THE CHIEF SELECTOR OF PAKISTAN CRICKET TEAM MOHSIN KHAN takes an easy route of escapism by shifting blames on the captain and the coach.  How often do we see that man staggers through life yapped at by his reason, pulled and shoved by his appetites, whispered to by fears, beckoned by hopes, small wonder that what he craves most is self forgetting.  What Mohsin Khan is forgetting is when he was not the CS, he used to openly and blatantly criticize the selectors, coach, managers and even players and that was so easy to do so while sitting in a comfortable room surrounded by cameras and you know you are on a TV talk show.

The irony is man seems to escape himself in myth and does so by means at his disposal. The lies and the inaccuracies in passing those judgments (while you are on a TV talk show) gives some kind of sweet comfort. Whereas, the truth is when you have to deal with those forces against whom you are passing that judgment especially when your own livelihood is at stake, then you try to sugarcoat and mince words, shift blames, make others responsible or at least try to drag them into the mess which you are responsible of creating it and then you try to escape from it.  It is like that when we travel we are in search of distance, but distance is not to be found, it melts away and escape has never led anywhere.

Not only Mohsin Khan, we have seen in the past and it is not just the selectors but others too behaving in similar way, they all act and behave like, His Master’s Voice puppy. The recent statement given by Mohsin Khan to the media that he is not alone in selecting this team but, Afridi and Waqar Younus were also in it and it was a joint decision.  We all know how the joint decisions are taken when there is nepotism and regionalism, there are letters of recommendation, telephone calls from ministers, senators and VIP’s pressurizing the selectors to choose a team from the list that has been provided to them. It is then these spineless selectors have to come up to the media and speak the truth by saying: “This is not the team that I want to select. Or, these are not the players who should be included in the squad, but we are being pressurized by so and so…”  This is the truth, the problem is they cannot handle the truth.

Afridi is known for taking emotional and erratic decisions whether he is a captain, player or has a say in selection and they all make fun of his decision making, so why give that much importance to his say now?  Waqar, they all say that he was a good bowler but, not a captain material or a strategist. He could be a good bowling coach but, he was not a batsman and he knows nothing about batting and to have his say in team selection especially in choosing batsmen is ridiculous and laughable at those who consider him as fine decision maker or selector.

On the contrary Mohsin Khan was a good batsman, he was in the team when Imran Khan was his captain, he must have learnt a lot from him, over the years he has matured not only as an individual who has experienced life but, as an ex-player who can observe the batting techniques of other players and their performance better than a lay person or a bowler.  Imran was not just a bowler he was an all-rounder and as a captain he is so far the best Pakistan has produced but, neither Waqar nor Wasim could match his abilities. I am saying this because there is a general misconception that a good bowler is also a good captain. Wrong.

It was very shocking to see how Mohsin Khan is now trying to cover his back by shifting blames on Afridi and Waqar knowing that they can’t do anything to him personally, whereas if he has spoken a word against Ijaz Butt or named the ministers, senators and those who pushed their son-in-laws or nephews or the henpecked husband, he would have been in trouble. Basically Mohsin Khan attempted to hide the dirt under the carpet but, he did not realize that someone could beat the carpet and create a cloud of dust and make him difficult to breathe.



Mohsin still did not mention anything about recalling Younus Khan and Fawad Alam while both of them are in the UK and are playing domestic cricket there. Both of them are in good form and shape and have scored decent runs in a few matches they have played. And, both of them are a 100 times better than Imran Farhat, Azhar Ali, Umar Amin, Shoaib Malik.  More than 90% of the population of cricket watchers in Pakistan agree with this but, no one is doing anything to bring back Younus Khan and Fawad Alam and this is called inherited congenital blindness where the iris is so rudimentary that it appears to be absent, they cannot see the most obvious things, this kinda blindness is found mainly in animals, mostly among cattle.  But, is there any doubt that Ijaz Butt & Co., may not have  inherited it from the cattle?

  1. #1 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 13, 2010 - 6:12 PM

    The two day match against Worcestershire is in progress and so far Mohammad Yousuf is playing well, he is 40 not out in a total of 112 for 2. Unlucky Azhar Ali got run out and Yasir Hameed couldn’t do much. Umar Amin the goody, goody boy is not out on 23. The stalwarts of Sialkot Mian Sania Mirza and Kamran Akmal along with his chota are yet to play. And, I am pretty sure that they will score well to cement their place in the third test, Kamran has no chance because of Haider but, Malik and Umar Akmal as well as Umar Amin will definitely play.

    Yasir Hameed must be given another chance because Imran Farhat is a repeated failure and if he can get so many chances why not Hameed? But, is it not time to think about Younus Khan and Fawad Alam? Or,

    Are they waiting for the result of the 3rd test too? Especially if Yousuf scores big and the rest soil their pampers and Pakistan loses again then peut-etre they will think of Younus Khan and Fawad Alam. Laikin Butt pay Zore nahee!

  2. #2 by khansahab on August 13, 2010 - 10:11 PM

    An article in today’s Dawn re Fawad Alam.

  3. #3 by khansahab on August 13, 2010 - 10:15 PM

    Kamran Abbasi’s article on discrimination against Karachi players is pasted below. Mr Abbasi I have always claimed, is one of the most unbiased commentators in cricket. He is actually a Punjabi himself but he is a believer in merit and not in ethnic supremacy, or bias.

    Pakistan cricket needs people like him.

    Selection case that damns Ijaz Butt: Kamran Abbasi

    The Karachi City Cricket Association has called for the removal of Ijaz Butt as chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board. Its central grievance is that Karachi-based players are being discriminated against in the selection process. The facts, they argue, speak for themselves. Tanvir Ahmed is the only Karachi-based player left in the squad.

    Critics have started calling the Pakistan team a Punjab XI. They identify the omissions of Younis Khan, Fawad Alam, and even Mohammad Sami as evidence to support their case. Danish Kaneria, another Karachi player, was suddenly chopped from the squad and replaced by a promising Punjabi teenager. With Umar Gul out with injury and Yasir Hameed unable to earn selection, the taunts of Punjab XI may well become reality at the Oval.

    If only Punjabis stride out to represent Pakistan in the next Test it will be a shameful moment in the history of Pakistan cricket. The Pakistan team has always been a microcosm of the greater struggle of the Pakistani nation, whose founder’s ambitions were to bring together the peoples of the four major provinces of Pakistan. Among the many disasters during the regime of Butt, this suggestion of ethnic prejudice is among the gravest.

    Karachi has produced some of the greatest cricketers in the history of Pakistan cricket. Hanif Mohammad, the holder of Pakistan’s highest Test score, and Javed Miandad, in my view the best of all Pakistani batsmen, both hail from the heaving, over-populated metropolis that is Pakistan’s largest city. Indeed, a neat but inaccurate generalisation suggests that Karachi has produced Pakistan’s batsmen while the northern parts have produced the bowlers.

    The power struggle between Lahore and Karachi, Punjab and Sind, has been an ever present backdrop to Pakistani life, waxing and waning with political regimes and the passage of time. Now the decision-making of Butt’s regime has brought the issue into sharp focus again. He denies any regionalism in the selection process, saying that the selectors have chosen the best players available but here is why he, personally, has a case to answer:

    1. The notion of an autonomous selection panel is a myth. Butt has taken too personal an involvement in selection matters, sometimes making decisions without the knowledge of the chairman of selectors. Some of Pakistan’s greatest cricketers have begun working with the cricket board and then resigned. Butt’s interference has been a deciding factor. Hence the responsibility for the current situation rests with him and his master, the patron of the cricket board.

    2. The gross imbalance in the origins of the squad members is a statistic that cannot be ignored. This is not an argument for a quota system, nor is one desirable. But it beggars belief that a province the size of Sind, and with its tradition of cricket, cannot produce more cricketers to represent Pakistan. There are two possible explanations. Either the selection process is biased or the development of cricketers in Sind is being mishandled. In either scenario, Butt and his cricket board are responsible.

    3. Some of the omitted Karachi cricketers have arguable cases. One player’s case is clear cut. Younis Khan, who the cricket board has admitted has no case to answer, remains unselected. He was available for selection at the start of the tour but wasn’t included. Now that the board has decided to recall Mohammad Yousuf – and let us put aside the issue of whether it was right or wrong to change the squad at this point – why is Younis, a Karachi-based player, not offered the same clemency? If anything, Younis had a stronger case for a return considering his recent appearances for Surrey.

    The failings of Butt and his PCB regime have become legend. By constantly interfering with selection policy he must take direct responsibility for the failures of selection on this tour, which have left the team pitifully short of viable options. Even the existing options, such as Yasir Hameed, have not been tried. Further, the regional bias in selection, whether through intent or mismanagement, is also his responsibility.

    In these circumstance, how can the Pakistani selectors continue in post? Mohsin Khan’s reputation is being damaged by the second. A hero of Pakistan cricket is being walked all over. He only need look at the examples of Abdul Qadir and Aamir Sohail to see what the correct course of action is. It takes integrity to step away from a senior position on a point of principle. But integrity is in short supply among those who run Pakistan cricket.

    These pages have been calling for Butt’s resignation or removal for over a year. This has been the most damaging regime in the history of Pakistan cricket. Butt has run it like a dictator, taking comfort in the strength of his political connections. Meanwhile, the organisation that he runs has disintegrated below him.

    The most important outcome of the work of the Pakistan Cricket Board is the performance of the cricketers who represent the aspirations of an embattled nation. The performances speak for themselves. The imbalance in selection means that a team unrepresentative of Pakistan is taking the field. Whatever that team is, however, it deserves our support. But the chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board, the man who engineered this disaster, does not.

    Of course, President Zardari has other matters on his mind, such as dodging shoes and convincing his people that he does care about flood victims. He might also consider the irony that his visit to England was less important to Pakistanis than the visit of his country’s cricketers. They are the most visible and engaging ambassadors of Pakistan on the international stage.

    Just as Pakistan deserves better from its leaders in so many other spheres, cricket is no exception. While President Zardari would never sack himself, he can easily sack Butt. Politicians, administrators, former players, journalists, and fans need to raise their voices in protest. Zaheer Abbas, a Punjabi living in Karachi, said Pakistan cricket is heading for disaster. I’ll go one step further – Butt has led Pakistan cricket to calamity and must be removed.

  4. #4 by khansahab on August 13, 2010 - 10:25 PM

    Legslip predicted under Ijaz Butt regionalism would thrive in cricket.

    People are taking notice now.

    We predicted which players in the team will ruin it and on what grounds.

    People are taking notice now.

    We predicted the disasters that will happen once Musharraf is removed.

    People are taking notice now.

    We predicted what kind of PCB Chairman would be appointed following Nasim Ashraf.

    The same kind of Chairman was appointed.

    We say regionalism and ethnic bias will take Pakistan towards utter disaster.

    People should start taking notice now.

    This is the voice of well intentioned, unbiased and intellectual people. This is not the voice of those who only care about regional pride and will destroy a nation on the basis of their bias.

  5. #5 by khansahab on August 14, 2010 - 7:14 AM

    The Jang has reported that Afridi wanted Fawad Alam in the team, but Mohsin Khan wanted to include Faisal Iqbal instead. Eventually neither of them got selected.

    Faisal Iqbal benefits from nepotism, but he is a better Test player than Malik, Misbah and Amin, Azhar etc

  6. #6 by khansahab on August 14, 2010 - 7:28 AM

    Desperate Rana seeks meeting with Butt to get ban revoked

    Desperate to get the ban on him revoked, Pakistan all-rounder Rana Naved has sought a meeting with Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Ijaz Butt.

    Rana said he had tried unsuccessfully to meet Butt in Lahore and gone to the Gaddafi stadium several times but nothing materialised.

    “I am getting desperate now because if the PCB Chairman goes abroad once again my appeal against the ban will be left pending for another month or so,” he said.

    Rana was banned in March for 12 months and fined Rs two million by the PCB on the recommendations of an inquiry committee that probed the national team’s shambolic show on the tour to Australia early this year.

  7. #7 by khansahab on August 14, 2010 - 7:31 AM

    Privileges Committee summons PCB chief

    KARACHI: The Senate Committee on Privileges has summoned the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Chairman Ijaz Butt on August 19 in Islamabad after he gave inappropriate statements in the media against senators.
    The committee chairman and Senator Tahir Mashadi said that there were allegations against the chairman for questioning the power of the privileges body.
    “There are allegations against him for challenging the power of the committee and to clear the matter, he’s being summoned,” said the senator. “He may be cleared after a warning if he apologises. However, if he doesn’t, we will demand that he’s removed from the chairmanship from President Asif Ali Zardari.”
    Butt alleged that some senators were trying to pressurise the PCB to clear the dues of the contractor, who constructed the new enclosure at the Gaddafi Stadium in Lahore.

  8. #8 by khansahab on August 14, 2010 - 8:52 AM

    Mohsin Khan speaks rubbish. When he was appointed as Chief Selector we knew he would be a yes man to Ijaz Butt and the Butt mafia.

    Everyone knows Afridi wanted to have Younis Khan, Yousuf and F Alam in the team. But, when the squad was chosen none of them were selected.

    I don’t know what Waqar’s strategy was- what players he was keen on but the only role Waqar could provide if possible would be a political role. The selection that has caused controversy has been of batsmen, not bowlers and it is unclear what role Waqar has played.

  9. #9 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 14, 2010 - 12:17 PM

    Kamran Akmal’s lady luck is always smiling at him or his Peer Sayeen’s Taweez Gunday must be helping him. Because, Zulqarnain Haider cemented his place with that knock of 88 under adverse conditions, after that everyone knew Kamran’s test future is almost over in test cricket. But, here he makes a comeback again. Haider fractured his finger and is out of the series and no wonder why Akmal is selected in the 2 days rain affected match. The rain is still affecting the match on the second day, so there is no more practice for Yousuf I guess?


    Waqar Younus was a good bowler, he was successful because of the speed and the accuracy of the deadly toe crushing yorkers he used to bowl, other than that he is a simpleton, he is at his best as “a commentator,” we badly miss his comments. May be he can motivate the young fast bowlers a wee bit but, he definitely has no clue about batting or selecting batsmen or formulating a game or workout a strategy. So, his role in team selection is nothing more than a rubber stamp. Afridi was not considered as an important person in team selection, when they selected the team for Asia Cup they did not even invite him in the selection committee meeting. As for the England tour, they simply decided who they are taking in the squad and told him to put up with whatever players they have choosen, so there is little one can do about it. Himself he was in no position to bargain or demand the inclusion of any particular player because of the fines imposed on him. So, he accepted everything they offered including the test captaincy which he knew from the beginning that he doesn’t want to play. Basically, he too is a simpleton, hardly ever pauses for a second to give a second thought to his knee jerk reactions.

    The main culprit of this whole debacle is Ijaz Butt and he should be kicked out.

  10. #10 by khansahab on August 14, 2010 - 12:46 PM

    What has happened to Pakistan!

    India has offered aid to Pakistan to meet the fund crisis and it is “being considered”.

    When India suffered damage from the tsunami years ago, they rejected Pakistan’s offer of aid.

  11. #11 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 14, 2010 - 12:50 PM


    The last time I heard about Rana Nayee, he was seeking a loan from one of the local banks to start a “Nayee Ki Dukaan.” They should lift his ban and allow him to practice haircut. His first customer would be Ramiz Raja who thinks he is Rambo. Even the Rambo has changed his hairstyle but Ramiz is stuck with that ugly wigly looks. Rana will have celebrities in his client list and players like Inzamam, Mushy Bushy, Saqlain, Saeed Anwar and Mohammad Yousuf would be going for beard trimmings and apart from the ex-cricketers there will be senators, MNA’s as well as religious leaders who would be waiting in a queue. So, Rana has good future prospects. Had Rana got his license to practice, he could have got M. S. Dhoni as his client but, now there is no chance. Reportedly when Dhoni went for his haircut, ten thousand fans went with him from his house to the barber shop and Indian TV channels were reporting the scene live.

    Recently Rana mentioned on “Kal TV” that Mian Sahab of Tind Shareef and Virender Sehwag took his advise on hair implant and Rana is their adviser for life. We don’t know whose life, but that is the norm of the industry i.e., when they offer you a life guarantee on a product, they expect you to die before the product gets faulty.

  12. #12 by khansahab on August 14, 2010 - 3:07 PM

    Someone called “Amran Yousaf ” has left a comment on Pakspan.

  13. #13 by khansahab on August 14, 2010 - 3:34 PM

    Akhtar working hard with an eye on World Cup

    Pakistan’s volatile fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar has his eyes firmly fixed on the 2011 World Cup in the sub-continent after making a successful comeback into international cricket with the Asia Cup.

    According to the sources close to the player, the injury-prone pacer is working hard on his fitness and is determined to bow out of international cricket with a good performance in the mega event.

    Though the 34-years-old pacer was left out of Pakistan’s Test squad for the ongoing England tour, he did play the two Twenty20s against Australia and is also set to take on England in the shortest format.

    As confirmed by Pakistan’s fitness trainer David Dwyer, Akhtar is very much in Pakistan’s scheme of things as far as the limited overs games are concerned.

    “Shoaib has lost a lot of weight and that’s encouraging. He’s definitely not in peak fitness and can’t be compared to the fast-bowlers like Mitchell Johnson and James Anderson as these guys are fit and able to cope with the demands of Test cricket. However, it will take time as it gets more difficult to maintain those fitness levels as life progresses,” The Daily Times quoted Dwyer, as saying.

    Dwyer also stressed that Shoaib needed to persist with his training programme to seek improvements.

    “The onus has got to come from Shoaib himself. With every performance, the mind may tick over and ask him if he wants to keep doing it. And for that, he needs to come up with the discipline that yes, he wants to strive for higher levels and keep playing international cricket.”

  14. #14 by M. Y. Kasim on August 14, 2010 - 4:08 PM

    I am approaching the next Test with this attitude;

    Hota Hai Subh-Roz Tamashaa Mere Aage…..

    Instead of shouting “Jeetey gaa Bhaiy Jeetey Gaa Pasisan Jeetey Gaa”

    Spectators should sing this song:

    Politics Hi Sahih, Public Ko Dikhane Ke Liye Jaaaaa

    Century Naa Shaih Fifty Hi Banane Key Wapas Aaaaa.

    Another song by the same Great Legend…This one for Ejaz Buttttttt

    Butt Jee Utho Ab Kooch karo,
    Iss Chair Main Ab Ziyada Zaleel Nahin Hona.

  15. #15 by khansahab on August 14, 2010 - 4:17 PM

    Recently Inzamam appeared on a TV show and was asked, how did he ensure that his team beat India in 2006?

    His answer was, “I told them to pray 5 times a day”.

  16. #16 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 14, 2010 - 7:32 PM


    Then Inzamam should form a team of Mullahs and lead them. The more they pray the more they will win, in fact they should go in etekaaf and not sleep all night then they will play all day and remain unbeaten. There is an expression “Ch2So4 murr gaye, aulaad chorr gaye!” Befits Inzamam.

    Kasim sahab

    Thats a good one especially century na sahee fifty he bana kay wapas aa.

  17. #17 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 15, 2010 - 12:42 AM

    KARACHI: The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is planning to issue a fresh show-cause notice to Younis Khan for alleged indiscipline but the senior batsman’s legal team has asserted that such a move would be a huge constitutional offence.

    Lawyer Ahmed Qayyum, who has represented Younis in his appeal against the indefinite ban imposed on him by the PCB in March, said if the board issued a fresh notice to his client, it would be a crime. “Issuing a fresh showcause notice to Younis would be a violation of article 13 of the constitution as no one can be punished for the same offence twice,” Qayyum said.

    He said his client has already been punished for indiscipline. “The board has already punished him for the so-called misconduct and indiscipline. So, constitutionally he can’t be punished again for the same offence. The board would commit a crime by giving him a fresh notice.”

    “It is strange that now even though his ban has been lifted the board is not willing to consider him for the national team despite the crisis in England,” Qayyum said.

    Younis has himself kept a very low profile and avoided talking to the media on his case since returning from England. Though the appellate tribunal lifted the ban on him in June, the PCB and its selectors did not consider Younis for the England tour despite strong criticism and demands from cricket circles that Younis deserved to be in the side.

    The PCB has threatened to issue a notice to Qayyum for making disparaging remarks against them and said Younis himself has not bothered to contact the board with regards to his case as yet.

    Tafazzul Rizvi, the legal adviser of the board rejected the claims made by Qayyum stating that there would be no violation of the constitution if Younis was issued a fresh notice. “Younis Khan’s case does not count as double jeopardy as he has not been penalised as yet since his ban was removed by the appellate tribunal,” Rizvi said.—Agencies

  18. #18 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 15, 2010 - 12:59 AM

    I have highlighted the last paragraph of the above news item on Younus Khan. Like Ijaz Butt, the whole of the PCB have gone bonkers this Tafazzul Rizvi guy is a shame to the entire Lawyers Community for blabbing such nonsense. First of all he needs to spell out the charges on which Younus Khan was banned. What is he talking about? We would like to know exactly WTF is that indiscipline? They failed to give any reason and used arbitrary use of authority which is nothing more than Butts Dictatorship.

    First of all that tribunal was illegal as it comprised of only one man and whatever he decided was not disclosed to anyone including Younus Khan or his lawyer. Whether he was penalized or not he is being punished for the same reason, in fact NO reason and the punishment is by not including him in the team. Keeping him away after lifting the ban and then talking about serving another show cause notice for no rhyme or reason is definitely double jeopardy.

    But, the point is: “Is Pakistan government following the US law?” Because, in the US the 5th amendment in the constitution, double jeopardy is prohibited. Therefore, whether the tribunal which itself is illegal cannot punish or penalize anyone for same the same act. In Younus’s case no reason was provided and he was banned. The blatant use of authority is so obvious when Akmal, Malik, and Yousuf were also banned their ban has been lifted without any penalty. Shahid Afridi’s case is definitely that of double jeopardy because he was banned by the ICC for the ball chewing incident and the PCB also banned him for two matches and penalized Rs 3 million. There is no rule in the country, there is only one rule and that is Zardari Rule and under him is Butt Rule.

  19. #19 by khansahab on August 15, 2010 - 9:07 AM

    J’wade Khan

    Do you remember a few months ago there was a protest in Karachi about Ijaz Butt? A few hundred people attended.

    I think Ijaz Butt’s recent actions are some kind of revenge against the Karachiwalays’ protests.

  20. #20 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 15, 2010 - 4:48 PM


    Both India and Sri Lanka are practicing well ahead of the 2011 WC by playing this tri-series and Sri Lanka seems to be more confident with a few wins in their bag. India lost to NZ very badly and SL defeated NZ confidently. With Yuvraj out of the team because of Dengue fever they must give chance to Rohit Sharma, his place was taken by Virot Kohli and I dunno why Dhoni does this? Earlier Dhoni has ruined Irfan Pathan’s career who is any time better than Ravindera Jadeja Dhoni’s blue eyed boy. Now, Kohli is preferred over Rohit for whatever reasons best known to Dhoni.

    Dhoni has started whining like Ponting and blaming lights, pitches, blah, blah. The fact is the whole team depends on Sehwag and if he starts with a blast India’s winning chances are doubled, he is out early the losing chances are doubled. Dhoni’s own form is as bad as Yuvraj and his captaincy is also questionable, he seems to be moving along with the Bollywood elite and his focus has shifted. He is no more the same Mahendera Singh Dhoni, there is not just a touch but, a lot of arrogance in him. What he fails to realize is it is because of cricket he became so famous and made so much money. Perhaps he made so much money that he doesn’t care much about anything else. Not everyone is like Tendulkar who after making millions is still focused on the game and remains more humble than most.

    Its been a long time that newguy and Varun have commented on the blog so here I have given them some food for thought and I hope they will come up with their views. I do understand that Pakistan cricket at the test level is pathetic and there is nothing to write home about so you guys have preferred to remain silent.

  21. #21 by 420 on August 15, 2010 - 5:47 PM

    at the moment, the preparations of India’s WC plans seem to be in disarray. nothing changed from the last WC in my opinion, but for we lost mr.dependable and got some techincallyIneptButCanSlog batsmen. bowling lost its edge. as you said, viru and gauti combo is making the difference. and trust me, i did not feel embarrassed for the NZ loss. may be its because i am not emotionally attached to this team, or i got used to it lol.

    when it comes to ODI, India is consistently incosistent for the last 2 years or more.

  22. #22 by khansahab on August 15, 2010 - 10:31 PM

    Afridi doesn’t rule out another IPL appearance

    Karachi: He felt humiliated when Pakistani cricketers were snubbed by the Indian Premier League (IPL) franchisees this year but all-rounder Shahid Afridi has not ruled out the possibility of playing in the lucrative Twenty20 league next year.

    Afridi had reacted angrily when no Pakistani player was bid for at the IPL players’ auction despite their names being included in the list. He described the cold shoulder given to Pakistani players as an insult and vowed never to play in the IPL again.

    But Afridi on Sunday said he does not rule out the possibility of playing in the IPL fourth season. “It all depends on what is the policy of our board and government but at the same time, it is also important that we are given proper respect by the IPL people and teams,” he said.

    “If they invite us with respect, I would consider playing in the IPL but for the moment, I have not given it a thought,” he added.

    His comments came after he was asked whether the signing of uncapped fast bowler Mohammad Irfan by the Kolkata Knight Riders for the fourth edition of the IPL was a good omen for other Pakistani players as well.

  23. #23 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 16, 2010 - 3:19 AM


    No. 1 – Paisa bolta hai, be it Afridi or anyone they all go for money.

    No. 2. This is definitely a deliberate ruse from the media that forced him to comment on a very sensitive issue. First they throwed a bait by starting a question about Mohammad Irfan’s inclusion in KKR but, the second part of the question was the real motive i.e., to see how Afridi reacts when asked about the possibility of playing for IPL in future? That Akhroat has no brains he simply blabs, if he was such a good thinker or a diplomat he would have been the best player in the world with so much talent he possess. But, thinking and Afridi are poles apart.


    Not only India, Pakistan too had a problem but it is exactly the opposite, their bowling is good but, batting is crap. At least India is making some efforts by playing in Sri Lanka to acclimatize in the local conditions, whereas Pakistan has done nothing, its just fluke that Asia Cup was held in Sri Lanka and that favours Sri Lanka to test the strengths of foreign teams in SL. As long as Ijaz Butt is chairman he will do nothing good in promoting cricket in Pakistan, in fact he is doing exactly the opposite – I dunno how he will go to Sri Lanka with that Big Butt Ugly Face he has especially since he has not yet apologized to the SL nation or the team for the terrorist attack in Lahore.

  24. #24 by khansahab on August 16, 2010 - 7:07 AM

    Reportedly Afridi has complained to Ijaz Butt about Mohsin Khan blaming Afridi in part for the selection of players for the England series.

    However we know of the rumours that Butt was himself involved in the selection process.

  25. #25 by khansahab on August 16, 2010 - 7:13 AM

    PCB rejects Latif’s proposal to host Afghanistan

    The Pakistan Cricket Board has turned down former captain Rashid Latif’s proposal to host a ODI series against Afghanistan in October in the trouble-torn country.

    Latif said that he had submitted a proposal to the Board that they should help encourage the Afghanistan cricket team by giving them a ODI series against the Pakistan team.

    “But the proposal has been turned down because the Board says the team is busy in the coming months,” Latif said.

    Latif is presently the batting coach of the Afghanistan team which surprised the cricket world, qualifying for the T20 World Cup in the West Indies this year and also attained the ODI team status by doing well in the ICC qualifying event during the last two years.

    Rashid accompanied the Afghanistan team to Scotland for a match of the Intercontinental Cup where they achieved a thumping 229-run victory yesterday.

    The Afghani players are quick learners and in view of their recent performance, I can confidently say that they will be able to give a hard time to any teams in the world,” Latif said.

    The former wicketkeeper-batsman, who played 37 Tests and 168 ODIs, said that he was pleased to see that the Afghanistan players were learning quickly and understanding the value of staying at the wicket.

    “Staying at the wicket is the key in any format of cricket and this is what the Afghani players are learning to do. They are learning the fundamentals of the game very fast and now my main aim is to acquire Test status for the Afghan team,” he said.

    Latif was appointed the batting coach of Afghanistan in July this year after another former Pakistan player Kabir Khan as head coach guided the Afghanis through to the final rounds of the T20 World Cup.

    Latif, who runs his own cricket academy here, said that he would work on a plan to get a few of the Afghani players to get long term training and coaching at his academy which would help them adjust more quickly to the highest level of cricket.

    In past also the PCB has played its role in supporting Afghanistan cricket by allowing their team to stay and train at the National Cricket Academy in Lahore and few years back had allowed their team to take part in the domestic grade two competition.

    Two or three members of the Afghanistan’s national team have also played domestic first class cricket in Pakistan for the Customs team.

  26. #26 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 16, 2010 - 10:35 AM

    With Upal Tharanga getting clean bowled on the first ball of Praveen Kumar, Sri Lanka were on the back foot and that resulted in losing three more top order wickets of Sangakara, Jayawardene and Samaraveera at a paltry 44/4. SL’s only hope is Dilshan if he stays along with Mathewes they will make the total a little bit more respectable. Jadeja or Dhoni’s “Jaddu” is playing.

  27. #27 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 16, 2010 - 10:36 AM


    Have you read this latest article by Osman Samiuddin on Lahore vs. Karachi?

  28. #28 by newguy on August 16, 2010 - 4:31 PM

    Javed Khan,

    I’ve been busy of late, that plus there isn’t much exciting cricket going on to comment on.

    This tri-series is inconsequential and it is only for making money for the boards involved. I don’t think there is so much value in practice before the WC so on, as far as Indians as concerned they should know SL like they know their home grounds now. Still they find ways to get out for 88 in some matches. So, there is not much value in this practice thing. WC is anyway a different ball game, it’s all about handling pressure and nothing can be said of any team at this point.

    As for Dhoni, his batting form hasn’t been really great, but at the same time it hasn’t been so bad either and his keeping is OK too, he doesn’t drop catches regularly. So he will keep his place and his captaincy has been OK, nothing spectacular but he is doing the job. His captaincy is not any worser or better than his peers like Sangakkara, Ponting, etc. Yuvraj on the other hand is a goner, I want him out of the team, unless he can come back with the match winning perforer that he used to be at one point. But his arrogance is too much.

    We all know about the famous Irfan Pathan debate and why Jadeja is in the team, but it doesn’t look like Irfan will ever get to come back, may be it is Dhoni or may be it is Irfan’s bowling which is more like off spin now.

    Dhoni is arrogant I guess, but that happens, I really don’t care so long as he is doing the job and not making it worse. Not everyone is a Tendulkar or a Dravid. These players are from a different age and they cannot be replicated.

    One thing about the Rohit Sharma, Kohli, et al is that they are not in the league of Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman. One reason I follow India’s test cricket is because of these players. Once they retire my interest will also go away. Sehwag is anyway in a different league of his own. Today’s match he proved this again.

    India without Tendulkar’s stability in ODIs is stumbling now everytime and heavily dependent on Sehwag to win matches.

    Today, Sehwag won the match single handedly with the bat after bowlers put in decent performance. Randy denied Sehwag a well deserved hundred by bowling a no ball when India needed 1 run to win and Sehwag needed 1 run to complete hundred. He hit the ball for six when on 99, but Randy deliberately bowled a big no ball. This shows how much Sri Lankans hate Sehwag. But Sehwag does not care for such things, here is what he said as quoted by CricInfo:

    “It often happens. When a batsman is on 99 and the scores are level, bowlers try to bowl no-balls and wides. It happens in cricket. Fair enough.”

  29. #29 by khansahab on August 16, 2010 - 5:23 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I have considered that article and see no merit in it. Samiuddin cannot make his mind up whether the voices emanating from Karachi are justified or not. He is just providing a case both for lack of representation from Karachi and sufficient representation from Karachi.

    I think Samiuddin is unbiased, but he does not throw punches like Abbasi, who I consider a more accomplished writer.

    You just have to look at the historical treatment of some very good players to find out whether this bias exists or not:


    That wicketkeeper who scored 200 against Australia but was replaced by Bari (Tauseef Ahmed?)

    Rashid Latif
    Shahid Afridi
    Asim Kamal
    Younis Khan
    Fawad Alam
    Sarfraz Ahmed

    I think Faisal Iqbal should have been given more chances in Tests than Malik and Misbah, when 2 years ago it had been proven that neither of these two are Test calibre batsmen.
    I would also have preferred Khurram Manzoor instead of Farhat.

    I know people will mention many players from Punjab and say that, their careers also ended prematurely etc. But the abovementioned players have/had serious talent and not only could they have played more matches, given the chance some of them had the brains and commitment to be good captains.

  30. #30 by khansahab on August 16, 2010 - 5:30 PM


    I call Sehwag, “The butcher of Lanka”.

  31. #31 by Varun Suri on August 16, 2010 - 7:07 PM

    Hello everyone,

    As others, I too have been a bit busy travelling due to work and after 4 Years I am now back in the UK near Leeds-BradISTAN for a Week.

    I have pretty much the same views as Newguy regarding Indian Cricket and like many others I am also sick of India-Srilanka matches, I hope we don’t get too play against each other for atleast a Year or Two after this Series.

    As far as Dhoni’s arrogance is concerned, I think MSD is also slightly different in this respect when compared to the other players like Yuvraj, Rohit Sharma and Jadeja. I say this because I know about his background and where and in what circumstances his father worked and how his family lived until he became the MS we know, so I am pretty confident that his simple roots will always keep his feet grounded this is another reason why he chose to marry a simple girl whom he knew since childhood instead of getting a Bollywood-Gudiya and I disagree that Irfan Pathan is not in the team simply because of him, After all MSD is not as powerful as maybe someone like Imran Khan to take all the Selection decisions himself. Although I am a big suppoerter of Irfan Pathan but I was disappointed to see him bowling in this year’s IPL and he has to increase his pace and get his
    “Banana Swing” back to be able to make a comeback to the Indian Team.

  32. #32 by khansahab on August 16, 2010 - 8:09 PM

    Miandad against specialist coaches with Pak team

    Karachi: Former captains have rubbished the idea of having specialist coaches with the Pakistan team which is presently struggling in the Test series in England.
    Former captain and director-general of cricket in the Pakistan Cricket Board, Javed Miandad said he did not believe in the concept of separate coaches.

    “I believe there should be just one head coach who should have a strong cricketing background and be able to guide the players in every department. Having different coaches for batting, bowling or fielding will only cause confusion in the team and undermine the authority of the head coach,” Miandad said on Monday.
    He also noted that having too many assistants would also affect the confidence of the head coach.
    “I don’t think the national team is the place for players to learn something or take coaching. I just feel that there should be one head coach who is a good administrator and motivator,” Miandad said.
    Miandad noted that in international cricket there was no room for learning basics.
    “Once you are selected for the national team you are expected to perform as a professional. A coach can only finetune a player,” he said.
    Some former players have urged the PCB to appoint a specialist batting and fielding coach with the national team after the players floundered in the departments on the ongoing England tour.
    Miandad said that the batsmen just needed to learn the art of staying at the crease and putting a high value on their wicket.
    “They are giving away their wicket too easily. I think Zulqarnain Haider and Saeed Ajmal showed in the second innings of the second Test how you should fight and play,” he said.
    Haider and Ajmal featured in a 100-run partnership for the eight wicket in the second Test to save Pakistan from an innings defeat.
    Another former captain Salim Malik, who is serving a life ban for his alleged involvement in match-fixing, agreed with Miandad, saying a coach’s job is only restricted to suggestions and guidance.
    “There is a limit to what a coach can do. Yes it is the job of the coach to guide the players but at the end of the day. the players have to go out there and perform,” he said.
    Malik noted that in the past great players like Imran Khan, Miandad or Inzamam-ul Haq did not get specialised coaching while playing for Pakistan but still performed.
    “In cricket it is the individual which matters. I think we are laying too much blame on the coaches. What can a coach do if a player does not follow his advice,” he said.

  33. #33 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 16, 2010 - 9:26 PM


    Like I’ve said above when Sehwag performs the team wins and thats exactly what happened today. He played another great innings and I feel sorry for him for not making 100, Randy is Randy what else can you say? Rohit and Kohli competed well by scoring ducks. In the end India won convincingly. SL can never win if their 4 batsmen are out cheaply, it is like Chris Gayle, Lara, Chanderpaul and Sarwan back the whole of West Indies used to crumble like a deck of cards. I agree that India without Tendulkar in ODI is vulnerable, there is no stability if Sehwag goes early.


    That wicketkeeper was Taslim Arif not Tauseef Ahmad, Tauseef was a off spinner, he was Miandad’s partner in that match in which Miandad scored six on the last ball. When the crowd in Sharjah romped into the ground after the six, the police charged the public with batons, Miandad was well known so, the police recognized him but Tauseef fell on the ground as he was pushed and when he was trying to get up, the policed kicked him and hit him with batons, poor Tauseef. There was a song after that match the lyrics were something like this:

    Ek Chakkay pay Miandad ko 80 lakh milay hain
    Becharay Tauseef ko kayee laath milay hain.

    Taslim Arif was reportedly Charsi and died at a young age. However, during Wasim Bari’s time no one else had a chance to get into the side as a wicketkeeper.

  34. #34 by newguy on August 16, 2010 - 10:10 PM

    Javed Khan / Khansahab,

    Tauseef Ahmad, the off spinner, contributed more famously to Pakistan’s first test series win in India, in 1986-87 series under Imran Khan. Three tests were drawn prior to the last test in Bangalore because neither team wanted to lose and pitches were made for batting, then in the final test an under prepared spin friendly wicket was given in Bangalore. Pakistan won the toss and batted first which meant India had to bat in the 4th innings on a spinning wicket.

    In the end it was Tauseef Ahmad and Iqbal Qasim who picked bulk of the wickets, and only one man, Gavaskar, stood between Pakistan and a series win in India. Gavaskar was out for 96 on the final day and Pakistan won by 16 runs, winning the series 1-0.

  35. #35 by khansahab on August 16, 2010 - 10:31 PM

    Praveen Kumar’s official age is 23 only, but he looks at least in his late 20s.

    I mean there is a limit to how much you can put a “spin” on your age.

    Does this look anything like 23?

  36. #36 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 16, 2010 - 11:41 PM


    I remember that test series and especially that last test at Bangalore, and also happen to hear Imran’s comments in person when he was in Dubai a few years after that win and he commented on that catch by Saleem Yousuf. He said, the credit goes to wicketkeeper Saleem Yousuf because, in those days there were no neutral umpires and umpiring was biased in most countries including India / Pak. So, the last pair that was batting was Maninder and Roger Binny and it was Tauseef’s bowling when Roger Binny nicked and it was a very thick edge, instead of appealing the wicketkeeper after taking the catch ran in celebration all the players went running after Saleem Yousuf and the batsmen did not had a chance to look at umpire’s finger which was not raised and the umpire also couldn’t do much.

    So according to Imran Khan had Saleem Yousuf not ran in celebration and simply appealed for a catch the chances were he may not have been given out. Because, earlier there were a few decisions that were clear but, the umpire thought otherwise.

    I dunno if you recall Bangalore test under Inzamam, in the second innings Sehwag nicked a ball into the second slip which was taken but the umpire said not out at which Inzamam clenched his fists and shrugged his shoulders in dismay for that he was penalized and banned for 2 test matches. The team then went to West Indies and Inzamam missed the first two tests and Younus Khan captained the two matches in which he had a fight with Shahid Afridi in the dressing room when Younus asked Afridi to open the innings and he refused and when he went at number 7 he hammered a 78 ball test hundred.

    Anyways, the point is Inzamam’s gesture was not that serious to get penalized for a match fee and two test match bans, as it was not directed towards anyone but he expressed mere frustration because Sehwag is such a good player if he gets a life, especially if it is an umpire’s decision in his favour he could go on and make a big hundred. In fact in the first innings of the same test he scored a double hundred but, in the second he was run out for under 40 runs. In that test Younus Khan also scored a double hundred and Inzamam scored a hundred in his 100th test match.

  37. #37 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 16, 2010 - 11:47 PM


    If Praveen Kumar was a Pakistani player they would have talked about is age. Like they always talk about Shahid Afridi’s age. I dunno these guys have never been to the frontier to see how robust and how big the Pathans are. One of my friends is 6 ft. 7 inches and his wife is 5-11. His son when he was 7 was taller than 11 years old kids in the school in Dubai. I met my friend after a long time at his office in Pakistan and asked about his family and kids especially about his son, how tall he is? My friend replied he is not that tall. I said, phir bhee how tall is he? He said, he is only 6-5″ 😀 Just because he is 2 inches shorter than his dad, he is not tall and the same about his daughter because she is only 5-10″

  38. #38 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 17, 2010 - 12:43 PM


    “The Randy” has apologized to Sehwag for bowling a deliberate wide. It appeared that Sri Lanka has done this before against Tendulkar in Cuttack, they bowled 4 deliberate wides on the leg side to ensure Tendulkar does not score a century, he remained not out on 96. If they have done this with India twice, they must have done it with other teams as well. Long ago one of the Chappel Brothers bowled an underarm delivery at the New Zealand player to avoid them from taking a winning run on the last ball. The following morning one of the newspapers headlines were, “Chappel your underarm stinks.”

    Courtney Walsh could have run out Abdul Qadir (when the law was not there) who was taking a head start for a single and Walsh was in a position to take the bails off, instead he warned Qadir and that is sporting spirit.

  39. #39 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 17, 2010 - 12:53 PM

    Four possible changes in tomorrow’s test. Malik is likely to be dropped? I dunno why they announce any news on Malik? Because, the moment they do he run to his Chachay and Mamay on his blackberry and they start pulling the strings of coach, captain and whoever else and Malik retains his place in the team.

    “LONDON: The third match of the four-Test series between England and Pakistan is beginning tomorrow at The Oval.

    England are leading the series 2-0.

    Four changes are expected to be made in the Pakistan team for the third Test: Former captain Mohammad Yousuf will replace middle-order batsman Umar Amin while injured wicketkeeper Zulqarnain Haider will be replaced by Kamran Akmal and unfit pacer Umar Gul will be replaced by Wahab Riaz or Tanveer Ahmed.

    Possibility of replacing Shoaib Malik by Yasir Hameed has also been expressed.

    On the other side, no change has been made in England team which won both the earlier Test matches in the series.”

  40. #40 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 17, 2010 - 12:56 PM


    Check out this link from today’s DAWN. Is the lobby behind Akmal to dispense Zulqarnain out? Kaneria dissed and sent back. Is Gul really having a back problem? Or, they want Wahab Who? in the team?

  41. #41 by newguy on August 17, 2010 - 3:43 PM

    Javed Khan,

    I think “The Randy” was forced by SLC to apologize, obviously they were worried about a fallout from this incident causing financial harm for them, i.e, by losing face with BCCI and thus losing out on future tours that generates a lot of money for them. As such SL team do not get hosted or toured by many other nations, so it’s all about money, they just know which side of the bread is buttered.

    Coming back to the incident, Randiv the bowler is a scapegoat in this whole saga, he is a young bowler and too new to do all this on his own, it has to be Sangakkara’s command, someone pointed out that the sump mike caught Sangakkara saying 99 and 100 in Sinhalese language, and it must be noted that 5 runs were needed to win with Sehwag on 99 and Sangakkara concened 4 leg byes. So it was Sangakkara who was really driving this, “The Randy” just got all the blame. He just took one for the team being the new guy.

    To me this is not at all about one individual player Sehwag getting a hundred or not, and I think for Sehwag it is same as well, who cares if he gets a 100 or 99, team won and they got bonus point, besides this whole series is point less and whatever records are made are inconsequential. The larger issue is spirit of the game. This is what is being complained about and this is the issue. Sri Lankans violated the spirit of the game especially when this tactic could not have caused their team to win by any chance. All they were achieving is not letting an opposition player score a hundred, so what?

    To flip this around, how would this look like if Indians denied Murali his 800th wicket by getting out deliberately to another bowler or trying to get run out, knowing that they may lose the game anyway. They had plenty of opportunities since Murali had to toil for 20 overs to get that last wicket. If they did that then they would have looked really bad and would have violated the spirit of the game.

    Now, if a team has an opportunity to win game by conceding leg byes or bowling no balls then this is a different question, in such circumstances you can justify this. This just look cheap, that is all.

    Anyhow, I think the whole thing is overblown, but Sangakkara and Sri Lanka needed to be exposed and so I think it is good Sehwag spoke about it. It is clear they have done this to other teams as well.

  42. #42 by 420 on August 17, 2010 - 4:43 PM

    till u pointed out, i was not aware of his “23”. will tell you the background of this in Indian cricket. till late 90s, the cricketers for the national side were selected either on their performance in ranji or recommendations 😀
    and after the under-21/19 WC started, players like yuvi,kaif started getting recognition. piyush chawla and many other players froze their age, so they can participate in more under-age tourneys, and harsha bhogle wrote an article about the same

    yes, i do agree if it was pak the sound was more. i guess it was more about hasan raza than afridi , that time

  43. #43 by khansahab on August 17, 2010 - 4:56 PM

    Enemies: a love story

    They were matched, yet mismatched; cozy allies, yet bitter rivals; bound by a common vision and purpose, yet also pushed apart by their backgrounds and polarised temperaments. At some point during their contemporaneous careers for Pakistan, Imran Khan and Javed Miandad grasped the prisoner’s dilemma that circumstances had thrust upon them. Somehow they saw through the fog of bitterness and understood that they were better off collaborating than fighting. In the process, enough magic was unleashed to launch a golden age.

    They say momentous eras are appreciated only in retrospect, but in this case, even at the time, most people were on to the fact. A landmark ODI victory in Sharjah, inaugural Test series wins in India and England, a contest for the ages on West Indian soil, and – the cherry on the cake – the World Cup in 1992. Pakistan had never come upon such riches before and haven’t since.

    Imran was born in 1952, Miandad in 1957. Their international debuts were four years apart, yet their rise to international fame was separated only by months. In 1976-77, Pakistan’s great watershed season, Miandad made 504 runs from three Tests against New Zealand at 126, and Imran took 12 wickets in Sydney in Pakistan’s first Test win in Australia. Team photographs from that period show these two standing at the edges with bemused, innocent expressions. They appear to have no awareness of the historic accomplishments that are to be their fate.

    From these spectacular starts, they prospered and went from strength to strength, evolving a relationship that, to paraphrase Imran’s biographer Christopher Sandford, was to be the making of modern Pakistani cricket. Despite this vital collaboration, it is no secret that these two did not quite see eye to eye. Even today it is difficult to extract praise from one for the other without a touch of grudge.

    Much has been made of the Lahore-Karachi rivalry as the basis for the tensions between Imran and Miandad, but it probably had more to do with the taboo subject of social class. Both were burdened by it in their own way – one by having less, the other by having more. Approaching each other warily, they communicated the natural reactions of their ilk, and the resentments built up. Class may be a sensitive and uncomfortable topic, but it is one to which cricket – a sport that once distinguished between gentlemen and players – is hardly alien.

    The slights Miandad perceived are specific, while Imran’s are vague. In 1982, Imran declared on a featherbed pitch when Miandad was 280 not out and looked good for 400; this still gets Miandad seething. Imran was also the lynchpin in the rebellion against Miandad’s initial spell of captaincy in 1981; this also continues to rankle. On the other hand, Imran’s gripes are more about Miandad’s scheming, penchant for confrontation, and capacity for political intrigue.

    There wasn’t a eureka moment, but sometime in the mid-1980s a penetrating hunger for team success forced them both to put their visceral feelings aside. Strip Imran of his cricket and he would still be accepted into Pakistan’s most rarefied postcolonial enclaves; strip Miandad of his cricket and questions would be asked. The mutual genius of the two was to invert the premise of this hypothetical: instead of eliminating cricket attributes from their assessment of each other, they eliminated class attributes. Miandad still remains Pakistan’s best batsman, and Imran Pakistan’s best cricketer. This was the stark realisation.

    Arguably, Miandad conceded more. Forced to make way for Imran, he was stripped of the captaincy and left friendless. He could have squandered his promise and burned out with anger and paranoia, yet he pulled himself together to faithfully serve as Imran’s primary tactical advisor and Pakistan’s batting mainstay. His family and friends helped, but the single biggest factor behind this turnaround was that Imran succeeded in earning his respect. The general view of Miandad conjuring up tactics and Imran barking the commands and motivating the troops is largely correct. There have been matches – the Bangalore Test from 1987 is perhaps the best example – when they were practically co-captains. By the late 1980s these two were essentially a team within the team.

    Anecdotes are aplenty on this subject. A perennial favourite dates to Pakistan’s round-robin match against South Africa in the World Cup of 1992. After a heartbreaking defeat in which Pakistan found themselves on the wrong side of the rain-interruption rule, Imran thundered into the pavilion and flung his bat across the dressing room. The rest of the team made itself scarce.

    Photojournalist Iqbal Munir decided this was the moment to take a picture and stepped forward, but Wasim Akram stopped him. “Where do you think you’re going?” said Akram. “The only person who can approach Imran right now is Javed.” Sure enough, within minutes Miandad was at Imran’s side, pacifying, counselling, cajoling.

    The one blemish in Pakistan’s otherwise idyllic era had been a heartbreaking loss in the 1987 World Cup semi-final in Lahore, where Imran and Miandad were separated during a crucial partnership. But it turned out to be a necessary setback that would prepare them for the ultimate finale. Five years later they found themselves in a World Cup final in Melbourne, and Miandad was walking out to join Imran at 24 for 2. Imran by this time was in the twilight of his career and Miandad nearly so. Pakistan being Pakistan, another wicket meant certain collapse. Miandad notes in his autobiography that they barely uttered a word to each other during what became a 139-run title-winning partnership. After all those years and all those ups and downs, there was no longer any need for it.

    Today, Imran may be a marginalised politician and Miandad a marginalised cricket administrator, but in statistical archives, in history books, and indeed in the hearts and minds of the cricket-following public, they sit at the two ends of Pakistan cricket’s table of grandmasters. Every now and then they can still be seen delivering some opinionated critique on television. It isn’t quite the same as watching them play, but it’s not a bad substitute. The style, vigour, wit and – most charmingly – deadpan disdain, are all there.

    Recently, during an ODI in Dubai, television cameras captured the two watching the action, seated next to each other on plush sofas, absorbed in conversation. Imran, sporting dark glasses, appeared regal, declarative and forthright; Miandad appeared dismissive, cutting and often incredulous. Perhaps in deference to the die-hard, they seemed to be enacting the same old roles that had made them legends.

  44. #44 by khansahab on August 17, 2010 - 5:04 PM

    Reportedly Mohsan Khan has said he will resign if Pakistan lose all 4 Tests.

    I think Khan should resign now, why wait for that occasion? Pakistan cannot win the series.

    Mohsin Khan should resign for selecting Farhat, Akmal and Malik.

  45. #45 by khansahab on August 17, 2010 - 5:54 PM

    Afridi to limit selection involvement

    KARACHI: Miffed at the recent statements on team selection by chief selector Mohsin Khan, Pakistan one-day and Twenty20 captain Shahid Afridi is considering limiting his role with team selection for future assignments.
    Mohsin, following a protest by the Karachi City Cricket Association (KCCA), claimed it was not only the selection committee that was responsible for team selection for the England tour but the captain, coach and the management as well. Mohsin also asserted that he wanted to include Karachi’s Asad Shafiq in the side but coach Waqar Younis and captain Shahid Afridi over-ruled his inclusion and opted for Umar Amin and Azhar Ali, a claim that left Afridi fuming.
    “Afridi was unhappy because he feels he had little say when the team was selected for the tour of England. He has asked the chairman to take action against the chief selector for violating the code of conduct,” a board official told The Express Tribune. “As a result, he’s considering playing a minimal role in team selection because of the latest statement by the chief selector.
    “Afridi has asked to give him a side only chosen by the selection committee and assured his hundred per cent efforts to take out the best from it.”
    PCB mulls action against chief selector
    The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) official added that the board is reviewing Mohsin’s remarks to take action against the chief selector. “We’ve also received complaints from Waqar besides the one from Afridi against Mohsin and the PCB might send a show-cause notice to him if he is found guilty of breaching the code of conduct.”

  46. #46 by khansahab on August 17, 2010 - 7:39 PM

    Reportedly Malik and Amin have been dropped for tomorrow and Yousaf and Yasar will play instead.

    Malik should have been sent back to Pakistan. Why is he still in the squad? They will play Malik again in the 4th Test if Azhar Ali fails in this Test.

  47. #47 by khansahab on August 17, 2010 - 8:04 PM

    To illustrate the damage that has been done to Pakistan cricket by selection of undeserving players I worked out batting averages of Farhat, Malik and Misbah on the following pitches:

    New Zealand
    South Africa

    And readers will not be surprised to know that the average runs made by these batsmen on these pitches is 22.

    You can imagine the extent of damage the selection of this players has done and what damage they are capable of. Yet somehow they are selected/have been selected instead of Afridi, F Alam, Asim Kamal etc

  48. #48 by khansahab on August 17, 2010 - 10:16 PM

    Some interesting stats re Salman Butt.

    ODI average is 37 which is decent, but if you exclude performance against India it is under 25 which is poor.

    Test average is 31 but if you exclude performance against Australia it is 20.

    This shows Butt is an overrated player, so far in his career he has only maintained his position in team on the basis of performance against one specific team in each format.

  49. #49 by khansahab on August 18, 2010 - 7:31 PM

    I know soon I will be back: Younis

    Karachi: ​ Former Pakistan captain Younis Khan, who has been denied a place in the national squad even after the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) ended his indefinite ban, is still hopeful of making a comeback in the team.

    Younis said he has come out of several difficult situations since making his international debut in 2000, and would also overcome the current wrangle.

  50. #50 by M. Y. Kasim on August 18, 2010 - 10:18 PM


    A few days ago, you commented that Dr. Kamran Abbasi is a better writer than Osman Samiuddin.

    I am agree.

    But in my opinion, Dr. Saad Shafqat is the best Pakistani writer around.

  51. #51 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 18, 2010 - 10:52 PM

    I don’t know why they keep selecting Imran Farhat? He faced 52 balls to score only 7 runs and then in the last over he scored a 4 of the first ball blocked the second and played a wild shot to get out. What was the need to play such a shot on the 3rd ball of the last over especially after hitting a straight four? He should be kicked out of the squad and sent home. He is such a waste, especially after staying at the crease for such a long time and ending up scoring only 11 in 55 balls? Any player who stays that long at the crease must score 70 – 80 runs after that or may be a hundred. Or, you play at a good strike rate of 80 plus instead of pathetic 20.

    Wahab Riaz took 5 wickets and now you will see how the P. group would be praising him for that and comparing him with Wasim Akram, Waqar Younus etc. And no one talks about his 90 odd runs in 9 overs he gave in on ODI. Already on cricinfo one of the writers has written, “Wahab silenced his critics with a 5 for on debut.” Perhaps they don’t remember how Yasir Hameed scored 2 centuries on debut and since then he is struggling for a place in the team. Today he played well, at one time he had scored 35 runs in 34 balls with 7 fours but because of Imran Farhat he had to slow down, luckily he didn’t threw away his wicket. Unnecessary praising has ruined so many of the new fast bowlers and a few examples are: Actor, Asaf, Tanvir, Ishant Sharma, Irfan Pathan etc. One performance doesn’t make a player so great. Any bowler who takes 300 plus wickets in 60 odd matches fall in that category. Before that they should not talk, they should let their bowling speak. Tanvir said on TV “I am worth one million dollar, at least.” Perhaps he doesn’t know the meaning of the word “worth.”

  52. #52 by Mohammed Munir on August 19, 2010 - 6:22 AM

    Ramadan is keeping me away from commenting on LS, but I am making is a point to ‘skim through’ most of what other guys are writing. 😉

    Below is a comment, taken form another cricket site, by one of the Indian cricket fan. The comment was mentioned in response to Wahab Riaz’s five-for perforamce on a debut.

    “Wow! wat an impressive array of bowlers – wud be happy if there is a bowler/batsman exchange mela between Pak and Ind

    I couldn’t agree more with our Indian friend because we seriously need batsmen not another bowler. 😦

    And here is another nice comment on the same Wahab article, this time from a Pakistani fan. This is what he has to rightly say …

    Surprisingly PCB has made some right decision in picking Waqar & Aqib for the job they do. I’m sure if they pair up Miandad & Inzi along with Saeed Anwar they would be able to find the right choice for better tempered batsmen. Also Rashid Lateef should have been put to work on new line of wicket keeper as Kamran Akmal simply doesn’t seems to be a long time prospect.

    Miandad, Inzi and Saeed Anwar … ahhh, those were the days.

    Finally this is what the opposition thinks about the Pakistani bowling debutant …

    “The main thing he had today was the element of surprise,” is how Matt Prior, England’s best batsman on the day, described Riaz. “We hadn’t seen a great deal of him, so that played into his hands. He bowled well but having seen his action and how he bowls and tries to get people out, that will stand us in good stead in the second innings.”

    Once again I fully agree with Prior because so many of Pakistanis come-up on the main stage with an element of surprise and they initially show very good potential. But within few months the oppositions read them and analyze them well enough to exploit their weaknesses. The case in point is Umar Akmal, who broke into World Cricket arena with a bang but is now a big burst.

    This also proves that most of the Pakistani players thrive only on raw natural talent and are difficult to educate, adapt and change with time. I hope this is not the case with this new debutant.

  53. #53 by Mohammed Munir on August 19, 2010 - 8:42 AM

    Salman Butt – A chicken of a leader and a coward.

    From what I understand, Salman (__|__) has always been an ‘opener’ whereas Yassir Hameed had played at ‘one-down’ position in several of his previous games. But since Butt Sahab is out of touch and not performing since the burden of Captainship fell on his shoulders, he has taken the liberty to change his place by coming down at number three (and with the night-watch-man in, Butt will play at no. 4 now) and send in Yassir as an opener to face the music. Poor old Yassir, how could he refuse? He would have been ‘thankful’ to Butt to at least allow him his first game of the tour.

    This is the type of leaders this team have. 😦

    PS: Same was done with Fawad Alam in Sri Lanka when he was sent in to open.

  54. #54 by Mohammed Munir on August 19, 2010 - 8:44 AM

    Pakistan’s Greatest Batsmen …

    So far on this Pakistan V England series and with third Test underway, the highest run-getter for Pakistan are as below :

    – Zulqarnain Haider 88 runs.

    – Umar Gul 87 runs.

    – Imran Farhat 74 runs.

    – Mohammed Amir 57 runs.

    – Saeed Ajmal 55 runs.

    PCB should warn Mohammed Asif to also improve his batting inline with other bowlers. 😉

    While PCB should also seriously think about playing games with 11 bowlers in a team. 😆

  55. #55 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 19, 2010 - 9:48 AM


    As regards Umar Akmal, I blame Ramiz Raja for showering all the praise and accolades over him from the time he started playing. He kept undermining Fawad Alam’s effort by saying, Alam’s technique is faulty whereas Umar Akmal has a sound technique and he has a lot of shots in his bag.

    If you look at the last 6-7 innings in which Umar Akmal got out LBW, it is the same, same repeated mistake which the bowlers have exploited it so well because, Umar has this tendency to keep his front foot firm on the ground instead of moving it away and then playing the shot. If you are deceived or beaten by the speed or the spin you are plumb LBW and that is what is happening to him. Either his hand eye coordination is not working as sharply as before or, the bowlers are succeeding in deceiving him. Either way it is the opposition bowlers who are winning against him.

    Ramiz Raja criticized Fawad Alam’s stance by saying his stance is very awkward. When a player reaches to the international level especially after playing for 8-9 years of domestic cricket and also by scoring heavily you cannot change his stance. It is like parents asking a teenager to stop eating food with his left hand. Anyways, thats another point but, talking of stance, who would have thought Chanderpaul, Sehwag or Amla with their weird stance would have scored so many runs at international level? Chanderpaul has a very, very unorthodox style. Sehwag stands on the crease by digging his feet six inches inside the pitch, his feet seldom moves but his hand eye coordination is so good that he can smash the ball “Kharray Kharray.” Iniitially Hashim Amla was also labeled as a test player and that was due to his stance and style, but he proved everyone wrong when he started scoring in the shorter version of the game.

  56. #56 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 19, 2010 - 10:01 AM

    Another one for Munir on “Butter Chicken.”

    I am glad that someone noticed, I was thinking of the same thing yesterday that Salman Butt is taking advantage of his captaincy and sacrificing poor Yasir Hameed and sending him to open the innings. It is not that Yasir Hameed has not opened the innings before, he did but Salman has thrown him in the deep sea because, it is not easy for a player to come back into the test side after a big gap and start scoring. Actually he did, he played aggressive cricket but, from one end Farhat was extremely pathetic and negative and that has effected his batting too.

    I am also glad to see that you are finally showing some sympathies for Fawad Alam on how he was treated in Sri Lanka. It would be nice if you continue to do that for how they are still treating Fawad Alam and playing some real pathetic players instead.

    As regards dropping Malik from the 3rd test, there is one more source who has confirmed what khansahab has written above i.e., dropping Malik is a deliberate ruse to save his career. They and even Malik knows that he cannot score against swing bowling and if he plays for 2 more tests and end up scoring the same number of runs which he did so far, his career would be over. But, they are saving him for the South Africa series. So, the Butt Think Tank has given a deep thought and came up with this bright idea to save his career. Malik has 9 lives and the second one (after Sania) has just begun.

  57. #57 by Mohammed Munir on August 19, 2010 - 10:02 AM

    Javed Khan …

    I agree with you on Ramiz Raja, and even yesterday when England tail was playing well after 7 down and Pakistan was not able to get a wicket for long time, Raja said, “If Shoaib Malik was in playing he would have provided the team with an extra bowling-option which could have helped”. I mean for god sake…

    While on topic of ‘stance’ who can forget the ultimate stance of our batting coach, Ijaz Ahmed. 😉

  58. #58 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 19, 2010 - 10:03 AM

    Yes, to add to that list of players with unusual batting stance, of course you are right who can forget Ijaz Ahmad and his Butty stance? 😀

  59. #59 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 19, 2010 - 10:06 AM

    Its good that I did not hear the commentary in fact I did not get a chance to see the match yesterday as I was busy. I simply cannot stand Ramiz Raja’s bias commentary. He has become a sore and a pain in the ear. I don’t know why this sudden change in attitude and he keeps spitting venom and simply praising every Gaggay, Pannay and Taaray from La’hore.

  60. #60 by khansahab on August 19, 2010 - 8:30 PM

    Azhar Ali is following the footsteps of Malik, Misbah, Butt and Farhat.

    As soon as the sword started dangling over his head he made a good score. Otherwise he would have been dropped after this Test.

    The Jang reported that Ijaz Butt might give the green signal to Younis Khan to play in the forthcoming ODI series. They should play the following team:

    F Alam
    U Akmal

  61. #61 by khansahab on August 19, 2010 - 8:35 PM

    Selection issue may snowball into crisis

    LONDON— Pakistan would have fielded a ‘Punjab eleven’ had they not included Yasir Hameed in their line-up for the third Test against England that got underway here at ‘The Oval’ on Wednesday.

    Yasir, who last played for Pakistan in the 2007 Bangalore Test against India, came in for the misfiring Umar Amin — the young batsman who flopped miserably in four Tests after making his debut at Lord’s earlier this summer. The Peshawar-born batsman made an instant impression when he took a brilliant catch at second slip to dismiss Jonathan Trott in the 15th over of the day off debutant Wahab Riaz.

    Barring Yasir, all of the players featuring in The Oval Test are from Pakistan’s most populated province — Punjab. Similar was the case in the previous Test in Birmingham where pacer Umar Gul, also from Peshawar, was the only team member who did not belong to Punjab.

    He was replaced by Wahab Riaz, also from Punjab. The tour selection committee’s decision to rely on players almost solely from one province has ignited fierce criticism back home, especially in Karachi — which like Lahore (Punjab’s capital) has always been regarded as the main cricket nursery of the country. Leading Karachi-based players like Younis Khan, Faisal Iqbal, Mohammad Sami were ignored along with prolific domestic performers from the city when Pakistan picked their team for the tour of England. Later midway during the tour, Danish Kaneria — Pakistan’s leading spinner who hails from Karachi — was kicked out in unceremonious fashion and was replaced by a spinner from Punjab.

    Karachi’s cricket fraternity has reacted strongly to the snub and is calling for the head if Ijaz Butt, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman, who hails from Lahore which has a huge number of its players in the current Pakistan team.

    Regionalism is not new to Pakistan cricket. The issue has always been a simmering problem but is now threatening to snowball into a major crisis due to questionable policies of the PCB and its selectors. In fact, questions are being asked about the integrity and credibility of chief selector Mohsin Khan and fellow members of the national selection committee.

    Sources told ‘The News’ on Wednesday that the selectors have become mere puppets and seldom raise their voice whenever the national team is selected. “The team, most of the times, is decided much before the selectors sit down to discuss it,” said a well-placed source. “On other occasions, their team is rejected by the higher-ups and changes are made without their consent. They just choose to stay quiet,” he added. —Agencies

  62. #62 by khansahab on August 19, 2010 - 8:37 PM

    Senators demand removal of PCB chief Butt

    A committee of Pakistani senators on Thursday said the country’s cricket chief was guilty of insulting parliament and its members, demanding his dismissal.

    The privilege committee from the upper house took up two motions against Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Ijaz Butt and found him guilty of breaching lawmakers’ privilege, or insulting them.

    The 72-year-old Butt has come under tremendous pressure from both houses of parliament since President Asif Ali Zardari appointed him in October 2008.

    “The committee found Butt guilty of breaching the privilege of the parliament and its members,” said Senator Tahir Mashidi.

    “The committee has recommended the PCB patron (Zardari) to remove Butt immediately,” said Mashidi.

  63. #63 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 19, 2010 - 8:37 PM

    Having Mohammad Yousuf in the side made such a big difference to the team, especially for Azhar Ali who got a lot of support and comfort from Yousuf’s company and batted with grit and determination, I feel sorry for him for not getting his test hundred……… what a way to end when you ran out of partners especially when you are on 92. Good luck to him for next time. Ijaz Butt and the selectors must now drown themselves in “Chulloo Bhur Paani” for not letting Yousuf play in the previous 4 test matches.

    If Younus Khan and Fawad Alam are also in the team, they can defend against any strong side in the world, they would certainly not get ALL OUT on 79 and 82. They will win some and they will lose some but not with such disgrace as they did in the recent past. It goes to prove that the youth needs seniors in the team to give them some support, comfort and direction. Talent alone cannot make them super heroes

    Those who said, Yousuf needed match practice are real ESSO’s he proved them wrong. A batsman of his caliber does not need any match practice, it doesn’t make any difference if he has not played international cricket for 6 months. Those who are playing regularly like, Salman Butt, Malik, Imran Farhat, Kamran Akmal etc. what have they done? Zilch, Zero, nothing.

    Every person reaches to his level of incompetence and Salman Butt has reached his level of incompetence since he has been made captain of the test team.

  64. #64 by M. Y. Kasim on August 19, 2010 - 8:47 PM

    Enough is enough. Drop that S.O.B. since he thinks he has .

    And please, please send his brother back to Pakistan.

    And somebody stop that M.F. commentator, Ramiz Raja who is praising Mohammed Amir so much that it got into his head that he is . He was a reasonably good late order batsman but is spoiled now.

    And a word about . If you recall, I wrote about him when the team was annonced that b had predicted that he is highly talented and would be a most dependable batsman in near future.

  65. #65 by M. Y. Kasim on August 19, 2010 - 8:58 PM

    First line…… he has “Licence to Kill

    Second line…… “Sir Cameron

    Some corrections

    First line——- “Licence to Kill”

    Second line—— “Sir Cameron Khatmal”

    6th. line——Azhar Ali

    7th. line——-Javed Miandad

  66. #66 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 19, 2010 - 9:00 PM

    Kasim Sahab

    Please elaborate your point, which SOB are you talking about? There are 3-4 in the team. 😀 Are you talking about Imran Farhat? Salman Butt, Chota Akmal and Khota Akmal? Which one?

    And, Ramiz Rambo SATHIYA GAYA he blabs like a toad from a dry well. He has ruined Asif, Tanvir and now doing the same for Aamir and Wahab Riaz. There is a big article in DAWN that Pakistan has found a new gem in Riaz Wahab…….. what a load of cow dung. Just one performance and he is a gem? Umar Gul also took 5 wickets in Lahore test against India and won the match for Pakistan, but he never got any praise from Raja, Akram or waqar. He got injured and came back strongly after that and for T20 he is the best bowler in the world, its not me who says this, it his record that speaks in volume. His best figures in T20 that speaks in volumes.

  67. #67 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 19, 2010 - 9:08 PM


    I just saw your comment of Aug. 16th in the spam folder and wondered why and how it landed there, normally we don’t check spam folders and delete all spam messages and just now I was reading Mr. Kasim’s comment and wondering which line is he referring to and in what context? And, I thought may be one of his messages may have inadvertently gone into the spam folder, as there are plenty of them each day and we delete them without reading and for 3 days no one deleted them and luckily I found your comment and approved it.

    I don’t see anything wrong with that message but, wordpress thought it otherwise. Anyways, don’t be under the impression that your messages are censored or deleted. The word press error is regretted, although they won’t but we do. So, please keep commenting as before. Thanks.

  68. #68 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 19, 2010 - 9:11 PM


    If you have good 7 batsmen in the team you don’t need another all-rounder I thing Gul would be a better option in ODI as opposed to Abdul Razzaq. This way 4 good bowlers with Afridi as the all-rounder and 5th bowler is enough. Three fast bowlers two spinners is good enough.

  69. #69 by M. Y. Kasim on August 19, 2010 - 11:26 PM

    Javed A. Khan,

    Sorry for the mess-up, I am still not able to master the art of various tools!!!

    To my mind there is only one SOB , the rest does not deserve a mention. And it is UMAR AKMAL. He undoubtedly is very talented but thinks he has “Licince to Kill” and plays as if Pakistan has to overtake England’s total of 233 within a certain period of time or overs 😀

    I had written a long blog a couple of months back and given the example of India’s Vinod Kambli who was a classmate of Sachin Tendulkar and both had the same coach while in school. He was considered as a more talented and accomplished batsman than Sachin. Ask any Indian and they will agree. But early success and too much praise went into his head and he started playing extravagance shots with abandon.

    Look now, nobody remember even his name, while Tendulkar has established himself as the true successor to Sir Donald Bradman.

    The same story and fate awaits Umar if he does not come down to earth and a very very bright and talented batsman will be lost to Pakistan and the World of cricket. 😦

  70. #70 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 19, 2010 - 11:47 PM

    Mr. Kasim

    The license to kill has been given to him by none other than Rambo Raja. He keeps praising him and Aamer and throughout the time he is commentating he blabs in their favour as if he has been paid to do that. Yes, I do remember you wrote about Vinod Kambli sometime back. I saw him batting in Sharjah against Shane Warne and he hit Warne three straight sixes and when he hit the third one, Shane Warne folded his arms to his chest and was biting his finger nails and smiling in total dismay. Each six was bigger than the previous one. I think he smashed something like 23 runs in that over.

  71. #71 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 20, 2010 - 1:44 PM

    The match is slipping away from Pakistan’s hands unless there is a miracle collapse which is not likely bakaoz Alistar has cooked a hundred and when he does that he goes for a big one. Pakistan seems to be running out of bowling options i.e., when you see a guy like Imran Farhat bowling as 5th bowler it means there is nothing left in the armoury. The so-called NEW GEM bowled wayward today and after 4 overs he was removed bakaoz he was proving to be very expensive i.e., @ an economy rate of 7.75 runs per over. I don’t know what Ramiz Raja must be blabbing today? Perhaps he is lamenting about not including Shoaib Malik who could have bowled as the 5th bowler, am I right?

    It is a batting pitch and getting wickets in the remainder of the match is very difficult. However, Pakistan would be throwing away their wickets in the second innings like they always do, with Farhat playing 50 odd balls to score 8-9 runs in fact he doesn’t play, he keeps leaving them, when he plays he gets out. So, why don’t they kick him out and get Fawad Alam as the opener? And, Butter Chicken lost his zing since he has taken the lead role. Expecting an encore performance from Azhar Ali and Mohammed Yousuf in the second innings is asking too much. The rest are good in walking up to the crease and back to the pavilion in 30 seconds.

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  73. #73 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 20, 2010 - 3:51 PM

    Once again it is Matt who is stuck to the floor Prior to the total English collapse and with him is Swann and Broad is yet to come. If England takes a lead of 200 plus, Pakistan will find it hard to score in the 4th innings, still 20 overs to be bowled today and 2 more days of game remaining, result is bound to come.

  74. #74 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 20, 2010 - 3:55 PM

    Great ! Prior is OUT there is a chance to win from here now. Can they avail it?

  75. #75 by khansahab on August 21, 2010 - 9:56 AM

    Pervez Musharraf has given Rs 1 Crore for the charity victims of Pakistan, Altaf Hussein has given Rs 10 Lakhs. This was revealed in a programme on ARY recently.

    What have Zardari, N’waz Sharif and others given?

    Pakistan has accepted India’s offer of aid. If India had suffered a crisis would they have accepted aid from Pakistan?

    Meanwhile there is controversy again on the issue of where the money that is paid to Pakistani governmental agencies for flood relief is going. Not just that, these Islamic organisations that ask for money whenever there is crisis in Muslim countries, it has been alleged there is a lot of embezzlement and corruption within these organisations.

    On ARY some Baluchi leader was present and he said that, from Punjab the focus has been how to ensure Punjab province and in particular, Lahore does not get affected by this flood. But, Baluchistan was completely ignored by the decision makers.

  76. #76 by khansahab on August 21, 2010 - 10:05 AM

    Imran Khan’s biggest problem is that he sees no difference between Musharraf and Zardari/Nawaz.

    He does not realise that what happened with CJ Choudhary was a politically motivated game to ouster Musharraf.

    What exactly has Choudhary done? The judiciary is still corrupt.

    In Musharraf’s time the media thrived, politicians became more accountable, Pakistan attracted a lot of foreign investment.

    In his time the middle class (which is the class that is Pakistan’s only hope for survival) was at its happiest.
    The NS Interview: Imran Khan

    Do you hope to be president or prime minister of Pakistan one day?
    Not president, prime minister. I don’t hope – I’m convinced that in the next election my party, Tehreek-e-Insaf [Movement for Justice], will win. In every university, it is by far the most popular party in Pakistan; it’s the party of the young.

    What is the political atmosphere like?
    What you have today is a media that you can no longer control, a supreme court that is independent, though it is under attack, and a young generation who all want a change.

    Is there a sense of rebellion in the country?
    There is a general movement for change, reflected in the public support for the chief justice [ousted by General Pervez Musharraf in 2007]. Ordinary citizens realise that they want to get rid of a corrupt system.

    Who is responsible for Pakistan’s corruption?
    The collective political mafia. They’re in politics for one reason – it’s the biggest business. Look at Nawaz Sharif [the ex-prime minister] and Asif Zardari [the current president] and the sort of properties and businesses they’ve got.

    What did you think of General Musharraf?
    By taking us into the war on terror, he probably did more damage than anyone else to the people of Pakistan.

    What’s your solution to the war in Afghanistan?
    There has to be an exit strategy; Nato has to leave Afghanistan. Otherwise more and more people will be dying, most of them innocent.

    Are they not dying at the hands of the Taliban?
    Whether they’re dying at the hands of the Taliban or the government does not matter, as the war is not being won. All the Taliban have to do to win is not lose – and they’re not losing, because more and more areas are coming under Taliban control.

    Has Barack Obama had a positive impact?
    President Obama had a golden opportunity. I wrote an open letter to him when he became president, saying that he should not own George Bush’s war in Afghanistan, that it was a tried and failed strategy. He has done exactly what he should not have done. David Cameron should not have owned Tony Blair’s war and Obama should not have owned Bush’s war.

    You were educated in Britain. What are your fondest memories of that time?
    The summer, because the summer in Pakistan used to be boiling hot. And the cricket. I also loved London – it was such a melting pot.

    How were you influenced by your relationship with your mother?
    I was very close to her, and then seeing her suffer [she died of cancer in 1985] had a big impact on me. Until then I had no real pain in my life. Also, a lot of my value system came from her because she was very political: she had lived under colonial rule and was always anti-imperialist.

    You’re now a parent. Do you want your sons to follow in your footsteps?
    I would want my sons always to be political, because human beings are political. It means caring about your environment and the people you live with. I want them to raise their voice against injustice in society.

    What about cricket?
    I would want them to play sport, but not necessarily at the level I played. Sport teaches you to struggle, it strengthens you. It’s a great character-building experience.

    Who’s your favourite cricketer?
    I don’t really follow cricket that much these days. But Sachin Tendulkar is still the best batsman. And the two young Pakistani players Mohammad Asif and Umar Akmal are oozing with talent.

    What does your faith mean to you?
    A complete faith in God changes you as a human being. You become human, in the sense that you become selfless, you’re more compassionate and you become more just – you feel you’re accountable to a higher force.

    Did your political ambitions cost you your marriage to Jemima Khan?
    I don’t look upon life like that. Life is a journey, and marriage works if two people are on the same journey. Sadly, my ex-wife could not live in Pakistan after a while – she found it very difficult. I have the greatest admiration for how much she tried, but you come to a point where [you realise] it was not meant to be.

    Do you keep in touch with Jemima’s brother Zac, now a Tory MP?
    I campaigned for Zac. He’s like a younger brother. He has a great sense of justice; he is the sort of person who should be in politics.

    What would you like to forget?
    It’s all part of life – I have no regrets.

    Are we all doomed?
    No, I’m a great optimist.

  77. #77 by khansahab on August 21, 2010 - 10:40 AM

    Why is Farhat so aggressive that he is reckless?

    Bakaouz he knows that he has connections and will come back into the team shortly even if he is dropped.

  78. #78 by khansahab on August 21, 2010 - 1:00 PM

    25 runs needed and Pakistan are making 1-2 runs per over.

    It is better to be cautious but this is just ridiculous.

    Someone should hit a boundary and get it over with.

  79. #79 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 21, 2010 - 1:28 PM


    I think Imran Khan meant Mohammed Aamer instead he said Mohammed Asif because he mentioned 2 young Pakistani players …………. are oozing with talent.

    Well Asif cannot be that because he has been around for many years and Imran Khan, as he is getting old find difficulty in remembering names.

    If he is optimistic why did he:

    1. Not accept the vice premiership when Musharraf offered him, that would have been a stepping stone for him towards Premiership or Presidency.
    2. He should have persisted more in keeping his marriage intact, marriage is not always a pleasure it is a matter of compromise, especially in Pakistan for famous personalities it is a very important thing to keep it rather than break it.
    3. Why is there NO one else in his Justice Party who is popular? Not a single name that you hear who is known to you from his party and that is because he prefers dictatorship.

    Zardari is an asshole but the PPP has many leaders who are known to the public, it is another matter that they are not throwing him out of power i.e., all part and parcel of politics.

  80. #80 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 21, 2010 - 1:28 PM


    I think Imran Khan meant Mohammed Aamer instead he said Mohammed Asif because he mentioned 2 young Pakistani players …………. are oozing with talent.

    Well Asif cannot be that because he has been around for many years and Imran Khan, as he is getting old find difficulty in remembering names.

    If he is optimistic why did he:

    1. Not accept the vice premiership when Musharraf offered him, that would have been a stepping stone for him towards Premiership or Presidency.
    2. He should have persisted more in keeping his marriage intact, marriage is not always a pleasure it is a matter of compromise, especially in Pakistan for famous personalities it is a very important thing to keep it rather than break it.
    3. Why is there NO one else in his Justice Party who is popular? Not a single name that you hear who is known to you from his party and that is because he prefers dictatorship.

    Zardari is an asshole but the PPP has many leaders who are known to the public, it is another matter that they are not throwing him out of power i.e., all part and parcel of politics.

  81. #81 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 21, 2010 - 1:36 PM

    Pakistan are struggling to make 16 runs here, they have lost quick 3 wickets only Chota Khatmal is the hope along with Mohammad Aamer, Bara has gone on a duck. Can’t they hit 4 fours out there? Salman Butt will save his ass by saying he is the top scorer (48) in the second innings. Yousuf made 33. There is a need for having a sound middle order and without Younus Khan, the team would be struggling. And Farhat should be sent home and replaced by Fawad Alam.

    I wrote above yesterday that if England takes a lead of over 200, Pakistan team cannot win this match and even for a 148 they are struggling in the last 4 overs they have scored only ONE RUN and if they continue to play like this, Swann will bowl more aggressively and the tail-enders will succumb in his lap like a helpless lamb.

  82. #82 by khansahab on August 21, 2010 - 1:52 PM

    Umar Akmal is leaving it to Aamer to finish the game.

    Akmal has been irresponsible. He does not look like a Test player sometimes.

    How different he appears now to how he was in his first few matches?

  83. #83 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 21, 2010 - 2:02 PM

    FINALLY they made it but what seems to be an easily achievable total suddenly started looking like Mount Everest to them. In 33 balls they scored 1 run after Kamran’s departure but a couple of fours and a couple of runs in the end made it easy. If they had bogged down like they did after Kamran’s departure they too have joined him in the pavilion. The best way is to keep making singles instead of simply defending the ball and no score. At least the score board is ticking and that puts the opposition under pressure, eventually they did.

    BIG BUTT should now call Younus Khan and Fawad Alam asap.

  84. #84 by JOKER on August 21, 2010 - 2:13 PM

    congratulations to all Pakistanis for winning the third test with so much difficulty, they can win easily the 4th if younus khan is also included in the team along wtih fawad alam.

    khansahab thankyou very much for your help, i will write more laterz

  85. #85 by newguy on August 21, 2010 - 2:16 PM

    Congratulations to Pakistan on this win.

    Bowlers set it up superbly, and the batting as usual gave nervous moments. Mohd Yousuf brought in solidity to middle, without his 56 in first innings Pakistan would have never got the import 75 run lead and got the opportunity to chase a small total. Yousuf again in 2nd innings proved his worth. Still I thought when Yousuf got out and Akmal got out that that may give up the match. Somehow they made it. This is not good enough, more solidity is needed in the batting. Younus Khan is needed, and as you all say Fawad Alam seems to be good too.

    But, what a bowling performance! Surely, one of the top two bowling units in the world at the moment.

  86. #86 by khansahab on August 21, 2010 - 2:16 PM


    Welcome to LS, no problem. If you need more help please let me know.

    I agree about Younis Khan and Fawad Alam, do you agree they are being kept out due to politics?

  87. #87 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 21, 2010 - 2:31 PM


    Thanks for the good wishes but, the batting side is so weak that they could hardly make 200 runs, they need Younus and Fawad Alam for sure.

    Khansahab & Joker

    There is NO doubt that both of those players are out because of politics, Ijaz butt has recently said he may bring in Younus Khan for the 4th test but no mention of Fawad Alam.

    Joker you are welcome to show your antics here and you are very welcome.

  88. #88 by M. Y. Kasim on August 21, 2010 - 3:17 PM

    Congratulations to Freind & Foes.

    A win is win, however painfully achieved. After all, Pakistan is Pakistan 🙂

    Form is temporary, it comes and goes and comes back again while CLASS has no substitude.

    Once again we unhurted a gem, a calm, solid and highly talented youngster who became the latest victim of Moulvi Saheb. Would somebody reaserch the total of Moulvi Saheb’s vitims?

    And finally a word about English Captain and team. How shrewdly he and
    his teanmates defended a meagre total and made it look like 448 😀

    Fast bowlers should bowl well outside the off stump and Spinner to keep it tight.
    Ftustrate the batsmen and they will commit suicid by playing desperate shots:

    Wonderful leadrship 🙂

    Please excuse my spelling as I woke up at Sehri time though I dont fast (may Allah forgive all my sins, Aameen) I will now try to catch some sleep and hope Kamran Akmal does not drop me 😀

  89. #89 by 420 on August 21, 2010 - 4:02 PM

    Congrats to all Pak fans. My pak friend did not want to watch the game live, now he can watch the hilites 😀

    as u said, bringing in younis and fawad, and the team transforms to a top class so fast. yousuf proved what a solid middle order batsman can do to this team. may be you people can loan us 2 fast bowlers, you always have the replacements 😀

  90. #90 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 21, 2010 - 6:17 PM

    Kasim Sahab

    Moulana and Pir Zamam both had problems running between the wickets or during fielding and both have involved in many run outs, its a matter of how alert you are and decide on your own. Salman Butt is not alert but he is extra, extra cautious and never converts nothing into easy singles, ones into twos or twos into threes and it is for this reason the scoring rate is always slow when he plays. And, when his partner is Farhat, anything off-side, he keeps leaving dozens of balls offering no stroke, then suddenly he tries to hit, his success of hitting a four is 5% and getting out is 95%. He too seldom goes for singles. Obviously such situations affects the other batsmen too.

    Miandad was great because he used to pickup singles and twos at ease and used to make the other batsman run. Whenever he got an opportunity he used to score a boundary. I remember him talking on TV once he said, when the field is well spread out, you play the ball with soft hands, a gentle push and go for 2 runs because, the fielder has to come up to collect the ball and threw at the keeper whereas, if you hit the ball hard, you can only take a single as the ball travels fast and you have no chance for a second run.

    This is such a simple advice from Miandad and, its not coming from Einstein as E=MC2 or any formula which is beyond comprehension of our paindoo players, they simply need to remember this and run fast.


    I am astounded by your comment on leadership as “wonderful” unless I missed your sarcasm. 🙂

  91. #91 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 21, 2010 - 6:41 PM


    You already got one in WASIM AKRAM he lives, eat, breathe, praise, worship your country and your gods (Money & filmi exastrass) and he gives tips to your left arm fast bowlers to stamp his authority.

    You can take Shoaib Actor as well, he is also very keen to go there, he has no chance in Pak now but he hopes to play in 2011 WC pls. give him a chance to play.

    When Asaf will retire we will send him there for sure because he too like to be in the nightclubs and enjoy nightlife there.

    Sohail Tanvir says: “I am worth at least a million daalar.” So, give him that daalar, I am sure he doesn’t know the meaning or spelling of “worth”

    We have already given you one great all-rounder and he can be a “GHAR JAMAYEE” and a good henpecked husband. He is willing to change his name from Shoaib Malik to Shoaib Mirza. So, what else do you want? 😀 Do you want Inzamam to do some Tableegh work? 😉

  92. #92 by khansahab on August 21, 2010 - 10:11 PM

    Butt, Afridi to decide Younis Khan’s future

    Karachi: Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Ejaz Butt has summoned one-day captain Shahid Afridi for a meeting on August 23 to decide on the future of former skipper Younis Khan.
    Well-informed sources in the Pakistan Cricket board told PTI that Afridi had been called for for a one-on-one meeting with Butt to discuss the forthcoming ODI series in England.

  93. #93 by khansahab on August 21, 2010 - 10:13 PM

    Zimbabwe keen to tour Pak: PCB

    Karachi: There was finally some good news for the international cricket-starved Pakistani public after Zimbabwe showed their willingness to tour the strife-torn country for a full series.

    The Pakistan Cricket Board Saturday confirmed that the Zimbabwe Cricket Union (ZCU) had expressed its desire to send their national team to Pakistan for a full series. It was learnt that collection of funds for the flood victims would also be a part of the mission.

    “Yes, the ZCU has contacted us and we are now looking at a possible time slot to host them for a series at home, but the modalities need to be worked out,” a PCB official said.

    He said that the ZCU had left it to PCB to decide the dates for the series. To say that ZCU’s offer comes as a big boost for the PCB would be an understatement. Foreign teams have refused to tour Pakistan since the Lahore terror attack on the Sri Lanka team in March last year.

    Since then the country has been forced to play its home series on foreign soil. If that was not enough, the International Cricket Council distributed Pakistan’s share of 2011 World Cup matches among the other three host countries — India, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

    PCB chairman Ijaz Butt welcomed the ZCU gesture and said the board would now be looking at finalising the dates for the series.

  94. #94 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 21, 2010 - 10:28 PM


    This is all BUTT DRAMAY BAAZI, i.e., calling Shahid Afridi for a one-on-one meeting as if Butt is going to listen to Shahid Afridi? He gives a tosh to anyone because he is an insane person and whatever he does is according to his own Butt Fat Will. Obviously Afridi would like to have Younus Khan and Mohammed Yousuf in his team for ODI, but definitely not in T20.

    Butt days are numbered, even Zardari days are numbered especially the way he has handled this FLOOD CRISIS, the whole world is spitting on him. In fact he is not even worth spitting because he is so ugly and so filthy. If the people of Pakistan still cannot remove that Chor, Uchaka, Daku then its a shame on them, perhaps they deserve a Demon like him to rule over them.

  95. #95 by JOKER on August 21, 2010 - 10:42 PM

    Pakistani cricketers are very talented but some of them are brainless they can beat any team in the world but they are not consistent the problem is in harnessing them there is no good captain since Imran Khan and there is no good adminstration they lack direction, control and more than anything else there is not enough guidance. Javed Khan you don’t spare a moment in bashing Wasim Akram but the only reason he goes there is not only money it is also because he gets a lot of attention in India. If there was a good system in Pakistan then they could have provided the right opportunities to the deserving players. Like you guys say there is regionalism and bias in selection it is everywhere except for Australia I guess. However, I did notice that Ramiz Raja when he is commentating he is sponsoring some players and criticizing the others which appeared more like a bias to me as well. One of the recent incidents in the previous test was when Aamir was playing in the second innings Raja was full of praise for Aamir not only for his bowling but for batting whereas in the first innings it was Gul who scored 60 odd runs and remained not out. Upon hearing that his fellow commentator reminded Raja that it was Umar Gul who actually saved Pakistan from a total collapse by making 60, Raja kept quiet he did not acknowledge, the commentator again poked Raja and Raja still kept quiet. So, there is something there which most people cannot see or understand but you guys know your ex-players and current players so you see it differently. By saying this I am contradicting what I wrote above on Javed Khan’s comment about Wasim Akram, may be you guys definitely know more than I and your grievances are genuine. Especially if you view this situation from the other end. There is not a single Indian player who offer his services to Pakistan and not only the players not a single person from any field whatsoever ever wants to help Pakistan.

  96. #96 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 21, 2010 - 11:11 PM

    Salman speaks through his Butt now.

    A few weeks ago when the talk about including Mohammed Yousuf in the team was raised, Salman Butt opposed the idea by saying “he doesn’t want to look back, it is time to look into the future.” Look at his Butt in the mirror is his future?

    Now, he is taking a U-turn by saying: “the mix of youth and experience will help Pakistan become one of the world’s leading sides. “Mohammad Yousuf really helped and the youngsters have fed off his experience,” said Butt.

    If he really wants to be remembered as a captain who is fair and honest, he needs to be more professional and get rid of Imran Farhat and get in Fawad Alam and must create a slot for Younus Khan in the team. It could be in place of Yasir Hameed, because Azhar Ali played well and he deserve more chances. If Salman Butt can do this and win the 4th test, he will earn more respect otherwise, he will just be another captain after Inzamam………. there are countless …….. but he needs to be different i.e., IF only he can think fair and think professionaly. It is good that Malik is out along with Amin. The deserving players should be in the team and not the sifarsihi ones. SHOAIB MALIK MUST BE SENT HOME.

  97. #97 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 21, 2010 - 11:14 PM


    You are right about Raja and wrong about Wasim Akram. My views about Wasim Akram will not change, I have said this before a zillion times that as a bowler he was great but as an individual he has no morals, he is very corrupt and cheap person. So, I have no respect for him.

    Raja is also joining the league of jingoists and very soon many people will notice his biased comments. That is why I said, Ramiz Raja Phutta Baja.

  98. #98 by Mohammed Munir on August 22, 2010 - 6:36 AM

    Finally Pakistan won and as Kasim Sahab rightly said above, ‘a win is a win’.

    To me the only difference between a win and another expected defeat was “Mohammed Yousuf”.

    Another difference could be “the one” which Varun Suri and KhanSahab have been discussing a few weeks back. I am sure there is definitely something to do with this being a month of Ramadan and the nation praying for this win while fasting. I guess we won the World Cup in Ramadan too … right ??

    On a different note, I fully agree with the above comments that Younis Khan and Fawad Alam will complete this team along with a fit ZulQarnain Haider who should replace Kamran Akmal. I hope Ijaz Butt allows Younis Khan to play in the fourth Test, as he said, and doesn’t change his mind after this win.

  99. #99 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 22, 2010 - 8:01 AM


    IF Ijaz Butt had a mind, he may change it, he is a mindless, senseless, arrogant and pompous wuss. He doesn’t care about anyone because of his uncouthness which he is not aware of it. In any case arrogance and self-awareness seldom go hand in hand so what do you expect from him? Whatever crawled up and died there in his Butt has finally come out and reportedly he has pardoned Younus Khan not for the sake of his inflated ego but, to save his own Big Fat Butt from the line of fire. The Senators are busy target practicing his Butt and before Zardari takes any action he wants to play it down so that Zardari cannot demand 10% of raw beef ………. you know from where? 😉

    I don’t agree with this common phrase “a win is a win” because we are not in record business i.e., writing history books or updating Guinness Book of World Records, a win must be convincing or a win must be snatched from the jaws of a certain defeat. Neither this win nor the one against Australia in the second test was by any means a convincing one. The bowlers did their job but the batsmen are way behind doing their job. Especially, Farhat, Kamran Akmal, his Chota and even Salman Butt.

    Nikki Butt initially taunted upon hearing Yousuf’s inclusion by saying, one man alone cannot win matches, that is true but one man was burdened with so much responsibility and was doubted, criticized and even ridiculed that he may not be able to perform because he did not play international cricket for the last six months or he does not have enough match practice. This 48 runs in the second innings from Salman Butt is the highest score he made since he has been appointed as captain of the test team, am I right here, or wrong?

    Whatever it is, Salman has not scored much and then he was not only reluctant but sarcastic upon Yousuf’s inclusion. He should go and thank him for playing and helping the team and winning this match for him and for the country. Had Yousuf not been in the team, Pakistan were 89 runs short and not only that, Azhar Ali may not have gotten the guidance and support from him on the field and his presence gave a new fresh hope to the team that there is an experienced classy batsman in the middle order who can rescue them in the time of distress.

    So, there should be no hesitation or reluctance in accommodating Younus Khan in the team.


    Adding Fawad Alam would even make the team much stronger in all departments.

  100. #100 by khansahab on August 22, 2010 - 8:21 AM

    700 children born with genetic disabilities due to cousin marriages every year

    The problem is worst among children born in Britain’s Pakistani community, where more than half of marriages are between first cousins, and children are 10 times more likely than the general population to suffer genetic disorders.
    The medical risks of first cousin marriages include higher rates of infant mortality, birth defects, learning difficulties, blindness, hearing problems and metabolic disorders.

  101. #101 by M. Y. Kasim on August 22, 2010 - 12:33 PM

    I deeply regret my last sentence when I said “I am going to catch some sleep and hope Kamran Akmal does no drop me”

    They say never utter a bad word even while joking, as you dont know if it will be accepted i.e. QABOOLIAT KA WAQT.

    As soon as I turned off the computer and tried to get up, my legs gave away. I was all over the floor, fortunately, no bones or ribs were broken:)

    My Daughter-in-law heard the thud and came running in to help me. I told her not to think about it as I am 6 feet tall and weigh aroud 160 lbs. Instead I asked her to bring my walker which I rarely use. Even walker could do nothing and finally I crawled back to my bedroom about 15 feet away, where my D.I.N., may Allah (SWT) bless her, had already folded and spread the comforter (Rajai) on the floor by my bed and put the Pillows and told me to go for sleep. She also gave me Blood Pressure pill and one sleeping pill and told me not to get till my Son return home.

    It has hapeened several times. It is the side-effect of Chemo-Therapy that you get Neouropathy meaning your body and particularly your legs gives away.

    There is nothing to worry since I have gone through this a lot:(

  102. #102 by khansahab on August 22, 2010 - 12:53 PM

    Kasim sahab

    I pray for your health. We all received a great jolt when you had stopped writing on this blog for a few months, some time ago. We were expecting the worst.

    I hope you live very long and that your remaining life is as painless as possible. And this I hope is the qabooliat ka waqt.

  103. #103 by khansahab on August 22, 2010 - 2:22 PM

    Yet another batting collapse for India. It seems they can’t get to grips with the absence of Tendulkar and Gambhir. Sehwag was never a consistent batsman, and it is unfair for India to rely on him in every match.

    Sehwag’s style of batting obviously opens door for inconsistency.

    This has been a chronic flaw of India- reliance on one or two star performers. Even in bowling, without Zaheer Khan and Harbhajan it sometimes appears vulnerable.

    I think the final will be between Sri Lanka and India though. Sri Lanka have always performed well against India.

  104. #104 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 22, 2010 - 2:35 PM

    Kasim Sahab

    It is very sad to hear the ordeal and agony that you have been through recently and I can understand the feeling of temporary disability that gives one a helpless feeling. Man thinks he is very strong but, it is exactly the opposite, we are very weak and fragile. Some time ago I had a back pain and being young I didn’t care much and one day it was so bad that I could hardly move. I am not trying to compare my pain or my situation with you or anyone but, I can imagine that feeling. May God help you in recovering fast and give you the strength to be on your own without any dependency. I will quote here the famous prayer:

    God, grant me the serenity
    To accept the things I cannot change;
    Courage to change the things I can;
    And wisdom to know the difference…………….
    Strength to get up and try again even when we feel it is hopeless.

  105. #105 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 22, 2010 - 3:09 PM

    After Sehri time, I dunno why I started to watch the whole bloody Indian innings only to see their batting collapse. Sehwag was wrongly given out by the umpire Kumar Dharmasena and Raina was not given out by Asad Rauf when he was out, 3 balls later from the other end Dharmasena gave Raina out when he was not out……. the drama continued with pathetic Pakistani style batting from India.

    The way Dhoni got out I think even Imran Farhat must have felt sorry for him. Five dot balls from Parera and the last one was a WIDE and Dhoni in Farhat style chased it and took a leap like a Cheetah and ended up like a lamb in the gloves of Sangakara. Although Dhoni scored 10 runs but both his fours came from edges past the slip fielder Jayawardene first from his right and the second one from his left.

    Apparently Yuvraj is the highest scorer from India but, he wasn’t able to connect the ball with his bat, totally out of form and the worst is one of the fours in his total was a bye which Asad Rauf awarded him as a four to his credit. Yuvraj looks fat and clumsy, it was very obvious from his interview with Tony Greg before the match and his running between the wicket proved that he is some fat person and not that athletic Yuvraj whose father once wanted to marry him to someone like Steffi Graf to have a super duper off-spring.


    That inter- family marriages or consanguineous marriages are not just in Britain or among the Pakistani Punjabi community but, it is widespread especially in South India and that too among Hindu families it is the highest. Sometime ago I was reading a research paper and among the Hindus it was 85% and among the Muslims it was 15% and you must have also heard about the Parsi families in the sub-continent mostly in Bombay and Karachi, the seldom marry their children outside the Parsi community which is a very small minority. Thus the disorders occur among individuals who are homozygous for a particular recessive gene mutation and it is also common among the European Noble Families where they refer them as “Royal Blood.”

    In Pakistan the Wadheras, Chaudrys and Sardars don’t want to share their wealth with an outsider thus they marry their daughters within the family to keep the wealth within the family, I think it is among the Rajputs as well. The worst thing that some Wadheray and Chaudhrys practice this horrific tradition by taking away the social rights of a woman when there is no rishta or no proposal for their daughters owing to age or for whatever other reason. They confine them in their house like a prisoner and tell them they are married to Quran Sharif. The act is called Haq Bakhshish in the south of Sindh it is practiced even today.

    I have found a link from the internet and here it is, below that is an excerpt from the same link which I am highlighting for those who hate Musharraf Parvez.

    The Pakistani government, particularly President Pervez Musharraf, has spoken strongly against this phenomenon within Pakistani society. Following the government’s amendment of the prescribed penalties as part of the Women’s Protection Bill, General Musharraf promised that a new law would be passed to ban and incriminate all those involved in such marriages.

  106. #106 by Varun Suri on August 22, 2010 - 4:39 PM

    khansahab & Javed A. Khan,

    Congratulations to you and also others for win over England. Right now I am in England and the my internet connection is very unreliable and that is the reason my last message got lost in Spam or elsewhere, thankfully you found it otherwise I had not saved it anywhere and did not have the motivation to type again what I’d wrote.

    The issue of Inter-family marriages is a very serious one and I assume khansahab brought this topic after watching the programme on Channel 4, on which I only saw the trailer but not the complete program. I am not so sure if this problem is so serious in other religious groups as it is in Muslims. It is a misconception that Parsis seldom marry outiside their community, it is the same with other religious and caste groups, the elderly follow it all while the young are not afraid to mix and match. I have several Parsi friends and not even one is abnormal and almost all of them have married outside their community.

    It is even more surprising that the number of Parsis living in India from the last census of 2001 was 69601 and the projection is that by 2020 this number will come down to 23000 primarily because most of them are marrying outside their communities. Such a small community has done so much for the country their ancestors adopted and it is difficult to believe that they would have this problem in abundance as they have produced some truly great people and it’s a shame on Iran that they were expelled or made to leave that country ages ago.

    I am not so sure about Hindus v/s Muslims on this one so would not go any deeper into this.

  107. #107 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 22, 2010 - 4:52 PM


    You better read my comment again, especially the point I have emphasised about Chaudhries, Whaderas and Sardars how cruel they are and they are not in India and not Hindus but, in Pakistan and are Muslims. As regards my comments on Parsis, I have not lived in Bombay but in Karachi they are still confined to the community and you can tell from their pale faces that they don’t marry outside, there are always exceptions. One of my Agha Khani banker friends who is a gold medalists in M.Com, MBA finance, highly qualified, good looking, smart, intelligent and a successful banker from the USA has this problem, she said her mother doesn’t want her to marry outside the “Jaat” (I guess she meant community) and she cannot find her match within the community, because of this problem she didn’t marry at all. I haven’t met or heard her since a decade so I have no clue about her now.

  108. #108 by Varun Suri on August 22, 2010 - 5:20 PM

    Javed A. Khan,

    I did read your comment properly and that is the reason I chose not to comment on Hindu v/s Muslims as far as this topic is concerned because I can’t claim to be very well informed on this subject but as far as Parsis are concerned I tried to provide some reasoning through my personal experience and also gave some numbers. One underlying assumption in my argument was that I was only concerned with Parsis who are living in India and not abroad say in Karachi or in the West, maybe you do see more pale faces there as there is maybe more pressure their to stick to their roots or communities.

    On the other hand if just having a pale face is enough to prove that he/she married within the family then probably mroe than half of the Chinese are like that due to their yellow pale faces… 🙂

  109. #109 by khansahab on August 22, 2010 - 5:38 PM


    I read this news on the internet and did not watch the TV programme. I hate terrestrial TV, I find it too boring. These days I only get time to watch Pakistani news on TV, and sometimes Indian movie trailers and songs when I am sitting with family.

    I spend a substantial time on the internet reading news, seeking information about various issues and watching girls.

    Javed A Khan

    You know about the widespread Punjabi community in UK. I don’t think this culture of inter family marriages is restricted to Choudharies only- I think you may be implying that that is how the concept started.
    Anyway, it is common here to get married into “apnay”- it usually starts from your family, then goes to your village, then your district and then your province. So, you hear of “Ay meray mamay di kuri hai”, “meri pen da moonda” etc. In fact, in most families it is common for young men and women to have affairs in college and university and then to cease relationships, as the family bonds are so strong that they know they will only be married to someone from their family. If not family, then at least someone who has to be a Punjabi.

    The reason for this is this mentality of parochialism, which I have spoken about for a long time. I have spoken to people about this and they say, “Why not open doors for our brothers/cousins/village people/fellow Punjabis” to come to the UK and seek a better life?” They see it not only as a reinforced bond between the families, but also an opportunity for their kind to prosper. Meanwhile, most Urdu Speakers I have met here, do not want their relatives to establish themselves in the UK- possibly because they don’t want others within their family to prosper like they have done. Of course there will be exceptions but I am talking generally.

  110. #110 by khansahab on August 22, 2010 - 5:53 PM

    Zulqarnain vows a quick comeback

    LAHORE: Pakistan’s injured number-two wicket-keeper Zulqanain Haider has vowed to stage a strong comeback after recovering from his finger injury that forced his return from England.

    Haider, who made his Test debut in the second Test against England at Edgbaston, scored a 0 and 88 in Pakistan’s nine-wicket loss.

    “I was advised rest for two weeks and will be available for selection after that,” said Haider after his return from England. “I’m thankful to the selectors for giving me this opportunity to prove myself and am very satisfied with my performance.”

    “My injury was aggravated due to Stuart Broad’s throw but due to the good relations between the two boards, I opted not to protest or complain against his act and show good spirit.”

    Haider also lauded the use of technology as he benefited from the Decision Review System twice while narrowly avoiding becoming only the second Test debutant to bag a king pair.

    “It was tough time in the middle as I was playing my first innings. Everything was happening very fast but in the second innings I kept my cool and quickly realised that ball was turning too much and would’ve missed leg so I took up the chance to review.”

  111. #111 by M. Y. Kasim on August 22, 2010 - 9:48 PM

    Khansahab, Javed Khan and all the bloggers.

    Thank you for your good wishes and prayers.

    Khansahab, you made me laugh, I have my Mamoo Ki Betee and my elder son also has his Mamoo Ki Betee!!!

    We Memons love our Mamoo Ki Beteeya!!!

  112. #112 by khansahab on August 22, 2010 - 10:00 PM

    Kasim sahab

    I hope you didn’t take offence at my comment.

  113. #113 by M. Y. Kasim on August 22, 2010 - 10:52 PM

    Like I said, we the Memon community love our Mamoo Ki Beteeya 🙂

  114. #114 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 22, 2010 - 11:48 PM


    I don’t mean to label Parsis with a pale face and your example about Chinese people is very valid. When they marry outside their community the off-springs are different in some cases much better looking (handsome or beautiful). After living in Dubai for so long and after traveling a lot I can see the difference between Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and Filipinos and likewise, I can tell the difference between a Lebanese, Egyptian, Syrian, Moroccan, Libyan etc. earlier it was very difficult for me to differentiate. Most people say all Chinese look alike, I heard Chinese saying exactly the same for Indians, Pakistanis and Europeans. Most people in North America cannot make the right guess about my nationality or my country of origin and say may be from Spain, France, Italy, Turkey, Greece etc., anyways these are just trivial matters that is why in our religion there is no restriction on marrying an outsider in fact the religion encourage people to do that i.e., to be more inclusive. But, it is the people who like to restrict, confine, segregate etc., etc. And you are right in Pakistan not only the Parsis want to stick to their roots. Even among the Shias they want to marry only among Shias and not Sunnis but, there are thousands of cases where the individuals have broken this custom and tradition and are living “happily ever after.” 😀 Take care.

  115. #115 by Mohammed Munir on August 23, 2010 - 7:40 AM

    Kasim Sahab …

    All we can do is to pray for your good health and recovery from this condition.

    But more importantly, I Salute your courage and guts for facing life with such spirit.

    Our prayers also for your Son, Daughter-in-Law and other family members. You really are a lucky man to have such a loving family.

    May Allah gives good health and lot of courage to all ailing persons.

  116. #116 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 23, 2010 - 12:20 PM

    Quoting from Munir‘s comment 117 on Mr. Kasim‘s health “You really are a lucky man to have such a loving family.”

    Exactly, this is what I felt the other day but, forgot to mention it in my comments. In today’s time, especially in this part of the world everyone has his own life and everyone is very busy, the most neglected ones are the children and old people. I keep wondering how our kids would treat us when we are old and dependent? So far and apparently they are much better than most kids we see but, taking care of aging and ailing parents over a long sustainable period of time is another matter where patience, endurance and everything else runs out because life is so tough here and no one can provide total care and attention to the old ones.

    What we have done or doing for our elders, our children cannot match or do the same for us. May be they are lacking in expression and not in feelings but, it scares me when I think of getting old and dependent. Not only the goray but our desis have also started sending their parents to old homes where care is taken by nurses and support staff. In some cases language is a big problem and desi women no matter how old they get do not like to be attended by male staff. In hospitals, the facilities are good when especially when you compare it to other countries but, the cultural gap is very big. And, the hospital gown is a joke whoever designed it has no sense of “haya” that is the word I can come up because there is no equivalent of haya in English. Someone has rightly commented about it in the UK by saying: “Our hospital gowns are like our insurance cover, we think we are covered but, we are not.”

    In Canada we have a free health care system for everyone and that is really a blessing, at least what we pay in taxes throughout our life gets paids back when you are old, aging and ill. Whereas, in the US and many other countries, God forbid if you are seriously ill and if you have to get hospitalized and, if there is a surgery then, whatever you have saved disappears in thin air in the name of hospital bills in just a few weeks, in other words, you earn all your life with sweat and blood and then you pay through your nose.

    So, Mr. Kasim I endorse Munir’s views about you having a loving and caring family with you. May Allah guide all other people to be so nice, caring and loving for their old and ailing parents. Amin.

  117. #117 by M. Y. Kasim on August 23, 2010 - 12:49 PM

    Munir Saheb and Javed A. Khan,

    You guys are absolutely right, I have been blessed by Allah (SWT)

    Will you guys believe me when I say that my Son even cleaned my Urinals and Bedpans when I was struck the first time for quite a few days?

    I dont want to discuss it since he has already earned his way to Jannah, Insha-Allah.

  118. #118 by Varun Suri on August 23, 2010 - 3:16 PM


    I agree with you that terrestrial TV is too boring here with all the X Factors and Reality TV but I do watch occasionally documentaries either on BBC,National Geographic or History Channel. Although many times the programmes on History Channel are so America specific that I feel that channel should be re-named as American History Channel

    Javed A.Khan,

    I agree with you that Canada has one of the better health care system than many other western countries and certainly much better than America. After watching Michael Moore’s documentary on this subject which was called Sick-o or something like that I would be too scared to visit the USA without a Medical Insurance. I think in this respect our India(& possibly Pakistan) is much better as although we do not have any concept of Health Care System but we do have plenty of doctors who have opened up a clinic or a hospital all by themselves and if one has the money he/she can get herself treated without having to wait for an appointment which could take anywhere from 2-4-8-16-? weeks (here in the West).

    The concept of looking after your parents once they are old is very Sub-Continental and not many societies around the World really do care on this subject apart from coming up with ideas such as Old-Age Homes or Full-Time Nurses to look after the old. However I fear that slowly and gradually we will also go the Western Way like we have in so many other speheres of life.

    On a different subject, These days it’s not often that any bad news coming from Pakistan saddens me so much as it has become so much a routine affair but I would like to share my thoughts on the recent incident in Sialkot which pained me so much that I have not been able to stop myself from thinking about the two brothers for the past two days.

    I sincerely hope and pray(even though I don’t pray to God anymore) that in my lifetime the people living in Pakistan are freed from the corrupt Feudal Lords, Police and the Politicians who are hell bent on ruining a Country which has great potential only if all the energy is channelised into the right direction and also I want India to be free of it’s corruption and bureacreacy because it is only as Friends both India and Pakistan can make that transition from developing to developed and not fighting amongest themselves something which the Europeans realised 60 Years ago and the results of which are for all of us to see.

  119. #119 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 23, 2010 - 6:28 PM


    There is an expression for the people of Sialkot and it is given by the people of Punjab and not any one else. It is, “Sialkoti Haram Boti.”

    Endorsing this expression is generalizing but, the way people have brutally killed those two innocent brothers is such a shameful act that to say “I am saddened” is not enough, it hurts so much especially if you feel the pain by imagining yourself in their shoes, I mean how the families must have felt after seeing that video. It would bleed any human being’s heart and for the families it is unforgettable event, an irreparable loss. I was shocked to see how those savages were hitting those two poor and harmless teenage boys and on top of that not only the whole group of people but the two policemen were watching as if it is some kinda entertainment.

    All I can say is, there was not a single MAN in that group they were all impotent, spineless, gutless bastards who could not stop those savages from killing them and then hanging them on the poles. Which religion and which country has such laws and rights that they can do this to anyone? Pakistan is already famous for every wrong thing that happens and it is dealing with crisis after crisis, the politicians are corrupt and there is no law in the country and then, these people go out and butcher these innocent children?

    Rahman Malik was saying on TV that he would like to do the same to those people i.e., kill them the same way and hang them on the same spot to show it to the people that this is what they deserve. Rahman Malik should have thought for a second before blabbing out. Is he really going to do that? It is not difficult to get those culprits because their faces are very clear on the video and many people can identify them and getting hold of those two policemen is also not difficult. What kinda law enforcement agency is this? They cannot abide the law, they cannot protect the innocent, they just watch a crime like a spectator. Trust me if you and I see such a thing happening we would definitely interfere and say something or try to protect them but, a policeman stands there and watch like a Tamasha? What a shame, what a disgraceful act, I can’t believe people can do such things. I understand the mob mentality when there is a national threat or a religious outburst but, butchering two innocent kids in the name of robbery is justifiable? The big robbers, thieves and thugs are running the country so why beat the hell out of two innocent kids?

  120. #120 by M. Y. Kasim on August 23, 2010 - 8:08 PM


    I just remembred a joke we used to tease each other rmany years ago in Karachi. It goes like this, many of us were/are Mamoo Ke Damad, a sort of club like Diners club.

    They say pairs are made in Heaven. “Jore Asman Me Bante Hain. The Angle (Farishta) of Memons is very lazy. He does not go far, just gets the Mamoo Ki Ladki and saya take it or leave it. “I Aint Gonna Go Nowhere.”

  121. #121 by khansahab on August 23, 2010 - 8:49 PM

    Kasim sahab

    This is a joke that Urdu Speakers use for Punjabis, it is slightly offensive so I apologise in advance. But your joke reminded me of this one.

    An Urdu Speaker who is upset by the amount of Punjabis in Karachi dies and meets God. When he is speaking to God he is asked about how the situation is in Karachi and he complains, “God Almighty! I am fed up of Punjabis everywhere, wherever you look you find them”. So God says, “Is that so!?” He tells a Farishta, “I want you to go down to Karachi and check whether this news about Punjabis being everywhere, is true”.

    So in response the Farishta says, “Hurn gaya si, Hurn aaya…………………..”

  122. #122 by khansahab on August 23, 2010 - 9:00 PM

    Young Indian players are spoilt: Akram

    MUMBAI: The Indian cricketers should make most of the “excessive” cricket rather than complain about it, feels former Pakistan captain Wasim Akram.

    “It’s a boon, not a punishment,” he asserts.

    On a short visit to India, Akram in a free wheeling talk with the TOI on Sunday termed the young and upcoming Indian players as “softies” and “spoilt” for their lack of enthusiasm and energy.

    “In the 90s there used to be 10-12 Tests annually. I guess it’s the same now. We also played 30-35 ODIs. There were no T20s or IPL then, but we played county cricket for a month each year. Today, there are so many opportunities and so much money that the players don’t seem to care.

    “The dream to represent the country for long doesn’t seem to exist. Look at some of the young Indian bowlers. They breakdown every now and then. Last year, when I was involved with the IPL (Akram was bowling consultant for the Kolkata Knight Riders), I realised that the bowlers were happy bowling just 3-4 overs in the nets. I was amazed. Softies is the word to describe them. They are also spoilt and don’t believe in working hard,” said the 44-year-old.

    Akram was also unhappy with young Indian batsmen Rohit Sharma and Robin Uthappa.

    “They are so talented but where are they heading? Rohit has so much class, but when will he make an impact? It doesn’t matter at what number you bat. At this age, he should show the world your worth. Uthappa too hasn’t done himself any justice.”

  123. #123 by M. Y. Kasim on August 23, 2010 - 10:48 PM

    I am sorry and regret my folly that at a time like this when two handsome and highly talented young brothers were butchred in Sialkot and millions of Pakistanis are homless, hungry, thirsty and have nothing left and no hope of any help while the “Rulers” are enjoying their life as usual.

    I was thinking of commenting on these situation, but after reading Javed A. Khan’s article, there is nothing anybody can add to it. He has covered all the bases as they say and none of us could do but condemn and repent our sins.

  124. #124 by M. Y. Kasim on August 23, 2010 - 11:14 PM


    I just finished reading an article “Yousuf bats like a King” in The Nation newspaper published from Lahore by the Nawa-e-Waqt group.

    I dont know how to copy paste, would you kindly do it? It is one of the best article I have seen!

  125. #125 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 23, 2010 - 11:48 PM

    Mr. Kasim

    You can highlight that article and then go to edit and copy it and then paste here.

    Also when you click on Edit you see select all, the whole article is highlighted copy it and paste it.

    Its iftar time ttyl

  126. #126 by M. Y. Kasim on August 24, 2010 - 12:21 AM

    Javed A. Khan,

    I cant do it, tried several times LOL, you are right its time for Maghrib and Iftar. God Bless you.

  127. #127 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 24, 2010 - 3:09 AM


    You have said, “I fear that slowly and gradually we will also go the Western Way like we have in so many other speheres of life.”

    Well it is true that we are not late in adapting Western ways in all spheres of life but, what we fail to understand is these are not Western ways or culture, it is the modern culture where life is being taken away from us in every sphere and it is being institutionalized. You can see from the time we are born till the time we are dead and buried we have given everything in the hands of institutions.

    There was a time whether in East or in the West, child birth was at home and midwives and even doctors used to deliver babies at home. I can understand that hospitals are a better place than home but, look at the birthday parties, the caterers have taken this job, there are party and wedding planners, there are old homes and burial homes and everything is institutionalized. I would still like the old traditions of birthday parties at home instead of Pizza Hut, McDonald or Kentucky Fried Chicken. I still prefer the weddings to take place in more traditional way i.e., all relatives, close friends and neighbours organize the events, I would still prefer my last rites to be performed by my children or close relatives rather than a burial home.

    Recently one of my neighbour’s son got married and at his house more than 30-40 relatives and guests were staying and some of them were staying at our place and some at some other neighbour’s place and I told him not to order food from the restaurant for the regular meals because, some of us organized and delivered food at their house and it was not only better quality but, a good variety and more healthy food than any restaurant would give.

    Au contraire one of my cousin’s son got married and they booked hotel rooms in bulk for 60-70 people everyone paid for themselves and they ate food at the hotel’s restaurant. Its OK to have breakfast but not every meal at the restaurant anyways, they were happy that it was done in a very organized way but, there is no fun because the hosts were themselves behaving like guests!

    My grandfather and his brothers they all studied in England and when they returned home after many years of staying abroad they found a bit difficult to settle down in their own country where they grew up because in those days radio was the only means of knowing about the foreign countries hence there was a big cultural gap between those who studied abroad and returned (Vilayat Palatt) and those who stayed home. But, today some of us when we go back to Pakistan and India, in many ways they treat us like we are some backward people. They have better telephone sets than us, they have better laptops and other electronic gadgets and they are aware of latest music and movies and ask questions which we hardly pay any attention here but, over there it is a status symbol for them to have those gadgets. Internet, live chatting, GSM phones, iPhones with WiFi and what not and live streaming etc., they see more new movies than us………. EXCEPT for MUNIR because in Dubai there is monopoly in the telecommunications department and they have recently banned BlackBerry Phones because the ETISALAT cannot control black berry phones.

  128. #128 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 24, 2010 - 8:28 AM

    IJAZ BUTT ONCE AGAIN BACKING AWAY IN BUTT (REVERSE) GEAR ……….. he is once again saying he is not happy with YOUNUS KHAN’s statements in the media and making an excuse about his form by saying he is not in good form hence he does not want to include Younus Khan in the team. Now, Shahid Afridi and Mohsin Khan are going to meet Butt before the last test and to decide the team for ODI and T20.

  129. #129 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 24, 2010 - 9:22 AM

    Poet Allama Iqbal said:

    Dasht tou Dasht hai Dariya bhee na chora hum nay
    Mohakma-e-Junglaat may daora diyeh ghoray hum nay

    Likewise, upon reading this news item, I would like to say:

    Mard tou Mard thay aortaon nay bhee chora nahee “dum” ko
    Chilam say bujhee nahee pyaas tou maidan may apnaya dope ko.

    I can’t believe 4 out of 7 athletes tested positive for doping are females, a month ago two more female athletes were banned for the same reason.

    dum = drug sniffing (dum maro dum, mitt jaye ghum)
    Chilam = I guess most of you know what it is? It is that Hookah in which they pour drugs and then inhale (smoke pot, hashish whatever).

  130. #130 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 24, 2010 - 2:00 PM


    16 member Pakistan ODI and Twenty20 Squad for England tour:

    Shahid Afridi (captain),
    Kamran Akmal (wicket-keeper),
    Salman Butt,
    Shahzaib Hassan,
    Mohammad Yousuf,
    Azhar Ali,
    Umar Akmal,
    Mohammad Hafeez,
    Fawad Alam,
    Saeed Ajmal,
    Umar Gul,
    Mohammad Amir,
    Mohammad Asif,
    Abdul Razzaq,
    Shoaib Akhtar,
    Wahab Riaz

  131. #131 by khansahab on August 24, 2010 - 6:57 PM

    Kasim sahab

    I think you are referring to the following article?

    Yousuf has been described as the “King” since we wrote a thread called, “Return of the King” on Yousuf some time ago, in my opinion.


    Yousuf bats like a king and proves his worth

    Muhammad Yousuf has changed his name and his faith, and on the opening day of the third test he transformed Pakistan’s batting so fundamentally that he might have been a monarch returning from exile to reclaim his throne.
    This was the day Pakistan rediscovered their mojo and their MoYo, as Yousuf is referred to in internet circles. He batted for only two and a half hours and scored just 56 but, for the first time in this series, Pakistan bossed the stage and England’s bowlers looked a bit fed-up – no bad thing with the Ashes round the corner.
    Changing name and religion did not have a noticeably adverse effect on Muhammad Ali’s career and the batsman formerly known as Yousuf Youhana has been an even more formidable player since making the same alterations towards the end of 2005.
    Yousuf, right, is not just a good player, he is a great one. He is right up there with Javed Miandad and Inzamam-ul-Haq – Miandad may well be the finest of them but Yousuf has the higher average.
    Yet his recall to the side was a controversial one, not least for the fact that it threatened to undermine their callow captain, Salman Butt.
    Yousuf, after all, had been banned indefinitely after captaining Pakistan on their catastrophic tour of Australia in the winter, when they lost every match.
    There were stories of dissent and broken curfews and at the end of it Yousuf, along with Younus Khan, were hauled before what passes for a beak in Pakistan and accused of being bad influences on the team.
    Butt, though, was full of praise for Yousuf last night. “He made it easier for the younger players to play around him,” he said. “Cricket is a mind game as well. And he has influence because of the record he has. I think he is the most stylish player in the modern era. When he’s batting it seems as though there is a lot of time and no matter how quick the bowler is, it looks really easy. It’s like Inzamam-ul-Haq used to be.”

  132. #132 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 24, 2010 - 7:05 PM

    With Shoaib Malik not in the squad for ODI and T20, he should be sent back to Sialkot. I am surprised that it too such a long time for the selectors to realize that he is a NOTHING PLAYER and a negative impact on the team. Since he was not playing in the test he should have been sent earlier like they did to Danish Kaneria. Why the HELLO is he still there? Is there a Sania Mirza Parchee or what? Perhaps the MNA’s and Senators are too busy in Sailaab that they couldn’t do anything to retain him in the team as a ball boy! 😀

  133. #133 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 24, 2010 - 7:07 PM


    When did we write a thread with that name?

  134. #134 by khansahab on August 24, 2010 - 7:46 PM

    J’wade Khan

    It was last year in July:

  135. #135 by khansahab on August 24, 2010 - 7:50 PM

    Kapil endorses Indo-Pak match to raise funds for flood victims

    Former Indian captain Kapil Dev has endorsed the idea of having a India-Pakistan match to raise funds for the millions of people stranded and displaced due to the floods in Pakistan.

    “I would like to see an Indo-Pak match for the purpose of raising funds for the flood victims,” Kapil told a television channel from New Delhi.

    Kapil expressed his deep grief and sorrow over the loss of lives and property in the devastating floods in many parts of Pakistan.

    “It’s a huge calamity and to help the affectees, Pakistan and India should ideally play either in Pakistan or India, but if it is not possible then a neutral venue is also an option for both boards,” Kapil said.

    The Pakistan Cricket Board has said that it is in contact with the Indian cricket Board and the International Cricket Council to arrange the funds raising match for flood victims, Sources in the PCB said that until now the Indian board has not given a final response but the PCB was hopeful of a positive response soon.

    “We are also in touch with the ICC to help and support in organizing the Indo-Pak match. The PCB is keen to raise more funds for the flood victims,” the source added.

  136. #136 by khansahab on August 24, 2010 - 7:55 PM

    Well done Altaf Hussein for doing what you did.

    No politician has ever had guts to openly ask the Army to punish corrupt politicians.
    Hussain’s statement based on ill-intent: Sharif

    ISLAMABAD: The statement of MQM chief Altaf Hussain has created quite a stir in the political circles of the country, with PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif saying that the “pro-martial law statement” was based on “ill-intent”.
    “Altaf Hussain’s party is a signatory to the 18th amendment and yet he is favouring the imposition of martial law in the country,” Sharif told journalists in Dera Ismail Khan. He added that such statements could negatively impact the democratic process.
    On Sunday Altaf Hussain demanded of the Pakistan Army generals to take action against “corrupt politicians”, saying that “the MQM will openly support such generals.”
    Calling the statements “irresponsible”, opposition leader in the National Assembly Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan said that the PML-N will submit a privilege motion in the National Assembly against the statements. He added that the Supreme Court and the Election Commission should also take note of it.

  137. #137 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 24, 2010 - 9:54 PM


    The reason these notorious politicians are doing “Munn-Maani” is because they have made the Army impotent….. in the sense that they have called Musharraf a dictator and used the Western media to sympathize with them that the army is a hindrance in bring back democracy in the country blah, blah…. and now the army cannot come back to drive away these corrupt politicians and they know it very well. Hence they have a free hand to do whatever they want and they get away with it. Previously, they used to fear that if they create chaos in the country the army will come and take over from them, so there was some fear, the lawlessness was there but, not to this extent as it is now. Look at the way these two innocent brothers were butchered by these savages and police stood there like spectators.

    You see such scenes in Hindi movies where the hero is throwing punches at the villain and his chamchas but, that is filmi shooting and fake actions, this was real and the victims were two teenagers and these Mushtandaas were clubbing them to death with so much rage and hatred that I have never seen in my life.

  138. #138 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 24, 2010 - 9:59 PM


    Return of the king was only last year in July and I have totally forgotten about it so whoever wrote that actually copied your caption? This is not the first time it happened remember our thread caption from Lahore to Lords, it was also copied by someone may one of the writers on cricinfo? Apart from that most of our comments and analysis are also hijacked and used elsewhere. Our campaign against Malik started 4-5 years ago and people are now beginning to realize and take action against him. Same with Misbah and Kamran Akmal.

  139. #139 by M. Y. Kasim on August 24, 2010 - 11:16 PM

    This morning, I wrote a blogg on the BBC. Here is the gist of what I wrote:

    “The Imperialist British Exploiters” build Bridges, Culverts, Roads, Dams Barrages and all kinds of Infra-stuctures with 50 to 100 years expectancy.

    After the establishment of Pakistan, “we” also started building all these things and spent a thousand time more money than the British.

    Can somebody explain to me how come those expired and out-dated stuctures built by the British are still there and the ones built by “us” at a cost of thousand times more are/were swept away by raging floods?????

  140. #140 by M. Y. Kasim on August 24, 2010 - 11:25 PM

    Here is the gist of what I wrote on the DAWN’s cricket blogg:

    This is the Holy Month of Ramadan. Our players are very pious. They know or think that the Balls coming from the sky are the Neimat, Fazilat and Barkaats from Allah (SWT) and must not be touched or disturbed.

  141. #141 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 25, 2010 - 9:26 AM

    Mr Kasim

    LOL at your Ramadan Balls.

    If Neamat, Fazilat and Barkaats are included in the team then we should get rid of Akmal, Farhat and Maliks. I guess they will play Farhat in the final test despite his repeated failures. The good thing is he is not in the ODI and T20 squad. However, I am surprised to see the names of Mohammed Hafeez and Shoaib Akhtar in the ODI and T20 squad. Also, this tendency from selectors that one player’s solo performance is hailed as a tremendous achievement and he is rewarded from here to Aakhirat. I am referring to Wahab Riaz’s inclusion in the ODI and T20 squad. With Gul, Asif and Aamir they don’t need two more fast bowlers in the squad i.e., Akhtar and Riaz.

    People don’t remember how expensive these two have been against Sri Lanka in Pakistan 16 months ago. Akhtar was thrashed for 43 in 3 overs along with Tanvir and in T20 matches. And Wahab Riaz was thrashed for 90 runs in 9 overs in the same series at home in one of the ODI’s and in the other ODI’s he gave more than 60 runs. Whereas, Asif, Aamer and Gul have not only taken wickets but are also very economical. This patronizing business must end, otherwise the team will never be a good one with sponsored players. Sponsored by politicians and placed like their pawns!

  142. #142 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 25, 2010 - 9:30 AM

    Mr Kasim

    Those bridges were also built by the local people BUT, under the supervision of the British Exploiters. Therefore, there was no corruption and proper material was used as per specs whereas, here if they have to mix 10 bags of cement with 10 bags of sand, the would mix one bag of cement with ten bags of sand. And use cheap grade steel (Sariya) which rots with rust in no time.

  143. #143 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 25, 2010 - 9:35 AM


    Dhoni is playing musical chairs game with Rohit Sharma and Virot Kohli but, keeping his blue eyed boy “Jaddoo” in every single match. In the previous match Rohit and Kohli both scored ZERO and Rohit was dropped today for the match against NZ and Kohli scored only 11 runs and walked away in sheer disappointment because that ball was simply unplayable. Sehwag is whacking fours and Mills is on the grind.

  144. #144 by Varun Suri on August 25, 2010 - 11:26 AM

    I think just like Malak Jaddu has also some kind of backing from some big politician otherwise I would pick Irfan Pathan any day over him, he is certainly a much better batsmen than him and a pretty useful bowler in T-20 and probably in ODI’s.

    I think few months ago we had a debate on Sharma v/s Raina and I think you would also agree with me that even with the short-ball weakness of Raina he has certainly performed better than Sharma and Sharma is walking on his last legs and will have to prove his worth or make way for Cheteshwar Pujara or someone else.

    As far as Kohli is concerned he is certainly techinically a better player than Sharma and Raina but of late he also has been able to replicate his earlier form.

    No words are enough to highlight the importance of Sehwag in this Indian Team and all i can say about him is What a player!

    Sehwag has just holed out to deep midwicket and just before he played the shot I was thinking it is only 31 overs and if he can go all the way than surely he can cross 200 but alas! I hope Dhoni can atleast take the score to 250 or we are in for a quick collapse again?

  145. #145 by newguy on August 25, 2010 - 2:58 PM

    Today’s Ind-NZ game is becoming another one side farce event. Chasing 224 to win NZ are now 52/7 and may get bowled out for their lowest score against India.

    I am am surprised so far none of the so called experts or authorities have commented on the matter of this Dambulla pitch that allows team batting first with an unfair advantage, so much that making second batting almost impossible to win unless the target is so small.

    Sri Lanka do not have good facilities for playing and their pitch conditions are not good for playing ODI or Tests. No wonder no one other than India is playing there, and this is only because SLC is bankrupt and BCCI can take advantage of them by getting their voting rights in ICC and in turn helping out financially through end less Ind-SL games.

    The horror situation now is there will be another Ind-SL final match, a totally meaningless series and totally meaningless games.

    One positive thing is bowlers may be able to boost their average a bit, games are one sided to batsmen mostly these days so may be this is good. Nehra bowled 5 overs for 6 runs and 1 wicket, what a figure! Making him look like super bowler. Even Munna bhai Patel after a long break is coming back and taken two wickets for cheap.

    On the flip side all batsmen including Dhoni have single digit averages this series, except Sehwag who is playing on another planet.

    It is unbelievable how Sehwag does this when no one from either team have managed a hundred on this Dambulla pitch, he has managed two (counting the 99 not out to no ball as a hundred actually).

  146. #146 by newguy on August 25, 2010 - 3:15 PM

    Javed Khan,

    Dhoni’s unending love for “Jaddoo” is again on display as he gave the ball to Jaddoo with the last pair in, he is getting hit for two sixes now and NZ may go over 100 runs and save face. Dhoni should have bough back Nehra and try to finish off things, instead he wanted Jadoo to get a couple of wickets so that it can be shown as his value in the team. Like Varun said I too suspect some political backing here. This guy is worthless at number 7 spot, he proved it again today. But no matter what he keeps finding a permanent place in the team.

  147. #147 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 25, 2010 - 3:20 PM

    newguy & Varun

    It is true that the match is a one way affair and there is no interest left except for a few fours and a few sixes from Mills plus another six from Southee taking them past 100. Kyle Mills is still batting at 48 in 28 balls with 6 fours and 3 sixes, one of which is a flat six off the bowling of Praveen Kumar.

    Munna Bhai Patel must be happy with 3 wickets to his name. Jaddoo Baddoo is a nothing player gave away three sixes of the innings on his bowling and Dhoni is still “Puchkaaring” with, “Koi baat nahee Jaddoo” and I agree with Varun that Irfan Pathan is any time better than him.

    But, what a player Sehwag is, he was playing with so much ease and comfort, even Dhoni was struggling his 38 is the second best score but by his own standards is a mediocre performance. The moment Sehwag was gone it was all over Dhoni didn’t survive long enough to take the score past 250. I wonder if you guys have noticed or not, India has not played a full quota of 50 overs in this entire series so far (4 matches) and that is very alarming. Is it because of the pitch or ground conditions or is it the weather?

    Arnold Russel was earlier telling that “we have a very clear blue sky here with a lot of gray clouds, other than that the weather is very fine.” And one of the NZ commentators was saying, “there is a fine breeze here but it is windy.”

  148. #148 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 25, 2010 - 3:25 PM


    agreed, but right now Asad Rauf has messed up the whole thing by creating a chaos on the ground concerning the batting power play, the players from both side agree that it was taken and played but Asad Rauf has some kinda problem with that, that he is not aware of it.

  149. #149 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 25, 2010 - 3:36 PM

    Congratulations guys, finally the ordeal has ended and India won the match thanks to Sehwag and Mills for some entertaining shots. We are now going to wait for the meaningless final which will be between India and Sri Lanka. I am not happy with the playing conditions at Dambulla, the team playing second has no chance unless the target is very low.

    There will be another meaningless test match that is to be played between Pakistan and England, like Jaddoo Baddoo no one will drop Imran Farhat from the team bakaoz his pader in la is the selector.

  150. #150 by Varun Suri on August 25, 2010 - 3:45 PM

    Oh No.. another India-Srilanka match. When will they spare us of this agony!!

    Not only Irfan Pathan I belive even MynameisYKP.Mynick-nameisYKP is also a better player than Jaddu. atleast he can belt some huge sixers when the pitches are flat. Jaddu doesnt seem to be capable enough to do that!!

    On a differnt subject a journo names Sharda Ugra has written a critical article on how Dhoni and Co. kept the media waiting for 2 hours for the Post-Match Press Conference. I think they should have kept the pathetic Indian Media waiting for more than 24 hours. They would not whine when the Politicans or Bollywood stars will keep them waiting forever but all they want is to create some Breaking-news every now and then just like they did with the whole Randiv No-ball affair. It’s simply disgusting. Pathetic!

  151. #151 by khansahab on August 25, 2010 - 5:39 PM

    According to The News, Afridi asked for Younis Khan in the squad and for Malik to be dropped.

    Ijaz Butt did not clear Younis, but on Afridi’s insistence dropped Malik.

  152. #152 by khansahab on August 25, 2010 - 5:40 PM

    No grudges against Younis, says Yawar Saeed

    Just minutes after Younis Khan was overlooked for the limited-overs series against England, Pakistan manager Yawar Saeed washed his hands off the latest snub to the former captain.
    Yawar, who is a close friend of Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Ijaz Butt, said here on Tuesday that he doesn’t hold any grudges against Younis, who was not included in a 16-man squad announced by Pakistan for two Twenty20 Internationals and five one-dayers to be played against England next month.
    There have been various media reports suggesting that the main reason why the PCB has kicked Younis out of national squad is because the player’s uneasy relationship with Yawar.
    It’s generally believed that Yawar and the experienced batsman fell out during Younis’s stint as Pakistan captain last year. Reports have also suggested that Younis was instrumental in ending Yawar’s previous tenure as manager.
    Younis, 32, is one of Pakistan’s most successful Test batsmen in recent times, having accumulated 5260 runs at 50.09 from 63 Tests. He has also scored 5765 runs from 202 One-day Internationals.
    He was banned indefinitely after Pakistan’s catastrophic tour of Australia earlier this year. Several other leading players were also punished but the PCB later cleared them. However, the Board refuses to clear Younis for Pakistan duty in spite of the fact that the national team desperately needs experience to bolster their brittle batting.
    Well-placed sources told ‘The News’ on Tuesday that Younis’s insistence that he would not apologise to the Board is the only hurdle in his international comeback.
    Sources said that the Board wants Younis to apologise for his suspected role in Pakistan’s poor showing in Australia. But Younis is adamant that he did not wrong and will not say sorry for a sin he didn’t commit.
    “The PCB chairman (Ijaz Butt) has made it his ego problem,” said another source. “He wants Younis to say sorry but the former Pakistan captain has refused to do that.”

  153. #153 by khansahab on August 25, 2010 - 7:06 PM

    Musharraf to set up flood relief foundation

    LONDON: Former president General (retd.) Pervez Musharraf has announced that he will soon set up a flood relief foundation.

    Speaking to SAMAA today, he said, “I am getting my foundation registered from the Charity Commission.”

    He said that philanthropists and affluent people would be able to make their donations for flood victims through this foundation.

    “I will collect aid from across the world for the flood-ravaged people,” he said, adding that he is ready to provide all possible help for the affected people.

    Musharraf added that he would soon start a telethon service from the United States in this regard.

  154. #154 by khansahab on August 25, 2010 - 7:16 PM

    Younis exclusion unjustified,Abdul Ghaffar Qureshi

    LAHORE,Aug 25 (APP): Chairman,Senate Sub Committee on Sports,Abdul Ghaffar Qureshi has termed the exclusion of former captain Younis Khan from the one-day and T-20 Pakistan squad as “ unjustified “ and a unfair decision. “ Younis is a very experienced player and his presence could have enforced the middle order but unfortunately he was excluded on the personal will of Chairman,Pakistan Cricket Board,Muhammad Ijaz Butt”,he told APP on Wednesday.

    He said it is the larger interest of Pak cricket that the Chairman PCB should not intervene in the selection of team.
    Both the chief selector,Mohsin Khan and captain, Shahid Afridi were of the view that Younis should have been selected but sadly Chairman PCb did not give clearance to include him in the squad”,he added.
    He said Muhammad Yousaf on his return to test cricket put up good performance and his presence strengthened the middle order and lifted the overall batting performance.
    “ We firmly believe that Younis deserves a place in the team as he carries a lot of experience as a batsman and Chairman PCB took a unwise decision not to include him “,he said.
    Abdul Ghaffar Qureshi said the meeting of the sub committee which was to be held tomorrow,Thursday, has been postponed and will now be held after eid-ul-firt.
    The committee has summoned Chairman PCB who had earlier not attended the August 17 meeting owing to his engagements abroad.

  155. #155 by khansahab on August 25, 2010 - 7:34 PM

    I remember last year MQM threatened to conduct a nationwide protest for Younis Khan’s sake.

    I think people will start protesting soon to get Younis back into the team.

  156. #156 by khansahab on August 25, 2010 - 7:38 PM

    Firdous Awan says Sialkot boys were criminals

    ISLAMABAD, Aug 24: More controversy has engulfed the barbaric killing of two brothers in Sialkot as now a federal minister says that the two victims of mob rage were not that innocent as being portrayed by the media.
    Dr Firdous Ashiq Awan, Federal Minister for Population Welfare who also hails from Sialkot and this particular incident occurred in her own constituency, while talking to The News disclosed that she had met over five dozen villagers who were present when the incident took place and everyone had the same tale that these two boys were caught red-handed robbing the milk-seller brothers of whom one died the same day while the two sustained bullet injuries.

  157. #157 by khansahab on August 25, 2010 - 7:54 PM

    Mohsin Khan is history, he is just a puppet. He is a simpleton, if you hear him speak. He speaks OK English and Urdu but I have never seen him say anything very intelligent or deep.

    Time for Mohsin and Ijaz Butt to go.

    Ijaz Ahmed, the fielding coach and Yawar Saeed should also be sacked.

  158. #158 by M. Y. Kasim on August 25, 2010 - 8:25 PM

    That bitch who said that those two kids were Dacoits and were trying to rob a milkman must be insane:)

    She is a Federal Minister and should know that milkmen dont have Millions of Rupees in their pocketa since her Husband and Sons have looted not Milkmen but The National Exchequer abd Assets:(

  159. #159 by M. Y. Kasim on August 25, 2010 - 9:13 PM

    Talking about Bridges, Dams, Barrages etc. etc.

    Here is the classic.

    A corrupt officer had become an embrassment for the department, so the Head Baboo transferred him to a remote area where nothing was there excepi sand and sort of a jungle.

    Now, the officer said, “Well if they could do this to me, I know my way what to do.” He sent a request that there is a Nullah and people find it impossible to get to the Town where they can sell their produce and need a Bridge over it. The request was granted and funds were releaed. After about six months, he sent another report that the Bridge is hampering the smooth flow of rainwater, thereby destroying villagers’ crops and it should be demolished.

    Again the request was granted and funds released. And this game of such sorts continued till he was transferred to a lucrative post after his punishment.

  160. #160 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 25, 2010 - 10:37 PM

    Firdous Ashaq Awan must be suffering from dementia and getting hallucinations that those teenage boys were robbers and they robbed a milk-man. The whole of Sialkot is a KHASSEE TOWN they have no guts to save two innocent children from being butchered and they kept watching them till they were dead. Even the police is Khassee, in order to cover this blunder she is trying to mask the gravity of the situation by shifting the blame on these two innocent children.

    For a minute even if you believe her that they were criminals then, is there no law in the country? There is no justice system in the country? Why didn’t they hand them over to the police?

  161. #161 by JOKER on August 26, 2010 - 12:52 AM

    khansahab, Javed Khan and Kasim sahab

    I was also stunned upon reading the statement of that Bi*ch Minister Firdous Awan. Is she not the same cow who went to Shoaib Malik’s wedding? She was so proud about it and she said, he is Pakastan da Puttar and Sania is Sialkot di Izzat. How can she shift the blame on the kids and protect the police and the culprits. Javed Khan is right in calling the whole Sialkot as Khassee. It always happens in Punjab, Sindh, Baluchistan and Frontier that women and children are punished in public. In Punjab twice a few women were paraded stark naked in the whole town and no one did anything. In Baluchistan some women were shot and buried alive. In Frontier they keep flogging women in public or they kill them openly. That stupid minister of Baluchistan defended by saying it is their tradition! The Federal Education Minister Mir Hazar Khan Bajrani is from Sindh and he was involved in a case of Sawra and Vani where he traded off two innocent girls as blood victims. They made him Education Minister now.

    I appeal from everyone to write a petition against Firdous Ashiq Awan that she should be removed from the post of Federal Minister and she should be admonished for such blatant comments. Kasim sahab has rightly said that she must be insane to claim that they robbed a Milk Man. The biggest robbers, thieves and dacoits are looting the country and no one is doing anything against them.

  162. #162 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 26, 2010 - 1:01 AM

    Moin Khan has urged Mohsin Khan to resign from the post of chief selector because Ijaz Butt is interfering in his work. Ijaz Butt has made a personal issue with Younus Khan and is disregarding the interest of the country. His ego is so inflated and he knows no one can do anything to him, he is taking decisions at his whims and care about no one.

    Mohsin Khan is not going to resign he is a puppet and wants to save his job. Its a shame that people who come and work for the PCB suddenly becomes spineless and gutless they have no courage to stand up and say this is unfair. In my opinion if Mohsin wants to achieve something, he should not resign, he should go to the media on the TV he should say openly whatever differences he has with Ijaz Butt and if Butt fires him then he would be under more pressure to resign because he cannot go on and on like a dictator. He should be stopped before he ruins the PCB and the team.

  163. #163 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 26, 2010 - 1:24 AM


    It is not easy for anyone to remove a PPP minister you can see that a Duddoo like Ijaz Butt has so much power that no one can remove him i.e., because this is so-called DEMOCRACY.

    They wanted to remove Musharraf because they thought he was a dictator and now see what is happening in the country with all these Awami Leaders, each one of them is a big time dictator. They all know that the army cannot come back so there is no one to fear about and they can do anything they want and get away with it. The so-called Jiyalay of Sialkot can only do this much, butcher two innocent kids and feel like they are Rustom-e-Zaman.

  164. #164 by Mohammed Munir on August 26, 2010 - 8:16 AM

    LOL @ “Puchkaaring”

    BTW, Dhoni’s comments, “Koi baat nahee Jaddoo” reminds me similar comments by our own wicketkeeper (Kamran Akmal) when he drops a catch off Danish Kaneria and says … Koi Baat Nahee, Koi Baat Nahee … Phir Dey Ga

    Just imagine a wicketkeeper dropping a catch and then having enough guts to tell the same bowler “Koi Baat Nahee, Phir Dey Ga” … I wonder what poor Kaneria must be think. 😉

    Younis Khan not being selected is a big loss for Pakistan Cricket 😦 and I don’t want to curse this … Ejaz Butt, becuase I am fasting.

  165. #165 by Mohammed Munir on August 26, 2010 - 8:28 AM

    Kasim Sahab …

    I liked your comments on that moti-lady minister 😉

    Another point is that when you what to make an icon please give a space (break) after the last word and then make th icon sign otherwise it will not be visible.

    For example in your comment no. 160 above, you wrote …

    – must be insane:)

    – Assets:(

    So the icons 🙂 and 😦 were not visible. We have to give “space” after words ‘insane’ and ‘Assets’. 😉

    Mohammed Munir ‘icons expert’ 8)

  166. #166 by Mohammed Munir on August 26, 2010 - 8:32 AM

    Kasim Sahab …

    I liked your ‘comments’ on that moti-lady minister 😉

    Another point is that when you want to make an icon please give a space (break) after the last word and then make the icon sign otherwise it will not be visible.

    For example in your comment no. 160 above, you wrote …

    – must be insane:)

    – Assets:(

    So the icons 🙂 and 😦 were not visible. We have to give “space” after words ‘insane’ and ‘Assets’.

    Mohammed Munir ‘icons expert’ 8)

  167. #167 by Mohammed Munir on August 26, 2010 - 8:54 AM

    Where are Azeem Ghumman & Hammad Azam and why are they ignored for the selection again ❓

  168. #168 by Mohammed Munir on August 26, 2010 - 8:57 AM

    These are young, fit men and one or two have fielded like carthorses. You win a match by taking 20 wickets but because of their fielding they must take 34.

    Geoffrey Boycott is blunt in his assessment of Pakistan’s fielding.

  169. #169 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 26, 2010 - 11:38 AM

    Munir iconwala.

    Yes, it is Kamran Akmal’s tick to say: koi baat nai, koi baat nai

    In the T20 WC in England in which Pakistan won, they were playing against SA and AB C Devil-air was batting and Afridi was the bowler and then, Kamran dropped a dolly and Afridi was furious to hear that same, koi baat nai Shaid Bhai, koi baat nai…. the next ball Afridi clean bowled him, so his anger melted away, varna Kamran ki khair nahee thee. Especially if the batsman had scored heavily.


    In the same match JP Duminy’s short cameo gave Pakistan some jolts in the end but eventually the got over it and am I right in remembering a small row between the captain Younus Khan and Mohammed Aamer? That is when Aamer after bowling went half way down the pitch in his follow through and the fielder threw the ball at the bowler’s end, had Aamer came back to the stumps he could have gathered it and got JP Duminy run out because he was miles away from the crease. Then Younus Khan who is normally very cool got furious and was asking Aamer to stay behind the wicket instead of standing there in the middle of the pitch. During the altercation Aamer taunted at Yousuf by saying, what do you mean by that…. people consider me as the next Wasim Akram and you are saying this to me? Whatever Younus Khan said is not on record and neither Aamer’s comment but, some how this story came out and I think you (khansahab) mentioned about it here on LS. Could you please repeat that incident?


    Match delayed by rain but, how come England has announced their playing 11 whereas Pakistan is still holding the names of their playing 11? Probably Gul will not be included in the team because Wahab Riaz took 5 wickets and they don’t want to drop him and the pretext that would be used is, Gul is still nursing injury and we don’t want to take chances for ODI and T20 and blah, blah.

  170. #170 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 26, 2010 - 12:47 PM


    Shoaib Malik after being dropped from the ODI and T20 squad selected to play against England next month is desperately using ALL his contacts to get the decision reversed in his favour. Reportedly he has contacted all his uncles and aunties. Unfortunately none of them are able to do anything this time. The uncles have disappeared into oblivion due to the flood crisis i.e., bakaoz they haven’t done anything to help the poor and needy flood victims and if they come to the media and talk about Malik’s inclusion the media would blast at them by asking questions about the flood victims.

    The glimmer of hope was that Mujj Auntie who is the Minister of Nuss Bandee who went to his wedding as Malak’s Fairy GAD MADDER, but she too has lost her magic wand by blabbing against the two innocent boys butchered by the coward yet Jiyalay of Sialkotians and tried to portray them as criminals and defended the Jiyalas, she also cannot face the media now. Because she would be butchered too and the Milkman will be the first one to grab his choice of meat first. 😀 But, he will soon discover that it is toothless, I mean doodhless 😉

    Malik’s last resort is his ACEer Mirza, she can fire her aces at Wimbledon but not at Malik’s geeli pitch. Reportedly he is pushing her to go to La’hore and Islamabad and see if she can influence the Big Butt and make him Raazi. Mirza has declined this proposal by saying Big Butt is too ugly to be approached.

    After seeing Ijaz Butt’s stubborn behaviour following two phrases have been coined by the LS team to add a few new slangs:

    Hudd Harami is replaced by Butt Harami

    Hudd Dharmi is replaced by Butt Dharmi

  171. #171 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 26, 2010 - 12:51 PM

    As expected Nikki Butt has played the same 11 on the basis of “Old Kahawat,” not to disturb the winning combo. But, Butt should know that everyday is not a Sunday.

  172. #172 by khansahab on August 26, 2010 - 7:53 PM

    J’wade Khan

    Jee gull suno Aamar di. Wadda changaa baalar ay, changa batman vi ay, waddi tez baaling kerda ay.

    toh jera aamar ay, masfielding kerda si. teh younas aanda hai, kitta oye aamar! o ki kerda! Teh aamar wadda changa banda ay jee, kainda ay, younas paee meno dusso, assi mainu ‘seem akram nu compare karday ain, teh tussi mainu criticise karday ho? o younas paee, teri maa di, teh teri pen di……


  173. #173 by M. Y. Kasim on August 26, 2010 - 8:43 PM

    Tauba Allah, Tauba Allah.

  174. #174 by M. Y. Kasim on August 26, 2010 - 10:14 PM

    I would like to start a new thread on the possible Pakistan Team.

    Lets start with the bottom. We have a world-class bowling attack (I would not say the best.) Mohammad Asif, Mohammad Amir, Saeed Ajmal, Wahab Riaz and Umer Gul make any batting line- up collapse. All we need is another fast-medium bowler. The name of Mohammad Iefan, the almost 7 ft. tall lad comes to mind, and to complement Ajmal, the names of Raza Hassan (Slow left-arm) and Usman Qadir (a real Leg-spinner with googly and a decent late order batter and son of Abdul Qadir, one of the most successful spinner of Pakistan) makes the bowling line up complete in all weather.

    Lets go to top. Salman Butt has established himself as the best opener in the present lot. If we cant find a partner for him, push Azhar Ali, an original opener up the order. Javed Miandad has spoken highly of him and I trust Miandad 🙂

    Then we have the two Ys. Younus Khan and Mohammad Yousuf. that makes four……..
    Fawad Alam, Umer Amin, and three of the boys, I cant recall their names right now.

    Now, atleast two all-rounders. Again the first name that comes to mind is that of Hammad Azam. Could anybody help me with the last spot?

  175. #175 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 26, 2010 - 10:48 PM

    Mr. Kasim

    Iftar say pehlay dimagh hee kaam nai kerta, baad may soch ker bataingay apko 😀 Anyways about the current match, I did not see it bakaoz I was busy but one of my friends told me that Chota Akmal dropped a simple catch of Cook in slips. What a shame! Every now and then we read a new statement from these butterfingered A-holes that we should win and we should do this and we should do that…….. First Imran Farhat said in the previous match, then Salman Butt said the same, then Umar Amin said something similar and Chota Akmal said before Butt, so they are all culprits and yet they have the cheek to speak and ask about improving fielding standards.

    I don’t remember who said this but, someone from the players or coach or officials said: “When our boyz are practicing they never drop catches, but something happens to them during the match that they drop catches.” Remember Kamran Akmal’s 4 catches of Hussey, Saeed Ajmal dropped two catches in one of the shorter version games. Farhat the less you talk about him the better it is. Butt is not a good fielder either. Moulana tou Moulana hain. So who is a good fielder who doesn’t drop any catch? The only name that comes to my mind is FAWAD ALAM.

  176. #176 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 27, 2010 - 10:10 AM

    Thank God, Aamer took the wicket of Cook in his first 3 balls of the 2nd day. Finally it was Bara Akmal who took the catch while Chota Akmal dropped in third slip yesterday, so not much damage done, it is 39/2 wicket down on the same overnight total of 39/1. WOW, Aamer got Pietersen for a DUCK. they are 39/3 now.

    Mr. Kasim

    Your favourite Hammad Azam scored 63 not out in 54 balls with five fours and two sixes against Sri Lanka A which Pakistan won. The other players in the middle order are Shahriyar Ghani and Aamer Sajjad.

  177. #177 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 27, 2010 - 10:17 AM

    ANOTHER WICKET……….. Paul Collingwood this time on a DUCK……. Aamer is on the roll, he got two wickets in 3 balls. England yet to add a run to their overnight total of 39 and are four down 39/4 what a start for Pakistan and England are in a hole now. The umpire turned down bowler’s appeal but on review it was plumb and decision overturned.

    Aamer has bowled 15 balls today, 3 to complete is overnight over and two more today and no run given 3 wickets taken.

  178. #178 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 27, 2010 - 10:21 AM

    They should try to put more pressure on the batsmen earlier on because, once the morning session is over or even the first one hour is gone then the conditions will change and if a batsman sticks to the wicket during this time he is likely to settle down and take the tally to a respectability. And, Pakistan should not get complacent here. If Asif doesn’t get wicket from the other end and if the runs are leaking, then there must be a bowling change with immediate effect before letting the batsman settle down. I dunno whether Nikki Butt would think of this or he is in Nikki Euphoria at the moment?


    After I have completed writing the above paragraph, Asif started his fresh over and he bowled two lose deliveries and Trott managed to punch them down for 2 consecutive fours.

  179. #179 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 27, 2010 - 10:26 AM


    Aamer is destroying England, he got rid of EOIN MORGAN on a DUCK, on the first ball of his 4th over of the day. This time Yasim Hameed so far a better fielder in the team took a good catch to get rid ot Eoin Morgan the danger man. It is 47/5 now

  180. #180 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 27, 2010 - 10:33 AM

    ASIF continuing in the same manner and got whacked for another four by Trott. HELLO NIKKI BUTT………….. BOWLING CHANGE NEEDED, GET WAHAB RIAZ NOW BEFORE TROTT SETTLES.

    Strangely, all 13 runs scored so far came from Trott’s bat and all 13 runs given by Asif. And Aamer took 4 wickets for ZERO RUNS so far.

    This is amazing that it is just the 5th time in history that Nos. 4, 5 and 6 in an order have gone for ducks and GOOD LORDS for England, it is the first time it happened to them at LORDS.

  181. #181 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 27, 2010 - 10:49 AM

    HELLO NIKKI BUTT, WTF are you doing? Remove Asif from that end, bring Wahab Riaz as a change, Asif can bowl later and may be better but he is again being punished for fours and this time it is not Trott but Matt Prior. Don’t be complacent and don’t let them feel that they can score runs from one end. Keep the pressure you UKP.

    I don’t understand his field placement. In Aamer’s last over he removed the short fine leg and brought him to mid-wicket and twice in that over a possible catch went in the short fine leg area. And, now he has removed the third slip and moved him to mid-wicket, it shows he is setting defensive field instead of remaining aggressive. What a Ch2So4 he is, I bet if Imran Khan was there, he would have never gone defensive.

  182. #182 by Varun Suri on August 27, 2010 - 11:32 AM

    Somehow England has managed to hold upto the AmirStorm for now. Let’s see how much they can get in their first innings.

    On a differnt note, I came across this nice 4-Liner in one of the other blogs which I wanted to share it with all of you as coming from someone who has almost lost faith in all the religions of this World:-

    Kya Mandir Masjid, Kya Ibaadat
    Jo Allah bheje Ram ko Farmaan-e-Daawat,
    Muslim soche pakwaan kya banau,
    Hindu soche kya hai unki Danaat!!!

  183. #183 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 27, 2010 - 11:50 AM


    What is Danaat? I can see that your lack of faith in any religion must have gotten your attention from this 4 liner. 😀

    On cricket, it is happening exactly what I predicted i.e., defensive tactics will cost them a lot, and Nikki Butt has no clue about captaincy or field placement he is just a cog in the wheel and that too a faltoo wala…..

  184. #184 by VarunSuri on August 27, 2010 - 12:03 PM

    Honestly speaking I also don’t know, I was hoping you could clear it for me but maybe it was a mis print by the original author maybe he meant Dawaat instead of Danaat.

    I have faith in GOD but not in Religion.

  185. #185 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 27, 2010 - 12:03 PM

    3 fast bowlers and just ONE spinner in a test team is too much taxing for fast bowlers to carry on bowling for long spells. They get burned out and Pakistan has no 5th bowler, they are now trying Yasir Hameed, never heard him bowling, even if he has bowled on some occasion he may not have taken any wicket and the other option they have is asking that idiot Imran Farhat to bowl. Fawad Alam in the test team should have been ideal for opening the batting, great fielder and a decent left arm spinner who has taken quite a number of wickets for under-19 at international level.

    Now, Trott and Matt have settled down and the partnership is exactly 50 runs. Thanks to Nikki Butt for his defensive tactics.

  186. #186 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 27, 2010 - 12:14 PM

    Yeah, it could be Daawat. Still it doesn’t make much sense to me.

    Having faith in GOD and not in religion ………… well, you may not be practicing your religion as it is recommended but, there is some religion that you follow when you believe in GOD. I am not a practicing Muslim as I should be as per my religion and I admit that instead of deceiving myself by saying I am one. I simply can’t and that is because I am a sort of perfectionist in the sense that, if I do something I wanna put my heart in it and do it meticulously but, I cannot do that all the time. Religion demands you to be almost perfect and I believe that it is a Godly quality and for us as humans it is extremely difficult. It is not just about praying 5 times a day or fasting during the month of Ramadan or reading Quran and following it and also Hadith and Sunnah. It is also about not lying, backbiting, bickering, bitching, badmouthing and many other things. I try my best not to hurt people but, inadvertently we all do in one way or the other, I try not to do backbiting but, I do and seldom realize that I am doing it, and after doing I realize it but, again I do that jokingly or seriously but, it happens. If I start praying, I want to do it regularly and in a very orderly way but, then I cannot because, it is not possible. Perhaps I am not the only one there must be millions like me.

  187. #187 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 27, 2010 - 1:12 PM

    Mohammed Aamer is definitely the best bowler of this series and what a day he is having today after taking 6 wickets so far. Only Jonathan is Trotting at the crease rest of the team is back into the dressing room. Let us see what this TALL AND LANKY BROAD gonna do? Stretch legs or keep them closed? 😉

  188. #188 by M. Y. Kasim on August 27, 2010 - 4:04 PM

    I woke up at sehri time and was enjoying the the match :0 What and excellent bowler Mohammad Amir is.

    After Trot and Broad put up !00 Partnership, I went to bed but could not sleep and I did not want to take sleeping pill since I dont want to miss Jummatul Mubarak.

    You guys must be laughing your heads off that what an stupid guy I must be 😀

    A team without any Wicketkeeper??? I thought I had already written the names of Zulqarnain Haider and Mohammad Waqas, the under-19 keeper and my other favorit 🙂

    And yes, I rememver the names of those three boys. Aamer Sajjad, Asad Shafiq and Yaseen (something) from Multan.

  189. #189 by M. Y. Kasim on August 27, 2010 - 4:10 PM

    Another point. Ask any Gujrati and he will tell you that you must not put more than one PURI at a time in the Frypan 🙂 Cook only one at a time 😀

  190. #190 by M. Y. Kasim on August 27, 2010 - 8:56 PM

    I think Varun Suri must have mis-read Daanat…. could it be Diyanat ???

    The word Diyanat must be meaning Intention or opposit of Amaanat, I think I have heard it before in that context may be in Gujrati or Saskrit from where Gujrati language originate.

    Wallaho Alam Bis-sawab…… Allah Almighty Knows Best.

  191. #191 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 28, 2010 - 3:21 AM

    Diyanat Daari = Imaan Daari

    Amanat may Qayanat kerna means misappropriating funds from someone else money. And Amanat doesn’t mean only money it could be any precious thing. In fact anything which someone gives it to you for safekeeping that should be kept for him or her and if you misappropriate it, use it, consume it, sell it, then it is Amaanat may Qaiyanat kerna.

    That whole verse is beyond my comprehension because of one word. 😀

  192. #192 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 28, 2010 - 3:27 AM

    Mr. Kasim

    If you read my earlier comments which I have posted here during the first few overs of the day, I wrote that Salman Butt is getting complacent and defensive, he changed the field from aggressive to defensive. In one of the overs he removed the short fine leg and moved him to mid-wicket and the very first ball Prior played skied up and fell exactly where the fielder was in the short fine leg position. The fifth ball also went in the same region but then it was Trott. After that he brought back the fielder to short fine leg and expecting the same to happen. What a stupid he is, he has no clue about captaincy or field placement.

    He then removed the third slip when the fast bowlers were bowling, obviously by then Trott was settled and you can see what role he played along with that TALL BLOND BROAD.

    In case those who don’t know, for their information ” Broad ” is a slang for hookers and it was used a lot during the 60’s and 70’s. Still a lot of people know and use it, I am referring to the young ones like “khansahab” 🙂

  193. #193 by M. Y. Kasim on August 28, 2010 - 10:27 AM

    Javed A. Khan,

    I stand corrected. 😦 I did not consider your opinion that Wahab Riaz is an ordinary bowler. Now I see my folly. He is exactly what you described him. “An also Ran”.

    In my best Pakistan Team, he is replaced by either Sohail Khan or somebody equally fast 🙂

    I did not (gladly) watch the rest of the match because of Jummat-ul-Mubarak.

    All Pakistan can do now is to try to avoid getting beaten by an innings 😀

  194. #194 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 28, 2010 - 11:27 AM

    Mr. Kasim

    The score has past the 430 mark now and both batsmen are batting confidently and have scored big hundreds, in fact they are heading for double hundreds all previous records for that wicket partnership has been broken. Only last week after winning the 3rd match Pakistan and Pakistanis were boasting that they have the best bowling attack in the world. You can see now that the best bowlers are unable to take the wicket of Stuart Broad.

    When Yasir Hameed bowled the last over before lunch yesterday I wrote here that they are a bowler short. If people like Yasir Hameed and Imran Farhat have to bowl that means there is something wrong in the team selection. How can you play a team with just 4 specialized bowlers? 130 overs have been bowled so far and the score is 430/7 and the fast bowlers have already worn out, even with the new ball they couldn’t get any success. Saeed Ajmal who was touted as a better bowler than Danish Kaneria has faced the music for the first time in test cricket and he should now know the difference between bowling 4 – 10 overs in the shorter version of the game and unlimited number of overs in the tests.

    The English players when they were 102 for 7 were seen sitting with long faces in the balcony, biting their nails are now relaxed, happy and must be feeling proud of Broad who is 167 not out along with Trott who is 179 not out.

  195. #195 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 28, 2010 - 12:06 PM

    The test match is getting one sided now, unless Pakistan scores 400 which is not likely. It is more interesting to watch India / Sri Lanka Micromax Cup Final live on TV and Dilshan is on fire, he scored his first ODI hundred in Sri Lanka and his 8th over all.

    Indian bowlers are struggling and batting second means, the batsmen would also be struggling in any case it is better than this one sided test match.

  196. #196 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 28, 2010 - 1:57 PM

    Pakistan is playing really well after restricting England to 446 runs ONLY now they have made N I N E T E E N runs and three of their top order batsmen were in a hurry to catch the train to go home ……….. why don’t they tell Farhat to take that underground train that goes to Heathrow and he should be taking the PIA flight in the cargo section? I am sick of seeing Farhat’s batting and they made him play in every single match.

    With Sehwag getting run out on 28, I am not interested in watching this match anymore. It is not likely that India can win from here, if they do it would be a miracle so I leave them here hoping to shock me when I see the score card…….. Oh Gosh, Yuvraj just nicked the ball very clearly and it was straight in the gloves of Sangakara but, Asoka D Silva the umpire said NO. Earlier Karthik was given out when he was not out.

  197. #197 by M. Y. Kasim on August 28, 2010 - 2:09 PM

    to fromKhansahab,

    Last evening, I went to our local Masjid for Iftari (though I dont fast on Medical grounds) Our Masjid have three days’ Iftari programmes on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays.

    Believe me, the guy sitting opposite me, (our masjid have new and most modern chinese Tables and Chairs) happens to be a Punjabi (and according to Javed A. Khan) he was Pichhey se Patiala state se taalluk rakhta hai (with due apologgies to Munir Sahab) 😀 He introduced me as “my name is Khansahab” 🙂

    He asked me everything about me such as what is my name, where do I live and where do I come from originally, what do I do for a living, how many children/grand children do I have, etc. etc. except asking for my blood group (which I dont know) 🙂

    After Iftari and Salaa (Namaz- Maghrib)inside the Masjid, we again sat on our “own” chairs 🙂 ouside in the spacious ground and were waiting for the Dinner. Somehow or other, I was inspired to relate your story/joke about Punjabiis and Urdu Speakers. The jerk made me look stupid, since he did not react at all and seemms to miss the point 😀

    I have now decided not to quote you or trust you nomore 😦

  198. #198 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 2:18 PM

    Waqar ‘miffed’ over Malik’s omission from ODI squad for series against England

    Pakistan’s head coach Waqar Younis is reportedly upset over the selection panel’s decision to axe all rounder Shoaib Malik from the one-day squad which would take on England in the five match series starting September 10.

    Sources close to the team revealed that Waqar had an altercation with both ODI and T20 skipper Shahid Afridi, as well as chief selector Mohsin Khan over their decision to omit Malik and young middle order batsman Umar Amin from the squad.

    “Waqar felt that Pakistan needed Malik’s experience for the one-day series and he would get back into form soon. While he also believes that Amin is a great talent for the future and must be given confidence,” The Daily Times quoted sources, as saying.

    Earlier this week, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) announced a 16-man team for the upcoming series, retaining veteran middle order batsman Mohammed Yousuf in the squad.

    While controversial speedster Shoaib Akhtar succeeded in earning a recall, all rounder Malik, who was left out of the Test squad earlier because of his awful form, was axed.

  199. #199 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 2:20 PM

    Fawad Alam is a better batsman, bowler and fielder than Amin. Yet, why has no one tried to give him confidence the way Waqar wants to give Amin confidence?

    After a match winning knock in T20, a century on debut, and some good ODI knocks, why have these people tried to shatter Fawad’s confidence rather than supporting him like they have supported Amin?

  200. #200 by newguy on August 28, 2010 - 2:23 PM

    Yeah, really bad performance from Pakistan to let tail wag and create all sorts of world records, I don’t understand how teams can lose 7 for 102 and then the same bowlers cannot get another wicket before another 300 runs is scored. Something terribly wrong with batting in first place, or bowling is not doing it right, or field placements are off. I think it is the field placement. Butt is found wanting here, but he is not alone, most modern captains including Dhoni relax the field once 7 or 8 wickets are down allowing tail to score freely. Pakistan have no chance to win this test match now, draw also do not look possible. At this time with 3 down for next to nothing, and innings defeat looks very much on cards.

    I agree with Javed Khan that a lot of people were going gaga over the win after Oval. I was reading up blogs on CricInfo, where reputed Pakistani writers and a lot of bloggers were praising the team and Butt’s captaincy. This is the problem with sub-continental people, and especially I notice this trend among Pakistan supporters more than Indians that they praise their team is best in world they can beat anyone etc after one or two wins. Indian supporters have another issue which is record following and individual praising. Anyhow, the point is everyone forgot even in last test the win was a very nervous one and they somehow crawled over the line for last 16 runs. Confidence is good, but without looking at realities is not. Pakistan has ways to go, right now they got raw talent, but it need to be nurtured and channeled.

    India-SL tri-series final is heading to a one sided win for SL, just like the Asia cup final did for Ind. It is not possible to chanse 300 runs under lights even though Dhoni says batting is our strength and filled the team with 7 batsmen. Actually India would have done better with bowling friendly conditions, with PK, Nehra, and Munaf proving handful in swinging conditions. But Sri Lankans smartly changed the pitch for final and came up with a brand new batting wicket where their batters like Dilshan can go bonkers. I agree Ashoka De Silva’s umpiring is atrocious, not just this match even the previous one too. India cannot win even though the pitch is batting friendly, no one is in form.

  201. #201 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 2:31 PM

    The writer Nadeem Paracha has written a very informative article about Karachi in Dawn:

    It gives a fair account of the ethnicities that reside in Karachi.

  202. #202 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 2:37 PM

    Was Shahid Afridi right when he said that most of the players who play for Pakastan are not suited to Test cricket?

    Should Butt, Farhat, U Akmal, Hameed etc be removed from the team permanently?

  203. #203 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 2:48 PM

    Standing body chairman calls for “Suo-Moto” action against PCB chief

    KARACHI, (SANA): Describing the affairs of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) as extremely disappointing the Chairman of the Standing Committee on Sports in the National Assembly, Iqbal Muhammad Ali urged the Chief Justice of Pakistan to intervene.

    According to sources, Iqbal Muhammad Ali said that Ejaz Butt was running a ‘one-man-show which will further deteriorate the state of cricket affairs in the country.’

    He requested the Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry to take Suo-Moto action because, he said, “the PCB chairman has crossed all limits”.

    The Standing Committee chairman was of the view that the actions of the PCB chairman are not only damaging the state of the game but the image of the country as well.

  204. #204 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 3:16 PM

    Butt and Azhar ‘Lee out. End of their careers.

  205. #205 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 3:38 PM

    In his last 13 innings, Umar Akmal has averaged only 15.

    Surely the time has come to drop him?

  206. #206 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 4:22 PM


    Did you see Farhat’s dismissal?

    This is what you have in a country where regionalism and nepotism thrive.

  207. #207 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 5:04 PM

    Sohail doubts if Pak coaches know their job

    Karachi: Former Pakistan captain Aamir Sohail on Saturday questioned the credentials of the national team coaches and claimed that they don’t have much knowledge about the jobs they are doing.
    The outspoken former cricketer, who has also served as the chief selector, said he was appalled at the way Pakistan allowed England to take control of the fourth Test at Lords.

    “Where is the coaching and support staff? At times it seems they don’t know anything at all about their jobs. In fact, I don’t think they know about their job descriptions,” Sohail said.
    Pakistan allowed England to recover from a precarious 50 for five to 347 for seven at stumps on the second day with some clear tactical blunders being noticed on the field by the captain and other players.
    Sohail feels that in modern-day cricket, the role of the support staff, especially the coaches, was paramount and plays a big part in any team’s success or defeat.
    “I don’t know what is happening in the team. Where is the support staff? What were they doing when so many blunders were being made on the second day of the Test? Why didn’t they guide the captain and bowlers?
    “Wahab Riaz has a problem with his bowling-arm wrist that he does not hold it in one place and sprays the ball all over the place. It is the job of the coaches to have spoken to him after every session and guide him,” Sohail said.
    “But why has this problem not been sorted out as yet? What are the support staff doing? Saeed Ajmal kept on bowling round the wicket to Stuart Broad. Mohammad Asif was made to bowl from just one end. Who is responsible for this?” he asked.
    Sohail said that in Pakistan cricket, there was a habit for pre-mature celebrations and to create a star out of a young player prematurely.
    “Success has many fathers but defeat none. I have respect for Waqar Younis and Ijaz Ahmed as cricketers as I have played with them. But I have serious doubts about their coaching credentials,” Sohail said.
    Sohail pointed out that the coaching staff was supposed to be there for the players in trying circumstances.
    “The true role of the support staff and coaches comes in when the chips are down and unfortunately in this series, when the team has lost direction, the coaches have failed to guide them in the right direction,” he said.

  208. #208 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 5:06 PM

    Afridi to hold charity dinners in UK for flood victims

    Karachi, Aug 28 (PTI) Pakistan ODI captain Shahid Afridi will hold two charity dinners in England this weekend to raise funds for the millions of people displaced and left homeless by the devastating floods in his country.
    The flamboyant all-rounder said from London that he hoped to raise considerable amount of donation in cash and kind from the charity dinners and had the full support of the national team behind him.
    “Players in the team are well aware of the devastation caused by these floods and the fact that how much need there is for us cricketers to also contribute towards rehabilitation of these homeless people,” Afridi said.
    The all-rounder has already visited some flood-hit areas before leaving for England where he will captain the national team in two Twenty20 matches and five ODIs against the hosts next month.
    Afridi said he had received very good response from all sections of society in his appeal for donation in Pakistan and he personally distributed goods and cash to the flood victims.
    We distributed goods worth Rs 2 million in Nowshera,” he said.
    Afridi said that it was good to see the Pakistan cricket community also get on one platform to raise the funds for the flood victims.
    “If I get a chance to speak to players of other teams I will also request them to give us a helping hand because millions have been affected by the floods,” he said.
    Afridi referring to the series itself said he saw it as a golden opportunity to start finalising the nucleus of the team for the 2011 World Cup, to be held in the sub-continent.
    “After this ODI series in England we will know the shortlist of players who will eventually be in contention for the World Cup.
    “I think, it is time for us to try our new combinations because unless we do that we can”t move forward or hope to do well in the World Cup,” he said.
    Afridi also said though as captain the ODI series in England was a big challenge for him but it would also allow the selectors and team management to shortlist players for the World Cup.
    “We have some very good players of T20 and 50-over cricket and we need to finalise our World Cup squad in advance so that we can put up a good show in the mega event.”
    He feels those days were gone when Pakistan, India or Sri Lanka could say that they had advantage of playing in the sub-continental conditions.
    I think this World Cup will be a close one as now nearly every second team and players are used to the conditions in India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and even Pakistan. So it is a question of doing your best on a given day,” he said.

  209. #209 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 5:18 PM


    Na tera khuda koi aur hai

    Na mera khuda koi aur hai

    Yeh jo raastay hain judah judah

    Yeh muamla koi aur hai

  210. #210 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 28, 2010 - 6:01 PM

    Kasim Sahab

    The jerk may not have responded yesterday but, if you meet him today, he might be laughing his heads off because they understand good jokes in Urdu after 24 hours. This is exactly what somebody told me when I narrated a similar story that they guy did not laugh and screwed up my joke, that person said, “you are a very biased person, you think they don’t understand good jokes in Urdu? They do. BUT, the second day. 😀

  211. #211 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 28, 2010 - 9:01 PM

    The way Pakistan cricket team played, they should take a dive in Chulloo Bhurr Paani.

    Shame on them. The problem is with leadership. Salman Butt is a simpleton he should not have been made captain of the team. The selectors in Pakistan judge a person by the standard of his English. Salman is Andhaon may Kaana Raja and he speaks better than others so he has been made captain. That idiot has no say in team selection that is why he accepted Imran Farhat in place of Fawad Alam. He has no clue about field placement and bowling changes, he is on the field like a spectator.

    When Mohammed Aamer was bowling so well, he should have continued attacking instead he went defensive and that was THE END of the game. Now, Pakistan will lose another test match with a huge margin. Ijaz Butt should take a BunBaas and someone should send him to Andaman Island and Nicobar Islands for the rest of his life.

  212. #212 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 9:31 PM


    Match-fixer pockets £150k as he rigs England Test at Lord’s

    THE News of the World has smashed a multi-million pound cricket match-fixing ring which RIGGED the current Lord’s Test between England and Pakistan.

    In the most sensational sporting scandal ever, bowlers Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif delivered THREE blatant no-balls to order.

    Their London-based fixer Mazhar Majeed, who let us in on the betting scam for £150,000, crowed “this is no coincidence” before the bent duo made duff deliveries at PRECISELY the moments promised to our reporter.

  213. #213 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 9:38 PM

    It is reported Asaf and Aamar are involved along with Butt.

    What will happen to their careers?

    Akmal is also involved. The fixer claims that he has known these guys for 7 years and they have fixed matches before.

    If this is found to be true it will be amongst the darkest days for Pakastan cricket.

    Bad name to Pakastan.

  214. #214 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 10:04 PM


    It is reported large sums of money have been discovered from the rooms of the players involved in match fixing. However this report cannot be confirmed.

  215. #215 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 10:06 PM


    It is being considered by many that Afridi sensed this and being an honest player sought retirement from Test cricket.

    It is also thought honest players like Younis and Fawad are being kept out of the team so that they are not privy to this evil.

  216. #216 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 10:25 PM


    Police have arrested a Pakistani wearing a tracksuit from the team hotel.

    It is thought to be either Salman Butt or Mohammad Aamar.

  217. #217 by khansahab on August 28, 2010 - 10:30 PM

    Are Shoaib Malik, Umar Akmal, Imran Farhat and Rana Naved also involved in match fixing?

  218. #218 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 29, 2010 - 12:21 AM


    This is devastating news for cricket lovers in Pakistan, these MF bastards are so greedy that they can sell their mothers and sisters for money and they have already disgraced the nation by doing this, I shall be happy if they kick them out of the team and not only that, they should be tried and punished and by punishment I dont mean bans or a few thousand dollars fine but, they should be sentenced for 10-15 years and they should be banned any form of cricket for life.

  219. #219 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 29, 2010 - 12:31 AM

    REPORTEDLY, All three coaches, Waqar, Aaqib and Ijaz plus Yawar Saeed are also involved in taking cuts from betting and Yawar takes Ijaz Butt’s share too. Now, that the betting scandal is no more a scandal because it has been uncovered and even Scotland Yard is reportedly doing the investigations Waqar & Co. decided to resign by taking the pretext of poor team selection for the ODI and T20.

    The immediate action should be fire Ijaz Butt, Yawar Saeed, Waqar, Aaqib, Ijaz Ahmad and all those players involved in betting. And, then punish them according to the law.

    They should make a new team by including Hammad Azam, Mohammad Irfan, Azeem Ghumnan, Waqas the wicketkeeper and a few others and kick out both Akmals.

    Aamer if he is really involved in this betting has ruined his career:

    Sir uthaa tay hee ho gaye pamaal
    Sabza-e-nao damida ki maanind.

    This is Mir Taqi Mir

    Pamaal = finished

    Sabza-e-nao damida = fresh grass …………. in other words he is saying “just when I raised my head, I have been crushed like the new grass” when is when someone stepped on it.

  220. #220 by JAVED A. KHAN on August 29, 2010 - 4:50 AM

    We have a new thread on Pakistan’s brilliant achievement in betting and match fixing. Please write there. Thank you.

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