Butt allegedly the leader of fixing in the Pakistan team

The verdicts are out and the three tainted Pakistani cricketers, Butt, Asif and Aamer have received bans from the ICC. They will also face criminal charges by the Crown Prosecution Service of England and Wales. This is because the criminal offence, bowling no balls and conspiring with Mazhar Majeed, happened in England and Wales.

International cricketers are supposed to set an example for aspiring youngsters who want to devote their lives to sport. Millions of youngsters looked up to Salman Butt, an “educated” young man from a middle class background of Lahore. Salman Butt is no villager like Aamer or Asif, he hails from an upper middle class background, has benefited from good schooling and that is why he was a role model not just for his fellow cricketers, but for millions in

What is wrong about the way the ICC has handled the spot fixing trio?

Pakistan. Batting wise Salman Butt was highly inconsistent, but would sporadically produce class and leave even his critics stupefied. However he had an immense fan following, and he should have thought twice before indulging in these shameful acts which have disgraced his fellow countrymen, particularly those who live outside Pakistan.

However, when those who are meant to set examples,  commit corrupt and greedy acts, authorities strive to make an example of them. It is a common perception that those in power or those with fame need to be more humane, moral and responsible than ordinary public. This is why I do not blame the ICC for imposing what may seem like harsh sanctions particularly on Butt and Aamer.

This guy is not an 18 year old innocent, naive schoolboy

Mohammad Aamer is considered to be an innocent 18 year old boy who has just been “trapped” by his corrupt seniors. If Aamer was so young and so innocent, a spot fixing ring leader like Salman Butt would not recruit him in this nefarious enterprise. I have serious doubts whether Aamer is really 18 and whether he is really so naive as Pakistanis claim he is. Nothing about Aamer’s bowling made it seem like he was 18 and naive. He was shrewd, mature, tactical and understood the batsman’s approach very well. It is common for Pakistani cricketers to register their ages as 2 years less than actual age which is a means to prolong their careers. I have no doubt Aamer has done the same.

Across Pakistan the reaction of the public is mixed. Some people are still living in the delusions of conspiracy, blaming the West and India

Andrew Flintoff questioned why the ICC has not banned the spot fixing trio for life

for trapping the innocent Pakistan players (one of whom has twice failed dope tests). Some claim the bans were too harsh and Aamer should have been let off 2 or 3 years. Others feel the punishment was appropriate. The reaction from the West is mixed as well. Some feel justice has been done whether others like Michael Vaughan and Andrew Flintoff feel that the trio should have been banned for life.

"It's a conspiracy!!!"

It is pathetic the way some Pakistanis are either defending the shamed trio, or claiming that the bans are a conspiracy against Pakistan. It is remarkable that people who believe that in theory a thief’s hands should be chopped off so that he may never steal again, are now claiming that the spot fixing trio were treated with injustice. I am not advocating that all Pakistanis believe that a thief’s hands should be chopped off, but it is surprising to think that people who claim they follow Sharia, where the intention is to prohibit evil absolutely by taking absolute measures, can now say that the punishment for Aamer & Co is too harsh. Are these not double standards? And Pakistanis who often criticise the West for its double standards- why can’t they see their own misgivings?

Perhaps this is what is wrong with Pakistani society that corrupt and greedy people like politicians and some businessmen can be acceptable to the general population, but when people

If you feel that allegations of corruption are a conspiracy against Pakistan, ask Justice Qayyum whether his inquiry proved this is really the case

start pointing out double standards in society and preach enlightenment and moderation, they are seen to be evil stooges of the West who have an agenda against Pakistan. This is the reason why, Asif Zardari and Nawaz Sharif are more acceptable to the population than Pervez Musharraf.

Not so long ago a Pakistani, Justice Qayyum, conducted an inquiry into corruption within the Pakistan cricket team and found that most of the cricketers were involved in corruption in some form or other. However, Pakistanis have forgotten that. There is no point in living in denial. A country that lives and breathes in denial is only destined to fail and self destruct. This sad tale of spot fixing is not limited to cricket only. It is also indicative of the mindset of Pakistanis generally and their views about politics, economics and society. These are people who allow crooks to run elections and then rule and exploit them.

The ICC has done the right thing by making an example out of the trio. This is a message to all the cricketers of the world to behave themselves. Pakistan needs to wiggle out of the “victim mentality” and address the problems that lead to such disgraceful incidents occurring. I do not want to see Aamer playing for Pakistan again, simply because he chose to sell the country’s pride for the sake of money. That kind of individual does not deserve to represent a country in any field at any level.

  1. #1 by khansahab on February 6, 2011 - 3:20 PM

    We have a new thread

  2. #2 by khansahab on February 6, 2011 - 3:22 PM

    Anger as Pakistan fixers dodge life bans

    THERE is disappointment and confusion in the international cricket community at the apparent light sentences handed out to the trio of Pakistan cricketers convicted of match fixing.

    An International Cricket Council tribunal banned former captain Salman Butt for 10 years, with a five-year minimum, bowler Mohammad Asif seven years with a five-year minimum and teenager Mohammed Amir five years over their involvement in a spot-fixing scandal during the fourth Test against England in August.

    The decision came a day after English prosecutors laid charges against the three over the same incident.

    The three were caught in a sting conducted by London’s News of the World newspaper arranging through player agent Mazhar Majeed to bowl no-balls and bat out a maiden over in the Tests.

    Butt was cleared of the charge of batting out the maiden, but convicted over the same incident for failing to notify the Anti-Corruptions Security Unit over the approach.

    The independent ICC tribunal judges Albie Sachs, Michael Beloff and Sharad Rao seemed to indicate that they may have given lighter sentences if allowed under the ICC code and urged the council to release its full reasoning as soon as possible.

    The tribunal made a brief statement at the weekend announcing its decision.

    “The tribunal found that the charges under Article 2.1.1 of the code that (respectively) Mr Asif agreed to bowl and did bowl a deliberate no-ball in the Lord’s Test match played between Pakistan and England from 26 to 29 August 2010.

    “Mr Amir agreed to bowl and did bowl two deliberate no balls in the same Test, and Mr Butt was party to the bowling of those deliberate no balls, were proved.”

    The tribunal has recommended to the ICC certain changes to the code with a view to providing flexibility in relation to minimum sentences in exceptional circumstances.

    The ICC indicated yesterday that it had not received the tribunal’s reasoning and would have to take legal advice before releasing it now the players faced police charges.

    The trio have indicated they will appeal the verdict.

    There had been a widespread expectation that all three, with perhaps the exception of Amir, would face life bans and there was some criticism at the sentence.

    Former England captain Michael Vaughan thought the three deserved harsher treatment.

    “Why only (short) bans for Pakistan players I will never know,” Vaughan said.

    “Anyone found guilty of corruption in any sport should be banned for life.”

    Another former England captain, Andrew Flintoff, was also outraged, claiming the ICC must have a “semi tolerance policy” toward corruption.

    “Fair to say the feeling out there is that the bans aren’t long enough and the ICC have been weak,” Flintoff said.

    “Must be one of the hardest things in the world to get a life ban off the ICC, up there with climbing Everest.”

    Former Australia vice captain Ian Healy indicated he thought the sentences should have been harsher.

    “Amir is a teenager (but) Salman Butt is 26 and old enough to know better and they found lots of cash in his room at some stage into the investigation,” he said. “The ICC has got something to stick at least, there’s been plenty in our game that hasn’t stuck.

    “Five years is a start and I am glad they all got the same, there is no differentiation.”

    Amir, who was mobbed by fans on leaving the hearing, was teary and distraught.

    “Today was the worst day of my life,” he told Cricinfo.

    “Two no-balls should not be five years’ punishment, they have said this themselves.

    “I will also say it is too much and I wasn’t expecting it. I can’t think clearly right now.”

    Lawyers for the three will file an appeal with the Court of Arbitration for Sport but also have to deal with the criminal charges which could see their clients jailed.

    While some Pakistan fans have reacted with outrage, the Pakistan Cricket Board has accepted the decision with chairman Ijaz Butt indicating it had no standing in the matter.

    Butt’s handling of the matter has come in for criticism and former ICC president Ehsan Mani yesterday attacked the PCB chairman again.

    “I think the PCB failed to handle this issue properly and didn’t bother to guide the players at all,” Mani said.

    “While the bans were necessary to discourage corruption in cricket, I think Ijaz Butt also morally should resign immediately”.

  3. #3 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 6, 2011 - 3:27 PM


    very appropriate thread, will comment more in detail later.

  4. #4 by 420 on February 6, 2011 - 4:33 PM

    hmm, my initial reaction was they do deserve life bans. but once the verdict is delivered, i do feel amir deserves a second chance. i know, he is not a kid. but again, every one deserves a chance. asif got too many, and butt was the kingpin, no mercy for them.

  5. #5 by khansahab on February 6, 2011 - 7:01 PM

    Banned cricketers only emulated their heroes

    For any dead-enders hoping that at least Mohammed Amir would be spared, the final judgment must have come when the pacer appeared at his ICC tribunal hearing wearing a T-shirt calling for the legalization of marijuana. No one who was innocent, or at the very least had decent legal representation, would have shown up in quite so flagrant attire.

    In the end, Amir should consider himself lucky. For his corruption – and let’s be honest bowling no-balls because a bookie wants you to is corruption so bad even our politicians would have second thoughts before indulging in it – he only received a five-year ban. That’s the minimum punishment he could have received under the guidelines set by
    the ICC. If Amir, unlike most Pakistani cricketers, has reported his correct age
    he will still be in his early twenties when he makes a triumphant comeback in 2016.

    For Salman Butt and Mohammed Asif, though, the penalty is far more stiff. Butt, the skipper who impressed so many with his silver tongue, has been given a 10-year ban, out of which five years will be suspended. Asif’s seven-year ban has a two-year suspended sentence. Given both behave with dignity during their enforced absence, they too could be back at the same time as Amir.

    However, now that they have muddied the already soiled name of Pakistani cricket, it would be better if Butt and Asif never represent the country again. Having them wear the green shirts again would be a visceral reminder of how they let us down; how they sold out the team at a time when we were at such a low ebb that no foreign country in their right mind would set foot on our soil. There are no players who have done more to eviscerate the faith of fans in their national team as much as Salman Butt, Mohammed Amir and Mohammed Asif.

    As much as we want to, it is too easy to blame just three cricketers for a national cricketing malaise. Thanks to the undercover reporting of The News of the World, we know the painful details of how they sold themselves and their country down a muddy river. But, if we are true to ourselves, we will also acknowledge that they only emulated their heroes.

    We may be loath to admit it, but the Pakistani cricket team of the 1990s was rotten to the core. This is no smoking gun but the Qayyum Report and our gut instinct tells us that the heroes we revered were just as willing to turn a profit at the expense of their performance on the pitch. In his exhaustive report on the match-fixing saga, Justice Qayyum recommended that Wasim Akram never be made captain of Pakistan. In a more reflective moment, the judge admitted that the suggestion was overly lenient because of his respect for Akram and his exploits on the pitch.

    Such lenience was extended not just to Akram but just about every cricketer who represented Pakistan in that era. Had we given them the appropriate punishment, perhaps the cricketers of today would have learned the painful lesson that corruption has consequences.

    In such hard times, it is only natural to look for silver linings. And this verdict, despite the grief and pain it may cause us right now, is a blessing that has disguised itself ingeniously. Given the raw talent in Pakistan, it won’t be surprising if we discover a fast-bowling talent like Mohammed Amir soon. But the raw teenager we thrust into international cricket will know that the promise of a large one-time payment is not worth throwing his career over for. For that we have the harshness of the ICC tribunal to thank.

  6. #6 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 6, 2011 - 11:06 PM

    I am copy pasting my earlier comment which I inadvertently posted in the old thread.


    I agree with you that Aamir should not be let loose because of his so-called AGE. An 18 year old is legally considered an adult and that is it. Whether he was lured by Salman Butt or Asif or he has acted on his own, an adult is an adult, period.

    It is good that they have been banned because, they have not only done something bad for themselves but, they have damaged the name of the country. I AM PLEASED THAT THEY GOT PUNISHED. Others should take note of this and stay away from doing illegal activities.

    About the last or the final match that Pakistan lost, in my opinion it is because of poor bowling especially from Sohail Tanvir. They should once again consider on how to included Tanvir Ahmad in the team.

    The man Naseen Rajput who interviewed Aamir is very stupid, he is trying to portray Aamir as a hero. This is Pakistan and the typical Paindoo mentality that a cheat is being promoted as a hero. I remember when Asif was held in Dubai jail, one of the senator’s from Pakistan said, that Asif is our celebrity and we MUST bring him back. Once a thief, always a thief and once an addict, always an addict, Asif has not stopped from cheating and or, using drugs. Aamir is acting innocent by saying for two no balls 5 years ban is very harsh. It is not just 2 no balls but, it is about match fixing, spot fixing and about taking money from the bookies. A crime is a crime. Now he should remember this for the rest of his life and tie a knot to his knees and not bowl no balls – but, not get involved in illegal activities. If he was careful then he wouldn’t have been standing there today and acting innocent. All this act that he is putting up now along with that idiot Rajput who is putting words in his mouth by saying, “Aamir Aaya Aamir Chaayaa,” is all rubbish and that guy Rajput shameless and hollow.

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  7. #7 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 6, 2011 - 11:24 PM

    Aamir says; ” I will be back

    Who does he think he is? Arnold ShalwarNikker?

    May be some Pakistanis may have sympathies with Aamir, but I am pissed off by his attitude that he has shown in the video clipping above that khansahab has posted. Aamir is talking about Allah that He is great and He will help etc., etc. The thing is why didn’t he think about Allah when he was bribed by that bookie Mazhar Majid? Reportedly he had pound sterling 5000 with him and it was also confirmed that he sent a text message to Mazhar Majeed a night before he bowled the no-ball, asking him “Should I do it?” And he is saying that for 2 no balls 5 years ban is a big punishment. It is in my opinion a very mild or lenient punishment because he has disgraced the nation and millions of fans and supporters by selling away the match by involving in spot fixing.


    Very recently I heard a well known scholar giving a sermon, he said: “Prophet Mohammed’s desire was to create the best Ummah with best morals and ethical codes” He also added by saying, ‘morals and ethics play a very, very importance in religion.’

    The reason I am quoting this is because, it makes sense in the latest situation where Aamir is talking about Allah and about religion and he ignored the morals and ethics when he was committing the crime. In my opinion it is a crime, because he accepted money to sell the match and disgrace the nation. Now, he is trying to play innocent and naive.

  8. #8 by khansahab on February 6, 2011 - 11:54 PM

    PakPassion World Cup Team Preview – India

    The Squad: MS Dhoni (Captain & WK), Sachin Tendulkar, Virender Sehwag, Gautam Gambir, Virat Kohil, Yuvraj Singh, Yusuf Pathan, Harbhajan Singh, Zaheer Khan, Praveen Kumar, Munaf Patel, Ashish Nehra, R Ashwin, Piyush Chawla

    World Cup Wins: 1 (1983)
    Current ODI Ranking: 2
    Strengths: Home conditions, Strong batting line up
    Weaknesses: Inconsistent bowling unit, Injuries to key players prior to the tournament
    World Cup Group: B
    Key Players: Sachin Tendulkar, Virender Sehwag, Yuvraj Singh, Zaheer Khan

    25th June 1983, Lord’s Cricket Ground. Kapil Dev lifts the WC trophy after India had defended a modest total of 183 vs the mighty West Indies. That one image captured the imagination of India like never before and since then India has been predominantly a one sport nation. The world cup win heralded a new era in Indian cricket and took the game to the masses. It also ignited a spark in millions of kids across the nation with heroes like Kapil, Gavaskar becoming household names and parents promoting their kids to take up cricket actively. “Kheloge koodoge hoge kharaab, padhoge likhoge banoge nawaab” slowly started to become history in multiple households across the Indian hinterlands. The seeds of cricket becoming a religion had been sown.

    Then came the disappointment of the home world cup in 1987 when India were one of the pre tournament favorites and cricket fans in the sub continent were looking forward to an epic India-Pakistan World Cup final. Alas! It was not to be. McDermott bowled the hottest pre tournament favorites Pakistan out of the WC in Karachi on 4th November 1987 and a day later, Gooch had swept India out of the WC. Instead of an India-Pak final, we had an Ashes clash with Australia under Allan border winning the WC and kick starting an era in which Australia were to become the dominant nation for nearly 15 out of 20 years!

    Losing close games in the 1992 World Cup (9 runs loss to England and 1 run loss to Australia), India could not make it to the Knock Out rounds, but a 19 year old Mumbaikar showed the glimpses of the things to come in the subsequent world cups.

    The 1996 world cup for India was all about one man, Sachin Tendulkar, who single handedly carried the team to the semi finals with great support from Sidhu, Jadeja and Kumble. A grave error of judgment by the skipper Azharuddin after winning the toss and the decision to bowl first on what turned out to be a square turner (when everyone else had advised the captains to bat first) in the 2nd innings and a classic knock by the Mad Max, Aravinda De Silva saw India losing out in the semis in front of 90,000+ strong home crowd. Eden was shamed by a section of the crowd who put the stands on fire and brought heaps of shame for the host nation and the historic stadium.

    The 1999 world cup proved to be a non event for India. Despite having two of the top most scorers in the tournament (Ganguly and Dravid), Indian bowlers failed in many crunch games and India lost out on a semi final spot. The most bizarre match was the loss to Zimbabwe when they needed 6 runs with 3 wickets in hand but still lost by 2 runs.

    2003 world cup saw perhaps the strongest Indian squad ever in a World Cup with the likes of Sehwag, Sachin, Ganguly, Dravid, Kaif, Yuvraj, Srinath, Zaheer, Nehra, Harbhajan and Kumble. But they had come to the tournament after a humiliating thumping from New Zealand in New Zealand and the rusty form showed during the warm up games and in the first few matches of the world cup. But the team turned around the form and reached the final where they were laid low by an all time great ODI knock of 140* by Aussie skipper Ricky Ponting.

    2007 was a massive disaster for the team. Losses to BD and Sri Lanka meant the team went out in the first round itself. The coach Greg Chappell was removed and the captain Rahul Dravid was also booted out a few months after the world cup. Gary Kirsten was appointed the new coach and a young MS Dhoni as the new captain.

    And now we are a few days away from a 2011 WC being played in the sub continent. There is a palpable excitement gradually building up all across the nation. India is being dubbed as one of the hot favorites by experts across the cricketing world primarily due to the results they have shown at home since the last World Cup.

    Since the disappointment of 2007, the team has got better and in Kirsten and Dhoni, they have got two wonderful individuals as coach and captain. The duo has helped India become one of the top teams in the last 4-5 years. In Sachin, Sehwag, Gambhir, Kohli, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Raina and Yusuf Pathan, this could arguably be the strongest and most explosive Indian batting line ever for ODIs especially in home conditions. Kohli and Yusuf doing well with the bat in the last few months is a good omen for the team as it shows the depth in the batting line up. Not to forget Harbhajan who has bailed the team out of difficult situations in recent times with his clean hitting.

    Bowling though looks short on firepower with only Zaheer standing out as a consistent performer. But the recent form shown by Munaf Patel is encouraging for India and the plethora of slow bowlers they have in Yuvraj, Sehwag, Sachin, Raina, Yusuf besides the lead spinner in Harbhajan gives them plenty of options to turn to during the middle overs. Fielding too has shown signs of improvement with the likes of Kohli, Raina, Yusuf, and Gambhir doing well in the last few series.

    Concern Areas:

    One huge concern for Kirsten and Dhoni though will be the failure of this team in ICC tournaments. Shock first round exists in the 2009 and 2010 T-20 World Cups and in the 2009 Champions Trophy are still afresh and the team management will surely be aware of it.

    Another factor that could go against India is the fact that best ODI 11 of India in Sehwag, Sachin, Gambhir, Kohli, Yuvraj/Raina, Dhoni, Yusuf, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Praveen Kumar and Munaf Patel has not played together in an ODI for over a year. Some key players still nursing injuries with little over 2 weeks to go for the tournament will also be a concern. But given the format of the tournament, teams should be able to ease themselves into the tournament and get going as a unit once the business end of the tournament starts from the last week of the preliminary matches.

    Key Players:

    Sachin Tendulkar has scored the most runs in World Cups ever (1796 runs@58 in 36 matches) and with the kind of batting form he has been in, it should not be surprising to see him in the list of top run getters for this world cup too.

    But more than Sachin, the form of the middle order (especially Yuvraj, Dhoni and Yusuf) and the leading bowler (Zaheer and Harbhajan) could very well decide how the team does in this world cup. Dhoni would expect Harbhajan to get back to his wicket taking ways and stop thinking of himself as a stock bowler.

    The X-Factor:

    Yusuf Pathan with his recent form and clean hitting down the order could be the perfect dose that the batting line up needed for the World Cup. Yusuf’s batting in South Africa against Steyn, Morkel & Co. showed the kind of maturity that was missing during his first stint with the national side. His prowess against the spinners would mean that India could well use him as a floater in the middle order and can use him depending upon the match situation.


    India are in Group B which is relatively tougher with South Africa, England, West Indies, Bangaldesh , Ireland and Netherlands also there. But the team has got a number of match winners in the shorter formats and given how India have performed at home in the ODIs in the last few years, the co-hosts are being tipped by many to emerge as the winners. A strong batting line up, variety in spin department, a shrewd captain and home pitches, Dhoni lifting the WC on 2nd April 2011 at Wankhede is a real possibility.


    • With Sehwag in the final eleven, India is yet to win a multi-team series final under Dhoni’s captaincy!
    • The last final that India won with Sehwag in the 11 was the Natwest Trophy back in 2002

  9. #9 by khansahab on February 6, 2011 - 11:57 PM

    Don’t be surprised if Pakistan reach semis

    Harsha Bhogle

    If you made a movie on Pakistan cricket you would be tempted to call it The Eternal
    Storm. Nobody wants to play there, players are tainted and the needle of suspicion hovers eternally, the administration is astonishingly inept, they have deadlines for appointing captains that resemble those for stadiums in our part of the world…it could be an article in itself.
    Why then am I going to be talking them up? Quite simply because normal metrics used to forecast performance are irrelevant, chaos is normal and they always seem to play without a care in the world.
    It is thus that they will arrive at the World Cup; capable of brilliance over short periods that no other side in the tournament can conjure up. In a long game they might be suspect but the shorter the game the more it suits them. And it is a format that is tailor made for them.
    You don’t have to be consistent, you only need three good days over 43 to win the World Cup.
    Only Pakistan can lose Mohd Asif and Mohd Amir and come to the World Cup with Shoaib Akhtar, still capable of speed, Umar Gul, Sohail Tanvir, Wahab Riaz and Abdul Razzak.
    Add two quality limited overs spinners in Saeed Ajmal and Shahid Afridi, and back up in Mohd Hafeez, and you have a bowling side that can stand up to any.
    And the batting has just started looking better with Younis Khan and Misbah-ulhuq in some kind of form. Those two bring order and calm to the violence that can
    define their batting. If there is indeed a weak link, it is in their top-order. Hafeez is a journeyman and Shahzad one of many that crop up. That is why Younis at No. 3 and the hugely gifted, but temperamentally unsound Umar Akmal at No. 4 as a buffer between Younis and Misbah makes sense.
    Then the strength appears. No other team in the World Cup has genuine batting match winners at No. 6, 7 and 8 in Kamran Akmal (or his brother Umar if the senior Akmal goes in at three), Afridi and Razzak. It means no target is too big and no game is over till the last wicket has fallen. I won’t be surprised if they make the semi-final, unless of course, they have found a way to lose to themselves before. But you never ignore Pakistan and you never ever write them off !!

  10. #10 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2011 - 4:57 PM

    “When the match-fixing scandal first surfaced in 1995 and we had judicial inquiry, even at that time the PCB mishandled the case as they were scared that if they ban some key players then team will lose and the Board will be sacked,” Imran Khan

    Today, Imran feels sad about the young players being banned for 5-10 years. He thinks the PCB should have given a nip in the bud at the right time to avoid such incidents. Unfortunately the PCB is still corrupt and managed by the same old BUTTS. So, nothing is going to change.

  11. #11 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2011 - 5:00 PM

    Here is a link for the World Cup matches and schedule. This is designed on the same lines as the last WC soccer.

  12. #12 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2011 - 5:51 PM

    Like India is checking on Praveen Kumar’s injury and thinking of a replacement, Pakistan should also consider replacing one of their fast bowlers, (Akhtar or Sohail Tanvir) with Tanvir Ahmad.

    Tanvir is a wicket taker and he bowls very accurately whereas, Sohail and Akhtar are very erratic and bowls too many wide balls and short pitched balls and give away too many runs.

    On a bad day Umar Gul and Razzaq are as bad as Sohail and Akhtar, so Pakistan needs at least one fast bowler who is accurate.

    Which fast bowler took the highest number of wickets in the WC cups? Is it Roger Binny? and

    Who took the first wicket of the 1983 WC, was it Madan Lal?

  13. #13 by M . Y. Kasim on February 7, 2011 - 8:19 PM

    I am sick and tired of listning about “Poor Boy” Amir 😦

    Let me narate a vulgar Punjabi joke 🙂

    A beautiful young girl was returning home after delivering lunch to her father and brothers in the field.

    Suddenly, a “manchala”. guy came from nowhere and asked her:

    “Oui Kurriye, Thoda naa kii ayy?”

    She said “Bholie”

    Hearing this, tthe guy asked her to come under the shade of trees and undress.

    To this, the girl said “Anniey bhi bholie naayy” 😀

  14. #14 by khansahab on February 7, 2011 - 8:46 PM

    Banned trio summoned by Pakistan govt over fixing scandal

    KARACHI: Banned trio of Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Aamer have been summoned to Islamabad by the Pakistan government on Tuesday following sanctions handed out to them by the ICC for involvement in spot-fixing.

    Pakistan’s sports minister Ijaz Hussain Jakhrani confirmed that three have been called to the capital for a meeting with him that would also be attended by interior minister Rehman Malik.

    “Obviously we want to have a talk with them regarding the bans and their involvement in spot-fixing and also about what they plan to do in future,” Jakhrani said.

    The minister had backed the verdict of the ICC anti-corruption tribunal to ban the three players for varying periods but said the government has some reservations over the five-year ban imposed on Aamer which he termed as harsh.

    Jakhrani said that the government supported all ICC anti-corruption measures but also wanted to hear from the players.

    However, sources close to the minister said that the meeting has also been convened because of the summons issued by the Crown Prosecution Office in London for the trio to appear in a Westminister court on March 17 to face criminal charges of accepting bribes and defrauding in the spot-fixing case.

    “The interior minister wants to make it clear to the players the consequences of the London police filing formal criminal charges against them and instruct them to ensure they appear in the London court on the given date as it was on the assurance of the government that the trio were allowed to return from London last while they were suspended by the ICC and the London police was also investigating spot-fixing allegations against them.

    “The government apparently wants to find out if their was any way it could help out the players in the worst periods of their lives,” the source stated.

    Meanwhile, the mother of Mohammad Aamer has appealed to the government to help her who she claims has never brought home earnings from corrupt means.

    “We never thought that Aamer would be banned for five years. But I am confident that God will help him and he will get another chance to play for Pakistan again,” she told Geo News.

    “Sometimes I think someone has cast a spell on Aamer.”

  15. #15 by khansahab on February 7, 2011 - 9:18 PM

    South Africa are my favourites: Steve Waugh

    ABU DHABI: Former Australian captain Steve Waugh has some interesting takes on the World Cup. First, he thinks that South Africa will win the mega event, simply because nobody believes that they can. And secondly, its fielding which will play the biggest role in determining the winners.

    “South Africa are my favourites for the title, simply because nobody thinks that they can go that far. That takes a lot of load off them. They are a good side and I believe they have a great chance to win the title,” said Waugh, who was here in connection with the Laureus World Sports awards.

    Waugh, famous for his ice-cool attitude on the field during his captaincy days, picks Indian captain MS Dhoni as the one with similar attributes in modern day cricket. “He is a calm guy. It’s not easy to hold your nerve when 90,000-odd people are shouting at the top of their voices.”

    Waugh also said Sri Lankan captain Kumar Sangakkara and West Indies’ Darren Sammy have impressed him with their leadership qualities. “I am particularly impressed with Sammy. I think he has the potential to take West Indies back to their glorious days.”

  16. #16 by khansahab on February 7, 2011 - 9:39 PM

    Pakistan back ICC bans

    The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) have welcomed the lengthy bans handed down to Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir.

    Butt, Asif and Amir were each suspended from cricket for five years by the ICC’s anti-corruption tribunal after being found to have deliberately bowled no-balls in the fourth Test against England at Lord’s in August.

    Butt, the former Pakistan captain, was given another five years suspended and Asif a further two for the ‘spot-fixing’ scandal.

    PCB chairman Ijaz Butt was erratic in his response when the scandal initially broke in the News of the World last year, engaging in a war of words with the ICC over his refusal to ban the trio, protesting their innocence and bizarrely accusing England of match-fixing.

    But the Pakistan boss has now thrown his support behind the ICC’s anti-corruption process, and said he hopes the ‘regrettable and sad reality’ of Butt, Asif and Amir’s actions can now be laid to rest.

    ‘The time from August last when spot-fixing came to light, has been an extremely painful one for Pakistan cricket,’ Butt said in a statement.

    ‘I now hope that this unfortunate saga is put to rest and we can concentrate on cricket. We will continue to work with ICC on this sensitive matter in future.’

    ‘We will also see how we can help the three players with their education and rehabilitation program.’

    ‘Like all my colleagues in the ICC I am determined to maintain the integrity of our sport. This is fundamental.’

    The trio are expected to appeal their bans to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne.

  17. #17 by khansahab on February 7, 2011 - 9:42 PM

    Ijaz Butt was defensive when the spot fixing trio were accused of fixing, and he claimed this was a conspiracy against Pakistan and accused the England team of being involved in match fixing.

    He had no basis for doing that and it was an extremely irresponsible and immature way to defend his position.

    Then he had to apologise to the England team and now after the trio have been found guilty he is wholeheartedly accepting the ICC verdicts.

    What a buffoon, only in Pakistan can this type of guy be entrusted to run an organisation. Ijaz Butt should never have been made PCB Chairman and only Legslip was the platform that was against his appointment.

  18. #18 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2011 - 10:23 PM

    Kasim Sahab LOL @ the joke, yes he is not a Bhola at all. I can say that he is trying to act very well in front of the camera to gain public support and sympathy for his age. The people are so stupid that they are considering him as a hero. And, this meeting with the Ministry of Sports should not in any way be a support meeting for the trio, in fact they should not only be warned but, they should be penalized and the money taken from the bookies must be confiscated and they must freeze their assets. This should be a warning and a deterrent for others. Banning them from playing is the right medicine because, this is what makes them famous and if they use it as a means to earn bribes and disgrace the nation, they deserve this. Do you think Veena Malik would have married Asaf paindoo if he was not a famous cricketer? Or, anyone ever talk about Aamir? There must be hundreds and thousands of 18 year old in the country and who knows some may be more talented than this 18 year old. And, don’t even talk about Butts, they are at every corner and nook or as they say in Pakistan ” Ek Butt hato tou Dus Butt miltay.”

    Let us now stop talking about these three stupids and focus ourselves on the WC and discuss who should be the winner and why?

  19. #19 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2011 - 10:32 PM

    On Paper South Africa is a very balanced team with such good players in it and in theory they must win the world cup, but they are chokers and choke in crucial games.

    On Paper, India is also a very good team and playing at home grounds, in front of home crowd and they play well in India, but so far none of the host teams has won the WC.

    Pakistan has never beaten India in any major tournament especially in the WC matches. If there is a semi-final or a big game between the two, the chances are 50-50 because, Pakistan has beaten India in India many times so that will be very interesting.

    Harsha Bhogle says that don’t be surprised if Pakistan reaches the semis, I would say that, IF Pakistan reaches the semis they will definitely play the final.

    Australia, was written off a few months ago because of the poor performance, but they came out of their shell and beat England convincingly to win the series and they are a force to reckon and they can beat any team in the final.

    England is not my favourite team and I don’t think they would reach the semis.

    Sri Lanka is a formidable team and plays well at home ground and they have more odds of reaching the semis.

    West Indies, New Zealand can compete with minnows but not with the major teams. Bangladesh can surprise everyone with a few wins at home.

  20. #20 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2011 - 10:43 PM


    See what Wasim Chakram has to say on these bans.

  21. #21 by khansahab on February 7, 2011 - 11:55 PM

    An American, Raymond Davis shot a number of Pakistanis a few days ago. I don’t know how many people he killed, I also don’t know about the circumstances of the killing. Some people are saying the deceased men were trying to attack Davis, others say Davis became paranoid and just opened fire without considering the outcome of his actions.

    There have been protests within Pakistan against Davis and there are calls to try him in court within Pakistan. I support this notion. Human life has the same value whoever it belongs to. Davis should get a fair trial, and all mitigating circumstances should be considered. But, he should be tried in Pakistan because the offence has been committed on Pakistani soil. I don’t think he committed the offence while he was within the confines of the American embassy. In any event, the law on this can probably be stretched to include this situation within the remit of Pakistani jurisdiction. For example, if the dead people were executed on Pakistani soil (i.e. not within the confines of the American embassy), then that probably creates a sufficiently robust link between this case and Pakistani jurisdiction.

  22. #22 by Mohammed Munir on February 8, 2011 - 8:14 AM

    Some Random Thoughts …

    I have been a bit busy lately and am not able to write detailed comments, 😦 so I will just put in some of the points going through my mind.

     New article is well written and gives detailed analysis of the overall verdict and it’s reasoning.

     Although the facts are right there for all to see, however, I would personally tend to agree with Shree 420 😉 that Asif and Salman-the-Butt got many chances and Aamir should have been given ‘lighter’ punishment. Although, I definitely wanted Aamir to be punished and never let-off completely, but his verdict could have been considered on compassionate-grounds based on his Age, Illiterate background, Newcomer to the game, Junior Status in the team (one who can not stand upto seniors/ captains), etc.

     I liked M. Y. Kasim Sahab’s “Bholy” joke. 😉

    Javed Khan thank you very much for the posting link of schedule for World Cup. Yes it is in line with the Soccer design, and I find is very useful.

    Khansahab Since you are studying law, I would like to know from you that what will be his status after a criminal is convicted and fullfils his punishment ? I mean can such a person become a ‘normal’ citizen after he has served his term ? Does he have voting rights, equal status, respect, etc. in a society or will he be always mistreated for his earlier crimes ?

    Javed Khan I absolutely agree with your above comment no. 7, as even I noticed Aamir using ‘Allah’ in his conversation so many times. I am not sure if he really is that religious or weather he performs his obligatory duties, but when it comes to saving his skin from punishment, he is involving his religion into it.

    Khansahab I remember you arguing a few days back about a ‘juvenile’ person, his mental status, poor/ uneducated/ immature background, etc. which should be considered in deciding the punishment of a criminal. So are these issues not of any importance in case of Aamir ?

    Javed Khan I know which Muslim community would not eat fish without making it Halaal (so to speak). I also agree with you that we should not make things which are Halaal by Allah as Haraam on our ownselves and it is also against the teachings of Islam (unnecessary depriving own self).

    Javed Khan What is “Chittar Coat” ? 😉 Like yourself I also know many Punjabi words, but I really don’t know the meaning of Chittar Coat.

  23. #23 by Mohammed Munir on February 8, 2011 - 8:28 AM

    Khansahab …

    A major incident has recently taken place in UK during one of the forums/ speeches of Ex-President General Pervez Musharraf, and you seems to have completely ‘ignored’ it and did not mention it on LS. 😉

    Hope you were not in attendance of that historical event ❓ 😀

  24. #24 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2011 - 4:10 PM

    Eoin Morgan out, Ravi Bopara in.

    Similarly Michael Hussey and Nathan Hauritz are also out of the WC squad for Australia, both teams will be missing these players in the WC. Hussey especially shall be missed very much by Australia as he is a good middle order batsman and a finisher unlike Misbah who is a fiasco.

    On the trio

    They may face criminal charges if the report from Scotland Yard is correct which means they will face jail imprisonment up to 10 years for defaming the English bookies. I dunno how that could be implemented when these players remain in Pakistan? Is there an extradition treaty between the two countries or not? And, how the PCB or the govt. of Pak is going to deal with this? I mean saving these players from imprisonment? This could be a very grave situation because, so far they are only worried about bans and suspensions, if the court of law in the UK sentence them for jail punishment, they have had it.

  25. #25 by khansahab on February 8, 2011 - 10:03 PM

    Munir sahab

    I have no idea what this incident regarding Musharraf is. I have hidden nothing from you.

    I hope this is not one of your observations that always backfire, such as:

    – Musharraf owing a flat in the Burj
    – Musharraf owing a “palace” near Islamabad
    – Musharraf (still) being an Army dictator
    – Musharraf having external financiers who fund his party

    Regarding a ex-convict’s life, yes once a convict has fulfilled his punishment he gets all rights as normal citizens. In the UK the police and government keeps a record of an individual’s convictions and these records can be searched by employers when recruiting people. So, the only problem there can be is with finding employment. I don’t know whether your question relates to Raymond Davis, the spot fixing trio or just any given person?

    The reason why issues of juvenility are irrelevant in Aamer’s case is because when a person reaches 18 he becomes an adult. That is the globally recognised age of attainment of adulthood.
    In fact Aamer is more intelligent than normal 20 year cricketers like him which is why it is less likely that he was “trapped” into all this fixing business by his seniors.

  26. #26 by khansahab on February 8, 2011 - 10:06 PM

    A newspaper has reported that Salman Butt’s father suffered from a heart attack following Butt’s ban by the ICC.

    Meanwhile Mohd Aamer’s mother has suffered from depression and had to be hospitalised.

  27. #27 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2011 - 10:37 PM


    All this news about their parents is only a ploy to get sympathies from public. I have NO sympathies for anyone of them.

    As regards Munir’s questions I was also wondering what they are and to whom he is relating them to?

  28. #28 by khansahab on February 9, 2011 - 12:34 AM

    Waqar has kept the team united: PCB chief

    Karachi, Feb 8: Pakistan coach Waqar Younis has received strong support from PCB chief Ijaz Butt for his efforts to rebuild the national team following loss of some key players to controversies and scandals.

    “I am very happy with what Waqar is doing. He has a plan to move forward and he has handled the team well despite the situation arising out of the spot-fixing controversies surrounding our players and other issues,” Butt said in Lahore.

    He said he had personally seen the good work done byWaqar.

    “The biggest plus is that Waqar understands our cricket culture and has no problems communicating with the players,”Butt said.

    “He has kept the team united despite the off-the-field controversies we have had to face since last year,” Butt said.

    Butt said having seen the work put in by Waqar, he wa s confident of a good showing form the team in the World Cup.

  29. #29 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2011 - 1:33 AM

    Then why did Waqar get a show cause notice from the PCB for saying that, the captain should have been announced with the squad?

  30. #30 by Mohammed Munir on February 9, 2011 - 6:08 AM

    Ijaz Butt is a royal KaReena !! 😉

    His appreciating of Waqar Younis now (whom PCB/ Butt issued unnecessary show-cause notice a few days back) is a double-edged ploy.

    Firstly Butt is putting some pressure on Waqar/ Team and perform and do well at World Cup.

    While, secondly and more importantly for Butt, he is taking the credits of team-rebuilding and unity away from the Captain (Shahid Afridi) and giving it to Waqar (anyone for that matter).

    Although, it is a well known fact that Afridi has worked relentlessly to revive unity and brought back some enthusiasm in this hopeless and divided unit.

    Shame on The BUTT.

    PS: In the heading, replace ‘R’ with ‘M’. 😆

  31. #31 by Mohammed Munir on February 9, 2011 - 6:11 AM

    Khansahab …

    I am really surprised that you did not notice the ‘recent’ Pervez Musharraf mishap in UK.

    Anyways, I didn’t mean that you are ‘hiding’ it, rather ‘ignoring’ it. 😉

    Thanks for the useful information on any ex-convict’s life. Although, in the back of my mind, I was relating this question to Aamir’s case and weather he can officially play in Pakistan team after serving his 5 year’s ban period, but I really didn’t have any information on this issue (ex-convict’s life) and so I thought who better to ask from then a lawyer.

  32. #32 by Mohammed Munir on February 9, 2011 - 6:18 AM

    On Raymond Davis …

    Generally almost all Foreign Countries and specially The Great U.S. of A are always more than welcome to ‘walk-all-over’ our so called politicians.

    This, unfortunately, has been the storey of Pakistani. 😦

    This whole Raymnond Davis saga is allover the news these days and anyone and everyone is talking about it, so I would avoid going into these details once again. However, if anyone is interested to know in what actually happened and where the case stands as of now, then below two links will adequately narrate the incident.

    The latest news is that wife of one of the victim (who was recently married) committed suicide because she was inconsolable and she feared that she will never get justice.

    This is what she said before she died, ‘I do not expect any justice from this government,’ said Kanwal in a statement recorded by the doctor before she died. ‘That is why I want to kill myself.’

    The news article:

    Pakistani woman commits suicide after US shooting.

    While on the other hand, USA is putting maximum pressure on Pakistan to secure release of Raymond Davis.

    US steps up Pakistan pressure on shooting.

  33. #33 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2011 - 3:16 PM


    SOHAIL TANVIR OUT OF WORLD CUP squad and Junaid khan is in his place. Former Test spinner and selector Iqbal Qasim, who first picked him for junior level, believes he has immense potential and was impressed initially by his pace as well as stamina. Some observers, at that early stage, felt Khan might make it to the national side before Amir, though he hasn’t, they say, developed as swiftly. But he has been playing for the Pakistan A side regularly now, and is familiar at least with where Pakistan will play their first game of the World Cup: PROFILE

  34. #34 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2011 - 3:31 PM

    From day one during the NZ-PK series we have been ruing here on this blog to remove Sohail Tanvir from the team because of his pathetic bowling, the selectors have done that now but, they replaced him with Junaid Khan instead of the tested bowler Tanvir Ahmad. I dunno if this is a good move or not. Tanvir Ahmad is more accurate and bowled very well against South Africa in the UAE, yet he has not been considered for the ODI squad for the WC. This is so typical of the PCB and its selectors to label a player and ruin his career. The only reason I see Junaid in the team is he is a left arm medium pace bowler besides, he is young.

    Anyways, since Junaid Khan has been included in the team, I wish him good luck and hope he performs well and prove to be an asset in the team.

  35. #35 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2011 - 3:52 PM

    One of the key reasons, Asif, Aamir and Butt got the punishment by the book is because, the ICC tribunal felt that the trio did not show any remorse or contrition in their behaviour during the trial or at the hearing. Aamir may have got some lenient punishment had he cooperated with the ACSU, but he did not agree to give statements against his comrades in misery or, even against the bookie Mazhar Majeed who lured and baited the players. Here is an excerpt from Osman Samiuddin’s column.

    “ESPNcricinfo also understands that PCB officials, privately, tried repeatedly to convince Amir, who has been the main focus of public attention, to “cooperate with the ACSU” in a bid to have his sentence reduced. Three or four of the top board officials held several one-on-one meetings with Amir in the run-up to the January hearings but he refused. “Until the very last minute there were one-on-one meetings with Amir at neutral venues, trying to get him to cooperate with the ACSU,” a source privy to the meetings told ESPNcricinfo. “People tried repeatedly and very hard but he just didn’t agree.” Even his lawyer Karim is said to have tried to convince his client on several occasions but without success.”

    Right now they are all talking about the bans, I am wondering how the public and the players will react when the criminal case verdict would be announced later next month?

    As regards Munir’s question about ‘the convict’s life’ which he cleared in his second comment, I think it is a very valid and important question especially in view of the criminal charges. Because, once a criminal case proves that a person is guilty of the charges laid against him, not only he has to serve the jail sentence (I dunno how they will avoid the sentence?) but, their career as cricketers is over. Legally, technically, officially, morally, ethically in every ‘whichcully’ they cannot and MUST NOT play any cricket for Pakistan and neither should they be allowed to work as cricket commentators or experts like Wasim Akram, Waqar Younus are doing at the moment. Justice Qayyum Report is very clear on this yet these players are being treated as ex-greats and celebrities.

    The Pakistani media is so pathetic that they are trying to portray Aamir as a hero i.e., only because they know the sentiments of the people and like to play with it as they can sell his story to the public and gain some cheap attention from cheap journalism. Wait and see that these TV companies will invite him for a TV talk show and try to make some fast bucks while the subject is hot. I think it is the PCB’s job here to warn the media not to turn them as heroes, the best way in my opinion would be to make an official announcement that, they have imposed LIFE BANS on these players. This way, the story will be dead and finished forever and not only will the PCB gain some lost respect in the eyes of its own people but, internationally they will be respected as well and that will enhance the image of Pakistan.

  36. #36 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2011 - 4:31 PM

    ANOTHER BREAKING NEWS …………………………………


    LA’HORE: Former Pakistan cricket captain Salman Butt, banned for 10 years this week by an anti-corruption tribunal, said Wednesday he had signed up to give expert TV commentary at the World Cup.

    Butt was banned by the International Cricket Council (ICC) along with pace bowlers Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Aamer following spot-fixing charges related to the Lord’s Test against England last August.

    The 26-year-old Butt will give expert views for Pakistan’s Channel 5 station at the the World Cup.

    “I have signed a contract with a television channel to do expert commentary,” Butt told AFP.

    “As I am not playing in the event I thought it was worth participating as an expert.” A representative of Channel 5 confirmed to AFP the broadcaster had signed Butt.

  37. #37 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2011 - 4:41 PM

    What kind of a country is this and what kind of people are these? I was once a Pakistani and am ashamed to be called one now because of the people and the system that is prevailing in the country now. How can they allow SALMAN BUTT to give comments as a cricket expert on TV channels when he is proved to be a culprit, a ring leader, a cheat and a person who brought disgrace to the nation? Aren’t these media companies ashamed of stooping so low? And, what kinda expert comments will he be giving? He has openly criticized the Pakistani skipper Shahid Afridi as a clueless captain and backed Misbah to be made as a captain. Hence his comments against his own home team would be very biased and one sided. He will also spit venom against Waqar Younus and Shahid Afridi for their statements to the ICC during the trial. So, what kind of fairness one expects from a crook whose main aim is to make money by hook or by crook? And, what has he got to give to someone? Tips on how to fix a match? Tricks on how to entice and lure his own young bowlers to bowl deliberate no-balls to make money?


  38. #38 by khansahab on February 9, 2011 - 5:48 PM

    This is hilarious. Javed A Khan, please watch this with volume and everyone else must watch it.

    This is Pakistani police interviewing “Raymond Davas”. This must be the most paindoo police anywhere in the world.

  39. #39 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2011 - 6:27 PM


    I can’t understand a word of it.

  40. #40 by khansahab on February 9, 2011 - 6:30 PM

    Raymond Davis must be wondering why his surname is being pronounced as “davas”

    Like how Asif is pronounced, “Asaf”.

  41. #41 by khansahab on February 9, 2011 - 11:27 PM

    Salman Butt was ‘under ICC surveillance’ at World Twenty20

    Salman Butt was under surveillance by the International Cricket Council’s anti-corruption unit before the News of the World sting operation that led three Pakistan players to be banned for spot-fixing.

    The full judgment of the ICC tribunal outlines text messages and phone calls between Butt and his agent, Mazhar Majeed, during the World Twenty20 in the Caribbean last year that made the Pakistan captain a central figure in the ICC’s anti-corruption investigations.

    Discussions between Butt and Majeed during the World Twenty20 did not form part of the evidence that resulted in an ICC tribunal banning Butt for 10 years, five of them suspended, and meting out a seven-year ban on Mohammad Asif, two of them suspended, and a five-year ban on his fast-bowling partner Mohammad Amir.

    However, the BBC has reported that the ICC tribunal’s judgment discloses further texts and phone calls between Majeed and Butt that had already alerted ICC anti‑corruption investigators.

    Investigators were examining communications surrounding the World Twenty20 match between Pakistan and South Africa on 10 May when Pakistan won the group match by 11 runs. Suspicion in this tournament has also been directed towards Pakistan’s semi-final defeat when Australia pulled off a dramatic recovery.

    According to the BBC, the tribunal, chaired by Michael Beloff QC, refers in its report to “suspicious” calls from Majeed, and says: “On their face the messages appear to reflect a pre-existing discussion about spot-fixing.” It adds: “The episode in spring in St Lucia appears to have been the overture to the main performance in England in the summer.”

    What is not stated is whether the ICC’s suspicions were in any way a prelude to the News of the World’s sting operation. There has never been evidence of collusion.

    It was because the newspaper exposé was a trial run, and did not actually involve placing bets with bookmakers, that the tribunal felt unable to ban Butt, described in the report as “the ringmaster”, or the two fast bowlers for life. The judgment says: “Fortunately for them an [un]promising career in spot-fixing was nipped in the bud by the News of the World investigation … it was a trial run. The purpose was not to influence any outcome or to serve as the basis for betting.”

  42. #42 by khansahab on February 10, 2011 - 12:31 AM

    I generally browse several newspapers daily and I have not come across this “mishap” of Musharraf. So whatever it is I believe it would be a very trivial issue.

    Aamer is eligible to play international cricket after 5 years according to ICC. It is likely he will be guilty in the criminal case as well. What happens as a result of that may be a fine, a prison sentence or both. Since he is already banned for 5 years I don’t think the Crown Prosecution Service will ban him. They may attach a suspended sentence. He may be eligible to play county cricket. There is a whole range of possibilities.

  43. #43 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 10, 2011 - 1:55 AM

    For the last 14 years i.e., since Afridi has been playing cricket, I have never ever heard a word of praise for him from Imran Khan. I may be wrong, so I ask everyone to let me know if I am wrong and they may kindly provide a link of the news item in which Imran Khan has praised Afridi as a bowler, batsman, all-rounder or even as a captain.


    Is there a law or a ruling against criminal offenders playing for the their country at national or international level? As far as I know a person with criminal record is not provided with any job or responsibility in any organization be it government, semi-government or even in private organizations like, banks, financial institutions, insurance companies etc. So, how come these players when proved guilty by the criminal courts would be able to play ?

  44. #44 by khansahab on February 10, 2011 - 7:02 PM

    No extra pressure of playing in India: Afridi

    LAHORE: Pakistan ODI captain Shahid Afridi said his team is all prepared to play on the Indian soil if it qualifies for the knock-out stage in the World Cup and there would not be any extra pressure on the players.

    “We are used to the pressures of playing in India and if we have to play our knockout matches in India we are prepared for it,” Afridi said in a press conference on Thursday.

    The all-rounder also felt that if Pakistan and India ended up playing each other in the World Cup it would be great for the sport and for Indo-Pak relations.

    “A World Cup final against India in Mumbai would be an ideal finish to the World Cup because I have always believed that cricketing ties between the two countries have always helped in bringing the two nations closer to each other,” said Afridi.

    He also added that the players were now thinking about going to India and playing for the first time since the Mumbai terror attacks.

    “A lot has happened since then but in the past also we have gone to India and played in tense conditions and we can handle it. But these things will come later. Right now our focus is on keeping the momentum going for the mega-event.”

    Although Afridi said there were no clear favorites in this World Cup, but admitted that India and Sri Lanka are the potential threats to Pakistan’s chances of winning the Cup.

    Meanwhile, he said there was no extra pressure on him because of Pakistan Cricket Board’s decision in delaying naming the captain for the World Cup.

    “I don’t think about these things and even in New Zealand the captain and coach just told me to concentrate on cricket. That is what I did. But obviously it is a big honour for me to lead my country in a major event like the World Cup.

    Pakistan’s coach Waqar Younis said Shahid Afridi had done a great job as captain in the last one year but unfortunately in Pakistan until a captain won a trophy he was under scrutiny.

    “But I would request everyone to just let this issue be dead and back the team for the World Cup because right now we don’t need any controversies but the prayers and well wishes of the people and media,” said Afridi.

  45. #45 by khansahab on February 10, 2011 - 7:07 PM

    Miandad urges banned trio to expose people behind betting

    KARACHI: Former Pakistan Test captain Javed Miandad urged the banned trio of Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Aamer to expose the people involved in illegal betting and corruption in international cricket.

    Miandad, who is the director-general cricket in the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), said he felt saddened by the damage the spot-fixing scandal had done to the image of Pakistan cricket.

    “I am hurt by the damage caused to our cricket and our image by the sanctions imposed on Salman, Asif and Aamer, but it is not possible they were working alone with Mazhar Majeed,” Miandad said.

    I am convinced that there is an entire mafia working behind spreading the menace of spot-fixing in our sport,” Miandad, a veteran of 124 Tests, said.

    “I don’t believe that only three players can do spot-fixing. I suspect that a lot of other people are involved in this racket,” he added.

    Miandad urged the three players, who have faced sanctions from the International Cricket Council anti-corruption tribunal, to co-operate with the authorities in exposing the mafia.

    “These three should expose this mafia and help the PCB as because of them, Pakistan cricket has got a bad name.”

    The former national coach said that he would soon meet with the PCB Chairman Ijaz Butt to discuss some proposals that would ensure such incidents didn’t take place in future.

    Miandad also noted that in order to stop the spot-fixing menace, authorities needed to carry out a widespread operation in the cricket world and expose the players who are corrupt.

    Butt was last week banned for 10 years by the anti-corruption tribunal on charges of spot-fixing, while pacer Mohammad Asif was banned for seven years and Mohammad Aamer for five years by the tribunal.

    Miandad had no doubt that the three players had let Pakistan cricket and the PCB down by not admitting their guilt early on when they were accused of spot-fixing by the ‘News of the World’ newspaper.

    These players should have told the PCB the entire truth instead of continuing to insist they were innocent,” he said.

  46. #46 by khansahab on February 10, 2011 - 8:45 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Whenever Afridi has been captain Imran Khan has supported him. I think only recently, did Imran Khan express neutrality as between Misbah and Afridi. Maybe Imran has a soft spot for Misbah because Misbah is also a Niazi from Mianwali.

    It is disappointing that barely anyone has praised Afridi following Pakistan’s series victory against NZ.

  47. #47 by khansahab on February 10, 2011 - 9:30 PM

    I don’t listen to Naats and Hamds, but I came across this Hamd by this guy called Khursheed Ahmed. His voice is great and he can recite so well without the need for music. His voice is very melodious in itself.

  48. #48 by khansahab on February 10, 2011 - 10:52 PM

    “Razzaq is up there with Pathan and Watson” : Akram

    New Delhi: Even as the cricketing world goes bonkers over Yusuf Pathan and Shane Watson`s all-round abilities, former Pakistan captain Wasim Akram tips countryman Abdul Razzak to hog the limelight in the forthcoming World Cup.

    “In spite of his great experience, he is relatively young and a proven match winner. If Razzak can be a bit more mentally tough and physically robust, he will definitely end up as the player of the tournament,” said Akram.

    “He is definitely up there with Shane Watson and Yusuf Pathan, but is somewhat lacking in his bowling skills. Razzak will have to focus on pace and improve his fielding, too,” he added.

    Emphasising further on the role of all-rounders in a big tournament like the World Cup, Akram said, “They have a great role to play and the teams that have them will be at a great advantage. There was a time, when Imran (Khan), Kapil Dev, Ian Botham and Richard Hadlee would vie among each other for the No.1 all-rounder tag.”

    “In this World Cup, it will be among Watson, Yusuf and Razzaq. These three can make or break their team`s fortunes,” he said.

  49. #49 by khansahab on February 10, 2011 - 11:08 PM

    Abdul Razzaq used to play like Shane Watson in 1999. Wasim Akram is thinking 12 years in the past.

  50. #50 by khansahab on February 10, 2011 - 11:17 PM

    I have a feeling Sachin Tendulkar will retire from cricket if his performance is above average in the World Cup.

  51. #51 by khansahab on February 10, 2011 - 11:22 PM

    Virat Kohli is an up and coming ODI player for India. In matches that India has won while chasing, he averages 73. Otherwise he averages 60 in 2nd innings of ODI’s.

    He has shown he can cope with pressure but will he be able to cope in the WC?

  52. #52 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2011 - 1:07 AM

    I don’t understand why Wasim Akram did not mention Shahid Afridi’s name instead of Abdul Razzaq? And then, he is highlighting his deficiencies that he is NOT robust and, NOT pacey and his fielding is NOT that good and YET he is considering him as a candidate for POTT. Both Wasim and Waqar open their mouth without thinking.

    I think Jacques Kallis is gonna be the POTT especially if SA plays final.

  53. #53 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2011 - 1:19 AM


    There is a girl called Mehmoudah Rahman, she wrote a very nice letter to Mohammed Aamir, it is on her blog and also published by the daily DAWN. I think she has stirred the conscience of Aamir i.e., if he has read and if he is capable of understanding it. 😀 Unfortunately most of the Pakistani players are paindoo and she advised Aamir to consider this 5 year ban as a blessing and focus on studies and get a university degree or something. That is exactly what we have been emphasizing here on this blog for the last so many years about educating our players and not only here on this blog but, on Pakspin when we used to write. And some paindoos used to laugh at us by questioning how can education make them a better player? It is not that they need to speak Kings English but, education not only enhances the knowledge or makes them a better person but, it also enhances their abilities to know their own weaknesses and correct them and to control their emotions i.e., when the coach or an expert highlights their mistakes then they should pay attention whereas, some of our players — not just Shahid Afridi — go out and play without applying their brains. Besides, these players are the ambassadors of the country and they should know how to behave in public, media and also when dealing with shady characters like Mazhar Majeed etc. Otherwise, they will keep on bringing disgrace to the nation.

  54. #54 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2011 - 6:31 PM

    Afridi has sought advise from Imran Khan and Wasim Akram before the team’s departure to Bangladesh and they have both said the following:

    He (Khan) told me to be prepared for injuries and other problems that could hamper our performance but we shouldn’t let them discourage us.

    Wasim Akram, who led Pakistan to the final of the 1999 World Cup, advised Afridi to support his players and avoid criticising them in public in order to maintain a good atmosphere in the dressing room.

  55. #55 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2011 - 9:30 PM

    When Pakistan play those warm matches in BD, they will know where they stand with this team, because of late BD has been in good form and they defeated NZ 4-0 in their last ODI series. whereas, Pakistan were able to defeat NZ 3-2. Playing against Bangladesh in Bangladesh will be different from playing against Bangladesh in India and Sri Lanka.

    I am glad that they dropped Sohail Tanvir from the squad because he was singlehandedly making Pakistan lose against NZ. I still believe that Tanvir Ahmad should have been included in the squad in place of Shoaib Akhtar. Some people say he can be very effective in the subcontinent pitches but, I have my doubts. He bowls too many short pitched balls and bowls way outside the off stump which gives any Lulloo Punjoo batsman to take a swing at his bowling. If he bowls against Sehwag and Tendulkar, they will murder him. Finally after a lot of resistance he has agreed to bowl with a shorter run up, now he should pay more heed towards bowling yorkers rather than short pitched balls.

  56. #56 by M . Y. Kasim on February 11, 2011 - 9:38 PM


    Thank you so much Khansahab for posting the above Na’at.

    I am not trying to boast or bragg but I heard this Na’at sitting beside Janab Khursheed Ahmed some 40 odd years ago and since then, I have become very fond of some Good and non-Bidda’a Na’ats (LOL).

    To test whether these are narrated by emotions or to gather Nazrana, you need to listen to it with an open mind and you will come to judge automatically. You dont have to be an expert in religion or Urdu language. In the beginning, I too had difficulty in comprehending the deep meanings and DUCKED under the bouncers but remembered the words and later on asked some close friends to clarify the meaning. That is how I developed the the taste.

    Turning back to cricket, I was glade Sohail Tanvir has been dropped from the team and that rookie youngster, Junaid Khan given a chance. I hope and pray he does not dissappoint us all his well-wishers like that almost 7′ tall Mohammad Irfan. Although I agree with most that the slot should have gone to Tanvir Ahmed from the beginning.

  57. #57 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2011 - 4:39 PM


    BIRMINGHAM: Former International Cricket Council president Ehsan Mani has branded the governing body “weak” for not doing more to prevent disgraced Pakistan batsman Salman Butt from taking up a World Cup media pundit role.
    Although the ICC is powerless to prevent a private Pakistan TV channel from hiring Butt, who was banned for five years on spot-fixing charges last week, Mani said they should have tried harder or voiced their disapproval.

    Instead Butt, the Pakistan captain during their tainted Test series in England last year, will be having his opinions broadcast to potentially millions in his homeland despite being banned from having any links with cricket.

    The ICC told Reuters on Saturday that since Butt is working for Pakistan’s Channel 5 which is a non-licensee or rights holder, they are powerless to prevent him from working for the broadcaster.

    “Legally, we have no jurisdiction,” said spokesman Sami-ul-Hasan.

    Butt will be banned from attending the event itself and will be voicing his opinions from the private channel’s studio back in Pakistan.

    “It’s wrong, the ICC is showing weak leadership and I am disappointed that it has not been tougher on this issue,” Mani told Reuters. “They could do much more.

    “The ICC should not be silent and should express its disapproval, at least to the Pakistan Cricket Board which may have more influence in the country.

    “A precedent has already been set on this by the ICC when (then chief executive) Malcolm Speed and I were in power and we stopped (Mohammad) Azharuddin from taking up a media role when he was banned.

    “We objected because we felt it was sending the wrong message out to millions of viewers that a banned cricketer can still be allowed to be paid for his opinions.

    “We spoke to the Indian board and let it be known to them that we were not impressed that a TV channel in their country was employing someone who was tainted.

    “The same principles should also have applied in this instance.”

    Butt was banned for 10 years at an ICC disciplinary hearing in Doha, Qatar, though five years of his ban were suspended.

    His former team-mates Mohammad Asif (seven years with two suspended) and Mohammad Amir (five years) were also banned for their parts in a cheating scandal that rocked world cricket last year.

  58. #58 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2011 - 4:43 PM

    KARACHI: Pakistan cricket chief Ijaz Butt has officially requested a review over fast-rising paceman Mohammad Amir’s five-year ban on charges of corruption, he said……………………… more on

    Ijaz Butt has never done any good thing in his life, yet he became the chairman of the PCB and as a Chairman he did everything wrong. Now, he is asking the ICC to review Aamir’s ban. WHY??????

    He should stop Salman Butt from commentating for the private TV channel in Pakistan during the WC. This is another disgrace for Pakistan that a crook who has been banned for 10 years is being rewarded financially to comment as an expert. Shame on them.

  59. #59 by Mohammed Munir on February 13, 2011 - 8:29 AM

    Building Undue Pressure …

    I really fail to understand what Pakistani team and especially the captain is trying to prove by making statements like ‘Pakistan shall reach semis’, and ‘hoping for India / Pakistan final in Mumbai’. In my humble opinion this will not serve any purpose, other then creating ‘undue pressure’ on the players and captain himself.

    Pakistani management and players (even some ex-players) start talking (boasting) much before their performances are in place and this is not a good idea these days. Discounting the strategy and this-all-may-be-a-planned-move by team management to boost the morals and prepare our players mentally, but unfortunately such over confident comments make us, the fans, into start believing that Pakistan have ‘serious chances’ of winning the cup or even making to the semis, which we do not. 😦

    Pardon me for sounding a bit pessimistic here, but we should come out of the fool’s paradise and stop this ‘fishful thinking’.

    Although, the World Cup schedule is such this time that of the top eight teams are technically just one game away from the semi-finals, but still the minnows in each group will not be taking it without putting-up a fight for sure and it will need some efforts to qualify to the second stage (quarter-finals). Secondly, our team/ players had been going through enough already and expecting to win the cup is a bit too much from them.

    To preclude ourselves of pain and anguish at the end of it all, I suggest that it will be suitable for Pakistani fans to keep their feet firmly ground and keep our enthusiasm and optimism in strict check.

  60. #60 by khansahab on February 13, 2011 - 11:58 AM

    Shah Mahmood Qureshi, former Foreign Minister of Pakistan has been sacked from Zardari’s new Cabinet.

    There are rumours he was sacked because of his tough stance on Raymond Davis and his close friendship with Pervez Musharraf.

  61. #61 by khansahab on February 13, 2011 - 5:43 PM

    Cricketer Sarfaraz Nawaz joins MQM

    ISLAMABAD: Former test cricketer Sarfaraz Nawaz on Tuesday announced to venture into politics by joining the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM).

    He announced this at a press conference at the National Press Club, Islamabd, where he was accompanied by MQM’s senior leaders Dr Farooq Sattar and Babar Ghauri.

    “We warmly welcome Sarfaraz Nawaz in the party,” Sattar said, adding that the MQM will soon emerge as a major national party.

    Nawaz met MQM chief Altaf Hussain around four years ago. He has also served as the sports adviser to the Punjab government, Sattar said while giving a short introduction of the cricketer-turned-politician. Sattar also extended Nawaz an invitation to visit Nine-Zero.

    “I had met Altaf Hussain four years back in London. I was impressed by the policies of the party and so decided to join the MQM,” Nawaz said.

    When asked whether he joined the MQM in rivalry of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf chief Imran Khan, Nawaz questioned Khan’s political standing while Babar Ghauri clarified that the MQM has no enmity with anyone.

    Farooq Sattar said that Nawaz’s inclusion in the party was a good omen as people from different walks of life have started joining the MQM. “The MQM is actively working for the downtrodden sector of the society,” he added.

    Answering a question about rejoining the cabinet, he said that currently the MQM was prioritising taking up economic issues with the government and does not think this is the right time to join the cabinet.

  62. #62 by khansahab on February 13, 2011 - 6:42 PM

    we have a new thread…

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