DISCIPLINE VIOLATION, INCOMPETENT MANAGEMENT OR REGIONALISM?

Ijaz Butt has kicked Afridi's Butt, but will he have the last laugh?

The Shahid Afridi saga has taken the cricket world by storm. Pakistan cricket is again the laughing stock of the world. Non Pakistanis do not fathom the workings of this board, whereby a captain who did wonders in a World Cup has suffered this treatment. This thread is to explore what might have gone wrong and where?

DISCIPLINE

Shahid Afridi criticised the team management and said that he felt his work was being interfered with. On the face of it, for Pakistani standards this does not seem that offensive a statement. This thread is about the action PCB took as a result of Afridi’s outburst against the team management. What Afridi said thereafter, about Inti Alam, Alyas and the Punjab group, was obviously as a response to his sacking as captain. What else could Ijaz Butt be offended by? Shortly after the WC Afridi criticised Aamer Sohail when Sohail lambasted Afridi’s captaincy. Afridi used strong langauge- could this be a supporting reason, too?

Mohammad Ilyas used offensive and insulting language- he should be fined or suspended

If the remarks people say in retaliation also count in assessing discipline, should Mohammad Ilyas not be punished for using strong language against Afridi? He is a selector and has been fighting for his son in law’s selection for many years.

INCOMPETENT MANAGEMENT

Ijaz Butt was declared to be buffoon by Malcolm Speed, Geoff Lawson also called him incompetent and once the Indian cricket board also refused to hold any talks with him. The list of Butt’s failures is endless. Pakistan has changed 35 captains since 1992, and most of these changes have occasioned due to personal or political reasons and have little to do with merit. Ijaz Butt’s appointment was once applauded by those who were anti Musharraf and those who favoured the idea of having a cricketer as a Chairman, but now the same

Intikhab Alam's tenures as coach and manager have resulted in more negatives than positives. He is simply not competent to handle the team's affairs

people are vying for an educated and competent administrator instead of this uncouth buffoon. This blog was always opposed to this stupidity of having a cricketer as a Chairman. The PCB is an ocean of incompetence and most of the employees have been recruited for political reasons.

The other angle to the question of incompetence is that, why does the PCB not intervene when trouble is brewing up, and why are their policies only reactive? For example, it was Inti Alam’s responsibility to take Waqar and Afridi into confidence and ensure that there are no problems on either side. What kind of organisation is this that does not attempt to deal with damage limitation?

REGIONALISM

Punjabi people for obvious reasons reject the arguments of non-Punjabis as regards regionalism in Pakistan. The treatment of Miandad by Imran Khan and PCB admin, treatment of Rashid Latif, then more recently the example of players like Asim Kamal, Fawad Alam, Sohail Khan etc seems to indicate that the Lahore-dominated PCB carries a grudge against other towns and regions. Conversely, players like Imran Farhat, Kamran Akmal, Shoaib Malik, Salman Butt, Misbah, Abdur Rehman etc were repeatedly given chances to cement their positions in the team. Is there a pattern to this or is this non-Punjabi paranoia?

Younis Khan was treated disgracefully when he was at the peak of his game. And lastly, Shahid Afridi has accused the Punjab group for conspiring against him. A few years ago Afridi said something similar, “People who are against me are those who want a captain from Punjab”. Could anyone imagine the PCB insulting Imran Khan, Inzamam, Wasim or Waqar when they were at their peak, just like how the PCB has insulted Afridi and Younis?

So, does regionalism exist in Pakistan?

Ali Shah is one of the most seasoned administrators of PCB

Dr Mohd Ali Shah is a respected Sindh cricket administrator. He has criticised the PCB for conspiring against Sindh players. This is a serious allegation has it comes from a widely popular administrator. Not very long ago, Dr Kamran Abbasi, the famous cricket writer also commented that the allegations of regional bias against Ijaz Butt are serious and must be noted.

This thread does not intend to accuse Punjab of regionalism one way or the other. But, an independent fact finding comission must investigate the reasons for this treatment suffered by Afridi. There is now enough minority uproar against the majority Punjabis, for the PCB to consider official investigation into why the people of Sindh and KP believe their players are discriminated against. The winner in all this will be Pakistan, not one region or the other.

Similarly, whatever the truth of this sorry saga is- violation of discipline, just poor management, regionalism or even a combination of these three, the loser has only been Pakistan.

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  1. #1 by Jaheer Abass on June 4, 2011 - 9:41 AM

    new

  2. #2 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 4, 2011 - 1:19 PM

    Jaheer

    You have touched the raw nerve of the PCB administration in this thread, they are considering themselves as an elite or just like the Army does during a martial law i.e., they can say or do anything they like and no one can raise their voice against them, if they do, they are sacked and punished and t heir career is over.

    Look at this: Mohammad Asif
    brought more disgrace to the nation than anyone else by repeatedly indulging in drugs, booze and money. He was even jailed in Dubai and a Pakistani Senator went to Dubai he said, “Asaf is our Sali-Bretty and we cannot leave him in jail in Dubai. Talks were held at government level and Asif was brought home, not only that he was again selected for the national team that played a series in Australia and he then went to England was once again caught in the match fixing saga.

    Mohammad Aamir, he was not just praised but, worshiped by Ramiz Raja, Waqar and Wasim Akram who tried to show humility by saying Aamir is much better than I was when I was 17. What a way to praise? They left no stone unturned in praising him like a deity. Even the media was so supportive and still is that they want to bring him back into the team as soon as possible. This is the ugly management, they not only show their uneducated and uncouth behavior once in a while but, constantly repeating it.

    Jaheer I am glad that you have put the photo and video of Mohammad Alyass. He is more uglier than I thought he must have been. By ugliness I mean his uncouthness and his low life pathetic behaviour and the language he used against Afridi. Is there any CODE OF CONDUCT ON THE MANAGEMENT? Are they allowed to say whatever they feel like? Alyaas has also twisted Afridi’s words to create a mountain outta molehill. Afridi never mentioned about Alyass’s daughter or Farhat’s wife, he said, “Alyass wanted his son-in-law to be selected in the team and when he was not, he blamed me for opposing his inclusion.” As regards regionalism card, everyone knows there is discrimination against non-Punjabi players and it is a fact. Those who deny it are like an Ostrich burying its head under the sand.

    One can write a book on the ugliness of Ijaz Butt and still it is not enough to describe him and his uncouth character. One of the things that is missing in this thread is, when the Pakistani trio were accused of spot fixing, Butt blamed the English team for losing a match against Pakistan and he said, “I have ample proof that the English team has taken money from the bookies.” He thought his braggadocio will go unnoticed but, the British media made a big hue and cry so did the ECB and Butt secretly went to the UK and not only went on his kneels but even rolled over like a good dawg and happily came back saying: “Kurr Ditta” meaning I apologized and they accepted it. So far he has not apologized to the Sri Lankan team or, its player or the people of SL or the Govt.

    The irony is, the people of Pakistan have to deal with this rogue which is worse than a cancer for cricket in Pakistan..

  3. #3 by Jaheer Abass on June 4, 2011 - 10:14 PM

    De Silva, Jayasuriya involved in Match fixing : Hashan Tilkeratne

    Ex-Sri Lanka captain Hashan Thilekaratne has reportedly alleged that two former senior Lankan cricketers – Aravinda de Silva and Sanath Jayasuriya – and former Sri Lanka Cricket Board President Thilanga Sumathipala were involved in fixing international matches.

    Hashan met with Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa and disclosed to him many details about the cricketing scene in the country that have not yet been revealed, Lanka News Web reports.

  4. #4 by Jaheer Abass on June 4, 2011 - 11:47 PM

    <Salman Butt’s comments about Afridi:

    “This is a trick by Afridi….he has done it before”

    “He should stay quiet, if he wants to play cricket he needs to perform”

    “This is how he has played cricket in his career”

    “Board is not responsible. When Afridi goes to bat, the Board does not hold the bat for him. In 300 matches the Board has not been batting for him. When he cannot deliver results, he blames the coach or the Board. Since he became captain he has only won one or two series.”

  5. #5 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 5, 2011 - 3:38 AM

    yes, he has won one or two series but, previously Pakistan was a loser throughout . What else would you expect from NIKKI BUTT?

  6. #6 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 5, 2011 - 3:41 AM

    KARACHI: Former Pakistan limited-overs captain Shahid Afridi is due to return here on Sunday to sort out his cricketing problems after initiation of stern action by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB).

    Afridi, who led Pakistan in the World Cup semi-final in March this year, will appear before the PCB disciplinary committee through his legal firm Mandviwalla and Zafar Associates.

    After the code of conduct breach, the Board came hard on Afridi by terminating his central contract and all his NOCs for playing overseas.

    Meanwhile, welcoming banners for Afridi were seen in the different parts of the city, asking the fans to receive the all-rounder at the Jinnah International Airport on Sunday evening.

    Also, former Test cricketers blamed the PCB for mishandling Afridi’s case which led to his retirement.

    “I think Afridi shouldn’t have crossed the line at first. But if he had made the mistake, the PCB should have tackled the issue in a proper way,” former Test left-arm spinner Iqbal Qasim said.

    Former Test paceman Jalaluddin also blamed the PCB and touring management for handling the issue inappropriately.

    “Incompetency within the Board is the main problem that has caused damage to the national team beyond repair,” he
    lamented.

    Former Test wicket-keeper Saleem Yousuf while terming the present PCB regime a weak decision-making body felt sorry for the state of affairs in the board.

    He said if the PCB was not happy with Afridi’s captaincy after his poor individual performance during the West Indies then why they retained him for the two-match ODI series against Ireland.

    “The PCB has never learnt from its mistakes that in turn have caused more problems,” Saleem concluded.—APP

  7. #7 by Sagaat on June 5, 2011 - 6:46 AM

    Khansahab,

    It could be regionalism, it could be not– in Afridi’s case, we’re not sure. One thing is certain, that the board was just looking for an opportunity to remove Afridi from captaincy. Why did they appoint him as captain in the first place when they have wanted to remove him since his appointment? There was a review after the series in New Zealand before the world cup, then the world cup itself was a test,then the West Indies tour– it seemed that the board was looking for an opportunity to replace him and finally they had enough after the WI tour. Afridi made a remark and that was it.

    It seems to me that right after he was appointed, the board wanted to remove him. It was as if they realized they had made a mistake by appointing him, and were looking for an opportunity to remove him. Why? I don’t know, maybe the Afridis rubbed the board the wrong way?

  8. #8 by Mohammed Munir on June 5, 2011 - 9:12 AM

    Well written and perfectly timed analytical new thread. In fact I was waiting for a special thread on this latest controversy of PCB and a fresh thread was warranted.

    Reading from a few websites, listening to TV and reading newspapers, it seems they are all cursing and abusing Ijaz Butt. And rightly so.

    Although majority of Pakistani public is unanimously blaming BUTT for all this and are asking his unconditional removal from the PCB, however, a few peoples are placing some responsibility on Shahid Afridi also.

    Nevertheless, I must say that this time round, Afridi is playing all his cards very well because right from Rehman Malik, to Altaf Hussein, to Nawaz Sharif, to Bilawal and/or Bhutto/ Zardari, to many others are on Afridi’s side. I must say here that these politicians are not actually Afridi’s friends, but each one of them is trying to score a point with the masses by supporting a national cricketing hero like Afridi who is a favourite with the youth of cricket-crazy nation. So for these attention-seekers, it is more of a publicity stunt then helping poor old Afridi. Though, there is a much larger equation and so many of hidden agendas of these individuals, but the simple fact is that most senior politicians are taking side with Afridi.

    Another important news is that Ijaz Butt’s protecting god-father, that Defense Minister (I am forgetting his name), is also not in good terms with President Zardari in the aftermath of OBL and Mehran Airbase issues.

    So I think I will also have to agree with Javed Khan that this may really prove a final nail in the Butt’s Butt.

  9. #9 by Jaheer Abass on June 5, 2011 - 10:38 AM

    Sagaat

    Ever since Misbah made his return to international cricket there were always rumours that he would lead the team very soon. I don’t know whether the PCB was working on any agenda, but Afridi surprised everyone in the WC. And the truth is that, if Afridi had performed poorly in the WC as a player, then the team would never have made it so far. So, I think the PCB was half expecting Pakistan to be a disaster in the WC and then there would have been a licence to remove him.

    Another reason could be Afridi’s anti Indian statements following his return to Pakistan. The Pakistani media did not waste any time in spreading this around the whole world, but what they did not focus on was the fact that Afridi’s statements were in retaliation to the Indian media and Gautam Gambhir.

    Ijaz Butt has been at loggerheads with the BCCI in the past, so I don’t undestand how he could have been offended at Afridi’s statements? Maybe the PPP government was upset at Afridi because Gilani had visited India for cricket diplomacy and then the captain of the team on arrival back in Pakistan claimed that Pakistanis have bigger hearts.

    Munir sahab

    I agree with you that politicians are scoring points. Nawaz Sharif has observed that this is potentally an issue that can contribute in bringing down the PPP govt, because we all know that Ijaz Butt’s relative is a senior member of PPP. A few days ago PML N announced that they will do everything in their power to bring PPP down and soon after we learned that Nawaz Sharif telephoned Afridi.

    However, I don’t think MQM is scoring any points here. For a long time MQM has backed Afridi and Younis Khan. Once they threatened to force a nationwide strike if Younis was not reinstated as captain, when Younis resigned for some reason. You can call it principled politics (because they think that players from one region are discriminated against) or you can call it “point scoring”. I don’t think their stance should be criticised here because they have always protested against Punjab regionalism.

  10. #10 by Jaheer Abass on June 5, 2011 - 10:43 AM

    A 2nd string Indian team has defeated WI convincingly in T20.

  11. #11 by Mohammed Munir on June 5, 2011 - 11:24 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Keep your sweets ready, you will have to distribute them sooner then later.

    Remember, Fedex or DHL when sending my share of sweets to UAE. 😉

    PS: Reminds me, we have already got mangoes in UAE. Some ‘Dosehri, Anwer Ratole, & Sindhri have reached the markets, although still not fully ready.

  12. #12 by Sagaat on June 5, 2011 - 12:38 PM

    Khansahab,

    But they were hell-bent on removing Afridi as captain before the world cup, as well. It seemed as though had Pakistan lost the series against NZ, Afridi wouldn’t have led the team in the world cup (which the board I think was expecting). But, after winning the series, the board had no justification to remove him. I don’t understand if they were so hell-bent on removing him, why did they appoint him as captain in the first place?

    I think something must have happened in between the NZ series and after his appointment as captain.

  13. #13 by Jaheer Abass on June 5, 2011 - 1:59 PM

    Sagaat

    Yeah, I remember there was a conspiracy to remove him before the WC. Maybe they gave him one last chance in the WC and hoped that he would not cause the management any further problems? However, I think he surprised everyone with his performance. I think the PCB separated the issue of performance from discipline.

    My argument was that, the type of captains Imran Khan, Inzamam and Wasim Akram were, I am sure they were causing “discipline” problems right left and centre. But they were respected, tolerated and given full powers. Why couldn’t they do that to Afridi? They say that they are trying to curb player power. The attitudes of Imran, Inzamam and Wasim had a positive effect on the team’s performance. Similarly, they should have given a free reign to Younis and Afridi as well.

    It is not this kind of player power that has destroyed Pakistan cricket. It is the power exercised by players like Shoaib Akhtar who could never be handled by the management. It is the power given to mediocre players like Shoaib Malik, Misbah and K Akmal who have won very few matches, drawn more or single handledly lost matches due to their negative gameplay.

  14. #14 by Jaheer Abass on June 5, 2011 - 2:04 PM

    BREAKING NEWS

    According to a respected website there is a rumour that Ijaz Butt will be removed as PCB Chairman soon and Zardari’s business partner and controversial former Sindh minister, Zulafkar Mirza will take Butt’s position.

  15. #15 by Jaheer Abass on June 5, 2011 - 2:14 PM

    KARACHI: Huge billboards have sprung up at vantage points in the city urging cricket lovers to welcome sacked Pakistan captain, Shahid Afridi when he returns from England on Sunday night.

    The billboards, put up by a hitherto unknown “Pakistan cricket lovers forum”, display a picture of Afridi in the green Pakistan kit and declare him as the “pride of Pakistan” and urge the people to reach the Karachi airport to welcome Afridi when he returns today at 8.00 PM.

    “It is a big sign that Afridi has geared up himself up for a long legal and otherwise battle with the board in order to come out of the ongoing controversy with his reputation unharmed,” a former Pakistan captain said.

    He pointed out that Afridi and his supporters wanted to ensure a big turn up at the airport to welcome him tonight to send a clear message to the board he is not alone and remains hugely popular among the masses.

    When he returned from the World Cup few months back large number of people showed up at the airport to welcome him whole heartedly.

    Afridi has been directed to appear before disciplinary committee of the board on June 8 in Lahore to respond to several charges of violating the player’s code of conduct in his central contract.

  16. #16 by Jaheer Abass on June 5, 2011 - 2:17 PM

    Former cricketer Shah says planned conspiracy to finish Afridi

    Lahore, June 5 (ANI): Former first class cricketer Tahir Shah has appealed the Pakistan President Zardari and Prime Minister Gilani to look into the issue of Shahid Afridi’s retirement, which is a planned conspiracy against him.

    Tahir Shah said that the PCB Chief Ijaz Butt and selection and disciplinary committees are biased in Afridi’s case and want to destroy his career, which is still bright as he is able to win for Pakistan single-handedly, The Nation reports.

    Criticizing the PCB chairman Ijaz Butt, he said as Butt has failed to eliminate match fixing from cricket, he must resign from his post. He is destroying cricket in country and has also destroyed careers of many players.

    He also criticized the selector, M Ilyas, for his disputed acts and statement against Afridi and violating code of conduct. (ANI)

  17. #17 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 5, 2011 - 2:17 PM

    A majority of the people in Pakistan are supporting Afridi’s case and condemning Ijaz Butt and Alyass for their uncouth behaviour, rash and unjustified decision in sacking Afridi for a trivial reason and on top of that the hefty fine (Rs.50million) is absolutely inconsistent with the charges that has been leveled against him. The 4 member committee or the tribunal set up by the PCB is obviously going to give a decision in favour of the PCB. Afridi is not likely to win this case even if the whole of Pakistan stands up in his support and rally around, “bakaoz” Butt will never admit his mistakes and he will never accept defeat. All he needs is a kick in his Butt along with his a$$hole Alya$$.

    Sagaat, the reason Afridi was appointed captain at that time was because there was no one, now they think that Misbah is doing fine (according to them but, not according to the whole of Pakistan who considers Misbah as the key for Pakistan’s defeat in the WC). All they want to show to people is some STUPID STATISTICS of Misbah that he scored so many runs and his average is this, and he is a very sound player. The reality is he is a very negative player and that they (the PCB and Girayeen) don’t want to see or even hear.

    I am keenly watching this and waiting for the day when there will be “Butt come Jehan Pak” it is (Khass Kam Jehan Pak) it means jitni gundh kam hogi Jehan utna pak hoga. And Ijaz’s Butt is loaded with you know what? Butt ka Sala is Ahmad Mukhtar who is the Defence Minister in Pakistan and Butt is clinging on to his Sala’s 3a!!$.

  18. #18 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 5, 2011 - 2:25 PM

    Munir

    Apna address tou dou, how will you get Sweets then? Or else, you can go to Abu Dhabi on Electra Street there is one “Butt Sweets” in Arabic it is written “Halwiyaat Al Butt” you go there and get some for yourself. I have seen some foreigners (goray) often taking pictures of that sign board that in Abu Dhabi you get Butt Sweets 😀

    Regarding Mangoes, we are also getting them here (Thanks to PIA’s non stop flights from Karach in Lahore to Toronto) but, they are not ready yet. Indian Alfonso was in the market sometime back, but we couldn’t get that either because, those who sell that mangoes are very far from my place and the wholesaler from whom I take mangoes does not bring any Indian mangoes, in fact they don’t sell it to him and sell it directly to their own retailers. And the most important thing is, Alfonso is sold more than double the price of Pakistani mangoes and it is not that great either. Example, we get Chonsa Box for $11 from the wholesaler and $13 from the retailer. Whereas, Alfonso is sold by retailers for $28. Other than Anwer Ratole and Chaunsa, I don’t like any other Pakistani mango.

  19. #19 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 5, 2011 - 2:32 PM

    Jaheer

    It wasn’t an easy win for India, at one stage CD Barnell gave the Indians a scare when in one over he scored 20 runs in his quickfire 34 not out in 16 balls. Their openers played like Misbah i.e., the first 2 overs were maiden. You cannot afford to win with that kinda start. So, basically West Indies Misbahed the match. And, look at Darren Sammy he took the first top three wickets plus Riana’s, four for 16 in 4 overs is good and Pakistan has finally given him the confidence and now Indians are giving him the momentum.

  20. #20 by JAVED A. KHAN on June 5, 2011 - 2:46 PM

    Jaheer Abass

    Who is this in your gravatar? Alyass? 😀

  21. #21 by Jaheer Abass on June 5, 2011 - 2:50 PM

    Javed A Khan

    It is Shang Tsung, a Mortal Kombat game character.

    I think he has more refined looks than Alyas.

  22. #22 by Jaheer Abass on June 5, 2011 - 2:52 PM

    IJAZ BUTT SACKED.

    ZULFIQAR MIRZA IS THE NEW PCB CHAIRMAN.

    Zulfiqar Mirza, controversial minister who once said, “We will break Pakistan”.

  23. #23 by Jaheer Abass on June 5, 2011 - 3:04 PM

    new thread

  24. #24 by Sagaat on June 5, 2011 - 3:07 PM

    I am surprised that Ijaz Butt has been sacked. I thought Afridi would go like Yousof, but here we are…under Butt’s leadership Pakistan team became a nothing team, as he couldn’t quell player power (in the form of Umar Akmal, Kamran Akmal, and company), and he ruined the careers of the cream in Yousof and Younis in the name of quelling playing power. Now lets see if Afridi returns as captain or not…?

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