Basit Ali has become a renowned commentator but speaks very oddly at times

The saying is, “Like father, Like son” and recently Basit Ali affirmed this by calling Yuvraj Singh, “Yograj”. You might wonder who or what Yograj is. Yograj Singh is Yuvraj Singh’s father. Yograj played international cricket in 1981 when Basit Ali was 11 years old. Then, why would Basit call Yuvraj, “Yograj”? He did not do this once or twice, but a few times.

There is a streak of oddity, madness and uncouthness that runs through the minds of some Pakistani commentators. Commentary is the last job these people should do but unfortunately the media deems them fittest for this role.

What these commentators and their promoters don’t realise is that, there is an international audience that observes what they are saying. Their stupid and inappropriate comments and poor command of the English language brings much disgrace to the country.

Basit Ali seemingly has no sense of punctuation or pronunciation either. So, he says, “GROUNDman” instead of “groundSman” and FLATE instead of “flat”.

Another commentator who has disgraced the nation is Zaheer Abbas. Zaheer was relentness whenever we saw him in

Zaheer Abbas- dull, boring, lacklustre

the commentary box. On occasions he appeared to have said, “townty” instead of “twenty”. Zaheer also appear to lack any enthusiasm when he provides commentary. His tone is agonisingly dull and there is no substance in what he says. Zaheer also once called Younis and Yousuf, “the 2 Yoos” which led to Ian Bishop enquiring what it could mean. Zaheer looked confused and could not answer the question. If all this is not enough then Zaheer constantly criticises the PCB management and coach. Surely, he wants to become the PCB Chairman or the coach? Does he deserve that kind of post? It is also believed that Zaheer Abbas pronounced the word, “decision” as, “di ci yen”.

Wasim Akram- a disappointment in the commentary box

Wasim Akram is not just a voluntary coach for the Indian cricket team, bowling coach of Kolkota Knight Riders or Indian celebrity and showbiz star- he is also a commentator. Wasim’s voice is nasal and his grammar is substandard. Wasim can’t speak Urdu properly, let alone English. It is pathetic to see such a celebrated Pakistani cricketer disgracing the nation in the commentary box.

Finally, there is the big daddy of English commentary. It is difficult to attribute description to Waqar Younis’s English. Waqar seems to have created his own language. His accent is a mixture of Australian English, Pakistani English and Punjabi. Waqar’s problem is not just that his grammar or pronunciation is poor. Waqar has this uncanny habit for using wrong names for people. Why would he call Jayasuriya, “Mohammad Jayasuriya”? Why would he call Vettori, “Danish Vettori”? Why would he insert the letter “a” before everything to the extent that, Danish Kaneria is called, “a Danish” or the words, “room”, “grass” etc become “a room” and “a grass”? This is more than merely amusing. It is unfathomable, it is a condition, a psyche unknown to man. It is a state

Afridi likes to speak but needs to speak correctly

of mind that no science, rationality or logic can explain.

This strange use of the English language has filtered through to players as well. Shahid Afridi is the latest victim of his dangerous ailment. Afridi, when explaining how Abdul Qadir had assisted him with tips, said, “Qadir bhai help me and he gave me a good time”. Lately Afridi has learned some tricks from his coach because he said, “a moisture” and “a confidence”.

The objective of this thread is not to make fun of these people, but to raise awareness about how their poor English brings disgrace to the nation. Bangladeshi players speak better English than Pakistani players. Why is this? There is no point in speaking English- Pakistani commentators and players must speak Urdu or whatever language they are most comfortable in. As regards Pakistani senior cricketers and commentators, they need to stay away from commentary because their comments are absolutely unhelpful and devoid of substance. Pakistan and Pakistani cricket fans deserve better.

Not just the king of reverse swing, but also the king of commentary

  1. #1 by khansahab on April 28, 2011 - 7:11 PM

    new thread

  2. #2 by khansahab on April 28, 2011 - 8:03 PM

    Sri Lanka fix matches : Ex-skipper

    Former Sri Lanka cricket captain Hashan Tillekaratne has made a sensational revelation that match fixing has been common in Sri Lanka’s cricket and promised that he would come out with the names of the responsible persons in the near future.

    Tillkaratne who led Sri Lanka in Ten Tests between 2003 and 2004 said that he could vouch with responsibility that Match fixing has been a problem in Sri Lanka’s cricket since 1992.

    “I can tell this in agreement with my conscience. Match fixing is not something that started happening yesterday or today. According to my knowledge, it happened since 1992. I say this with great responsibility” said Tillekaratne who played 83 Tests and 200 One Day Internationals for Sri Lanka between 1986 and 2004.

    “I am not saying that this match (The world cup final) was fixed. But anyway match fixing is something which has been in this country over a period of time. This has spread like a cancer today” Tillekaratne who has been a life member of the prestigious MCC since 2008 explained.

    “There were threats of this issue being exposed during various times. But it was pushed down by giving money to various people. If the people who were responsible for that are listening to this, I state this today with great responsibility, I will shortly reveal the names of those responsible” Tillekaratne promised when he appeared in a TV talk show after the World Cup.

    “Why? Because there is a huge following of people who love cricket, and this is a side which they don’t know about” Tillekaratne explained.

    “This has been happening since 1992 and I know all the people who are connected to it.”

    “I say this with responsibility. It is just like a relay. I run my lap and hand over the baton to you, you complete your lap and give it to another. This is a network. No one can ever go out of it and no one can come into it”

    “This situation was always there. When it came out from time to time, it was quietly swept under the carpet. If someone doesn’t intervene and stop this menace, within another two-three years in this country, with these politics, with these corrupt administrators, I believe this country won’t be second to Pakistan in the near future” added the cricketer turned politician.

    Tillekaratne who said he did not imply categorically that the recent world cup final was fixed, however expressed his reservations about the selections.

    “The world cup team was selected on the (January) 7th. I questioned at a TV show why this team was picked on the day before the IPL auction. The IPL auction was on the (January) 8th. Then it was said that we have time when we pick the team before the IPL auction and it was said that we have enough time as there were ten more days. Those were the excuses given”.

    “Also at the provincial tournament on the (January) 11th, 12th and 13th, we had the quarter finals, semi finals and the finals. If Sri Lanka Cricket conducted a tournament, we could have watched those tournaments and picked the team two or three days later. If that happened, I believe another two or three players could have replaced some of the players. I had my doubts whether it was the best team that was picked” Tillekaratne said.

    “In this country, there is a side which you don’t know but I know. We discussed this. Inquire into this. Anyone can investigate this. Why was the team picked before the IPL?” questioned Tillekaratne who was a key member of the 1996 World Cup winning team.

    Tillekaratne was also circumspect about the extensive changes in the team for the final. “Why were four players changed for this match? Those are questions that should be asked. Arjuna (Ranatunga) spoke about this, we who have played cricket talk about this. We were playing an entirely different side”

    “Why was Mendis removed to put another spinner, Kapugedara was never among runs but he was chosen to replace Chamara Silva. It is not fair, is it?” he questioned.

  3. #3 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 28, 2011 - 9:07 PM

    Asoka D’ Silva must be BANNED from umpiring, he gave HAMMAD AZAM out LBW when there was a THICK INSIDE EDGE. He was already stripped the main umpiring role during the WC for lose decisions.

    Sala he is such an idiot that he shattered the youngster’s dream of making his first 50 and what a SIX Hammad Azam hit. It was of the bowling off Andre Russel and it went on the ROOF TOP OF the biggest pavilion.

  4. #4 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 28, 2011 - 10:18 PM


    You may have missed a few gems of Zaheer Abbass, he says “KAY-LISS & HAY-RISS” for Kallis and Harris.

    Today, Afridi added another “A” He said about Misbah I think, “He needed “A” time to settle and he got a “A” time.

    When Bishop asked Afridi a question: “Pakistan team is not playing at home but, playing all their international matches abroad, do you think this has bonded the team so well?”

    Afridi totally misunderstood the question and talked about playing in different countries and on different pitches and no mention of “gelling or bonding the team,” poor Akhroat. He was more worried about “Coaches” coming HARD on him in the dressing room. 😀

    Prior to the match when it was raining, Bishop and Ramiz were talking about Pakistan team and Bishop said, “Ramiz you have the honour of playing under two great players, two great captains, Imran Khan and Javed Miandad, what did you learn from them? He said, “Imran is a 3 in ONE, a great leader, a great captain and a great motivator and blah, blah, blah…………. AND NOT A WORD OR EVEN THE NAME OF JAVED MIANDAD THAT HE MENTIONED. Such a biased Paindoo Ramiz is.

    And, khansahab

    On the new thread you have placed a pretty decent photo of that Chakram, he deserves nothing but that “Sir Pay Tilak, aur naal Jai Ram Ji Ki.” Sala desh Drohi.

  5. #5 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 29, 2011 - 1:14 AM

    Iqbal Qasim criticises Holding’s comment
    By Mohammad Yaqoob | From the Newspaper
    (3 hours ago) Today DAWN

    Holding cannot see with naked eye whether wrist or elbow is being used to bowl ‘doosra’: Iqbal Qasim.—File photo

    LAHORE: Former Test cricketer and national chief selector Iqbal Qasim has criticised Michael Holding, the celebrated West Indies fast bowler, for challenging the legality of ‘doosra’ delivery.

    “First of all, Holding cannot see with naked eye whether wrist or elbow is being used to bowl ‘doosra’. And secondly, it is not only Pakistan’s off-spinners but also Sri Lankans and Indians who have been bowling this delivery for many years. And these spin bowlers are playing very effective role for their teams with no complaint coming from any quarter,” said Iqbal while talking to Dawn.

    Iqbal added Sri Lankan spinners Muttiah Muralitharan and Ajantha Mendis, bowled ‘doosra’ without changing their action, most probably, with the help of fingers and wrist.

    “I am not defending ‘doosra’ but only want that it would have been better, had Holding suggested the ICC to check the legality of the delivery if he has some doubts,” he said.

    He reckoned the International Cricket Council (ICC) was the best judge to declare ‘doosra’ legal or illegal delivery, adding Holding could only suggest the game’s governing body to take necessary steps to decide the status of the delivery.

    According to a recent media report, Holding said: “My belief regarding the ‘doosra’ is very clear, I don’t think it can be bowled legally.

    “I find it difficult to believe any human being can bowl that delivery, with his wrist alone, the elbow has to be used for the power. It’s a matter of how much elbow power the bowler uses and the ICC obviously believes some bowlers use less than the 15 degrees and others don’t, as only some bowlers actions are questioned and reported.”

    The statement from Holding comes at a time when Pakistan’s spin trio of Saeed Ajmal, Shahid Afridi and Mohammad Hafeez have shared eight wickets among them in the first two ODIs of the ongoing five-match series against the West Indies.

    Iqbal further said Holding should not raise the point at this stage as Pakistan bowlers were in the Caribbean as guests.

  6. #6 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 29, 2011 - 1:18 AM


    I heard Ramez saying on the TV to Holding that you cannot bowl a DOOSRA without using your elbow and that gave ammunition to Michael Holding. He kept on BAKWASING all along during the time he was commentating, as if he has nothing else but a GRUDGE against Pakistan.

    And this is not the first time Michael Holding is blabbering against Pakistan, I reckon he compared the ARMS of Shoaib Akhtar with RP Singh and kept blabbering that both have the same kinda arm but, Shoaib JERKS whereas, RP doesn’t.

  7. #7 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 6:11 AM

    Afridi hits out at ICC’s ODI ranking system

    Karachi, April 28 (IANS) Pakistan one-day captain Shahid Afridi Thursday hit out at the rankings system of the International Cricket Council (ICC).

    Afridi expressed his reservations about the current rankings system after getting to know that Pakistan will not earn a point even if they end up winning the one-day series against the West Indies 5-0. They lead the series 2-0 and are sixth in the ODI rankings.

    ‘I can’t understand this system. There should be some advantage for the visiting sides as winning a series is never easy for them no matter who they are playing against,’ Afridi told The Express Tribune.

    If Pakistan win by 4-1 or a 3-2 margin, they will end losing points in the ranking ladder.

    ‘It’s really difficult to prosper under the current ranking system. I have little clue what it is based on,’ said Afridi.

    Afridi, however, said that his team is focused on winning the series. ‘We will give our best to seal the series, which is our main focus. It will boost the morale of the young team.’

    Former Sri Lankan captain Kumar Sangakkara had also criticised the ranking system by calling it ‘unfair’.

  8. #8 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 6:13 AM

    Misbah played a better innings this time but again took it right down to the wire. What if Wahab Riaz had been dismissed cheaply? Junaid and Ajmal can’t bat at all.

    This strategy from Misbah will only work 25% of the times. That is why he ends up losing so many matches. But in Pakistan, the amount of matches you lose is disregarded completely as long as you win one match here and there.

  9. #9 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 6:34 AM


    Madhuri aur Waheeda Rehman ki dhajjian urr gayeen!!

    Inn Khatoon ka goya kya naak naksha hai merey bhai………I present to you, Penelope Cruz, Paz Vega, Rose Byrne and Malin Akerman


  10. #10 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 6:57 AM

    Kya tha aur kya bann gaya……

    A talented young cricketer from Sialkot who rose under the ranks under Inzamam, started playing politics and became involved in controversies, performance declined so much that he was losing matches, then was unable to satisfy PCB about his integrity, now can’t even play club cricket in his own country.

    Malik’s tryst with Delhi’s club cricket

    “Kaun Sa Malik? Woh Pakistan captain? Woh khel raha hain yahan (That former Pakistan captain is playing here?),” Sarandeep Singh asked about the star attraction, sitting at one corner of the Turf Cricket Academy in Pitampura, away from the glare of the newly-installed US-imported floodlights. The former Indian off-spinner wasn’t the only one surprised at Shoaib Malik’s presence for a T20 club match in Delhi over the weekend, several eyes followed Malik, who was relishing his pizza while awaiting his turn to play the day night match.

    Malik played a stellar role for his team, hosts Turf Academy, by slamming an unbeaten 123 in just 57 balls that contained 10 blistering sixes and six boundaries. “I haven’t held the bat for almost 25 days now, have been busy with some other commitments so it felt good to score some runs. It’s a nice experience, especially with the kind of competitiveness you have in club cricket here,” says Malik.

  11. #11 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 9:11 AM

    India’s Muslims in Crisis
    By Aryn Baker

    TIME magazine

    The disembodied voice was chilling in its rage. A gunman, holed up in the Oberoi Trident hotel in Mumbai (formerly Bombay), where some 40 people had been taken hostage, told an Indian news channel that the attacks were revenge for the persecution of Muslims in India. “We love this as our country, but when our mothers and sisters were being killed, where was everybody?” he asked via telephone. No answer came. But then he probably wasn’t expecting one.

    The roots of Muslim rage run deep in India, nourished by a long-held sense of injustice over what many Indian Muslims believe is institutionalized discrimination against the country’s largest minority group. The disparities between Muslims, who make up 13.4% of the population, and India’s Hindus, who hover at around 80%, are striking. There are exceptions, of course, but generally speaking, Muslim Indians have shorter life spans, worse health, lower literacy levels and lower-paying jobs. Add to that toxic brew the lingering resentment over 2002’s anti-Muslim riots in the state of Gujarat. The riots, instigated by Hindu nationalists, killed some 2,000 people, most of them Muslims. To this day, few of the perpetrators have been convicted. (See pictures of the terrorist shootings in Mumbai.)

    The huge gap between Muslims and Hindus will continue to haunt India’s — and neighboring Pakistan’s — progress toward peace and prosperity. But before intercommunal relations can improve, there are even bigger problems that must first be worked out: the schism in subcontinental Islam and the religion’s place and role in modern India and Pakistan. It is a crisis 150 years in the making.

    The Beginning of the Problem
    On the afternoon of March 29, 1857, Mangal Pandey, a handsome, mustachioed soldier in the East India Company’s native regiment, attacked his British lieutenant. His hanging a week later sparked a subcontinental revolt known to Indians as the first war of independence and to the British as the Sepoy Mutiny. Retribution was swift, and though Pandey was a Hindu, it was the subcontinent’s Muslims, whose Mughal King nominally held power in Delhi, who bore the brunt of British rage. The remnants of the Mughal Empire were dismantled, and 500 years of Muslim supremacy on the subcontinent came to a halt.

    Muslim society in India collapsed. The British imposed English as the official language. The impact was cataclysmic. Muslims went from near 100% literacy to 20% within a half-century. The country’s educated Muslim élite was effectively blocked from administrative jobs in the government. Between 1858 and 1878, only 57 out of 3,100 graduates of Calcutta University — then the center of South Asian education — were Muslims. While discrimination by both Hindus and the British played a role, it was as if the whole of Muslim society had retreated to lick its collective wounds.

    Out of this period of introspection, two rival movements emerged to foster an Islamic ascendancy. Revivalist groups blamed the collapse of their empire on a society that had strayed too far from the teachings of the Koran. They promoted a return to a purer form of Islam, modeled on the life of the Prophet Muhammad. Others embraced the modern ways of their new rulers, seeking Muslim advancement through the pursuit of Western sciences, culture and law. From these movements two great Islamic institutions were born: Darul Uloom Deoband in northern India, rivaled only by Al Azhar University in Cairo for its teaching of Islam, and Aligarh Muslim University, a secular institution that promoted Muslim culture, philosophy and languages but left religion to the mosque. These two schools embody the fundamental split that continues to divide Islam in the subcontinent today. “You could say that Deoband and Aligarh are husband and wife, born from the same historical events,” says Adil Siddiqui, information coordinator for Deoband. “But they live at daggers drawn.”

    The campus at Deoband is only a three-hour drive from New Delhi through the modern megasuburb of Noida. Strip malls and monster shopping complexes have consumed many of the mango groves that once framed the road to Deoband, but the contemporary world stops at the gate. The courtyards are packed with bearded young men wearing long, collared shirts and white caps. The air thrums with the voices of hundreds of students reciting the Koran from open-door classrooms.

    Founded in 1866, the Deoband school quickly set itself apart from other traditional madrasahs, which were usually based in the home of the village mosque’s prayer leader. Deoband’s founders, a group of Muslim scholars from New Delhi, instituted a regimented system of classrooms, coursework, texts and exams. Instruction is in Urdu, Persian and Arabic, and the curriculum closely follows the teachings of the 18th century Indian Islamic scholar Mullah Nizamuddin Sehalvi. Graduates go on to study at Cairo’s Al Azhar or the Islamic University of Medina in Saudi Arabia, or they found their own Deobandi institutions.

    Today, more than 9,000 Deobandi madrasahs are scattered throughout India, Afghanistan and Pakistan, most infamously the Dara-ul-Uloom Haqaniya Akora Khattak, near Peshawar, Pakistan, where Mullah Mohammed Omar and several other leaders of Afghanistan’s Taliban first tasted a life lived in accordance with Shari’a. Siddiqui visibly stiffens when those names are brought up. They have become synonymous with Islamic radicalism, and Siddiqui is careful to dissociate his institution from those who carry on its traditions, without actually condemning their actions. “Our books are being taught there,” he says. “They have the same system and rules. But if someone is following the path of terrorism, it is because of local compulsions and local politics.”

    Sir Syed Ahmad Khan, who founded the Anglo-Mohammedan Oriental College at Aligarh in 1877, studied under the same teachers as the founders of Deoband. But he believed that the downfall of India’s Muslims was due to their unwillingness to embrace modern ways. He decoupled religion from education and in his school sought to emulate the culture and training of India’s new colonial masters. Islamic culture was part of the curriculum, but so were the latest advances in sciences, medicine and Western philosophy. The medium was English, the better to prepare students for civil-service jobs. He called his school the Oxford of the East. In architecture alone, the campus lives up to that name. A euphoric blend of clock towers, crenellated battlements, Mughal arches, domes and the staid red brick of Victorian institutions that only India’s enthusiastic embrace of all things European could produce, the central campus of Aligarh today is haven to a diverse crowd of male and female, Hindu and Muslim students. Its law and medicine schools are among the top-ranked in India, but so are its arts faculty and Quranic Studies Centre. “With all this diversity, language, culture, secularism was the only way to go forward as a nation,” says Aligarh’s vice chancellor, P.K. Abdul Azis. “It was the new religion.”

    This fracture in religious doctrine — whether Islam should embrace the modern or revert to its fundamental origins — between two schools less than a day’s donkey ride apart when they were founded, was barely remarked upon at the time. But over the course of the next 100 years, that tiny crack would split Islam into two warring ideologies with repercussions that reverberate around the world to this day. Before the split became a crisis, however, the founders of the Deoband and Aligarh universities shared the common goal of an independent India. Pedagogical leanings were overlooked as students and staff of both institutions joined with Hindus across the subcontinent to remove the yoke of colonial rule in the early decades of the 20th century.

    Two Faiths, Two Nations
    But nationalistic trends were pulling at the fragile alliance, and India began to splinter along ethnic and religious lines. Following World War I, a populist Muslim poet-philosopher by the name of Muhammad Iqbal framed the Islamic zeitgeist when he questioned the position of minority Muslims in a future, independent India. The solution, Iqbal proposed, was an independent state for Muslim-majority provinces in northwestern India, a separate country where Muslims would rule themselves. The idea of Pakistan was born.

    Mohammed Ali Jinnah, the Savile Row–suited lawyer who midwifed Pakistan into existence on Aug. 14, 1947, was notoriously ambiguous about how he envisioned the country once it became an independent state. Both he and Iqbal, who were friends until the poet’s death in 1938, had repeatedly stated their dream for a “modern, moderate and very enlightened Pakistan,” says Sharifuddin Pirzada, Jinnah’s personal secretary. Jinnah’s own wish was that the Pakistani people, as members of a new, modern and democratic nation, would decide the country’s direction.

    But rarely in Pakistan’s history have its people lived Jinnah’s vision of a modern Muslim democracy. Only three times in its 62-year history has Pakistan seen a peaceful, democratic transition of power. With four disparate provinces, more than a dozen languages and dialects, and powerful neighbors, the country’s leaders — be they Presidents, Prime Ministers or army chiefs — have been forced to knit the nation together with the only thing Pakistanis have in common: religion.

    Following the 1971 civil war, when East Pakistan, now Bangladesh, broke away, the populist Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto embarked on a Muslim-identity program to prevent the country from fracturing further. General Mohammed Zia ul-Haq continued the Islamization campaign when he overthrew Bhutto in 1977, hoping to garner favor with the religious parties, the only constituency available to a military dictator. He instituted Shari’a courts, made blasphemy illegal and established laws that punished fornicators with lashes and held that rape victims could be convicted of adultery. When the Soviet Union invaded neighboring Afghanistan in December 1979, Pakistan was already poised for its own Islamic revolution.

    Almost overnight, thousands of refugees poured over the border into Pakistan. Camps mushroomed, and so did madrasahs. Ostensibly created to educate the refugees, they provided the ideal recruiting ground for a new breed of soldier: mujahedin, or holy warriors, trained to vanquish the infidel invaders in America’s proxy war with the Soviet Union. Thousands of Pakistanis joined fellow Muslims from across the world to fight the Soviets. As far away as Karachi, high school kids started wearing “jihadi jackets,” the pocketed vests popular with the mujahedin. Says Hamid Gul, then head of the Pakistan intelligence agency charged with arming and training the mujahedin: “In the 1980s, the world watched the people of Afghanistan stand up to tyranny, oppression and slavery. The spirit of jihad was rekindled, and it gave a new vision to the youth of Pakistan.”

    But jihad, as it is described in the Koran, does not end merely with political gain. It ends in a perfect Islamic state. The West’s, and Pakistan’s, cynical resurrection of something so profoundly powerful and complex unleashed a force that gave root to al-Qaeda’s rage, the Taliban’s dream of an Islamic utopia in Afghanistan, and in the dozens of radical Islamic groups rapidly replicating themselves in India and around the world today. “The promise of jihad was never fulfilled,” says Gul. “Is it any wonder the fighting continues to this day?” Religion may have been used to unite Pakistan, but it is also tearing it apart.

    India Today
    In India, Islam is, in contrast, the other — purged by the British, denigrated by the Hindu right, mistrusted by the majority, marginalized by society. There are nearly as many Muslims in India as in all of Pakistan, but in a nation of more than a billion, they are still a minority, with all the burdens that minorities anywhere carry. Government surveys show that Muslims live shorter, poorer and unhealthier lives than Hindus and are often excluded from the better jobs. To be sure, there are Muslim success stories in the booming economy. Azim Premji, the founder of the outsourcing giant Wipro, is one of the richest individuals in India. But for many Muslims, the inequality of the boom has reinforced their exclusion.

    Kashmir, a Muslim-dominated state whose fate had been left undecided in the chaos that led up to partition, remains a suppurating wound in India’s Muslim psyche. As the cause of three wars between India and Pakistan — one of which nearly went nuclear in 1999 — Kashmir has become a symbol of profound injustice to Indian Muslims, who believe that their government cares little for Kashmir’s claim of independence — which is based upon a 1948 U.N. resolution promising a plebiscite to determine the Kashmiri people’s future. That frustration has spilled into the rest of India in the form of several devastating terrorist attacks that have made Indian Muslims both perpetrators and victims.

    A mounting sense of persecution, fueled by the government’s seeming reluctance to address the brutal anti-Muslim riots that killed more than 2,000 in the state of Gujarat in 2002, has aided the cause of homegrown militant groups. They include the banned Student Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), which was accused of detonating nine bombs in Mumbai during the course of 2003, killing close to 80. The 2006 terrorist attacks on the Mumbai commuter-rail system that killed 183 people were also blamed on SIMI as well as the pro-Kashmir Pakistani terrorist group Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT). Those incidents exposed the all-too-common Hindu belief that Muslims aren’t really Indian. “LeT, SIMI — it doesn’t matter who was behind these attacks. They are all children of [Pervez] Musharraf,” sneered Manish Shah, a Mumbai resident who lost his best friend in the explosions, referring to the then President of Pakistan. In India, unlike Pakistan, Islam does not unify but divide.

    Still, many South Asian Muslims insist Islam is the one and only force that can bring the subcontinent together and return it to pre-eminence as a single whole. “We [Muslims] were the legal rulers of India, and in 1857 the British took that away from us,” says Tarik Jan, a gentle-mannered scholar at Islamabad’s Institute of Policy Studies. “In 1947 they should have given that back to the Muslims.” Jan is no militant, but he pines for the golden era of the Mughal period in the 1700s and has a fervent desire to see India, Pakistan and Bangladesh reunited under Islamic rule.

    That sense of injustice is at the root of Muslim identity today. It has permeated every aspect of society and forms the basis of rising Islamic radicalism on the subcontinent. “People are hungry for justice,” says Ahmed Rashid, a Pakistani journalist and author of the new book Descent into Chaos. “It is perceived to be the fundamental promise of the Koran.” These twin phenomena — the longing many Muslims feel to see their religion restored as the subcontinent’s core, and the marks of both piety and extremism Islam bears — reflect the lack of strong political and civic institutions in the region for people to have faith in. If the subcontinent’s governments can’t provide those institutions, then terrorists like the Trident’s mysterious caller will continue asking questions. And providing their own answers.

  12. #12 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 29, 2011 - 12:41 PM


    I have read with interest this whole article of Aryn Baker. I know most people would simply move away after seeing its length, people do not have the focus and attention span to read lengthy comments, hence most people do not read books.

    On the subject of India/Pakistan partition, one of my best friends uncle (to me he is also an uncle living in Toronto) recently wrote a book called: “Pakistan: Roots, Perspective and Genesis.” It is available on Amazon.com. If ever you get a chance read it.

  13. #13 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 1:43 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I know the article is long, but it’s very balanced and it is amazing to see that a “Western” person has such deep knowledge about the subcontinent.

  14. #14 by Sagaat on April 29, 2011 - 6:37 PM


    I agree the second one is better than Madhuri. She is kind of like Monica Belluci 😛 There we always agree 😉

  15. #15 by Sagaat on April 29, 2011 - 6:41 PM


    Actually the picture you have posted of Paz Vega– it is the only one where she comes about like Monica Belluci. On the balance of pics, Madhuri Dixit is still better. I just searched for her pics and she isn’t as attractive generally as she appears in that picture.

  16. #16 by Sagaat on April 29, 2011 - 6:47 PM


    I agree with you that this naak naksha bussiness is not the only way to look at beauty or women 😛 In the subcontinent we individualize the features and look at them in isolation rather than the whole thing. We don’t pay that much attention to the jaw, the cheekbones, the overall facial structure, the shape of the head, we just look at the nose and the eyes (and the color!). How can Madhubala be considered beautiful, I don’t understand? On the other hand in the west they look at the whole thing rather than the individual features. I guess I pay attention to both. As far as color is concerned, I prefer slightly tanned or darker but I like all the shades, apart from the extremes.

  17. #17 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 7:19 PM


    There are some double standards. You will notice that Asian people (older people more typically than younger) emphasise that individual features should be pretty. So, eyes should be big. Nose should be straight, not podgy, slender, but not crooked, angled, too long etc. Lips should be not too thin or too thick.

    But, at the same time, Aishwarya Rai during her peak was considered to be the most beautiful woman in the world by many. Aishwarya- if you look at individual features, has far from perfect nose and lips. But, overall she looked alluring.
    Same goes with Katrina Kaif- small eyes and slightly crooked nose, but overall, she is considered to be the most beautiful actress of the day.

    Ever since I have been old enough to feel attracted, I have never found Waheeda Rehman, Madhubala or Madhuri attractive. For some reason Madhuri never looked good to me even in her old movies, for example the one where she sings “ek do teen”.

    However it is not the case that I (or you) will feel attracted to people if the naak naksha is bad. I would say that individual features of Aishwarya, Katrina or Bellucci are above average if they are not “perfect” like Madhuri or Rani Mukherjee.

    Speaking of Rani, this is what I don’t get. You see people discussing that Rani has the best eyes, nose and lips, but when it comes to being blown away or stunned by someone’s looks- it is more often Aishwarya or Katrina, than Rani.

  18. #18 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 7:28 PM


    An example of nice looking girl without great naak naksha.

    She’s from this new movie called Yamla Pagla Deewana, she’s a newbie in the movie industry.

  19. #19 by Sagaat on April 29, 2011 - 7:29 PM


    I don’t like the looks of Rani Mukherjee. As far as Katrina Kaif is concerned, she is all right, but she has an oversized jaw, her head has a weird shape— I don’t know she is not structurally feminine.

    I don’t like Madhubala either, whereas Waheeda Rehman is ok. Though I find Madhuri’s features very attractive. Its just that we all have different tastes, although I think most people would think you overate Katrina Kaif.

    Aishwarya Roy is beautiful– like some features are over the top, but again I don’t find her as “attractive” or perhaps complete as Madhuri Dixit.

  20. #20 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 7:30 PM


    If you have some pics of Madhuri you consider nice please post them here.

    Maybe I have not seen enough of her or maybe I am just seeing the poorer pics.

  21. #21 by Sagaat on April 29, 2011 - 7:36 PM


    Shilpa Shetty is the most overated Indian actress in terms of looks. Who gave her the khitab of “good looking”, I don’t know?

  22. #23 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 7:42 PM


    I totally agree. Shilpa is very ordinary looking.

  23. #24 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 7:43 PM

    Sorry Sagaat

    Didn’t like that pic.

  24. #25 by Sagaat on April 29, 2011 - 7:44 PM


    This song: Aaja Nachle– Here Madhuri is beautiful

  25. #26 by Sagaat on April 29, 2011 - 7:46 PM


    Shilpa has the weirdest jaw and nose, everything about her is substandard, and they consider her beautiful? Its inexplicable, really.

  26. #27 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 7:46 PM


    After watching this you might change allegiance:

  27. #28 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 7:48 PM


    Man she looks so old there!

    Why does she look like an “amma”? Even when she is in make up?

  28. #30 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 7:50 PM


    I don’t feel nice calling someone ugly, but Shilpa is just not good looking enough to be an actress. People like her also for her body and long legs but, the face is defective.

    What do you think about this one:

  29. #31 by Sagaat on April 29, 2011 - 7:51 PM


    Yeah, I think Aishwarya Rai is even better.

  30. #32 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 7:51 PM

    LOL Sagaat

    And I think that will be one of her (Shlipa’s) better pics.

  31. #33 by Sagaat on April 29, 2011 - 7:51 PM

    Sushmita Sen is attractive, too.

  32. #34 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 8:00 PM

    Peshawar to host tournament for Afghanistan cricketers

    Rashid Latif, the Afghanistan coach, hopes a tournament arranged in Pakistan’s border city of Peshawar will unearth new talent for his side. The tournament will feature six teams named after provinces in Afghanistan, with each team featuring three players from the national side.

    Afghanistan have become the fastest-rising Associate team after refugees escaping years of war fled to Pakistan and discovered a love for cricket. “We are playing a tournament of three-day matches in Peshawar followed by a Twenty20 and then a one-day tournament, and I hope these events will help us find more players,” Latif told AFP.

    Latif, the former Pakistan wicketkeeper, took over as Afghanistan coach last year and helped them win the four-day ICC Intercontinental Cup, before guiding them to a shock win over Pakistan in the Asian Games Twenty20 semi-finals.

  33. #35 by khansahab on April 29, 2011 - 8:03 PM


    Zulqernain Haider makes following revelations to UK based newspaper (as reported by a member of Pakpassion):

    1) Wasim Akram, Naseem Ashraf, Inzamam, Ehtesham are with “Akmal Group”
    2) If I ever join politics, I would join PML-N, there is another story behind government support to me.
    3) Mafia is so strong in Pakistan, Younis Khan is the only honest man in Pakistan team, Rashid latif was punished for speaking truth.
    4) every corrupt man is afraid of me, every one will run away the day I speak the truth.
    5) Pakistan vs India semi final was fixed, Kamran’s father in law is incharge of all “corruption” affairs of Akmals
    6) Umar Akmal abused me in Dubai, when I protested Waqar Younis also stood his side, my family was also threatened.
    7) Afridi should talk about himself before talking about me, I know what is the story behind his AMROOD-style-ball-biting incident.
    8) Mafia got strong when Inzamam was made captain of Pakistan cricket team.
    9) I regret that majority is so negative that they’re suspecting my intention, while I am committed to clean Pakistan cricket.
    10) AWAM bhooki marr rahee hey and cricketers are busy in making their bank accounts.
    11) how can a cricketer make 14 castles in just year?
    12) Abdul Razaq is not a quality cricketer, Pakistan has many more like Abdul Razaq — why’re they so obsessed with Razaq?

  34. #36 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 29, 2011 - 8:15 PM


    I would consider Zulqarnain Haider’s comments as one sided, there may be some truth in it but, there are a few things he is exaggerating to make his point more powerful and strong.

  35. #37 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 29, 2011 - 10:34 PM

    I can assure you that Zulqarnain Haider will NEVER play international cricket after this statement to the media. He is gone, he is finished and he will be barking like a helpless “dawg” in the cage.

  36. #38 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 30, 2011 - 4:09 AM

    Zulqarnain Haider says: “Players’ assets should be examined.”

    Why just restrict this to players only? How about political leaders, starting from Zardari, Nawaz Sharif, Shahbaz Sharif, the big industrialists who were nothing a few years ago are multi-billionaires such as Mian Mansha etc., and how about Army Generals and their families like Zia ul Haq’s son Ijaz Ul Haq and the Senators and MNA’s. The question is who will tie a bell in the cat’s neck? They are all CHOOHAY (rats) and they are all in a race to acquire wealth by hook or by crook. First of all this race is unending and even if they win the race, they will still be a rat.

  37. #39 by khansahab on April 30, 2011 - 9:43 AM

    Javed A khan

    i think z haider needs to get his head examined.

  38. #40 by khansahab on April 30, 2011 - 10:31 AM

    PCB and ICC conducting inquiry, will disclose those involved in corruption: Zulqarnain

    LAHORE: Former Pakistan wicketkeeper Zulqarnain Haider on Friday said that the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) and the International Cricket Council (ICC) were conducting an inquiry and that those involved in cricket corruption would soon be disclosed.

    Speaking to the media at his residence in Lahore, Haider stated that he had taken a bold step in Dubai and that if he had not fled, he would not have been able to make the revelations if something had happened to him.

    He added that he could not disclose the names as it would cause problems for him and his family.

    Haider, who faced heavy criticism after he deserted the team during the UAE series, said he was delighted after the police arrested eight bookmakers in the Sambrial area near Sialkot.

    The former wicketkeeper Haider had deserted the team in Dubai during the Pakistan-South Africa one-day series, fleeing to London after claiming to have received threatening messages from an unknown source. He recently also said that he would be disclosing the people who were threatening him.

    He had ended his exile and returned to Pakistan on April 25, after Interior Minister Rehman Malik had assured him of proper security.

  39. #41 by khansahab on April 30, 2011 - 5:09 PM

    PCB rules out Kaneria’s return to Pak team

    Karachi: The Pakistan Cricket Board has ruled out an immediate comeback for Danish Kaneria in the national team, insisting that the leg-spinner first had to satisfy PCB’s integrity committee before he can be cleared for selection.

    “We have been asking Danish to provide us with the statement he gave to the Essex police when he was under investigation in the spot-fixing scandal in county cricket last year. But so far he has not provided us with the statement,” a PCB official told PTI.

  40. #42 by JAVED A. KHAN on April 30, 2011 - 7:29 PM


    Any news on Pak test team against WI ? In view of the poor fast bowling attack, I think they should include Umar Gul in it.

  41. #43 by khansahab on April 30, 2011 - 9:36 PM

    Tilkaratne knows everything about match-fixing – Rashid Latif

    Karachi: By accusing Sri Lankan cricketers of match fixing, the former Lankan skipper, Hashan Tillakaratne surely have made a lot of foes in his country however the former Pakistani captain, Rashid Latif came to his rescue by saying that Hashan knows inside out about this menace in the game and a lot of big names would be exposed when he would speak his heart out. “I know him personally, he told me about this (match-fixing) in the 1993-94 as well. Nobody knows the subcontinent players better then him and if he reveals the facts then a lot of former cricketers from India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka would be exposed”, claimed Latif while talking to News One TV.

  42. #44 by khansahab on April 30, 2011 - 9:41 PM

    A lot of people have criticised Miandad for not assisting Pakistan cricket.

    Miandad has done well helping China’s cricket infrastructure. The problem in Pakistan is that he has a lot of haters and politics prevents him from delivering to his potential.

    Similarly, Rashid Latif has transformed Afghanistan’s cricket team to such a level that people now say this team deserves Test status more than Bangladesh.

    It is only politics that prevents these people from working for the country- I don’t think their intentions are wrong. Unlike Wasim Akram I don’t think they are running after money and glamour.

  43. #45 by khansahab on May 1, 2011 - 7:24 AM

    Javed A Khan

    I have no news, but I am not desperately interested in this tour either.

    Only those series matter where the team selection is done completely on merit and some real progress is seen within the team.

    All this series will do is provide delusions of grandeur to the fans, and make Misbah and Ahmed Shahzad permanent fixtures in the Pakistan team. So the effect of this is to weaken Pakistan cricket, which is why I am not really interested.

  44. #46 by Mohammed Munir on May 1, 2011 - 7:24 AM

    Although Pakistan have won three out of three ODIs and well secured the series, but the performance against this third-class West Indies team is below convincing.

    Pakistan played badly in the third ODIs and they were lucky to win it in the end. 😦

    It was a weekend night in UAE and I couldn’t watch the game, so I wouldn’t comment much but the win was below par, this much I am sure.

  45. #47 by khansahab on May 1, 2011 - 7:33 AM

    Munir sahab

    Yeah, this is a 2nd string WI team with their top 3 batsmen being absent.

    Plus Pakistan’s batting has been slow- I don’t know how many balls Shahzad has faced this series but he must have faced many. These strike rates of 50/60 are criminal in ODI’s. So the battle has been lost there.

    The objective of every series must be to win, of course, but at the same time there must be an improvement in the performance graph from last time. I don’t think giving respect to this 2nd string team will really improve Pakistan’s mindset or confidence.

    You would expect this good bowling attack to rip through the batting line up, you would expect Riaz, Ajmal or Afridi to take 5 wicket hauls etc but this has not happened. Plus the batting chases (anchored by Misbah) have been agonisingly slow and the the matches have been taken pretty much down to the wire. I don’t understand how Misbah expects that the batsman batting at no 9, 10 or 11 will be able to occupy the crease proficiently and rotate strike.

  46. #48 by khansahab on May 1, 2011 - 8:18 AM

    Sarwan is back in the team. Hopefully this will make the matches more interesting?

  47. #49 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 1, 2011 - 8:33 AM

    Sarwan is going to delay the process of losing, he is not a match winner, Gayle is. Also in their squad is no Kieron Pollard and I dunno why?

    I am also not much interested in this series either but, I was thinking that this will be a good opportunity for Pakistan team to build up a new team, unfortunately with Misbah this is how they will play. Now, that they have won the series it is a dead rubber, Misbah’s job in ODI’s must be considered as over. They should also drop Ahmad Shahzad and bring in Usman Salahuddin too and along with Hammad Azam they should experiment them.

    When Ahmad Shahzad got out in the 3rd ODI playing that rash shot, the WI commentator (not sure if it was Bishop or Holding) said, he thought he would get away playing that shot like this because he has scored a 100 in the previous match. That is exactly I also thought about it. When he scored a hundred he was playing painfully slow and only wanted to score big to retain his place in the team. Pakistan won that match and he was adjudged MoM just like Misbah got in the 3rd ODI after playing painfully slow.

    Against a good team, they would have gotten Riaz and others from the other end and Misbah may have remained as usual not out and the team may have lost the match as it happened in the past so many times.

  48. #50 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 1, 2011 - 8:37 AM

    The Pakistani players have mastered the art of making a new mediocre bowler into a world class bowler by giving away wickets on a silver platter. They did the same against SL by giving away wickets to Mendis and now they are doing the same to Bishoo. Good players like Tendulkar and Sehwag will send Bishoo to cleaners. Afridi’s batting form is hopeless and on top of that he is giving away his wicket to Bishoo who has realized that all he needs to do is bowl him slightly wide on the off-stump and Afridi will not use his feet and will try to hit it out without any footwork and the result? We have seen it twice. If he dances down the wicket like Ahmad Shahzad did after completing his century, he will get stumped out.

  49. #51 by Mohammed Munir on May 1, 2011 - 9:05 AM

    Kieron Pollard is not much interested in WI, since IPL has become his ‘National’ side. 😉

    There is an unconfirmed news that Pollard didn’t make himself available for this series, due to IPL $$$$$$$ .

  50. #52 by khansahab on May 1, 2011 - 10:06 AM

    Munir sahab

    I think it was you who recently remarked about my concept of the Net Utility. I would like to shed some further light on this concept.

    An all rounder gets credit for excelling in 2 out of 3 departments (batting, bowling, fielding). But at the same time a player who is good in only one department (Razzaq in batting) can get credit for the effect his presence has on the opposition. So, Razzaq is a match winner and until he is present on the crease, the opposition knows they can’t relax.

    If you recall the Net Utility places or attributes a number of runs to value a player’s worth. In ODI’s I started with a figure of 35 for batsmen (as that is a borderline decent average in ODI’s) and 30 runs for a bowler (a decent bowling average and strike rate). The positive factors add 1 or 2 to this number (depending on how worthwhile they are). The negative factors deduct 1 or 2 likewise.

    So, the fact that Afridi’s presence unsettles the opposition adds 2 to his overall N.U. But, the fact that he is a good fielder, is not as significant as his overall presence unsettling the opposition, so I will only add 1. Again, if he was like Jonty Rhodes or something one could add 2 runs to his N.U.

    Similarly, under this assessment Hafeez is a pretty damn good player for the ODI team, because I can’t see any significant negative factors. He is a 30 run player, but as an opener he gets credit for that, simply because a Pakistani making 30 runs consistently is like making 50 runs.

    Positive factors are (add 1 or 2 depending on how good you think this factor is):

    – Being a team man
    – Good fielding
    – Good under pressure
    – Good in at least 2 of 3 departments (batting, bowling, fielding)
    – Good strike rate
    – No involvement in politics, factionalism, scandals
    – Performance against good bowling or batting line ups
    – Effect on opposition’s confidence

    Negative factors (deduct 1 or 2)

    – The opposite of the above

    In the case of players like Razzaq, Ajmal and Salman Butt, one would be compelled to deduct two runs from their N.U because of their poor fielding. I also think that there should be a “special addition or deduction” of 5 runs because of something a player is very good or very bad at. Kamran Akmal suffers this penalty for obvious reasons, Misbah suffers this for his selfish batting.

    This is not a perfect concept, because, many factors will be linked. For example, the effect Afridi has on the opposition is a distinct factor, but is linked to his fielding. He builds morale by diving and catching well.

    This is not to say this concept is flawless, but for a team like Pakistan where fans can’t agree between themselves which players should be selected and why, this is the best concept.

  51. #53 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 1, 2011 - 5:41 PM

    How CA shielded Warne, Waugh in fixing scam

    “I knew all along about Warne (pictured) and Waugh’s involvement with the bookies and the punishment that was handed to them.” : Qamar Ahmed. -AFP Photo

    The match and spot-fixing controversy continues to rage on despite the best efforts of people who seem to be seriously involved in eradicating the menace.

    The unwarranted and unwise statement issued recently by James Sutherland, the Cricket Australia CEO, alleging that last summer’s spot-fixing scandal in England had come as a result of PCB’s failure in implementing Justice Qayyum’s judicial enquiry report, has not helped either.

    It has in fact added fuel to the fire which obviously has irked the PCB officials, and justifiably so. They have now very rightly lodged a protest with the ICC through a letter, asking the world body to look into this serious allegation.

    Sutherland, if he had done his homework properly and had bothered to look into his own backyard and all the records in his office cabinet, he wouldn’t have dared to open his mouth accusing PCB for their lack of effort in the matter.

    He should have known that it was not Pakistan but the Australian Cricket Board (ACB) — now Cricket Australia (CA) — which had been responsible for the biggest cover-up on match and spot-fixing saga of the last two decades. The ACB shielded their stars Mark Waugh and Shane Warne after they were found out to be involved with Indian bookies, passing on to them information about pitch, weather and more in return of substantial payment during Singer World Series tournament in Sri Lanka in which India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Australia participated in 1994.

    Having read what Sutherland had to say, I thought it is no longer correct to keep quite and I should let the readers know the gory details of the big Australian cover-up and to let Sutherland know that when you disturb a hornet’s nest, you should expect to be swamped by the stinging wasps and could end up with a swollen face.

    Being a roving reporter for prestigious organisations such as the BBC, The Guardian, The Times, The Daily Telegraph, Reuters and AFP, I had my own moles and sources to get to the root of the story and I knew all along about Mark Waugh and Warne’s involvement with the bookies — from 1994 onwards — and the punishment that was handed to them secretly by the ACB.

    But it was not me but my two Australian journalist friends, Mark Ray of Sunday Age and Malcolm Conn of The Australian, both most knowledgeable men in their profession who came into action that things really came into the open.

    The chronology of the cover-up, in fact, started when Mark Waugh was met up with an Indian bookmaker John during the Singer World Series in Sri Lanka who enticed him with money to provide team, pitch and weather information in return of US$4,000.

    Waugh, at the Oberoi hotel in Colombo, then introduced Warne to him as well who too got into the net, having lost huge sum of money in the nearby Casino.

    The two kept their deal with the bookie secret from their colleagues, fearing disapproval from them. They even kept silent during the subsequent tour of Pakistan in 1994-95 after they reported Pakistan captain Salim Malik attempting to bribe them to play poorly in Tests.Phil Wilkins, a respected Australian cricket writer of Sydney Morning Herald, however got the sniff of Malik’s wheeling-dealing attempt and as a result media interest began to build up, although at a slow pace.

    An anonymous letter to Mark Ray of Sunday Age alleging Waugh and Warne being paid by the bookies, then triggered an investigation into the shady affair, launched by then Australian team manager Ian McDonald. It resulted into signed statements from both the Aussie players on Feb 20, 1995 acknowledging their involvement with the bookies.

    The statements were then passed on to Graham Halbish, the CEO of ACB, who called both Waugh and Warne at the team’s hotel before their departure for the West Indies tour. The players admitted their guilt in front of ACB Chairman Alan Crompton and were fined A$8,000 and A$10,000 respectively.

    The matter was secretly passed on to Sir Clyde Walcott, the first non-white President of the ICC, and his deputy David Richards — the CEO.

    The committee members of the ACB were bemused that the information was passed on to the ICC without their consent.

    Everything till then was kept under wraps by the ACB officials including the fines imposed on the two players and their involvement, not a whiff even to the press about what had gone on within the ACB or that the players have been punished.

    Crompton and Halbish, the Chairman and CEO of ACB respectively, feared that if the involvement of players was revealed, the credibility of the two players as witnesses against Pakistan captain Salim Malik would be severely in question now that the two had themselves been found guily of involvement in activities associated with unregistered gambling.

    Furthermore, it was feared that the pressure on the ACB to ban the two players will escalate. So they finally decided to cover the matter up.

    Furious Australian media men, chastened with what had been going on within the ACB and about the cover-up, then threatened the board officials to reveal the scam.

    It was Malcolm Conn who did it, threatening the then ACB CEO Malcolm Speed that he is going to run a story about Waugh’s involvement with the bookies, not knowing himself that even Warne was fined.

    Speed, realising the consequences, pre-empted Conn by releasing a statement that two unnamed players were fined in 1994-95 for having financial dealing with bookies.

    The next day Conn’s story ran on front page of The Australian about the great Australian Cricket cover-up, with a bold headline saying ‘Cricket’s betting Scandal’. Subsequently, Mark Waugh was booed all the way to the crease the next day in the Test against England at the Adelaide Oval.

    Both Waugh and Warne, through their manager, then hurriedly called a media conference in which they admitted of being ‘naive and stupid’.

    In the knowledge of what had gone on within the ACB, I would for my part — from 1994/94 onwards — in every annual press briefing of the ICC at Lord’s ask the president and the CEO David Richards as to why the ICC is not taking any positive action to stop allegations of dicey dealings against Pakistan captain Malik by the Aussies. Every British journalist would vouch for that.

    In return, I would get sketchy response, with Richards — also being a former ACB CEO — telling me that it was not in the ICC’s jurisdiction to take action because of the matter’s legal implications.

    And mind you, that response by Richards was given to us despite him being in the knowledge of what had gone on in the ACB offices. It was a cover up at all levels involving ACB.

    Had the Australians running the game been honest back then in 1994-95, there would not have been any need of Justice Qayyum, Justice Bhandari and Justice Late Chandra chaud of India investigating into match and spot-fixing and the game may not have been as much plagued with the menace as we experience in every day of our life now.

    *** Chandra WHAT? ***

  52. #54 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 1, 2011 - 6:01 PM

    Here is a chronological list of betting and match fixing since 1979 till date.


    All the teams are involved and the only team which is more BADNAM than others is Pakistan and what could be the reason that Pakistan and Pakistanis are hated so much?

    NO team or players may have done this before what Lillee and Marsh did in 1981 during the Headingly Test, they bet against their own team and made money!

  53. #55 by khansahab on May 1, 2011 - 7:41 PM

    Has anyone heard of this new girl in Bollywood called “Zarine Khan”?

    She has been introduced by Salman Khan, who has caller her a “Pathan girl”.

    Javed A Khan,

    I wonder with her light skin, long nose and Katrina-esque features, will you be willing to accept her to be a real Pathan girl? 😀

  54. #56 by Mohammed Munir on May 2, 2011 - 9:43 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Thanks for posting the above link on “Match Fixing in Cricket”. This article gives a detailed account of how it all started and actually who started it. Plus with it’s ‘Timeline’ analysis and so many fixing incidents by many other teams, it is a ‘collector’s item’ on match-fixing.

    I have not only printed it for my own records but also copied it and shall circulate it to a few friends via email, including Indians, Sri Lankas, etc.

  55. #57 by Mohammed Munir on May 2, 2011 - 9:45 AM

    Khansahab …

    Tussi Waday Chaloo Ho. 😉

    You are purposefully teasing Javed Khan about this new actress Zarine Khan and whether she is a pathan or not.

    The point is that Salman Khan is not an authority to decide on origins of that girl, because if was upto Salman he would have even declared that Brazilian model, whom he was dating some time back, also a pathan. 😆

    PS: I have read your comments on ‘Net Utility’ with interest and shall share my opinion of the same later.

  56. #58 by Mohammed Munir on May 2, 2011 - 9:50 AM

    LOL @ Justice Chandra Chaud ….. 😉

    Are we not missing the middle name of Chandra — Chaud ❓ 🙄

  57. #59 by khansahab on May 2, 2011 - 9:55 AM

    Munir sahab

    Yes, I wanted to see how Javed A Khan wriggles out of a difficult situation 🙂

    In a land of short and tanned Pathans comes out a light skinned and attractive girl with long crooked Pathan nose and “Khan” surname. Plus, she comes with a Salman Khan certificate of Pathan authenticity 🙂

  58. #60 by khansahab on May 2, 2011 - 10:44 AM

    Wahab, Hafeez to be rested: Afridi

    BARBADOS: A few changes will be made in the Pakistan cricket team for the remaining matches of the one-day international series.

    Captain Shahid Afridi said that he wanted to provide chances to young players while faults in batting line have to be removed.

    Talking with Geo News from Barbados, Afridi said that in the upcoming matches, fast bowler Wahab Riaz would be replaced by Tanveer Ahmed while opener Taufiq Umar would be played in place of Mohammad Hafeez.

    Regarding fast bowler Junaid Khan, the skipper said that the young pacer has begun his international career just now and he wanted to give him more chances.

    He said that middle-order batsman Usman Salahuddin may be included in the final eleven of the last match of the series.

  59. #61 by khansahab on May 2, 2011 - 10:45 AM

    The ones that should have been rested were Shahzad and Misbah but unfortunately Hafeez will have to lose his place.

  60. #62 by Mohammed Munir on May 2, 2011 - 10:47 AM

    By her surname, “Khan”, she sounds like Salman’s sister. 😉

    And their kids can be …. Khan-e-Khanaan. 😀

  61. #63 by Mohammed Munir on May 2, 2011 - 11:00 AM

    In our Mohalla team each and every player was given a chance to either bowl or bat, because if we didn’t gave someone chance then next game that player would not contribute in match-chanda (donation).

    This is exactly how Pakistan team is operating, after winning the series all they are now concerned is to give chance to everyone and winning is not any more important. Afridi should think that even these games will be counted in his final statistics, so being a Captain winning them is as important as any other match.

    Professional teams like Australia and South Africa would never do that.

    Secondly, I agree with Khansahab, even if they wanted to play the new guys and someone needed to rest, then it should have been Ahmed Shahzad & Missy Baba, but both of them are Afridi’s favourite for different reasons off course. 😆

  62. #64 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 2, 2011 - 1:10 PM


    by looks she appears more like Katrina Kaif, but photos are always deceptive and misleading with the make up and air brushing. One needs to see them in person to tell whether she actually has Pathani looks or not.

  63. #65 by khansahab on May 2, 2011 - 2:09 PM

    Pakistan’s Tendulkar dismissed by Roach. 30 run Shafiq is the new batsman. Are we going to see a century today?

  64. #66 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 2, 2011 - 4:19 PM

    Why do they have to play Ahmad Shahzad again and again and again and again and again???????????????????????????? Afridi, Waqar and Inti Alam deserves a kick in their Butt for playing Ahmad Shahzad.


    I think we should now remove those TWO links BAKAOZ that is a bit a too much.

  65. #67 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 2, 2011 - 4:28 PM


    WE are going to see “A” rain today ! 😀 And, that is what is happening right now.

    The way Pakistan is playing during this whole series against West Indies, I have never seen any Pakistani team playing such dull and boring one day international series ever in my life. I didn’t watch the match today for more than 5 minutes, because I am pissed off by Ahmad Shahzad’s face and the thought of Misbah coming on later and playing another tuk, tuk innings. There is not a single player who is playing exciting cricket whereas, Pakistanis were famous for playing exciting cricket and these guys are so boring that they are playing ODI like a test match. And, for sure I will NOT watch the test series.

  66. #68 by khansahab on May 2, 2011 - 5:45 PM

    Javed A Khan

    OK, links removed. but I didn’t put them to admire the girl because I don’t find her attractive. It was just to show how Muslims are upset over this girl posing nude.

    There was a lot of ” a rain” in Bridgtown today, and I am sure there was some ” a grass” on the pitch.

    Ahmed Shahzad is a parchi player. Misbah must be given credit for getting out, otherwise Pakistan would not have reached 200.

    Slow and defensive batting by Pakistan- much of the blame goes to Shafiq for playing a painstakingly slow innings, possibly just to cement his place in the team. I don’t know why Pakistan has for the past few months batted very slowly and defensively- this must be investigated by the team management. Whose idea is this? Surely it can’t be Afridi’s because he is a positive player.

  67. #69 by khansahab on May 2, 2011 - 8:24 PM

    Why hasn’t Hafeez bowled yet?

    Has Tanvir lost the match for Pakistan, conceding 10 per over?

  68. #70 by khansahab on May 2, 2011 - 8:36 PM

    If Pakistan lose this match, I would not drop Shafiq but he should be given a stern warning that if he ever plays this slow again, he will be out of the team.

    Tanvir Ahmed will probably be dropped, he had one really bad over but I guess he is not suited to ODI cricket. I am just going off the scorecard here- I am not watching the match.

  69. #71 by khansahab on May 2, 2011 - 8:41 PM

    This move to give “a confidence” to Shahzad has backfired because Shahzad is a liability.

  70. #72 by khansahab on May 2, 2011 - 8:50 PM

    This is strange- in all matches Hafeez has dismissed a batsman at the start of his spell, yet in this match he is introduced when the result of the match seems to be almost certain!

    What is Afridi doing? Or was Hafeez resting/injured until now?

  71. #73 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 3, 2011 - 1:16 AM

    In this stupid D/L method the team batting second always have the advantage because, they know their target which is always very small especially if you have wickets in hand. Having said that I wanted Pakistan to lose this match because they are playing like a third class team in all departments. I am not sure if you guys have read when I wrote it will be difficult for Pakistan to whitewash WI in all forms. They lost the first and only T20 and now they lost the 4th ODI, possibly they will lose the 5th also especially if they play like this.

    The test team has been announced and Umar Gul as well as Younus Khan are back in the team. But, I am not interested in the test series its gonna be hell of a boring series.

  72. #74 by Mohammed Munir on May 3, 2011 - 5:54 AM

    Pakistan loss the 4th rain interrupted ODI on D/L.

    The tragedy is that Pakistan lost by 1 run, yes just 1 run and that too by D/L and in the 30th over. Shahid Afridi who was bowling the 30th over was hit for a decisive six at 29.3 overs, while 2 more balls and the game was over 29.5 overs with WI wining by 1 run. 😦

    This is how it all happened:

    We are into the last 10. Rain is hovering around. Interesting, interesting situation. West Indies have the advantage of knowing what exactly they need to do. Afridi brings himself on

    29.1 Shahid Afridi to DJ Bravo, no run, short legbreak, stays back and defends
    Sammy is animated in the players’ balcony

    29.2 Shahid Afridi to DJ Bravo, no run, another dot, quick legbreak, open face
    Sammy and Gibson gesture from the gallery. West Indies behind on D/L

    29.3 Shahid Afridi to DJ Bravo, SIX, and now they are well ahead of D/L. Long hop, and Bravo pulls it over midwicket. What a well-timed six. Could be the match-winning six. Sammy and Gibson applaud, and then signal a forward defensive. “keep the wicket for the rest of the over.”

    29.4 Shahid Afridi to DJ Bravo, no run, forward defensive it is

    29.5 Shahid Afridi to DJ Bravo, no run, full and straight, another defensive shot

    And rain has arrived, with West Indies are ahead of D/L par score, and it’s 5.22pm in Barbados, so light will become an issue too. What a timely six from Bravo. Spare a thought for Afridi too. He bowled just one bad ball in the over. And was hit for a six. That could decide the match now. Drama, but no actual cricket happening.

    5.46pm West Indies have won! The game has been called off, and West Indies have won by one run on D/L. They have finally beaten a Test side other than Bangladesh in an ODI – the last time they did so was in June 2009. It came through a superb knock from Lendl Simmons, but they all threatened to throw it all away, and with rain around, they needed a six in what turned out to be the final over to get ahead of the D/L par score. What a timely six it was from Bravo. Do hang around for quotes from the presentation.

    Although for Pakistan there were a few more negatives then loosing a dead-rubble rain-hit game based on D/L method.

    Below are some of the areas of concerns:

     Except for Hafeez-121, Asad-71 and Tanveer-18, none of our so-called long batting order could reach double figures.

     In 50 overs WI gave 7 extras, while in 29.5, we gave away 10, and in a game which we lost by 1 runs this was important, very important.

     Hafeez, though scored 121, but played slow, whereas Asad Shafiq was dead-slow and major culprit scoring only 71 in 102 balls.

     Afridi have totally lost his mo-jo with the bat, he should seriously do something about it or starting batting at no. 11. 😦

     Ahmed Shahzad, well what can I, or anyone else, say about him. 😉

     With Razzaq out of the team, Umer Akmal not playing and Afridi totally out-of-batting-form, all we are left with are dead-slow batters including a few newbies who are playing only for their own survival rather then batting fast.

  73. #75 by Mohammed Munir on May 3, 2011 - 5:58 AM

    The Tests squad has been announced and as always, there are a few surprises.

    This is the squad …

    Misbah-ul-Haq (capt), Younis Khan, Taufeeq Umar, Mohammad Hafeez, Asad Shafiq, Azhar Ali, Mohammad Salman (wk), Saeed Ajmal, Abdur Rehman, Umar Akmal, Umar Gul, Wahab Riaz, Tanvir Ahmed, Junaid Khan, Hammad Azam
    The good news is that Mohammed Salman has been kept to keep the wickets, keeping the shady Akmal (this time Adnan) away. This shall also avoid the Akmal clout in the team.

    Nevertheless, there are a few bad news too.

    – I wonder what Taufeeq Umar has done to achieve a test recall, other then being on ODI tour and remaining un-played.

    – Junaid Khan did not impress anyone enough in his short ODI career to command a Test cap so soon.

    – Azhar Ali, the guy played 10 Tests with one century and 6 fifties and averaging 37 and while domestic average is also 38.

    – Whereas we have Fawad Alam on the other hand who was allowed just 3 Tests with one big hundred and averaging 41 and more importantly his first class average is over 57. Furthermore, Fawad comes in with handy slow left-arm bowling option and is a very energetic fielder.

    – IMO, Fawad Alam definitely deserved a Test recall ahead of Azar Ali.

  74. #76 by Mohammed Munir on May 3, 2011 - 9:25 AM

    Khansahab …

    As I mentioned before, I liked your idea of ‘Net Utility’ in cricket and specially since there are quite a few unconventional and futurist areas like ‘being a team man’, ‘under pressure performance’, ‘strike rate’, ‘politics, factionalism & scandals’, ‘performance against good teams’, ‘effects on opposition’ etc.

    It is always very easy however equally ambiguous to judge a certain player based only on his individual batting, bowling or fielding.

    I always said that cricket is a very sensitive and vulnerable game, which is not the case with many other major sports. For example, in cricket, toss, playing conditions, pitch, weather conditions, timing of the day or night, so much so that even an innocent wind can change the complexion of the game and effect it’s final result by 180 degree. Similarly, the nature of this sport is such that it is not easy to understand which player is giving his hundred percent for the team and who is not fully committed, because one good ball, one bad shot or just one dropped catch makes a huge difference and can actually loose or win you a match.

    Another point is that this game is followed so passionately, specially in Asia, that the fans treat cricket players like their gods. The following and cricket craze in Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh is not much behind but the cake goes to India who with a population of well over a Billion peoples have the highest number of cricket-crazy fans in the world, and for many of whom this game carries a religion status or even more then that. This shall also enable us to imagine the kind of commercial might cricket is enjoying.

    Now add to all this, an angle of bookies and match-fixing into this scenario and we have a perfect recipe for one heck of money spinning sports.

    We all very well know the kind of corruption, power-struggle, contacts and political influencing which goes into the sport of cricket, and why it should not.

    With a background of such kind, there is bound to be a precise and clearly defined system to accurately judge and monitor this game and try to put in some sort of control on cricket and more importantly it’s players.

    Therefore, this NU concept seems like a very scientific and new approach and although not many countries would have tried or tested it, but it’s perfect sense to make it work in a country like Pakistan.

    On similar thoughts, I would like to put forward a example from banking industry. In banking, specially Corporate Banking, a lot of business decisions were used to be made on market information, research, experience, intuitions, and many other parameters most of which were considered intangible. Along with this, many different banks had separate set of rules and regulations on lending limitations and management of their risk and capital requirements, which widely varied from country to county. However, to standardize and rather regularize the different banking practices an international banking supervising committee was formed which suggested standard set of uniform rules called “Basel Accords” for monitoring the risks and steps to control those risks for banks.

    Banking and finance are much more sophisticated and important, then a simple game of cricket and it wouldn’t be wise to relate them both, but the idea of this example was to show the importance of widely accepted uniform standards which create even grounds for all involved and greatly reduces any chances of corruption, injustice, misuse of authority, be it in banking or any sports.

    Finally, coming back to your concept of ‘NU”, I think this system if applied will help reduced a lot of injustices in this corruption-prone game.

    Going forward, I would like to know that are you aware of any other cricketing country applying something on these lines ❓ Are is it that you have read/ discussed about the idea somewhere ❓

  75. #77 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 3, 2011 - 12:15 PM

    “Fawad Alam definitely deserved a Test recall ahead of Azar Ali.” Munir

    If Fawad Alam was supposed to be in the test squad, he should have been in place of Taufiq Umar and not Azhar Ali, because the later is still a better batsman than Taufiq.

  76. #78 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 3, 2011 - 12:23 PM

    ICC refuses to act on PCB complaint against Sutherland

    LONDON: The ICC has refused to act on a PCB complaint against Cricket Australia CEO James Sutherland for stating that Pakistan was not doing enough to curb corruption in cricket, saying that it was matter between the two boards.
    Last week, a PCB official said it was still waiting for a reply from the ICC on the letter it had sent to them asking them to inquire into the statement made by Sutherland recently. But sources said the ICC had, on April 27, sent a letter to PCB Chairman, Ijaz Butt informing him the ICC could not interfere in the matter.
    “The ICC, in its reply, has said that this is a matter between the Pakistan and Australian cricket boards,” a source said. “It has advised the PCB to take up their grievances directly with Cricket Australia,” he added.
    Sutherland, in a recent interview to the ‘Age’, said that he didn’t believe that the PCB had done enough to implement the recommendations of the Justice Malik Qayyum report into match-fixing that was given in 2000.
    Sutherland said if the PCB had done enough, the spot-fixing scandal involving Salman Butt, Muhammad Asif and Muhammad Aamir could have been avoided. The source said the ICC had told the PCB it could not become a party in this case as it was an issue that needed to be dealt with by the two boards. The source said the PCB was now likely to take up the matter directly from cricket Australia and ask for a response from them.

  77. #79 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 3, 2011 - 12:41 PM

    This is ICC’s hypocrisy, dual policy and favouritism. They poke their nose in everything that happens in Pakistan or against the Pakistani players now when Jimmy Sutherland the son of a convict blabbed out a venomous statement against Pakistan, it judiciary system, its cricket board and against the Pakistani players, the PCB formally launched a complaint with the ICC and the ICC is saying it is a matter between the two boards and they must sort out directly. Why? Why is the ICC impotent here?

    The betting and match fixing started from England and Australia and the other day I have pasted a link with the timeline of events and it is pretty obvious that the English, Australian and South African players have been doing this blatantly and then Cricket Australia and other cricketing boards have covered up with a hush hush.

    Shane Warne was involved in taking steroids and the whole world knew about it, he even tried to mask that and came up with excuses that it was one of the recipes from her grandma – like it is some kinda cough medicine – Shane Warne was openly involved not only in flirting with girls and celebrities but he was involved in orgies and there is ample proof with photos and videos available on the internet, all one needs to do is type his name and add the word orgies after that and you will see Shane Warne spinning his cherry through the leg stumps.

    The ICC, ECB, Cricket SA and Cricket Australia must stop this dual policy and stop fooling the rest of the world, because no one is naive these days, everyone knows and I wonder why the media is silent against them? Pakistani media should tear them into pieces with the kinda evidence that is available.

    Shahid Afridi’s ball chewing saga was blown out of proportion whereas, India’s fast bowler Manoj Prabhakar openly chewed the ball a few times and pulled off a few pieces of leather from the white ball in an attempt to rough up one side of the ball to make it swing. We all saw the video here on this blog and I am sure it is still here if you search, but that video has been removed from most Indian websites soon after it was discovered and people started viewing it. So, this is how they systematically remove the evidence but, nothing has totally disappeared from the net, it is still there.

    Finally, I would suggest the PCB should not let this matter go easily, they should make a firm statement through the media instead of writing formal letters only, they should warn CA, especially Jimmy Sutherland and ask him to apologize publicly. The Australians think they can say or do anything and get away with it, their Prime Minister called Murali a Chucker and did not bother to apologize. I can say that Murali is a chucker or a javelin thrower because I am not that important, it is my view but those people are representing their country and have no right to talk against another country. If they do then they deserve to be treated the same way, ‘Eent Ka Jawab Pathar say do.”

  78. #80 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 3, 2011 - 12:46 PM

    Revolution needed in Pakistan cricket: Imran
    – 2nd May 2011
    By Majid Siddique

    Former Pakistan captain Imran Khan feels there needs to be a “revolution” in the country’s cricket to rid it of corruption, favoritism and nepotism.

    During the opening of the Moin Khan academy, Imran said drastic steps were needed to put things straight in Pakistan cricket. “If a democratic system is the best way to govern Pakistan cricket then it should be implemented as soon as possible,” he told reporters.

    Imran said Australia had the best cricket system because of intense competition in their domestic league.

    “If you have a stable cricket system you will have quality cricket and your selection will be fair. Good administration also means taking preventive steps to keep out corruption in the sport,” he said.

    “Our cricket needs a revolution like the country. Democracy should prevail and the people running the Pakistan Cricket Board should be accountable for their performances,” Imran added.

  79. #81 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 3, 2011 - 12:56 PM

    Imran Khan thinks that REVOLUTION is a commodity that can be bought in a supermarket or he is confusing with the revolutions of a car engine or may be the cricket ball when it is spun by a leggy! These days he talks only about revolution, shouldn’t he know that revolutions don’t come by pep talk. By changing a government is not the same as bringing a revolution. A revolution happens once in a century and for that a leader has to create awareness among the masses but, before that the masses needs to be educated and that will not happen in Pakistan, not in the next 50 years.

    A couple of years ago people who have visited Pakistan from here came back and they said, there will be a revolution in Pakistan, the Talibans will come and takeover. I said, not even in their wildest dream can they bring a revolution and out of all the parties Taliban? No way. Now, those very people who have been to Pakistan recently are saying, you are right Pakistan is divided into so many parties, sects and sub-sects etc., that it is impossible to unite the nation. There you go. There is no leader in Pakistan who can unite the nation and bring them on one common platform. We say there is PPP and then there is PML and only the Bhutto family and Nawaz Sharif family comes into power or the army takes over. Why? Because, the rest are all fighting against each other, there are hundreds of religious parties each one claiming that they are better than the other. So, with this kinda ideology can you expect a revolution? No way Jose!

  80. #82 by khansahab on May 3, 2011 - 5:24 PM

    Mohsin Khan threatens to resign

    Mohsin Khan, Pakistan’s chief selector, is on the verge of resigning from his post after differences developed with fellow selectors over the selection of the 15-man squad for the Tests against the West Indies.

    Khan, who was appointed ahead of the World T20 last year, has given an ultimatum to the PCB to resolve the matter by lunchtime Wednesday, otherwise he will announce his stepping down later in the afternoon.

  81. #83 by khansahab on May 3, 2011 - 5:25 PM

    “Bad People” are threatening Hashan Tillakaratne.

    Former Sri Lanka captain Hashan Tillakaratne has vowed to reveal full details of match-fixing that he alleges took place during his career.

    Tillakaratne and ex-team-mate Arjuna Ranatunga claim fixing has been common in Sri Lankan cricket since 1992.

    The Sri Lanka Cricket Board called on the pair to substantiate the claims and queried why they have only emerged now.

    Tillakaratne says he will provide the International Cricket Council with information “at the appropriate time.”

    The 43-year-old added: “I made a statement to the provincial council, I said that I still maintain my stand on the allegations.

    “After I came out with these allegations [at the weekend] I have been getting a lot of nuisance calls, death threats, but definitely I will expose all those who are involved in a time to come.”

    When asked why he has not followed the established procedure of working with the ICC’s anti-corruption unit, Tillakaratne replied “I will do that in the days to come.”

  82. #84 by khansahab on May 3, 2011 - 8:02 PM

    Ranatunga to spill match fixing beans

    Former Sri Lanka captain Arjuna Ranatunga said he would “reveal more details” that is likely to substantiate Hashan Tillakaratne’s match fixing allegations.

    “I am planning to hold a press conference soon and will reveal more details on this,” Ranatunga said from Colombo yesterday after his former teammate Tillakaratne revealed on Friday that match fixing in Sri Lankan cricket was rampant since 1992.

    Both Ranatunga and Tillakaratne have entered politics and belong to the opposition party.

    Ranatunga, who led the islanders to a World Cup triumph in 1996, also headed the Sri Lankan cricket board in 2008. Meanwhile, a former Sri Lankan player found something strange about two matches in the early 1990s.

    “I am suspicious about at least two matches. Sri Lankan players had no money then,” he said. When asked why he did not disclose the information for 20 years, he said: “The truth would not have come out even now had this not been revealed by Tillakaratne.”

  83. #85 by khansahab on May 3, 2011 - 8:49 PM

    Former Pakistan Test captain Zaheer Abbas feels that the current crop of Pakistani batsmen lacks temperament of staying at the wicket for a long period of time.

    Stressing on the need of a specialist batting coach, the legendary batsman described that the lack of patience and spirit in the players is the biggest cause of Pakistan team’s constant batting failure over the years.

  84. #86 by khansahab on May 3, 2011 - 9:03 PM

    Shoaib Malik wants Miandad as batting coach, demand separate teams for test and ODIs

    Karachi:Former Pakistan captain Shoaib Malik has supported the idea of having the batting coach for Pakistan cricket team.

    However, call it his ignorance or his keen interest, but he demanded that PCB should talk to Javed Miandad for the job of batting coach, despite refusal by the later.

    “Though I’ve not seen too much of Pakistan vs West Indies matches due to time difference, but I’ve heard that our batsmen are struggling and they need some proper guidance,” he said.

    Javed Miandad is the best choice for every one if you ask about who could be the possible batting coach,” said Shoaib Malik.

    He also expressed his disappointment on not being selected for test series against West Indies.

    “I know that I’ve submitted each and every document that PCB asked for, now I am concentrating on my cricket, I am playing club cricket and will play domestic matches as well,” he added.

    “To select me is selectors’ job, and my duty is to keep trying hard and that is what I am doing,” an obvious disappointed Malik said.

    But the former captain was not happy with formation of the team and said that it would be better to have separate teams for test and limited over crickets.

    “You need specialists in test cricket, while in ODIs allrounders have a greater role to play,” Malik said.

    He also supported the talks of immediate restoration of India Pakistan cricket series adding that it will help the both teams.

  85. #87 by Mohammed Munir on May 4, 2011 - 4:41 AM

    Wa Jee Wa … Aakher-Kaar Malak Saab Bolaine. 😉

  86. #88 by Mohammed Munir on May 4, 2011 - 4:53 AM

    The Lady Rescuer …

    A father walks into a restaurant with his young son.

    He gives the young boy three 5 rupee coins to play with to keep him occupied.

    Suddenly, the boy starts choking and going blue in the face.

    The father realizes the boy has swallowed the coins and starts slapping him on the back.

    The boy coughs up 2 of the coins but is still choking.

    Looking at his son, the father is panicking, shouting for help.

    A well dressed, attractive, and serious looking woman, in a blue business suit is sitting at a coffee bar reading a newspaper and sipping a cup of coffee.

    At the sound of the commotion, she looks up, puts her coffee cup down, neatly folds the newspaper, places it on the counter, gets up from her seat and makes her way, unhurried, across the restaurant.

    Reaching the boy, the woman carefully pulls down his pants; takes hold of the boy’s’ testicles and starts to squeeze and twist, gently at first and then ever so firmly.. tighter and tighter!!!

    After a few seconds the boy convulses violently and coughs up the last of the coins, which the woman deftly catches in her free hand.

    Releasing the boy’s testicles, the woman hands the coin to the father and walks back to her seat at the coffee bar without saying a word.

    As soon as he is sure that his son has suffered no ill effects, the father rushes over to the woman and starts thanking her saying, ‘I’ve never seen anybody do anything like that before, it was fantastic. Are you a doctor?’

    ‘No’, the woman replied, ‘I’m working in a Bank – Loan Department – Recovery Section………”

  87. #89 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 4, 2011 - 7:14 AM

    KARACHI: Pakistan will go all out for a comprehensive win against West Indies in the fifth and final One-day International to give themselves a ‘psychological boost’ ahead of the two-Test series that gets underway from May 12 in Guyana.

    Shahid Afridi, Pakistan’s limited-overs captain, stressed on Tuesday that he would want to hand over the captaincy to Test skipper Misbah-ul-Haq on a victorious note by leading the tourists to a 4-1 triumph in the ODI series on Thursday (tomorrow).

    Misbah, Pakistan’s Test captain, will be leading the visitors in the two Tests to be played in Guyana and St Kitts from May 12-20. Afridi, who has retired from Tests, will return home later this week.

    Pakistan took an unassailable 3-0 lead in the ODI series but were unable to realise their target of recording a 5-nil whitewash when they lost the fourth one-dayer in Bridgetown by one run under the Duckworth-Lewis Method. “It was disappointing to lose the last match but we remain highly motivated and are confident of wrapping up the series with a win to give Pakistan a boost ahead of the Test series,” said Afridi.

    Afridi was pleased with the performance of his new-look team, adding that Pakistan have the guts to do even better in the Test series. “We came here to win the (ODI) series and have achieved the target because of team work. I’m confident that the team will continue its winning spree in Tests as well.” Agencies add: Meanwhile, in Bridgetown (Barbados), West Indies captain Darren Sammy was a relieved man after his team managed a win against a Test side, other than Bangladesh, in an ODI since June 2009.

    “We needed that. It’s been a while since we hadn’t won against a higher ranked opposition and to do that, the guys will take the positives,” Sammy said. “We created an opportunity today and it was good to see the guys pulling us through in the end.” Pakistan compiled 248 for nine in 50 overs, as Mohammad Hafeez **** (138) and the 25-year-old Asad Shafiq (71) laid the platform for a challenging total with their sound stand, although the Pakistan middle order couldn’t supply the necessary tempo towards the end.

    “After the way Mohammad Hafeez and Asad Shafiq played on a difficult pitch I think we should have got 270-275,” said skipper Shahid Afridi. “I think we really missed that chance as we didn’t bat well at the end. “We’re disappointed because we missed an opportunity to set a higher score.”

    **** Mohammad Hafeez scored 121 in 138 balls and that is Geo News reporting above.****

  88. #90 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 4, 2011 - 8:45 AM


    You being a banker must have gotten this first hand experience for not paying your staff loan. 😀 And what I have heard from friends is, in the UAE there aren’t any female loan recovery agents or officers but, some highly experienced Pathans.

  89. #91 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 5, 2011 - 12:05 AM

    MOHSIN KHASEE KHAN deferred his resignation, we knew it, in Urdu it is called GEEDAR BHAPKI i.e., the fox tries to intimidate you but actually she is scared to death herself. Mohsin Khan is like an empty vessel which makes most noise. He knows which side of the bread’s butt he needs to butter. Btw, those who don’t there are two butts for every bread and it is not used in that sense, it is just that a bread’s butt is a bread butt and not Ijaz’s or, Salman’s Butt.

  90. #92 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 5, 2011 - 12:11 AM

    It seems that Afridi haters are leaving no opportunity in criticizing him after seeing his lack of batting form. What they should know here is the fact that it is Afridi who brought this mediocre and pathetic team to the WC semifinal when everyone wrote them off. It is Afridi who has won the ODI series in West Indies with this same pathetic team. It is Afridi who has turned Hafeez a discarded player by Inzamam, Shoaib Malik and Younus Khan into a match winner and a very good all-rounder who was written off and most people considered his career is over. But, today Hafeez is one the best all-rounders in the team and it is during Afridi’s captaincy that he has scored his two ODI centuries. So, Afridi haters bite your own foot and save your breath to cool your own porridge and keep worshiping mediocre and negative players like Misbah as Masters and Champions. Shame on you guys, Chulloo Bhurr Pani may Doob maro.

  91. #93 by Mohammed Munir on May 5, 2011 - 5:39 AM

    LOL @ Pathan recovery agents.

    If it was so then they will surely not squeeze only the testicles. 😉

  92. #94 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 5, 2011 - 8:49 AM

    You should know 😀

  93. #95 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 5, 2011 - 9:47 AM


    Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) said on Wednesday that Mohsin Hasan Khan, Chairman Selection Committee, is working with PCB for over a year and has done a commendable job.

    In a statement issued here, PCB said that the selection process for selecting a National Squad is that the Selection Committee selects the team, which is then sent to Chairman PCB for his approval. This is mandatory.

    If required, the Chairman PCB consults the Chairman Selection Committee on the selected squad and after due deliberation the squad is approved and announced, the statement said.

    The statement said that the National Selection Committee and Tour Selection Committee are two independent bodies and they seek mutual input but in no case one can interfere in the matters of the other.

    Following the submission of Test Squad for the West Indies tour for which the process stated in Para 2 above was duly followed. Khan was requested to come to PCB headquarters and explain his views to the Chairman PCB if required.

    He could not come due to illness of his wife. Now according to media reports he is holding a press conference without prior permission of PCB. This would be a violation of Code of Conduct and would be unfortunate, the statement said.

  94. #96 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 5, 2011 - 9:53 AM

    Hahahahaha what a good husband he is, he is there for her in ” sickness and in wealth. ” 😀

    If “MO-SIN” is a MAN he should stand up against the ugly Butt and his cronies and expose them – as it is Ijaz Butt is charged for indecent exposure – especially that father-in-law of Farhat called ilyass OMG, the PCB is so full of Ass & Butt.

    Yae Angraizaon kay zamanay kay Daangar hain, yae generations dur generations kay baad bhee nahee badlaingay, inhay tou sirf Balee Charhani paray gee, doosra koi raasta nahee.

  95. #97 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 5, 2011 - 5:19 PM

    Pathetic Pakistan bound to lose this match, history says they have never won more than 3 matches in the WI, so they are bound to lose this one. Only 140 to score WI are cruising at 34 for no loss in 6 overs.

    Umpiring is below par, first it was the Sri Lankan D’silva who needs to be kicked out, he gave Bichoo a wicket on silver platter when the ball pitched outside the leg stump, it was obvious by naked eye and confirmed by hawk-eye. The victim was Usman Salahuddin. Then the West Indian umpire, NA Malcom gave two LBW decisions in favour of Dwayne Bravo when the ball was clipping only the outside of the leg stump. Whereas, the same umpire refused to give Shahid Afridi his wicket for Kirk Edwards when the ball was hitting middle and leg stump. So, all in all so far 4 decisions went against Pakistan. But, this is not an excuse for Pakistan to play poorly.

    The wicketkeeper Salman dropped Edwards catch of the bowling off Shahid Afridi and also conceded a a couple of 4 byes and easy stopping which is definitely not a Pakistan Day today.

    Earlier the blunder of playing AHMAD SHAHZAD is like a ritual, I dunno who is behind this player? He is “disgustipatingly” pathetic and once again he scored 9 of 33 balls today. Dropping Asad Shafiq and retaining Misbah is another blunder, Misbah was plumb LBW and he was acknowledging God knows whom by raising hand that he is sorry! And, when he looked at the umpire’s finger he must have felt really sorry because he thought he was not out. What a pathetic player Misbah is and more pathetic are those who make him play.

    Other than Hafeez no one batted well. Umar Akmal is a highly over rated player and the moment he comes in Ramiz Raja goes GAGA he starts praising him like he is his own son by calling him an EXCITING PROSPECT and a TREAT TO WATCH, a 20 year old prodigy and blah, blah. When Junaid opened the bowling with Afridi, Raja started criticizing Afridi for not introducing Wahab instead using a 21 year old rookie. Just look at his biased view because one is from Punjab and the other is from NWFP and definitely the one who is from Punjab is KHALAS ……… pure. I don’t understand this KHALAS business.

  96. #98 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 5, 2011 - 6:53 PM


  97. #99 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 6, 2011 - 1:35 AM

    Seems like no one is interested in commenting about cricket because, it has been so dull, boring and uninteresting and now the test series is starting which would even be worst than this. So, I am going to write a new thread and change the subject completely. Hopefully our bloggers might find it interesting and may comment on it. Errrrr, Ahemmm… OK, not right now, I am not in a mood but definitely later in the night if I won’t sleep otherwise on Friday!

  98. #100 by Mohammed Munir on May 8, 2011 - 2:48 PM

    Never liked getting out on 99. 😦

    Here you go, this is comment no. 100. 8)

  99. #101 by JAVED A. KHAN on May 8, 2011 - 4:02 PM


    There is a new thread on your DEAR ASHAQ and you are still stuck in 99 kay phairay may?

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