GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT?

The three accused- guilty until proven innocent?

Crooks all around the world are at times not convicted because of some loophole in the law or some technicality. This blog has not attempted to say with conviction that the three accused players are definitely guilty. However, the evidence against them is very cogent. People around the world are questioning about the law of England and Wales, and why under this law the trio of Asaf, Aamar and Butt cannot be convicted/charged/sentenced.

The problem is twofold. Firstly, News of the World (NOTW) is considered as a sensationalist tabloid and has been the subject of various defamation claims. The date, time and context the videos of Majeed boasting about match fixing and Wahab Riaz/Umar Amin accepting money from him, has shed doubt. One wonders whether this is because the NOTW cannot do any better, or is it because they considered their evidence to be so convincing that they did not focus on its presentation? NOTW has brought in these allegations but it does not have a clean reputation- this can be gauged by the successful defamation suits filed against it. This, however, is not to say that what they have projected is doctored, or untrue.

The second problem is one of technicality. The menace of spot fixing is a relatively new phenomenon. Whereas the law provides to some degree details andΒ penaltiesΒ of various cheating offences in sport, it does not categorically delineate the offence of spot fixing. Even if Scotland Yard considers the available evidence as convincing, what does it do with it? The Police has to charge someone according to the law of the land and if the law does not make a satisfactory provision for an offence, the police is ineffectual. I don’t think the main problem is the evidence, the problem is jurisdiction and technicalities.

Keeping these two hindrances into account, the matter must be directed to the ambit of the international governing body for cricket, the ICC, or the Pakistan Cricket Board. The “punishment” for these offences has to be disciplinary action. This materialises in either a ban, a fine or both. However, there are problems here, too.

The ICC cannot take as proactive a role in this pursuit of justice, as the PCB. In many ways, the ICC will be dependent on the PCB for information and direction. The ICC has an Anti Corruption Unit but it is not run by cricketers. Also, if the ACU’s job is to ensure that renowned bookies do not approach cricketers, what does it do in a situation where the team management or Board officials might be involved? The players come into contact with people from all walks of life- team officials, Board officials, the press, celebrities, the common folk. How far can the ACU go? How does the ACU prevent players from having links with bookies in India and Pakistan? In many ways this is a war the ACU may never be able to win.

Coming to the PCB, we have already seen the knee jerk statements of officials. Ijaz Butt very

Buffoon running a basket case

confidently told the BBC that the tainted trio will play all matches. However we are now told that the trio are under mental pressure and have been dropped. Ijaz Butt has been handpicked by the President of Pakistan who is a convicted criminal with a plethora of criminal and civil cases against him. Butt’s close relative is Choudhary Mukhtar, a high ranking PPP minister. This nepotism clearly points negatively towards Butt’s integrity. At the moment the following people are involved with PCB to some extent:

Justice Qayyum, a man whose famous Report was a landmark occasion in world cricket

Shafqat Rana, Ajaz Ahmed, Waqar Younas, Mushtaq Ahmed (England’s spin coach but regularly meets Pakistani players), Yawar Saeed. Accusations have been made against all of them. The names of Ijaz Ahmed, Waqar and Mushtaq were mentioned in the Qayyum Report which was the first judicial inquiry into sport in the world. It was considered at the time that the PCB was involved in corruption itself which is why an impartial Judge conducted the inquiry. The Report clearly mentioned that these accused players should not be given positions of responsibility as there are doubts over their integrity. Ijaz Ahmed is Salim Malik’s close relative. Shafqat Rana is reported to have accepted a bribe from Wahab Riaz. Whereas, Yawar Saeed has been amidst copious conspiracies that have befallen Pakistan cricket. So much so that his integrity is doubted by most fans.

Now, to the evidence. Majeed clearly names Butt, Asif and Aamer. He

Controversial: This is an unusually big overstep

indicates in which overs the no-balls would be delivered. Aamer’s no ball was a huge, uncommon overstep. Aamer is renowned for bowling few no-balls. Yet, this huge overstep provides support to the argument that it was a deliberate effort. A picture has been captured of this and Salman Butt appears to be looking at Aamer. Why is Butt not looking at the batsman? Aamer has actually released the ball but, Butt seems to be looking at him, and not towards the batsman.
In the video evidence, Majeed also mentions in some detail the Sydney Test match. The NOTW, if they had doctored the video or were trying to frame the Pakistani players, they could have done this during the Australia series. Why wait until the England series? And if there is some foul play on part of NOTW, why would Mazhar mention the Australia series now, so many months down the line? Surely they must have caught Majeed in the act?

Innocent, well spoken boy from upper middle class Lahore family, or a betting ringleader?

Salman Butt has been described as the ring leader in all of this. Butt’s reaction in the press conference the day after these revelations was very dubious. Not once did he remark, “I am innocent, I don’t know what the hell is going on” or something to that effect. He just said, “This is an allegation”. Innocent people normally do not behave like that.

NOTW then revealed another video of Wahab Riaz and Umar Amin.

Shocking evidence of players' links with the fixer Majeed

There is absolutely no doubt these two players were talking about money with Mazhar.

Next, money in significant amounts was found from players’ rooms. Later, reports emerged that some money may have been of doubtful denominations(fake). So, it is not suspicious for players to be carrying fake notes with them in such quantities? What happened to all this money?

Kamran Akmal’s name was initially mentioned. It must be noted that Zulqernain was sent back to Pakistan under suspicious circumstances. Akmal’s videos relating to his keeping in Australia have been revealed. In the light of Mazhar’s revelations about the Sydney Test, should Akmal not have been questioned?

Veena Malak has a lot to say about ex boyfriend Asaf

Veena Malik has revealed that Asif fixes matches and has links with an Indian bookie. She has also hinted that Asif introduced Aamer to match and spot fixing. A lot of people ridicule Veena for her stupid statements, but the ICC’s ACU has taken notice of her and taken a statement. It will be interesting to see what implications this has for Asif’s career.

Even though these players are likely to be let off the hook due to NOTW’s sensationalist approach and technicalities of law, there is sufficient evidence for the ICC and PCB to take stringent action against them. Butt, Asif, Aamer and Akmal must be suspended from playing international cricket until an impartial inquiry is conducted and results are produced. PCB should be fined for not implementing the Qayyum Report in its letter and spirit. Further, all the suspicious characters mentioned in this Report must be sacked.

This blog does not want to promote the idea that these players are necessary guilty, but the idea that the evidence warrants strict, unsympathetic action. The approach ICC and PCB should take, therefore, is that there should be a presumption of guilt until it is found that all avenues have been explored and that there is insufficient evidence. Adopting any other approach will only let this negativity of corruption further plague Pakistan cricket. A new team must be made immediately with Shahid Afridi as captain for all formats, and Younis Khan, Mohammad Yousuf and Fawad Alam in senior positions.

Honest players who are also good performers

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  1. #1 by khansahab on September 2, 2010 - 8:07 PM

    Please see new thread.

  2. #2 by M. Y. Kasim on September 2, 2010 - 8:14 PM

    Aray Munir Bhai, 😦

    Kiyan chho? Tame Gujrati haso aiy to mane nathi khabar, hoon to tamne Punjabi samajhto hato, bhale koi vaat nay.:)

    Koi nava-juoona samachar? Chaalo, pachhi malsoo, Allah Hafiz. πŸ˜€

  3. #3 by khansahab on September 2, 2010 - 8:16 PM

    Javed A Khan

    This news about Salman Butt’s father which we have heard from a blogger, have you heard this somewhere else?

  4. #4 by M. Y. Kasim on September 2, 2010 - 8:17 PM

    Oiee Salaa Bangali, 😦

    Aamee Bangla kotha bujte pari kintoo bolte pari naa πŸ™‚

    Tumi chup. O.K. πŸ˜€

  5. #5 by khansahab on September 2, 2010 - 8:19 PM

    Scotland Yard believes that video tape is authentic

    Police investigating alleged corruption involving Pakistani cricketers believe that video evidence crucial to the case is authentic, BBC Sport understands.

    Pakistan’s High Commissioner Wajid Shamsul Hasan claims News of the World video allegedly exposing the scandal may have been made after the incident.

    Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir are currently being investigated by the police for alleged spot-fixing.

    But police and cricket’s governing body are treating the evidence as genuine.

    The BBC also understands that the questions being posed by Hasan over the nature of the video evidence, after the Pakistan high commissioner had emerged from a Pakistan Cricket Board inquiry on Thursday, will not form part of the three cricketers’ defence.

    In response to Hasan’s latest comments, the News of the World said it “refuses to respond to such ludicrous allegations”.

  6. #6 by khansahab on September 2, 2010 - 8:21 PM

    Omer

    Here you go, ICC has charged the players. I knew they would find some way of doing it in the light of the Police’s apparent lack of powers to directly charge the players under an offence.

    ICC charges three Pakistan players under Anti-Corruption Code

    The International Cricket Council has charged three Pakistan players with various offences under Article 2 of the ICC Anti-Corruption Code for Players and Player Support Personnel relating to alleged irregular behavior during, and in relation to, the fourth Test between England and Pakistan at Lord’s last month.

    The three players, Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir, have been officially notified of the offences they are alleged to have committed and have been provisionally suspended pending a decision on those charges. In accordance with the provisions of the code, this means they are immediately barred from participating in all cricket and related activities until the case has been concluded.

    The players have a right to contest this provisional suspension and a further opportunity to defend these charges at a full hearing before an independent Anti-Corruption Tribunal in accordance with Article 5 of the code. The players have 14 days from their receipt of the charge sheet to indicate their desire for a hearing.

    Any player ultimately found to be guilty of committing an offence under the code would be subject to the sanctions described in Article 6 of the code. In this case, the alleged offences, if proved, would involve the imposition of a ban. There is also a possibility, at the discretion of the independent tribunal, that a fine would be imposed in addition to a ban.
    ICC Chief Executive Haroon Lorgat said: β€œWe will not tolerate corruption in cricket – simple as that. We must be decisive with such matters and if proven, these offences carry serious penalties up to a life ban. The ICC will do everything possible to keep such conduct out of the game and we will stop at nothing to protect the sport’s integrity. While we believe the problem is not widespread, we must always be vigilant.

    β€˜It is important, however, that we do not pre-judge the guilt of these three players. That is for the independent tribunal alone to decide.’

  7. #7 by khansahab on September 2, 2010 - 8:23 PM

    BREAKING NEWS

    Today Afridi was asked about these players and their offences, he said,

    “If you have done wrong you should be punished”.

    It is reported Afridi was unsympathetic to the players and sounded like he did not want them in the team.

  8. #8 by khansahab on September 2, 2010 - 8:24 PM

    Please see Majeed with Salman Butt and Akmal:

  9. #9 by khansahab on September 2, 2010 - 8:39 PM

    I will get married: Sushmita

    But the actress says she definitely has plans to tie the knot one day.”Well, I will get married. It was just that I didn’t feel like getting married at 23-24 which is considered to be marriageable age,” said Sushmita, 34. “And I am tired of answering what kind of a man I want in my life. I will show you the full sample whenever it happens,” she added.

    In the past, the actress has dated actor Randeep Hooda, ad man Manav Menon and then she has been linked with Bunty Sachdev and very recently with Pakistani pacer Wasim Akram, with whom she has supposedly broken off with.

  10. #10 by khansahab on September 2, 2010 - 8:48 PM

    This High Commissioner just got a slap on his face, the MF is a lying pig, BC sala.

  11. #11 by khansahab on September 2, 2010 - 9:04 PM

    Javed A Khan

    The pic is of Asaf, due to current controversy. Why would I use Dalshan’s pic? After all Waqar said,

    “This man Dalshan, he is not a good bowler and not a good batman. Butta the only reason he is A KEEP in the team is because of his fielding”.

  12. #12 by M. Y. Kasim on September 2, 2010 - 10:16 PM

    Why you people have ganged up against these poor youngmen? 😦

    Dont you know that during recent floods, a great match-fixing ocuured between ex-Prime Minister, Mir Zafrullah Khan Jamali and the Honourable Federal Minister, Ejaz Jakhrani (is there something in the name of Ejaz?) πŸ˜€

    Jakhrani went to the spot and breached a whole lot of the Protective Dam. It was alleged that Jakhrani tried to save his land and houses and property in Jaobabad.; (

    Mir Sahab was in Dera Jamali. He usually lives in Quetta or Islamabad πŸ™‚ what was he doing in Dera Jamali? πŸ˜€ Due to breach or intentionally broken Dam, whole lots of water submerged Dera Jamali, Nasirabad, Jaffrabad and a lot more places in Balochistan and uprooted without any warning, sign or anticipation hundreds of thousands of people because they were proected by the said Dam 😦

    Now the real Test Match started. Mir Jamali accused Jakhrani of saving Sindh and destroying Balochistan, while Jakhrani said he was not doing anything wrong but tried to save Jacobabad.

    Nobody mentioned the taboo word or name πŸ˜€ Over there, we the American people built a huge Airbase called “Shahbad” airbase. πŸ™‚ It is one the most modern and state of the art Airbase in the world. We spent Billions of Dollars to built it and are paying Millions of Dollars annually as Rent or Royallty and to save you ungrateful Pakistanis from the Afghans πŸ˜€

    It was this Base that Jakhrani was trying to save under the Order of our Governmentor the Defense Dept. πŸ™‚

    Jakhrani does not have such powers, he would not care about his Land, Houses or Properties, Allah (SWT) will give ten times more if he renains a Federal Minister πŸ˜€

    The break or breach was conducted and overseen by an active Brigadier of the Pak Army πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

  13. #13 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 2, 2010 - 10:49 PM

    Omer

    The whole of the cricketing world is mourning Aamer’s career demise, we at LS have devoted a whole thread in his name. I really feel sorry for him but, again if he has done it, he needs to be punished.

    While looking at the 4 pictures khansahab has posted through that link, it is very appalling to see Salman Butt’s snare and a smirk in the other photo, can’t believe this is the same Salman Butt who was thrown into the deep sea by Bob Woolmer at the Rose Bowl in the UK and he was out on a duck but, then he scored a few centuries against India and Australia, he used to mutter some duas under his lips and used to prostate on the ground after scoring a hundred and now look at the change in his body language. He looks so corrupt and confident while talking to the bookie. Interestingly Chota Akmal is an onlooker standing besides him and he is seen giggling as if Salman Butt has said something amusing.

  14. #14 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 2, 2010 - 10:51 PM

    Mr. Kasim

    There is one more name that you have forgotten or, perhaps you are not aware of him doing the same thing, and he is Mir Hazar Khan Bajrani the Federal Minister of Education reportedly he too has broken the dam to divert the flood waters damaging his land and corps. Salay sab Harami hain and then they come out clean.

  15. #15 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 2, 2010 - 10:55 PM

    khansahab

    good timely thread and nice photographs ewwww Venaa day……. I mean Malak noo waykhoo and not what Munir thinks πŸ˜‰ Its iftar time or Mian Sahabs Badaam Doodh time πŸ˜‰ Badaam mian saab da tay Doodh………….. πŸ˜€ so laters.

  16. #16 by M. Y. Kasim on September 2, 2010 - 11:06 PM

    Before F.B.I. or any other Agency comes knoching on my door asking me how I know all this? 😦

    Let me make it clear that the whole story was telecast by several TV channels with live footage. πŸ˜€

  17. #17 by M. Y. Kasim on September 2, 2010 - 11:24 PM

    To His Eminence Lord Ejaz Butt, J.M.K., G.P.B.K., M.K.K., P.S.G..:(

    J= joota, M= mar, K- kar., G= gadhe, P= pe, B= bitha, K= kar., M= moo K= kala K= karke., P= poora, S= sheher, G= ghoomao. πŸ˜€

    I challrnge all to de-cipher this Honorary Titles. πŸ™‚

    Like JAK said Iftar time is approching ……….

  18. #18 by M. Y. Kasim on September 2, 2010 - 11:36 PM

    His Eminence Lord Ejaz Butt. J.M.K., G.P.B.K., M.K.K., P.S.G.

    J= joota, M= mar, K= ke., G= gadhe, P= pe, B= bitha, K= kar., M= moo, K= kala, k= karke., P= poora, S=Sheher, G= ghoomao. πŸ˜€

    I challanged all to de-cipher these Honorary Titles. πŸ™‚

  19. #19 by M. Y. Kasim on September 2, 2010 - 11:49 PM

    His Eminence Lord Ejaz Butt., J.M.K., M.K.K., G.P.B.K., P.S.M.G. πŸ˜€

    J= Joota, M= Maar, K= ke., M= moo, K= kala, K= karke., G= gadhe, P= per B= bitha K= karke., P= poora, S= Sheher, M= main, G= ghoomao πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

    I challeng all to de-cipher abobe Honorary Titles. πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

    Like JAK said, it is Iftaar time……. πŸ˜€

  20. #20 by M. Y. Kasim on September 2, 2010 - 11:53 PM

    I wrote a very funny Blogg and sumitted for comment. πŸ™‚

    Three times it disappered 😦 I dont know what was wrong?

    Anywa, like JAK said, itis Iftaar time now…….:)

  21. #21 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 3, 2010 - 3:37 AM

    Kasim Sahab

    Don’t worry be happy, no one will come to your door, knowing your age and your medical condition they know you are not a threat to anyone, may Gold bless you and help you fighting your cancer. Ameen.

  22. #22 by khansahab on September 3, 2010 - 5:57 AM

    Kasim sahab

    Your comment went into our spam folder, but I have retrieved it.

  23. #23 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 3, 2010 - 9:01 AM

    LOL @ Mr. Kasim’s abbreviations. You must have thought a lot before honouring him with such deserving titles and degrees to his name.

  24. #24 by M. Y. Kasim on September 3, 2010 - 1:03 PM

    WHERE ON EARTH DID MY BLOGG WHICH TOOK ME TWO HOURS TO WRITE HAS GONE?

  25. #25 by khansahab on September 3, 2010 - 4:30 PM

    Pakistan announce replacements

    Pakistan named Mohammad Irfan and Asad Shafiq as two replacements for the upcoming ODI series in England.
    The duo will fly to London to join the Shahid Afridi’s team, who are playing warm up matches amidst serious controversies erupted after the The News of the World expose on spot-fixing.
    β€œBoth, Irfan and Shafiq are playing for Pakistan A against Sri Lanka and have asked to join the national squad in UK till next week,” PCB statement read.
    Earlier, Pakistan overcame setbacks to beat Somerset by eight runs in limited-overs warm-up match at Taunton.
    Quite apart from the drama played out 160 miles away in London – where Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Aamer professed their innocence over the spot-fixing allegations – the tourists could hardly afford two more injuries in what has become a threadbare squad.

  26. #26 by khansahab on September 3, 2010 - 4:33 PM

    ICC rejects Pakistan’s conspiracy theory

    LONDON: The ICC on Friday rejected Pakistan’s conspiracy theory behind the suspension of three of its players in connection with the ‘spot-fixing’ scandal and said clear indications were given about the impending action.

    It also said the three cricketers have a “case to answer” but refused to specify the charges against them.

    Addressing a press conference, ICC CEO Haroon Lorgat dismissed a question that the action was taken to keep Pakistan out of international cricket.

    “The very reason I met your High Commissioner Wajid Hasan was to give a clear indication that we are coming to a conclusion and that we will be serving a notice. I differ with Pakistan High Commission interpretation of the meet. I indicated to him about issuing the notice,” he said.

    Earlier in the day, Hasan attacked the ICC saying it had taken an unethical decision and sought to insinuate that ICC President Sharad Pawar had a hand in it.

  27. #27 by newguy on September 3, 2010 - 4:42 PM

    It is very evident and clear as day light to all independent observers that PCB is complicit in this matter. The symbolical way in which they handled is not just incompetence, which they are, but there is more to it is clear. It is a shame that ICC had to intervene and take actions since PCB is not going to trying everything to cover this up. PCB ever since the day Ijaz Butt took over has always been like this, going aggressive against ICC in all matters and then blaming everyone else with conspiracy theories. It has not done them any good so far, and it won’t do any good this time too. But then they are not concerned about well being of Pakistan cricket, just to make their pockets full.

  28. #28 by M. Y. Kasim on September 3, 2010 - 5:06 PM

    Here is the gist of what I wrote which dis-appeared in THIN AIR 😦

    An open letter to Varun Suri, Newguy and other Indian bloggers and a Billion plus Indians all around the Globe.

    I confess and admit that I am an Anti-India guy πŸ˜€

    It started when at the age 9 or 10 years old I joined The All India Muslim Youth League (ever heard of it?) when the President of Youth League, Mr. Yousuf Abdullah Haroon came over to our Town, Jetpur, Kathiawar, Gujrat on his tour of Kathiawar to enlist yongsters to join the said League and to collect donations to All India Muslim League on behalf of Quaid-e-Azam, Mohammed Ali Jinnah.

    Here in Houston, there is a Road called Synott where the whole road has different kind of Churches, Temples, Mandir and a Masjid (Mosque). Ironically the Mandir and the Masjid share a common Wall seperating them πŸ™‚ Who built it, I dont know, may be they built togethet and divided the cost πŸ˜€

    The funny part is; on Jummat-ul-Mubarik (meaning Fridays) our Masjid is over crowded with cars and nowhere to park them. The Islamic Society of Greater Houston (ISGH) and the mandir management arrived at an understanding whereby the gates of the Mandir are opened and the Muslims who comes late πŸ˜€ are allowed to park their cars. πŸ™‚

    Similarly, when Hindus have their Diwali (phir aa gai Sajni) and Holy (ke sang khelo) and other Festivals, the Masjid gates are opened to accomodate the Hindus.

    If we can live together and co-exist with each other here in USA, why cant we who share a common Boundary live in peace and coexist??? 😦

    And recent offer and acceptance of aid by India to the Flood Relief Fund and most importantly the gesture by India not to divert un-precedent Rainfalls and Melting of Glaciers toward Pakistani Rivers and absorb the itself the pitfall has changed my mindset.

    I am no great leader nor wield any power but still appeal to all Pakistanis and Indian to see the ground reality and instead of wasting our resources and money on latest and disastrtours Weapons to fight each other and divert that money and energy toward betternment of our poor and hungay masses. πŸ™‚

  29. #29 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 3, 2010 - 5:34 PM

    newguy

    For the last decade or so Pakistan cricket team has been hitting headlines for one conspiracy or the other and all the time it is a bad name for the country. And, you are right that since Ijaz Butt took over the PCB there has been a further downward trend and he has been aggressive and vocal and arrogant against the ICC, the media and the players too (Younus Khan’s case is an example).

    It is interesting to read Haroon Logart’s interview on cricinfo in which he explained the need to charge these three players. He said, ” They [the players] needed the opportunity to clear themselves, so we were throughout the course of the week trying to impress upon them to do the right thing and not involve them in the remainder of the tour, for their own sake. And then on Wednesday night, Mr [Ijaz] Butt was quoted as saying that they were available to play. We realised that if that was indeed the case, we needed to move quicker. We worked quite hard to complete what we needed to do. We were surprised the next morning when they announced the non-selection, but by then we had progressed to a point completing our work. “

    The problem with Ijaz Butt is he is not only uneducated, uncouth, uncivilized bastard but he won’t understand decent language, he goes to the meetings with a predetermined notion and not listen to anyone and comes back with his own views and blabs them. What one needs to do is, instead of telling him in decent language, SLAP HIM ON HIS FACE and wake him up first and then say just a few words and not a big explanation. Like, in this case they should have said, “drop these players or we will charge them.” Instead they tried to be modest, sophisticated and diplomatic with him. That is a total waste of time dealing with him. He is either not listening or, he is found sleeping in the meetings.

  30. #30 by JOKER on September 3, 2010 - 5:48 PM

    I am watching TV and reading news about this latest scandal and I am also observing the way the ex Pakistani players, officials, diplomats and politicians are changing their statements. Sala jitna Punzabi log hoy sob players ka side may bolta hoi aur bolta hai I hope they come out clean. abi latest may Zahir Abass bolta hai, “I still hope that our players could come out clean.” β€”Sala kidar say clean hoga? Sota Butt say lay kay Bara Butt tak sab shit ka ander may hoi. Salman Butt ka sakal say sala chor dikta uska bhain ka saadi kay liya pochas hozar pound chahiye? BC , sala jhoota. I know criminal case bhot muskil hai due to lack of evidence lakin sala civil case hona mangta aur sob ko ban karna mangta, sala hamara dost log be humko gali nikalta aur bolta tumara Pakistan ka team apna ma ka – uss may chala gaya. Hom Pakistan ko paila support deta is liya bolta, BC ab hom be Jalil ho gaya kutta ka jaisa.

  31. #31 by Varun Suri on September 3, 2010 - 10:43 PM

    Dear M.Y. Kasim Sir,

    I appreciate the way you have shared a bit of your history. From my personal experiences out of India I can tell you that there are very few places in the World where you would find all Religious Places on the same road. Especially here in the Europe where there is no scarcity of Mosques due to the various Arab and Non-Arab Muslims but one would struggle to find a Temple and even there are a few it’s not possible to visit them every day hence that is the reason why i mentioned in the last post that Hinduism is a very disorganised Religion with no one Central authority or head giving out instructions, in a way it is good and in a way it is bad also as people like me gradually and gradually drift away from our religion due to lack of such facilities out of India. One can argue that you don’t need a Mosque or a Temple to pray or believe in God but maybe that’s just me that I can only feel a bit religious depending on my surrounding.

    As far as India is concerned, I would like to tell you that my wife is a Catholic from the Indian part of Kathiawar in Gujarat so I have also been to that region in the past 2 years. My mother comes from a Muslim dominated area of U.P so I know quite a bit about Hindu-Muslim tensions in India and I can say one thing that most of the common people have absolutely no problems co-existing together it is only when the politicians stir up a chaos in the name of Religion that people get emotional and do stupid things. You would be surprised to know that the main temple of Lord Krishna in Mathura also shares the boundary with a Mosque but we won’t get to hear anything about such places in the Media as long as something like Babri Masjid does’nt happen to it.

    My point is that naturally in a population of 1.2 billion if you have 81 % Hindus and 13% Muslims there is bound to have a conflict every now and then and the only thing we can do about it is to preach and practise peaceful co-existence between all the Religious Groups.

    When I had left India in 2003 I was also quite Anti-Pakistani but when I lived, ate and played Cricket with Pakistanis in UK then something changed within me and now I can say I am a bit more neutral in my views and analysis. This is the biggest thing I learnt outside of India along with the meaning of the word RACISM.

  32. #32 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 4, 2010 - 3:55 AM

    Varun;

    You are a bit harsh in commenting that Hinduism is a very disorganized religion and there are not enough temples as opposed to mosques. As far as I know there are enough temples here in North America and some of them are very monumental. Check out the picture using this link and see how this Mandir is:

    Reportedly this Mandir has no nails, it is one of the architectural wonders, I have heard about boats and yachts with no nails but not a building. They have a huge, huge parking lot attached to the Mandir and the fencing is almost 20 feet high so it is absolutely safe for a car park. Here is another view of the same Mandir which is built for $40 million.

    http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/local/article/15173–40m-hindu-temple-opens-in-toronto

  33. #33 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 4, 2010 - 3:55 AM

    Varun;

    You are a bit harsh in commenting that Hinduism is a very disorganized religion and there are not enough temples as opposed to mosques. As far as I know there are enough temples here in North America and some of them are very monumental. Check out the picture using this link and see how this Mandir is:

    Reportedly this Mandir has no nails, it is one of the architectural wonders, I have heard about boats and yachts with no nails but not a building. They have a huge, huge parking lot attached to the Mandir and the fencing is almost 20 feet high so it is absolutely safe for a car park. Here is another view of the same Mandir which is built for $40 million.

    http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/local/article/15173–40m-hindu-temple-opens-in-toronto

  34. #34 by newguy on September 4, 2010 - 4:42 AM

    Kasim Sahab,

    I am all for peaceful relations with neighbors and it is my wish that India-Pakistan relation should be mutually beneficial. But, due to the partition history and the strong political bias towards each other it is very hard to achieve, even though general public of both nations have a much more tolerant view of each other than political and military brass. Eventually I think this will change as time goes by and the economical and geopolitical nature in the region shifts.

    I do understand people from your generation of course may have found it hard to accept friendly relation with India initially, because of the partition and the early animosity, wars, so on .. I read Pervez Musharaf’s biography and learned some of the psyche from how he explained his view towards India. In his case especially since he was an Army man all along, he viewed it as the enemy. But, I also learned some of the joy and hope people had of having got their own country from it. Anyhow, I think some where along the line Pakistan got it wrong, and one of the Pakistani co-workers told me that it is because of the feudal system in Pakistan which do not exist in India. May be so..

    AIML (All India Muslim League) is still a political party in India I believe, and there is a youth wing as well I think called AIYML. I haven’t kept touch in many years, but when I lived in India they used to contest elections in certain states and win MP seats.

    Javed Khan,

    I think the BAPS temple you are talking about is more of a modern temples, and when Varun is talks about temples they are the traditional kind. There are these modern temples even in India now that is run on money and organization power, but they lack the authenticity and tradition of age old temples. Most Hindus when they speak of temples really consider the age old temples are authentic and having more powers than the new age ones. It is one of those things with Hinduism that cannot be explained easily. I for one have hardly visited one of these rich modern temples, I prefer to visit the age old temples with their aura and tradition. I think for many Hindus temples are about the total experience and not just about worship, in my case it is mostly the environment / experience than worship.

  35. #35 by Varun Suri on September 4, 2010 - 8:05 AM

    Javed,

    The links you have sent highlight my central point that of course they will have such temples in North Americas in the UK and also places in Europe but how many people can go there everyday to pray? It is more a Tourist Attraction for people who are not close to such Religious Places. I would rather prefer small-small Temples in more Cities than such Big structures.

    I do not remember even one city in Holland or in the UK where I have not seen a Mosque!! I don’t think that the Hindus will ever possess that kind of Unity or something like a Collective Action Plan( such as the local Mosque in your area) to do something like the Muslims in this respect. They can have an odd one here and there and make it a huge one but it does not fully serve the purpose for which it should be made in the first place. It becomes more of a Tourist Attraction rather than a Religious Worship Place.

  36. #36 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 4, 2010 - 12:34 PM

    Varun & newguy;

    One of the reasons you see more mosques is because of the fact that in Islam you have to pray 5 times a day and Friday congregation prayers are important, the very purpose of it is to socialize and mingle with people. Muslims in North America and Europe cling to their religion more than they do in India and Pakistan. Whereas, the Christians and Hindus here don’t. There are Churches here which are bare and empty throughout the year, only sometimes we see here a gathering in front of a Church is, when someone has died. Even marriages don’t take place in the Churches as often as they used to be. It is fashionable to get married in hotels, golf courses etc. Being close to one’s religion is fine because all religions in the world not only talk or propagate about peace but, they emphasize the need of it. It is a certain segment of people or bunch of individuals who deviate and spoil the name of religions. Anyways, its a long debate lets not get into it. I am not a very religious person but, that doesn’t mean I am against religion. I would still say that it is good to have faith and practice a religion without bothering others. Its a way of life, it teaches us to control our ‘self’ which we call it ‘nafs’ and if we are able to do that, we are definitely better people and I am not talking just about Islam, even in Buddhism they emphasize the need of controlling your “self”.

  37. #37 by khansahab on September 4, 2010 - 2:29 PM

    Tainted Pakistan trio questioned over ‘calls, SMSes, secret accounts’

    The three Pakistani cricketers implicated in the ‘spot-fixing’ scandal were questioned about the calls and text messages they exchanged with alleged bookie Mazhar Majeed and their “secret accounts” by the Scotland Yard in London.

    The three players at the center of the row — Test captain Salman Butt and pacers Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Aamir — were released without a charge by the Scotland Yard after questioning on Friday.

    According to a report in ‘the Daily Telegraph’, the trio was “questioned by detectives over text messages, phone calls and secret bank accounts linked to alleged match-fixing.”

    Aamir spent almost five hours being quizzed by the police and he was reportedly asked about a “message he allegedly sent to Majeed.”

    “Shall I do it or not?” was the text message that Aamir allegedly sent Majeed a night before sending down a deliberate no-ball in the Lord’s Test against England last week.

    They were asked about secret accounts in Swiss and British banks, which, according to the News of the World investigation, Mr Majeed said he had set up in their names,” the newspaper reported.

    The newspaper said Butt, in whose room cash linked to the betting scam was reportedly found, is being suspected the most.

    “It has been reported that 50,000 pounds was found in his room by police but he said the money, some in foreign currency, was to pay a dowry for his sister.”

    ICC’s Anti-Corruption and Security Unit chief Sir Ronnie Flanagan has already stated that the evidence at hand has made it clear that the players in question “have a really arguable case to answer in our disciplinary arena.”

  38. #38 by khansahab on September 4, 2010 - 2:42 PM

    Joker

    I am amazed at Salman Butt- I never thought he was a crook.

    Varun/Kasim sahab/Newguy

    Something very important needs to happen before India and Pakistan can embark on this road to peace.

    Pakistan needs good leadership- they need leaders who are educated, sophisticated and patriotic. By patriotic I don’t mean hatred for India, I mean they need to realise they are serving the people, and that the people are not serving them. One the corrupt leaders are removed and sincere leaders replace them, then the two countries can focus on peace.

  39. #39 by khansahab on September 4, 2010 - 2:43 PM

    Mohammad Asaf’s father (he speaks thaite Punjabi):

  40. #40 by khansahab on September 4, 2010 - 2:50 PM

    Pakistan team manager Yawar Saeed, 75, was taken to hospital with a minor facial injury on Friday after stumbling as he got off the team’s coach in Cardiff.

  41. #41 by khansahab on September 4, 2010 - 2:52 PM

    Tainted trio admit Majeed paid money, says PCB

    ISLAMABAD: The three Pakistani cricketers, accused of an alleged betting scam, have reportedly admitted before police that they received money from the bookie Mazhar Majeed but denied any knowledge of the wrongdoing, saying that the money recovered from them was given on account of sponsorship contracts that they had signed with the different commercial organizations, said legal advisor of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB).

  42. #42 by khansahab on September 4, 2010 - 2:55 PM

    Pakistan High Commissioner attacks ICC again

    Pakistan High Commissioner to Britain, Wajid Shamsul Hasan, has attacked — yet again — the International Cricket Council (ICC) saying that the world body’s decision to drop tainted pacer Mohammed Aamer from the list of annual awards nominees shows that ‘there is a rat in the whole affair’.

    Hasan said that by removing Aamer from the list of nominees for the Emerging Player of the Year award, the ICC has violated the ‘general principle of law — innocent until proven guilty’.

    ‘I have learnt that ICC has taken cricketer Aamer’s name off the list of ‘Players of the Year’. What happened to the general principle of law ‘innocent until proven guilty’,’ Hasan said in a statement late Friday.

  43. #43 by M. Y. Kasim on September 4, 2010 - 3:56 PM

    You guys are absolutely right. It needs a change of Hearts not Minds. The link JAK posted surprised me, since there is a similar, Monumental Mandir in Houston as well. And again, since it is a newly developed neighborhood called New Terrotory, to acquire land was not a problem, hence down a mile or so, there is another huge Mosque as well built and managed by the same ISGH πŸ™‚

    One thing is certain, though, as long as Pakistan is “Governed” by the feudal lords and as long as the Military Brass has a say to its policy, it is not going to happen, howsoever the common man wants or wish. πŸ˜€

    If and when there is Peace, there will not be any need to acquire and buy all kinds of Weapons πŸ˜€ As such, the Military Brass are not going to send their families and friends to the “Yateemkhana” (home for detitute peoples) πŸ˜€

  44. #44 by khansahab on September 4, 2010 - 4:31 PM

    News has come today that Zardari has refused to sack Butt. He has hinted Butt will get an extension to his tenure. Butt may be Chairman for a few years.

  45. #45 by khansahab on September 4, 2010 - 5:36 PM

    Cash found in players’ hotel rooms ‘not much’: Pak envoy

    Pakistan High Commissioner in the United Kingdom Wajid Shamsul Hasan on Saturday admitted that cash was recovered by the police from hotel rooms of the Pakistan cricketers, whose performance are being probed into in the wake of a spot-fixing scandal.

    “The cash was not much, around 30,000 pounds and that is not a big amount when you are in a long tour. Salman Butt’s sister is getting married he could be using the money for shopping. But his mother fell ill so she could not come,” Hasan said.

    The envoy felt accepted that the money was given to the players – Butt and pacer duo of Mohammad Aamir and Mohammad Asif – by the alleged bookie Mazhar Majeed.

    “Definitely there was money given to them (players) by Majeed. Majeed was agent of these players and thats the connection between him and the players. I did not know whether he had any links with Indian bookies or Bombay bookies,” Hasan said.

    “But the only question is whether they (players) declared it or not, that should be investigated,” he added.

    Asked about the police investigation, Hasan said that he did not have much knowledge about the progress of the probe.

    “I have not talked to the police. I don’t know what evidence they have got, they have not informed us so far. But I hope the investigators take a lenient view of the fact that they (players) are from a poor background and not very educated,” he said.

    Pakistan cricket found itself in a crisis after British tabloid ‘The News of the World’ broke the story about an alleged nexus between three players – captain Salman Butt and pacer duo of Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Aamir – and Majeed.

    “Majeed, I believe, was involved with some of the bookies. He was constantly in touch with some of them and had telephonic exchanges which was discovered,” Hasan said.

  46. #46 by khansahab on September 4, 2010 - 5:39 PM

    Yawar Saeed is Mian Raza Rabbani’s father in law.

    Rabbani is a senior PPP guy.

  47. #47 by khansahab on September 4, 2010 - 5:50 PM

    Wajid Hasan should be sacked following his involvement in this scandal and his irresponsible statements.

  48. #48 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 4, 2010 - 7:56 PM

    I don’t understand that how can they call cash 50,000 pound sterling as small money? On one hand Asaf’s father is showing his Bhains Kudd Kay Lay Gayee Killa and has nothing in bank accounts. And on the other hand 50,000 is insignificant. And, if one judge by their standards one wedding dress for Butt’s sister costs 50,000 pound sterling. I think among the poor people at least 50 people can get married spending 1000 pound sterling each. The Pakistani High Commissioner Wajid Hasan is an asshole he has no idea where he is blabbing from? “There is a rat in the whole affair.” Actually there is a rat in Ijaz’s Butt and that too a dead stinking one and Wajid Hasan has just poked his nose in there.

    Also, for Butt & Co to say that they were not aware why this money is being paid? They should go and talk to a simpleton like Asaf’s father and tell him that, bakaoz we know they are not so naive as to get that much money in cash and yet they don’t know why it was given. As regards sponsorship money, there is always a contract and as per the contract the money is either wired to the beneficiaries account or, a cheque is given but, no cash. We are not PAINDOOz like Asaf’s father to believe in whatever they say as truth.

    Btw, does anyone know that the Hira Mandee Gashtee called Veena Malak has posed nude?
    So, whoever considering her statement against Asaf should know her credibility, there may be truth in her statements but, her credibility is also very dubious.

  49. #49 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 4, 2010 - 8:04 PM

    khansahab

    The news that Yawar Saeed fell and injured his face, is indeed a very sad news that neither his nose got broken nor his jaw. I wish something must have happened so that, the idiot goes back home instead of lingering on with the team and fixing matches for them and taking Ijaz Butt’s cut.

    The saddest news that you have conveyed here is about BUTT EXTENSION this MF Bastard is going to stay for a few more years? Why doesn’t he die? May God Bless is Butt and put him to sleep in his grave ASAP.

  50. #50 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 4, 2010 - 8:14 PM

    Please read this news by clicking on to this link:

    http://www.cricinfo.com/england-v-pakistan-2010/content/current/story/475769.html

    What Ijaz Butt and that stupid idiot Wajid Hasan couldn’t do, SHAHID AFRIDI has done by apologizing to everyone on behalf of those crooks. Ijaz Butt has not yet apologized to the Sri Lankan Cricket Team or the people of Sri Lanka.

    IJAZ BUTT MURDABAAD.

  51. #51 by Sadia on September 4, 2010 - 10:43 PM

    Do you guys not have a life?

  52. #52 by khansahab on September 4, 2010 - 10:43 PM

    Omer

    I have just seen Yasir’s interview on ARY and he has denied either speaking to NOTW or accepting a penny for fixing matches.

    He is obviously backing down because he realises that his career will be ruined if the ICC charges him with failure to report despite suspicion of match fixing.

    Meanwhile, Kamran Akmal has been contacted by Scotland Yard who want to interrogate him.

  53. #53 by khansahab on September 4, 2010 - 10:49 PM

    Shahid Afridi’s manager in UAE has said that the following players are not involved in match fixing:

    Shahid Afridi, Abdul Razzaq, Umar Gul, Fawad Alam, Shahzaib Hassan, Zulqarnain Haider and Yasir Hameed

  54. #54 by khansahab on September 4, 2010 - 11:02 PM

    Pakistan match-fixing claims: player ‘hid mobile phone in his helmet while waiting to bat’

    A former Pakistan Test cricketer, who was told of the incident by this player’s team-mate, has passed on the allegation to the International Cricket Council’s Anti-Corruption and Security Unit. The use of mobile phones by players is strictly forbidden anywhere on the ground during an international match under ICC regulations designed to prevent communication between match-fixers and players.
    The former Test cricketer, who wished to remain anonymous for fear of reprisals, said he rang the ACSU hotline after being told recently of the claim by the current Pakistan player. The phone was hidden inside the right earpiece of the helmet of the player waiting to bat, he alleged.

    “My reaction was one of disbelief,” the former Test cricketer said on Saturday. “I had reason to suspect things were going on in international cricket, and you never had total confidence in certain games because of the rumours about match fixing and spot fixing. But when I was told about this player with the mobile inside his helmet, I was flabbergasted.”
    This revelation comes at the end of perhaps the most disturbing week cricket has seen in England, following last Sunday’s newspaper allegations of spot fixing by three Pakistan players in the Lord’s Test. Salman Butt, Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif were all provisionally suspended by the ICC on Thursday evening after allegations of bowling deliberate no-balls in the fourth Test between England and Pakistan. They were questioned by police in London on Friday but were released without charge.

  55. #55 by Pawan on September 5, 2010 - 3:55 AM

    Yawar Saeed is such a disgusting fellow. I was watching his interview the other day where he announced that 3 replacements will be called for one day series with England. He kept on repeating the same things without answering any questions at all and kept on mocking at the journalists. If the manager cannot answer questions then who will? If you only want to make just statements then why not send in a tape, why the damn Saeed?

    I am sorry to say but I think I will loose complete faith and respect for Pakistan team if they don’t fire the cultprits this time.

  56. #56 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 5, 2010 - 5:47 AM

    Sadia;

    If life is just about juvenile sentencing or turning mediocre looking females into models by way of air-brushing and make up, then it is better that we are happy discussing cricket. πŸ˜€

    Anyways, it is good to see ya back on the blog after a long time Madame Prosecutor πŸ˜€

  57. #57 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 5, 2010 - 5:49 AM

    Pawan

    What do you expect from a 75 year old uncouth Paindoo Yawar Saeed? After all he is Ijaz Butt’s langotiya yaar the only thing is Butt’s Langoti is Jumbo size. πŸ˜‰

  58. #58 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 5, 2010 - 5:58 AM

    Omer

    Probably you know that if someone brings cash more than 10,000 dollars they have to declare the source to the IRS. How come Salman Butt carry 50000 pounds sterling and no one asks him and the Pakistani High Commissioner in the UK says it is a small amount and it is normal to bring that much cash when you are on a tour for a couple of months! That MF should know that all the expenses are paid by the PCB, including their boarding and lodging so who carries that much cash? These MF bastards can deny but, no one is stupid not to believe that this is tainted money from betting and match fixing.

    I can’t believe how Wahab Riaz can get away after such hard evidence on video when he wore that jacket which the bookie first flashed the notes, took off the jacket and gave it to Wahab Riaz and he wore it. Wahab Riaz must have thought, the day when I gave RS. 1.2 million to Shafqat Rana to get in to the squad, today is the day to reap the profits. These Lulloo’s like Wahab and Umar Amin are babies in the international team and just started their career and from day one they are in the wrong doings and illegal activities. They need a ban for sure, or else any new player coming after them would admire them as heroes who can take 5 wickets in a match and then take ten thousand pound sterling from the bookie as the first payment. They are real assholes.

  59. #59 by khansahab on September 5, 2010 - 7:14 AM

    Spot fixing: Pak cricketers hit by 23 charges

    The three Pakistan players in the dock for spot fixing – Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Aamir-have been hit with a staggering 23 charges after a News of the World (NOTW) undercover investigation.

    The International Cricket Council (ICC) charges run to a massive six pages per player.

    According to the NOTW, Butt had previously been warned five times about his duty to report illegal approaches before the latest betting scandal.

    The three players and Majeed are the subject of a Scotland Yard investigation, with the Pakistan stars also facing the wrath of an ICC desperate to save their sport’s battered reputation.

    Test captain Butt and veteran bowler Asif both face life bans, although there is a growing sense among ICC top brass that 18-year-old Amir should be dealt with more leniently.

    They have all been charged under Article 2 of the ICC’s anti-corruption code, with Butt’s charge sheet the longest of the three.

    In total, the charges run to 18 pages, which were handed to the players on Thursday night after the ICC’s Anti-Corruption and Security Unit swooped.

  60. #60 by khansahab on September 5, 2010 - 7:15 AM

    Sadia

    Do you think Veena Malak has been airbrushed?

  61. #61 by khansahab on September 5, 2010 - 1:05 PM

    PCB, Pak High Commission, team management call emergency meet

    The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), Pakistan’s High Commissioner to the U.K., Wajid Shamsul Hasan, and members of the team management have reportedly called an emergency meeting in London following fresh revelations made by a British tabloid.

    British tabloid News of The World reported that batsman Yasir Hameed had β€œsensationally confirmed” its report that some Pakistan players had accepted money to fix aspects of the fourth Test match against England in London.

    The tabloid said Hameed had told one of its reporters in a bar in Nottingham, central England, that some Pakistan players were fixing β€œalmost every match.”

    “They’ve been caught. Only the ones that get caught are branded crooks. They were doing it (fixing) in almost every match. God knows what they were up to. Scotland Yard was after them for ages,” News of The World quoted Hameed, as saying.

    “It makes me angry because I’m playing my best and they are trying to lose,” the 32-year-old added. The Pakistan team is currently embroiled in a β€˜spot-fixing’ scandal, following which the International Cricket Council (ICC) has suspended Test captain Salman Butt, Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif.

  62. #62 by khansahab on September 5, 2010 - 1:07 PM

    Tainted trio should stay away from dressing room: Afridi

    Coming hard at the suspended trio of Salman Butt, Mohammad Amir and Mohammed Asif, Pakistan one-day captain Shahid Afridi on Sunday said they should be kept away from the dressing room in the best interest of the team.

    The trio are being investigated by Scotland Yard for the their alleged involvement in spot-fixing.

    Afridi though said the England tour should continue despite that the crisis has been deepened after another revelation by tabloid ‘News of the World’.

    In yet another startling revelation, the tabloid quoted Pakistani opener Yasir Hameed as saying that almost all the Pakistani players were involved in match-fixing.

    “We are encountering a tough situation and we can’t afford to back off from this situation. Everyone knows how important this England tour is for Pakistan cricket. The tour of England will go on.

    “I don’t think that trio should be part of the team or the dressing room. Keeping them out is for our best interest,” Afridi told Geo News.

    While Pakistan team is in Cardiff to play first of the two Twenty20 matches, the trio is in London for the interrogations.

    Afridi had earlier offered a public apology on behalf of the three players.

    Afridi had also distanced himself from the events of the last week and insisted that his team was focused on the remaining tour.

  63. #63 by Shoaib on September 5, 2010 - 2:00 PM

    @khan-Saab I think you and your blog partner need more to remind yourself of month of Ramadan, you couldn’t take my few lines constructively whereas you both are shitting from your mouth with loads of swearing words all the time. Shame on you for just reminding me about the month, by doing that you again proved that you are a third class regionalist who cannot see fault in himself.

    Regarding your saying about my threatening words, let me reassure you that my words ARE threatening for the biased and regionalist bullshitters like you.

    At last I would love to mention that my bladder is very strong and in good health, it just gets inconsistent a bit when people like you open their mouth each time, and this is the moment when I cannot stop myself and would love to empty it right in the precise moment in the right place.
    You can only use your this blog to vomit your mental sickness although it is well known that whenever you tried this any other blog you have been ridiculed.

  64. #64 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 5, 2010 - 2:03 PM

    Omer

    You didn’t get my point, I was responding to your question by saying if one carries more than $10,000 cash while traveling or if you bring it to deposit in a bank then you have to disclose the source and prove it is genuine and legal money by filing a form with IRS and this is a pretty standard procedure. I was shocked to hear that Salman Butt can bring so much money from Pakistan and no one questions him at the airport and he carries it all along into his hotel room! This is all Bull, that bastard got it from the bookie as a token of confirmation for his agreement with the bookie. Do you know, reportedly Salman Butt’s father is a Horse Racing Bookie in Lahore? I heard from someone who was saying this with a lot of conviction that Like father like son.

    I didn’t see Yasir Hameed’s video in which he was reportedly sitting in a bar with a glass of wine and blabbed away! Is it true that he was drinking? Or, he was so drunk that he wasn’t aware of his blabbing?

  65. #65 by khansahab on September 5, 2010 - 2:19 PM

    Shoaib

    As earlier indicated we welcome constructive criticism.

    I hope you don’t get ulcer or any other problems as Eid is approaching and I don’t want you to spend it in bed with your bedpan πŸ™‚

  66. #66 by khansahab on September 5, 2010 - 3:04 PM

    That was just a pathetic innings from Fawad Alam!!

  67. #67 by khansahab on September 5, 2010 - 3:28 PM

    Pakistan played very irresponsibly. The best batsman for me today was Shahzaib Hasan, even though he was slow.
    Yousuf just slogged, Fawad lacked confidence and could not play Swann, U Akmal played very stupid shots and at the end his score and strike rate does not reflect his poor batting.

    Afridi was okay, but not as quick as he usually.

    However this is a difficult pitch and England ought not to have a walk in the park if Pakistan do the basics right.

  68. #68 by khansahab on September 5, 2010 - 4:05 PM

    Shoaib padora

    You say you are not Punjabi, maybe you are a paindoo then? πŸ˜‰

    I thought I will give you a chance but bakaouz of your background there are a few things you will never learn so I have blacklisted you from the blog. Now you will definitely need a bedpan with the frustration, as your comments won’t show up on here πŸ™‚

    You were always a misfit on this blog and no one took you seriously because of your lack of education and uncouthness. Hence, no one cares what you say.

    By the way I am a Punjabi, just for your information.

    Eid Mubarak Shoaib, Eid key moqay par aap ko piss, pakhana aur paadh mubarak πŸ™‚

  69. #69 by khansahab on September 5, 2010 - 5:01 PM

    Afridi made an emotional decision to let Razzaq open the bowling. Razzaq is not the type of bowler you want to bowl if you are defending such a small target.

    Again it was Pakistan’s fielding that let them down- Ajmal fumbled 2 times, Akhtar dropped a sitter and Akmal dropped one although this one was very difficult.

    Razzaq’s 20 runs in 2 overs proved too costly. Even though Ajmal was expensive today, by the time he came to bowl most of the damage had already been done. Still, he did not bowl as well on this pitch as Swann.

  70. #70 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 5, 2010 - 5:01 PM

    Pakistan lost because of poor fielding. Had Shoaib Akhtar held the simplest of the simplest catch of Morgan off the bowling of Afridi in his third over, things would have changed with the sixth down at 66. Earlier he opened a gate between his legs to give Yardy a four instead of a single because of his mis-fielding was an encouragement to Michael Yardy to keep on batting till the end.

    Poor fielding from Akhtar, Ajmal and Wahab missed that easy run out is the main reason they couldn’t contain the English side later. There was too much expectations from Ajmal who bowled very pathetic just like Fawad Alam batted poorly and wasted a few balls. Moulana Yousuf not only batted better than expectations but, he even stunned everyone by taking that catch running backwards, which was very difficult. Afridi was getting wicket in each over had Akhtar held that dolly catch he might have even got a few more. But, this is Pakistan side they cannot defend small totals.

    Abdul Razzaq was wasted down the order, but is there a replacement for him? Who would that be among the current lot available?

  71. #71 by JOKER on September 5, 2010 - 5:07 PM

    Oye Soaib

    Sala tum Ramjan may bokwas kerta hoi sala tumara problem kya hoi? khansaab ya kon hoi sala aur ya kis liya gali nikalta hoi? Kya Salman Butt is bhoi hoi? Hom ko to ya khandani bhongi lagta hai sirf piss shit ka baat kerta logta hai ya iftar aur sohri dono time shit khata piss peeta hoi. Sala ko nikalo idar say ya cricket ka to bat noi kerta sirf tom ko gali nikalta. Sala is ka be Butt pay stamp maro aur kick out kero.

  72. #72 by M. Y. Kasim on September 5, 2010 - 5:11 PM

    An Open Letter To Mohtaram Janab Ramiz Raja, 😦

    Please..please.. please…….

    Dont tell us how old the new recruit, Asad Shafiq is, as it is he is from Karachi. πŸ™‚

    But again, please.. please…Donr keep repeating how tall Moammad Irfan is, even if he is shorter by an inch or two, we dont mind. πŸ˜€

    Ok……Please. πŸ˜€

  73. #73 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 5, 2010 - 5:18 PM

    khansahab

    Why are you approving this Shoaib Jeeper’s comments on the blog? Since he has nothing to write about cricket you may dump him and his comments where they belong – dumping site. JOKER has rightly commented that he is a Bhangi and all his pleasure comes from eating his own poop and gloating about it. If you black list his IP address he won’t even appear in the spam comments. Since you did not give a nip in the bud, you can now give a KICK on his BUTT.

  74. #74 by M. Y. Kasim on September 5, 2010 - 5:21 PM

    The Expert Commentator RR said and I quote “Umer Gul is rusty, he could not save the four.” 😦

    Two or three balls later πŸ™‚

    Again, I quote “This young man, he is highy Dedicated, despite his atheletic effort, he could not prevent a four.”

    The young in question was Umer Akmal πŸ˜€

    The only similarity between the two is both are UMAR while difference their is their last name 😦

  75. #75 by khansahab on September 5, 2010 - 5:26 PM

    Javed A Khan

    If you remember we talked about this Shoaib and I said, he is OK, a simpleton but seemingly has a good heart. However no one took him seriously, as Omer, Varun, Newguy, Kasim & Munir sahab etc are much more intelligent than him and he was a bit lost here.

    I tried to give him a chance but I guess he was just not destined to last on this blog one way or the other. Yes, I did not give him a nip in the bud bakaouz he needs to know that unlike him I will not succumb to that level- that is the difference between him, and us.

    Anyway he is not important enough to waste time about πŸ™‚

    (Shoaib, thori si Gaviscon pee lo, warna acidity mai izafa ho jaaye ga. Eid mubarak, eid key moqay par loose motion mubarak πŸ™‚

  76. #76 by khansahab on September 5, 2010 - 5:29 PM

    Kasim sahab

    If you notice, most of the times RR only compliments Afridi, Gul, Fawad etc when he is prompted by other commentators.

    Sometimes, he does not even do that and stays silent.

  77. #77 by M. Y. Kasim on September 5, 2010 - 5:29 PM

    WOW πŸ˜€

    We have an honest, straight talking, fearless guy in the shape of SHOAIB πŸ™‚

    Welcome abroad, I like your class πŸ˜€

  78. #78 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 5, 2010 - 5:29 PM

    Omer

    do you have the link to see Aamer’s house? Pls. post it here.

  79. #79 by M. Y. Kasim on September 5, 2010 - 5:33 PM

    I would like to comment upon Yasir Hameed’s alleged interview and subsequent denial. πŸ™‚

    But I am tootired and may be tommorow………. πŸ˜€

  80. #80 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 5, 2010 - 5:34 PM

    khansahab

    Yes, I remember he is the same piece of Shhhh oaib who had a row with Varun on this blog for no reason. Gaviscon is like an air gun pellet for his loose motions, he needs extra strength IMMODIUM.

    Kasim Sahab

    Are you welcoming this piece of Shhhh oaib on board to clean the toilets? He is going to make more mess, let him stay in his Chee Chooon Ki Maliyaan and clean the Pichlee Galiyaan, that is where he belongs to. πŸ˜€

  81. #81 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 5, 2010 - 5:35 PM

    Mr. Kasim

    Please do that, bakaoz I have not seen that Yasim Hameed’s statement on TV, reportedly he was PK Tun, was he?

  82. #82 by khansahab on September 5, 2010 - 7:28 PM

    Omer

    Younis Khan lives in Gulshan e Hadeed in Karachi. Mostly you will find middle class Urdu Speakers and Pathans in this area.

    Afridi lives in Gulshan Iqbal, again a middle class area.

    They can live in Clifton, Defence etc but this is their simplicity, they do not want to distance themselves too much from their community people and areas where they grew up.

  83. #83 by keep it up on September 5, 2010 - 8:51 PM

    Khansahab and javed sahab- this shoaib is meaning to insult your team, why you are allowing this comments. he is a “paindoo” its very clear lol. i think he should stay on his freind paindoo blogs where he will more suitable. actually i like this blog because of the diversity and its not about agreement all the time people like him just need to be shown the door. i think u gave this guy too much respect, you should not be desperate for comments he is just asking for attention. you know its when i came on this blog i realize a lot about pakistani people infact he talks like a kid this guy. i am not pathan or punjabi , just normal pakistani guy who has learned a lot since on this blog. what is happening in the cricket team and politics well is there any surprise? anywayz in the end just keep it up and dont let losers like him effect your journalism.

  84. #84 by khansahab on September 5, 2010 - 9:08 PM

    Keep it up

    Thank you for your support and welcome to LS. You are saying you have learnt a lot, but why did it take you so long to comment? Maybe good has come from Shoaib’s display of uncouthness since it prompted you to write πŸ™‚ Thank you padora πŸ™‚

    If he was not making personal attacks he could have participated on this blog. If he would have written such comments anywhere else they would have been blocked. But, Legslip is a liberal blog that believes in inclusiveness. Unfortunately Shoaib belongs to a mindset in Pakistan that does not value differences of opinion from people who are different. That is the reason for Pakistan’s lack of prosperity and disunity amongst the peoples.

    We hope you will keep commenting.

  85. #85 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 5, 2010 - 10:50 PM

    Thanks OMER mucho gratis πŸ˜€

  86. #86 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 5, 2010 - 10:53 PM

    khansahab

    You gave a befitting reply to this Shhhhh …Oaib and he disappeared from the blog, good riddance, in Farsi they say “Khass Kum Jehan Paak.”

  87. #87 by Mohammed Munir on September 6, 2010 - 8:54 AM

    Javed Khan …

    I haven’t seen the full match due to my Ramadan timings, but I am sure we did not lose it only because of our poor fielding or bowling. Although, I agree missed run-outs and dropped catches did hurt Pakistan, but I think there was no way to defend a low target of only 126 runs.

    I heard one of the commentators saying that average score during the domestic T20 games on this ground was around 180 runs (batting first), whereas we scored 126.

    In my humble opinion we lost this game mainly because of our pathetic batting.

    PS: BTW, In this game, Fawad Alam had the lowest strike rate among our team and no boundaries in his innings of 29 balls (5 overs).

  88. #88 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 6, 2010 - 2:27 PM

    Munir;

    I think I wrote in my comment that Pakistan seldom defends small totals.
    And, as far as I remember the average score on Sophia Gardens for domestic matches was 138 and the commentators were saying this is the first T20 being played here if Pakistan scores 140, they should be OK. It is true that 15 more runs would have added a lot more pressure on England especially if those two catches were held, Morgan’s catch was a dolly and he was on 13 and the score was 66 an over later Kamran missed Yardy’s catch after dropping it he said, “Pad pay lagee thee.” He was referring to his pad. England saved fours and converted them into to twos and ones whereas, Pakistan misfield on a few occasions and converted ones and twos into fours. Wahab Riaz if he had dived with the ball on to the stumps he could have got the batsman out he threw the ball from 3-4 feet and missed the stumps.

    The other reason was Ajmal was bowling fast whereas, Swan bowled very slow and was able to turn the ball a lot, Ajmal’s first over went for 13 runs and that changed the momentum, he was unable to put pressure like he normally does. I think, if Pakistan plays with a little more sense they should be able to win the second T20.

  89. #89 by M. Y. Kasim on September 6, 2010 - 4:58 PM

    My dear Javed A. Khan,

    Have you gone nuts? πŸ˜€

    You say Veena Malak poses nude, 😦

    What do you expect her to do? πŸ™‚

    Wear Hizab and run Tasbeeh? πŸ˜€

  90. #90 by M. Y. Kasim on September 6, 2010 - 5:03 PM

    Javed A. Khan,

    I saw the video wherein Yasir Hameed was talking in Urdu to some guy while chewing Peanuts or Almonds πŸ˜€

    I am agree with Shahid Afridi that he may be 30 -31 but, mentally he is 15 – 16 πŸ™‚

    There is nothing to write home about 😦

  91. #91 by M. Y. Kasim on September 6, 2010 - 5:11 PM

    Munir sahab,

    Assalam-o-alaikum,

    I hope you did not mind my last blogg writen in Gujrati Language. I was just kidding πŸ˜€

    Physically, I am drained although I dont fast, but mentally and spiritually, I am at the best in my life ….. Alhumdolillah. πŸ™‚

  92. #92 by M. Y. Kasim on September 6, 2010 - 5:21 PM

    Khansahab,

    You did not read between the lines my Welcoming Mohataram Janab Shoiab Khan Sahab πŸ˜€

  93. #93 by khansahab on September 6, 2010 - 6:14 PM

    Munir sahab

    Fawad Alam was pathetic although he faced the most difficult bowler mostly, Swann. Umar Akmal was also having problems playing spin and he made most of his runs after spin had been taken out of the attack.

    Anyway, whether this means Alam is not fit for T20 or whether he just had a bad day, remains to be seen.

    Yousuf made runs but barely middled anything and just swung his bat. Shahzaib Hassan played sensibly but should have taken a few more risks.

    Even Afridi was far from his best.

    It was just a bad batting display on a difficult pitch but the bowling and fielding could have saved the batsmen’s blushes. However, Razzaq was bad and then some fielding errors just proved fatal. Shoaib Akhtar was the worst fielder, in fact it won’t be wrong to say it was a match losing fielding effort from his side.

  94. #94 by M. Y. Kasim on September 6, 2010 - 7:55 PM

    Khansahab, Javed A. Khan , Munir Sahab and other bloggers,

    I am sorry if I hurt anybody or someone took offenc 😦

    I feel most of you are definitely younger than me, I treat you you all as family πŸ™‚

    Let me relate a scene from one of the Mark Brothers (or was it called Groucho Brothers?)

    A policeman came and said, “Gentlemen, come with me.” The said Brothers started looking all around. πŸ™‚

    Dont tell me you are one of the Brothers. πŸ˜€

    To sum up and summarise my life, here is a very old and famous couplet:

    Lakri Jali Koila Bani… Koila Jal Ke Rakh,
    Main Abhagan Jalti Rahi, Na Bani Koila, Na Bani Rakh
    😦

    Kabir Das?

  95. #95 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 6, 2010 - 7:57 PM

    I agree with khansahab’s comment number 102 that Alam faced Swann who was at his best and was turning the ball a lot, either the pitch was helping both the English spinners or Ajmal bowled badly or he was too fast and didn’t air the ball much to get more revs. Whatever the reason Pakistan lost the match. It is hard to pin point just one department, they were pretty ordinary in every department. Omer Akmal was dropped by Bresnan, it was a simple catch at the mid-wicket region the ball came straight into the hands of Bresnan just like Morgan’s ball flew into the hands of Shoaib Akhtar.

    khansahab

    as regards Moulana swinging the bat,
    I think he did the right thing because, he was under tremendous pressure because, he was labeled by almost everyone that he is not a T20 player and if he had taken some time to settle and play cricketing shots he would have been criticized more. Although 26 runs that he scored are not much but, considering the situation of the pitch, his own situation of playing T20 under pressure, and the total score the team made, it is pretty decent. He made his case stronger by taking Bopara’s catch while running backwards which is not easy. I was certain that he won’t catch it but, he did and it was a pleasant surprise.

  96. #96 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 6, 2010 - 7:57 PM

    I agree with khansahab’s comment number 102 that Alam faced Swann who was at his best and was turning the ball a lot, either the pitch was helping both the English spinners or Ajmal bowled badly or he was too fast and didn’t air the ball much to get more revs. Whatever the reason Pakistan lost the match. It is hard to pin point just one department, they were pretty ordinary in every department. Omer Akmal was dropped by Bresnan, it was a simple catch at the mid-wicket region the ball came straight into the hands of Bresnan just like Morgan’s ball flew into the hands of Shoaib Akhtar.

    khansahab

    as regards Moulana swinging the bat,
    I think he did the right thing because, he was under tremendous pressure because, he was labeled by almost everyone that he is not a T20 player and if he had taken some time to settle and play cricketing shots he would have been criticized more. Although 26 runs that he scored are not much but, considering the situation of the pitch, his own situation of playing T20 under pressure, and the total score the team made, it is pretty decent. He made his case stronger by taking Bopara’s catch while running backwards which is not easy. I was certain that he won’t catch it but, he did and it was a pleasant surprise.

  97. #97 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 6, 2010 - 8:06 PM

    I am saying from the DAY ONE that, Aamir’s age should not have any bearing if he is guilty. Everyone is sympathetic towards him because of his age. What I said, a week ago, Shafqat Rana the so-called “ASSociate Manager” of the team has said the same thing today.

    http://www.cricinfo.com/england-v-pakistan-2010/content/current/story/476002.html

    I have emphasized my point that an 18 year old is an ADULT, he is no more a kid.
    The celebrity status should not be considered while he is punished for the crime he committed.
    Wasim Akram was cleared by Justice Qayyum because of his celebrity status.
    Asif, when he was involved with Akhtar in the Nandrolone case, similar sympathies were aired by people.

    They said, “Akhtar is the main culprit, he must have dragged Asif into drugs, and Asif is so young, talented and his career would be ruined if he is banned.

    See what Asif did after that? There is no stopping, once a thief, once an addicted gambler, always a thief and a gambler. Rehabs don’t help much unless they change themselves, Asif has no desire to change because of his lifestyle and Aamir has joined the bandwagon not in the UK but, on his tour in NZ and Australia. Because, he was already in the limelight prior to the Australia tour. So, if he is guilty, he deserves the punishment.

  98. #98 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 6, 2010 - 8:12 PM

    Kasim Sahab

    No one gets upset here because of your comments, even if you say something you are our elder (buzurg) and we won’t complain and please don’t feel sad. Actually you haven’t said anything so why are you worried. Perhaps Munir has not read your Gujrati comment, he is too busy these days “Mala Jupta hai Ramzan may” he even missed my comment in the previous thread which was directed to him with “Meri Bhains Ko Danda Kion Mara?” Which was about FirDoze, Ashaq, Awan Sialkot Di Mujj.

  99. #99 by khansahab on September 6, 2010 - 9:44 PM

    A lot of people have criticised Fawad’s performance and Akhtar’s fielding, but I have seen no one mention Abdul Razzaq’s bowling. Razzaq conceded 20 runs in 2 overs, one can say the match might have been lost at that point. If you compare his stats with other bowers, only Ajmal was more expensive than him but as I said, Ajmal came on to bowl when most of the damage was done.

    I am being fair to Ajmal, I am not defending him but he could barely work wonders when the target was small and fielding was sloppy.

    I am pretty sure Afridi made Razzaq bowl because Razzaq did not get a chance to bat. Ideally Wahab Riaz and Akhtar should have opened the bowling. Razzaq should only be played on the basis of his batting. He can’t bowl more than 80mph, he does not swing the ball profusely like Anderson, he does not bowl bouncers or yorkers. He is a mediocre bowler. If Pakistan is batting first Razzaq should bat in top 4 to slog the ball and if Pakistan is chasing he should bat whenever quick runs are required. Other than that he has no utility in cricket.

    Afridi needs to realise that if he keeps promoting players like Razzaq and Akhtar due to his close friendship with them, it will affect his reputation the same way as Malik’s reputation was affected when he was favouring players from a certain region.

    Akhtar is a misfit, he can only bowl in T20 but his fielding is pathetic for that format.

  100. #100 by khansahab on September 6, 2010 - 9:51 PM

    Shahid Afridi: taxmen are welcome

    Pakistan’s associate manager Shafqat Rana and Shahid Afridi, the limited-overs captain, both welcome reports that their country’s tax authorities are to scrutinise players’ financial assets.

    It emerged in Pakistan yesterday, following the spot-fixing crisis which has resulted in International Cricket Council (ICC) charges against three players, that the government is to sanction the assistance of the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR).

    Rana and Afridi were speaking yesterday in Cardiff ahead of the second Twenty20 international against England today.

    Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Aamer have all been suspended by the ICC – pending charges under the anti-corruption code – after the News of the World allegations that they were part of a plot to defraud illegal bookmakers. Asked about the intervention of the FBR, Rana is all in favour of a move he suggested was already a possibility long before any Pakistani players were named in connection with the controversy which has rocked cricket for the past week.

  101. #101 by khansahab on September 6, 2010 - 9:53 PM

    This links shows another picture of Butt with Majeed:

    http://cricket.ndtv.com/storypage.aspx?id=SPOEN20100152297&nid=49997

  102. #102 by khansahab on September 6, 2010 - 9:55 PM

    So, it appears Afridi has centred the blame for the defeat on Fawad Alam, Saeed Ajmal and the fielders?

    I am still puzzled why Razzaq is not being blamed?

    Fielding needs enhancement for win: Afridi

    LONDON: Pakistan Cricket team captain Shahid Afridi said the players needed to improve their fielding to seal a victory, Geo News reported Monday.

    Talking to Geo News segment β€˜Captain Corner’ here, he said the change in batting line-up could be considered, adding the team needs support from media and nation at this critical juncture, as the team is wading through difficult times.

    Fielding plays a vital role towards victory; accordingly, the players will have to improve their performance in fielding, Afridi stressed

    Responding a question, the ace batsman said if the spinners had bowled well, the match would not have been lost; however, the team is not dispirited and it will never be downhearted.

  103. #103 by khansahab on September 6, 2010 - 10:01 PM

    ‘Match-fixer’ Majeed’s club out of business, fans distraught

    Croydon (England): The mansion that Mazhar Majeed owns, worth 1.8 million pounds, was often the scene of lavish parties that were sometimes at odds with the rest of this quiet enclave in Croydon, South London. Now, the intercom at the gate of his two-acre estate, where he lived with his wife, Sheliza, and their two daughters, rings out. Lately, 35-year-old Majeed has been seen only in a series of hidden camera excerpts that present him as the catalyst in one of cricket’s most damaging controversies.

    Majeed’s father moved from Faislabad to the UK in the 60s. Majeed made his fortune five years ago; on record, he owed his accelerated success which included an Aston Martin and a Jaguar, to a large property development business, and a smaller one as an agent for Pakistani cricketers.

    But his iterations on tape imply that it was actually his cricket-related finances that brought him the bulk of his fortune. Majeed, chatting to an undercover reporter, boasts of the millions made through match-fixing. He offers three no-balls in the England vs Pakistan test match at Lord’s to the reporter. These will prove that he can rig play, he proposes. And then he delivers. The no-balls were delivered to order by bowlers Mohhammed Asif and Mohammed Amir. The Pakistani captain, Salman Butt, is the ring-leader, declares Majeed. The cameras record silently, cueing a scandal that has led to the suspension of Butt, Amir and Asif by the International Cricket Council. There is worse to come, say those investigating the corruption scam.

    In 2008, Majeed bought the Croyden Athletic Football Club. On tape, he virtually confesses to using the club to launder thousands of pounds. Now, the money has dried up. “The cheque didn’t go through last week,” says Ben Judge, who plays for the club. In fact, the cheques issued by Majeed over the last three weeks to the players have all bounced.

  104. #104 by khansahab on September 6, 2010 - 10:07 PM

    Imran Khan has become senile and keeps changing his statements.

    His first reaction was shock and he said that, these players need to be punished.

    He then appeared on TV and said that, where is the proof? They are innocent until proven guilty.

    Then he backtracked and said, they should receive life bans.

    Imran Khan has lost a lot of his integrity and principles. During the time of Musharraf he criticised Dr Nasim Ashraf directly, alleging nepotism and mismanagement. But now he is very conservative with his criticism of Ijaz Butt, because there is “democracy” in the country.

    The truth is that the entire PCB at the moment is working on nepotism. Butt is the brother in law of Choudhary Mukhtar, Yawar Saeed is father in law of Mian Rabbani.

    Imran Khan has a lot of guts to appear on the TV and proclaim that the Pakistani public had a worse deal under Musharraf’s time.

    Zardari and Yousaf Raza Gillani have no respect around the world. Whereas Zardari is considered an insincere and crooked leader, Gillani is seen as an idiot. At least Musharraf and Shaukat Aziz had brains and respect.

  105. #105 by khansahab on September 6, 2010 - 10:22 PM

    Mohammad Aamer’s official age may be 18/19 but his real age must be 20-21 or even more.

    A 20 year old knows the difference between honesty and cheating.

    This is not a type of scenario where Aamer had a misunderstanding/did not forsee the consequences/did not have required intention to do what he did.

    It is like cheating in an exam, and this is something kids are warned about even when they are too young to realise the morality behind it.

    When it comes to criminal law, there are concessions for a first offence and age of the offender. But certainly the ICC and PCB under the ambit of their disciplinary action, must not be lenient on Aamer.

    In fact when it comes to corruption/fraud, it is better to be harsh than be lenient.

  106. #106 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 6, 2010 - 10:55 PM

    I have said this so many times on the blog that Imran Khan keeps changing his statements with time and tide. Perhaps is suffering from Alzheimer’s disease that he can’t remember what he said a few days ago.

    I also agree with khansahab that he has the tongue and the cheek to constantly criticize Musharraf whereas he has NO BALLS to say a word against Zardari and Gillani or their administration. Likewise, he did that against Naseem Ashraf and is silent against “BUTTROCITIES”. The whole of the cricketing world is criticizing Ijaz Butt and asking the Pakistani Government to remove him but, Imran Khan is silent on this subject.

    As a lawyer you have cleared the air about Aamer that he is not so naive that he cannot distinguish between right and wrong. If someone asks him to jump from the top of a building will he? To say that this money the trio received was not for match fixing but it was sponsorship fees. Who are they fooling and what do they think that we are naive, stupid or a Paindoo from Machikay or Changa Manga? May be Asaf’s father can believe that but, not the whole world. That poor father should know Asaf bought 4 bungalows in Lahore and he should also know his relationship with Veena Malak the Heera Mandi Gashtee.

  107. #107 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 6, 2010 - 11:02 PM

    khansahab

    In T20, Afridi must open the innings with Shahzaib Hasan Khan, I dunno when he will realize this? Perhaps not, because he is still a hard nut to crack. However, what we have been saying on the blog about fielding practice, he said it today.

    Remember when Yousuf arrived in the UK he missed the training and fitness session so they did not play him in the 3rd test. And, I wrote that it would not matter if he has not joined the training session, you cannot make him or any of the Pakistani players Jhonty Rodes overnight. And, I was also very critical that when they stretch these training sessions too long players often get injured just before the match. Afridi has today talked about it and said the same thing and suggested that these sessions must be held at the training camps and not before the match. They need rest, mentally and physically both.

    As a student, I used to stop reading the subject a day before the exam and I never, ever revised it whereas, there were so many whom I have seen were reading notes and books just before entering the exam hall. So, based on my own experience I suggested that the players need rest before the big match.

  108. #108 by Mohammed Munir on September 7, 2010 - 8:58 AM

    Kassim Sahab …

    Sir Jee … I am never upset or anything and that too of all the peoples YOU ? πŸ˜‰

    Javed Khan is absolutely right, I am trying to give more time for my prayers/ duaas during the last few remaining nights of Ramadan and keeping my cricket/ comments to a minimum. As you are aware it is the (Bari Raatain) and we are very lucky here in Sharjah to have regular Taraweeh and Qiyaam (Tahajid) prayers, beside whatever else good deeds we can do.

    I know there should not be any special time for prayers/ good deeds and we should do it all year round, but recently I heard Junaid Jamshaid saying that β€œRamadan is a like a Loot-Sale time from Allah SWT and it is only fair to make the most of this time, same way we want to get the best bargains during special promotions”.

    Coming back to your comment, well Kasim Sahab, I am neither Gujrati nor a Punjabi, any other guesses ? πŸ˜‰

    It is always lovely to see you active on LS.

  109. #109 by M. Y. Kasim on September 7, 2010 - 12:44 PM

    In my last blogg, I quoted a couplets, and at the end of it, somebody put a question marf whewther it was by Kabir Das.

    I am sorry I dont know, however I know another of his poem:

    Chalti Ko Kahe Garhi… Mawa Ko Kahe Khoya,
    Rangi Ko Kahe Narangi…. Dekh Kabira Roya.

    ( They call stationery which is noving, A large bunch of Milk is called Lost,
    They call colorless which is colorful, wWen I see all these, I Cry.)

    May be JAK could translate it in a better way πŸ˜€

    The Hindus call him Kabir Das claiming him as Hindu.
    The Sikhs say he was the Teacher and Mentor of Guru Nanak, hence a Sikh.
    The Muslims insist he was a “Bhakt” (meaning, a man worshiping all the time) and a close friend and conemporary of Baba Farid Shakar Ganj.

    Only Allah (SWT) knows best.

  110. #110 by M. Y. Kasim on September 7, 2010 - 1:26 PM

    WARNING ……. WARNING ……. WARNING.

    A very misguidad or Deliberate attempt is being hatched to Burn the Holy Quraan and stir up emotional outbursts from the MUSLIM around the world.

    The only way to counter this is….IGNORE …it totally, as if nothing has/is happening.

    If we, the Muslim loses our control, and start burning our own propertie and destroy our own feeble infra stuctures, we will be the LOSERS.

    That is what THEY wants.

    The despicable guy is called TERRY JONES. he is the the head of Dove World Outreach Church. If this is how he outreaches the world, than only God Almighty can save this world.

    It is a DELIBERATE aattempt to stir up enmity toward ISLAM, and a chain of a larger plan not to allow the building of a Mosque and Islamic Center at Groumd Zero and to remove President Barak Obama by labelling him as a Muslim.

    It is as simple as that:

    A Black Man should not be occupying White House ….. Period.

  111. #111 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 7, 2010 - 3:28 PM

    Two Pakistan cricketers have been ordered to hand over their mobile telephone records as it emerged they are the subject of a SECOND investigation into spot-fixing. Sportsmail has learned that wicketkeeper Kamran Akmal and suspended captain Salman Butt were contacted by cricket’s ruling body, the ICC, after suspicions arose during the Asia Cup.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-1309617/Second-probe-Pakistani-cricketers-Mohammad-Aamer-avoid-life-ban.html#ixzz0yrF6L4sr

    The Daily Mail also mentioned about the fixing of the Sydney Test and, Aamer, 18, will be told (by the ICC) that he could avoid a life ban if he gives evidence against his team-mates in the Lord’s inquiry.

  112. #112 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 7, 2010 - 3:49 PM

    Kasim Sahab

    You have already done the translation and explained it very well. While on the subject, here is one of Kabir’s gems.

    Chalti Chakki Dekh Ker Diya Kabira Roye
    Doi Patan kay beech may sabit bacha na koye

    On this above mentioned verse Farid Ayaz Qawal has narrated a very nice picture of unity. He describes that the Chakki (Grinding Stone Mill) crushes everything that comes between the two stone wheels but, some grain that comes in the center where the Tilli (the stick that rotates the stones) which is at the center doesn’t get crushed. And, that he describes it as the focal point of unity. Unity is also described as “Wahdaniyat” the singularity which is referred as God, the Creator.

  113. #113 by khansahab on September 7, 2010 - 5:28 PM

    What a pathetic performance from Pakistan. This is the end of Shahzaib’s, Yousaf’s T20 career.

    Afridi played a really pathetic shot.

    Hafeez at the crease, he models his batting on Tendulkar but at the moment Pakistan need more aggressive batting.

  114. #114 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 7, 2010 - 5:29 PM

    Hafeez played 5 dot balls and then scored a single. This team is all f**ked up they cant make 60 runs today.

  115. #115 by khansahab on September 7, 2010 - 5:43 PM

    Pathetic by Umar Akmal.

    He should have stayed there till the end.

    Hafeez is history.

  116. #116 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 7, 2010 - 5:46 PM

    Hafeez has been sent above Fawad Alam bakaoz, in the previous match Fawad played 3 dot balls and here is HaFeez all fu**ked up scoring 7 runs in 23 balls one over was maiden when he played and the first over he played 5 dot balls. Why is he in the team?

  117. #117 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 7, 2010 - 5:48 PM

    khansahab

    Hafeez is history? Right now he is ruining geography.

  118. #118 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 7, 2010 - 5:56 PM

    Good Riddance Hafeez 14 runs in 31 balls

  119. #119 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 7, 2010 - 6:23 PM

    I am wrong when I wrote this team cannot score 60 runs today but, they scored 89, Bumble Lloyd is saying this is a pathetic and sorry score for Pakistan. They could not play all 20 overs. The team is not the same, they are totally mediocre players at the moment. I think England will score these runs in 12 overs and win by 7 wickets.

  120. #120 by khansahab on September 7, 2010 - 6:25 PM

    A lot of people have ridiculed Fawad Alam for wasting balls in the 1st T20- but look at how specialist T20 players Shahzaib Hasan, Razzaq and Hafeez played today?

    Razzaq and Hafeez could not even face the fast bowlers- Alam was having problems against Swann.

  121. #121 by khansahab on September 7, 2010 - 6:26 PM

    Razzaq should retire from cricket- it was due and his batting is beyond its best.

  122. #122 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 7, 2010 - 6:30 PM

    Asaf khansahab

    It is time they bring Younus Khan back in the ODI’s otherwise you will see similar results. I was thinking that today may be they will correct their mistakes and play sensibly and score 150 runs, but they never learn from their mistakes. In fact today’s performance is worst than the previous one.

    Agreed that Abdul Razzaq, Hafeez and Shahzaib wasted too many balls, Fawad Alam’s duck will be more in focus than their slow strike rate and no one will notice Afridi, Yousuf and Kamran Akmal’s pathetic batting. Omer Akmal got carried away after hitting sixes, Swann reacted with no emotions on getting his wicket which was very sensible.

  123. #123 by khansahab on September 7, 2010 - 7:28 PM

    Excellent bowling by Afridi to Bopara, right after Bopara hit him for a boundary.

  124. #124 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 7, 2010 - 7:45 PM

    This was a quick ending for the pathetic performance which they truly deserve, that’s all I can say about today’s match.

  125. #125 by Ahmed Shah Abdali on September 7, 2010 - 8:21 PM

    Such as pathetic performance in both games. I love Cricket too much but these pathetic performances and controversies are making me hate watching cricket. I have been following this blog for more than 6 months and for me it’s the most reliable place to get correct perspective on what’s happening with cricket. I just wanted to write this to show my support for this blog. Khansahab and Javed Khan are doing spectacular just in keeping the blog up to date. By the way, the PCB owes me a store counter. I broke it out of frustration watching the extraordinary pathetic performance from Pakistan in Sydney. lol

  126. #126 by khansahab on September 7, 2010 - 8:34 PM

    Ahmed

    Welcome to LS. Thanks for the support.

  127. #127 by M. Y. Kasim on September 7, 2010 - 8:48 PM

    F**k the match.

    Fawad Alam has really dis-appointed all of us. 😦

    There are few points I like to raise/discuss:

    1. Abdul Razzak is too old for Cricket. His bowling do not have pace, zip and bounce of the old, his batting is a lottery and he can not hold catches, field and stop the balls nor could he run. When he was chssing a ball, the batsmen ran four runs. πŸ˜€

    2. Mohammad Irfan got his chance. It is about time Sohail Tanveer also gets another look. πŸ™‚

    3. Ejaz Butt Apni maa @#$%^& le, he has to Thooka hua chatey and recall Younus Khan with honor, without whom the Pakistan team is in-complete. πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

  128. #128 by M. Y. Kasim on September 7, 2010 - 11:04 PM

  129. #129 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 7, 2010 - 11:56 PM

    Mr. Kasim

    Where is the text? There is nothing in your post, perhaps you’ve done something like highlighting and then clicked the wrong button and everything disappeared. Anyways, this is just to show you that your comment without any words in it has been approved. πŸ˜€

  130. #130 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 8, 2010 - 12:04 AM

    Ahmed Shah Abdali, it seems like you have posted comments here before under some other name, am I right? Because, the IP address is familiar York, Albani NY.

    Anyways, thanks for the comments, we don’t deserve any pat on the shoulder because we do it just because we love the game.

    Mike Ahterton has a soft corner for Mohammed Aamer, read his comments:

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/cricket/40-atherton-pleads-for-aamer-leniency-tns-07

    He wants the authorities to give Aamer a second chance and NOT to ban him for life. As a supporter of Pakistan cricket team I have similar feelings for him that he should not be banned for life. But, as a fair and impartial observer I think if he goes unpunished or with a slap on his wrist, it would encourage other prodigies to follow his foot-steps. I think the best would be to confiscate their assets purchased from the illegal money and that should apply to ALL and that would hurt them most, because what they think belongs to them is actually not theirs.

  131. #131 by Ahmed Shah Abdali on September 8, 2010 - 3:44 AM

    you are right Javed Khana, my younger brother who I introduced to this blog had commented on several issues here. I am amazed that Daraa (pashto word for big teeth) akmal played in theses 2 T20. He should have been investigated the same way as the other 3 stooges. He does not deserve a spot in the team. The future of Pakistan cricket is not looking good. I hope they come up with some sort of solution to balance the team with equal representation from all states, not just Punjab. I have too much to say but it sounds better in Pashto than translating it to English. I’m tired … good nite

  132. #132 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 8, 2010 - 4:41 AM

    Stuart “Broad” said, he has no sympathy for the Pakistani players involved in match fixing, so far so good because we also say the same thing but, he went on blabbing a little more by saying: “At the end of the day as cricketers you’ve got one job and that’s to perform on the pitch.” Yes, Je me souviens, meaning, I haven’t forgotten the recent ball tampering incident in South Africa when he spiked the ball with his shoes to rough it up and got away unpunished because he is a GORA and son of the bigger BROAD who is an official of the ICC.

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/cricket/40-broad-has-no-sympathy-for-pakistans-plight-tns-04

    People who live in glass houses should not change when the lights are open. Especially a Stuart who is not less than a Broad, and as the expression goes, A Broad is a Broad, is a Broad.

    Broad = Low Class Woman, generally in a slang it is used for a Hooker.

  133. #133 by Mohammed Munir on September 8, 2010 - 7:27 AM

    Javed Khan & Khansahab …

    We lost both the T20 games and there is no two ways about that.

    As they say, defeat has no fathers, so no need justifying how and why we lost.

    That said, one point which comes to mind is that after seeing our first convincing defeat we shouldn’t have batted first after winning the toss, however, I think looking at the way we lost in both the games I don’t think even batting second would have mattered much.

    On who wasted more balls (Fawad Alam, Hafeez or Razzaq) …

    There is a major difference in wasting balls in the first (Fawad) and second (Hafeez/ Razzaq) matches. I am not trying to justify what Hafeez/ Razzaq did and please don’t misunderstand me as I also like Fawad Alam and want him to be part of the playing eleven.

    Coming back to my point, in the first match Fawad came in to bat at no. 4 when Pakistan was 50 for 2 in 7 overs, whereas in the second match Hafeez came in to play at no. 6 when Pakistan was 22 for 4 in 3 overs, while Razzaq came in at no. 7 when we were 5 wickets down on 45.

    I think Fawad came to bat at a crucial time and he slowed the entire tempo of the match, because before Fawad Yousuf and Shahzeb were scoring fast, no matter how beautiful or not but at least the run-rate was over 7, which dipped after Fawad started CONSOLIDATING. Just imagine if it was Shoaib Malik coming at no. 4 and scoring 20 runs in 29 balls, without a single boundry ?? πŸ˜‰

    Another difference is that in the first game Pakistan scored 126 runs with only 4 wicket down and we needlessly saved 6 wickets (even getting 10/15 more runs with 9 wickets down would have been better, as saving wicket is useless), whereas in the yesterday’s match Pakistan was all-out in 19th over, so it really didn’t matter much who wasted how many balls because we couldn’t even play the full allotted 20 overs. I think it would have been better if Fawad remained at zero and went not-out by wasting more balls rather then getting first-ball duck, because this way we would have at least lasted full 20 overs.

    Having said this, I still would like Fawad to play all the ODIs and the Captain should also try to utilized his left-hand slow bowling, because without his bowling and batting at no. 6/ 7, it is not good enough for a batsman to show his full potential.

    I accept that your cricking knowledge is more and you guys definitely analyze and understand the game better then me. So please correct me on these points, if I am wrong.

  134. #134 by Mohammed Munir on September 8, 2010 - 7:31 AM

    LOL @ Javed Khan …

    β€œAnyways, this is just to show you that your comment without any words in it has been approved”.

    Way to go Administrator !! πŸ˜‰

  135. #135 by M. Y. Kasim on September 8, 2010 - 1:38 PM

    Javed A. Khan,

    You are right, I must have goofed somewhere πŸ˜€

    Here is the first line of a very famous song sung by Madam Noorjahan some 65 years ago πŸ™‚

    Bulbulo Mat Ro Yahan, Aansoo Bahana Hai Manaa 😦

  136. #136 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 8, 2010 - 3:24 PM

    Munir

    The purpose of approving it was nothing more than making Mr. Kasim feel comfortable that “WE” did nothing, perhaps he has done something wrong that is why there is no text in that comment. He admitted that he may have goofed it up. Imagine if you write something and we see there is nothing in it and we trash it and don’t even mention anything then, you would be wondering whats wrong with my comment? Was it objectionable or what? Why didn’t they approve it? So……

  137. #137 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 8, 2010 - 6:48 PM

    IJAZ BUTT GREETED WITH SHOES AT HIS HOMETOWN IN LA’HORE

    http://www.cricinfo.com/england-v-pakistan-2010/content/current/story/476221.html

    Dammit the guy missed the target while throwing a shoe at Ijaz Butt, he wanted to hit him on his face. But, look at BUTT hypocrisy what he is saying:

    “He said that the PCB, “cannot launch a parallel investigation because the matter is already under investigation… The ICC has provisionally suspended players under their own code of conduct. This could be a double jeopardy situation, where they are being punished for the same offence twice.”

    If this is the case, then why did he punish Shahid Afridi when he was already punished by the ICC on that ball chewing incident? Just bakaoz Salman Butt, Asaf and Aamer are from Punjab he wants to protect them? At that time the whole world was ruing at Butt and saying the same thing that you cannot punish or penalize a person twice for the same offense. Ijaz Butt is a real MF asshole. I wish someone punch him on his face and knock of his ugly teeth.

  138. #138 by M. Y. Kasim on September 8, 2010 - 7:27 PM

    Let me go back to my comments about burning of the Holy Qr’aan.

    This will not be the first time that such a diabolocal action is being done.

    History has witnessed it since the beginning of Islam. They may burn millions, nay Zillions of copies of the Holy Book but they can not erase it from the minds and hearts of the Muslims.

    The Tartars and Mongols have done it, they even destroyed the whole of Libraries and Towns and Cities, the Crusaders have done the same. Could they finish” Islam? No, instead they made the astray Muslim to forge their Unity.

    These actions are meant to incite the already troubled and distress Ummah and to start a chain reaction across Europe and not only Jews but Christian Zionists are fully active behind it. They are not the Jews or Christian but Agnostic or even Atheists, posing as pious Jews and Christians !!

    I and everybody who lives across the North America and Europe must have come into contacts with several Jews and Christians, and can say with conviction that they are not bad people, in fact, they are better in many respect than us.

    The best thing is to ignore these incidents and not give much attention at all. it will subside itself. Papee Ko Mat Maro, Woh Apne Hi Paap Mein Mar Jayega.

  139. #139 by M. Y. Kasim on September 8, 2010 - 7:33 PM

    To back my assertion, there was the case of “Satanic Verses.”

    It was nothing but a trash, we the Muslims made a hue and cry and overnight, it became a best seller.

    Had we ignored it, it would have gone un-noticed and died its natural death as another trash !!

  140. #140 by M. Y. Kasim on September 8, 2010 - 9:11 PM

    Correction:

    Papee Ko Mat Maro, Woh Apne Hi Paap Ke Boj Mein Dab Kar Mar Jayega.

  141. #141 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 9, 2010 - 3:59 AM

    Kasim Sahab

    Apni maot wo nahee maray ga “A cat has nine lives”, Ijaz Butt has 99 lives. Wo Dheet bay sharam hai zaat ka bhangee hai wo bhee Icharaa ka Khandani Bhangee.

    Butt, pichay say kaynda hai, “We are very concerned over the allegations and since we too have zero tolerance against corruption, we also want this to finish soon. We are really worried about the matter and if any player is found responsible then we will take strict action.”

    Khaali Khooli peechay say baatain kerwa lo Butt say, kaynda kuch aye karda kuch aye.

  142. #142 by Mohammed Munir on September 9, 2010 - 8:10 AM

    Javed Khan …

    @ Comment no. 145 …

    Array Bhai, it was my appreciation of your honest job as LS Administrator. BTW, I saw your πŸ˜‰ at the end of your comments to Kasim Sahab, so I wrote it in pun.

  143. #143 by Mohammed Munir on September 9, 2010 - 8:13 AM

    E I D Mubarak To All …

    Al-Humdulillah … the Holy month of Ramadan, with all its Blessings and Sanctities is completing and β€œEID ” is knocking at our doors (for us it is on Friday 10.09.2010).

    We are grateful to Allah Al-Mighty to have witnessed Ramadan, and look forward to a contented EID.

    On this Great Occasion of the β€œEID Al-Fitr ”, I take this opportunity for Wishing YOU All, Your Family and Your Loved Ones the Happiest EID, and many more to follow, Inshallah. I also pray for your Health, Safety, Contentment, and Well-being, from Allah Almighty.

    May all Muslims have the Most Peaceful, Prosperous, and Joyous EID.

    Mohammed Munir

  144. #144 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 9, 2010 - 11:45 AM

    Thank you and Eid Mubarak to you and to everyone. We are also celebrating Eid on Friday Sept 10, 2010.

  145. #145 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 9, 2010 - 12:00 PM

    ASAF CONSIDERS SEEKING ASYLUM IN BRITAIN?

    http://www.geosuper.tv/news_detail.asp?id=34083

    Is Britain going to be a safe haven for criminals especially those who are famous and wants to get away from punishment? Reportedly MQM leader Altaf Hussain, who is wanted in Pakistan is not only in Britain for the last so many years but, he is being protected by the UK intelligence agencies and now he even got British Passport. Now, Asif after committing illegal activities with the bookies and afraid of his own people wants an asylum in the UK. Main reason is, his own countrymen will not tolerate him anymore, his cricketing career is done and dusted and he knows if the goes back not only he will be jeered and booed but, people would be throwing rotten eggs, tomatoes, shoes etc., at him. On top of that he owes money to Veena Malik and she won’t let him go off the hook.

  146. #146 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 9, 2010 - 12:08 PM

    In the sports section at least there is one good news and that is about the Indo-Pak duo of Rohan Bopanna and Aisam-ul-Haq Qureshi reaching the men’s double final at the US open. It goes to show that if both countries can cooperate and join their hearts together they can achieve laurels. The two countries cannot do this at government level but, these two individuals have proved that they can excel sans borders.

  147. #147 by M. Y. Kasim on September 9, 2010 - 2:21 PM

    I had warned in my earlier blogg that if we dont stop calling for their life like ULTA LATKA DENGE, they might seek asylum in Britain, citing these threats and pleading that their life is in danger. 😦

    The British, in their Diplonacy,(or should it be called Double Policy) would gladly grant them not only asylum but facilitate transferring their ill-gotten assets and money. πŸ˜€

  148. #148 by M. Y. Kasim on September 9, 2010 - 2:27 PM

    I read Stuart Broad’s comments with amusement πŸ˜€

    How do you not think that he himself is not involved? 😦

    If Pakistan can take seven wickets, how a jack, ten and eleven could score centuries? πŸ˜€

    What proof is there that he was not fed “Friendly” bowling ?? πŸ™‚

  149. #149 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 9, 2010 - 3:14 PM

    Kasim Sahab

    That is the point about their Broads and Chucks have been scoring centuries because of the match fixing and when it will be proved their centuries may still be there on record but, everyone would know that they have been gifted on a silver platter. The same “Rona Dhona” is going in Australia when Ricky The Punter said, “The Sydney Test wasn’t rigged.” The reason is if it is declared as rigged match or fixed match then, their historic win would be tainted, Hussey’s heroics would be invalidated because of the mercy of Kamran Akmal.

    On one side the English and Australian players are taunting at the Pakistani players for match fixing and on the other side they are also worried about their records. It is like that Oval Test under Inzamam and Darrel Hitler, on records England had won that match, rather it was awarded and rewarded to them and the reality is Pakistan was winning the match by a big margin and due to the controversy, Hitler forfeited the match and declared England as winners.

  150. #150 by khansahab on September 9, 2010 - 6:39 PM

    Butt hints he will not step down if players found guilty

    Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Ijaz Butt on Thursday made it clear that he had no intentions of stepping down even if the players under investigation for spot-fixing in England were found guilty in the investigations.

    Butt was asked pointedly by a reporter at a press conference here whether he would resign if the players were found guilty.

    “This question has no relevance to the issue being discussed here,” Butt said.

    Then he remarked after a thought: “Where does the issue of my resigning arise, you are pre-empting things about players being found guilty,” he said.

    The PCB Chairman interestingly appeared to be in a more relaxed mood after his stormy return to Pakistan last evening when hundreds of people at the airport heckled and jeered him and raised slogans against him and the players.

    Joking and exchanging banters with the reporters from time to time, it appeared as if the PCB Chairman has got a vote of confidence from the Presidency to carry on despite the ongoing spot-fixing and betting scandal involving the Pakistan players in England.

    In Pakistan cricket, the President directly appoints the board Chairman and Butt was brought in by President Asif Ali Zardari who has retained faith in him despite scathing criticism of the way Butt has run Pakistan cricket affairs.

    Butt was also quick to defend his old friend and the manager of the Pakistan team in England, Yawar Saeed.

    To a question on Yawar, Butt said he didn’t feel the manager had been lax in his duty and could not be blamed for something that involved the players.

    Butt said the board was now taking number of steps to ensure similar incidents do not happen again. One of the immediately steps was that in future all players would have to appoint agents and business managers with the approval of the board.

    “The agents and business managers will be scrutinised thoroughly by the Pakistan embassies in the country they belong too and if they are from Pakistan clearance and their background record would be sought from local authorities,” he said.

  151. #151 by khansahab on September 9, 2010 - 6:47 PM

    We have received notification from a former blogger who was a Hindu, and has now converted to Islam.

    This blogger has requested anonymity so we will not reveal his name/details.

    His claims he has become enlightened and is a huge admirer of Javed A Khan.

    There was another blogger called “Hrishi” who accepted Islam and gained respect for people of Pakistani origin, because of this blog.

    Most educated people consider the Muslim participants of this blog to be good ambassadors for Pakistan and Islam.

    We thank all our visitors for their continued support.

  152. #152 by khansahab on September 9, 2010 - 9:38 PM

    Pakastan squad for ODI series:

    1 Mohammad Hafeez, 2 Kamran Akmal (wk), 3 Mohammad Yousuf, 4 Umar Akmal, 5 Shahid Afridi (capt), 6 Fawad Alam, 7 Abdul Razzaq, 8 Umar Gul, 9 Mohammad Irfan, 10 Saeed Ajmal, 11 Shoaib Akhtar.

    Asad Shafiq
    Azhar Ali
    Shahzaib Hasan
    Wahab Riaz

    I don’t think Afridi will go with Cricinfo’s probable team because, there are too few batsmen (Razzaq is coming in at no 7) and also because Afridi will be under pressure to drop Fawad Alam.

    I think they will play:

    Shahzaib
    Akmal
    Azhar Ali
    Yousuf
    U Akmal
    Hafeez
    Afridi
    Razzaq
    Gul
    Akhtar
    Ajmal

    However I would like them to play:

    Shahzaib
    Akmal
    Azhar Ali
    Yousuf
    U Akmal
    F Alam
    Afridi
    Gul
    Akhtar
    Irfan
    Ajmal

    If Afridi wants to play Razzaq he will have to drop Alam or another batsman which will only weaken the batting.

    Playing Razzaq and dropping Irfan also means that bowling is weakened. Razzaq is not a good enough bowler to be able to bowl 10 overs.

    Afridi is good friends with Razzaq so I don’t think he will drop him- however he will have to decide between whether he wants to weaken the bowling (drop Irfan, Riaz) or the batting (drop Alam).

  153. #153 by khansahab on September 9, 2010 - 9:41 PM

    Mohammad Arfan is officially 28, which means he is about 30.

    Some will argue he is too old to be making an entry into international cricket.

  154. #154 by khansahab on September 10, 2010 - 5:56 PM

    Irfan proved to be a disappointment. I did not see the match so I can only go off statistics.

    What happened to the bounce argument?

    Maybe Irfan should only be played when the team is playing Bangladesh, India, Zimbabwe etc- teams that have shorter players πŸ™‚

    I saw highlights of a domestic match between Irfan’s team and Karachi Whites and the Karachi batsmen could not play Irfan.

    Afridi needs to consider dropping either Gul or Irfan for the 2nd match. I think it is safer for now to drop Irfan and play Razzaq. Razzaq can’t bowl worse than 7 runs per over (one would hope) and his batting may prove useful when the team is chasing.

    Asad Shafiq showed guts, hitting 4 boundaries on his first 4 balls. He should be persisted with.

    I think Hafeez was also disappointing, being an opener and chasing such a huge target his strike rate should have been 85+.

  155. #155 by Ahmed Shah Abdali on September 10, 2010 - 6:55 PM

    Aktar Yo Ombarak shaa sabatho Thaa….Eid Mubarak to everyone

  156. #156 by khansahab on September 10, 2010 - 6:58 PM

    Khair Mubarak Abdali

  157. #157 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 10, 2010 - 11:14 PM

    khansahab

    even Afridi was disappointing, he wasn’t able to connect. The bowling attack is very weak, Razzaq or Irfan or Sami, no one is good enough to get wickets. England played well and scored 274 in 41 overs which was a big total, if Omer Akmal and Afridi had stayed till the end, it was possible but Omer got out on a very silly shot, very predetermined shot and instead of taking it on a full toss he took it on a bounce that is why he looped it up. Asad Shafiq showed some guts, he was defending his first few balls but, then Afridi came and asked him to go for big hits, luckily he was able to connect and dispatched Bresnan for 4×4 I agree he should be persisted, Pakistan needs gutsy players.

    Ahmad

    Khair Mubarakaan, Eid ayee aur chali bhee gayee, since morning we have been visiting friends and relatives and one more to go.

  158. #158 by khansahab on September 11, 2010 - 12:05 AM

    We have a new thread

  159. #159 by Ahmed Shah Abdali on September 11, 2010 - 12:58 AM

    Another disappointment day for Pakistani fans. I didn’t see the whole games, but did manage to watch the pathetic performance of Afridi. He was trying too hard. He needs to stay still, watch the ball carefully, and then whack it out of the park. It was embarrassing to see how many times Afridi failed to put bat on ball. He must have learned it from Fawad Alam lol. The team is mentally weak. They whole team needs therapy and some serious psychology evolution/adjustment to be mentally prepare or strong.

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