard about Yawar Saeed and Dilawar Saeed and called them to identify the body. Yawar Saeed came and asked the ME to turn the body and looked into Ijaz’s Butt and said, “No its not Ijaz Butt.” They called Dilawar Saeed, he too did the same asked for turning the body over looked into Ijaz’s Butt and said, NO thats not him.

    The ME got curious and asked him why did you both ask to turn the body and looked into his ass? They said, Ijaz Butt had 2 assholes ask anyone they used to say, “Here come Ijaz Butt with his two (2) assholes.

  10. #10 by khansahab on August 9, 2010 - 5:41 PM

    Has Aamer Sohail been reading LS?

    Inzamam to blame for dearth of batting talent in Pak team: Sohail

    KARACHI: Pakistan’s former Test captain, Aamir Sohail feels the country’s most capped player Inzamam-ul Haq is responsible for the dearth of quality batsmen in the national team.

    Sohail said by the time Inzamam retired he had disturbed the national team and left it facing numerous problems.

    “When Imran Khan retired, he left behind a pack of quality bowlers, when Javed Miandad retired he left behind a legacy of good batsmen but when Inzamam retired he left behind nothing,” Sohail said.

    Sohail said during Inzamam’s tenure as captain, no batsman was allowed to settle down or groomed to take over when the big guns retired.

    “Good players like Yasir Hameed, Asim Kamal, Faisal Iqbal, Taufiq Umar or Hasan Reza who had done well in the chances given to them were never allowed to settle down in the team and establish themselves,” he explained.

    “The result is that today we don’t have a ready line of batsmen to replace seniors. That is why I blame Inzamam for the current crisis in the team,” Sohail said.

    Inzamam, who played 120 Tests and 398 one-day internationals, retired in 2007 after having remained captain since 2003.

    Sohail also lashed out at the national selectors and the management of the team for misleading the board into believing that there was enough back up talent to replace experienced players like Muhammad Yousuf, Younis Khan or Faisal Iqbal.

    “The truth is they misled the PCB chairman into believing that he could manage the national team without Yousuf and Younis and that is why we are facing problems in England today,” Sohail said

  11. #11 by M. Y. Kasim on August 9, 2010 - 6:29 PM

    Javed A. Khan and Munir Sahab,

    The reason the I believe Dhu l Qarnayn (Zulqarnain) and Alexander were two different personalities is based on the following conclusions.

    Although Alexander was a disciple of Aristotle, who along with Socreates, Plato and several other philosophers were “Seekers of Truth”, Alexander was Pagan and proclaimed himself to be the son of Jupitor Ammon, which dis-qualify him to be Honourably mentioned in the Holy Qur’aan. Furhermore, his quest and mission was War and Conquest in sharp contrast to that of Zulqarnain, who has been portrait as a Just, Benign and Benevolent King who helped people against oppression and helped them against their oppressors-the building of the “Iron Gate” or Barrier or Wall.

    Walla hu alam bis sawab… God Almighty knows best.

    The other thing I wish to mention is a little indroduction about Muhammad Asad. He was born a Jew in Austria and worked as a war correspondent for a leading newspaper “Zietung” something(I ca’n recall the full name) during the World War I and was posted in the Middle East. After war and defeat and collapse of the Ottoman Empire, he stayed there and converted to Islam and be-friended the Ruler of Najd, Ibn Saud and worked for him in an advisory capacity and saw Ibn Saud conquer Hejez and the warring tribes and rulers of the rest of the Arabian Peninsula and united the whole country into the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

    I have read his other book “Road to Mecca” which makes interesting reading.

  12. #12 by M. Y. Kasim on August 9, 2010 - 6:36 PM

    I have been in-disposed for a couple of days now and still not fully at my best so I missed most of the Second Test.

    In any case it is not worth wasting my time and whatever energy I have left. LOL.

  13. #13 by M. Y. Kasim on August 9, 2010 - 6:59 PM

    Another thing. How do you get those Sad, Smiling, Winking faces Icons?

  14. #14 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 9, 2010 - 7:47 PM

    Mr. Kasim

    for icons you have to use for e.g., : and D without space and if you do it it looks like this 😀
    For a sad face you need to type : and ( without any space and if you do it looks like this 😦

    For a wink it is ; and ) if you do this it looks like 😉

    To highlight word you have to use these greater than this and lower than this brackets which are pointing arrows in different directions, if I type here it will mess up, so use it and see but you have to type b in those brackets for bold and to end u ‘ve to type /b in those brackets.

  15. #15 by Mohammed Munir on August 10, 2010 - 4:12 AM

    Kasim Sahab …

    Nice to read your comments on DhulQarnain/ Alexandar.

    On second Tests, well I would say you just did a good thing by missing it. 😉

    About the icons (smiling, sad, winks) faces, althouhg Javed have explained it above, but I would like to add that you simply place your ‘cursor’ (computer arrow) on any icon and it will show the actual ‘signs’.

    Have a look …



    Hope you got the drift 😉

  16. #16 by Mohammed Munir on August 10, 2010 - 4:52 AM

    Javed Khan …

    I am sure the MF Wadda BC (____|____) will not call Younis Khan back and neither will they call Fawad Alam for the Tests.

    The only change for the third Test will be Mohammed Yousuf and ‘may be’, a big ‘MAY BE’ they can give a chance to Yasir Hameed because with Gul expected to be out of the third Test due to his injury, PCB would like to include at least one non-Punjabi player in the playing eleven.

    Ijaz BC Butt is the highly egoistic idiot who is running PCB like a personal vendetta against any players he doesn’t like. I think Younis Khan is already in UK and is playing county cricket there, while sometime back Younis also announced that given a chance he is available for the country, but this MF Butt is settling his own personal scores with Younis Khan and he is least bothered about Cricket or even country.

    The irony is that Pakistan lost the first Test only and only due to our poor batting performance clubbed with some below standard fieldings whereas our bowling was very good, but PCB went ahead with changing ‘Danny Buoy’ and they kept the entire batting lineup intact for the second match. How smart is that ❓

    If it was my choice, I would have definitely included Younis Khan, Mohammed Yousuf, Yasir Hameed and Fawad Alam for the third Tests by replacing Azhar Ali, Umer Amin, Imran Farhat and Shoaib Malik respectively, whereas if Gul is injured then he also needs to be replaced by any decent bowler.

    LOL @ your joke about Ijaz Butt’s two assholes. 😀

  17. #17 by khansahab on August 10, 2010 - 6:27 AM

    There are rumours that Malik may not get a central contract with PCB after this series.

    Why do they have to wait after the series?

    He should be sent back to Pakistan and humiliated the same way Kaneria has been.

    Or at the very least he should be dropped.

    Kaneria made his Test debut before Malik and from that perspective he is a more senior player than Malik, but he did not deserve the humiliation.

    This is just another ploy by PCB to keep Malik in the team. If he scores 35 in one inning his contract will be secure. There have been players who are called up for Pakistan without a contract, but a player who has been dropped is harder to get called up again in the near future.

  18. #18 by Mohammed Munir on August 10, 2010 - 9:54 AM

    Bring Back Younis Khan and Fawad Alam into Pakistan Test Cricket Team.

    On line petition to bring Younis and Fawad back. Please Sign.

  19. #19 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 10, 2010 - 1:29 PM


    Fawad Alam is also in the UK and playing cricket, in the previous thread khansahab has copy pasted a news item about Fawad Alam in the UK, read that


    u see there is an on-line petition to bring back Younus and Fawad Alam, we have been talking about this on-line petition for the last 5 to 6 weeks, haven’t we?

  20. #20 by Varun Suri on August 10, 2010 - 3:39 PM

    LOL at India’s performance today 🙂

    This is something which we will have to get used to also maybe in the tests in the coming future once the senior batsmen retire.

    Pakistan ko akele thode hi chhod sakte hai, saare Records bananne ke liye…akhir Genetically to hum same hi hai .

  21. #21 by M. Y. Kasim on August 10, 2010 - 6:49 PM

    Amid all the calamity of floods, death and destruction and frustration let me lighten up a little with a joke told by that Moeen Akhtar in a show.

    A milkman had 20 buffalos and a goat. Then suddenly a desease spread throughout the area and all livestock were dying because of this.

    The milkman went to the Imam of local Mosque to seek his help. The Imam told him to offer two Rak’aat Nawafil after every Prayers. The milkman followed the Imam’s advise and did that after Maghrib prayers. That night, two of his twenty buffalow died during the night.

    The milkman again went to the Imam and sought his guidance and the Imam told him to continue praying two extra Rak’aat Nawafil as usual. Within ten days, all his herds had died and he was returning home sad and frustrated 😦

    As soon as he entered his compound, the goat called out Baaaaah:D

    Whereupon, the milkman yelled, wait, let me perform the Wudu (Ablution), you are not strong enough to survive even one Rak’aat 😉

  22. #22 by khansahab on August 10, 2010 - 7:18 PM

    What a performance from India. No Tendulkar and no Gambhir, hence no stability.

  23. #23 by khansahab on August 10, 2010 - 7:18 PM

    Poverty in Pak reduced by 50 percent in Musharraf’s regime: World Bank report

    2010-08-10 16:00:00
    A World Bank survey has revealed that poverty in Pakistan had reduced by 50 percent under former President Pervez Musharraf’s government.

    “The percentage of the people living below the poverty line in Pakistan fell from 34.5 percent in 2001-02 to 17.2 percent in 2007-08,” The News quoted the World Bank, as saying in its Country Partnership Strategy (CPS) paper.

    The CPS is based on a survey conducted in fiscal year 2007-2008.

    The survey stated that poverty in urban areas fell from 22.7 percent in 2001-02 to 10.1 percent in 2007-08, while in rural areas, it declined from 39.3 percent in 2001-02 to 20.6 percent in 2007-08.

    “This progress was a result of growth in real per adult consumption expenditure and declining inequality from 2005-06 to 2007-08,” the report said.

    A World Bank official said that key human development indicators of educational attainment, health outcomes and unemployment rates also corroborated these figures.

    The 2007-08 household survey results also suggest that poverty started rising towards the end of the fiscal year.

    Officials said that the impact of the recent economic downturn on poverty levels in the country would only be known when the next household survey is conducted. (ANI)

  24. #24 by khansahab on August 10, 2010 - 9:13 PM

    Parliamentarian demands PCB chairman’s removal

    A Pakistani parliamentarian wants President Asif Ali Zardari to remove Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Ijaz Butt, whom he blames for the national team turning into a “minnow.”
    In a two-page letter to Zardari, also patron of the PCB, Iqbal Mohammad Ali claimed that incompetence by 72-year-old Butt has brought enough shame for Pakistan in international cricket.

    The letter was written last month, and a copy was made available to The Associated Press on Tuesday.

    Butt replaced Nasim Ashraf as PCB chairman in 2008, and since then he has been severely criticized by members of standing committees of sports in both upper and lower houses of parliament.

    Ali, who heads the sports committee of the lower house, said in the letter that the standard of the national team had deteriorated since Butt took charge, and “now Pakistan cricket team is considered just like minnows.”

  25. #25 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 11, 2010 - 4:34 AM


    They just equaled 88 runs record wait for the next match they might level the 72 runs all out as well. I saw the score when Sehwag and Karthik both started and it was something in twenties without loss and I said to myself, they will make it. It is past midnight I just came home after a very, very hectic day and was shocked to see they were all out on 88.

    The tallest Pakistani fast bowler Mohammed Irfan is now in auction for IPL upon Wasim Chakram’s recommendation. Chakram takes credit for every new fast bowler especially if he is a lefty then he owns him with a rubber stamp. How long is he going to do this? They start saying it is Wasim Akram’s find. Unnecessary credit, undue advantage, free sponsorship and he likes to decorate medals on his own chest.

  26. #26 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 11, 2010 - 4:36 AM

    Mr. Kasim

    I told this joke to Moin Akhtar, because this is something I know when I was in college and there is no one rakat, there is always 2 rakats so the punch line was "Abay tu tou 2 rakat ka bhee nahee hai.

    Btw, Aap sab ko RAMADAN MUBARAK HO


  27. #27 by Mohammed Munir on August 11, 2010 - 5:54 AM


    – May this Ramadan be the one we benefit fully from and whereby we increase in our ‘Emaan’ and ‘Taqwa’… Aameen.

    – May our acts of worship multiply abundantly… Aameen.

    – May we increase in righteous actions, and do good deeds sincerely for Allah Alone… Aameen.

    – May our characters become beautified, our hearts become connected upon this ‘Haqq’ and we fulfill each others rights with happiness… Aameen.

    – May Allah forgive us of our sins and have mercy on us all… Aameen.

    – May Allah accept all our good deeds and charities in this month… Aameen.

    – May we be saved from the punishment of the fire, and enter paradise… Aameen.

    Please also make Special Prayers for all our Muslim Brothers and Sisters facing difficulties around the world. ‘Iftaar’ time is the best time for our ‘Duas’ to be accepted. Count your blessings for all the favours Allah has given you and think how the destitute are struggling around the world tonight and every night.

  28. #28 by Mohammed Munir on August 11, 2010 - 8:22 AM

    Kasmi Sahab …

    Nice to see you using the 😉 & 🙂

    Varun Suri …

    LOL @ “Pakistan ko akele thode hi chhod sakte hai, saare Records bananne ke liye…akhir Genetically to hum same hi hai”.

    Well said sir, very well said.

    We scored 72 for all out, but seeing the differences between NZ and England bowling attack and also considering English and Sri Lankan playing conditions, the efforts of Indian team (in matching their neighbours) are highly regarded by Pakistani fans. 😆

    Omer Adman …

    Where are you hiding these days? Hope all is well with your exams 😉

  29. #29 by Mohammed Munir on August 11, 2010 - 8:28 AM

    Another Oopps …. Kasim Sahab.

    PS: I think this first ‘fasting’ of Ramadan is effecting me already. 😉

  30. #30 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 11, 2010 - 1:15 PM

    PS: I think this first ‘fasting’ of Ramadan is effecting me already. 😉 Munir

    Munir its not just fasting, iss Omer may aisa hota hai 😉

    The difference between the Pakistani ex-players and us here on LS is, we talk about the problems before the result, whereas they talk after the results.
    Now Moin Khan and Zaheer Abbass are saying that Zulqarnain has great future and Pakistan test cricket has no future. Also, the PCB is NOW thinking of not renewing Shoaib Malik’s central contract…….. they don’t need to think, the MUST cancel it now and send him back home – Sialkot. Jithay di khotee uthay aan khalotee.

  31. #31 by M. Y. Kasim on August 11, 2010 - 1:38 PM

    In my anxiety to try-out various tools suggested by Javed A. Khan Munir Sahab, I missed out certain words/phrase such as that and .

    Punch line was since two rakats were needed for two buffaloes 😀

    It was a common joke among us friends that instead of saying we used to taunt each other thus since two rakats are normal wereas it will take only one rakat to fail.

    How this joke came upto my mind? Simple.


  32. #32 by M. Y. Kasim on August 11, 2010 - 1:48 PM

    I mean That Great Comedian.

    Punch line was one rakat since two rakats were needed for two buffalos.

    It was a common joke among us friendds that ” Mian, yeh tumhare bas ka rog hahin” and replaced with “Mian tum to ek rakat ke bhi nahin ho”

    How this joke came upto my mind? Simple.

    None of our batsmen are worth even a single rakat.

  33. #33 by M. Y. Kasim on August 11, 2010 - 3:46 PM

    Javed A. Khan,

    You were wondering about the name of Tom Cruises’ ex-wife. Her name is Nicole Kidman and she too is an Australian. Beside being an accomplished actress, she has a beutiful voice. You may recall that the female voice in the movie was hers.

    My favorites are, among others

    I never did like and I abhore She knows nothing about acting. All she has are sexy body and

  34. #34 by M. Y. Kasim on August 11, 2010 - 3:51 PM

    The movie refers to is “Finding Nemo”

    My favorites are Susan Srandon and Sandra Bullock.

    I never did like Julia Roberts and I abhore Angelina Jollie.

    Sexy body and Bradd Pitt.

    I am still struggling to master the art of various tools !!!

  35. #35 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 11, 2010 - 3:53 PM

    LOL Mr. Kasim

    Yes, Pakistani players are not worth one rakaat but they pray 40 nafils (balls) and score no runs! I hate to see when Imran Farhat is playing, he keeps leaving every single ball out side the off stump for overs and overs and then suddenly there is rush of blood, he slashes and gives a simple catch to the keeper or the slip fielder.

  36. #36 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 11, 2010 - 5:30 PM

    Mr. Kasim

    Thanks for the name Nicole Kidman, who looks different in each movie, its not that I don’t remember her name but, that moment I was in a hurry and did not bother to think. Also, when I wrote about Zeta Jones that she looks different each time, actually I meant Renee Zellweger and not Zeta Jones, I confused her name with the movie Chicago in which both of them played a role along with Richard Gere.

    I don’t have any favourites, Julia Roberts has a big mouth which opens from East Coast to West Coast. Angelina Jolie got stung by a bee on her lips and they are perpetually swollen ( I read somewhere, she Botoxed her lips) Musharraf had a picture taken with her when she was sent to Pakistan and Afghanistan as an ambassador of peace. She looked better in Shalwar Kameez. And Sandra Bullock acts like a teenager in every movie. Cameron Diaz had a nice smile with deep dimples but, she is not a good actress, she always plays sexy role models. And KT (Kate Winslet) improved her acting since Titanic but, we hardly get to see her movies anymore. Besides, me I am not a movie freak. The last movie I saw on big screen (on IMAX screen and 3D) was Avatar and that was 8 months ago, so you can imagine how many movies I watch. Each time I see a trailer on TV, I say, we must watch this movie but, I seldom have time for that.

  37. #37 by khansahab on August 11, 2010 - 9:23 PM

    Mani doubts Pak revival under Ijaz Butt

    Islamabad: Former ICC president Ehsan Mani says the Pakistan Cricket Board is not equipped to revive international cricket in Pakistan while Ijaz Butt is in charge.

    “There’s a possibility of an international XI touring Pakistan within one year, but it’s impossible for the present board working under Ijaz Butt to fully revive international cricket in Pakistan,” Mani was quoted as sayng is the Urdu language daily Jang on Wednesday.

  38. #38 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 11, 2010 - 11:46 PM


    Ijaz Butt is like a CURSE for Cricket in Pakistan and the bigger curse is Asif Zardari who is ruining the country. So, why do people expect that Zardari will axe Ijaz Butt? He will not. He is as headstrong as Ijaz is Butt strong. There is nothing anyone can do in bringing about changes in Pakistan. The people of Pakistan are to be blamed for this. Even God says when the people don’t change themselves WE impose such tyrants upon them.

    The people of Pakistan wanted to get rid of Musharraf and what they got is a 4 eyed DAJJAL in Asif Zardai, they were not happy with Nasim Ashraf, he resigned and what the people of Pakistan got is Ijaz Butt. Now, they want to get rid of both of them Zardari and Butt, but they will never leave, until and unless the people come out on the streets and demand their ouster.

    The protest must be peaceful and not destructive, because Pakistan cannot afford further losses they are already down and under the floods and their back is broken, there have been target shooting in Karachi, there have been terrorist attacks and suicide bombers and there is nothing much left, this is the month of Ramadhan and people should demonstrate or protest peacefully to achieve meaningful and long lasting results.

  39. #39 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 12, 2010 - 11:32 AM

    When you hear any unexpected and weird comments, they ought to be from Sarfaraz Nawaz’s big mouth. He is now claiming that: ” The wicket was not adequately rolled and right from the first day the ball started bouncing unevenly from the good-length area, which caused a lot of difficulty to the batsmen, especially to the left-handers. This is a sign of a substandard pitch. In my opinion, the PCB should have lodged a formal complaint with the ICC in this regard”.

    This is like crying over the split milk, because England batsmen and Pakistani tail (Haider, Ajmal and Gul) did not play on a different wicket and Pakistani bowlers were touted as “Best in the World” (by their captain Salman Butt, who for whatever reason ruled out the possibility of including Mohammad Yousuf in the second test) could not bowl out the English batsmen and WHY? Simply because they are not the best. And, it is not just the bowlers alone who win the matches, especially since 9 catches were dropped in the second test. The simplest of the simple catch was dropped by Umar Amin. But, he shall be retained in the team because of his connections and a single wicket he takes in a match for the rest of the time he is a big time liability.

    However, Sarfaraz Nawaz is not wrong in rejecting the batting coach idea by saying that you cannot make them better batsmen overnight. He must have shattered Inzamam’s dreams. A good batting coach is needed at the academy level where a 12 year old is taught to use the right technique whereas you cannot teach new tricks to an old dog. Players like Malik, Farhat, Butt and Akmal who cannot stand a single ball on a swinging and bouncy wicket can never change their batting style or improve their technique at this age. Unfortunately none of these so-called ex-greats show any desire or even a thought to work at the academy level in any department. Because, there is no money, no TV, no fame. Chakram is the biggest example he puts his mouth and his big nose where the money is, he knows there is a larger and bigger audience in India so he has made India his first choice home.

    Not only Malik but, Farhat’s central contract should also not be renewed and they should be dumped from the national side forever. Malik can become a “Ball Boy” for Sania Mirza and Farhat can live like a master of the house as his father in law will cook food for him and do his dirty laundry as well. So, both of them have good future ahead of them.

  40. #40 by M. Y. Kasim on August 12, 2010 - 4:49 PM

    There are an estimated 70 to 80 thousand Muslims in Greater Houston Area. 3/4th of them started their fasting yesterday while 1/4th of those so-called Barelvi (that includes me, though I dont fast because of my medical condition) are observing the Holy Month of Ramadan from today.

    Though we, the Muslims profess and proclaim to live and co-exist with Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Parsees and all other religious groups in the USA, Canada, Britain and most European Countries, we seems to find it impossible to live in peace and harmony among ourselves 😦

    Most of the ills could be attributed to that cruel and selfish Dictator, Zia-ul-Haq. He not only had a hand in creating, supporting and aiding the Talibans, but domestically helped creating several other groups and organisation such as Lashkar-e-Taiba for Islamic Millitancy, Lashkar-e-Janghvi for the sole purpose of killing and destroying the Qadiyanis, supported and encouraged the Sindhis to form the Jiye Sindh Movement and pitted against the Mohajir Qaumi Movement while at the same time instigated the MQM to agitate and confront all the non-Urdu speaking communities under the policy of “Divide and Rule.”

    I wonder if we, the Muslims will ever set aside our differences as to whether we are Shia, Sunni, Hanafi, Malki, Hambli, Shafie, Suharwardi, Nakshbandi,
    Qadariya, Chishtiya, Nizamiya, Barelve, Deobandi, Salafi, Wahabi and God Knows what and live in Peace and Harmony.

  41. #41 by M. Y. Kasim on August 12, 2010 - 5:06 PM

    There is a very funny and interesting article in Cricinfo today by some Imran Yousuf.

    I recommend you all must read it as it has some valid points.

  42. #42 by M. Y. Kasim on August 12, 2010 - 8:17 PM

    I forgot to mention Sipah-e-Sahaba(a militant Sunni group) and Tehrik-e-Nifaz-e-Jaffariya (a similar Shia group) who were pitted against each to kill, destroy and plunder, hence keeping the rule of “Divide and Rule” policy alive.:(

  43. #43 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 12, 2010 - 11:51 PM

    Mr. Kasim

    That is the problem with all these FITNAS they create Fitnay and Firqay only to have their say, Yae Qaom nahee sudher sakti. They need a Danda c’est ca.

  44. #44 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 13, 2010 - 11:40 AM


    * 45 overs per team with split innings of 20 and 25 overs
    * A maximum of 12 overs by any one bowler
    * 10 wickets per team and 12 players per team – teams can bat any 11 of the 12 and field any 11 of the 12
    * A maximum of two bouncers per over
    * A new ball from each end at the start of the innings and no replacement new balls
    * No Powerplays
    * Fielding restrictions: Overs 1-5 = 2 fielders outside the circle; 6-20 = 4 outside; 21-25 = 2 outside, 26-45 = 4 outside

  45. #45 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 13, 2010 - 1:52 PM

    There is a new thread, please write over there. Thanks.

  46. #46 by Iskandar Malay on September 8, 2010 - 11:39 AM

    M. Y. Kasim :
    Javed A. Khan and Munir Sahab,
    The reason the I believe Dhu l Qarnayn (Zulqarnain) and Alexander were two different personalities is based on the following conclusions.
    Although Alexander was a disciple of Aristotle, who along with Socreates, Plato and several other philosophers were “Seekers of Truth”, Alexander was Pagan and proclaimed himself to be the son of Jupitor Ammon, which dis-qualify him to be Honourably mentioned in the Holy Qur’aan. Furhermore, his quest and mission was War and Conquest in sharp contrast to that of Zulqarnain, who has been portrait as a Just, Benign and Benevolent King who helped people against oppression and helped them against their oppressors-the building of the “Iron Gate” or Barrier or Wall.
    Walla hu alam bis sawab… God Almighty knows best.
    The other thing I wish to mention is a little indroduction about Muhammad Asad. He was born a Jew in Austria and worked as a war correspondent for a leading newspaper “Zietung” something(I ca’n recall the full name) during the World War I and was posted in the Middle East. After war and defeat and collapse of the Ottoman Empire, he stayed there and converted to Islam and be-friended the Ruler of Najd, Ibn Saud and worked for him in an advisory capacity and saw Ibn Saud conquer Hejez and the warring tribes and rulers of the rest of the Arabian Peninsula and united the whole country into the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
    I have read his other book “Road to Mecca” which makes interesting reading.

    There are a good book about Zulqarnain, the tittle “ALEXANDER IS ZULQARNAIN” author Muhammad Alexander from Indonesia. This is the first book on the world that can open the mistery about zulqarnain in Quran, this book will be translate and published to english and arabic.
    so Alexander and Zulqarnain is the same person, not different person.
    Alexander is mukmin, not paganisme.

  47. #47 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 8, 2010 - 3:21 PM

    Mr. Iskandar Malay

    Thanks for enlightening us with your comments, you can write more on our blog on the latest thread, “guilty until proven innocent?”

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