FROM CHAMPIONS TO MINNOWS

It's difficult to believe this WC winning team got thrashed in a one-sided tour

One wonders whether international cricket has witnessed such a twist of fate before. The World Cup victory a few months ago marked a new beginning for the Indian team. People spoke of a new era of dominance which would see India match up to the invincible Australians, the domineering South Africans and the ascending England team.

This was a high profile tour where arguably two of the world’s best teams would fight it out in tough conditions. Yet, India failed to provide any competition and could not win a single international fixture. In the final ODI a glimmer of hope was provided when Ian Bell was dismissed but India’s spineless bowling allowed the debutant Bairstow to steal the game from India.

A "fast" bowler who can't bowl fast

It would perhaps be unfair not to offer any sympathy to India for losing Zaheer Khan and Harbhajan Singh, their two best bowlers of the past few years, at the start of the tour. Yet, why has the rich and powerful BCCI not prepared any replacements for these cricketers? Whereas bowlers like Ojha and Mishra have made an impact at international level, they are not consistent and often do not look any more threatening than Harbhajan. As for fast bowlers, the less said the better. It is pathetic that India cannot produce consistent fast bowlers. What is the reason for this?

India had to face unfit senior players for at least half this tour. Agreed that the likes of Sehwag, Gambhir, Tendulkar, Zaheer and Harbhajan are big players, but more was expected from Raina, Jadeja and Dravid in the ODI series. In the Test series, apart from Dravid every batsman underperformed. The story with India’s fast bowlers remains the same- they just could not make an impact.

Dhoni in his post match presentation in the final ODI remarked that Munaf Patel is a crucial bowler at

A forgettable tour for Viru and Gauti

the death for India. Somehow, using the word “death” in the same sentence as Munaf Patel seems very fitting because Patel’s bowling generally kills India’s chances of winning matches. One can say that India was unlucky with so many injuries on this tour but, sometimes you have to make your own luck and not having any able replacements for senior players is the fault of the BCCI at the end of the day. Plus, what good were senior players in the Test series anyway? Sehwag was a total failure, Tendulkar was nervy, Gambhir was not noticed at all and Laxman could not make any meaningful contribution.

It is difficult to remember any series where so many of India’s weaknesses have been exposed. It cannot be a coincidence that so many of India’ mighty batsmen just failed collectively. There is surely a problem with mindset or ability to play an organised and methodical opposition. Plus, how come Dravid was able to score runs in the Test series? And how come Dhoni played so well in the ODI series if there is a collective problem? The truth is that India lacks in the planning department and they were not mentally prepared to handle a dominant and disciplined opposition. Unless India works hard on its mindset it will suffer similar defeats when touring South Africa and Australia in high profile series.

This tour exposed flaws with Dhoni's captaincy. He now needs to sit with the BCCI to discuss the future of Indian cricket

Apart from planning and gaining in mental strength, India also needs to produce some quick bowlers. It is ridiculous that Indian bowlers can’t muster more than 80-83 mph consistently. When you analyse India’s lacklustre bowling you are minded to believe that the World Cup was won by Zaheer Khan’s and Yuvraj Singh’s bowling. I think someone on this blog mentioned this recently and it is probably true. It is laughable though that a part timer like Yuvraj can be expected to do the job which Harbhajan, Munaf, Nehra and RP are meant to do.

In a few months India has gone from being champions to minnows. This is high time for some introspection for the Indian think tank and this is the time to shun excuses relating to tiredness and injuries. The bottom line in India was not good enough. The BCCI needs to consider whether IPL is good for Indian cricket in the long run. India needs to get a specialist fast bowling coach who is more experienced and skilled than Venkatesh Prasad because apart from Zaheer Khan the Indian fast bowling unit is a laughing stock.

India needs to remedy these problems before they play South Africa and Australia at home grounds. If they do not, the “IPL, injury and tiredness” excuses will not work any further and they will join Pakistan at the bottom of Test rankings.

Is India on its way to becoming a Test minnow like these guys?

 

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  1. #1 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 16, 2011 - 11:28 PM

    new thread

  2. #2 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 16, 2011 - 11:39 PM

    Javed A Khan

    About Shah Mahmood, he is certainly a charismatic and articulate individual. I don’t know how good his performance was as a Foreign Minister. But, my only reservation is his deep and longstanding association with an extremely corrupt mafia (PPP).

    I don’t want to believe he is corrupt but reportedly he was very close to Benazir.

  3. #3 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 17, 2011 - 2:06 AM

    khansahab

    As far as I know, he comes from a PIR family and his father Sadiq Hussain Qureshi was Governor or, Cheif Minister of Punjab and their family is very rich since many generations and reportedly there is no greed or unfair means that could have attracted him. Prior to FM of Pakistan Shah Mahmood was Finance Minister of Punjab and he was also with PML (N) resigned because of differences between him and Mian Sahab. I was told that after he left PML (N) it was BB who approached him to join PPP because of his family background, educational background and his clean record. As a Foreign Minister he was performing very well and he resigned from that post because he did not want to compromise on principles. You know that he was being removed from the post of FM because of the pressure in Raymond Davies case and Zardari wanted to give him another portfolio which he did not accept. Do you think this CHAMAK CHALLO Hina Rabbani Khar is capable of handling the post of a Foreign Minister? This is all BS and drama baazi, more of a Show Biz than anything else.

    As far as Shah Mahmood’s academic qualifications are concerned he studied at the University of Cambridge very seriously in becoming a lawyer unlike our Play Boy Hero – who played more with girls than he played cricket or, concentrating at studies. In 1972, he enrolled to study Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Keble College, Oxford, where he graduated with a second-class degree in Politics and a third in Economics.

    As regards his affairs, you can find them on the Wiki, here is an excerpt. “Imran Khan became known as a socialite due to his “non-stop partying” at London nightclubs such as Annabel’s and Tramp. though he claims to have hated English pubs and never drank alcohol. He also gained notoriety in London gossip columns for romancing young debutantes such as Susannah Constantine, Lady Liza Campbell and the artist Emma Sergeant.”

    Ps.

    And, don’t forget the GORI SITA.

  4. #4 by Bichoo on September 17, 2011 - 2:39 AM

    Khansahab,

    LOL @ the comment on death and Munaf Patel … they guy has lost so many matches, and quite simply I can’t stand the look on the face of this idiot, but kaptan kool Dhoni thinks Munaf is his crucial bowler. Says a lot about Dhoni’s intelligence, the guy was simply lucky several times. I don’t get it for the life of me why Dhoni is in love with trundlers like Munaf, RP Singh, Vinay Kumar.

  5. #5 by Bichoo on September 17, 2011 - 2:43 AM

    A more apt title of this thread is Dhoni’s love affair with match losers. Take the long list of pathetic losers Dhoni has had in his team since he was captain. Joginder Sharma the guy who bowled final over of T20 final to Misbah, who only Misbah will get out to. Munaf Patel, the ‘spin’ bowler who cannot spin, less said better. RP Singh, match loser and club level trundler. Vinay Kumar, domestic trundler who don’t quality for club cricket. Ravidra Jadeja, loser and nothing player. The list goes on and on…. Dhoni had not developed one confident player. Perhaps he is insecure that strong aggresive players will take over him and his powers? someone need to think about this and write a thread on it.

  6. #6 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 17, 2011 - 1:24 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Yes, I know SMQ resigned because of differences with the party line. And since then he has been attacked by some of the party leadership. He went to meet MQM very shortly after his resignation and this was criticised by his party.

    As for Hina Khar, it is a joke to appoint her on such a senior position. It was Zardari’s ploy to get back at SMQ- to appoint a young minister who looks ill equipped to run a restaurant, let alone Pakistan’s foreign ministry. She is just “beauty without brains” and glamour, and I don’t even think she has any real decision making authority.

  7. #7 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 17, 2011 - 1:39 PM

    Afridi will play in Lahore despite dengue fears

    KARACHI:
    Despite concerns shown by Karachi’s regional association, former Pakistan captain Shahid Afridi has confirmed his participation in the season-opening Twenty20 event in Lahore despite the spread of dengue in the city.

    The all-rounder, who will lead Karachi Dolphins, is looking ahead to the event where some participating teams have expressed concerns over the deadly virus that has claimed over 25 lives in Lahore.

    The Karachi City Cricket Association (KCCA) called for a venue-shift, arguing that players were concerned about their safety. The Afghanistan Cricket Board, which will be sending a team from the country, also voiced their concern over the state of the city. The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), however, rejected all concerns, saying precautionary measures have been taken and the event will go as planned from September 25.

    Afridi, though, is keen to return to action.

    “I will take part in the tournament,” the experienced all-rounder confirmed to The Express Tribune. “I am focusing on a good show for my team in order to achieve best results. I want to play cricket as much as I can to avoid rustiness. It will be a good tournament and I am not going to miss this opportunity.”

  8. #8 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 17, 2011 - 1:44 PM

    Wrong to drop Rahul Dravid in 2007: Ganguly

    CARDIFF: Former Indian skipper Sourav Ganguly on Friday showered praise on Rahul Dravid and said it was wrong to have dropped him from the ODI team three years ago.

    Dravid, who led the Indian team in the 2007 World Cup, has been in and out of the ODI team since then. He decided to retire from this format after the selection committee included him in the ODI series in England after many top players became unavailable due to injuries.

    “It was wrong to have dropped him at that time,” Ganguly told TOI on Friday during the India-England fifth ODI.

  9. #9 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 17, 2011 - 1:48 PM

    Congrats to Aleem Dar for willing the Best Umpire award for the 3rd time, apparently.

    Dar and Rauf are amongst the best umpires today.

  10. #10 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 17, 2011 - 1:52 PM

    Good news about India series soon, says Butt

    LAHORE – The Pakistan Cricket Board and the Board of Control for Cricket in India have made some positive progress in their efforts to organise the first bilateral series in nearly five years and it is now almost certain that the series will take place next year. The eagerly-awaited series between Pakistan and India most likely would be played in March-April next year. Reports from the PCB sources say that most of the problems for holding the series have been resolved and only the go ahead is being awaited from the Indian government. An official said: “The Indian board is awaiting its government’s final clearance and only after that the schedule will be finalsied and confirmed.
    Pakistan last played India in 2007 and their bilateral series was hampered by the terrorist attack of Mumbai. Although the teams have clashed in a few ICC events but since then they have not played a complete series. PCB chairman Ijaz Butt had recently visited India and also sought the help of Sharad Pawar for the possibility of a bilateral series and claimed that the talks held were quite positive.
    Butt said: “I held discussions with Indian officials. Both countries have shown their eagerness for the revival of the series. We are working on finalising terms and conditions and the fans will hear the good news soon.”
    However, the PCB chief has lately demanded the Indian team to play a return series, which they were supposed to play after Pakistan’s visit to India in 2007. He made it clear that the Pakistan will only finalise the Indian tour once the rivals face each other in a series hosted by Pakistan. Pakistan has been deprived of home series since the 2009 terrorist attack on the Sri Lankan team and the terrorism in the country also cost the PCB the hosting right of the Champions Trophy and the chance to host the 2011 World Cup matches.

  11. #11 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 17, 2011 - 2:30 PM

    yeah, I couldn’t stop laughing at the sentence on death and Munaf Patel. The problem with Munna Patel is when he takes a wicket or two he is on the 7th Ceil and if he is thrashed, he starts cursing the fielders…. and then he is finished for that match. Gawali ka Juddoo ayaa aur, Juddoo gaya, koi farq nai para, laikin dil ko Saand ko taskeen tou hoi hogi?

  12. #12 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 17, 2011 - 2:40 PM

    khansahab

    Butt’s optimism is always very tricky. He comes back from a tour and to avoid criticism from the media, he throws a bag of goodies at the media so that they get busy with what is in it? In reality what the result or outcome of his meeting has been, will come out from the country where he visited and they will obviously deny what Butt has said, and then Butt will say: “They agreed with me how come they change their views now?” He is a Pukka Jhoota and Kaiyaan aadmi.

    Recently I heard an Indian Muslim guy from Bihar was cursing at Ijaz Butt like this: “BabhooWa Gaadhay Ka Poot, Daadhii Jaar wala, Yai ka Bhupki Aaway, Yai Ka Hulki Aaway, Array Buttwa tu Koni Chinaree ko Paida kita heest?” Munir should translate this Purbi or Bihari for the rest of us.

  13. #13 by Mohammed Munir on September 18, 2011 - 5:21 AM

    Good new thread analyzing few of the reasons for India’s failures.

    India’s Panoti-tour finally comes to a sad end.

    Although Team India was beaten thoroughly with huge margins and innings defeats in the Tests, but in ODIs they came so close to winning a few times. Nevertheless, out of five ODIs, one was no-result (due to rain) while one was a tie and India lost 3 – 0 as if it was in their destiny not to win even a single game on this tour. 😦

    We hope to see some responses/ inputs from Varun Suri, Pawan, and few other of our Indian bloggers on what went wrong, why & where.

  14. #14 by Mohammed Munir on September 18, 2011 - 5:23 AM

    Quote of the day …

    Keep your face to the sunshine and you will not see the shadows.

  15. #15 by Mohammed Munir on September 18, 2011 - 5:32 AM

    Javed Khan …

    I have read the above comment no. 12 (Indian Muslim guy from Bihar was cursing at Ijaz Butt), a few times but I honestly could not make a head or tail of it. I thought it was Bihari language because this is how that guy ‘Laloo Parsad’ speaks, but what is Purbi ❓

  16. #16 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 18, 2011 - 6:53 PM

    Cricket: Former players term Waqar’s stint successful

    KARACHI:
    With the conclusion of the sucessful Zimbabwe tour, Waqar Younis’ tenure as Pakistan coach has come to an end as former players and team management hail the performance of the former captain.

    Former team manager Intikhab Alam, who also heads the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) committee formed to find Waqar’s replacement, has given a thumbs-up to the former fast-bowler’s performance and termed his tenure a successful one.

    Former chief selector Abdul Qadir hoped Waqar could serve Pakistan cricket in the future while former captain Aamir Sohail believed that controversies came in his way to do better.

    Waqar, who took over as head coach in March 2010 after Pakistan’s win-less Australia tour, announced before that he would quit the post after the Zimbabwe series citing health reasons.

    During his 18-month stint, his first as head coach, Pakistan reached the semi-finals of the World Cup, won a Test and One-Day International series against hosts New Zealand, clinched the ODI series against West Indies and Ireland before whitewashing Zimbabwe.

    However, Waqar’s term was filled with controversies, first by the spot-fixing scandal in England before reports of rifts between him and former captain Shahid Afridi resulted in the retirement of the all-rounder. A heavy loss to England in the Test series also tarnished an otherwise impressive show by Pakistan.

    Waqar’s exit to affect continuity: Alam

    Alam, who was replaced by Waqar, felt the 39-year-old did a good job given the amount of young blood in the team.

    “He did a good job,” Alam told The Express Tribune. “It’s a demanding job and Waqar handled it well.

    “The team started showing progress and his exit will affect continuity.”

    ‘Lack of coaching experience may have created issues’

    Meanwhile, Qadir said that Waqar’s lack of coaching experience may have raised issues linked to team management.

    “I know Waqar as a sincere and hard working person,” said Qadir. “He has given huge services to Pakistan as a cricketer and coach.

    But I believe his issue with Afridi was just because of his lack of experience as coach,” said the former leg-spinner.

    He could have done much better: Sohail

    However, Sohail felt his time with the team could have been more fruitful. “His service as a coach was relatively better,” said Sohail. “But to me he failed as per expectations because he was a legendary cricketer.

    “This may have happened because he was based abroad or issues within the team management hampered his performance.”

  17. #17 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 18, 2011 - 6:54 PM

    Shahid Afridi considers return to national squad

    KARACHI: Former Pakistan Captain Shahid Afridi said Saturday he was considering a return to the national team and would make a decision in the next few months, Geo News reported.

    While speaking to the media the former skipper said he had differences with Coach Waqar Younis but things were improving since Younis would no longer be the coach following the tour of Zimbabwe.

    Afridi added that there was intense pressure on him to return to playing international cricket and he would make a decision after consulting his close friends.

    Afridi had decided to leave international cricket citing differences between him and Waqar Younis and former manager Intikhab Alam.

  18. #18 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 19, 2011 - 12:29 AM

    What a great player SHOAIB MALIK is, and in what a great form he is that he blocking the career of a young talent called HAMMAD AZAM.

    I swear (shouldn’t) that Misbah and Malik and and one of the wicketkeepers Akmal must be permanently out of the Pakistan Team.

    Munir

    Purbi is from POORAB or language of the East, and it is spoken in MP mainly (Madhya Pradesh) and even Bihari has a few similar words and sentences. Do you want me to translate it for you, or let it go?

    I heard that Altaf Hussain also copy cat Zulfiqar Mirza by placing the Holy Quran on his head and he was reportedly even dancing and singing, is it true? Salay sab kay sab Bhaand hain. I never liked Altaf as a leader but, there is something good that happened for Mohajirs that they are on Pakistan’s map now and are recognized as a community or whatever. As Pathans we too are Mohajirs everywhere and even here in Canada we are immigrants. So, the label of Mohajirs goes back from the period of Prophet’s time, Ansar and Mohajirs. In Dubai we were KHARJEE (non-Arabs or, expatriates). Duniya may hurr jagga, firqay hain, zaat paat ka chakkar hai aur na jaanay kya kya…. Sometime later I will write you a nice prose on Zaat, Paat that I copied it from some Urdu Afsana about 10 years ago, I need to find out but, I have kept is somewhere. Its nice and meaningful.

  19. #19 by Mohammed Munir on September 19, 2011 - 6:29 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Although, I knew Poorab and Pachhim, but I didn’t know Purbi. Thanks for explaining, and yes since the comment is about iJazz Butt, I would like to know the meaning, so you can kindly translate it for me. 😉

    On Muhajirs, I am with you because I too am actually a Muhajirs here. BTW, this term “Muhajir” is not specifically for someone who have migrated (Hijrat) only from one country to another, because those Muslims who migrated from Makkah to Madina were all Muhajirs even though they migrated (Hijrat) from one city to another over a small distance of only few hundred kilometers between two cities. Therefore, technically speaking all the Punjabis, Pukhtoons and even Sindhis who are living and working in Karachi and have come from different parts of Pakistan are also Muhajirs in their own country, but you will not hear MQM leaders speaking about these Muhajirs, and I don’t want to go into what all is happening to them in Karachi (which is still their own country).

    Believe me, my interest in Pakistani politics is zilch, because there are enough problems in the country to go into dirty politics and I think all the politicians are corrupt and disloyal, while within them there are the levels (Darjaat) and some are relatively better then others. Thanks for mentioning the name of Shah Mehmood Quraishi, yes I agree with you on him and he is relatively better of the lot and so is Imran Khan, no doubts.

    The fact is that we can not be so lucky to have the best-of-the-best and a ‘Doodh Ka Dhula’ 100% perfect leader to lead our country, so the second best option is to accept the ‘relatively’ better leaders among the available choices. Pakistani have to learn to make some compromises.

    As you always say, no one is perfect, except Allah so the Pakistanis have to accept this by comparing and evaluating our available leaders against each others and then go for the least corrupt or ‘relatively’ better leaders.

    PS : Finally, what all you heard about Altaf Hussain is absolutely true, in fact it is only part of the whole-truth because he did a lot more. Although, we can argue that it was in response to Zulfiqar Mirza’s comments but two wrongs don’t make a right and this kind of retaliation is just much much below the belt. 😉

  20. #20 by tom on September 19, 2011 - 8:12 AM

    Shahid Afridi wont have an easy ride going back into the pakistani team. Butt and co. dont seem to be happy with his antics and a lot of appeasing and polishing may work (even that is not certain). It seems that Waqar was the only reason for his departure and it seems quite strange although initially it seemed it was the entire Butt gamut. In hindsight, Afridi made a mistake by leaving the team and issuing inflammatory statements.

  21. #21 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 19, 2011 - 9:03 AM

    Someone has forwarded me an email about the sad demise of India’s ex-captain Mohammad Azharuddin’s young son Ayazuddin died in a motor-bike accident just a couple of days ago, obviously Azhar is devastated. Its a sad day in Azhar’s life, no father would like to bury his children. This motor-bike culture has killed so many people, last year one of my neighbour’s son hardly 18 years old died in a motor bike accident. Not to mention that when I was a teenager, I used to ride a bike too but, lucky to survive after 2 accidents, the first one was at a high speed but, no bones broken, the second one was not at high speed but, a few bones broken and I was told by my dad, ENOUGH. And, I sold the motor bike, never to ride again,

    Here, I have seen some real dreadful and fatal accidents with my own eyes on the highways. And these are the worst days when the Fall season begins because bikers want to make the best use of the short summer here and when it rains in the night, sometimes the mornings are frosty and the black ice helps in skidding, which people don’t realize how fatal it is.

    Munir, the meaning of that Poorbi is not so good so, let it be, it is better not to translate. Its like you don’t want to talk about Altaf Hussain’s recent antics and I don’t want to hear it either, I agree that he is a complete buffoon.

    On your Mohajir issue, I know that those who went from Makkah to Medina were called Mohajirs but, those who went from Amritsar, Jallundher, Ludhiana or, Ferozepur to Lahore are NOT Mohajirs but, a few kilometers down South from Punjab i.e,, those who went from UP to Lahore are still called Mohajirs. Because, that Punjab border line be it in India and Pakistan distinguishes from the elite class to the poor class and those who are not from that class are – Mohajirs. It is like Galadairs, Al-Futtaims and Khoory families are in the UAE since 200 years but, they are not the same as Al Hameli, Al Habtoor, or Al Tayer (not to mention the Al Maktoums and the Al Nahayans)/ Yae Zaat Paat kay chakkar nay Hazrat-e-Adam ki aulaad ko million firqaon may tajseem ker diya!

  22. #22 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 19, 2011 - 3:15 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I heard about Ajaruddin’s son and it is really sad. Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi rajioon.

    I am sorry for him losing his son but I would have been more sympathetic if he hadn’t been involved in match fixing.

    He is just like Ajay Jadeja and Pakistani match fixers, to me.

  23. #23 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 19, 2011 - 3:19 PM

    Azharuddin and 4 Others Are Punished for Cricket Match Fixing : Former India Captain Banned

    NEW DELHI— Mohammed Azharuddin, the former India captain and one of world cricket’s finest batsmen, was banned from the sport for life Tuesday for his involvement in match fixing.

    The Board of Control for Cricket in India, or BCCI, whose role in the matter had come under criticism from India’s federal investigation agency, known as the CBI, also announced bans for three other players and a former India team physiotherapist.

    Ajay Sharma, who played for the country in one test match against the West Indies in 1989, also was banned for life. Ajay Jadeja, a middle-order batsman, Dr. Ali Irani, a physiotherapist, and, ironically, Manoj Prabhakar, who started the scandal when he accused others of match fixing, all received five-year bans for their involvement with bookmakers.

    “This is a sad day in the annals of Indian cricket,” A.C. Muthiah, chief of the BCCI, said after a meeting of the board’s disciplinary committee in Madras.

    “There is clear evidence of match fixing against Azharuddin,” Muthiah said. “There also is evidence that Sharma acted as a conduit for match fixing. That’s why we clubbed the two of them together and gave life bans. Others had nexus with bookmakers and introduced players to the bookmakers, which is a serious breach of cricketing codes.”

    The BCCI has been under pressure since the release of a CBI report on match fixing in November. The report accused these players of having links with bookies and of “under-performing” in return for huge sums of money. In a country where cricket means what soccer does in Europe, there has been a public outcry demanding punishment for the guilty.

    The CBI devoted a full chapter of its report to the BCCI. The report said that while there was no evidence that any officials were involved in match fixing, such a widespread racket was not possible without their knowledge.

    Before the CBI report become public, Azharuddin said he was being targeted because, as a Muslim, he belonged to the minority community. He did not comment Tuesday.

    Sharma, the other player banned for life, told a news agency that “the decision of the board is arbitrary” and that he was “going to seek legal remedy.”

    Jadeja denied any wrongdoing and said he would appeal against the punishment. “I have to restore my credibility,” he said. “I will appeal to the board and even go to the court to get justice.”

    The CBI report had linked Sharma with Azharuddin, saying the former was responsible for introducing the bookmaker Mukesh Gupta to Azharuddin. Hansie Cronje, the South African captain banned in October, has said Azharuddin introduced him to Gupta in 1997 in India.

    Given the nature of politics in India — the governing Bharatiya Janata Party is a rightist Hindu party — the indictment of Azharuddin might have the potential of becoming a socially explosive issue. The situation may be defused by the fact that there are others being punished who do not belong to the minority community.

    The most bizarre and mysterious role in the matter is that of Prabhakar. The scandal began in India in 1997 when Prabhakar wrote, in a signed article in a Delhi-based magazine, that he was offered 2.5 million rupees ($53,000) by a teammate to underperform in a match against Pakistan in 1994.

    When Prabhakar later said that the player was Kapil Dev, the great Indian all-rounder and team captain, he sent the nation into a tailspin. In May, shortly after Cronje was charged in India and accused of fixing two matches against India in 1999, the government ordered the CBI probe.

    The CBI exonerated Kapil but alleged that Prabhakar had played a leading role in introducing international cricketers to Gupta, including Brian Lara, the former West Indies captain; Alec Stewart, the former England captain; Dean Jones, the Australian batsman; and Arjuna Ranatunga and Arvinda de Silva, the former Sri Lankan captains.

    “I launched the crusade to cleanse the game and I have succeeded in doing it,” Prabhakar said. “But I feel sad that the BCCI did not even have the courtesy to note the contribution I made to clear the dirt. It instead equated me with other players.

    “There is a lot of difference between me and them. I was fighting against the system of which they were a part.”

    Prabhakar’s accusation in 1997 had appeared against a backdrop of widespread allegations of match fixing by Pakistani players and accusations by two Australian players — Mark Waugh and Shane Warne — that a former Pakistani captain, Salim Malik, had offered them bribe to throw a test match.

    The Indian public was willing to believe that match fixing happened outside its own borders, but those who pointed fingers at Indian players were called “traitors” and even “anti-national.”

    Pakistan was the first country to react to the allegations. After a judicial probe, Malik was banned for life and Wasim Akram, Pakistan’s best-known player, was fined.

    The inquiry even alleged that Waugh and Shane had taken money from Indian bookmakers. The pair were fined after admitting they had given an Indian bookmaker information on weather and the state of the wicket.

    When Cronje admitted his links with the same bookmaker it became hard for Indian fans to believe their own players were not tainted.

  24. #24 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 19, 2011 - 3:24 PM

    Munir sahab

    Did you watch Altaf Hussein’s speech? Or are you relying on hearsay?

    Nowhere in his speech did he place his hand on the Quran or place it on the top of his head.

    The Quran was only used to recite some verses at the start of the speech.

    The speech was not done in Dr Mirza’s style because Mirza was putting his hand on the Quran and putting the Quran on his head while justifying the massacre of innocent people in Karachi. News channels interviewed many people, mostly Urdu Speakers, who said that there family members were kidnapped, beheaded and killed by terrorists believed to be sponsored by Mirza.

    Mirza admitted he issued 300,000 arms licences to people. This is the only reason why there has been chaos in KHI over the past three years.

    So there was no below the belt retaliation from Altaf Hussein- I think you should stop relying on your sources for gossip and hearsay because they are apparently far from the truth and based on paranoia against one specific group. In fact I am minded to think Imran Khan himself provides this incorrect information to you 😉

    In fact there was no retaliation at all because Altaf did not even address the points raised by Mirza which has raised speculation about whether MQM can actually defend themselves against the serious allegations of Mirza?

  25. #25 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 19, 2011 - 3:30 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I saw the crucial clips of Altaf Hussein’s speech and it was absolutely pathetic and disgusting.

    He did sing twice and his performance was sickening.

    He did not make any representations by putting his hand over the Quran or putting the Quran over his head, but if he had done so more people in Pakistan would have been open to believing his side of the story. It is strange that on one hand Mirza is criticised for bringing the Quran in this matter, and on the other hand people are claiming that he must be right about MQM because he swore over the Quran. So a proper rebuttal should have been for MQM to use the Quran as well, but they have not done that.

  26. #26 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 19, 2011 - 4:05 PM

    khansahab

    Then how come there is so much disparity between yours and Munir‘s statements? Now, Munir has to say something to defend his argument. The only reason I asked was I am not watching TV since the ODI WC and I only follow cricket on the internet no political news, BAKAOZ as it is there are many other issues to deal with by watching TV be it politics or cricket it is a waste of time, unless the politics in cricket ends, which is not likely to happen. May Allah give Afridi some brains! At least the size of an Akhroat, he doesn’t seems to have any, that is why he behave like a Ch2So4.

  27. #27 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 19, 2011 - 4:40 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Munir sahab is right partially in that the “copying” done of ZM’s speech was the fact that the Quran was used. I don’t think they would have used the Quran because what else could the reason be? However nowhere did he put his hand on the Quran or put the Quran over his head. He did not even address ZM’s points in his speech.

    What I was uncomfortable with was that after reciting long verses Altaf sang the songs with the Quran presumably in the vicinity, which no ordinary Muslim would do.

    ZM is definitely a better orator than Altaf and his speech was more interesting.

  28. #28 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 19, 2011 - 6:18 PM

    What would Wasim Akram do as PCB chairman?

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/17/what-would-wasim-akram-do-as-pcb-chairman.html

    This news has baffled me, how come anyone think of appointing Wasim Akram as the Chairman of the PCB?

    He was banned by Justice Qayyum for playing in the team or in getting any official post in the PCB, along with Waqar, Mushtaq and a few others he too was banned. Then, Waqar and Mushtaq both got coaching assignments and NOW this………???

    IJAZ BUTT is a UKP but, Wasim Akram is a CHOR, he is corrupt down to his throat and some idiots think he can be the Chairman of the PCB. What is wrong with people?

  29. #29 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 19, 2011 - 6:22 PM

    Just a while ago I was talking to someone on phone about this news of Wasim Akram and I said the same I wrote above that Wasim Akram is a CHOR and the person replied, SO IS ZARDARI. Wow, what a great nation Pakistan is, if the President of the country happens to be a chor who came from the back door, then every single post in the country must be filled by a CHOR and he can qualify because the President is a CHOR…… yae sab Mader Chor and Pidar Chor aur jaanay kon kon say Chor hain and they are eager to loot the country by hook or by crook. What a shameful day for Pakistan. I feel embarrassed to mention my Pakistani background when I am encountered by people who raise such questions.

  30. #30 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 19, 2011 - 10:17 PM

    Afridi’s meeting with President Zardari on cards

    KARACHI: Shahid Afridi may get a chance to meet President Asif Ali Zardari on Tuesday, with the former captain likely to request the chief patron of the Pakistan Cricket Board to pave the way for his return to the national team.

    “It is not 100 per cent confirmed but yes there are indications that President Zardari will take some time out from his busy schedule on Tuesday to devote to cricket issues,” a source said.

    Zardari is presently in the city in connection with visits to the flood-hit areas and also for meetings with coalition partners of the government in the Sindh province.

    The source said, beside meeting Afridi, the President could also meet with the chairman of the board Ijaz Butt and Pakistan’s former captain, Javed Miandad.

    Presently both Afridi and Miandad are not happy with Butt and have complained publicly about this.

    “Look, it is no secret that Afridi is keen to get back into the national team and the only way this can happen is if the President intervenes and tells Ijaz Butt to sort out issues with the all-rounder,” another source said.

    “Afridi’s recent statements are a clear indication about his desperation to play again for Pakistan and that is why he has attempted to speak directly to the chief patron to resolve the issue,” the source added.

    Interestingly, even Butt’s three-year tenure as chairman of the board ends on October 8 and sources say the President is likely to give him a two-year extension.

    Afridi had Sunday told the media that he was ready to play for Pakistan under any captain as captaincy was never an issue for him.

    “All I want is an improved dressing room environment and that appears to be happening and coach Waqar Younis is also now gone,” Afridi said.

    Sources said that Afridi, since his conditional retirement from all international cricket in late May, had been using his political contacts to sort out issues with Butt but not met with success.

    “Finally it appears as if his contacts have got him some time with the President who is in a position to tell Butt to resolve the issue,” the source said.

  31. #31 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 19, 2011 - 10:21 PM

    Breaking news

    Ijaz Butt has requested Asif Zardari for an extension of 6 months to his tenure. This request, sources say, is likely to be granted.

  32. #32 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 19, 2011 - 11:13 PM

    Afridi is a stupid person who makes stupid decisions about his career, he is not likely to get a clearance as long as Ijaz Butt is there, and Ijaz Butt’s extension approval shall be granted for sure. Neither Miandad nor, Afridi would be able to convince Zardari. Perhaps they may not even get a chance to meet him if he is of the opinion that Butt will remain as the PCB Chairman, which is very likely to happen. Expecting Zardari to intervene is like asking someone to bring Stars and the Moon.

    Afridi is desperate because now he knows that he missed a golden opportunity to improve his average against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh and also against England in the UAE because, in the UAE he normally plays well. He is so stupid that he gave his place on a silver platter to Sania Malik. And, Malik is so pathetic, he has not scored more than 12 runs in any match he has played so far against Zimbabwe. Still, he is given a chance to play at the expense of some young talent. What a shame and what a pity that cricket is going to dogs in Pakistan.

  33. #33 by Pawan on September 20, 2011 - 3:42 AM

    I wonder what Javed Khan, Pyasi Aatma, Munir and Omar think of the latest opinion poll where Imran Khan was shown as likely Pakistan PM after 2014 polls?
    Surely anyone would be better than Zardari?!

  34. #34 by Mohammed Munir on September 20, 2011 - 10:22 AM

    Piyaasi Aatma … I like this name. 😉

    Your comment no. 24 …

    Yes, I did watch Altaf Hussein’s speech and I am not replying on hearsay.

    You are wrong, Altaf did touch Quran with his hands, he carried and waved it in the air and he even placed it over his head. If you don’t believe me, I can send you the Youtube clips to prove my point. I agree he neither swore by Quran nor took oath under it like Mirza did, and that is simply because Altaf LIED. Infact Altaf did even worst than Mirza when he misbehaved with Quran by treating it like any ordinary book and sang songs and danced while Quran was close to him. At least Mirza showed full respect and protocol toward the Holy Scriptures.

    BTW, taking oath under Quran (or other Holy Books) is not a crime, and this is what is being done in courts all over the world to prove one’s statements, and who could know this better than you since you are becoming a Lawyer yourself. 😉

    You know why Altaf didn’t address the points which Mirza raised, this is purely because he was dumbfounded and Mirza told all the facts which Altaf couldn’t deny. Instead of proving himself or MQM innocent, Altaf started attacking Mirza personally, whicl goes on to prove that what Mirza said was not wrong. 😉

    Finally, much higher number of Pakhtoons, Punjabis, Sindhis/ etc. (Muhajirs) are brutally killed, beheaded, and kidnapped than Urdu Speakers in Karachi on daily basis, so I don’t buy this notion of what the news channels.

  35. #35 by Mohammed Munir on September 20, 2011 - 10:59 AM

    Javed Khan …

    You said, Then how come there is so much disparity between yours (PA) and Munir‘s statements? Now, Munir has to say something to defend his argument.

    Theek Hai Sir, Bilkul Theek Hai …. Aap Mazzay Laitay Rahain. 😉

  36. #36 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 11:02 AM

    Munir sahab

    I was relying on what politics shows on TV were saying- that Altaf did not put his hand on the Quran and he did not even address the issues raised by ZM.

    I would trust their observations over hearsay but if you have seen the clips (I don’t want to see them and I am taking your word for it) then of course it cannot be argued with. I just don’t know why those few news channels portrayed that Altaf did not copy ZM and he just avoided any reference to ZM altogether.

    I disagree ZM showed full respect for the Quran because I don’t think anyone should put their hand on the Quran and justify killings of innocent people.

    I am not a Lawyer actually by the way, I did receive legal training but I have not qualified yet and may not qualify into this area. I just wanted to let you know of this because you at times treat me like I am a practising lawyer who would twist and manipulate words. I don’t do that 😉

    If Pakhtoons and Sindhis are dying why are their names not being forwarded to the media? Why does the media only provide details of Urdu Speaking deaths? Why don’t regional Sindhi and Pashtun news and media channels show this information?

    Karachi has a 25% Pakhtoon population- do you not think there would be more hue and cry if their deceased numbers were greater?

    What about independent, non political bodies like Human Rights Commission of Pakistan that has declared that the vast majority of deaths are of Urdu Speakers?

    You have got your information wrong. Only last week Shahi Syed, the Pakhtoon leader of Sindh was saying that, “Mohajiron ko chun chun key mara jaa raha hai”. It was good of him to accept this, even though he is one of the people alleged to be behind the massacre.

    I suppose people like Imran Khan can believe the 90s military operation was good, but in reality after those operations MQM’s membership increased manifold and non-Mohajirs joined the party in scores because they realised that there had been discrimination against Mohajirs. People were thinking the operations would destroy MQM, but it actually helped in MQM emerging as the 3rd biggest party in the country. So, you might refuse to believe what his happening in KHI and what has happened with Urdu Speakers since Partition, but unbiased people know the reasons why these problems happen and who has been at the receiving end of oppression and discrimination.

  37. #37 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 11:12 AM

    BTW Munir sahab, do you know that in terms of proportionality MQM is the most diverse party in Pakistan?

    They have people of all religions, colours and classes in their party.

    Why do so many Pakhtoons, Sindhis and Punjabis join MQM? And why do the middle class support it?

  38. #38 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 11:24 AM

    Pawan

    Imran Khan’s good policies are related to fiscal considerations. For example, he wants to make laws which forbid politicians from investing money outside Pakistan. He also wants all the politicians to declare their assets. He wants to create a tax regime whereby Pakistan can be self sufficient and not reliant on foreign aid.

    However, people who have a finance or economic background think this is unachievable. I have not seen one person who has an Economics or Finance background who can make sense out of how Imran would be able to do all of that. So, educated people will be cautious before they decide to vote for Imran.

    Apart from this I don’t think there is anything great about Imran’s policies. I don’t understand why he does not criticise religious extremism. That is a huge issue in Pakistan. He does not understand the Karachi situation very well- he needs to do that because Karachi generates 70% of the country’s revenue. He justifies his past support of MQM and PML N and other controversial parties saying that his party is an “issue based” party which will support and oppose other parties based on “issues”. But, in other words that is also known as “opportunism”.

    But he is definitely better than Zardari. However, in terms of maturity and vision Musharraf is better than Imran.

  39. #39 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 1:29 PM

    Clarke and Hussey are definitely match savers and winners for Australia. Some days ago I was comparing them with Misbah.

    They have helped Australia draw a match they looked like losing at one point.

    Excellent batting.

  40. #40 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 1:33 PM

    Australia just need to improve their bowling a little bit. They are badly missing Warne and this just shows that he was the real reason why Australia was no 1 in bowling for such a long time.

    McGrath was great, no doubt, but after him big impact fast bowlers kept coming. However, Warne is irreplaceable.

    At the moment Australia have a middle order as strong as South Africa with Ponting, Clarke and Hussey.

  41. #41 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 1:39 PM

    Test bowling at its best:

  42. #42 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 2:13 PM

    Afridi Fails in attempt to meet the President

    KARACHI: President Asif Ali Zardari met a delegation of 30 athletes who called on him to discuss the flood situation in Sindh, Geo News reported.

    Javed Miandad and other well known athletes were the part of this meeting.

    Chairman Pakistan Cricket Board Ijaz Butt was also present there.

    Prior to the meeting it was reported that the former cricket captain Shahid Afridi would hold a separate meeting with the president but that was not the case. According to sources there was no development pertaining to Afridi’s return to international cricket.

  43. #43 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 20, 2011 - 3:06 PM

    PA

    I wrote yesterday that Afridi may not even get a chance to see Zardari and I am right. I know how the political clout works in Pakistan. They must have kept both of them away. Like Zardari being President of the country is protected by its security and protocol people and they must have been tipped to keep him away from Afridi and on the other hand they must have kept Afridi away from places where he could have possibly met Zardari. So, they were poles apart and will remain like that, Afridi ran out with his luck and he is to be blamed for this suicidal run out.

    Munir

    In courts the Holy Books are not placed over the heads of people who are interrogated as witness or criminals or whatever. In the past they used to place their hands over the Holy Books, these days, they only raise their hands and the lawyer says, say that I speak the truth, only the truth and nothing but truth. And the person responds with an “I DO.” That’s all. So, please don’t defend Zulfiqar Mirza for doing that dramaybaazy and Altaf is brainless to mimic him and criticize him. He could have used only a few words without using the Book.

    And, you have exaggerated your statement by saying: “Finally, much higher number of Pakhtoons, Punjabis, Sindhis/ etc. (Muhajirs) are brutally killed, beheaded, and kidnapped than Urdu Speakers in Karachi on daily basis, so I don’t buy this notion of what the news channels.” You may not buy milk from the supermarket because you have a cow. 😀 The fact is; what PA wrote that is, if they were so many Pushtoons, Punjabis and Sindhis brutally killed etc. etc., there would have been a big hue and cry, which is not there. Why would the media hide the killings of other ethnics than Mohajiirs? Are you trying to say that the media is controlled by Mohajirs or they own these media channels?

    Pawan

    khansahab has answered your question on Imran and “I am agree” with him.

  44. #44 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 20, 2011 - 3:17 PM

    Munir

    I am not taking Mazzay, I only asked that question from you guys because I did not watch that interview and I have no intention of watching it, because I have never heard Altaf Hussain before (except one or two minutes video clips which people have sent me by email) and I have no intentions about knowing who the F is Zulfiqar Mirza? Its like the other day khansahab wrote something about a guy called ALI ZAFAR and I asked who is he? I don’t want to know about these chutiyas who spend their life in India only for money’s sake and then talk about being a patriotic Pakistani. People like Wasim Akram, Intekhab Alam and, that mota singer and this Ch2 Ali Zafar who are greedy about money and fame which they get more in India and they go and lick their asses and praise them only to get more money, That idiot Sohail Tanvir who played IPL and got that purple hat in the first IPL used to praise India and when India did not select a single Pakistani player in the next IPLs, he called it a “HINDU ZEHNIYAT.” How come he forget that they are the same people who gave him money and how come he forget that there more Muslims in India than they are in Pakistan? It is not their Hindu Zehniyat, but it is his PAINDOO ZEHNIYAT..

    Have you ever heard any Indian cricket player, bollywood actor, actress or any famous Indian person saying or wishing that “I would like to go to Pakistan and live there?” NEVER.

  45. #45 by tom on September 20, 2011 - 4:23 PM

    Afridi’s antics are baffling to say the least- first he drags Butt into court, then agrees to an out of court settlement, retires from Pakistani cricket due to difference with management, then announces his intention to rejoin Pakistani cricket after Waqar’s resignation and finally expects Zardari to facilitate his readmission while messing with his crony Butt. One gets the impression that Afridi considers himself to be the Pakistani equivalent of Sachin Tendulkar (believing that there will be enmass protest over his exclusion). His objection was towards the entire setup of Pakistani cricket yet he makes a u turn when Waqar leaves the setup which clearly shows that there was a personality clash. According to Geo news, there was no meeting with Zardari on the agenda. Afridi should patiently wait for a regime change in Pakistan or hope that some unexpected development leads to his inclusion.

  46. #46 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 10:28 PM

    Butt outclasses Afridi and Miandad

    LAHORE – PCB chief Ijaz Butt survived in the crucial round of politics on Tuesday against two former captains, Shahid Afridi and Javed Miandad, when a meeting with President Asif Ali Zardari that was supposed to pave the way for Afridi’s return to the Pakistan team, ended without any discussion on the subject. An apparently disappointed Afridi left Bilawal House without speaking to the media after the meeting also attended by various sportspersons, including Butt, Afridi, Miandad and another former captain Moin Khan.
    An adviser on sports in Sindh, Haleem Adil Sheikh and majority of the news channels said the president, who was also the chief patron of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), had also granted Afridi some time to discuss his problems with the board, specifically Ijaz Butt.
    It was earlier assumed that in the meeting, the president would ask Afridi to take back his retirement decision and the senior player would oblige and make his return to the national team.
    Unfortunately for Afridi and his supporters nothing transpired at the meeting that was beneficial for the former captain as according to the reports quoting sources, the president solely concentrated on how the sports fraternity could help the government in raising funds for the flood victims in Sindh.
    “During the meeting, Haleem Adil did try to bring up the issue of Afridi having some complaints against Butt and the board but President Zardari just smiled and ignored his comment,” a witness said. “Even Information Minister Firdous Ashiq Awan tried to bring up Afridi’s issue but the president ignored her too and kept on talking about charity matches for the flood victims,” he added.
    “After the group meeting, the president left without speaking to anyone individually, including Afridi,” he said.
    Afridi, in the recent past, has repeatedly said he is keen to play for Pakistan again and there is pressure growing on him from his fans and supporters to make himself available for the national team. Appearing on a television channel before the meeting Afridi was asked if he would take back his retirement decision, if told to do so by the president, Afridi said he himself wanted to play for Pakistan again but would do so only if he would not have to compromise with his self-respect.
    Afridi announced his retirement in protest after he was removed as captain by PCB chief Butt after the West Indies tour in May this year. But after having gone to court against the board, Afridi had to withdraw his case and face disciplinary proceedings before he was fined Rs 4.5 million by the board for breaching the code of conduct. Thereafter, the board granted him the NOC to go and play in England. The witness said no discussion was held on Miandad’s complaints against Butt either.
    “If anything appears as if the president plans to give Butt an extension as chairman of the board when his term expires next month. One can safely say that the president appears to have full confidence in Butt’s ability to manage cricket affairs,” he said.
    Miandad was later asked by the media if he had discussed with the president, the problems he was having with Butt, the former captain insisted that all the problems would be resolved with time.

  47. #47 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 10:32 PM

    Javed Miandad want T20 Ch’ship out of Lahore

    Lahore, Sep 20: Javed Miandad, former Pakistan captain and a senior PCB official, is in favour of having the National T20 Championship shifted from Lahore to Karachi due to the dengue fever outbreak in the Punjab capital.

    Sources close to the former captain said that Miandad, who is unhappy with the working of the Board and its Chairman, Ijaz Butt has started maneuvering to get the championship shifted from Lahore.

    “Basically Miandad is upset with Butt and is not supporting the Board’s stance that the championship should be held on schedule in Lahore from September 25 despite the dengue outbreak,” one source said.

  48. #48 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 10:34 PM

    Saqlain Mushtaq requests PCB, BCCI for India vs. Pakistan Series

    Saqlain Mushtaq, the Former Pakistan off-spinner has asked the cricket authorities in India and Pakistan to resume a bilateral series between the neighbouring countries just like the Ashes between England and Australia.Saqlain stated that, he personally feels that India and Pakistan should start a series on the lines of Ashes. But let’s wait for the ties to resume first.

    The wily spinner also gave his views on India’s tour to England, stating that it was a team failure. He added, It was the failure of the team and you cannot just blame the spinners

  49. #49 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 10:44 PM

    Pakistan play SL next after 1 month in UAE. This will be Pakistan’s first competitive assignment following the World Cup. SL’s bowling is weak at the moment and only Malinga and left arm spinner Herath can trouble Pakistan. Meanwhile, Pakistan will be relying on Younis Khan and Hafeez to give good starts. This will also be a test for youngsters Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq.

    India plays an ODI series with England at home. This is really poor fixture management by the boards- why are they playing each other again after a month? This must be to do with a rescheduled tour or something like that. It will be a contest between the spinners- Swann is in good form but India has more spinners. I don’t see England’s pacers troubling Indian batsmen on Indian pitches.

    India is treating this as a high profile series apparently because all of the matches are on big city grounds- Chandigarh, Hyderabad, Delhi, Mumbai and Kolkata.

  50. #50 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 20, 2011 - 10:46 PM

    hahaha @ Afridi’s out caste and outclassed ….... ye tou hona hee thaa! Afridi was day dreaming and hallucinating that Zardari will rescue him, he considers himself so important and “abudallah” (above the law) that in his mind he thought Zardari will say, Hey Butt Get Afridi in and make the Cap Ten. ………. Zardari is a pukka khiladi he knows who to support and whom not to. He would not have annoyed the entire Ahmad Mukhtar lobby and most of the Punjab lobby and that too just for a Karachi guy? And, on top of that who happens to be an Akhroat? No way Jose. The problem with Afridi is not just with his own brain but, the kinda friends he has especially those who give him advise on important issues are as DUH as Afridi himself. He should have kept a company of friends who have some brains, unfortunately the reality is, you get what you are. So, he got it what he deserved and now he may cry over the split milk. ” Lakhon Baras Shaitan nay Sijday May Sir Mara, tou Kya Mara?”

    He disappointed all of us by making that stupid decision by making that outside the court agreement with Butt. Once he challenged him he should not have backed off. At that time a majority of the nation was supporting him and Butt would have gone. Now, they killed him politically and his career is OVER. Now, no one supports him and he will have to wait only for Musharraf to come and rescue him, because even if Imran Khan comes into power he will ignore him for sure. And, expecting Musharraf to come back into power (pehlay tou Mulk may aye) is like expecting the Sun and the Moon and the Stars to come down to the planet earth with garlands of flowers for Afridi.

    The moral of the story is: If you are an Akhroat try to be content with your Akhroat brain and, don’t act Einstein.

  51. #51 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 10:48 PM

    What I want to see in the Pakistan vs SL series is for Hafeez to play Malinga well and show that he is not just a minnow basher. I also want to see Shafiq and U Akmal score more than 30-35 runs consistently. It will be an achievement if they can do that and Pakistan can obtain some confidence from these achievements if they happen.

    I think SL has a 60% chance of winning the Test series and 55% chance of winning the ODI series vs Pakistan.

    I think India has a 60% chance of winning vs England because England batsmen are so poor playing on the subcontinent generally speaking. However some of their younger players are good, so it will be an exciting contest.

  52. #52 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 10:52 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I agree with you, it was idiotic of Afridi and he just wasted his and the media’s time.

    A few months ago the media reported clearly that Asif Zardari is not interested in helping Afridi or removing Ijaz Butt prematurely. So, Afridi should have paid heed to this.

    Zardari is only concerned with rescuing his core vote in interior Sindh and he does not care about anything else. I almost felt sorry for Zardari in a strange way that he had to walk in the flooded areas with this feet immersed in water completely.

  53. #53 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 20, 2011 - 10:58 PM

    Following the success of Moin Khan’s T20 Cup in KHI, the PCB should have used initiative and moved the T20 Cup from Lahore to KHI immediately once the dengue crisis was declared by the Punjab Govt. But, the PCB is a Lahore centric body and do not want to make any decision against Lahore.

    Moin Khan’s T20 tournament was held at the time when target killings in KHI were at their peak, and still people came out to support the players.

    If KHI is not practical then the tournament can be moved to Faisalabad or Pindi. I am sure both cities have 2-3 grounds that are good enough to be used for a domestic tournament.

  54. #54 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 21, 2011 - 4:17 AM

    .” I almost felt sorry for Zardari in a strange way that he had to walk in the flooded areas with this feet immersed in water completely. “
    Aye hai bicharra Zardari. Janay konsa din aur konsi mushkil ghari thee jo becharay ko keechar may paaon rekhna para? Otherwise he is always in deep shit and enjoys the stink. 😀

    PA Faisalabad is not so far from Lahore and Pindi does not have too many grounds, other than the main stadium their grounds and pitches are pretty sub-standard. Besides, why give Karachi the step-son attitude?

    This must be an interesting news for Munir:

    http://www.timesofummah.com/2011/09/20/inzamam-ul-haq-and-saeed-anwar-to-open-meat-shops-with-brand-name-%E2%80%98meat-one-in-dubai/

    Why on earth they are emphasizing Halal meat in Dubai? And, what better quality? They have no idea how good the quality of meat and fish is in Dubai. “Teddy Bakray” from Pakistan are being imported in Dubai since the mid-seventies and they have excellent meat shops already. Australia, NZ, Denmark, Holland they all export their best quality veal and beef to Dubai and the cost of the meat in Dubai is cheaper than UK, USA and Canada. I dunno about it now but definitely less when I used to be there. And, I used to buy the top quality “A” grade tenderloin fillet Mignon and the so-called legendary brand of Chateaubriand steaks from France. The best in my opinion is Veal Rib Eye Steaks and in the 1990’s I have paid Dirhams 60 per kg for these steaks, here it is $65 per kg now.

    The Texans would never like the ones I have recommended because, they like the 1 inch thick-cut beef steaks and that too rare and not even medium. It is true that a well done steak is not worth eating because it becomes rubbery but, even their thick cut mediums are red from inside and desis don’t like to see the pinkness or redness in the meat. But, the Veal Rib Eye Steaks are very light in colour and even if you cook for 30 seconds each side on very high heat there is no blood, no pinkness or redness in it. You have to use the right sauces and right kinda salads (like Avocado salad) and baked potatoes.

    On a second thought I can give them a better idea.

    WHY NOT OPEN A TABLEEGH FRANCHISE? And start selling them in various countries “Inzi and Anwer the king of Tableeghs” They can swing their beards and change peoples moods and minds

  55. #55 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 21, 2011 - 4:36 AM

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/21/seven-sentenced-to-death-for-sialkot-lynching.html

    This is a link from today’s DAWN about the lynching of the 2 Sialkot brothers – 4 got death penalty …….. read the news…….

    it is also VERY INTERESTING to note the aliases these guys have, I won’t mention it here to spoil the fun, but please read those nicks and aliases.

  56. #56 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 21, 2011 - 4:56 AM

    Ijaz Butt’s move to go to India before the expiry of his term was a calculated and a very sinister move. He went to lick the Indian asses that’s what people say but, in reality he went to save his own ass from the line of fire. He knew about the meeting of Zardari with sports personalities and also knew that Zardari not only wanted to get seats from the voters in Sindh, but Butt also knew that Zardari is keen on improving ties with India and he took the opportunity at the right time to go there and come back with a news that INDIA PAKISTAN SERIES IS PASSIBULL……….. shit. Bahot Harami hai Butt. Akhroat Afridi under estimated him.

  57. #57 by Mohammed Munir on September 21, 2011 - 7:20 AM

    Javed Khan …

    You said, Why would the media hide the killings of other ethnics than Mohajiirs? Are you trying to say that the media is controlled by Mohajirs or they own these media channels?

    The answer to your question lies in it. Yes absolutely, the media is either controlled or scared-to-their-death of MQM.

    Sometime back MQM goons attacked few TV channels including Aaj TV. Even the two major channels Geo & ARY are based in Karachi and have regular threats from MQM.

    If you don’t agree with this, its ok, but just ‘google’ the name of “Baber Wali Khan” who was a Pakhtoon journalist of Geo TV and is brutally murdered by MQM target killers. No one could do anything even after the proof was available, and seeing Baber Wali’s fate how many more journalist would like to take the risk of their life ❓

    BTW, how many TV channels do you see/ know of Pakhtoons and Sindihis languages ❓

  58. #58 by Mohammed Munir on September 21, 2011 - 7:21 AM

    Javed Khan …

    You said, Why would the media hide the killings of other ethnics than Mohajiirs? Are you trying to say that the media is controlled by Mohajirs or they own these media channels?

    Yes absolutely, media is either controlled or scared-to-their-death of MQM.

    Sometime back MQM goons attached few TV channels including Aaj TV. Even the two major channels Geo & ARY are based in Karachi and have regular threats from MQM.

    If you don’t agree with this, its ok, but just ‘google’ the name of “Baber Wali Khan” who was a Pakhtoon journalist of Geo TV and is brutally murdered by MQM target killers. No one could do anything even after the proof was available, and seeing Baber Wali, how many more journalist would like to take the risk of their life ❓

    BTW, how many TV channels do you see/ know of Pakhtoons and Sindihis languages ❓

  59. #59 by Mohammed Munir on September 21, 2011 - 7:39 AM

    Piyaasi Aatma …

    Karachi have 25% Pakhtoon population, are you sure ❓

    This is news to me, may I ask your authentic source of this information please ❓ 😉

    BTW, there could be more Urdu-Speaking death but this is purely because they are in much higher population in KHI, whereas in proportion much more Pakhtoons, Punjabis, Sindhis, etc. are killed.

    Pakhtoons, Sindhis and other are definitely dying in KHI, but their names are not published on media because most media channels are based in KHI and they want to live too. (Refer Aaj TV & Baber Wali Khan of Geo).

    Do you always sincerely believe what Human Rights Commissions, Amnesty International, UN, and such organizations say ❓ Because, I am sorry, I don’t.

    I am really surprised as to why would a Pakhtoon leader, Shahi Syed (who is already alleged to be behind massacre of Urdu Speakers in KHI) would go out and announce that yes “Mohajiron ko chun chun key mara jaa raha hai”. This is absolutely behind logic, unless, he is ‘forced’ into saying something like this for whatever reasons.

    You said, I suppose people like Imran Khan can believe the 90s military operation was good …

    Well, you only SUPPOSE this about Imran Khan, but what about the peoples who had actually ordered those operations ❓ I mean it was done during PPP regime and on their orders, but in spite of this today PPP and MQM are coalition partner in government. So how come MQM have not only forgiven but also partnered with their own killers ❓ Similarly, before this MQM was also partners with Army/ Pervaiz Musharraf who was part of same military which carried the 90s operations.

    BTW Munir sahab, do you know that in terms of proportionality MQM is the most diverse party in Pakistan?

    MQM could, on-paper, be a most diverse party in Pakistan, but in reality it is run, managed, commanded, and owned by one single person who himself is sitting out of Pakistan for many years. Tell me, what could be more unfortunate than this ❓ 😉

    They have people of all religions, colours and classes in their party.

    My answer is as for the previous question.

    Why do so many Pakhtoons, Sindhis and Punjabis join MQM? And why do the middle class support it?

    So many Pakhtoons, Sindhis and Punjabis may join MQM, simple because they want to ‘survive’ in Karachi which is an MQM Jageer and where other peoples (Iftikhar Chaudry) can not set their foot without MQM’s permission. Therefore, those Pakhtoons, Sindhis and Punjabis who are living in KHI are bounded into joining MQM, because there are no other options for them. And lastly, middle class support them just because they are fed-up of Waderas, Chaudries, and other landlords.

    I always genuinely thought you are studying Law to become a lawyer, and I never meant that you are ‘twisting & manipulating’ words, but in fact I appreciated your argumentative qualities which are no less than lawyers. BTW, I think you would have made a very successful career in Law, however, if you have changed your options, I still wish you all the best for a great career in your selected area.

  60. #60 by tom on September 21, 2011 - 8:10 AM

    Khansahab

    Malinga has retired from test cricket so he wont be a threat in test matches. It looks it would be a very tight series specially ODIs and T20 matches. I seriously hope that Sania malik gives the same performance as in Zimbabwe so that Afridi’s case gets reinforced.

  61. #61 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 21, 2011 - 8:53 AM

    Tom

    Yes, when speaking about Malinga I was referring to ODIs and T20 only. I know he has retired from Tests and to be honest it is good riddance because his action is very suspect.

    His quicker deliveries and yorkers are basically delivered in a complete “slingshot” action.

    If Darell Hair had not caused a controversy by no-balling Murali, there would have been no Malinga today.

  62. #62 by tom on September 21, 2011 - 9:25 AM

    T20 event shifted from lahore to karachi due to dengue outbreak.

  63. #63 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 21, 2011 - 9:41 AM

    Munir sahab

    I was again relying on what the media says about Karachi demographics when saying that Karachi has 25% Pakhtun population but various sources from the internet seem to point towards this as well. The total population of Karachi is reported between 13-20 million and the population of Peshawar is reported between 2-4 million. I have heard many times that there are more Pakhtuns in Karachi than in Peshawar so they must be 25% or possibly even more in Karachi. They are the fastest growing ethnicity in KHI and their growth accelerated post the military action in Afghanistan and KP. There are definitely more Pakhtuns there now as opposed to Punjabis and Sindhis but this was not the case 10 years ago. Can I ask the source of your doubts about this?

    Yes, Urdu Speakers are higher in proportion but how does that justify why more of them are being killed? More of them are being killed as opposed to others, that is the point of the whole discussion.

    If the media channels are scared of MQM, why do they still present programmes on the anniversary of 12 May 2007? Why did they present programmes on Wali Babar? Why did they side with the lawyers movement to bring down Musharraf who was the key ally of MQM?

    What about all these journalists like Hamid Mir of Geo (there are many more) who were removed from their earlier print media positions because they were exposing the corruption of PPP and PML N? Why doesn’t anyone talk about that? Zulfiqar Mirza’s men assaulted a journalist who was asking why ZM was not acknowledging the sacrifices of Urdu Speakers in creating Pakistan- and people like you seem to be treating Mirza like a hero? ZM also misbehaved with some journalists and broke their equipment a few months ago- this was before his revelations about MQM. I think the media should be more scared of ZM because no one has presented any negative programme against ZM following these incidents but MQM always gets blamed for everything bad happening in the country.

    I definitely believe Human Rights Commission to be a more sincere source than Imran Khan, because HRCP is an independent body whereas Imran Khan blames MQM entirely for May 12 but cannot answer why 13 or 14 MQM workers and some pro MQM lawyers were killed that day. This is the level of your paranoia and resentment for one group that you will believe what politicians will say (who have their own agendas) against other parties, but you will not believe what an independent body will say? The HRCP is in other words saying that Sindhis are involved in killing Mohajirs as well as Pathans. But, why would they do this when the PPP govt is in power? Or you think MQM is stronger than PPP?

    Shahi Syed said that, it is up to you whether you want to believe this or not. I saw it on TV and on the same show Nabil Gabol and some MQM guy were also guests. It is ridiculous that you think Syed, who is accused of terrorism in Karachi, would be “forced” into saying this. There was a video on Youtube which has now been removed of Syed addressing Mohajirs as “bhiayya log” to a rally of Pashtuns holding weapons. It was disgusting to hear his language and incitement of hatred.

    Every party has been anti-MQM since its inception, so following your argument about why MQM joins them in govt, if they would boycott elections all the time they would get no power. What is the point of making a party if you will always sit out and everyone is against you?

    Your level of resentment is so immense that you believe MQM controls the media, that they force other ethnicities to join their party, and that KHI is MQM’s jageer (I wonder why ZM and Shahi Syed can hold rallies then). It is funny how MQM is run by one man, but you conveniently forget that Tehreek e Insaf is also run by one man and even after being in politics for 17 or 18 years, the common man does not know anyone else in the party other than Imran Khan. Is it one man who calls that shots in PPP or a body of people? And do the Sharif brothers not call the shots in PML N?

    MQM did a programme recently in Govt College Lahore where students asked them tough questions, some of them being the same questions you are asking. The programme presenter who is a Punjabi accepted that MQM was the only party who accepted his invitation to do this whereas feudals of other parties were scared that these educated students would ask them questions they could not answer. You should have seen how resentful the students appeared at first but then at the end of the programme they were pleased with the MQM’s response and they were applauding their response. So a lot of the fear and paranoia that you and others have against this party is not well founded and I would respectfully suggest that you listen to the media and independent bodies rather than Imran Khan because they are more credible and balanced.

    Whereas I criticise everyone including MQM, you never criticise Imran or other parties and it will be obvious to every unbiased person who is speaking the truth and who is being fair in this debate.

  64. #64 by Mohammed Munir on September 21, 2011 - 10:23 AM

    Piyaasi Aatma …

    Seems like you started relying a bit too much on media these days. 😉

    Anyways, this is not your UK or first-world educated media which will be held accountable, we are talking about Pakistani media, so please don’t depend on them for obvious reasons.

  65. #65 by Mohammed Munir on September 21, 2011 - 11:24 AM

    Piyaasi Aatma …

    If you think that my source of information is ‘Imran Khan’, than I am also sure that your full source of information is Altaf Hussain who is living very close to you within London. 😉

  66. #66 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 21, 2011 - 12:20 PM

    Munir sahab

    Since I criticise Altaf and MQM they can never be my source, but I know who your source is…….

  67. #67 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 21, 2011 - 12:22 PM

    Munir sahab

    It makes a lot of more sense to me that people in KHI, media channels, students of Govt College Lahore etc are speaking and truth and provide a more accurate representation of the truth rather than Imran Khan who does not even live in KHI and is a political opponent of MQM.

    As the former are not relying on paranoia and inherent biases when providing information.

  68. #68 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 21, 2011 - 1:20 PM

    Suspect ‘who killed 16 MQM workers’ arrested

    Wednesday, September 21, 2011

    The Criminal Investigation Department (CID) police have arrested a target killer after a brief encounter in the SITE police limits on Tuesday.

    SSP CID Fayyaz Khan told The News that a police party raided a house of the SITE area and arrested Syed Anwer Shah and recovered a Kalashnikov from his possession.

    The accused disclosed that he along with his accomplices killed 16 Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) workers in Orangi Town. Shah said that he had opened fire on a 1-D bus in North Nazimabad.

    Meanwhile, the Sindh Rangers and Karachi police arrested scores of people on suspicion and, after initial investigations, formally detained 25 of them, including two political workers, 10 suspected target killers and two extortionists from different parts of the city.

    A Rangers official said that they carried out search operations since Monday night at Orangi Town’s Sector 10 and 11 and arrested six, including a criminal who was involved in the Lyari gang war, and recovered two Kalashnikovs, one repeater and two TT pistols.

    The Rangers official said they carried out search operations in Pak Colony in Bara Board, Bismillah Hotel, Mustuffa Masjid and picked up at least 16 people, including 10 target killers. The Kharadar police arrested two extortionists Asif and Javed and recovered arms and ammunition. The Shah Latif Town police arrested a target killer after a brief encounter and recovered one Kalashnikov from him.

    Meanwhile, the Rangers raided a hideout in Mangophir and arrested a suspect, Nabi Shah, recovering around two stolen containers that belong to Nato troops based in Afghanistan.

  69. #69 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 21, 2011 - 1:31 PM

    Imran Khan’s Pakistan —Yasser Latif Hamdani

    It is not that we do not want to believe that an ideal Islamic state is indeed what Imran Khan says it is but that the proof is in the pudding. Without exception the Muslim states that have sought to give religion a role in society have ended up as theocracies

    Imran Khan, the chairman of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), has written a fascinating book on Pakistan and his own journey along with it. Let me make it clear at the outset that this is not a book review though the book, Pakistan: A Personal History, itself is worth reading and should be reviewed. My attempt here is to see Imran Khan’s views on certain key issues that have agitated me personally as a citizen of Pakistan. Therefore, while the book makes several claims worth discussing I am limiting myself to broadly two: role of religion in the Pakistani state and the treatment of minorities in this state.

    In his book Mr Khan outlines his vision for a democratic, egalitarian, pluralistic and proudly Islamic Pakistan. The important thing is not how he reconciles the inherent contradiction in this claim but that his statement is now recorded and can be referenced if and when he is in a position of power. For example, on page 68 he puts down the excommunication of Ahmedis to the pandering of religious parties by Bhutto. He is also extremely critical of General Zia’s Islamisation project. Presumably then he would set right the wrongs done by these people. At least we can hope so.

    The skipper goes terribly wrong when he claims on page 341 that the English-speaking elite quote paragraphs containing references to religious freedom from Jinnah’s August 11 speech to argue that he wanted a secular state. The actual sentence that is quoted is this: “In due course of time Hindus will cease to be Hindus and Muslims will cease to be Muslims, not in a religious sense for that is the personal faith of an individual, but in a political sense as citizens of the state.” This goes way beyond merely religious freedom as Jinnah explains when he talks at some length about the Protestant-Catholic conflict in Britain, ending with a warning against creating a bar against any section of citizens of Pakistan since those who use the word secular in Pakistan do not use it in opposition to Islam.

    Therefore, if Imran Khan can guarantee an Islamic state along the lines above, it would be a secular state. This ties in with Imran Khan’s own claim that an ideal Islamic state will allow all the freedoms of a secular state — presumably religious and cultural freedom for minorities — but will be inspired by an Islamic heritage. No secular-minded member of the English-speaking elite has ever denied that Islam is the civic marker and religion for Pakistan. Nor is every such member ashamed of the magnificent Islamic heritage that informs our identity. All the secularists want is the fulfilment of the promise that every citizen — whatever his or her views or beliefs may be — be treated equally without any bar against him or her. This includes the right to be the prime minister or president of this democratic state. I would like to hear Imran Khan state his vision clearly on this point: if a non-Muslim is an equal citizen with equal rights and obligations, should he/she not be allowed to become the head of state or head of government under the constitution of Pakistan? The only intelligible differentia I could gather from Imran Khan’s book between an ideal Islamic state and a secular state is that an Islamic state would guard public morality and the family system of the East. One wonders then how barring a non-Muslim constitutionally from certain positions in the state lends to that goal.

    On the other hand, if Imran Khan agrees with Liaquat Ali Khan’s famous assertion that a non-Muslim can become the head of a constitutional democratic Islamic state, then he is going against the established religious opinion of nearly all ulema of the Islamic world. Not even the great Khan can overturn that consensus.

    It is not that we do not want to believe that an ideal Islamic state is indeed what Imran Khan says it is but that the proof is in the pudding. Without exception the Muslim states that have sought to give religion a role in society have ended up as theocracies. Our state’s descent down that slippery slope is self-evident. Imran Khan will do well to realise that the only way Muslims of different sectarian persuasions can be united is if doctrinal differences are left out of the political sphere altogether. Had Jinnah adopted any of Iqbal’s ideas about Islam in his politics, he would never have managed to unite the Shias, Sunnis, Ahmedis, Ismailis, Mahdavis, Bohras and countless others who came under his flag.

    However, there is no harm in trying and one wishes Imran Khan the best of luck. Indeed one might also vote for him for he is not only an honest and honourable man but at least he has a progressive and inclusive vision that he has amply articulated. At the very least, he should also have his chance to mess up if nothing else.

  70. #70 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 21, 2011 - 1:34 PM

    Imran Khan has written a book- I wonder what he has mentioned in it.

  71. #71 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 21, 2011 - 1:36 PM

    PCB shifts T20 Cup to Karachi on President’s directives

    KARACHI, Sep. 21 (APP)- Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has shifted the Faysal Bank Cup T20 Tournament from Lahore to Karachi on the directive of Patron of PCB President Asif Ali Zardari.The event will be held as per schedule at Karachi’s National Stadium here from September 25 to October 2, PCB announced in a statement on Wednesday.“As desired by the President who is also Patron of PCB, the venue of the tournament has been shifted from Lahore to National Stadium Karachi,” it said.

    Fouteen teams will participate in the premier tournament. The teams will fight for the top slot in four groups to qualify for the semi-finals.
    Three matches will be played every day on group stages. A detailed schedule and the teams will be announced shortly, PCB media department announced.
    Karachi City Cricket Association (KCCA) has thanked the President and PCB for finally shifting the event to Karachi because of outbreak of Dengue virus in Lahore.
    “Its wise decision to shift the event in the larger interest of the game and allowed players to play with free-mind,” KCCA President Syed Sirjul Islam Bukhari said.
    Former Pakistan Captain Javed Miandad, who is also Director General of PCB had requested the President and PCB to shift the event to Sindh Capital.

  72. #72 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 21, 2011 - 1:37 PM

    Tom

    Yeah, they’ve shifted the event from Lahore but it had to take a presidential directive for them to do that.

    Ijaz Butt was against this decision, Geo News has reported.

    Even Shoaib Malik had to be removed from captaincy on the directive of Zardari.

    We have been unfair to Asif Zardari and he should be given credit for these two decisions.

  73. #73 by tom on September 21, 2011 - 5:28 PM

    Khansahab

    I found this analysis pretty interesting about Zardari. Whether things unfold in that manner or not, remains to be seen.

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/08/26/good-ol-bad-politics.html

  74. #74 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 21, 2011 - 5:53 PM

    Tom

    It’s a good analysis.

    His visit to interior Sindh was completely political. It was to show the core vote that PPP cares for its ethnic vote bank despite the flip flop on the LG system and other dirty Karachi politics.

  75. #75 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 21, 2011 - 7:38 PM

    khansahab

    These days any Lulloo Punjoo or, Laloo Prasad can write a book. But, a book has to be of some standard, some substance and some message and not just photographs. Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia about Imran Khan’s ability to write. Before, that you can also read my earlier comment on his educational background that he passed in 3rd division which means what? That is the worst degree to get. Anyways, here is the excerpt`with MAKHEE TO MAKHEE:

    “Khan has published five works of non-fiction, including an autobiography co-written with Patrick Murphy. He periodically writes editorials on cricket and Pakistani politics in several leading Pakistani and British newspapers. It was revealed in 2008 that Khan’s second book, Indus Journey: A Personal View of Pakistan, had required heavy editing from the publisher. His the book’s publisher Jeremy Lewis revealed in a memoir that when he asked Khan to show his writing for publication, “he handed me a leatherbound notebook or diary containing a few jottings and autobiographical snippets. It took me, at most, five minutes to read them and that, it soon became apparent, was all we had to go on.”[58] Khan accuses his political opponents of misconstruing Lewis’ comments to make it seem that the book was not actually written by Khan.[59] A cursory glance at the format of the book shows that even the final edition has very little text – each page has a full-sized picture, taken during Khan and photographer Mike Goldwater’s journey along the Indus river, and these pictures are captioned with a sentence or a small paragraph of Khan’s autobiographical snippets.[60]

    Khan has finished writing his sixth book, Pakistan: A Personal History, and it released on 15th September, 2011[61]. The book is meant to be an overview of Pakistan’s history, seen through the prism of Khan’s memories and recollections. He also takes a look at historic developments, such as the 1965 and 1971 wars with India, the Iranian revolution in 1979, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the 9/11/2001 terrorist attacks, and the subsequent American liberation movement in Afghanistan. A stated goal was to have these events viewed not only through the eyes of Westerners, but through those of ordinary Pakistanis.[62]

  76. #76 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 21, 2011 - 7:48 PM

    Munir

    I dunno about Sindhi Channels, but I know there are a few Pushto and Punjabi channels, if there were such massacres of Pushtoons and Punjabis by the MQM these channels would have been making a big hue and cry. Secondly, this is all BS that only MQM can go and kill the media people. An isolated case that too without any reliable source is not a benchmark or a word of authority to pass a ruling or a judgment.

    This is like the well known propaganda about ISI that on one hand they say, Pakistan is so weak, economically, financially, academically and what notcally and yet the ISI is more smart and more informed, more competent and more effective than FBI, CIA, KGB, MOSSAD and ALL of Indias spy agencies and ISI is more capable than ALL of them. I don’t buy this argument.

    And, yes khansahab is right about the population of Karachi, you have no idea that the outskirts of Karachi starting from Faisal Colony to Malir, Landhi, Korangi, Sohrab Goth and all along the highway to Hyderabad they are full of Pushtoons and most of them do not have Karachi ID, they still have their Pukhtoonkhowa or Punjab ID’s that is why the official population of Karachi is different from the actual and real population.

  77. #77 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 21, 2011 - 10:47 PM

    Shame on this regionalism by Lahore cricket chief.

    In all honesty I would have preferred if this cricket tournament would have taken place in Faisalabad or Pindi because these centres are not very developed for cricket, but looking at this kind of regional mindedness from this idiot it is some kind of poetic justice that the tournament has shifted to KHI.

    This guy does not know the difference between a health epidemic and political killings. Cricketers and spectators are not threatened in KHI because they would not be engaging in political activity and no one would be firing at them during cricket matches. But dengue is something that can happen anywhere and therefore from a health point of view KHI is safer than Lahore at the moment.

  78. #78 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 22, 2011 - 3:13 AM

    This idiot Mullah is saying that most of the sports personalities who were sitting there with Zardari in that meeting were from Karachi and there was no representation from Lahore except for Butt Sahab. Doesn’t he know that Butt Sahab of MDP is not only equivalent to the whole of Punjab but, he is a total authority over the whole of Pakastan kirkit. Hasn’t this Mullah not seen that Butt Dharmi has ruined the game of cricket in Pakistan? He is such a biased Ch2So4 that he can compare Dengue fever with Goli (bullets) has he forgotten that the attack on Sri Lankan cricket team took place in Lahore and not in Karachi? How come they blab out such “ess ech eye tea” from their mouth? Is he saying that the whole of Lahore is now scared and locked up in their houses and if this tournament had taken place in Lahore (jo inka paidaishi haq thaa vo cheen liya gaya) there would have been something for the Lahoriites to cheer about!! Wah, kinnay Bahadar hain La’hore day log?

    ps.

    MDP = Maa Dee…..

  79. #79 by Mohammed Munir on September 22, 2011 - 6:28 AM

    Piyaasi Aatma / Javed Khan …

    I confess I have a weakness, after a few rounds of any discussions (heated arguments), I generally take a more carefree approach and let the issue forgo. In fact after sometime I actually loose interest and feel that it is pointless to continue without reaching common grounds.

    It is obvious from the our foregoing round of discussions that we are poles apart in our viewpoints on Karachi, Altaf Hussain, Imran Khan, etc. and it will be almost impossible for us to completely agree on these subjects. I am not concluding that we may differ on all matters, because there surely are some other points where we may share common perspectives but politics is definitely not among them. 😉

    Anyways, I neither want to continue with this endless as well as meaningless (or at least to me it is becoming meaningless) debate nor these issues are so-close to my heart that I must exhaust anymore of my time and energies on them.

    The bottom line is that we are all as free to hold on to our individual opinions is anyone else, so I think it is better for all of us to respect each other’s stance, safely agree to disagree and move on.

  80. #80 by Mohammed Munir on September 22, 2011 - 9:11 AM

    Javed Khan …

    LOL @ MDP and “ess ech eye tea” 😉

  81. #81 by tom on September 22, 2011 - 9:33 AM

    Aussie coach Tim Nielsen has resigned. Michael Clarke wants a say in new coach. May be Tim Nielsen is interested in Pakistan!

  82. #82 by Mohammed Munir on September 22, 2011 - 9:58 AM

    tom …

    If Pakistan ever wants a foreign coach, then there is no one better than Dave Whatmore for the job, plus the guy was really interested in Pakistan team a few years back.

    Whatmore can we ask ❓ 😉

  83. #83 by tom on September 22, 2011 - 10:19 AM

    Munir

    My comment was in jest. After what happened to Bob woolmer and with Butt incharge, only an idiot would become coach of Pakistani team. Whatmore is no longer considered a competent coach. He was fired by Sri lanka and then Bangladesh. With the law and order situation, health and administrative situation in Pakistan, it looks highly unlikely that a foreigner would come to pakistan.

  84. #84 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 22, 2011 - 10:31 AM

    Pakistan cricket “will get buried” if Ijaz Butt gets term extension: Ex-PCB chief

    Karachi: Calls to deny a term extension to Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Chairman Ijaz Butt, who tenure ends on October 8, have gained momentum in the country.

    Butt is reportedly seeking an extension and is looking to take into confidence President Asif Ali Zardari, also the patron-in-chief of the board.

    However, former players and PCB officials have called for a new man to run the board and a shake-up in order to bring the board back on track.

    “He [Butt] should go now,” a Pak newspaper quoted former PCB chief Khalid Mehmood, as saying.

    “We faced a lot of issues during his tenure, but the biggest to me is that the PCB has lost its status. The PCB was once the main cricket body in the world but now has no weight,” he added.

    Mehmood also dismissed the PCB claims of curbing player power, and said that ‘Butt has finished the players’.

    However, he credited Butt for giving youngsters a chance in the national team.

    Another former PCB chief, Arif Abbasi, said that Butt should have resigned after the 2009 attack on the Sri Lankan team in Lahore.

    “His tenure has brought unprecedented shame and if he gets an extension, our cricket will get buried,” he added.

    Meanwhile, former International Cricket Council President Ehsan Mani felt that Pakistan cricket desperately needed a change to regain its lost status.

    There should be a strong set-up with associations having a dual role, said Mani, adding that the problem lies in the PCB’s system of one-man rule.

    “The real problem lies in our system and the one-man rule should be finished. The facts speak for themselves. We can count a lot of controversies during his tenure. There should be a strong set-up,” he said.

  85. #85 by tom on September 22, 2011 - 10:38 AM

    Khansahab

    What your instinct says? Will Zardari persist with Butt or hire a new Chairman. You said that he took two good decisions ( not taking into account his bad decisions). If he does replace Butt, then who would be the new chairman, Miandad, Akram or an idiot bigger than Butt?

  86. #86 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 22, 2011 - 10:38 AM

    Tom,

    Who knows- the attraction of $$$ is such that it can draw people from around the world to Pakistan to coach the national team despite the turmoil.

    Personally I don’t think Pakistan needs a foreign coach.

    I don’t feel that Woolmer and Lawson were particularly effective in improving the Pakistan team.

    The best coach they can have is Miandad who has an excellent cricketing mind and also knows the psyche of the players well, but politics always comes in his way.

  87. #87 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 22, 2011 - 10:45 AM

    Tom

    I don’t think there is a bigger idiot than Butt in Pakistan.

    There is immense pressure on Zardari to not extend Butt’s term.

    He will have to weigh the national interest against politics/cronyism. If history is anything to go by Zardari will stick with Butt for another 6 months.

    There were some reports that Zardari will not allow an extension, so let us see.

    The last few years have destroyed Pakistan cricket, so what damage could another 6 months do? I don’t think the PCB has made any offers yet to any coaches.

  88. #88 by Mohammed Munir on September 22, 2011 - 10:46 AM

    tom …

    If any foreign coach (or even Dave Whatmore) is currently not interested in Pakistan team then it is quite understandable and the blame goes to PCB/ iJazz Butt and not on foreign coaches. Nevertheless, in my humble opinion, Whatmore would have been the best option for our team, had he decided to come.

    On second point, Whatmore was not fired by either Sri Lanka or even Bangladesh. In fact Bangladesh was very keen on employing him for a second term after his successful first stint with them, when BD performed very well and reached second stage in one of the World Cup (I think it was in West Indies). But immediately after the World Cup, Whatmore announced his willingness to coach Pakistan, right after the death of Bob Woolmer in WI. This hurt BD board and they openly accepted that seeing his performance they wanted to recruit Whatmore for second term but his inclination to coach Pakistan left no options for them but to relieve him. On the second hand, PCB was stupid enough, even in those days, to completely ignore Whatmore and they went on to select Jeff Lawson, allegedly on the recommendations of our fast bowlers, and specially Shoaib Akhter, who preferred Lawson, as a coach, being a fast bowler himself.

    Similarly, after winning World Cup, Sri Lanka was very happy with Whatmore but there was nothing more for him to prove with Sri Lanka as he played his part in making them World Champions back then. This was inline with the recent decision of Gary Kirsten with India.

    BTW, could India be down due to Gary Kirsten ❓

  89. #89 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 22, 2011 - 10:48 AM

    Munir sahab

    Our arguments were not heated at all. I had more intense arguments with Sagaat about Tendulkar vs Lara, but even they were not heated.

    The fact is that Imran Khan is not an angel and MQM is not the devil incarnate. If we can start from this position then you will be surprised how many common grounds we can reach.

    I have not met one person in my life who likes Altaf Hussein. So we are not poles apart as far as he is concerned.

    However, where we are poles apart is that one school of thought criticises everyone whereas the other just criticises one party.

  90. #90 by tom on September 22, 2011 - 3:45 PM

    Munir

    I did some homework on Whatmore and you are right in pointing out that he quit Bangladesh for Pakistan. But the reason he wasnt considered by Dr Kidney (Naseem Ashraf) was that Ranatunga gave negative feedback about Whatmore. Whatmore has been coach of KKR in recent years and their results have been pretty average. hence one can say that he’s no longer a sought after coach. Unless international cricket doesnt start in Pakistan I dont think a high profile coach will come to Pakistan.

    Khansahab

    Zardari heeded Javed’s advice about T20 tournament and shifted it. Perhaps this may be an indicator he might be considered for chairman. Javed Miandad would be a good choice but his stints as coach werent so pretty as you mentioned. As regards Lawson, he is a sulphate.

  91. #91 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 22, 2011 - 3:47 PM

    LOL Munir

    A debate gets overheated when people start getting personal or emotional and accuses each other with names or, like in our Parliament gali galoch aur jootay chaltay hain. Like that idiot Khaja Asaf who at least 3 times on TV has done this, i.e., started yelling and thumping his chest and saying, “mai Punjabi Ooon, mai Punjabi Oooon.” Asaf, who is denying that you are not a Punjabi? It is written all over you that you are a Punjabi and Choora by nature.

    And, did khansahab or, I have ever mentioned we like or admire Altaf Hussain? Au contraire, I must have written many times on this blog that as a cricket player Imran Khan is great or was great but, as a politician he is immature and not suitable for the job to lead the country. When you asked me give me another name, I have even mentioned the name of Shah Mahmood Qureshi.

    Now, please note Imran and Shah Mahmood both are Punjabis and neither of them are my rishtaydaars, at personal level I have met both of them at least 4 to 5 times and in my view, in terms of knowledge, politics, educational background, refinement and finesse, Shah Mahmood is way ahead of Imran Khan. You responded by saying, yeah Shah Mahmood is good but, you did not mention anything significant in his favour. In fact you think that I support Altaf Hussain or, Musharraf. I hate Altaf Hussain especially the way he talks and make some comments which is against my thinking. But, he is a leader of a big party, in fact the third largest in Pakistan and he may have done something to motivate the people to stand up for their rights and fight against the exploitation of Karachiites and Mohajirs which is done by all other provinces. You think the weapons on the streets of Karachi came from Altaf Hussain’s house? It was the Pashtuns and Afghan immigrants who brought these weapons and Sindhis are notoriously known for their dacoits and robberies and they have always carried guns. When I used to live in Karachi, gun shots were non-existent and the only thing that was used during PHADDAY was a Chakoo! That’s it. Now, no one talks about Chakoo, they all use AK-47.

    Please note, disagreeing is not only your right it is also good because it increases creativity and generate new ideas. But, please don’t be under the impression that when I express my views to support khansahab, I am ganging up against you or vice versa. My views are also my views and I have also the same right as others in expressing them. The only thing is sometimes, I agree with you and sometimes with him and the same with Sagaat. (Btw, where is he?)

    And, talking about Sagaat, about 3 weeks ago, I wrote an email to Mr. M. Y. Kasim and it bounced back, that is not a good sign. I remember just a few days ago khansahab was also inquiring about him and I forgot to mention about this email that I wrote to him. I would just pray sincerely that he is OK and in in good health.

  92. #92 by tom on September 22, 2011 - 3:51 PM

    Munir

    India’s pathetic performance in England was mainly due to their poor bowling attack. It wouldnt have mattered even if Gary Kirsten was the coach. India needs top quality fast bowlers and some batsmen to replace likes of Dravid and Tendulkar (as they are ageing). But instead Indian Board is grumbling about DRS and now they want to completely eradicate it which is so stupid.

  93. #93 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 22, 2011 - 3:58 PM

    Former Indian Cricketer Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi Passes Away

    NEW DELHI: The condition of former Indian cricket captain Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi, who is suffering from lung infection, continues to be critical on Thursday.

    “Mansur Ali Khan continues to remain critically ill in the ICU. He is on very high level of oxygen support requiring intermittent Bilevel Positive Airway Pressure (BIPAP). He is conscious and his cardiac function remains stable. He is being monitored very closely,” a bulletin issued by the Sir Ganga Ram Hospital said.

    70-year-old Pataudi was admitted to the hospital last month following severe lung infection.

    After investigations, he was found to be suffering from interstitial lung disease, a condition in which the passage of oxygen to the two lungs is less than normal.

    “He is suffering from a disease which does not have proper or permanent cure. It takes time for the patient to recover,” a doctor with the hospital said.

    He is being closely monitored by a team of pulmonologists and critical care specialists, the bulletin said.

    Pataudi, regarded as one of the finest Indian captains, played 46 Tests for the country, scoring 2793 runs for an average of 34.91 with an unbeaten 203 being his highest score.

  94. #94 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 22, 2011 - 3:58 PM

    Even before the appointment of Bob Woolmer when the subject was raised on Pakspin many years ago, my instant reaction was, “Pakistan doesn’t need a foreign coach.” I still stand by that. Also, my views about the PCB Chairman is, he should be a real professional to run this cash cow and milk it properly instead of abusing the organization like Butt Sahab of MDP. There should be no Gernail Singh or, any Paindoo ex-minister etc., but a real pro who has a Masters in finance and administration with good working experience and must be a good diplomat who can create a good image of the country and he must be impartial and he must not encourage regionalism, in fact he should have a selection committee who must be fair and select players on merit basis. They can get a person like this from outside Pakistan (but only from Pakistani origin who understand the culture and definitely not a gora).


    IMO, Butt will get 6 months extension
    . Zardari has many things to sort out and he knows that by removing Butt, he will have to deal with another demon and the question is who would be that demon? The easiest solution for him is to defer it and renew it for 6 months and see how things unfold 6 months later.

  95. #95 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 22, 2011 - 4:02 PM

    Akram: Afridi’s retirement a joke

    They were brothers-in-arm during the peak of their bowling careers. Wasim Akram seemingly respects that relationship with former new ball partner Waqar Younis. In an exclusive chat with Mobile ESPN from Hyderabad on Thursday, Akram is not amused with Shahid Afridi’s comments that he wants to play for Pakistan again since Younis has resigned as coach.

    “Shahid Afridi is making things too complicated for the Pakistan Cricket Board. Cricket is a team game and not an individual sport. You have to treat the interests of the team and the management above your individual preferences. So I think Afridi should decide once and for all whether he wants to retire or not,” said Akram.

    Afridi has made a mockery of the word “resign.” After being appointed Test captain in 2010, the all-rounder quit after just one match, citing lack of form and ability to play the longest format. He also led Pakistan to the semi-final of the 2011 World Cup but was soon replaced as captain (by Misbah-ul-Haq). Afridi then announced his conditional retirement citing differences with Younis (coach). Akram feels it’s all becoming a joke.

    “His (Afridi’s) retirement has become a joke now. You can’t play cricket on your own terms. You will have difference with your coaches, with your chairman and with your colleagues but it should not show in your outlook. At the end of the day you are representing your nation – Pakistan,” said Akram.

  96. #96 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 22, 2011 - 4:08 PM

    khansahab

    BELIEVE IT OR NOT! Last night I heard a song which was filmed on Shammi Kapoor and Sharmila Tagore and I thought of Shammi Kapoor who recently died and I was thinking, how old Sharmila must be now? And, then it occur to me how old Nawab Sahab must be? Pretty old to kick the bucket? Then I said, nai, nai he should be in his 70’s and these days people live past 80-85. Then I started thinking about his captaincy, fielding and batting etc.

    “The interstitial lung disease, a condition in which the passage of oxygen to the two lungs is less than normal.” is also known as “Pulmonary Hypertension,” i.e., the right side of the heart does not supply enough blood to the lungs. Anyways, Inna Lillah-e-Inna ……….

    I think Sharmila before getting married reverted to Islam and her name was Ayesha Sultan. But, some how I am not so impressed by their son Saif Ali Khan. In his early years, he used to look very girlish and more like her mother but, then he changed, still I don’t really like that guy!

  97. #97 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 22, 2011 - 4:09 PM

    Tom

    I remember that Miandad’s coaching stints have ended in failures and controversy but many people say that is to do with politics.

    If Inzamam, Imran Khan and Wasim Akram could have things their way why can’t Miandad or Afridi have things their way? Afridi almost won the World Cup for Pakistan on his own and he could have won it if it had not been for the dropped catches, uncharacteristic batting from Younis and characteristic batting from Misbah. Similarly Miandad was a big impact player and even though I did not see that last ball 6 live, that will go down as history’s greatest cricket moments and it is all down to the batsman who was mentally strong and determined enough to see it through.

    So, if politics does not come in the way of these individuals whether in their capacity as players, captains or coaches I think Pakistan cricket can see considerable improvement.

  98. #98 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 22, 2011 - 4:12 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Saif Ali Khan is still girlish I think. He is a slight anomaly in that his children with Amrita Singh are Ibrahim and Sara, so their names are completely Muslim. I wonder if Amrita Singh also converted?

    Saif’s current girlfriend is a very attractive woman.

  99. #99 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 22, 2011 - 4:22 PM

    “I am devastated, I had no idea he was in hospital … he was a contemporary of my cousin Javed Burki, and what I heard from my cousins, and from his contemporaries, was that had he not lost his eye apparently, he was a genius of great proportions. Anyone who knows batting, knows that it’s difficult to play with one eye, specially [to play] fast bowling. What he achieved with one eye, the sort of ability he had, what sort of a player he could have become… In Pakistan, to us he was also a cricketer who was a crowd puller:” Imran Khan

  100. #100 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 22, 2011 - 4:29 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Since you mentioned Shammi Kapoor and Sharmila Tagore, I wanted to ask you, in an era of fat and/or old actresses,why was this one young and slim?

  101. #101 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 22, 2011 - 4:32 PM

    Wasim Akram is a walkking, talking JOKE himself, he not only has a BIG nose but also a very BIG mouth, so who is he pointing his fingers at?

    During his captaincy days, Wasim Akram was a demi-god and not only that he was a corrupt player, a druggie who was caught red handed by the police along with his cronies, Waqar and Moulvi Mushtaq and jailed in the Caribbean for 2 nights. And, this happened when he was officially touring and representing Pakistan cricket team. It is not that he is lying on a beach in Goa with Sushmita Sen on a private visit. BABA, SOUP BOLAY TOU BOLAY CHUNNI KYA BOLAY? He who criticizes others must be clean.

    The reason he has given this statement now is because, Waqar has gone, done and dusted and he is aiming for the position of PCB Chairman and he knows that Shahid Afridi’s last hopes to revive his career through Zardari’s sifarish has failed and by talking positive for Butt and the PCB he is paving his way to get near the gates of the PCB. If a Memon ka buccha kuch dekh ker hee girta hai, then Wasim Ka Buccha kuch dekh ker hee Sutta khailta hai.

  102. #102 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 22, 2011 - 4:36 PM

    khansahab

    Thanks for posting BOY GEORGE’s photo on LS 😀

    I dunno, I never liked Saira Banu because she looks like Boy George’s twin brother 😀

    Ps.

    To answer your question about why she was slim? She lived abroad and grew up abroad and she was slightly younger than those heroines of that eara so, she adapted the culture that was already in the West.

  103. #103 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 22, 2011 - 4:38 PM

    And, I was referring to this song:

  104. #104 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 22, 2011 - 5:10 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I could show you some photos of Saira Banu to show that she was nothing like Boy George’s twin brother but those pics are not suitable for the young members of this blog 😉

  105. #105 by tom on September 22, 2011 - 6:37 PM

    Renaissance of muslim world or religuous persecution

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15013383

  106. #106 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 22, 2011 - 6:45 PM

    Tom

    Muslims must practise inner “taqwaa” more than external representations of morality and religiosity.

    Half the hijab wearers wear clothes which would be considered un-Islamic.

    Plus the ones with pretty faces, they put make up on, so they look attractive and what is the point then?

    Daari and Hijaab and Naqab is only good if one becomes a good Muslim from the inside as well.

    In Pakistan look at what they are doing- despite daari, prayer culture and roza, they still hold weapons and terrorise innocent people.

  107. #107 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 22, 2011 - 7:23 PM

    Ijaz Butt does not want Afridi back into the team:

    PCB ask Waqar Younis to comeback

    LAHORE: PCB chairman Ijaz Butt has said that outgoing coach Waqar Younis was welcome to come back and serve Pakistan cricket after regaining good health and solving personal problems.

    The offer came at a farewell arranged for the former Pakistan captain, who stepped down as head coach after the Zimbabwe tour owing to health and personal reasons.

    Younis, who returns to his Sydney home early Friday morning after ending his contract with the Board, got a lot of praise from those gathered at the farewell including captain Misbah-ul-Haq and the PCB chief.

    Butt termed the resignation of Younis as a setback for the Pakistan cricket team.

    “He did an excellent job with the team as coach and obviously his resignation is a setback to our plans. I just hope he is able to resolve his health and other issues soon and is welcome to come back to serve Pakistan cricket anytime,” the PCB chief said.

  108. #108 by tom on September 22, 2011 - 7:58 PM

    Khansahab

    What about the proportion of muslims who are good from inside? They are suffering because of these frauds. Anyway, a certain percentage of Western world doesnt agree with these French bans. If you read some of the comments, youll understand.

    So is it kiss bye bye for Afridi as far as readmission is concerned for now? In hindsight I feel this whole episode will do him a world of good and will improve him as a cricketer and his understanding of Pakistani cricket.

  109. #109 by tom on September 22, 2011 - 8:02 PM

    England’s home cricket schedule from 2012-2016

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/15020210.stm

  110. #110 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 23, 2011 - 12:31 AM

    I think I have seen this arrest of Burqa women, lemme check out if I have the link on the email I received.

    Got it,

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=144_1312416192

    Three French policemen and one police woman to arrest a BURQA WALI? What a shame!

    Khansahab

    Aadhay aur 80% Nungay phirnay say tou Hijab behter hai. Why don’t people object to aadhi nangi aurat? Because, she has the right to do whatever she wants? No one is talking about their external morality. You go to their beaches, they are 95% nungay and not to mention nude beaches. So why this discrimination against Hijaab and Burqa? The Christian Nuns used to wear habit and still wear them as religious dress, why no one objects to them? This is just paranoia and islamophobia. If you let the Nungas and Streakers roam around, then let these women wear a dress they like.

  111. #111 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 23, 2011 - 12:32 AM

    This is a deliberate ploy by the PCB to bring back Waqar Younus, if he comes back he is no less IDIOT THAN AFRIDI. Because, he has been saying that he is retiring on health grounds. If he comes back then can you trust him?

    You better trust Umar Akmal then instead of trusting Waqqa.

  112. #112 by Bichoo on September 23, 2011 - 2:30 AM

    Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi died

    I am saddened by this shocking news. I don’t have much to write or say at this time. It came as a shocker, as I did not know he was ill, and he was only 70.

    He is a iconic figure in Indian cricket and Indian public life, his death came too early, I am really devastated. Nothing to say now.

  113. #113 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 9:27 AM

    Chamak Challo barham dikha rahi hai:

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/258631/pakistan-warns-us-you-will-lose-an-ally/

    No one will take her seriously.

  114. #114 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 9:45 AM

    Javed A Khan

    What you have said in relation to liberal dressing culture in Western societies, is trying to import the Muslim ideology of conservative dressing in a Western context. In their culture liberal dressing or skin show is often not considered immoral. In fact it is considered as being open minded and “free”. You will of course know of all this, but their culture is very distant from any religion whereas the culture of Muslims has a very strong attachment with religion.

    In fact it is understandable why they would feel awkward about a Muslim woman wearing a Naqab.

    The Quran does not mention either the word “Naqab” or “Hijab”. This is something that has been drawn from culture. What the Quran says is, “O Prophet! Tell your women to place sheets over their heads” or something like that. This is open to interpretation but it is definitely not defining the Naqab.

    I am sure that if Hijab and Naqab were agreed as compulsory in Islam by all the scholars, France would not have executed these controversial laws.

    Also, to understand these laws one should understand French society in general. There is a huge disparity between Muslims and non Muslims in France and many Muslims still live in ghettos. They are trying to promote secularism which they hope would make the country stronger.

    I don’t see Britain, Canada, India or Australia banning Hijab and Naqab because Muslims are reasonably well integrated with non Muslims in these countries.

    Finally, I do believe that women should practise inner taqwaa first before practising outer taqwaa. If you look around you will see that the better looking Hijabi girls will wear make up, dress in more “revealing” clothes and some even have boyfriends. A lot of them wear Hijab simply because of family pressure. Even in Muslim societies you see that better looking women (some Arab women and Punjabi women for example) do more fashion and dress more liberally than others. So, this is something seen widely in women that good lookers want to be perceived as good looking too. So, they tend to do that even when they are wearing Hijab, which simply defeats the objective.

    Of course, my comment is not directed towards those women who wear Hijab with a clean heart and without anyone’s pressure, but the fact is that this is a minority of Hijabis and Naqabis. Unfortunately the laws would apply to genuine Hijabis as well, and for their sake I am sorry.

    I am not a great fan of Hijab and Naqab because the Hijabis and Naqabis I have met are not any more decent, broad minded or intelligent than the non Hijabis and Naqabis.

  115. #115 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 9:53 AM

    Sachin scared of me, says Shoaib Akhtar in his autobiography

    NEW DELHI: Controversial former Pakistani player Shoaib Akhtar made some sensational claims in his autobiography ‘Controversially Yours’, revealing Sachin Tendulkar being scared of him.

    In another revelation the pacer has accused Shahrukh Khan and Lalit Modi of cheating him during IPL.

    Speaking exclusively to TOI, the fastest bowler in the history of cricket, marked by a short, tempestuous career, explains his story, full of trauma, success – and controversy.

    He retired from cricket following the 2011 World Cup. Why this book now?

    “I am in peace post-retirement, giving all the attention I ever wanted to my old parents, but this book has not been a sudden thing. A whole year and a half went into it. What I’ve written is my experience, put as honestly for others to know.

    This is the truth – for the world, it may be a big controversy. It saddens me to hear all kind of stories about Pakistani cricket in the world. People should know what we go through and why we are the way we are.”

    ‘Controversially Yours’ shies away from little in Akhtar’s life. It maps his journey from an economically deprived, yet happy childhood, into an adolescence driven by his quest to break into Pakistani cricket. Born flat-footed, suffering whooping cough, Akhtar describes the blood, sweat and tears that took him to breaking the 100 mph barrier, playing as Pakistan’s ‘Rawalpindi Express’.

    Comfort stayed elusive. Akhtar describes the severe class discrimination marring Pakistani cricket, the arrogance of the Pakistan Cricket Board ( PCB), his humiliation and his failures – including ball-tampering and even attacking teammates with a bat.

    Alongside, he takes on Pakistani and international players, coaches, selectors, the media, Lalit Modi, Javed Miandad, Wasim Aqram – even Pervez Musharraf. “You’ve criticized several important figures. Didn’t you feel apprehensive?

    No apprehensions. This is the truth. Why must anyone fear speaking it?”

    “What kind of response are you expecting?”

    “I hope Pakistan cricket will be understood and respected. I hope people will feel the other side of me and understand why I am the way I am.”

    Akhtar is the way he is because of the extremes he’s seen – from the exhilaration of making world records to the darkness of chucking allegations, drug tests and match-fixing. His story is tense, taut and triumphant. And there’s a reason he’s telling it now.

  116. #116 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 9:57 AM

    “The worst time in the history of Pakistan was in ZA Bhutto’s tenure when 90,000 Pakistani troops had to surrender before the Indian Army. And after that I feel Pakistan’s current situation is the worst time because the common man has completely lost hope with Pakistan. That is why I am going back to Pakistan” : Pervez Musharraf

  117. #117 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 12:18 PM

    Javed A Khan

    You have asked about Sagaat and I only have this to say:

    “Hain lafzon ki justuju mai hum girifth kuch aisey……

    Log kehtay hain Sagaatabaadi ka andaz e bayan hai kuch aur……..”

  118. #118 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 23, 2011 - 12:34 PM

    Khansahab

    Chammak Challo is showing how big her mouth is, that is just an indicator of how big the other channels are!

    On Niqaab and Hijaab, I agree with you that it is not mentioned in Quran except it has been advised:”Tell your women to cover their bosom and lower their gaze” Lowering gaze is also applicable for men folks. However, ALL the 4 Muslim school of thoughts unanimously agree that if you cover the head with a scarf it is better. I am not too sure if I have read anything on Niqaab. This I think is cultural. Even among the Hindu orthodox families the women used to wear LONG GHOONGHAT and no men workers were allowed to go in the Zanana side without prior approval. The Hindu women still walk on the street with a PULLOO over their head,. The christian women wear religious habits and they even wear gloves. Why does the Queen wear gloves and a hat?

    I think this burqa thingi is being blown out of proportion and this is just paranoia. Because, they believe in France alone there are 7 million Muslims and their rate of population is much higher than the locals, Reportedly Italy’s population of new ones is so low that no generation has ever revived after that, which means in the next 2-3 decades there will be massive changes due to the majority of the ethnic population. Have you not seen how Fiji has been taken away from the natives by the Indian expats? They are in a majority now and so they manipulates with the votes. This is the fear and the phobia that is hurting the French and Italians most.

  119. #119 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 23, 2011 - 12:35 PM

    “No one will take her seriously?” You bet, if she invites you, you will be the first one to go beating Sagaat by using short cuts. 😀 😀

  120. #120 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 23, 2011 - 12:40 PM

    khansahab

    Aap ki tashee kerni paraygee, aap hum say islaah liya kerain na!

    Log kehtay hain…………may kuch vazan nahee banta you better say

    Kehtay hain kay Sagaatabadi ka hai andaaz-e-bayaan aur

    Lay ayenge bazaar say jaa ker ek Hina aur 😉

  121. #121 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 2:39 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Kuri p’sand aagyi mainu…….

  122. #122 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 2:43 PM

    Bichoo

    Nawab mar gaya

    Saif Ali Khan ban gaya crores ka maalik, Bhopal aur Haryana ki zameenon ka maalik

    Kareena Kapoor ki paisey waaley parivar mai vivah ho ga

    Itni soondar hai woh, uss key liye koi shahzada hi sahi thaa…..

  123. #123 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 3:29 PM

    “The toughest batsmen I bowled to were Ponting, Gilchrist and Inzamam. I could not even get Inzamam out in the nets. His defence was very strong“: Shoaib Akhtar

  124. #124 by tom on September 23, 2011 - 3:54 PM

    From the solemn gloom of the temple children run out to sit in the dust, God watches them play and forgets the priest.

  125. #125 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 3:58 PM

    Munir sahab

    I have browsed through the Altaf Hussein clips you sent me and I agree that the Quran has been treated with disrespect.

    It is torture trying to listen to him so I did not watch the entire collection.

    One thing I would like to say though, is that the media and normal public should pay more attention to what he is saying rather than the way he is holding the Quran. I think his singing and unpleasant movements have attracted more attention, but they should listen to his message as well (the way they did with Dr Mirza)

    Zulfiqar Mirza was not “disrespecting” the Quran with his physical movements like Altaf, but some of the things he said which I have already alluded to should not have been said with his hand on the Quran. That is also disrespect of the Quran and I don’t even think a saint or sufi should be saying such things with their hand on the Quran, let alone a corrupt and hate-mongering individual like Mirza.

  126. #126 by tom on September 23, 2011 - 3:59 PM

    Your idol is shattered in the dust to prove that God’s dust is greater than your idol.

    Khansahab same thing will happen with Saif and somebody else will get the girl and bounty; We are all time travellers.

  127. #127 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 3:59 PM

    Tom

    I didn’t understand what you are trying to say there- can you please elaborate?

  128. #128 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 4:01 PM

    Tom,

    I am available for that girl but I don’t have the money.

    And I am not a chor like Zardari, so what should I do 😉

  129. #129 by tom on September 23, 2011 - 4:03 PM

    Khansahab

    its a quote from Robindra nath tagore- Its not easy to interpret but I found it appealing so I sent it over here.

    I think it means that God is more closer to innocence of children than theocracy of a priest.

    Other inputs are welcome!

    The next one is about Nawab Pataudi and Saif.

  130. #130 by tom on September 23, 2011 - 4:07 PM

    Khansahab

    Even Zardari doesnt have everything. Remember how he grasped Sarah Palin’s hand and stared at her like a hungry wolf. I think you should be thankful to God for not being a crook like zardari.

  131. #131 by tom on September 23, 2011 - 4:09 PM

    Khansahab

    These politicians have no faith; how do you expect them to treat Quran with respect?

  132. #132 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 4:12 PM

    Tom,

    Yeah I remember the Sarah Palin incident. Poor woman must have been freaked out.

    He did that months after his wife’s death and days after admitting on camera how much he loved his wife and how much he misses her. And he did that in front of the world press.

  133. #133 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 4:13 PM

    Tom

    I don’t expect them to respect the Quran but I do feel uncomfortable with the way people are treating Mirza- like he is some kind of hero.

    Surely there is something wrong with this psyche.

  134. #134 by tom on September 23, 2011 - 4:50 PM

    Khansahab

    Will you vote for someone who doesnt respect the Quran. These leaders are like vultures and they kill people just like we quash insects. They dont even spare people from their own vote bank and kill them and then ask for sympathy. Yet people vote along ethnic and religuous lines partly due to lack of education.

  135. #135 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 5:04 PM

    Tom

    Yeah and votes are also bought- it happens in interior Sindh and Punjab.

    Anyone can be bought with money in Pakistan, it seems, because no one appears to have any pride or integrity.

  136. #136 by tom on September 23, 2011 - 6:03 PM

    Khansahab

    Thats due to poverty. The people in rural areas know that whoever comes, things wont change. So they dont mind selling their votes.

  137. #137 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 23, 2011 - 6:05 PM

    PCB distances itself from Akhtar’s controversial book

    LAHORE: The PCB has distanced itself from Pakistan cricket’s enfant terrible Shoaib Akhtar, who hit the headlines on Friday for his controversial biography, saying the retired pacer was no longer associated with the board and was free to do whatever he wants.

    In his biography, ” Controversially Yours”, which was released in New Delhi on Friday, apart from slamming the PCB, Akhtar has also questioned the abilities of two of cricket’s greatest batsmen – Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid.

    Even though the PCB preferred to stay clear of the controversy, it said that being a former Pakistan cricketer Akhtar should atleast “behave rationally”.

    “Shoaib (Akhtar) is a retired player so we have no say on what he does. We have not seen or read the book as yet so we don’t know what the real facts are,” PCB chief operating officer Subhan Ahmad said.

    “But obviously, some of the things he said today are a bit surprising but the fact also is that Shoaib is no longer employed by the board and is free to do whatever he wants. But having played for the country we would accept from him to behave rationally,” he added.

  138. #138 by tom on September 23, 2011 - 6:12 PM

    Khansahab

    The guy needs pshycological help. He still feels he’ll break the 100 mile barrier and all IQ barriers. This is one irony of Pakistan- if someone gets respect, thats how he repays.

  139. #139 by tom on September 23, 2011 - 6:15 PM

    why Subhan ahmad says the same thing about his boss Butt? does his boss behave rationally?

  140. #140 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 24, 2011 - 12:03 AM

    I think Shoib Akhtar has the RIGHT TO SAY whatever he wants to say: Here are some excerpts and I am glad that he took shots at people like Wasim Akram and Shoaib Malik.

    About his views on Tendulkar and Dravid, I agree about Tendulkar’s approach and attitude but, not with Dravid’s. He should write more about IJAZ BUTT and his cronies. After all he chose the right caption, “Controversially Yours”

    Pakistan’s most controversial cricketer Shoaib Akhtar invited a little more drama on the eve of his book launch, tearing into Indian greats Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid while also taking shots at former national captain Wasim Akram and even the country’s former president Pervez Musharraf.

    In the book titled “Controversially Yours” Akhtar says, “I think players like Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid weren’t exactly match winners to start with, nor did they know the art of finishing the game.”

    He then zeroes in on Tendulkar saying, “I bowled (Sachin) a particularly fast ball which he, to my amazement didn’t even touch. He walked away! That was the first time I saw him walk away from me-that, too, on the slow track at Faisalabad.”

    Excerpts of the book released to the media have managed to create much hype but it is surprising that the bits about Tendulkar and Dravid were made public considering the fact that the autobiography will be first published in India.

    But Akhtar is not one to shy away from such a situation and said in an interview to Times of India, “What I’ve written is my experience, put as honestly for others to know. This is the truth – for the world, it may be a big controversy.”

    Akhtar, who called time on his career following the 2011 World Cup, has also shockingly admitted that he tampered with the ball claiming, “everyone tampers with the ball. I did so too. Tampering should be legalised.”

    He has also dug deep into the working of the Pakistan cricket- the administration, his early career, former and current players and the class discrimination in the setup.

    Taking a dig at Shoaib Malik, Akhtar has stated in his book that the Pakistani all-rounder was PCB’s stooge.

    “Shoaib Malik doesn’t deserve to be captain and was made captain because he was a stooge of the PCB Chief Naseem Ashraf,” states Akhtar.

    Another shocking revelation is one where he claims Wasim Akram attempted to finish his career.

    “Wasim Akram threatened to walk out with half the team if I was included in the team. General Tauqir Zia backed Shoaib against Wasim,” Akhtar says of fissures previously unheard of.

    Javed Miandad, Pervez Musharraf, Shah Rukh Khan and Lalit Modi have also come into the crosshairs in the autobiography.

    The book is tentatively scheduled to be out today in India.

  141. #141 by tom on September 24, 2011 - 8:14 AM

    Shoaib in his book says that Modi and Shahrukh cheated him by making him play for less money. Thats not cheating but bargaining. Its okay for him to use banned substances and hit fellow players with bats yet he portrays himself as victim of player politics. I think Shoaib understands that’s his last hurrah so why not cash it for maximum- perhaps thats why he chose India over Pakistan for launching the book.

  142. #142 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 10:08 AM

    What they said about Shoaib Akhtar’s book:

    “I would say Dravid is a great match winner for India. I call him a “steel wall”. Similarly Sachin is also a great cricketer and he has played some great innings,”: Abdul Qadir

    “I don’t think any Pakistani should indulge in any activities that taint the name and reputation of the country,”: Abdul Razzaq

    Dravid and Sachin are great players and they have played for so long and performed very well”, : Kamran Akmal

    We are seeing too much controversy and for the sake of the country we should not get involved in further controversies,”: Imran Farhat

  143. #143 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 10:12 AM

    “They told me half the Pakistan team was into fixing”: Shoaib Akhtar

  144. #144 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 10:15 AM

    Shoaib Akhtar wants people to buy his book in India, which is why the book has been launched in Bangalore. But, after behaving stupidly and criticising Dravid and SRT, does he think his book will get a positive response?

    He is just like these B movie actors and cheap entertainers who like to create scenes and cause controversy in order to get noticed.

    He could have promoted his book with some grace and dignity but he was and remains an uncouth thug. 12-13 years of international cricket could not change him. I guess some people are never meant to change.

  145. #145 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 10:16 AM

    Sachin Tendulkar refuses to comment on Shoaib Akhtar’s remarks

    Sachin Tendulkar Friday declined to comment on controversial Pakistan cricketer Shoaib Akhtar’s remark that he and team-mate Rahul Dravid did not have the ability to finish matches.

    “It is below my dignity to react to Shoaib’s comment,” Tendulkar was quoted as saying by television channels.

    However, the channels did not show any visuals to substantiate Tendulkar’s reaction.

    Tendulkar also did not come up with any reaction on his twitter account regarding Akhtar’s observation in his just published autobiography, Controversially Yours, which created a flutter in the cricketing world.

    In the book, Akhtar has claimed that Tendulkar and Dravid, who have scored 56,000 between them in Tests and ODIs, lack the ability to finish matches.

    Akhtar, who retired from international cricket during the World Cup this year, referred to India’s tour of Pakistan in 2006 and said that his team could have faced a humbling defeat but for the fact that they managed to rein in Tendulkar.

  146. #146 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 10:18 AM

    Akhtar seeks to downplay controversial remarks against Sachin

    NEW DELHI: Controversial speedster Shoaib Akhtar, who questioned Sachin Tendulkar’s ability to finish matches in his biography, sought to play down the remarks by saying that he was only referring to a particular incident when he felt the star Indian batsman “was trying to save himself.”

    “I never said that Sachin was scared of me. I just said in the context about players not being comfortable on particular occasions. I have also felt that a number of times,” Akhtar said at the launch function of his book ‘Controversially Yours’ on Friday.

    “It was one such occasion when Sachin had tennis elbow problem and was unable to hook and pull. On that particular day, I felt that Sachin was trying to save himself. That doesn’t mean that he was buzhdil (coward). It’s just when you are uncomfortable, whether you are tail-ender or Sachin Tendulkar, you tend to save yourself,” he said.

  147. #147 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 10:19 AM

    I don’t want to create a hullaboo about Akhtar’s book, but he has lost further respect by trying to come clean on the SRT remark.

    This just shows he has zero reliability and credibility and now he is trying to calm the storm he has created.

  148. #148 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 10:30 AM

    Javed A Khan

    I agree with you that Akhtar has the right to say what he wants. His comments against Wasim Akram, PCB, Miandad and Pervez Musharraf (I don’t know what he has said about the latter three, but reportedly he has made remarks against them) are bold and probably have some merit to them.

    My criticism is about the method he has chosen to promote his book. There is not one person who claims Dravid is not a match winner. Also, I think it would have been more apt if they had just said that SRT is not a match winner (which many people say) rather than saying that SRT was scared of him. SRT has performed well against him many times and his record against the likes of Steyn, Donald, Bond, Lee etc and other express pace bowlers speaks for itself.

    When I heard his book was coming out and it would be launched in India, I genuinely hoped it would do well and raise his image within the cricketing world but it seems like he has dug a hole for himself and caused further disgrace to Pakistan.

  149. #149 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 24, 2011 - 10:31 AM

    khansahab

    Shoaib Akhtar knew that there are a very few chances of getting the book published in Pakistan but, in India it is much easier and he could get more money. And that is why he did. And, you are wrong in saying that publishing the book in India and that too after criticizing Dravid and Tendulkar, would anyone read it? I WOULD SAY MANY MORE WOULD READ IT NOW.……… That is the nature of the people, he rightly choose the captain controversially yours and you will see he will make a lot of money!

    As regards Wasim Akram he is pukka, pukka, LOTA, Chamcha, Ch2So4 and what not., he is saying: ‘WHATEVER THE PCB SAYS, I AM WITH THEM.’ Wah ray Wah…… If you ask him to lyck Butt’s double barrel Butt, he would say, I have already done twice! He is such an A-hole. I used to like Wasim as a bowler but, when he started playing politics and match fixing and now his tongue wagging and lyking the ass of anyone from where he gets money, I hate him. I really mean it. He has no character, no self respect, no self-esteem and no patriotism. He can sell anything for money.

    Shoaib Akhtar may have other attitude problems one of them is bad temper, as regards drugs other than Nandrolone —- on which we have written pages and pages of info on this blog and on the other blogs i.e., how Nandrolone can increase in your body without taking any narcotic drugs. Its a substance that is produced by our own bodies. In some people less and in some people more. Especially those who eat a lot of protein like meat, chicken etc., and work hard it happens to them. —

    The only reason I respect Shoaib Akhtar is unlike the other corrupt players like, Wasim, Waqar, Mushtaq Ahmad, Saleem Malik, Ijaz, Ata etc., he is clean. Reportedly he was never involved in match fixing, spot fixing or bribes. He still has a big ego, which is good to have one otherwise you become Wasim Akram, lota, chamcha, harami whatever.

  150. #150 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 24, 2011 - 10:38 AM

    It is below my dignity to react to Shoaib’s comment,” Tendulkar was quoted as saying by television channels.

    I don’t think Sachin responded very well in this regard, which many will disagree with me because, by saying he is placing himself SO MUCH ABOVE him and others that once again the question of Tendulkar the god has been raised.

    IMO, it would have been better if Tendulkar has acknowledged”

    “Yes, he was a very good fast bowler, initially he got my wickets a couple of times but, later we got hold of him and he should have mentioned that too in his book, that was the end of the story.” Such comments require light hearted replies

    Dignity kya hai yaar? Sab ch2yapay ki baatain hain, aapnay aaap ko itna buland ker lena is a bit too much. I don’t like it.

  151. #151 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 11:20 AM

    Javed A Khan

    I actually feel SRT was great in replying like that. This is because Akhtar has on a few occasions now questioned SRT’s abilities as a batsman but SRT has never attacked him. And even now what he is saying is in retaliation.

    You can say he is portraying himself as a God, or alternatively you can say he is showing Akhtar his place and saying that he is a low individual.

    Akhtar, Sohail Tanvir, Wasim Akram- all of them have criticised SRT or tried to portray that he is overrated and SRT has had the last laugh and they have had to chew their words.

    I remember once before some India-Pakistan series, Wasim Akram was saying Lara is much better than SRT and SRT has weaknesses etc, whatever the purpose of saying all of this, in that series SRT scored heavily and Akram had to admit something like, “He is a great player and the best batsman of the current era” or something like that.

    There is a very fine line between boldness/bravery and foolishness, but no sensible person would make a remark like SRT is afraid of me, because SRT has a better record against fast bowling than most batsmen and definitely better than players like Lara and Kallis. I would probably not say Ponting because Ponting is excellent against fast bowling (although weak against spin).

  152. #152 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 11:25 AM

    Javed A Khan

    If it’s true that Akhtar never fixed matches, then that is respectable, but I seriously doubt whether anyone would approach him to fix because there was always a 50% chance he would be injured or unfit. The way bookies work, they would not want to place bets on situations and events that would have a very strong chance of not actually happening.

    I have very little respect for him because he lost Pakistan many matches even when he was fit because of his temperament and stupidity. He could never control his fitness (he likes to eat and can’t control his diet).

    If he was so patriotic, why play in IPL? Why have his business in India? Why wanting to act in Indian movies? Why spend so much time in India?

    Slapping Woolmer, genital warts, hitting Asif with a bat, lying about Afridi to the media, constant tantrums, ball tampering, repeated violation of discipline etc- the damage done to Pakistan cricket is incalculable and I think there is a world of a difference between his stature and SRT’s.

  153. #153 by tom on September 24, 2011 - 12:52 PM

    Khansahab

    LOL@ Genital Warts

    Mr Akhtar says he did ball tampering and it should be legitimised as everyone does it. What he’s implying is that likes of Mcgrath, Donald, Pollock, Ambrose, Warne etc were all ball tamperers. I think the fault mainly lies with PCB (Tauqir Zia, Sheryar and Naseem Ashraf) as they never realised that this guy needed psychological help. I found Shahrukh’s comments most amusing that he couldn’t stop himself from laughing.
    Thanks for the entertainment Shoaib.

  154. #154 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 2:32 PM

    Tom

    Those players you mentioned may have tampered with the ball at some stage. Tendulkar and Dravid did tamper, and they seem like the most unlikely pair who would be involved in something like that.

    I think that it is less likely that those bowlers who relied more on the new ball swing and bounce (McGrath, Ambrose and Pollock) were involved. Those who rely on reverse swing are more likely to be involved because the ball stops swinging after some overs.

    The PCB did try and help him, but his ego was always above everything else.

    But he is a joke of a cricketer.

  155. #155 by tom on September 24, 2011 - 2:48 PM

    Bullshit vs Bullshit

    Butt threatens legal action against Shoaib

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/24/butt-terms-akhtars-claims-as-%E2%80%9Cbullshit%E2%80%9D.html

  156. #156 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 2:49 PM

    “Afridi did what he always does: leaked the news. He is very friendly with the Karachi media”: Shoaib Akhtar

    Shoaib Akhtar makes a regional comment. Well, you would expect this from him.

  157. #157 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 2:51 PM

    Tom,

    Thanks for this- I will paste the news item if you don’t mind:

    Butt terms Akhtar’s claims as “bullshit”

    Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Ijaz Butt has hit back at Shoaib Akhtar’s claims in his autobiography, terming them as “bullshit” and threatening legal action.

    The book “Controversially Yours”, according to Butt could hamper the renewal of cricketing ties between India and Pakistan.

    Butt also criticized Akhtar for launching his book in India and seeking “cheap publicity” by taking shots at Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid.

    “We are trying so hard to bridge the gap with India. In these times such bullshit is totally uncalled for,” said Butt adding that the retired bowler may face legal action upon his return to Pakistan.

    He ( Shoaib Akhtar) is talking nonsense and should be rebuffed by the people of India. We will give an official statement, on Saturday, saying everything that he has said in his book is bullshit. There is not an iota of truth in it. He has caused us enough trouble as a player and the misery continues even now,” Butt told TOI.

  158. #158 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 2:52 PM

    Ijaz Butt is not wrong that Akhtar is talking bullshit, but a Chairman of a cricket board should not be using language like “bullshit”.

    Will Akhtar respond by saying Ijaz Butt is saying “bullButt”?

  159. #159 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 2:55 PM

    Akhtar heaps praise on Dhoni and Ganguly

    New Delhi: Shoaib Akhtar has been uncharacteristically effusive in his praise for two of India`s captains, Mahendra Singh Dhoni and Sourav Ganguly, who he describes as a “giant of a man in a slight body”.

    In his just-released autobiography `Controversially Yours`, he says that Ganguly`s decision to bring youngsters had changed the face of their team and Dhoni had benefited by that when he took charge of the side.

    “An important thing that happened to Indian cricket was the captaincy of Ganguly. I think he was a superb captain, a giant of a man in a slight body. One of his greatest gifts to his side was the very brave decision to bring in youngsters, and he backed them as well. This has changed the face of their team. Dhoni has benefited greatly for taking over Ganguly`s team,” Akhtar writes.

  160. #160 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 2:56 PM

    Akhtar should apologise to Tendulkar and Dravid: Shukla

    Senior BCCI functionary Rajiv Shukla today demanded an apology from Pakistani speedster Shoaib Akhtar for making disparaging remarks against India’s batting stalwarts such as Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid in his autobiography.

    In the just-released book ‘Controversially Yours’, Akhtar had words of praise for Tendulkar and Dravid but his remark that they lacked ability to finish off games early in their respective careers has created a controversy.

    Shukla, a senior BCCI official and IPL chairman, said Tendulkar did not need any certificate from Akhtar as his class was acknowledged by none other than Sir Don Bradman.

    “He (Tendulkar) is still touching new heights and as far as Dravid is concerned, he is continuing to play some great knocks, which shows his commitment to the team. Whatever Shoaib has written is distasteful. A player such as Tendulkar does not need any certificate from Shoaib as he got that from Australian legend Sir Don Bradman. Tendulkar does not need to prove anything to Shoaib. He must apologise to both Tendulkar and Dravid,” Shukla, who was here to attend UPCA AGM, told reporters here.

  161. #161 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 2:59 PM

    Overall bad reaction from India towards Akhtar. His friend Harbhajan, even, is not impressed.

    Harbhajan Singh snubs Shoaib Akhtar

    CHENNAI: With Shoaib Akhtar having stirred a hornet’s nest, calling Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid “poor finishers” of the game, Harbhajan Singh, seemed in no mood to take the comments lightly.

    I don’t know what Shoaib is up to and what made him say so. If you talk about Sachin Tendulkar, obviously I would say that he is not only the best cricketer in India but in the world as well.

    Everyone will vouch that Sachin is the best starter and best finisher in cricket. That he is still going strong speaks volumes. Dravid has been amazing in the manner he has batted.

    “One should not judge a player just by his recent performances. Dravid is the kind of guy who people would actually stand up and salute for his contribution to Indian cricket.”

  162. #162 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 3:23 PM

    Shoaib Akhtar`s book release function in Mumbai called off

    Mumbai: The scheduled release of Shoiab Akhtar`s controversial book on Sunday has suddenly been cancelled without any reason being given.

    Former India skipper Dilip Vengsarkar was to release Akhtar`s autobiography `Controversially Yours` at the Cricket Club of India (CCI) premises.

    “The event has been cancelled,” confirmed a CCI official, without assigning any reason.

    According to sources, the event was cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.

    The sudden cancellation generated speculation that it may be because of less than flattering remarks about India`s batting stalwarts Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid.

    In his tell-all autobiography, Akhtar has made many controversial claims, such as iconic Indian batsman Tendulkar did not have the ability to finish matches in the initial stages of his career.

    Meanwhile, a protest was held in suburban Dahisar on Sunday against Akhtar, for his comments on Tendulkar. Protesters carried Akthar`s posters on donkey-backs.

    On Monday, Akhtar is scheduled to attend another function to promote his book in the city.

  163. #163 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 3:26 PM

    SRK never cheated: Shoaib Akhtar

    Former Pakistan cricketer, Shoaib Akhtar has refuted the media reports that he had questioned the abilities of two of the current leading Indian batsmen Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid. He has also clarified that it was former IPL Chairman Lalit Modi, who cheated him, and not Bollywood actor and co-owner of IPL team Kolkata Knight Riders, Shah Rukh Khan. The Pakistani cricketer, while speaking at the release of his biography ‘Controversially Yours’, added that match fixing and ball tampering were part and parcel of the game of cricket and he also tampered with the ball.

  164. #164 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 3:36 PM

    “Almost all Pakistani pacers have tampered with the ball,”: Shoaib Akhtar

  165. #165 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 3:41 PM

    Harbhajan is like my younger brother: Shoaib Akhtar

  166. #166 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 3:48 PM

    Why did these Lahore based cricketers give Waqar this grand farewell?

    For the coaching they received in relation to beating minnows like NZ, West Indies and Zimbabwe?

    And why excessive praise from Inti Alam and Ijaz Butt? Afridi was the reason why Pakistan did well in the World Cup. Pakistan’s batting and fielding were ordinary for most of the WC but Afridi’s bowling was helping them in winning matches.

    Pakistan can get to the top of world rankings: Waqar

    Waqar Younis, who quit as Pakistan cricket coach last week, says the squad he managed is highly capable of taking the country to the top of the world rankings.

    Lahore-based Pakistani cricketers and the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) officials gave Waqar a farewell Friday night at the National Cricket Academy, hours before the former captain left for Sydney, reports the Express Tribune.

    Despite severe criticism by former captain Shahid Afridi, Waqar termed his tenure successful as he facilitated the creation of a team that is gelling well.

    “I am leaving the team as a unit and I hope they remain that way. They are capable of giving Sri Lanka a tough time. And with the spirit in the team that I have seen, I am optimistic of good results.”

    Former Pakistan coach Intikhab Alam praised Waqar for his services.

    “I have worked with him in various capacities and found him a true professional,” said Alam.

    “Apart from his wonderful cricketing career, he has now done an excellent job with the team as a coach and obviously his resignation is a setback to our plans.”

    His performance was outstanding,” said PCB chairman Ijaz Butt. “I can understand the reasons for his wanting to leave and I hope he is able to resolve all his issues. He’s welcome to come back and serve Pakistan cricket any time.”

  167. #167 by tom on September 24, 2011 - 4:22 PM

    Hasnt the reaction too Shoaib’s comments been too intense?

    Sachin ignored his remarks and Shahrukh had a laugh. Why the public and some cricketers are reacting so severely?

    Khansahab Butt may threaten him with legal action butt I dont think there are solid grounds for legal action.

  168. #168 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 4:28 PM

    Tom

    Butt can try and kick Shoaib in the butt, butt will Butt have the last laugh and the last butt in all of this?

  169. #169 by tom on September 24, 2011 - 8:05 PM

    No sir

    I hope his butt will the last butt that gets smacked.

  170. #170 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 24, 2011 - 8:56 PM

    The praising on Waqar by Inti and Butt is like, ANDHAA BAANTAY RAYWAREE WO BHEE APNAY APNAON KO…………. blind distributes sweets only to the blinds.

    Tu Mera Raag,
    Mai Teri Raagni

    You scratch my back
    I scratch yours

    Tusi saaday Girayeen
    Asee Today Bhaiiii

    Tusi saday Waris
    Asee Toaday Nuthee (Zindagi bhar kay ghulaam) This is all bloody Jingoism that’s it. And, I never hesitated in calling a spade, a spade!

  171. #171 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 24, 2011 - 9:12 PM

    Yar, once again I repeat that Akhtar has the right to say whatever he feels like saying.
    If his book is not launched because of his big mouth, then he deserved it for opening his mouth before the launching.

    Comparing him with Wasim, Waqar and others, I still have some respect for Akhtar because, he was NOT a match fixer and not a corrupt person. And, who didn’t play for IPL and ICL? And, Wasim took the coaching assignment, Inti Alam took coaching assignment for Ludhiana or Jullunder club. Inzi, Razzaq, Afridi, Malik,, Akmal, Tanvir, Younus Khan and even Moulvi played for the ICL. who did not play for the IPL? So, what if Akhtar also played for the IPL, Afridi is a ch2ya but, I still respect him for being honest and did not fix matches, his other stupidities such as ball tampering (chewing), pitch scuffing etc, are minor as compared to Wasim, Waqar, Saleem Malik etc. bigger crimes at national level or even worst are Sania Malik’s hudd haraami and match fixing. Or Kamran’s match fixing. All of them have a big mouth to talk against Akhtar now.

    And, whatever Tendulkar has achieved in cricket should not make him a God, as if there is no one comparable Unto him? He was not only clean bowled by Akhtar, but Asif also bowled him many times. Its a game you are bound to get out or hit out, laikin Tendulkar ko itna charhana is not OK with me.

    khansahab

    I think you were right in comparing Misbah with Tendulkar. Had Misbah played consistently for 22 years like Tendulkar, his record would have been similar because Misbah also plays for his records. While Tendulkar got stuck on his 99th int. century has proved my point that he gets nervous because he wants to achieve another milestone, perhaps his last one. What if he cannot? Remember how Kapil Dev was being played by India to break Sir Richard Hadlee’s record while he was struggling to get a single wicket in two- three matches. It is Gavaskar who has created this psyche in Tendulkar’s mind and he planted those thoughts that he must make the 100th Intl. century. And, he is stuck now.

    Akhtar’s praising of Ganguly is justifiied, but Dhoni, aNO.

    Before, Ganguly it was Azharuddin and before him it was MAK Pataudi who was the first Charismatic Indian captain, who changed the Indian style of batting and used spin as agression instead of fast bowling. Ganguly is definitely better than Dhoni, anytime.

  172. #172 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 24, 2011 - 9:20 PM

    PLEASE CHECK THIS 2 MINUTES VIDEO’S ON BUTTS OF LAHORE ………… LAIKIN ASAL BUTT TOU ISS MAY HAIGAI EE NAI.



  173. #173 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 9:30 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I think the reaction from Indian quarters has been too intense and today some people were burning photos of Akhtar. This is uncalled for and just shows the lack of tolerance in people.

    I don’t know whether you are sarcastic about the comparison between Misbah and SRT. Unfortunately only few players in the world can play fast bowling and swing well and SRT is one of them. Misbah cannot play like that ever- Inzamam could not play like that so how can Misbah! The only record Misbah looks set to break is his percentage of playing minnows and percentage of remaining not out. He has already broken SRT’s record when it comes to these two factors.

    As far as getting bowled or struggling against bowling is concerned, it happens to everyone. There are videos on Youtube showing how Lara got out to Waqar and Wasim’s yorkers although they were already well known by then, compared to Akhtar who got SRT out in the late 1990s when Akhtar was relatively unknown. If one argues Dravid is better than SRT, people seem to forget that the ball before SRT was bowled by Akhtar at Eden Gardens, Dravid was also bowled by a similar delivery.

    Also, do you remember how Ponting, whom it is arguable is even a better player of pace than SRT, struggled against the rookie Ishant Sharma?

    All batsmen struggle at times, but when it comes to SRT people sensationalise it and I think so much focus on the negative aspects of SRT’s batting, just shows how highly people think of him in the first place. Lara struggled against all kinds of bowling many times through his career but no one talks about that.

    I have already explained to Sagaat that the only reason I speak for SRT on this blog is because I genuinely believe he is the best batsman of our generation. However, this does not mean that SRT should be worshipped, or that people should start burning Akhtar’s photos if he criticises SRT. That is also not okay with me.

  174. #174 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 9:31 PM

    Javed A Khan

    The link you have provided is not working on my computer- it is taking me to the Hotmail main page.

  175. #175 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 24, 2011 - 9:46 PM

    Javed A Khan

    What I remember from Waqar’s tenure is that Pakistan beat minnows and they were not even able to beat NZ and West Indies convincingly. On occasions they struggled even against the likes of Zimbabwe and one other team- either Kenya or Ireland, can’t recall which.

    Also, what I remember was Waqar’s interference in the decision making of a captain who almost single handedly won the WC. And I remember this captain had to retire due to this interference.

    So, I don’t see what remarkable deeds Waqar has performed that warrant this praise and grand farewell. At least Pakistan should have beaten NZ and West Indies a little more convincingly.

    Waqar could not make Umar Gul more effective, he could not make Wahab Riaz more consistent. Junaid Khan looks lacklustre when the pitch is not providing assistance. Sohail Khan seems to have fitness issues and his action is too onerous for him. So, nothing remarkable on the fast bowling front.

    Hafeez has improved in batting- may be some of that is due to Waqar’s input although Afridi pushed for Hafeez’s selection and gave him confidence. U Akmal has declined in batting. Shafiq is a 30 run player. Misbah plays to draw or lose Tests and lose ODI’s.

    Other than that in Waqar’s time this is what we have seen:

    – Poor utilisation of Powerplay
    – Fast bowlers lacking killer instinct
    – Batsmen scoring too slowly
    – Batsmen playing selfishly
    – Absence of aggressive hitting by batsmen in death overs
    – Defensive bowling strategy
    – Defensive field placements

    So, how is Waqar’s performance “excellent” to put it in Ijaz Butt’s words?

    I think this is a sad day in Pakistan cricket’s history that a decline in performance is being celebrated with a grand farewell.

    Get lost Waqar, don’t come near the coaching camp in the future.

  176. #176 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 25, 2011 - 7:27 AM

    khansahab

    for some reason it was doing the same thing on my computer too but, then I had to go to youtube and find the video and the link, which is working now and here too:



  177. #177 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 25, 2011 - 7:29 AM

    khansahab

    I was not sarcastic in referring to your comparison of SRT and Misbah and my point was only about STATS and not the quality of shots. Misbah invents new shots to get out, but he has the knack of staying not out, so imagine if he had played for 22 years, his averages and totals must have been very high.

  178. #178 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 25, 2011 - 8:00 AM

    khansahab

    I wrote a long response to your comment and in the end after completing it, I pressed the wrong button and it got erased. Prolly it is too late for me and my reflexes are not working correctly, it is almost 4:00 am here and I will reply to your comment later.

  179. #179 by tom on September 25, 2011 - 9:56 AM

    misbah may score a lot of runs but I dont think he would score 100 odd centuries even if he plays for 25 years.

    Wasim and waqar were jealous of me because I had numbers of more girls than them

    Shoaib from his book Cntroversially yours.

  180. #180 by tom on September 25, 2011 - 10:00 AM

    Khansahab

    Why the poor Donkey is always subjected to torture in the sub continent. Whether it is a cricketer, politician or any celebrity, why people vent their frustration on this poor animal. Animal rights activists should seriously take a note of this.

    According to Jang news, Junior players accuse waqar of scolding them. They also state that waqar was biased towards certain players and there was a culture of favoritism.

  181. #181 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 25, 2011 - 10:11 AM

    Tom,

    Look what happened to this donkey:

    http://wuyibing.com/cache/donkey_cart_heavy_load_middle_east_india.bmp

    I am not surprised about Waqar having preference for certain players. In fact this was probably the main reason for the dispute between him and Afridi.

    I am really disappointed that Waqar has been given a hero’s exit by the PCB.

  182. #182 by Pyaasi Aatma on September 25, 2011 - 10:13 AM

    Javed A Khan

    I have seen that video you posted- I did not know whether it was a happy or sad video because these people were having so much pride in eating unhealthy.

    I know this Butt guy here, he eats 4 times as much as me and he is younger than me.

  183. #183 by Namaloom Afraad on September 25, 2011 - 10:15 AM

    Is this jingoism, patriotism, or just thuggery?

    Former Pakistan speedster’s book release in Mumbai cancelled

    Calcutta Telegraph

    Calcutta: The scheduled release of Shoiab Akhtar’s controversial book in Mumbai, on Sunday, has been cancelled, apparently because of threats from the Shiv Sena.

    Former India captain Dilip Vengsarkar was to release Shoaib’s autobiography at the Cricket Club of India .

    The Sena has taken exception to the former Pakistan speedster’s criticism against Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid, particularly against the former.

    There was every possibility that there could have been violence if the book release would have gone ahead as scheduled.

    A well-placed source of The Telegraph, late on Saturday, said that the Sena men sent a message to the people concerned that Shoaib cannot be ridiculing our players and making money on Indian soil, particularly Mumbai.

  184. #184 by Namaloom Afraad on September 25, 2011 - 10:20 AM

    According to the website Pakpassion, Imran Khan is not in favour of Ijaz Butt’s tenure being extended.

  185. #185 by tom on September 25, 2011 - 10:51 AM

    Khansahab

    Ive seen the picture. This is carnage.

    Indians cannot withstand criticism of tendulkar and thats why ceremony was cancelled. I think this is favoring Shoaib as it will increase his book sale.

  186. #186 by Namaloom Afraad on September 25, 2011 - 10:52 AM

    According to a blog this is the wealth of Asif Zardari although the information is unconfirmed:

    ZARDARI’S LOCAL ASSETS ARE:
    Plot no. 121, Phase VIII, DHA Karachi.
    Agricultural land situated in Deh Dali Wadi, Taluka, Tando Allah Yar.
    Agricultural property located in Deh Tahooki Taluka, District Hyderabad measuring 65.15 acres.
    Agricultural land falling in Deh 76-Nusrat, Taluka, District Nawabshah measuring 827.14 acres
    Agricultural land situated in Deh 76-Nusrat, Taluka, District Nawabshah measuring 293.18 acres
    Residential plot No 3 (Now House) Block No B-I, City Survey No 2268 Ward-A Nawabshah
    Huma Heights (Asif Apartments) 133, Depot Lines, Commissariat Road, Karachi
    Trade Tower Building 3/CL/V Abdullah Haroon Road, Karachi
    House No 8, St 9, F-8/2, Islamabad
    Agricultural land in Deh 42 Dad Taluka/ District Nawabshah
    Agricultural land in Deh 51 Dad Taluka Distt Nawabshah
    Plot No 3 & 4 Sikni (residential) Near Housing Society Ltd. Nawabshah
    CafT Sheraz (C.S No.. 2231/2 & 2231/3) Nawabshah
    Agricultural land in Deh 23-Deh Taluka & District Nawabshah
    Agricultural property in Deh 72-A, Nusrat Taluka, Nawabshah
    Agricultural land in Deh 76-Nusrat Taluka, Nawabshah
    Plot No. A/136 Survey No 2346 Ward A Government Employee’s Cooperative Housing Society Ltd, Nawabshah
    Agricultural land in Deh Jaryoon Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
    Agricultural land in Deh Aroro Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
    Agricultural land in Deh Nondani Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
    Agricultural land in Deh Lotko Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
    Agricultural land in Deh Jhol Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
    Agricultural land in Deh Kandari Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
    Agricultural land in Deh Deghi Taluka Tando Mohammad Khan
    Agricultural land in Deh Rahooki Taluka, Hyderabad
    Property in Deh Charo Taluka, Badin
    Agricultural property in Deh Dali Wadi Taluka, Hyderabad
    Five acres prime land allotted by DG KDA in 1995/96
    4,000 kanals on Simli Dam
    80 acres of land at Hawkes Bay
    13 acres of land at Maj Gulradi (KPT Land)
    One acre plot, GCI, Clifton
    One acre of land, State Life (International Center, Sadar)
    FEBCs worth Rs. 4 million

    SHARES IN SUGAR MILLS INCLUDE:
    Sakrand Sugar Mills Nawabshah
    Ansari Sugar
    Mills Hyderabad
    Mirza Sugar Mills Badin
    Pangrio Sugar Mills Thatta
    Bachani Sugar Mills Sanghar

    FRONT COMPANIES IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES:
    Bomer Fiannce Inc, British Virgin Islands
    Mariston Securities Inc, British Virgin Islands
    Marleton Business S A, British Virgin Islands
    Capricorn Trading S A, British Virgin Islands
    Fagarita Consulting INc, British Virgin Islands
    Marvil Associated Inc, British Virgin Islands
    Pawnbury Finance Ltd, British Virgin Islands
    Oxton Trading Limited, British Virgin Islands
    Brinslen Invest S A, British Virgin Islands
    Chimitex Holding S A, British Virgin Islands
    Elkins Holding S A, British Virgin Islands
    Minister Invest Ltd, British Virgin Islands
    Silvernut Investment Inc, British Virgin Islands
    Tacolen Investment Ltd, British Virgin Islands
    Marlcrdon Invest S A, British Virgin Islands
    Dustan Trading Inc, British Virgin Islands
    Reconstruction and Development Finance Inc, British Virgin Islands
    Nassam Alexander Inc.
    Westminster Securities Inc.
    Laptworth Investment Inc 202, Saint Martin Drive, West Jacksonville
    Intra Foods Inc. 3376, Lomrel Grove, Jacksonville, Florida
    Dynatel Trading Co, Florida
    A..S Realty Inc. Palm Beach Gardens Florida
    Bon Voyage Travel Consultancy Inc, Florida

    ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN UK ARE:
    355 acre Rockwood Estate, Surrey (Now stands admitted)
    Flat 6, 11 Queensgate Terrace, London SW7
    26 Palace Mansions, Hammersmith Road, London W14
    27 Pont Street, London, SW1
    20 Wilton Crescent, London SW1
    23 Lord Chancellor Walk, Coombe Hill, Kingston, Surrey
    The Mansion, Warren Lane, West Hampstead, London
    A flat at Queensgate Terrace, London
    Houses at Hammersmith Road, Wilton Crescent, Kingston and in Hampstead.

    ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN BELGIUM ARE:
    12-3 Boulevard De-Nieuport, 1000, Brussels, (Building containing 4 shops and 2 large apartments)
    Chausee De-Mons, 1670, Brussels

    ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN FRANCE ARE:
    La Manoir De La Reine Blanche and property in Cannes

    ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN USA — in the name of Asif Zardari and managed by Shimmy Qureshi are:
    Stud farm in Texas
    Wellington Club East, West Palm Beach
    12165 West Forest Hills, Florida
    Escue Farm 13,524 India Mound, West Palm Beach
    3,220 Santa Barbara Drive, Wellington Florida
    13,254 Polo Club Road, West Palm Beach Florida
    3,000 North Ocean Drive, Singer Islands, Florida
    525 South Flager Driver, West Palm Beach, Florida
    Holiday Inn Houston Owned by Asif Ali Zardari, Iqbal Memon and Sadar-ud-Din Hashwani

    ZARDARI’S BANK ACCOUNTS IN FOREGN COMPANIES ARE:
    Union Bank of Switzerland (Account No. 552.343, 257.556.60Q, 433.142.60V, 216.393.60T)
    Citibank Private Limited (SWZ) (Account No. 342034)
    Citibank N A Dubai (Account No. 818097)
    Barclays Bank (Suisse) (Account No. 62290209)
    Barclays Bank (Suisse) (Account No. 62274400)
    Banque Centrade Ormard Burrus S A
    Banque Pache S A
    Banque Pictet & Cie
    Banque La Henin, Paris (Account No. 00101953552)
    Bank Natinede Paris in Geneva (Account NO.. 563.726.9)
    Swiss Bank Corporation
    Chase Manhattan Bank Switzerland
    American Express Bank Switzerland
    Societe De Banque Swissee
    Barclays Bank (Knightsbridge Branch) (Account No. 90991473)
    Barclays Bank, Kingston and Chelsea Branch, (Sort Code 20-47-34135)
    National Westminster Bank, Alwych Branch (Account No. 9683230)
    Habib Bank (Pall Mall Branch).
    National Westminster Bank, Barking Branch, (Account No. 28558999).
    Habib Bank AG, Moorgate, London EC2
    National Westminster Bank, Edgware Road, London
    Banque Financiei E Dela Citee, Credit Suisse
    Habib Bank AG Zurich, Switzerland
    Pictet Et Cie, Geneva
    Credit Agricole, Paris
    Credit Agridolf, Branch 11, Place Brevier, 76440, Forges Les Faux
    Credit Agricole, Branch Haute – Normandie, 76230, Boise Chillaum

  187. #187 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 25, 2011 - 1:57 PM

    khansahab

    The value of Zardari’s assets have not been mentioned in any major currencies of the world. Already people report him as the number 2 richest man of Pakistan after Mian Manshah.

    Imagine how Zardari family amassed wealth from a local cinema (Bambino Cinema) in Saddar Karachi. His father Hashim Ali Zardari used to run that business and there was a time the cinema business was dead because of the dying film industry. Zardari’s luck changed after he married BB and BB married him because she wanted to be in politics. In Pakistani politics a single women has no status, she has to be married and for name sake she is married, she married this Manu called Chordari.

  188. #188 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 25, 2011 - 2:03 PM

    The more the controversy about the book, the better it is for Akhtar, his book will be sold in many countries. Did you guys read the comments of the publisher of Imran Khan’s book? He said, it took him 5 minutes to read his book because it has full page size photos and comments under them he calls a photo album as a book.

    Whether Imran Khan is in favour of BuTTextention or not, who cares? Imran Khan ki koi sunta hai? He is knocking at the door since the last 20 years if he was that capable, he should have become the President or PM of the country. He is stupid to have declined Musharraf’s offer when he asked him to become the PM. That would have been a stepping stone for him, laikin Imran Khan ki khopree may itni aqal hee nahee, at that time he was looking for a bottle opener to scuff his head and see if he can reverse swing his brain? He has a very, very big EGO whereas, a politician needs to be very flexible and smart like a diplomat and grab opportunities rather them letting them go by. But, first you have to recognize the opportunities they don’t come at knock your door or reveal themselves in yellow polka dot bikinis.

  189. #189 by Namaloom Afraad on September 25, 2011 - 2:16 PM

    Shoaib’s book draws mixed reaction in Pakistan

    KARACHI: Shoaib Akhtar’s biography titled ‘Controversially Yours’ has drawn mixed reactions in the Pakistani cricket circles, with some former Test players insisting that he had to add spice and controversy to make it a bestseller.
    Look if there is no controversy then an autobiography does not sell and it is understandable he is aware of this,” said former captain Aamir Sohail. Sohail said it would be unfair to pass any judgement on the book without reading it detail, and hoped the revelations made by Shoaib didn’t land him into trouble.
    Former captain, Asif Iqbal was disappointed that Pakistan cricket was once again in the limelight for the wrong reasons. “It is unfortunate that all these things have been said in his book but I guess having retired from he is now planning for a secure financial future,” the former captain said. Rashid Latif said that Shoaib’s decision to launch the book in India and bring out the controversies in the Indian media was commercially planned to make it a success. “A lot of things he has said are true, some of his observations are also spot on but I guess he is going to make a lot of people unhappy. “But no doubt even after retirement he remains one of our most enigmatic and controversial players,” Latif said. “The unfortunate part is once again Pakistan cricket will be discussed for its negative things rather than achievements.”
    Former pacer, Sarfaraz Nawaz said he was not surprised by the revelations. “As far as his talk about Wasim Akram trying to derail his career is concerned I can vouch that even when he was playing he had told me personally that he didn’t know why Wasim was after him and bent on destroying his career,” Nawaz said.

  190. #190 by Namaloom Afraad on September 25, 2011 - 2:20 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Speaking of Bambino cinema…………..

    Reportedly Zulfiqar Mirza used to show adult movies in some Keranchi cinema for 5 Rupees.

    Zulfiqar Mirza’s right hand man, Zafar Baloch has been arrested today. He is accused of many crimes including target killing.

  191. #191 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 25, 2011 - 2:41 PM

    People who think that in general INDIANS and PAKISTANIS are bhai bhai or real friends, then they are daydreaming and slumbering because, whenever Pakistanis will think that they are welcome in India very soon they have to face with the reality. Akhtar’s case is just an example, earlier the boycott of all Pakistanis players from the IPL after the Mumbai incident is another, in which Mota Sami KHan got threats and had to leave the country, one of the unbranded Pakistani comedian was beaten by public and I am glad that this happened and I want the same treatment from them for Wasim Akram, I will be very happy when they kick him out. from India. Pakistan should then send a group of chooras at the airport to receive Wasim by pouring buckets of shit over him and they shouldn’t even spit on his face because he doesn’t deserve that. He is one of the most ugliest and most opportunist cricketer I have come across, not just a Pakistani but from any country.

    khansahab

    You remember when Afridi came back after the WC and complained about Waqar’s involvement in team selection and more so when he came back from WI tour, Wasim favoured Afridi and criticized Waqar by saying Waqar is spreading his coaching wings too far. I was surprised and mentioned it on this blog and you said, Javed Khan don’t forget that Wasim is Waqar’s rival and he has a score to settle since Waqar took over the captaincy from him, so he was waiting for this opportunity and he grabbed it. So, it is not that Wasim is in favour of Afridi because, he seldom favours anyone without any MATLAB… you were so right because, he changed his stance immediately when Afridi’s position became weak after he made outside the court settlement with Butt and now he appeases Waqar, after all they are Girayeens and Nuthees> Wasim also started favouring Butt because he is hoping that he might get a chance to become the next Chairman of the PCB. So,, he wants to have good relations with him and his crones and he will change the management entirely when he will get a chance. But, that will be the biggest folly to make Wasim Akram the Chairman of the PCB.

    So, Wasim Ka Buccha Kuch Dekh Ker hee Girta hai.


    Wasim Akram recently said, “Whatever the cricket board says, I am with them.”
    The Justice Qayyum Report said, F off Wasim Akram, so is it the reason you are in India?” Wasim is openly lycking Butt’s Butt can anyone not spot how big an opportunist the MF is?

  192. #192 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 25, 2011 - 2:43 PM

    khansahab

    Zulfiqar Mirza may have used Bambino cinema for showing adult movies for 5 rupees now he shows them at his house for free. In fact his dream must be to participate in one of the orgies and record it as a movie. Good to know that Zafar Baloch has been arrested. Btw, who is he? 😀

  193. #193 by Namaloom Afraad on September 25, 2011 - 2:49 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I don’t know anything else about him except that he was working for Mirza and accused of disorder and killings.

  194. #194 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 25, 2011 - 2:49 PM

    khansahab

    You must have noticed that Akhtar never went anywhere near Wasim to butter his butt, neither in public nor on any TV show, he kept a distance and Sarfaraz has confirmed it above. As regards Asif Iqbal, he wanted to be a goody, goody in both the worlds, his original background is from Hyderabad India and he played Ranji Trophies and then he came to Pakistan and played for Pakistan, Asif Iqbal himself was a very controversial figure in Sharjah and he is talking about Shoaib Akhtar’s controversies as unfortunate?

    Like I have said, most open minded people will say that Akhtar did the right thing by speaking through his mind instead of expressing sugarcoated feelings. There has to be some truth in it which is bound to create controversies.

  195. #195 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 25, 2011 - 2:52 PM

    khansahab

    I really don’t even want to know about him but, that is my usual sarcastic question to insult someone by asking , “Who is he?” Bhaar may jai sala who cares!

  196. #196 by tom on September 25, 2011 - 3:20 PM

    Khansahab

    Doesnt the Indian public put too much pressure on Tendulkar by treating him in this manner as if he’s beyond any criticism? In hindsight, dont you think this puts way too much pressure on a player and perhaps that was one reason Tendulkar couldn’t perform due to the expectation of 100 th century. Whenever his greatness is debated, there is always one question mark about his performance; lack of match winning innings.

  197. #197 by Namaloom Afraad on September 25, 2011 - 4:43 PM

    Tom

    I have on occasions said what you are saying- that there is too much pressure on him to deliver in every match. This is something I have used to counter the criticism that he is not a pressure player. I think when millions of people around the world expect you to score a century every match, and break a record at the first available opportunity, the pressure can get to you.

    The reason why I have this sympathy with him is precisely because he is a human being and not a God. If I thought he was a God I would also expect him to score a century every other match.

    Of course, this does not mean that Dravid and Laxman are not better playing under pressure. They are definitely better match winners, but even they have weaknesses. It is a question of evaluating strength vs weakness when it comes to rating a batsman. I think it is unfair to disproportionately consider “match winning ability” to be the sole or predominant factor in assessing how good a batsman is. A match winner or finisher (Dhoni in ODI’s for example) cannot always be a great batsman too.

  198. #198 by Namaloom Afraad on September 25, 2011 - 5:09 PM

    Ijaz Butt has the last butt. Who the hell is Miandad and why does he need respect?

    Miandad shocked over PCB attitude

    KARACHI, Sept 25 (APP): Former Pakistan captain Javed Miandad was shocked over the treatment of Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) for sending him Chairman box ‘B’ passes for the National T20 cup which commenced here on Sunday at National Stadium.“I was surprised to receive Chairman ‘B’ Box passes instead of Chairman Box ‘A’ for T20 Cup on Sunday afternoon,” he told APP on phone.“Being Director General and member Govering Board of PCB I can bear and tolerate this kind of things. But don’t treat legendary Hanif Muhammad, Zaheer Abbas, Moin Khan, Shoaib Muhammad and others in same fashion”, said Miandad who has been assigned no role in conduct of this event despite holding position in the board.

    As per the past practices all the former Pakistan captains, top players and signatories are invited to sit in Chairman box ‘A’. I felt humiliated and shocked to receive box ‘B’ invitation card,” he added.
    “I am returning the passes and will be watching the matches on television”, disgranted Miandad said.

  199. #199 by Namaloom Afraad on September 25, 2011 - 5:14 PM

    After humiliating Afridi this is a new low for PCB.

    Shame on you Ijaz Butt. Sending the DG PCB and a very senior and respected cricketer a “B” pass?

    This is all because Miandad was instrumental in taking this T20 tournament away from Lahore.

  200. #200 by tom on September 25, 2011 - 5:22 PM

    Khansahab

    Thats what I was asking? Why is he treated like a deity; why not like a human. Or is it a case of considering him so great that questions about his certain abilities lead to reactions. Match winning ability is not the sole or foremost criteria for gauging greatness of a batsman- but if a spoiled cricketer raises this concern ( which btw is a marketing ploy to increase sales and I dont think Shoaib has the brains to raise this) it should be ignored or logically dealt with just like Tendulkar did. There is no question about greatness of tendulkar as a batsman but that doesnt mean he’s immune to criticism.

    Miandad shocked? I think he is still in wonderland. Doesn’t he know Butt or may be Butt has sniffed that JAVED IS THE NEXT CHAIRMAN

  201. #201 by tom on September 25, 2011 - 5:29 PM

    Shame Shame Butty Shame!

    What have you done in cricket’s name

    This was supposed to be gentleman’s game

    Thats how u r gaining fame

    There’s no potty, how u can claim

    Didnt u yesterday BULLSHIT proclaim?

  202. #202 by Namaloom Afraad on September 25, 2011 - 5:32 PM

    Tom

    i think Bichoo, Pawan or other Indian bloggers could answer this question better as to why SRT can’t be considered human.

    This is something that happens regularly in India- people who achieve great deeds are worshipped literally.

    This must be due to some tenet of Hinduism. I am not an expert in this area so will not comment further.

    If SRT does not perform in 2 or 3 series on the trot I am sure people will stop worshipping him. He is so consistent, and that is why he is considered so highly.

  203. #203 by Namaloom Afraad on September 25, 2011 - 5:33 PM

    That was pretty good Tom.

    Did you just make that up now?

  204. #204 by tom on September 25, 2011 - 6:18 PM

    Well thyank you

    Anything for my DARLING BUTT

    Khansahab

    Are you keeping tab with the latest developments regarding US accusations about pakistan?

    Serious charges are being levied by US and pakistani Army has vehemently denied them.

  205. #205 by Namaloom Afraad on September 25, 2011 - 6:30 PM

    Tom

    I don’t have much interest in what the Pakistan Army does or this kind of politics.

    I think we are seeing enough politics when we discuss cricket on this blog!

  206. #206 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 25, 2011 - 6:44 PM

    Akram reminds Afridi that cricket is a team game. Like Jedi Pra says, “Look Who Is Speeching?”

    Afridi always played for the team but Akram played for MONEY and there is a legal proof that he is a corrupt bastard and yet he has the audacity and the cheekiness to criticize Afridi?

    What a mean gutter hole he is to open his big stinking mouth and blab out filth against others.

    Wasim Akram you better stay where you belong – INDIA
    and don’t ever come back to Pakistan. We respect Indians for being patriotic but, you are a mean bastard who has no sense of any patriotism and you are loyal to MONEY only.

  207. #207 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 25, 2011 - 6:46 PM

    Shame on Butt and his cronies on ill-treating a living legend like Miandad. He did the wise thing to return those B-C-Butt Class Basses Back to the Butt and a good decision to watch it on TV.

    How long this MF will continue to disrespect the players from Karachi? The more you hear about him the more you hate him.

  208. #208 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 25, 2011 - 7:06 PM

    Did you know?

    There was a young man born in 1878 and used to raise money through bank robberies, ransom kidnappings and extortion. When he grew up he was in the elite of World’s FOUR famous men of his era, he was Joseph Stalin.

    (Hitler, Roosevelt and Churchill are the other three)

  209. #209 by Namaloom Afraad on September 25, 2011 - 7:19 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I never liked Asif Iqbal. I don’t find his comments particularly analytical and I don’t know why he resorts to speaking in English all the time when he is asked a question in Urdu.

    I remember you said that he is from Hyderabad so he has a problem speaking in Urdu, but he has lived in Pakistan for so long, surely he must know how to speak reasonable Urdu?

    It is rumoured he was the first Pakistani to be involved in match fixing.

  210. #210 by tom on September 25, 2011 - 7:52 PM

    Khansahab

    So it looks that Waqar Younis will be back in near future. What a travesty!

    Waqar said that his stint was a successful one.Perhaps he left out the tour to England. I still remember when he was sacked as captain after 2003 WC, He refused to resign and said that

    the board should explain why he was being sacked. How stupid!

  211. #211 by tom on September 25, 2011 - 9:23 PM

    What Mr Shepherd is saying to Waqar, same should be said to him again. Enough ! you are out of the attack.

  212. #212 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 26, 2011 - 12:01 AM

    Asif Iqal when he came to play for Pakistan was already in his late twenties and his Hyderbadi Urdu accent must be ingrained in his psyche and he cannot change his Hyderabadi accent. Secondly he may have lived in Karachi for a very, very short time because he used to play for Kent and used to live in England most of the time. So he never got to interact with the Urdu speaking population. I remember meeting him in London at someone’s house at a dinner and the hosts were Pakistanis and originally from Buland Shaher, UP and they also invited some of the desis from India and Pakistan who were living there. And, they were ALL speaking only Urdu and he was kinda forced to speak Urdu and he was saying things like “Kaikoo” for kion or why? And, most of the time he used to say UNO BOLAY, which means, “he or she said” instead of Wo Keh rehay thay or, Unho nay kaha and people were already amused with his Hyderabadi accent and therefore, my guess is as good as yours that he is shy to speak in Urdu in public or in front of the media because of his HIGH DRAW BADDY accent.

    The rumour about match fixing is not as a player but, as an administrator of CBFS, Sharjah which is called Cricketers Benefit Fund Series. Match fixing and Asif Iqbal’s involvement aside, the CBFS did a lot of good for ex-players from India and Pakistan both by giving them benefit funds of $25,000 for each player. Generally 2 or 3 players per series. Hanif Mohammad and India’s Ramakand Desi were among the few, otherwise who would remember players like Ramakant Desai?

    Btw, Pra Waqqa has not bowled just one or two beamers in international matches but, he bowled 2 beamers in the 1996 WC semi-final at Bangalore and was removed from the bowling. It was in that match that Wasim Akram pulled out 10 minutes before the players walked out by saying he had a chest muscle pulled and reality is he took 1 crore and 40 lac rupees for opting out. Amir Sohail made a big hue and cry that he will tell Justice Qayyum that he heard Wasim Akram and the bookie talking about match fixing and then at the last moment when Amir Churial went inside The court he said, I never heard.

    Also, it was Javed Miandad’s last international match, he was included in the team because of Benazir’s intervention. It was the same match in which Aamir Churail hit a four at Prasad and asked him to go and fetch the ball and next ball he was clean bowled. It was a big mistake not sending Miandad at his usual number 3-4 spot, instead they sent him at number 7 and as far as I remember he scored 40 odd runs at a very slow pace. Ajay Jadeja hammered Waqar in the beginning and changed the tempo of the game and took the score to 280 plus. Pakistan started with a big bang both openers scored 130 odd runs in 14-15 overs and there was dead silence in the crowd. After Churail’s departure Pakistani wickets started tumbling and were way behind the target in the end Rashid Latif hit 2-3 huge sixes but that was too late and not enough. Pakistan lost because of Wasim Akram’s GHADDARI and HARAMI PAN.

  213. #213 by tom on September 26, 2011 - 8:07 AM

    The 1996 match btw India and Pakistan was a Quarterfinal and not a semifinal. waqar bowled his 10 overs for 67 runs. Whether he was warned for beamers that info I dont have, but he wasnt removed from the attack. Wasim did pull out just before the match and was later accused of fixing.

    Its quite strange that Pakistan has never beaten India in World cup.

  214. #214 by tom on September 26, 2011 - 8:23 AM

    West Indians achieved What Indians couldnt achieve:

    A young West Indies team beat England in a T20 match. It was a low scoring match on a turning pitch. England’s outstanding summer ended on a

    slightly sour note as they lost the final match of an excellent home series.

  215. #215 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 26, 2011 - 1:13 PM

    Yeah, I know it was a quarterfinal but, I made an error while typing. Waqar got very nervous when Jadeja was hitting him in the death overs and in that process he bowled two beamers, obviously when you bowl a beamer you are always warned for the first one and on the second one its a known thing that the bowler is taken off straightaway.

    In the SA WC in 2003 at the Centurion, Saeed Anwar scored a century and Pakistan posted a very decent total of 270 plus. Our pedigreed fast bowlers, heroes were over confident and when Tendulkar and Sehwag opened the innings, Akhtar and Akram opened the bowling from each end and both bowlers were hit for sixes by both Sehwag and Tendulkar especially Akhtar gave away 72 runs in 10 overs and Pakistan lost the match within the first 5 overs because, that blitz of 52 runs in 5.4 overs demoralized both bowlers and ALL players, although the next man in, Ganguly was out on a duck yet India went on scoring runs and won the match easily by 6 wickets in 45 odd overs. That was very weird because, with that total in those days no one expects to lose and, on top of that it was Pakistan’s best team in terms of batsmen and bowlers with, Saeed Anwar, Inzamam, Afridi, Younus Khan, Razzaq, Youhana and Rashid Latif and not to mention the three speedsters. Everyone thought this team will win the cup but, India like always in the WC’s crushed Pakistan’s hopes. So, there is always a big question about their integrity.

  216. #216 by Namaloom Afraad on September 26, 2011 - 1:16 PM

    Match fixing started in 1979 when Asif Iqbal and Vishwanath were captains. Vishwanath said Pakistan could bat first without tossing the coin. This has been mentioned by Vishwanath in his book: Mirza Iqbal Baig, Geo commentator

  217. #217 by Namaloom Afraad on September 26, 2011 - 1:17 PM

    Sunil Gavaskar’s uncle was also reportedly involved in match fixing: Mirza Iqbal Baig

  218. #218 by Namaloom Afraad on September 26, 2011 - 1:48 PM

    Bangalore says no to Shoaib’s book launch

    New Delhi: The launch of Shoaib Akhtar’s controversial autobiography – Controversially Yours – in Bangalore, has been cancelled. The event was supposed to take place on Tuesday.

    This is the second cancellation after the event had to be called off in Mumbai as most of the former cricketers and celebrities who had been invited, opted to not attend the event.

  219. #219 by Namaloom Afraad on September 26, 2011 - 1:50 PM

    I was saying that extravagant statements would be counter productive for Akhtar.

    It would have been better for his book if Mumbai and Bangalore had allowed the launch and celebrities had attended to promote the book.

    I guess his book would be more popular in Pakistan.

  220. #220 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 26, 2011 - 1:56 PM

    khansahab

    Trust me not just in Pakistan but Indians too, all over the world will read this book for sure. Remember Rushdie’s Book Satanic Verses, it was read by many, many Arabs whereas it is banned in the Arab and Islamic countries.

  221. #221 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 26, 2011 - 1:57 PM

    Mirza Iqbal Baig ki bhee tou apni koi credibility nahee hai yaar, he looks like a very crooked person and provokes people to speak out but, he is quiet successful in doing that.

  222. #222 by tom on September 26, 2011 - 4:39 PM

    Khansahab

    Mirza Iqbal Baig is the official FARTMAN of Geo sports.

    He keeps on farting stuff like this. Cockroach!

  223. #223 by tom on September 26, 2011 - 4:42 PM

    If integrity and competency of pakistani team is to be questioned, then without doubt it is the 1999 WC final. That was the best team Pakistan had for a very long time but it was a bizarre final. Even today, people say that final was fixed.

  224. #224 by Namaloom Afraad on September 27, 2011 - 10:07 AM

    “Though I respected (Wasim) Akram as a bowler, he was abusive and had bad attitude,” Shoaib Akhtar

    “Ijaz Butt handled the match-fixing issue very badly, he just can’t think straight. He has made Pakistan cricket a joke:” Shoaib Akhtar

  225. #225 by Namaloom Afraad on September 27, 2011 - 10:20 AM

    New IPL chief gives fresh hopes to Pakistan players

    KARACHI: Deprived of lucrative earnings and thrilling Twenty20 action, Pakistan players have received fresh hopes from the Indian Premier League’s (IPL) new commissioner who has given a positive response on the possibility of including the country’s players.

    Rajiv Shukla, the senior functionary of the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI), took over the top IPL post last week and said that the league’s management will keep its options open on recruiting foreign players including Pakistanis.

  226. #226 by Namaloom Afraad on September 27, 2011 - 12:02 PM

    Asim Kamal rubbishes Akhtar”s claims in his book

    Lahore, Sep 27 (PTI) Pakistan Test batsman Asim Kamal has negated the impression created by former speedster Shoaib Akhtar in his recently released autobiography ”Controversially Yours”, in which he has questioned the class and temperament of Indian batting stalwarts Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid. Shoaib, in his book, has claimed that Tendulkar and Dravid were not match-winners nor did they know the art of finishing games but Asim, who played in the 2004 home series against India and also toured India in 2005, disagreed with the “Rawalpindi Express”. “I used to field at short leg and yes, it is true I saw some batsmen shivering while facing Shoaib but same was not true in case of Tendulkar or Dravid,” Asim said. “I saw some South African batsmen in the 2003 series in Pakistan shying away from Shoaib”s bowling. Among them were (Boeta) Dipennaar and (Kevin) McKenzie at Lahore. “But I fielded at short leg when Tendulkar and Dravid batted. They used to be nervous like other players when facing Shoaib but I didn”t see anything which suggested that either of them were scared of him,” 35-year-old Asim, who played 12 Test matches, said. The left-handed batsman, who had a successful stint in the two series he played against India, said he has always been a great admirer of the two Indian batsmen and found them to be quality players. “It is unfair to say they were not match-winners or scared of anyone,” said Asim. He, however, was also all praise for Shoaib as a teammate and a human being “I don”t know what he has written in his book but I can say that he was an excellent teammate, who used to support the younger players, and a good human being…very gracious with us,” revealed Asim.

  227. #227 by Namaloom Afraad on September 27, 2011 - 12:44 PM

    Malik chooses to ignore Akhtar’s claims

    Preferring to play down the controversy stirred by Shoaib Akhtar’s recently released autobiography ‘Controversially Yours’, in which he has made some tall claims, Pakistani cricketer Shoaib Malik said there was no point in giving much importance to the pacer’s book.

    When his own family does not take him seriously, I don’t understand why is everyone taking his comments in his book seriously,” Malik told a TV channel in an interview, where he appeared with his wife, Indian tennis ace Sania Mirza.

  228. #228 by Namaloom Afraad on September 27, 2011 - 12:47 PM

    If Shoaib Akhtar was a servant of Pakistan cricket, then these cricketers would not have been rubbishing his comments in his autobiography.

    When Afridi criticised Indian media and public in Pakistan, it was much better received than Akhtar’s claims.

    This is because Afridi has played with sincerity and honour for most of his career but Akhtar has only played for himself.

  229. #229 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 27, 2011 - 1:00 PM

    Well no one notices Shoaib Malik except when he is seen with his celebrity wife Sania Mirza.

  230. #230 by Namaloom Afraad on September 27, 2011 - 4:00 PM

    Waqar takes 6-59.

    Although truth be told I am sceptical of how much ball tampering Pakistanis have engaged in, more so because of Akhtar’s recent revelations, there was no doubt Waqar was a big impact bowler.

    I don’t know why people rate Wasim so highly and disregard Waqar. Injuries prevented Waqar from taking more wickets than Wasim, not potential.

    He was injured so many times and had to make a comeback, but EVERY TIME he made a comeback he took wickets. He changed his action and style a few times but he just performed magic with the ball every time.

    And this is a fact that no bowler has been as devastating as Waqar was in his peak in the early and mid 90’s. He had pace, aggression, accuracy and swing.

    He is the big daddy of fast bowling and his legacy was that Shoaib Akhtar and every other bowler in Pakistan, in fact not just Pakistan but around the world, was inspired by Waqar, in fact Waqar made the “slingshot” action fashionable. Unfortunately Akhtar (to a small extent) and Malinga have abused it.

  231. #231 by tom on September 27, 2011 - 4:23 PM

    Khansahab

    In my opinion, Wasim was a greater bowler than Waqar. His two deliveries at 1992 WC were virtual magic. To add Testament to view , ill quote two greats.

    According to Glenn Mcgrath Wasim was one of the two bowlers who impressed him . He could bowl 6 different deliveries in one over.

    Allan border said that Wasim was one of the great Bowlers he ever faced alongwith Ambrose, Marshall and Holding.

    Just look at this delivery; it is considered to be plumbest LBW not given

    I agree with my co-blogger Javed that it is Wasim’s antics (match fixing and politics) rather than his bowling which put a blotch over his greatness. Having said that, Waqar was also a great bowler. But I would rate Wasim slightly greater than Waqar.

  232. #232 by Namaloom Afraad on September 27, 2011 - 5:59 PM

    Tom

    Wasim was helped greatly due to his angle of delivery and unusual action.

    This is a little like how I say one thing SRT has to his credit, when comparing him with Lara, is that Lara was left handed and left handers score more easily than right handers, everything else being equal.

    It is a catch 22 because one the one hand Wasim had this benefit, but on the other hand this is what defined his bowling. You can’t penalise one person too much for being left handed.

    But, I still feel Waqar was better than Wasim at his peak. I don’t think two match winning balls only should influence your opinion about who was greater. if the comparison is in swing, then Waqar could swing the ball more than Wasim. I am pretty sure Waqar performed better on batting pitches as well because he used to rely more on reverse swing and pace rather than Wasim who was almost totally dependent on swing.

    Also, Waqar had such a high ratio of getting people out LBW and bowled- just imagine how much this would have helped the Pakistan team which has always been a pathetic fielding side.

    Just have a look on Statsguru at the difference between Wasim and Waqar’s bowling strike rates on batting pitches- Waqar is miles better.

    Waqar was very useful because he was more reliable in dismissing the openers and putting pressure on the opposition.

  233. #233 by Namaloom Afraad on September 27, 2011 - 6:14 PM

    “I felt SRT was scared of me when he had the tennis elbow problem. In the next match I hit him on the head. He might be your god but he is not my god. These things happen in cricket. If SRT was scared of me for one series, why does it hurt the fans’ ego so much? You say it is a democratic country and everyone has a right to say what they want. All the times SRT and Dravid played against me, I did not see them winning any match. When have I denied SRT’s greatness? I wrote in my book he is great. Why should I apologise for telling the truth? My fans understand me- I don’t need to apologise to anyone. 80% of India does not think like that, only 5 or 6% people are opposing me. Who is the BCCI to demand an apology from me? If you don’t like what I said go and eat “chaat” for Rs 500 and don’t buy my book”: Shoaib Akhtar

  234. #234 by tom on September 27, 2011 - 6:27 PM

    Khansahab

    The margin between Waqar and Wasim is too thin to outrightly prove who was a better bowler. I quoted two greats and ill quote another great Brian Lara

    Over my 15 or 16 years of playing international cricket in Tests and One Day Internationals, Wasim Akram is definitely the most outstanding bowler I’ve ever faced.

    Brian Lara ( wikipedia)

    I cited his world cup performance as an example of his reverse swing ability. Thats not the only reason I rate him (slightly) higher than Waqar. Khansahab Stats would

    in some cases favor Waqar and in some cases wasim (like his 880 Wickets in international cricket- second only to Murali). But if Waqar is rated by someone better than

    Wasim then Iam ok with that, because the margin too thin. Its not like rating Lee better than Mcgrath.

    Well Shoaib if only 5% indians reject what you say, why your book launching ceremonies were cancelled. Having said that, there is some merit in what u say.

  235. #235 by Namaloom Afraad on September 27, 2011 - 6:36 PM

    Tom

    I think the reason why these greats rate Wasim so highly is because of Wasim’s consistency and longevity.

    Plus, Wasim was a reasonably successful captain. It all adds up doesn’t it? The match winning WC performance, consecutive Test hat-tricks, captaincy, batting talent, good PR etc is why he is generally regarded as a better bowler.

    I remember being inspired by Waqar and how often he used to take 3-4 wickets or more in a match, but somehow I don’t remember watching Wasim perform such feats. Wasim was always more of a conventional swing bowler, to me. Waqar was the one who used to do remarkable things like get the old ball to move a considerable distance, bowling yorkers that swung very late and again a good distance.

    Wasim’s bowling, to me, was not very different to say McGrath’s. But Waqar I thought was just unique.

  236. #236 by Namaloom Afraad on September 27, 2011 - 6:39 PM

    Tom

    What Akhtar is saying there makes sense.

    It all depends on what he has mentioned in his book and how the media has reported it.

    If he says “Sachin was scared of me and is not a match winner”, that is not very believable to the neutral observer.

    But if he says, “Sachin was scared of me on one (or a few) occasion(s), and he did not win any matches when I played”, that is obviously something very different and more acceptable.

  237. #237 by Namaloom Afraad on September 27, 2011 - 6:48 PM

    Tom

    One person I feel is definitely overrated is Shoaib Akhtar.

    He is all about pomp and show.

    If he won 30 matches for Pakistan in his sorry career he must have lost 75 matches due to walking off the field and losing his rhythm.

    If fast bowlers win you matches, they also lose you matches and he was a HUGE match loser. There have been many matches when a 2 or 3 over spell from him has lost Pakistan the match.

    So, he is a huge match loser in reality and extremely overrated. Due to his pathetic attitude to the game Pakistan could never give consistent exposure to some other good pacers who could have been more influential than Akhtar- there was always a doubt about his fitness and he was an automatic selection if fit- this dilemma must have come in the way of so many young pacers who could have made it big.

  238. #238 by Namaloom Afraad on September 27, 2011 - 6:51 PM

    Pakistan’s lookout for a coach is turning out to be a flop as they have not received any applications from renowned coaches.

    I was assuming that money would tempt aspiring coaches but I guess people don’t want to join a system being headed by Ijaz Butt.

  239. #239 by tom on September 27, 2011 - 8:00 PM

    Khansahab

    You have to give him credit for longevity, consistency and successful captain. If you compare him with Mcgrath, then I would say Mcgrath was better than both Wasim and Waqar.

    if Shoaib is overated, than its the media and the public’s fault. By reacting to his comments in this manner, Shoaib is being treated like an expert. To hell if he says Sachin was scared, why all the fuss.

    Sania mailk only gets attention in sub continent. Her husband is an average tennis player who is benefitting from being from subcontinent- if he was from Europe or united States nobody would have given a damn.

  240. #240 by tom on September 27, 2011 - 8:03 PM

    Khansahab

    I told you no foreign coach would come to Pakistan- nobody wants a Woolmer sequel. To hell with the $$. I dont think its Butt, rather its the law and order situation which prevents people from taking this post.

  241. #241 by Namaloom Afraad on September 27, 2011 - 8:38 PM

    Tom

    I agree Sania is only shown attention because being from subcontinent.

    However the sex symbol image has helped to some extent.

  242. #242 by tom on September 27, 2011 - 9:03 PM

    Khansahab

    Do you think any high profile Indian cricketer or celebrity would have married The Tennis Player?

    No.

    A Yuvraj, Dhoni, Sehwag , or likes of Salman Khan, none of these guys would have married her. So she married a Pakistani Cricketer about whom she was sure would remain subdued publicly and privately- killed 2 birds with one stone. She got the attention and also got a stooge. She lives in Dubai, rarely comes to Pakistan and enjoys the attention specially the stupid Pakistani media gives her. She got more than her worth.

    Right now the tennis pair of Aisam and Bopanna from the sub continent get more attention than her. Once she retires from tennis, she wont get much attention from Indian media. However, Pakistani media would still be obsessed with her.

  243. #243 by tom on September 27, 2011 - 9:13 PM

    Khansahab

    Why do these players scream after retirement about match fixing. Dont you think being silent tantamounts to guilt. If 3-4 players fix a match and other players are aware of it, they should report it, rather than publish a book after retirement and making disclosures. In a way thats also cheating as the players who have fixed may influence the outcome of the game. Shoaib says there was match fixing so he should mention names and matches where it happened.

  244. #244 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 28, 2011 - 2:49 AM

    I agree that the difference between Wasim and Waqar is very marginal. One cannot say who is more consistent or better, Wasim had more wickets but, Waqar played less matches than him, however both were great bowlers of their era. I used to enjoy watching them bowling in tandem. Those two magic balls from Wasim on which he got Allan Lamb and Lewis out were definitely better than Shane Warne’s ball of the century, Warne’s ball may have spun on a small rock or whatever but, these two deliveries were gems. I saw that match live, I was in Dubai then. In fact I took a day off from the bank on that day. When I officially asked for a day off my CEO said, “you are taking a day off from work for the match?” I said YES but, please tell me will you be working here while the match is in progress? He smiled and said, “Jaiyeh, Jaiyeh.” Because, he also stayed at home till the match was over.

    Anyways, I also remember Waqar’s toe crushing yorkers that flattened the batsmen and their wickets. He was unplayable when the ball was reversing. Wasim used to produce the same speed even with his shorter run up and I saw that one over which he bowled to McGrath and McGrath said, he would never forget that over, although Wasim could not get him out but, every ball was different, earlier on he was more effective against Tendulkar and Lara both but, not later. When he was captain in the WC which they lost against Australia so cheaply, his captaincy was pathetic, I knew there was something more than what meets the eye, especially when they lost against Bangladesh in England in the same WC, was it?

    Both used to bowl very well in tandem and I remember the two low scoring ODI’s in SA and in both matches Pakistan were all out below or around 160 and SA were cruising like something 136/4 and suddenly the ball reversed and SA lost 6 more wickets in just 4-5 overs and lost those two matches in similar fashion but, then I don’t remember bowling them like that, they used to take wickets but, not in tandem. Wasim spoiled his image because of his corrupt nature and character and now he is very, very greedy and selfish also a big liar. I have no respect for him. Also, Waqar too lost his respect in my eyes while he was coach up till now.

    Akhtar bowled well earlier on but, the early success got into his head i.e., taking Tendulkar and Dravid’s wickets in two deliveries. Since then he showed sporadic brilliance and terrible mediocrity so, he cannot be remembered as a great bowler but, just THE fast bowler. Apart from his two wickets, I remember how he knocked off Lara. Actually Lara fell on the ground like a lizard when he was hit on the neck at the bowling of Akhtar and he was the first one to run up to him and apologized. There were some good things about Akhtar but, his tantrums and temper ruined everything and also his stubbornness not to change his long run up, eventually he did but by then he ran out of steam and after every single over he was seen at the boundary line huffing and puffing inhalers. Whenever he was hit earlier on, he lost his cool and never recovered. Whereas initial quick wickets used to make him a tiger. But, Kamran Akmal factor cannot be ignored even in this recent WC if he had not dropped those catches against NZ, especially that of Ross Taylor things would have been different, Akhtar lost his confidence and that is why he yelled, abused and even went close to hitting Akmal. Like that Bandar Sreesanth Akmal also deserved a few thappars, unfortunately that didn’t happen and Akmal is spreading his wings to fly again, this time IF he comes back and performs the same way then his BUCK TEETH must be knocked off and his pongee nose must be flattened to cheeks.

  245. #245 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 10:17 AM

    Akhtar stressed, hurt over negative publicity of his book

    Islamabad, Sept 28 (ANI): Fprmer Pakistan fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar is stressed and hurt due to the negative media publicity of his book ‘Controversially Yours’, co-author of the book Anshu Dogra has said.

    The people have caught the only line where Shoaib had an out of context reference of Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid in the book, the co-author said, adding that they have given enough credit to the duo for the service they have rendered to the game,” The Nation reports.

  246. #246 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 10:20 AM

    Relation between PCB and Miandad sour further

    Karachi, Sept 26: The war of words between Pakistan cricket Board and former captain Javed Miandad intensified today with the chief organizer of the national T20 championship taking a jibe at Miandad for making an issue out of not being properly invited for the event.

    Miandad had complained in the national media yesterday that the board had sent him just a single invitation for the national T20 championship that began on Sunday and have also not kept him in the organising committee.

    “I don’t think this is such a big issue it is unfortunate that a person of Miandad’s calibre is making an issue of this.

    There is no issue with the cards how many does he want I will deliver them personally myself to him at his home,” Wazir Ali Khoja, who heads the championship organizing committee, told reporters at the stadium today.

  247. #247 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 10:23 AM

    Banker Ali Reza to be new Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman?

    KARACHI: Pakistan’s top banker Ali Reza has emerged as a possible candidate to take over as Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman as incumbent Ijaz Butt may not get an extension, media reports say.

    Some television channels reported on Tuesday that Ali Reza may be asked to replace Butt by next month.

    “Yes there is some substance to these rumours but nothing is decided as yet and the President has yet to take a decision on this issue. But Ali Reza’s name is being considered for the top cricket post,” a government source said.

  248. #248 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 10:27 AM

    Is Zardari looking to appoint this guy for the post? He seems to be another corrupt crony:

    PPP CORRUPTION: Ali Raza of National Bank

    Pakistan Daily

    December 28th, 2009

    One has to wonder why the National Bank of Pakistan the only government owned commercial bank is the only commercial bank that will fund projects like the RPP’s that are owned by Iqbal Z. Ahmed and Anwar Majeed. Or extend loans to companies that give Mir Raza son of Ali Raza allocations of LPG without him having a LPG marketing company at the time the allocation was originally given, though with the money that was made from the allocation for several years they used to set up the marketing company/bottling plant.

    It is not secret that all projects that Mr. Zardari’s front men wanted funded are being done so by Mr. Syed Ali Raza President of National Bank of Pakistan (he enjoys the protocol of a Chief Minister while moving from one place to the other and also extended to his son, daughter n daughter in law) who’s brother Mr. Syed Salim Raza an ex-Citibank Private bank employee
    who was implicated in the US Senate money laundering report to have opened Swiss bank accounts for the President in violation of Citibank’s own policies and is currently the Governor of the State Bank of Pakistan!

    Is this a quid pro quo pay off by the President for Salim to keep his mouth shut about the accounts details of which he clearly knows about having been in charge of EMEA accounts under which Pakistan feel during his tenure with Citi. His younger brother Ali who right after the elections went to meet President Zardari by asking Mr. Anwer Majeed to arrange the meeting was told by the President in that very meeting to do any and everything that Anwer wanted,” as he was his mentor”. Low and behold right after that Ali Raza funded all Anwer Majeed’s favorite projects and is ordered what to do by his older son AG Majeed.

    It would be interesting to note Anwer has gained the reputation of being the most powerful man in Pakistan and is known to get whatever he wants done by all Government Ministries/Institutions. He has had 2 of his son’s father-in-laws appointed to high posts. Mr. Shaukat Tarin got be Finance
    Minister and Mr. Farooq Rahimatulla Chairman of an oil company!

    Majeed and Zardari decided that they wanted to also expand their joint business empire and Ali Raza even went to extent of cancelling the loans for Dewan Groups sugar and cement mills to enable the Anwar Zardari team to buy these assets at throw away prices, something that they are still trying to do. Anwer has also managed to have the ECC (the chairman of which is his
    son’s father in law i.e. Shaukat Tarin) ban the export of molasses to enable the famous E-10 policy of blending ethanol into petrol be implemented into Pakistan. The blending of ethanol with petrol was tried by the previous Government and failed as it was not feasible but with the Zardari government in power and he himself owning so many sugar mills there was a sudden
    U-turn. It would be interesting to note that PSO is being used to implement this project as mode of delivery and the only sugar mill/distillery that bid for the supply of the ethanol to be used for blending with petrol for the project is Naudero and belongs to the Majeed/Zardari team! Rumor has is all other mills were told to stay away from the bidding for supply of ethanol if
    they knew what was good for them.

    The RPP funding especially of Iqbal Z. Ahmed’s/Anwer Majeed partnership projects which were ramroded through and for which even the rental power policy were changed are all miraculously being funded by guess who? Yes it is once again Mr. Syed Ali Raza and National Bank of Pakistan to the rescue. Why must one ask? Is it that another extension to him is on the cards? Is 10 years not enough as NBP President? Meetings that are held for these projects at NBP are attended by AG Majeed and Iqbal Z Ahmed though Anwer Majeed is not a partner on paper for these projects. These projects were so unfeasible that Mr. Masood Karim someone who was known to be Ali Raza’s lap dog when asked to jump would say how high even resigned from the bank as his department corporate banking was being forced by Ali to fund these projects!
    One can only wonder how dangerous funding of these projects will be for the NBP an institution. Ali Reza is the only head of a Government Institution/ Bank who has got such high salary and bonuses that no Govt functionary could ever dream of.

    How could this be allowed. Supreme court also took suo moto notice but it was thrown on the back burner. He started receiving bonus for last 4 years but when informed the National Assembly it was shown as received over ten years .He has a dozen security guards at home besides police guards and mobiles and owns bullet proof BMW 7 series air lifted and gifted by Yusuf Dewan, Mercedes top of the line, Toyota, BMW Range Rover SUV’s, Toyota Camry, Corollas parked outside his house and most of them rusting. Which Governor Chief Minister or federal Minister can match Ali Reza in perks ,
    privilege and protocol.

  249. #249 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 12:10 PM

    Kamran Abbasi is a good writer.

    Look at how he describes Akhtar in polite words. He is in other words saying Akhtar is an idiot, but in a nice way:

    Of the rest, nothing seems particularly new, a rerun of old rivalries, intrigues, and badmashies. Capturing the world according to Shoaib is a worthy effort. He is a difficult man to pin down in a verbal joust. Ask him about Sachin and he’ll tell you about Brian Lara. He will mumble incoherently in English and end with no greater clarity in Urdu. He will use a torrent of words — many in common usage, some of his own invention — in an unpredictable order and manage to say nothing at all.

  250. #250 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 28, 2011 - 1:32 PM

    The PCB is an organization of vultures, reportedly they will now be using Akhtar’s book against him in the court case that is still pending (7 million Rs. fine) decision. Taffazul Rizvi the liar told the news reporters that now they have some material against him from his own book. Has Butt not said anything against the country or in damaging the country’s image? He has done more than that. Even after Butt is retired and if the new management comes into effect then they should try him in the court and make the rest of life a hell.

    Zardari on a private visit to Hong Kong to buy some towering commercial properties?

  251. #251 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 28, 2011 - 1:43 PM

    On Sania Malik marrying Shoaib Mirza, you guys were saying that Dhoni, Yuvraj or Salman Khan wouldn’t have married her so, Sialkoti was the only choice for her.

    Actually knowing their family who are very staunch Shias they would have never married her among the Hindus and she does not have that much authority to go against her family and Sialkoti’s chances improved a lot not because he was ex-captain of the Pakistan cricket team but, he is also a Shia hence, both families agreed along with both parties. Besides, they developed some kinda bonding in Australia before announcing their marriage, so there was something more than a marriage of convenience i.e., she was looking for a BALL BOY ! 😀

    Another point is age is against her, she knew that if she retires from Int. Tennis no one would approach her, rather every famous person would ignore her and she might end up with an unknown entity. As regards her living in Dubai, I don’t blame her because, Sialkot is not a place to live or, even visit.

    As regards Salman Khan the Skunk (because he is always drunk like a skunk) he can only target the cheap tarty, party, farty girls like Katrina Phatrina and that is their aim too, i.e., to get tagged with him and get more famous.

  252. #252 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 1:47 PM

    Tom

    Well if Sania Mirza was Sharapova anyone would marry her.

    Sania was at least one of India’s best tennis players whereas Malik was always a limited player. Don’t really know what made him perform at no 3 during Inzamam’s time, which is why I used to support him at one stage. He was very consistent then.

    About match fixing, yeah there is definitely more than meets the eye. The players don’t want to make enemies when they are playing, I guess. If you look at Afridi’s reaction after the spot fixing news, he did not show surprise. It is like, all of them know it is going on, they just don’t want to admit it. But the PCB has not been responsible enough and they are equally to blame. When match fixing has apparently happened in the tenures of people like Inti Alam, Ijaz Ahmed or Yawar Saeed, how do you expect these “managers” to control this if they keep being reappointed in one capacity or another? You almost feel like they encourage it.

  253. #253 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 1:50 PM

    Javed A Khan

    That cheap tarty girl you called Phatrina might be a Hoor on Planet Earth so please don’t criticise her……………………….

    Please don’t say anything bad about her 😀

  254. #254 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 28, 2011 - 1:54 PM

    Ali Raza is a known corrupt banker and very notorious to have acquired wealth through illegal means and now he is looking for becoming more popular because the post of the PCB Chairman is one of the prized posts in Pakistan. The Banker’s tag on Raza’s Butt does not make him any better than Ijaz Butt to run the PCB, he is not from the commercial private banks but, from National Bank of Pakistan and has remained as the CEO of that bank for over 10 years. If he replaces BUTT, and performs in the same manner, then no one can remove him either until Zardari is gone. So, if he is appointed then the cricket in Pakistan will be out of the frying pan into the fire.

    It is very unfortunate that the replacements in Pakistan (instead of getting better) always get worst. Look at Zardari and how he came in from the backdoor and what he is doing. People were not happy with Musharraf who was and still is a zillion times better than Bharmaaree BC.

  255. #255 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 1:57 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Malik lives in Lahore, Sania could have lived a life of luxury there.

    But of course that would put her Indian cricket career in jeopardy.

    Also, she would not want to disappoint the nationalistic Indians by living in Pakistan.

  256. #256 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 28, 2011 - 1:58 PM

    khansahab

    she may be sexually very attractive but, I am sure she too is one hell of a stinking girl ready to jump in any rich man’s bed.

    As regards your passionate feelings about her, I won’t blame you because, you are young and unmarried and you only see the obvious things and do not have the ability to delve deeper in it, 😉 Beauty is only on surface and wisdom is deep down, do you know how to delve deeper? 😀

  257. #257 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 28, 2011 - 2:03 PM

    Also, she would not want to disappoint the nationalistic Indians by living in Pakistan.

    khansahab, this is what I have been saying from the very beginning that Pakistani famous and TUTT POONJIYE stars have no loyalties for their country, whereas, Indians do have it. If she lives with Malik in Lahore, she could have easily replied back to her critics that she is living with her husband. She has decided not to get a Pakistani passport either. Malik IF forced by her, may go and live in Bombay. Besides, who says Malik only lives in Lahore? He frequently shunts between Dubai and Lahore also, he tags along with her to the US and UK or else who will pick her balls? 😀

  258. #258 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 2:06 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I think Katrina looks better with clothes on. She is of course sexually attractive but I don’t think of her as a sex symbol.

    Her sister is pretty, too.

  259. #259 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 2:09 PM

    Javed A Khan

    The moment I heard she was getting married to Malik, I knew she would not live in Pakistan. I was thinking she would live in India somewhere with him, but of course they chose the “middle” option of Dubai because they can both pursue their relative careers with relative ease living in UAE.

    As far as Pakistanis are concerned, they have shown they do not care if their stars live in India because, many Pakistani stars such as Wasim Akram or Adnan Sami now live in India or at least visit India regularly and Pakistanis still love them.

  260. #260 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 2:24 PM

    People often ask why Pakistanis have become so lawless nowadays.

    The answer is that they know that the top political leadership are all corrupt thugs and goons.

    So, once in a while people go astray and believe that, lawlessness and crime will pay and reward them.

  261. #261 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 2:29 PM

    The difference between corruption in India and Pakistan:

    Many people believe that India has a perfect government and a completely democratic system. If you read about the various crises the Congress government is facing you will realise that there is plenty of corruption in India.

    But, there are two main differences between corruption in the two countries. One- in India the percentage of corrupt people is less. Secondly, in India the structure of corruption is haphazard and non linear. For example, Manmohan Singh is not corrupt. Some people below him may be more corrupt and might have amassed more wealth due to corruption. A provincial minister may be more corrupt than a federal minister.

    But, in Pakistan Zardari is the most corrupt person and has a network of “chamchays” whom he has appointed personally. So in Pakistan there is a hierarchy- it starts from the President and goes all the way down to the administrator who works for the postal service, or the electricity department, who deals with money in and money out.

  262. #262 by tom on September 28, 2011 - 3:12 PM

    Its true Sania is no Sharapova. Even if there was no religuous bar, I dont think top class cricketers or film celebrities would have married sania. She was a good player few years ago but now she’s on the verge of retirement- ready to devote full time to her caddy malik and give orders.

    Khansahab in my humble opinion the main difference between India and pakistan and infact between many countries and pakistan are strong institutions. Due to intervention of army, strong institutional system never flourished which is not the case in India. There were always thugs and goons at the top; leaders who either are corrupt or make deals with corrupt to save their skin (NRO an example where Mush facilitated return of the devil who ousted him). If another army intervention happens, the forces will take hold of civil institutions like utillities, sports bodies,civic administration etc and then the Chief ( which would be kiyani in this case) would forge deals with all corrupt parties and then it will beback to square one. this cycle will roll for a decade, then elections and a new government and then same quarrels and then again martial law.

    Either perennial democracy or permanent military rule- one of them should remain. But foreign enemies specially US doesnt let one system to continue. They support military dictatorship and then make U turn and after sometime call for democracy. they supported Mush and then in the end told him to strip off (remove uniform) and finally told him to go home and replaced him with zardari and started taking credit for democracy. Now they are not happy with present government and who knows another military takeover is just round the corner.

  263. #263 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 28, 2011 - 4:49 PM

    khansahab

    I know that in India too there is corruption and the amounts involved in a few cases runs into billions of dollars. The reason people outside India do not pay heed to their corruption and highlight Pakistan’s, is because of the stability in the government of India as opposed to Pakistan’s and of course because of the top man being so highly corrupt and the entire Wolfgang Mafia is corrupt too. So, that is the major difference between India and Pakistan. Besides, India’s diplomacy is much better than Pakistan’s

  264. #264 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 5:05 PM

    Tom

    I’m not sure- Sania remains an icon in India. Sure her popularity might have declined over the years but she was still “desirable”.

    She was India’s best female tennis player and also became a sex symbol within India.

    Obviously she cannot compare with Sharapova based on talent and looks.

  265. #265 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 5:07 PM

    Javed A Khan

    If the PCB want to use Akhtar’s book so be it.

    Akhtar is not doing any favours to Pakistan even after his retirement.

    He has lost Pakistan many more matches than he has won and if people would start seeing the whole picture he would have zero fan following.

    The way he attracts controversy like a magnet, it is better he stays as far away from cricket as possible.

  266. #266 by tom on September 28, 2011 - 6:09 PM

    Khansahab

    her popularity is dwindling. To be very frank with you, she never seemed “desirable”.

  267. #267 by tom on September 28, 2011 - 6:12 PM

    Iam beginning to love this guy. What he says now does make some sense and I fail to understand the over criticism and demands for apology.

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/28/%E2%80%98you-can%E2%80%99t-put-a-gun-to-my-head-and-make-me-like-tendulkar%E2%80%99.html

  268. #268 by Namaloom Afraad on September 28, 2011 - 6:21 PM

    Tom

    Man she was very desirable in India.

    Speak from the Indians’ perspective.

  269. #269 by tom on September 28, 2011 - 6:37 PM

    Perhaps she was

    Iam talking about the present; anyway beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.

    The Indian perspective is very strange- You can assess from yhe case of shoaib vs tendulkar

  270. #270 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 28, 2011 - 8:37 PM


    You cannot put a gun on my head and make me like Tendulkar ……………
    . well said, ACTOR.

    I agree with Akhtar, he has his opinion and that should be respected, if you don’t agree its your prerogative and your choice. I also like Viv Richards, Lara and Imran Khan and I have always said this many, many times that there is no batsman like King Richards, no matter where you place the field, he used find gaps and his shots were always all along the carpet in test matches. When he played ODI, his critics said he may not hit sixes and he proved them wrong. His 187 was one of the great knocks especially considering that, he batted at number 4 whereas, Saeed Anwar, Tendulkar and Dhoni or that ZIM player who equaled Saeed Anwer’s record, in fact broke it by remaining not out, they all OPENED THE INNINGS so they had more balls to play and more time to adjust. Richards shots were so strong that whenever he used to hit, cut or drive, no fielder ever moved from his position and the ball crossed the boundary line.

    Lara imo is the most stylish player ever, call him whatever and say he had advantage because he was a left handed batsmen and lefties are more stylish etc. etc., I don’t buy the argument also IMO, Dhoni plays his shots in the ugliest manner, I call him A JHATKAY WALA PLAYER, he jerks and shakes his body so much that he looks awful, that so called HELICOPTER shot, he got out on that last time in England playing that same stupid shot, in that respect he belongs to Misbah‘s league of playing stupid shots.

    Imran Khan, I rate him as the best all rounder because, he was not just a great bowler and a good batsman but, he also captained the side at the same time which no one else did in such a successful manner, not even Gary Sobers, whom the cricinfo rated him as the best all-rounder in the world, ever. BS.

  271. #271 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 28, 2011 - 8:39 PM

    India’s perspective?

    Every single chinglee, bollywood ki aikustra and a gashtee is desirable there.

  272. #272 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 28, 2011 - 8:57 PM

    I have said this before that the PCB is treating DANISH KANERIA LIKE A THIRD GRADE CITIZEN and I wrote it here that they will keep on postponing his court hearing date till such time his playing career is over. What a disgrace to nation this MF Butt is. The date has been extended further and Kaneria has asked is it because I am from KARACHI? Actually Kaneria is being modest he should have gone further by adding and BECAUSE I AM A HINDU?

  273. #273 by tom on September 28, 2011 - 9:05 PM

    The most amazing thing about Viv’s batting was the fact that he NEVER WORE A HELMET. He faced class, express bowlers in his career like lillee, thompson, Botham, Imran, but he never wore a helmet. And I can say this with certainity- no bowler, no matter how quick he was can claim that Viv was scared of him (even once).

    The only other Batsmen who started their careers without helmets were Carl hooper and Ricky ponting. But later on both resorted to helmets. Another aspect about Viv was that he was a successful captain. Once he left, West indies started declining and today are slightly better than Bangladesh and (maybe) Pakistan.

  274. #274 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 28, 2011 - 9:07 PM

    khansahab

    Akhtar winning or losing the matches for Pakistan has nothing to do with his book or his statements and it is not right calling him a disgrace, Wasim, Waqar and all those RASHEE and MURTASHEE are a disgrace, Akhtar is honest. Therefore, for that one quality which is rare, one must appreciate it and not criticize him from another aspect. In any case it is your opinion and your view. I have expressed mine.

    Like you expressed your views on Azharuddin’s son’s death and in the end you wrote, I would have been more sympathetic for Azhar if he was not involved in match fixing. A son’s death is a catastrophe for any father and whether someone shows more sympathies or less, it does not change or reduce the father’s grief. It is indeed very sad from a human perspective. Even if it was Azharuddin or anyone else in that situation my sympathies would not change because of that person’s background. I did not disagree with you then, because I know everyone has his own view and I respect that.

  275. #275 by tom on September 28, 2011 - 9:08 PM

    Shame on you PCB and Busted Butt for ruining Kaneria. This is sheer injustice. Why doesn’t the honble Chief justice take Suo moto and remove Butt?

  276. #276 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 28, 2011 - 9:14 PM

    The Dishonourable cheap justice is worst than the horse piss and, he is another MF of the corrupt system, he is a cog in their wheel which is running Deenga Ponga. I have always disliked CJ Chowdhary for his dual policies and he got what he deserved, screwed by Mian Sahab as well as Zardari.

  277. #277 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 10:22 AM

    Javed A Khan

    You are making it sound like I showed no sympathy for Ajaruddin. If my comment was 6 lines then 4 of those were devoted to sympathy and I also said that “Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi rajioon”.

    I don’t think there is anything wrong with feeling less sympathy for someone corrupt if their loved one passes away. I was more sympathetic when Younis Khan’s brother died as opposed to when Wasim Akram’s wife died. Similarly, when Bob Woolmer passed away, the reaction from Pakistani public (not the media and PCB) was that, he probably committed suicide because of the humiliation he made Pakistan go through.

    It was the PCB and media that made Woolmer popular in Pakistan although much of the public disliked him.

    I felt it was necessary to clarify this because it is about your perception of my reaction following someone’s death unlike whatever our views may be about Tendulkar, for example.

    As far as Azharuddin is concerned, he was a role model for many Indians, Indian Muslims in particular and he let them down. Unlike the Pakistani match fixers he never appeared to have an ego or attitude and that is why there was so much shock when he was found guilty of match fixing. If he was Pakistani his match fixing scandal would have made front page news across the world but because he is from India, the world does not talk so much about him and Jadeja, or Prabhakar or SRT and Dravid for their ball tampering.

  278. #278 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 12:24 PM

    Lata surprised by Shoaib’s remarks on Sachin

    Mumbai: Singing legend Lata Mangeshkar is surprised at the comments of Pakistani bowler Shoaib Akhtar on ace cricketer Sachin Tendulkar.

    In his just-released book ‘Controversially Yours’, Akhtar has claimed that batting maestro Tendulkar was afraid of facing his deliveries and that he and Rahul Dravid lack the “art of finishing the game”.

    “Did he really say that Sachin was scared to face his bowling? Look, no one can take away from Sachin what he has achieved. Anyone who speaks ill of someone as great as Sachin is making more a comment on himself than on anyone else,” said Lata, who turned 82 Wednesday.

  279. #279 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 12:29 PM

    Sorry Shoaib, I won’t be buying your book

    R Mohan

    Why are we paying so much attention to a disgusting contrarian like Shoaib Akhtar? The renegade Pakistani cricketer has had a few silly thoughts that usually occur to temperamental fast bowlers ghost-written into an English book to sell a few copies in India. So much importance is being paid to this by Indians, including the venerable behemoth BCCI, it appears we are playing into the hands of his publishers.

    Consider Shoaib’s record. In his celebrity life, he must rank as low as Kim Kardashian, recently voted as the most annoying of the tribe. Throughout his playing career, he was a showboat who kept his captains on tenterhooks. With him, they never knew who would turn up at the match – a tearaway fast bowler capable of sending fear into the minds of batsmen or a profligate quick who undid all the solid work put in by others to try and win a match.

    To hear Shoaib speak so disparagingly of a couple of Indian legends like Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid conjures up images of dogs barking at the caravan, as General Smuts put it so splendidly. The two gentlemen he takes pot shots at have between them made mountains of runs, some 50,000 plus. When they batted together recently in the England Tests, it was the first time in 90 years that Test cricket’s two top run-getters were being featured in a stand.

    While we hold Sachin and Rahul in our greatest regard, there is no reason to take offence at someone who has a contrary opinion about them. No batsman likes to face the fastest of cricket balls hurled at him at a pace that tests the speed guns. And when a bowler with a javelin thrower’s action sends it at them at so many kmh per second, it must be particularly irksome because the kinky elbow does a bit to hide the trajectory. Maybe, on an off day, he saw the greats creak a bit.

    In the typical fashion of politicians and public figures who always think the media has not properly portrayed their words of wisdom, Shoaib has a go on Indian soil against a media who his publishers think are going to help the book move off the shelves. After all, how many English books would sell in Pakistan? Where you can sell some of them is in England, India and Australia, probably in that order. In this elaborate charade, it is India and Indians that come out second best.

    What he has to say about Lalit Modi and Shah Rukh Khan is also perhaps aimed at celebrities so as to create shock waves. And here he is talking about men who went out of their way to accommodate this India baiter in the Indian Premier League. They must have bent every rule in the book to bring him over as a character rather than a great match winner, which he never was in the T20 arena, excepting very briefly when the situation of his arrival seemed to inspire him.

    Having arrived on a promotional tour to India, he then goes on to say that SRK treated him like a loving brother and switches to pointing his finger at Lalit as the principal culprit. All it suggests is we are talking about one big mixed-up dude. Once he lands in the land of spin, the self-confessed ball-tamperer starts believing in putting a spin on everything. He even has a laugh at Indians who let their anger show on each other in public as Harbhajn Singh did so infamously in slapping Sreesanth.

    The one thing to be said in favour of the mixed up dude is he never got mixed up in the match-fixing scandal that surrounded so many prominent Pakistani cricketers, especially bowlers because they could help with the spot-fixing so much more than batsmen. All they have to do is apparently to bowl a few no balls and wides at strategic intervals. And, thank heavens, he apparently does not believe in the kiss-and-tell. But that could be because the classic expose may help cinema stars sell their celeb status but not cricketers’ books.

    The whole thing would be so laughable if not for the fact that Indians are being suckered in all this. Shoaib has the temerity to plead that we should all go out and buy his book to understand his under-the-belt comments better. I am not certain I would be dashing down to the bookshop to buy a tome that takes a dig at heroes who mean so much to Indian cricket. Well, at least they didn’t have feet of clay to indulge in drugs like our great character from across the border did.

  280. #280 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 12:37 PM

    Did Lata Mangeshkar really need to comment about cricket?

    How much does she know about cricket and why did the media approach her to make this comment?

    What significance does her comment hold?

  281. #281 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 29, 2011 - 1:11 PM

    Lata Mangeshkar is one biased bitch, she should keep her mouth restricted to singing and sucking up to for Bal Thackery’s balls. I know about her dual standards, in Dubai someone sponsored her to come to Dubai and sing, almost 3 days before the show and her arrival she found out that the man organizing the show is a Pakistani and she refused to come to Dubai by saying; “I don’t want to sing for Pakistanis and Muslims both.” and demanded to change the organizer. That was done but, the sponsor was still a UAE Muslim, she was then asked by the underworld notorious gang to stop making excuses and come to Dubai and fulfill her contractual obligation. She came, because of the threat.

    Btw, who is this MF Mohan? And why should he say sorry to Shoaib? You don’t buy the book you can very well go to hell why feel sorry? You think Shoaib will die of hunger and malnutrition if you don’t buy his book? Ch2yeh why can’t you produce a Javelin Thrower? The least you could do is get a Harbhajan Chucker and that is your limit. Kapil Dev and Irfan Pathan’s normal balls were about the same speed as of Shahid Afridi’s faster ones. Has India ever produced a fast bowler who could bowl @ 150kmph? I think its a dream for them.

    About Azharuddin, I did not say you did not sympathize but, you said I would have been more sympathetic. For me when I saw the picture of his 18 year old kid, I felt very sorry that he died tragically and at such a tender age. So, I felt very bad for Azharuddin. As regards Wasim Akram, I felt bad for Huma Mufti because this bastard was never near her when she was on the deathbed whereas, he was in Sushmita’s Pehloo like a 2 feet ki lambi naak wala Langoor. He shed crocodile tears on her death like Zardari who gave his speech at the UN by keeping BB’s picture in front of him and that too facing the audience and trying to get sympathies, the next day he was proposing Sarah Palin to give her a HUG. Sala MF bastard. See whoever does wrong whether a Muslim, Hindu, Indian, Pakistani, irrespective of CCC and nationality, we do criticize them as wrong. So, people should not think that we are targeting Hindus or Indians or Punjabis.

    We devoted a thread for Danish Kaneria, we criticized heavily at Wasim Akram and Gang. We sympathized with Azharuddin, even if it was Gavaskar or any other Hindu player the feelings would have been same because the child was innocent he had nothing to do with anyone else.

    ANYWAYS, THANK YOU INDIANS FOR PUBLICIZING SHOAIB ACTOR’S BOOK BY CRITICIZING HIM SO HEAVILY, CURIOSITY WILL SELL THE BOOK. IF NOT IN INDIA MAY BE ELSEWHERE AND THEY WILL MAKE COPIES AND READ IT.

  282. #282 by tom on September 29, 2011 - 3:59 PM

    Lata mangeshkar commenting on Shoaib’s book- give me a break.

    The only ones left now are Manmohan singh and Amitabh Bachan.

    It seems the book will also break some sales barrier just like the 100 mile barrier.

  283. #283 by tom on September 29, 2011 - 4:01 PM

    Search for a new coach- may be a foreigner is interested.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/534363.html

  284. #284 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 4:17 PM

    I was thinking most of the injured Indian players would be fit for the England ODI series but apparently, not so. India have announced their squad which is filled with inexperienced players.

    I personally feel dropping Harbhajan was a bad move because his experience would have helped amongst so many inexperienced players. I think it is now pretty evident that Mishra and Ojha are not any better than Harbhajan.

    Harbhajan dropped for first two ODIs

    Offspinner Harbhajan Singh has been left out of India’s squad for the first two ODIs against England on October 14 and 17. Karnataka medium-pacer S Aravind and Punjab legspinner Rahul Sharma have received their maiden international call-ups.

    Fast bowler, Varun Aaron who was part of the ODI squad in England but did not play, retained his place in the 15-man team. Batsmen Ajinkya Rahane and Manoj Tiwary are the other replacements sent to England who kept their spots.

    Fast bowler Umesh Yadav, who was not part of the India set-up since the 2010-11 Test series in South Africa, also made a comeback.

    The squad is missing Sachin Tendulkar, Virender Sehwag, Zaheer Khan, Yuvraj Singh, Rohit Sharma, Munaf Patel and Ishant Sharma due to injuries sustained on the recent tour of England. Fast bowler Ashish Nehra, who had declared himself fit after breaking his hand during the World Cup, and allrounder Yusuf Pathan, who was part of the World Cup squad, were not selected.

    India’s squad contained five batsmen – Gautam Gambhir, Ajinkya Rahane, Virat Kohli, Suresh Raina and Manoj Tiwary – two wicketkeeper batsmen – MS Dhoni and Parthiv Patel – and one allrounder in Ravindra Jadeja. The bowling attack comprised five seamers – Varun Aaron, Umesh Yadav, Vinay Kumar, S Aravind and Praveen Kumar – and two spinners in R Ashwin and Rahul Sharma.

    Harbhajan’s axeing came after his disappointing performance during the Test series in England, where he took only two wickets in 69.4 overs at an average of 143.50 and economy-rate of 4.11. He suffered a stomach injury during the second Test and was ruled out of the last two matches and the limited-overs series that followed. India lost the Test series 0-4 and the ODI series 0-3 in England.

    This selection meeting in Chennai was the first since the BCCI replaced Yashpal Sharma with Mohinder Amarnath as the North Zone representative on the panel.

    Squad: MS Dhoni (capt & wk), Gautam Gambhir, Parthiv Patel, Ajinkya Rahane, Virat Kohli, Suresh Raina, Ravindra Jadeja, R Ashwin, Varun Aaron, Umesh Yadav, Vinay Kumar, S Aravind, Rahul Sharma, Manoj Tiwary, Praveen Kumar.

  285. #285 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 4:31 PM

    No one came to watch the Faysal Bank Townty Townty Cup before today at National Stadium Keranchi bakoz Afridi was not playing.

    Today he is playing and the stadium is nearly full.

    Crowd is chanting his name.

    Wonder if Ijaz Butt is watching?

  286. #286 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 4:42 PM

    Afridi and Shahzaib Hassan opening for Keranchi Dophins, Hassan hits a boundary first ball.

  287. #287 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 4:42 PM

    Hassan smashes the second ball for four.

  288. #288 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 4:44 PM

    There you go Afridi on strike, crowd chanting his name.

  289. #289 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 4:45 PM

    He looks to defend first ball.

  290. #290 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 4:49 PM

    AFRIDI SMASHES A SIX ON HIS SECOND BALL

    WHAT A SHOT

  291. #291 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 4:54 PM

    Afridi comes out of his crease and smashes the bowler towards extra cover.

  292. #292 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 4:55 PM

    Shahzaib Hassan is a good hitter, wonder why he doesn’t get more chances?

  293. #293 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 5:04 PM

    Misbah eyes top four Test spot for Pakistan

    KARACHI: Pakistan skipper Misbahul Haq on Thursday said he has targeted a top four Test spot for his side with an eye on qualification for the inaugural World Test Championship in 2013.

    The four top teams in the ICC (International Cricket Council) standings in mid-January 2013 will progress to the first World Test Championships scheduled to be played in England later that year.

    “We can come in the top four to feature in the Test championship and that’s one of the aims in our next three important series,” said Misbah, appointed captain for all three formats of the game last month.

    Misbah led Pakistan to a clean-sweep over Zimbabwe earlier this month, winning the one-off Test, all three one-days and both the Twenty20 internationals.

    His team now plays Sri Lanka over three Tests, five one-days and a Twenty20, in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) next month because of security fears in Pakistan.

    Pakistan currently lie sixth in the ICC Test rankings and need to win against fifth-placed Sri Lanka and their next two series – against world number one England and Bangladesh, who are ranked ninth.

    They tour Bangladesh in December for a two-Test series and play England in three Tests, four one-day and three Twenty20 in UAE in January-February next year.

    Misbah said the confidence gained on the Zimbabwe tour will help his team.

    We have done well in our two tough series before the Zimbabwe tour and did well against South Africa and New Zealand, so the confidence level is high and this morale will help us in future series,” said Misbah.

  294. #294 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 5:06 PM

    Potentially match winning innings from Afridi.

    29 from 16 balls.

  295. #295 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 5:16 PM

    Not just Afridi, everyone in our team is a match winner: Shahzaib Hassan, Karachi Dolphins

  296. #296 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 5:25 PM

    HUGE SIX BY AFRIDI.

    MIRZA IQBAL BAIG shouts, “BOOM BOOM AFRIDI!”

  297. #297 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 5:26 PM

    Afridi’s brilliant batting has turned this into a one sided contest: Mirza Iqbal Baig

  298. #298 by Namaloom Afraad on September 29, 2011 - 5:27 PM

    Afridi’s half century from 29 balls.

    Hits a 4 to bring it up.

    The stadium and biased commentators have gone crazy.

  299. #299 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 30, 2011 - 2:04 AM

    Thank you khansahab, please keep updating us with the domestic cricket and not just this one boom boom innings, I think he needs to be more consistent than playing just one boom boom innings and taking 3 wickets. His team needs to lift the cup to give a BIG THAPPAR ON IJAZ’S FACEBUTT.

  300. #300 by Namaloom Afraad on September 30, 2011 - 10:15 AM

    Uh, excuse me Misbah- Afridi did not retire because of he felt he might not have enough cricket left in him. He retired because of Waqar, Intikhab Alam and Ijaz Butt’s policies, one of which was to promote you within the ranks as captain replacing Afridi.

    Afridi should reconsider decision to retire: Misbah

    Karachi: Pakistan captain, Misbah-ul-Haq has advised flamboyant all-rounder, Shahid Afridi to reconsider his decision to retire from international cricket and believes he still has some years of cricket left in him.

    “Look, if you ask me, I think Afridi can still play for Pakistan as he still has some years of international cricket left in him. But what he wants to do is entirely his own decision,” Misbah told reporters at the national stadium on Thursday.

    “I can only advise him to rethink his retirement decision and decide once for all what he wants to do. But I would maintain he still can play international cricket,” the senior batsman said.

  301. #301 by Namaloom Afraad on September 30, 2011 - 10:20 AM

    Kapil blasts hype over Tendulkar’s 100th ton

    Mumbai: Former Indian skipper Kapil Dev yesteray criticised the media for giving too much importance to statistics and individual performances without taking into account its impact on the outcome of the match.

    “You are more keen about Sachin’s (Tendulkar) 99 hundreds and not about how we are going to win the next series. I am not saying don’t give credit to individual performance, but it should not be more than the country’s performance.

    “Everyone knows Sachin has 99 centuries. But how many know that how many of these matches have ended in victories? Everyone knows Sunil Gavaskar has scored 34 Test centuries? But can anyone tell how many matches he has saved for the team? Out of Sachin’s 99 hundreds, 60 have ended in victories. If anyone reports that I’ll be happy,” he said.

  302. #302 by Namaloom Afraad on September 30, 2011 - 10:21 AM

    60 match winning centuries out of 99 is not a bad record, especially for a player who has played with bowlers like Nehra, RP and Munaf for most of his career.

  303. #303 by Namaloom Afraad on September 30, 2011 - 10:24 AM

    Dermot Reeve- I wonder what his coaching qualifications are? He might have coached some county team, but he is not very renowned. Neither is Dean Jones.

    I don’t feel either of them are good choices.

    Dean Jones , Dermot Reeve in the shortlisted candidates

    Former Australian batsman Dean Jones and former England all-rounder Dermot Reeve are said to be in the list of five candidates, short listed by the Pakistan Cricket Board for the job of chief coach.
    Former Pakistan captain Intikhab Alam refused to divulge the names of the short listed candidates but sources in the Jones and Reeve were on the list.

  304. #304 by tom on September 30, 2011 - 10:58 AM

    Reeve or Jones might get the nod- they dont have much coaching credentials but Pakistan has a tendency of appointing low profile foreign coaches like Lawson, Richard Pybus etc.

    Afridi gave a sterling performance and perhaps that was something missing in WC- his performance with the bat. Pakistan’s success in shorter versions depends a lot on afridi’s contributions with both bat and ball. Dont worry Misbah darling, he will eventually come back.

    Khansahab 60 out of 99 is a good ratio but it would help matters if it was mentioned as to how many match winning innings he played in test cricket. When his match winning ability is questioned, it is primarily in context of test cricket.

  305. #305 by Namaloom Afraad on September 30, 2011 - 11:28 AM

    Tom

    I think that’s a good point about Test cricket and SRT- I’ve not done the research on that specific point.

    Afridi did not need to do anything more in the WC, he almost won it single handedly for Pakistan. What was really missing from the WC was the intention to win from Misbah and Younis Khan.

  306. #306 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 30, 2011 - 2:10 PM

    Hello Khansahab

    I think you are misunderstanding Kapil’s sarcasm here is not saying Tenduklar’s 60 out of 99 are match winnings. He is saying watch them out and see how they ended. I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO READ THAT KAPIL’S COMMENT AGAIN.

  307. #307 by tom on September 30, 2011 - 3:16 PM

    Khansahab

    Is kapil being complentary or sarcastic?

    I just remebered that there is a saying amongst cricketers that when Tendulkar gets a 100, India loses.

    Upon rereading, Iam getting a little perplexed.

  308. #308 by Namaloom Afraad on September 30, 2011 - 5:54 PM

    Tom

    It is not clear exactly what he is trying to say but it definitely makes more sense that 60% of a person’s centuries would result in victories.

    SRT’s average is higher in wins than draws or losses, something which Lara and Sehwag do not have to their credit.

  309. #309 by tom on September 30, 2011 - 6:16 PM

    Khansahab

    I did some research and found the following stuff

    out of Tendulkar’s 99 centuries, 56 have resulted in victories. 23 in tests out of 48 and 33in ODIs out of 51.

    Inzimam and ponting have a better ratio than tendulkar in tests while Ganguly, Sehwag and few other batsmen have better ratio in ODIs.

    I think Kapil wanted to say that Tendulkar has 60 odd 100’s in matches where india won. it is more important to talk about team victories than individual feats.

    It makes sense as Indians are more concerned about Tendulkar’s profile rather than team performance in wake of shoaib’s allegations.

    You can find his whole statement here

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/30/kapil-dev-blasts-indias-obsession-with-tendulkar.html

  310. #310 by tom on September 30, 2011 - 6:22 PM

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/30/president-discusses-flood-relief-campaign-with-shoaib-sania.html

    Khansahab

    you mentioned Zardari’s assets in this blog. This scum if only devotes 10% of what you say, it would eradicate all poverty related problems.

    As far as the tennis player and Caddy are concerned, the caddy should stick to carrying her shopping bags in dubai instead of playing exhibition stuff to increase her popularity.

  311. #311 by JAVED A. KHAN on September 30, 2011 - 8:55 PM

    I am glad that Kapal’s SIR KAZEM has been understood.

    No one in the right frame of find would be praising Tendulkar’s current batting form where he is stuck in a rats hole.

    The only reason Sania gets attention is because she is an INDIAN and a reasonable tennis player but, mostly it is the Indian celebrity status that gives her access to Zardari’s Hammam.

  312. #312 by tom on September 30, 2011 - 9:23 PM

    Shoaib is not the only one who claims Tendulkar was scared.

    http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/sep2011-daily/30-09-2011/u83297.htm

  313. #313 by Namaloom Afraad on September 30, 2011 - 11:26 PM

    Why do the Karachi commentators say “PLATEform” instead of “platform”?

    And why do people of Karachi say “Keranchi” instead of “Karachi”?

  314. #314 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 1, 2011 - 4:29 AM

    khanashab

    They also say PEEETROLE PUMP
    And, BeeRig fro Bridge

    And, there is one guy who constantly says, SARGAKIS for psychiatrist, when I heard it for the first time, I thought it was the name of a guy, because Greek Guys have this name Sargakis but, when said, Sargakis say rapat likhai uss nay kaha wo pooray hosh mai hai………. then I understood it is psychiatrist ! Also, why do people from Punjab say ghaaNs for Ghass and HuNsna instead of Hussna. They also say SacherDay for Saturday.

    On Afridi joining Akhtar, I was so dead sure he will speak and he did. Its a fact that Afridi pushed his case for Akhtar for the WC but the match against NZ, Akmal destroyed everything and it was enough for Inti and Waqqa to put their foot down. That is why he resigned halfway during the tour. Obviously he was angry because of the way they treated him, especially Waqar.

  315. #315 by Namaloom Afraad on October 1, 2011 - 2:04 PM

    I saw Sachin shiver against Shoaib: Afridi

    Karachi, Oct 1: Shahid Afridi himself has not been spared by Shoaib Akhtar in his book and interviews, former Pakistan captain Shahid Afridi supported the fastest bowler’s claims that Sachin Tendulkar was scared of his shoaib’s pace, saying he was a witness to the master blaster shiver at the sight of Shoaib’s attack.

    In his book “Controversially Yours”, Shoaib wrote that Tendulkar was scared of his bowling, a comment that has caused furore across the border, forcing publishers to cancel all launch-related and publicity events.

    Asked about Shoaib’s claims, Afridi said: “Shoaib is telling the truth. Tendulkar was afraid of him, and while fielding, I saw Tendulkar’s legs trembling while facing his bowling.”

    However, the all-rounder added that it was not an unusual feature of a batsman.

    “There are times when every batsman feels the pressure, it happens against Saeed Ajmal even.”

    The former captain, however, was critical of Akhtar’s comments that he was responsible for the fast bowler’s omission from the World Cup semifinal against India, according to media reports.

    “Shoaib should remember that I apologised to the chairman and manager on his behalf and got him back into the national squad. While he hasn’t lied about other things, he won’t be able to look me in the eyes after he’s said all that,” Afridi said.

  316. #316 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 1, 2011 - 2:04 PM

    Mumtaz Quadri the assassin of Salman Tasr has been sentenced to death. I am glad that now a days these decisions are taken fast in Pakistan. He should be put to rest before he public make a hue and cry over this killer, already some people are saying, if you kill one MUmtaz Qureshi, thousand will born,. This is aLL BS. 2-4 ko maro sab seedhay ho jaatay.

    The Karachi Rangers got their punishment in short time, that is good too.

    The lynching of the two sialkoti boys culprits got death row and several yeas of jail for others. BUT THE Policemen get away with a slap on their wrist. 3 yeas only for watching a death crime and letting people kill them? They should have got 30 yeas.

  317. #317 by Namaloom Afraad on October 1, 2011 - 2:04 PM

    Afridi to decide on comeback after a month

    Karachi: Former Pakistan captain Shahid Afridi, who announced his retirement from international cricket soon after the World Cup to protest against the working of the Pakistan Cricket Board, says he will decide on his comeback after a month.

    “There is a lot of pressure from fans and friends to come out of retirement, but I will wait for things to improve. I will take at least a month to reconsider my decision.”

  318. #318 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 1, 2011 - 2:09 PM

    Afridi’s side dump Isb Leopards but Umar Gul’s Pantherside dumped Afridi’s Dolphin and it is hoped that Panthers will go to the semis for the first time. Does it mean Afridi’s hopes have dashed?

  319. #319 by Namaloom Afraad on October 1, 2011 - 3:22 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I saw some clips of that match and the Dolphins were pathetic. Afridi himself played pathetically. I was pleased to see the underdogs Peshawar play so well and Umar Gul’s captaincy was magnificent.

    The final is likely to be between Rawalpindi and Sialkot which were the strongest teams anyway. Lahore was the 3rd strongest team. Karachi is always about more hype than substance and they always rely on Afridi to win them matches.

  320. #320 by Namaloom Afraad on October 1, 2011 - 4:10 PM

    Afridi’s outburst against Tendulkar out of frustration:Wadekar

    Mumbai: Former India captain Ajit Wadekar on Saturday, dismissed claims of former Pakistan captain Shahid Afridi that batting maestro Sachin Tendulkar was trembling while facing fast bowler and compatriot Shoaib Akhtar as a remark ‘borne out of frustration’.

    Controversy-prone Afridi has backed his ex-teammate Akhtar’s claim in his autobiography “Controversially Yours” that Tendulkar was uncomfortable against his pace, saying he (Afridi) had once witnessed the Indian batsman “trembling” while facing the pacer.

    “He (Tendulkar) was scared of Shoaib. I have seen it myself. I was fielding at square leg and saw his legs trembling when Shoaib came on to bowl,” Afridi told reporters in Karachi today without elaborating as to which match he was referring to.

    “I think it is all a result of frustration. He’s talking about someone who has scored 99 international hundreds and has got runs all over the world,” Wadekar told PTI while reacting to Afridi’s comments in Pakistan.

    “The Indian board is doing well, the Indian team is doing very well barring one series (in England). As a country we are doing very well economically. On the other hand they (Pakistan players) can’t play much (because of refusal of other countries to tour),” Wadekar said.

    Asked whether Tendulkar should react to Afridi’s comments, and the tall claims made by his one-time teammate Akhtar in his book, Wadekar said “Why should he? Who are these two in front of Tendulkar? They were not in good terms with their own board (PCB)”.

    “Thank god Don Bradman is not around playing now or even his credentials would have been questioned to get cheap publicity,” he remarked with a laugh.

  321. #321 by tom on October 1, 2011 - 4:34 PM

    Sorry Mr Wadekar, but no one has ever accused Viv Richards of chickening out. It seems that any criticism of Tendulkar is totally unacceptable, and only praise is to be sung as if one is talking of a divine entity. Pakistan did screw up the England tour but at least it wasnt a white wash and they were not ranked no 1. Mr Wadekar what you are saying was criticised yesterday by Kapil Dev that team is greater than individual greatness.

  322. #322 by tom on October 1, 2011 - 4:38 PM

    Afridi is still day dreaming. Didnt he approach Zardari but got Snubbed. Now again he says that he’ll ponder over the retirement issue as if he can make it into the playing eleven at his own discretion. He also didnt do well in T20 tournament and his batting is still not the same ( as pointed out previously). Anyway, keep hoping; maybe youll get lucky.

  323. #323 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 1, 2011 - 7:14 PM

    Like Lata Maanje Kar, Ajit Wadekar. Padekar, laudekar ab ye sab bolenge, even those whose feet are dangling in their graves wo bhee bolenge kion kay wo bhagwan hain unki paristish kerni heee perti hai wana bakhsay nahee jayenge, chutiyum sulphates hain saaray!

    That Shyam Bhosrikar or whoever he is, he wrote that Mr. Shoaib I will not buy your book. What difference does it make even if the whole of India doesn’t buy it? Akhtar’s aim was achieved no other book got so much publicity as this and sooner or later they will buy his book.

    Afridi is a real ch2so4 to day dream about coming back on just one innings of 58 in 29 balls and taking 3 wickets, he should have won all the matches like this to get BUTTATTENTUN orther wise it is for him its a minipad.

  324. #324 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 1, 2011 - 7:22 PM

    Ijaz Butt on Afidi and Sania’s latest compaison:

    O jee theek hai 58 runs banaya tay naal 3 V-cut we lee, laikin
    Saadi Saania we 82 runna banayee tay naal 2 V-Vuct we litttay!

    Bat ManTay O Changa Oyega na jo CHOLWEES runzain ziyada banaya!
    Waikh lo tay tuski khud decide kerr lo meray naal poooch nay di zaroorat E koi nai paigEe

  325. #325 by tom on October 1, 2011 - 8:33 PM

    Will they be given same media response as ” Tennis player and caddy”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8800756/Liz-Hurley-accepts-Shane-Warne-marriage-proposal.html

  326. #326 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 2, 2011 - 12:03 AM

    By Mistake Liz Hurley was born in Hampshire England. Otherwise she was destined to born in Heera Mandi because, she is that kinda Gashtee. She was hooked on to Huhg Grant, then with Kim Johnson and then with that Indian guy Nair and now with this SAME WORM. Whose orgies call still be viewed on the Internet, he is the same guy who took drugs and tried to mask it by saying it my Grand mother’s recipe. He thinks everyone else is Ch2-So4 jab kay sala khud hai BM (Bhosr…..m Bromide)

  327. #327 by tom on October 2, 2011 - 12:24 PM

    Umer gul not surprised at Shoaib’s comments about tendulkar.

    Gul also responded to comments in Akhtar’s autobiography about Sachin Tendulkar being afraid of the former Pakistan fast bowler. “I can’t say specifically that I saw Tendulkar running away from Shoaib, but no one can deny that when Shoaib was at his fastest and best the world’s best batsmen were nervous against him and there is no batsmen who is not nervous or ruffled when facing a pure fast bowler,” Gul said. “Even Brian Lara, who I rate as the world’s best batsman, admitted to feeling ruffled when he was hit on the helmet by a bouncer from Shoaib.”

    CRICINFO

  328. #328 by tom on October 2, 2011 - 12:27 PM

  329. #329 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 2, 2011 - 1:36 PM

    The BOUNCER which Gul is referring to against Lara being hit by Akhtar on his helmet. Actually I saw that live, it was just below the helmet, like hardly touching the helmet edge but there was more blunt force on his neck and ear and the way Lara fell on the ground was very instant (“jaisay Chatt say Chipkalee girti hai) flat on his stomach and Akhtar was the first who came running down after his follow through to inquire if he was OK? And, apologized instantly. Lara had to leave the ground. By then he had already laid the foundation for winning that match, I guess?

    Under Inzamam’s captaincy, the Mohali Test was drawn by Abdul Razzaq and Khatmal, India won the second one at Kolkata but, the third one @ Bangalore was won by Pakistan with a huge margin Younus’s double, Inzamam’s 180 plus on his 100th test and Afridi’s blistering 57 in 28 balls in the second innings, followed by three prized wickets of Tendulkar, Ganguly and Dravid. Ganguly’s wicket was the best he was bowled behind the wickets and he thought khatmal is claiming an LBW appeal and was showing the umpire his leg is inside the line! The umpire gave him out and the second time Ganguly insisted that his foot was inside! Then, one of the commentators said, Ganguly must go back to the dressing room and watch the replay.

    Anyways, my point was about fast bowling. In that same match, Laxman was hit by Mohammad Sami on his face and the ball crashed through his grill and landed on his left eye, it was a huge black eye. Laxman had to go back but, Indian wickets were falling and finally he came back to play. He scored 20 odd more runs before getting out, Sami did not realize that Laxman couldn’t see from his left eye and he continued bowling from over the wicket, had he bowled around the wicket, it would have made Laxman’s life a lot more difficult, this kinda smart thinking comes by experience, Sami was only concerned on bowling at 150 kmph and that is it. Had he changed from over the wicket to around the wicket, Laxman’s vision would have been almost zero

    Ps.

    It was in Mohali Test Tendulkar went on t make 91 runs whereas, Younus Khan dropped a sitter in the slips when he was on 8 only, and was laughing, everyone who were watching that match wanted to kill Younus Khan, and in batting he was also out on a duck and smiling. It was that duck that changed his luck, because in the next two matches he scored a century and a double century.

  330. #330 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 2, 2011 - 1:42 PM

    Mujhay pata thaa jab yae 88 score kiya he will talk big and he has opened his big mouth. He is not talking about his performance against Zimbabwe recently. Because there is nothing to be talked about but feel ashamed. How quick people forget their recent past in his case just one knock of 88 n.o. and he is talking big. Had he not married Sania Mirza he would have gone into oblivion by now. Ch2yum Malik sala.

    It is Malik, Misbah, Kami Khatmal and Salman Butt who have ruined the team. Butt is the gang leader he ruined the career of Asif and Aamir too. What a shame and what a waste of talent.

  331. #331 by tom on October 2, 2011 - 8:18 PM

    Umar Akmal gets axed from test Squad. This is called Poetic Justice. You and your dracula brother sabotaged the team interest and now you can sit and watch the proceedings on TV. The Caddy gets selected and must be on another planet after winning the T20 cup.

  332. #332 by Namaloom Afraad on October 2, 2011 - 10:35 PM

    Tom

    I don’t think U Akmal’s absence will benefit Pakistan in any way because Shoaib Malik is mediocre. U Akmal and Malik may both score 30 runs, but U Akmal will score them quickly. Shafiq also tends to score 30 odd. They are just liabilities.

    Another squad with a handful of parchees- Misbah, Farhat, Taufeeq, A Akmal, Malik- in fact a large number of parchees.

    I just hope we don’t see boring draws with Misbah and Malik (who will be favoured over Shafiq) playing their usual game. Misbah will just break all records for draws and this might catapult him to be one of Pakistan’s most successful captains because of the lack of losses!

  333. #333 by Namaloom Afraad on October 2, 2011 - 10:49 PM

    The media has had a lot of fun with Shoaib Akhtar’s controversial remarks about Tendulkar. Umar Gul commented that he would not be surprised if SRT was scared because all batsmen were scared of Akhtar at his peak. Afridi clarified his stance that he was mentioning one occasion when SRT was scared but is not doubting SRT’s greatness.

    I think the pathetic media needs to read Akhtar’s book and then ask people for their opinions. It all depends on how Akhtar has mentioned SRT in his book. Like I have said before, saying that “SRT is scared” and saying, “SRT was scared on one occasion/two occasions” are two very different things.

    What a travesty this is that the mediamen would rather have their fun, sell their articles and create hostilities between people instead of reading the actual wording of the book and then seeking people’s opinions.

  334. #334 by tom on October 3, 2011 - 8:18 AM

    Khansahab

    Iam glad over Umar akmal’s exclusion because a Khalifa is gone. A bigger Khalifa is still in the team and I hope the termite will also get dumped eventually.

    I would humbly diagree with you on Media’s role in the Shoaib fiasco. Media did what it always does- act like a Bee Jamalo . It had become common knowledge that Shoaib referred to a particular occasion and he didnt say that Tendulkar was always scared. But the crux of the matter is that Tendulkar is treated like a deity and he could do no wrong- one never accepts criticism of an entity who is given divine status no matter how minute it is. Hence we see people like Lata and that scum mohan defending tendulkar and attacking Shoaib. Its the psyche of the Indian public that resulted in this outpour and venting of frustration on poor donkeys. If you read wadekar’s comments he compares Indian economy with Pakistan’s economy, so was that the issue. The point is Tendulkar to the Indians is greater than cricket and no criticism is acceptable whether valid or nonsense. The voice of sanity came from Kapli when he asked to focus on team rather than individual records. Was there any outrage to this degree on India’s drubbing in england ? No . This has given fodder to cricketers for their biographies- attack Sachin and increase sales

  335. #335 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 11:06 AM

    Tom

    Whether this increases sales for Akhtar’s book remains to be seen. Indians are very proud and nationalistic people and they will certainly not encourage people to buy Akhtar’s book.

    The question the Indian media has put forward to people like Wadekar, Sidhu, Harbhajan etc is how they would react to Akhtar’s claim that SRT was (generally) scared of him- the question is clearly not how they would react to Akhtar’s claim that SRT was scared on one or two occasions.

    If the media is portraying such an image of his book without actually resorting to the actual words stated in that book, no wonder people are eliciting extreme reactions.

    If SRT is such a deity in India, as you have claimed, then why would people buy a book which is “blasphemous”? If someone attacks your religion in their book, would you be keen to buy the book (which would profit the author one way or the other)?

    I haven’t met a single Muslim who has read The Satanic Verses.

  336. #336 by tom on October 3, 2011 - 11:40 AM

    Khansahab

    The public definitely knows that Akhtar was referring to one particular incident- it was reported but to them it is unacceptable that Tendulkar should get scared by any bowler. His deity status was even acknowledged by you on this blog in your previous comments so thats not worth debating. For arguments sake, even if some bowler claims that a batsman was scared of him all the time so should that be a reason for such intense reaction. Would you think Britishers would react like that if KP was claimed to be scared of Steyn- thats nonsense.

  337. #337 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 3, 2011 - 12:34 PM

    khansahab

    you may not have met a single Muslim who has read The Satanic Verses, but I have come across so many who told me that they have read it and they wanted to know what he wrote? He used some real derogatory remarks about the Angels as well as about the Prophet, but what a pathetic life he is having? Always under fear and watching over his shoulder for the last 2 decades. Akhtar’s case is different because, no one can threat him like that and not only Tendulkar but the Indians must learn to take criticism on Tendulkar, when he fails only they want to criticize him and when he performs they want the whole world to worship him like them. They gave him this deity status but, he is not one of the Gods of Hindu religion he is ONLY enjoying the status of a deity. Because, the Hindu religion is such that they have so many Gods and deities and they gave him the status only because of his game and even they booed him on his own home ground Mumbai when he was constantly failing. But, they cannot take criticism coming from a Pakistani. Although Tendulkar is in the same situation now as he was a few years ago when they booed him and asked him to retire. They want him to ONLY to perform and not fail. And, he is to be blamed for not focusing on his game and only looking up to scoring that odd hundred that he wants to pin it as a feather in his cap and the Indians wants to carry him on their shoulders, otherwise they are getting very disappointed.

    I have read the news i.e., after the 2011 WC even though India won the Cup, but one guy committed suicide because Tendulkar did not score that century that he was expected to score. They may call that man a lunatic but, he gave up his life because he felt ashamed.

    Anyways, there is so much hoopla about the book and it will remain not only a controversial book but, one of the most famous one, no one knows or will ever remember Imran Khan’s 4 or 5 books that he wrote, but everyone will remember Akhtar’s controversially yours, those who have read it and those who have not.

  338. #338 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 4:35 PM

    We haven’t tampered with the ball – Cook

    ESPN Cricinfo

    England’s one-day captain Alastair Cook has rubbished claims by Pakistan fast bowler Umar Gul that James Anderson and Stuart Broad were involved in ball tampering. Cook said if Gul did have any concerns he should have gone through the proper channels.

    Gul hit the headlines after giving an interview in Karachi, where he suggested he had seen examples of ball tampering and mentioned seeing Anderson and Broad using various techniques. However, he later tried to step back from controversy by saying he was only talking about the England pair in relation to natural wear that develops on a ball by throwing it across the outfield.

    “We certainly haven’t tampered with the ball and if he did have any complaints he should have gone to the ICC over that,” Cook said at Heathrow airport ahead of England’s departure for their one-day series in India. “I think he has almost said himself that it has been a bit of a mountain out of a molehill.”

  339. #339 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 4:37 PM

    I have Sachin Tendulkar’s photo on my wall: Shahid Afridi

    By CricketCountry Staff

    New Delhi: Oct 3, 2011

    Former Pakistan cricketer Shahid Afridi, who made unsavoury comments against Indian cricket star Sachin Tendulkar, says he is a huge fan of the Indian batting legend and even has a signed picture of Tendulkar hanging in his drawing room wall.

    “I am a huge fan of Sachin. He is not only a great cricketer but a humble human being as well. I have only one photograph on the wall of my drawing room and that is of Sachin. It has Sachin’s autograph on it, do I need to say more,” said Afridi.

    Afridi had stirred another controversy by claiming that he saw Tendulkar legs trembling while facing Shoaib Akhtar. Later on, he clarified by saying that he did not intend to question Tendulkar’s greatness and was only referring to one incident.

  340. #340 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 4:39 PM

    Mohsin Khan appointed Pakistan coach

    Pakistan’s chief selector Mohsin Khan has been appointed as the interim coach of the national team for the upcoming series against Sri Lanka in the UAE.

    According to reports, the decision to appoint Khan as coach has been taken to provide more time to the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) in appointing a full time coach.

    “Mohsin Hasan Khan will be coach for Pakistan against Sri Lanka series only. PCB is in the process of appointing a full time coach,” PCB said in a statement.

  341. #341 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 4:46 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Some time ago I wrote on this blog that although I have not read The Satanic Verses word for word, I have glanced over some interpretations of the book and it is nowhere as derogatory as people generally make it out to be. You may have read actual passages of the book and may be more well versed with it than me- however my understanding was that a mountain had been made of a molehill. Of course, the book was not great enough to warrant the global acclaim it received and it was only the overreaction of Muslims that made the book “great”.

    Well, it is debatable whether Rushdie is living a pathetic life. He has a knack of attracting younger women around him and he also recently received knighthood 😉

  342. #342 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 4:52 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I am pretty sure the Indian overreaction is due to the question which is being put to them by the media which is,

    “How do you react to Akhtar’s claim that SRT was scared of him”?

    I have already mentioned to Tom that if the question was,

    “How do you react to Akhtar’s claim that SRT was scared of him on one or two occasions”?

    ……..the reaction would not have been so hostile.

    The first question can justifiably be construed as “nonsense” coming from a biased Pakistani, but the second question cannot because, it is likely that SRT was scared of Akhtar on at least a few occasions and SRT has clearly shown throughout his career that he is not perfect (no one is).

    The error is with the question the media is trying to portray to these celebrities because the media will not sell its product so well if it asks the second question I have mentioned above.

  343. #343 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 4:56 PM

    Tom,

    There is a definitely a flaw with your mention of KP and Steyn because whereas KP is very talented, he cannot be compared with SRT and Steyn is a better bowler than Akhtar ever was.

    Steyn does not lose 2 matches for SA for every 1 match that he may win for them.

    KP is a pretty fearless batsmen and I doubt if he was ever scared of Steyn.

  344. #344 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 5:32 PM

    Pretty good compilation of worst dismissals in cricket. Feel bad saying this but Inzamam’s will put a grin on your face. I think what Kapil Dev did there was quite unsportsman-like:

  345. #345 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 3, 2011 - 6:59 PM

    We haven’t tampered with the ball – Cook

    BUT WE HAVE SEEN WITH OUR OWN EYES ON TV THAT, STUART THE BROAD WAS SCRATCHING THE BALL WITH THE SPIKES OF HIS BOOTS.

    Cookoo , the world is NOT blind and neither they are Cougoo like you to give such Ch2 statements (only Ijaz Butt has the birth right to speak like that).

  346. #346 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 3, 2011 - 7:03 PM

    khansahab

    Rushdie called the Angels as CHAMCHA is it not derogatory? You think only Maa Bahen Ki Gaalis are derogatory? I mean what more do you want to hear from him when Muslims use the prefix of Hazrath and suffix of Alai Salam when mentioning the names of the Angels.

    Ps

    As regards attracting younger women especially from the West, it is not so difficult if you are rich or famous. That Deepak Chopra Ch2ya is more famous and more popular among younger women than Rushdie is. Also, that MahaRish Rajnish fooled the masses and amassed billions of dollars and used to own a fleet of 200 Rolls Royce cars and hundreds of young women wanted to have sex with him, so bloody what? It shows the lack of education and the character of these women. They want to become famous by clinging on to some stupid A hole.

  347. #347 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 3, 2011 - 7:26 PM

    khansahab,

    The comparison of KP vs. Styen is a theoretical one, starting with a big “IF” so its not a matter of flaw.

    Also, I agree with you that KP is a very daring and aggressive batsman and he intimidates the bowlers.

    Like, almost ALL bowlers are scared of Afridi because, you never know when he will attack and from which side?

    After the Kanpur Massacre, even Kumble said, what can you do with a crazy guy like Afridi, you bowl him a short of length ball and, he jumps out of his crease and hits you over the head for a six, you bowl him on the legside he hits you over square leg or deep fine leg, you bowl him outside the off and he cuts it for a six over the point. One other Indian bowler said, “Afridi ko na apni izzat ki parwa hai nay doosraon ki, when he is on a song he tears the opponent apart and when he get out on a duck, he walks back without regretting much.”

  348. #348 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 7:49 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Bowlers are scared of Afridi even now because there is no set way to dismiss him- he gets out because of his own stupidity but otherwise his batting has no weakness.

    Tom was asking me how the British would feel about KP and Steyn and even if it was a hypothetical question it is difficult to answer because KP has not achieved as much as SRT and the British don’t idolise him or any cricketer in fact. Plus comparing Steyn with Akhtar leaves a bad taste in the mouth because Akhtar is nothing compared to Steyn or Brett Lee. They have won many more matches for their countries and they have represented their countries with more dignity and pride.

    I remember Sagaat used to criticise Lee quite often but Lee is a more valuable player than Akhtar.

  349. #349 by tom on October 3, 2011 - 8:32 PM

    Khansahab

    The British are more patient than the Indians. They dont resort to knee jerk reactions and they treat players as players. Even if they do idolise them, they dont take criticism so negatively and vent it on donkeys thats why I cited them as an example. Three people on this blog instantly knew that Shoaib referred to a particular incident yet you think that the Indians are still in the dark. In today’s world with unlimited access to TV and internet, nothing gets hidden.

    Actually you are concentrating on the accuser ie Shoaib Akhtar , his profile, character history and using that as a base to question the credibility of the allegations. The Indians are mainly interested in the charges, they are not concerned about the accuser although it does rub salt into the wounds since he is pakistani.They wont accept such stuff about Tendulkar even if it was from a saint who never lied. Iam mainly concerned about the reaction. Infact if you go through the comments ,initially even I was sceptical about the charges but this ORGASMIC REACTION is totally uncalled for. You might consider my hypothetical example as flawed but its a simple case of bowler vs batsman, be it Lara vs Mcgrath, Bond vs Waugh, Ambrose vs Kallis etc. Both make claims and the game moves on. There is no doubt that shoaib is a cheapster but this reaction reflects a defeatist mindset. I dont know whether you remember but in 1996 WC india were losing semi final against Sri lanka. Crowd resorted to arson and stone pelting, match got abandoned and Sri lanka was awarded victory- a simple case of poor sportsmanship.

    See you dont rate Shoaib so highly and as such you think there is not much substance in these charges and dismiss them. thats ok as a response but do you approve of this indian reaction? At least not me.

  350. #350 by tom on October 3, 2011 - 8:42 PM

    Khansahab

    Regarding Satanic verses, its a satirical book making fun of holy personalities. There are other books about Islam which are more inflammatory than this but they didnt get the same publicity. The western world makes a lot of fun about their religion and relishes such stuff so there are people in this world, even in the sub continent who dont mind such stuff. In my opinion, freedom of speech doesnt mean one should make fun of religion. since the west is comfortable with bashing of religion, it wants Eastern specially Muslim societies to become insensitive to such things.

  351. #351 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 8:45 PM

    Tom

    If you had been reading this blog since its inception you would not have made this comment because not only have I in earlier comments criticised the narrow mindedness of the general Indian public (on that occasion I actually compared them with the British and stated that British people are more dispassionate and tolerant), I have also criticised the extreme reaction from Shiv Sena, Lata Mangeshkar and the general Indian public.

    You can read the newspaper articles I have posted from various sources and you will realise that the question being put to the hostile Indians is NOT relevant to a particular incident, but SRT being scared of Akhtar generally. That is the problem. Akhtar has made contradicting claims because earlier he said SRT is not a match winner and was scared of him but later he said that if one reads his book they will realise that he is referring to one incident. How can you be so sure he is referring to one incident when you haven’t read the actual book?

    I have indicated clearly now that the reaction is over the top IF Akhtar has been referring to that one incident or two incidents. Even if Akhtar was referring to SRT generally the reaction would be unfounded, but one would have less sympathy with Akhtar.

    Not only have I criticised Kapil Dev’s sportsmanship in one of my earlier posts today, I have also made reference to this match vs Sri Lanka in the past which you are pinpointing where the reaction from the Indians was barbaric.

    I don’t approve of the Indian reaction in any event but I would certainly have no sympathy with Akhtar if he is claiming that SRT was generally scared of him. The way Akhtar has tried to contradict himself and come clean on this position indicates that he is not being genuine (I have seen his TV interviews and read almost all of the newspaper articles on this particular SRT issue).

  352. #352 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 8:52 PM

    For someone who takes a lot of pride in saying that Dravid is not a match winner, that quite possibly SRT was scared of him, and for someone who did not mention any Indians (but mentioned Ponting and Gilchrist) when mentioning the batsmen who were most difficult to get out…………..

    Interestingly I have checked the stats and in Test cricket, Akhtar has the worst record against India out of all the teams. His bowling average and strike rate are actually better against Australia than India. On Pakspin I used to comment that Akhtar should not be played against India because he is a match loser against them.

    In ODI’s Akhtar has the 2nd worst record against India when considering all the Test playing nations (he has the worst record vs Australia).

    So, is there some genuineness on Akhtar’s part or are his claims about Indian batsmen motivated by controversy? Or is he just biased?

  353. #353 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 8:53 PM

    Tom

    Have you read The Satanic Verses?

  354. #354 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 8:57 PM

    Tom

    I know that the West is dispassionate about religion generally.

    I am not supporting Rushdie and I also don’t believe he should have written something that could have upset so many people around the world, but I don’t think this taught Muslims the lesson that they should deal with such issues with a cool head and practicality.

  355. #355 by tom on October 3, 2011 - 9:04 PM

    Khansahab

    I have no sympathies with Shoaib neither Iam certain about the veracity of these charges. Iam not interested in his book not because he questions tendulkar’s ability ( just like that idiot Mohan) but I agree that he has done a lot of damage to cricket. You say reaction is intense; same what I say, although I feel It has to do with questioning of tendulkar’s ability rather than shoaib’s somersault. You feel that there would have been not the same reaction if shoaib didnt manipulate the facts. Ummm.. Iam not so sure.

    Secondly, questions about tendulkar’s match winning record are not new. I mentioned that Inzy and ponting have a higher winning ratio than him.

    Anyway, Cricket doesnt start or stop with Tendulkar. He is definitely one of the greatest players in the game but he is not the only one.

  356. #356 by tom on October 3, 2011 - 9:07 PM

    Khansahab

    Comment 352 should be sent to Indian media.. May be it will have a tranquilizing effect

  357. #357 by tom on October 3, 2011 - 9:09 PM

    Khansahab

    No sir, I havent and i dont intend to read it. Well Muslims should protest but not violently ( I mean damaging property) and should concentrate on progress and education.

  358. #358 by tom on October 3, 2011 - 9:11 PM

    Indians should realise this iconic cricketer plus dravid, laxman will retire in 2 years. they need to blood in new players else it would be difficult for them to be amongst thwe top teams.

  359. #359 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 9:14 PM

    Tom,

    I agree with much of what you are saying and I don’t think we are disagreeing on many points.

    If Akhtar had said something like “SRT is not a match winner” (but had not mentioned anything about SRT being scared) then surely I would have concentrated more on the Indian reaction.

    When Tendulkar scored 80 odd vs Pakistan in the WC 2011 semi final, I was the only one on this blog who did not say, “You don’t drop a player like SRT 4 times”. That is because that was the most pathetic knock I have seen from SRT and Pakistan made him look like a club level cricketer. I also commented later that SRT should not have received the MOM award in the match. So, it is wrong for someone to believe that I have an agenda to support SRT.

    If you think that Tendulkar’s calibre here is less important than the harsh reaction of the Indian public, then you should also focus on the personality and credibility of Akhtar as a person. In other words, I see Akhtar’s character, Tendulkar’s ability, and the Indian public reaction as different facets of the same argument.

    I don’t think this issue can be analysed properly and fairly if you want to dissociate Tendulkar’s calibre and Akhtar’s character but just want to focus on the Indian reaction- simply because all the three facets are strongly linked.

  360. #360 by tom on October 3, 2011 - 9:17 PM

    Khansahab

    There is more lethal stuff on the internet about religion and Islam. My knowledge about Satanic vwersers is mainly based on reviews and articles in magazines but some of the stuff ive seen on internet is much lethal than Satanic verses. I approached my friend who is a religuous scholar but somehow i feel Ulema these days dont know much about Islam bashing on the internet. (Ironic)

  361. #361 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 9:21 PM

    Tom

    Without knowing what specific content you are referring to, I can imagine what kind of lethal stuff it might be.

    If Muslims were more educated then there would be no anti Muslim propaganda.

    The West has such a high proportion of Muslim doctors but most of them only sought this degree for money and status, not for the reason why a person should get a degree- which is to broaden one’s mind and refine one’s thought. And when I say “status” I strictly mean status as contemplated by Asians and Arabs- that being a “daaktar” means one has fulfilled the purpose of life.

  362. #362 by tom on October 3, 2011 - 9:28 PM

    Khansahab

    i think my views about Akhtar are quite clear- he was his own worst enemy and damaged pakistan cricket. Tendulkar’s calibre is world class although just like every player he has a few shortcomings. But Indians must learn to react in a civilized way; they shifted the focus from Shoaib’s character to their behaviour.

    I pose a question to you; something which struck me during this whole episode.

    When tendulkar will retire ( which eventually he will), how demoralised the Indian public will be. What interest they will find in cricket. Wont it be cruel to the players who will be playing at that moment. all the talk will be tendulkar and his greatness etc. You know every sun sets one day, we look to the new sun and I think the story of tendulkar is reaching its climax- Indians must look ahead and forget about this 100th 100.

  363. #363 by tom on October 3, 2011 - 9:32 PM

    Khansahab

    Muslims lost the script somewhere around 13-14 th century. it is still lost and now there seems to be no concerted effort towards progress- only individual focus.

  364. #364 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 9:36 PM

    Tom

    I agree- and I did say that SRT should have retired after the England series. But, as SRT’s centuries matter more to Indians than team performance, SRT will probably stick around for a while.

    Look, his greatness is not so much about physical records or number of centuries- it is about the respect he has achieved and positive image of India he has projected around the world. And there is no question he is a genius batsman and has had immense influence on cricket.

    I find it amazing that educated people like some of India’s cricketers, movie stars etc react in such a manner but their nationalism is what has made them the emerging economic power they are today.

    In other words, it is this crazy passionate nationalism that is the source of their success and also the source of the uncivilised reaction.

  365. #365 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 9:38 PM

    What I mean is that, using the word “uncivilised” is indicative of lack of education, but in the case of Indian media, celebrities (not so much the public), people are generally educated.

    So it must be this obsessive passionate nationalism that makes them react unreasonably.

  366. #366 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 9:40 PM

    Tom

    There is chaos in most Muslim countries but they still keep producing doctors like hot cakes.

    Shows the problem with their psyche 😉

  367. #367 by tom on October 3, 2011 - 9:43 PM

    Khansahab

    I think reason behind India’s economic success is education. passionate nationalism is also in pakistan but very poor educational structure and secondly democracy ( although China counters this argument) is also a factor. Look at their IT sector- perhaps the most efficient in the world. But Indians need to be wary of the eco crisis as it is gobbling super powers and it could be a case similar to that in cricket.

    I agree that 10dulkar has a respectable image and he is a genius batsman. History will remember him as one of the all time greats.

  368. #368 by tom on October 3, 2011 - 9:46 PM

    Khansahab

    They do produce professionals but very few researchers- how many muslim noble laureates are there? I dont have the numbers but whats the literacy % of muslims- 30 or 40. low!

  369. #369 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 9:51 PM

    Tom

    Indian nationalism is very different to Pakistani nationalism.

    Sania Mirza could never have lived in Pakistan because of Indian nationalism.

    And Pakistanis would never have worked in India if they were as nationalistic as Indians.

  370. #370 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 9:53 PM

    Tom

    Yeah, by doctors I meant doctor of medicine and not doctor of philosophy or researcher.

    That is the termite in their psyche and they have no idea how destructive this is.

    Muslims find it difficult to reconcile “deen” with “duniya” and they approach life in such a way that they are unable to excel either in deen or duniya.

  371. #371 by Namaloom Afraad on October 3, 2011 - 10:01 PM

    Tom

    Pakistan has huge problems which India does not have which curtail nationalistic emotions in Pakistan:

    1. They don’t know what role Islam should play in governance because although religion is fairly detached from the machinery of government, Pakistan is not a secular country

    2. They have a 62% majority of one ethnicity that leads to cries of discrimination and inequality whether justifiably or otherwise

    3. The people who migrated from India don’t have equal recognition as other Pakistanis. The other problem is they are amongst the smallest ethnicities but proportionality wise they are most educated which naturally led to a power struggle which led to events that caused irreversible damage

    4. People are still unsure whether the purpose of their life is to achieve in Deen or Duniya and they have no inspiration that can direct them towards a “middle path”.

    5. “Democracy”, the route which people take in order to build nations, was built in Pakistan primarily on the basis of class (feudalism) or ethnicity. So that is an automatic bar to nationalism.

    These are just some of the problems which affect national identity and feelings of nationalism. India does not have any of this and even if they do, it is negligible.

  372. #372 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 3, 2011 - 11:37 PM

    khansahab

    You are not the only person on this blog who lamented about Tendulkar’s catches being dropped (4 times) unless you consider yourself as ME. Also, we all criticized Misbah too for his slow batting in the WC 2011 semifinal.

  373. #373 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 4, 2011 - 12:02 AM

    I have been saying this on various blogs for the last 10 years that the key to civilization is education. I am not saying civilization as an entire human civilization but, among the masses in general and in Pakistan in particular.

  374. #374 by tom on October 4, 2011 - 7:42 AM

    Khansahab

    Problems were bound to occur as Pakistan was created in name of Islam but the parameters to which religion would control state matters were never defined. provincial autonomy was usurped. Feudalism exists in India even today and so does ethnicity so that doesnt seem to be the cause. Military interventions did as lot of damage, something which wasnt in India.

    Pakistan was never meant to be a secular state. constitution clearly states that president and PM must be muslims. It was a process which was never conceived properly and confusion continues to increase amongst masses.

  375. #375 by Namaloom Afraad on October 4, 2011 - 9:20 AM

    Javed A Khan

    What I was referring to was when you, Sagaat, Munir sahab etc said something like, “How can you drop a player like SRT 4 times” but I did not say anything like that, because, it didn’t matter how many times Pakistan dropped SRT- he was just awful that day.

    That is what I was trying to convey.

    The blame lies mainly on Misbah as far as chasing is concerned because that target was very achievable. I think Younis made 13 from 30 odd balls which is still pretty bad, but he was out relatively early in the chase.

    It was a pathetic match and Pakistan just gifted the match to the Indians on a plate.

  376. #376 by Namaloom Afraad on October 4, 2011 - 9:29 AM

    Tom

    Feudalism exists in India but it is nowhere as dominant as Pakistani feudalism. In Pakistan “democracy” is made up of feudals, industries, properties etc belong to feudals. In India they must pay land and agricultural tax, in Pakistan hardly any of them pay these taxes.

    In India there is balance between the number of ethnicities- the largest ethnicity may be 20% and most others might be in the region of 10-15%. But in Pakistan it is something like 60%, 20%, 10%, 5% etc so there is absolutely no comparison.

    I disagree military interventions did a lot of damage. Civilian leaders were made up of feudals and industrialists and whenever corruption was rampant, army men stepped in. They have a duty to protect the country too. Musharraf made Pakistan into one of the fastest growing economies in the world in his tenure. Although I am not in favour of Zia ul Haq’s Islamist policies, he was bound to step in after Bhutto had committed mass corruption but had totally messed up the East Pakistan issue. Just imagine how demoralised the Pakistani public would have been.

    The 4 or 5 points I mentioned in my previous comment- Pakistan needs to make some decisions regarding them because the country will never prosper if the countrymen don’t know what they need to do with their lives.

  377. #377 by Namaloom Afraad on October 4, 2011 - 9:57 AM

    PML N leader Khwaja Asaf humiliated in his home town of Sialkot.

    The people have shown they are fed up of looters and thugs and want a positive change.

  378. #378 by tom on October 4, 2011 - 10:53 AM

    Khansahab

    zia simply followed US agenda and even in his time economy improved as US aid was pouring; same was the case with Mush and his policy of Enlightened moderation. So are you suggesting that there is no need for democracy, it has failed so call the boot guys and let them run everything- from legislation to civic administration. is this the panacea to all problems. I dont think so. If you think Mush is the solution then let him come and contest elections. from where do you think he will capture seats. Urban Sindh- MQM stronghold, Rural sindh- PPP and regional parties, Punjab- PPP,PML(N&Q),Imran khan (to an extent), Baluchistan- way too many parties and KP- ANP and religous parties. how many seats mush will win ; at most 30. To form a government he has to make a coalition with all these parties considered corrupt. so It doesnt seem realistic to expect from Mush any miracles. Its a different world, different than pre 2010, new economic situation. A totally new strategy and leadership is required. Apparently it seems that imran is the agencies man. he will form a coalition but whether he will deliver the goods is a question. he has one big advantage- he is UNTESTED

  379. #379 by Namaloom Afraad on October 4, 2011 - 11:27 AM

    Tom

    What difference does it make because Imran will also not be able to make inroads within Sindh or Baluchistan. If the PPP is not in government then every party will have to make coalition with MQM.

    Imran will also not win more than just a few seats and he will also have to make alliances with corrupt parties.

    You need to change the political system and electoral process and the “democratic” rulers of Pakistan have not been able to do that because they will not do anything that makes them less “electable”. So, why not depend on the army to provide economic progress, stability and change the system so that true democracy prevails in the country? I am a supporter of democracy and I admire the democracy of Britain, USA and India. But, in Pakistan the so called democratic civilian leaders have played a greater part in destroying democracy than the military rulers.

    Musharraf rejected US aid at one point and in his time Pakistan succeeded in paying back some loans which they were never able to do before. It is the current government that has been running Pakistan on the basis of receiving aid and the loans they have received in the past 3 years are greater than the loans Pakistan has cumulatively received since independence.

    I agree that Imran is untested but he is all about a lot of hype and little substance. The policies he talks about- it will take decades for Pakistan to reap fruits from them. Imran is more dictatorial as a person that Musharraf ever was and in my opinion he poses considerable danger to democracy in Pakistan and institutional stability because of his zero diplomacy skills. He is too idealistic to lead a government. He is living in a fantasy land and to be honest for his sake I would hope he never forms a government because it is more likely he will fail and he will lose his “hero” status.

  380. #380 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 4, 2011 - 12:09 PM

    I am glad to see this video about KHAJA ASAF and happy to see that him being humiliated in his own hometown Sialkot and people were showing him shoes and slippers and raising slogans against him and did not hear a word of what he was trying to blab. I wish one day they drag him out on the streets of Sialkot like those two Sialkot boys and then raid his house and seize the illegal assets he has acquired. I wonder why he did not stood up on the car and thump his chest in his usual manner and shouted MAI PANJABI HOON, MAI PANJABI HOON. Those guys already know that he is a Punjabi but BIG CHOORA.

  381. #381 by tom on October 4, 2011 - 4:46 PM

    Khansahab

    Either Imran will win enough seats to muster a coalition or (which is the most likely scenario) he will bite into PML N’s punjab vote and get their mandate lowered. Although you showed a video of K asif being howled but PML N’s position is much stronger than Q or PPP in punjab. Imran is thrusted into the equation to blunt the power base of PML N.He will definitely consume at least 55 of PML N vote which is enough to weaken it.

    You say political system needs tyo be changed, how? You say depend upon army to develop byt these army guys coolude with these corrupt parties; that was the reason behind Mush’s downfall- NRO and messing with chaudhary judge. He approached PPP with NRO carrot but ultimately got himself busted.

    Yes Imran is an unknown quantum and there is a definite risk. But people do try the untested just like Obama in America. I agree that there is a strong chance that he’ll screw things but isnt that the same case with others. That’s the question which haunts a perspective voter and he’s tired of these zardari’s, altafs, nawazs so he thinks about experimenting. But elections are 18 months away and anything ( I sniff ) may happen in between.

  382. #382 by tom on October 4, 2011 - 4:47 PM

    Sorry It was 5% of PML N vote

  383. #383 by Namaloom Afraad on October 4, 2011 - 4:58 PM

    Tom

    The NRO was America’s idea, not Musharraf’s.

    A person who made NAB to grab these corrupt people would not support NRO to relieve them of the corruption cases.

    Even this whole judiciary matter was just propaganda. Chief Justice Choudhary is back but how has that strengthened any institution in Pakistan? How has that helped the common man achieve justice? In fact the CJ has made a mockery of suo moto actions.

    I agree about Imran, that he poses a threat to PML N in Punjab and that is where he can prove more useful. He will get some sympathy vote from KP because of his opposition to the military operation in Fata.

    Some experts are predicting that PPP, Q League, ANP and some religious parties will form the next government. Interestingly MQM is missing from this- I guess because MQM has had enough of PPP’s bad governance.

  384. #384 by Namaloom Afraad on October 4, 2011 - 5:16 PM

    “I am not a great player. Actually I am an average player but Allah has created a lot of love in people’s hearts for me“: Shahid Afridi

  385. #385 by Namaloom Afraad on October 4, 2011 - 5:19 PM

    Everyone is scared of fast bowlers. I was referring to one spell where Sachin appeared to be scared of Shoaib Akhtar. I did not mean to say that Sachin was generally scared of Shoaib Akhtar. Sachin has played very well against Shoaib Akhtar“: Shahid Afridi

  386. #386 by Namaloom Afraad on October 4, 2011 - 5:20 PM

    Some Pakistani players are scared of Brett Lee”: Shahid Afridi

  387. #387 by Namaloom Afraad on October 4, 2011 - 5:21 PM

    “The Indians could not tolerate minor criticism and they have made a mountain of a molehill”: Shahid Afridi

  388. #388 by Namaloom Afraad on October 4, 2011 - 5:24 PM

    “I am under a lot of pressure. People come to my house and ask me to rejoin the Pakistan team. My late father wanted me to continue playing for Pakistan. This is why I am considering returning to international cricket. As a Pathan and as a human being my honour is very important and if I am treated with respect obviously I will play for Pakistan again“: Shahid Afridi

  389. #389 by tom on October 4, 2011 - 5:29 PM

    khansahab

    Whether it was US, an advisor or a dream, point is that Mush implemented NRO to save his butt but got busted. He was the president and the army chief and he knew that if BB came on street with her followers in support of judge dredd , it would be curtains. So it was a political transaction, but it backfired in the lo9nger run.

    U r right about judge dredd and infact that was what chaudharys were telling mush not to make it an ego war, let him do his work and manipulate hiom. but commando boy doesnt believe in backing off and rest is history.

  390. #390 by tom on October 4, 2011 - 5:32 PM

    “The Indians could not tolerate minor criticism and they have made a mountain of a molehill”: Shahid Afridi

    spot on Mr afridi; thats what Iam saying.

    But if you expect right now that you will be accorded a red carpet entry into paki team, it loooks veeery veeery difficult. the termite won the T20 cup and her mistress is doing rounds of presidency so i dont think your pulses will melt ( daal nahi galey gi).

  391. #391 by tom on October 4, 2011 - 5:35 PM

    Mr afridi if your honor is so important, why you took back your lawsuit. you could have decimated butt but you chose prosperity over integrity. Well youre not the first one in pakistan

  392. #392 by tom on October 4, 2011 - 5:37 PM

    Mr Afridi you r a great limited overs player- very few are talented in these formats as u are. I still remember ur performance in Benson & hedges 1996 tournament where u were Man of finals. Your delivery to Blewett ( legal or not) was exceptional. Hopefully youll get a chance in 2012 t20 wc.

  393. #393 by Namaloom Afraad on October 4, 2011 - 5:42 PM

    Tom

    He is a decent Test player too. He could guarantee 30-35 runs and 1-2 wickets.

    He is a more valuable player than the likes of Misbah and Malik, even in Tests. As an opener he is able to score more than the likes of Taufeeq and Farhat.

  394. #394 by Namaloom Afraad on October 4, 2011 - 5:47 PM

    Tom,

    I wanted to know your thoughts on this.

    Umar Gul recently said that a lot of fast bowlers use their nails, bottle tops or other items to tamper with the ball. This is obviously illegal.

    But the legal way to “tamper” with the ball is to throw it on the bounce unnecessarily and of course, to shine one area and rough up the other area.

    What I don’t understand is that there does not seem to be a great deal of difference between the legal and illegal methods. I mean, the objective is the same- to rough up one area.

    I think these are stupid laws UNLESS the illegal methods alter the condition of the ball more quickly than the legal method. But, if there isn’t a great deal of difference in the time it takes to rough up the ball, isn’t the law stupid?

  395. #395 by tom on October 4, 2011 - 8:27 PM

    Khansahab

    players deliberately bounce the ball on the ground to get it scuffed which is sometimes noticed by the umpires and considered tampering. players keep shining the ball using saliva to keep it swinging and then use different shining techniques for reverse swing. It wouldnt be wise to allow players use external stuff to tamper with the ball. There is a thin margin between skill and cheating.

  396. #396 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 4, 2011 - 10:20 PM

    Tampering the ball has been going on since ages, it was only when the English got out cheaply they found out some excuses because, the Pakistanis were more capable than them or any other bowler. Boycott said, you give them an orange and they will bowl you out. The difference at that time was in quality bowling. Unfortunately, these greedy idiots instead of passing on the art to the youngsters started using it in betting and match fixing and that is because it is in the nature to be disloyal to the country. It is imbued in their psyche. If you look at the history of Indo-Pak for the last 1000 years, every attack that took place on Indian subcontinent was from the North. There was some resistance at the Khyber and Bolan Passes and that was according to their limitations. Whereas, these same armies when they marched into the plains of Punjab, they were welcome with open hands, they were given, DOODH, DAHEE and even the MURRA BHINSAIN to entertain them, the entertainment was such that these armies stayed not for months but for years as they had access to Milk market, fruit and vegetable market and even the Diamond Market. I think there is a missing link here like it is among the Goras.

    Pakistani politics is such a dirty name if you tell someone MC, BC, or whatever he doesn’t mind. Call him a Siyasat Daan its a gaali.

  397. #397 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 5, 2011 - 8:18 AM

    According to cricinfo, the Jury reportedly asked these questions from Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif who are currently under trail in the UK right now.

    1) Have they or any family members ever worked as a professional journalist or currently work in that capacity.
    2) Do they or any family members earn their living from professional cricket?
    3) Are they or family members working in the gambling industry?

    Third question is the most tough one, reportedly the family members of one of them is a bookie in horse racing. See how the response comes?

  398. #398 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 5, 2011 - 8:23 AM

    I wonder why they keep discarding Hammad Azam from the national team? He has been included in the Hong Kong SIXES under Abdul Razzaq’s captaincy.
    Its a shame that he is such a talented player and is still kept away from the team.

    Dhoni’s “DEFORMity” continues even at home, in yesterday’s match he scored only 2 runs, I just saw the score card on cricinfo because Warner‘s century headlines got my attention.

  399. #399 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 5, 2011 - 8:31 AM

    CRICKET ON CREDIT

    “Cricket Udhaar Khelo, Apnay game ko “L” day lagao aur khaali khooli khush reho kay we are the champions!”

    “Among so many other foreign players, Simon Katich is one of the players who has not been paid. -AFP

    NEW DELHI: The Indian Premier League has not honoured the contracts of some foreign stars and not paid them despite repeated reminders, the world players’ union said on Friday.

    Simon Katich of Australia and Ramnaresh Sarwan of the West Indies were among “a number of players that are owed contract payments”, the Federation of International Cricketers Association (FICA) said in a statement.

    “A number of players whose contracts were ‘subsidised’ by the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) have recently contacted FICA to assist in recovering the amounts,” FICA chief executive Tim May said.

    “Despite numerous attempts by the players to recover these amounts, not only do the amounts still remain unpaid, but the IPL/BCCI have recently failed to respond to communications made by the players and their representatives.

    “FICA last month wrote to the (then) IPL chairman Mr Chirayu Amin on behalf of the players to draw his attention to the matter, but to date neither we nor the players have received a response,” said May.

    The unpaid amounts relate to the third edition of the IPL in 2010, FICA said.

    Neither Katich nor Sarwan took part in the IPL that year, but remained under contract with the King’s XI Punjab franchise, since they were signed for three years after the players’ auction in 2008.

    May hoped the recent appointments of N. Srinivasan as BCCI president and Rajiv Shukla as IPL chairman would help resolve the issue.

    “We trust that these two gentlemen will ensure that BCCI will address these payments as a matter of urgency,” May said in the statement.

    There was no immediate response from the BCCI on FICA’s accusations.

    The money-spinning IPL is also facing a government probe for financial irregularities that led to Lalit Modi, the league’s founder, being thrown out over graft charges.”

    The IPL DRAMA, SENSATIONALIZED DOMESTIC CRICKET IN INDIA SINCE 2008 with international stars and Bollywood glamour tapping into India’s immense appetite for the sport. WHICH IN THE OPINION OF SERIOUS CRICKETERS HAS RUINED THE GAME OF CRICKET AND INDIA’S DEMISE IN ENGLAND IS A PROOF.

  400. #400 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 5, 2011 - 2:06 PM

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/535186.html

    Why is FAZOOL Hussain, the PCB lawyer visiting London during the trial? He said, he is only here to observe the trial and not to influence them in any manner whatsoever. This is an example of:

    1. THE PCB WASTING MONEY WO BHEE “BILA FAZOOL” KAY.
    2. IT IS A PROOF THAT FAZOOL IS IN LONDON TO GIVE MORAL SUPPORT TO THE TRIO.
    3. IT MEANS THE PCB WANTS TO BRING THEM BACK INTO THE TEAM IF THEY ARE FOUND “NAAT GILTEE


    After all, ASAF and AAMAR are “their SALLY-BRITTIES”
    This is exactly what the Senator said when he got Asif out of Jail from Dubai.

  401. #401 by tom on October 5, 2011 - 3:34 PM

    Aasif and butt dont have a good chance of getting spared. aamir has confessed his guilt and it looks quite likely that these two will also be proved guilty. PCB is an Assoholic Organization which doesnt understand international laws and assumes that same paki tricks would work ans some “Juggadr” will be found. Waste your money you idiots and taxpayers money! Thats what is happening in pakistan

    look what happened yesterday. Shujaat gave tadri to PPP and today its all Gulab jaman and we buddies will fight next election together. Khansahab u were saying MQM looks unlikely to be in next govt well surprise surprise they have joined the govt. One must confess zardari is a corrupt evil genius who woos virtually all parties and lets Nawaz lick his own ass. Zardri is taking revenge by ruining the whole country for the jail term he served.

  402. #402 by Namaloom Afraad on October 5, 2011 - 4:11 PM

    Ijaz Butt’s last masterstroke?

    Muhammad Ilyas appointed chief selector

    LAHORE:
    Member of the selection committee, Muhammad Ilyas has been handed over the responsibilities of chief selector by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), Express 24/7 reported on Wednesday.

    The shuffle came after Waqar Younis resigned from his position as the cricket team’s national coach and Mohsin Khan was appointed interim coach for an upcoming tour.

    Younis had earlier announced that the recent Zimbabwe tour would be his last, citing personal and health reasons for relinquishing his post, which he has held since early last year.

    The vacancy created by his resignation was filled by chief selector Mohsin Hassan Khan, who has taken up the role of an interim coach for the national team.

    As reported earlier, Ilyas was suspended by PCB in June this year, for alleged breach of conduct for criticising Shahid Afridi and appearing on a TV show with banned cricketer Salman Butt.

  403. #403 by Namaloom Afraad on October 5, 2011 - 4:26 PM

    PCB have sent their representative to London, maybe to note down any accusations Asif or Butt make in relation to the PCB?

    “We were acting under Ijaz Butt’s orders”

    “Zardari asked us to approach Majeed”

    “Zardari asked for his 10%”

    😀

  404. #404 by tom on October 5, 2011 - 5:32 PM

    Rampant corruption’ in spot-fixing case: prosecutor
    Updated at: 1851 PST, Wednesday, October 05, 2011
    LONDON: Pakistan players took bribes to bowl deliberate no-balls during a match against England in a case that exposes “rampant corruption” at the heart of international cricket, a court heard Wednesday.

    Former captain Salman Butt, 26, and fast bowler Mohammad Asif, 28, deny charges of conspiracy to obtain and accept corrupt payments, and conspiracy to cheat at gambling, relating to the fourth Test at Lord’s in August 2010.

    A third Pakistan player, prodigal young bowler Mohammad Aamer, and Butt’s British agent Mazhar Majeed have also been charged with the same offences but they are not standing trial alongside Butt and Asif in London.

    “This case reveals a depressing tale of rampant corruption at the heart of international cricket, with the key players being members of the Pakistan cricket team,” prosecutor Aftab Jafferjee said in his opening statement to Southwark Crown Court.

    “It is the prosecution’s case that all four men were involved — and by the time the last Test match at Lord’s took place each of them was well at it — the two bowlers being orchestrated by their captain, and the captain’s agent Majeed, to bowl three no-balls at a pre-arranged point in the game,” he said.

    Jafferjee added: “Their activity represents, say the Crown, a betrayal by them of their own team, their own board of cricket, and most damaging of all a betrayal of the sport of cricket itself — and all for greed.”

    The allegations of so-called “spot-fixing” stem from an investigation by the Rupert Murdoch-owned News of the World tabloid, which was closed down in July when it became engulfed in Britain’s phone-hacking scandal.

    The paper’s former undercover reporter Mazher Mahmood — nicknamed the “fake sheikh” for sometimes wearing Arab dress — learned of allegations that Majeed was involved in fixing and decided to investigate while posing as a member of a betting syndicate, Jafferjee said.

    The case showed the influence of the betting industry and that the “vast” sums of money it deals with were threatening the integrity of the game, prosecutor Jafferjee said.

    “That which underpinned all of this activity was the betting industry — primarily the betting industry overseas, which in turn was centred in the Asian sub-continent — involving India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, and the Far East.”

    He said the amounts of money turned over in the sub-continent were “simply breathtaking… in the region of $40 and $50 billion (30 to 37 billion euros)” per year.

    Asif sat in court wearing a brown pinstripe suit and a white shirt, with a white folder on his lap. He listened to an Urdu-speaking translator who sat to his left.

    Butt sat to Asif’s right wearing a charcoal grey jacket and blue jeans.

    Butt told British police in an interview that the timing of the no-balls exactly when Majeed told the journalist they would be bowled was “a series of freakish occurrences”, the prosecutor said.

    Asif told detectives it was “just chance”, he added.

    The case started late after a new jury had to be sworn in on Wednesday when a member of the previous jury fell sick. Butt and Asif stood in court to confirm they had no objection to the jurors.

    In his statement, Jafferjee also sought to play down concerns about the News of the World’s involvement in the case.

    “Whatever views one might hold about that publication,” Jafferjee said,

    Were this investigation not to have been permitted, the activity of ‘fixing’ would almost certainly have continued — unabated, unaccountable — and beyond the reach of the law.”

    He added that he had to assume that some members of the jury did not know the rules of cricket, especially the no-ball rule, and showed them a diagram featuring the popping crease line.

    A no-ball is called if the bowler’s front foot lands ahead of it, he said, adding: “Which is why it is so attractive to fixing, because the answer is ‘whoops.'”

    The charges against the pair carry maximum sentences of seven years and two years in prison respectively.

    At the time of the alleged offences, Butt was captain of Pakistan’s Test side and had won plaudits for his leadership of the team.

    Asif was the team’s senior pace bowler, while teenage left-arm swing bowler Aamer was regarded as one of the hottest properties in world cricket.(AFP)

  405. #405 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 6, 2011 - 12:34 AM

    ilyASS has been appointed as the Chief Selector of the PCB? The guy who was suspended for blabbing filth in public and now he is rewarded with this important post? I will not be surprised if Imran Farhat is made captain of the Pakistan cricket team. In any case he will be in the playing XI in ALL formats of the game. What a stinking AssWhole is Ijaz Butt.

    I think we guys should stop discussing Pakistani cricket?

  406. #406 by Mohammed Munir on October 6, 2011 - 4:37 AM

    ILL-ASS (Bimaar xxxxxxx) being made the Chief Selector of PCB … Wow, what a good news for Imran Farhat. 😉

  407. #407 by Mohammed Munir on October 6, 2011 - 4:57 AM

    Dean Jones seeks Pakistan coaching job

    The former Aussie player hasn’t heard anything official from the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) but he is reported to have made a five-man shortlist along with former England all-rounder Dermot Reeve and local applicant ex-Test fast bowler Aaqib Javed.

    Jones would have to deal with a lack of coaching experience to get the job, and said his first challenge, if successful, would be to set up a settled environment and a culture of tough love.

    “I believe I’m in the last five,” Jones said recently. “I’ve always wanted to coach and the opportunity came along so I put my hand up.”

    Pakistan cricket has in recent years been hit hard by issues of terrorism, spot-fixing scandals and endured constant disturbances over selection.

    But Jones insisted there was no dearth of talent in Pakistan. If successful, he would try to convince former limited-overs captain Shahid Afridi, who quit over differences with former coach Waqar Younis earlier this year, to return and instil a more defensive mindset in the team.

    “Ultimately, it comes down to the defensive part of their game that needs to be worked on, and that just comes down to proper drills and attention to detail,” Jones expressed.

    ”Take out what has happened with the betting scandal, take out the security problems, everyone in the world who knows cricket knows they [Pakistan] have always had a wonderful pool of talent. It’s just a matter of getting the culture right, getting them to take ownership of their actions, working together and who knows, they could win a World Cup in three years time,” the Aussie added.

    PS: Now we all know that Dean Jones is not the best option, but trust me even he will be better then Aaqib Javed. 😉

  408. #408 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 9:16 AM

    Afridi seeks meeting with Zardari to make comeback

    MUMBAI – Former Pakistan skipper Shahid Afridi is all set to seek the permission of the President Asif Ali Zardari to announce his intention of returning to the national team, it is learnt here.
    According to the sources in Pakistan, Afridi was scheduled to meet Zardari, PCB Patron, on Monday night. The meeting, which was arranged by Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain, the Pakistan Muslim League (PML-Q) party leader, however, could not take place. This was confirmed by Mushahid Hussain Sayed, the General Secretary of the party. The new date for the meeting is yet to be finalised”, the GS said exclusively over telephone from Islamabad.
    Whenever the meeting takes place, Afridi is likely to revoke his retirement immediately thereafter. When approached in Pakistan, Afridi did confirm, “I am trying to meet the president. I am yet to get his appointment”. He didn’t disclose the reason for his meeting with the president.

  409. #409 by tom on October 6, 2011 - 9:20 AM

    Munir

    No doubt Dean Jones is not the best option, but he may be a one eyed king.

    Khansahab

    Do you think Afridi is playing his cards correctly or this move will backfire. he did approach Zardari before.

  410. #410 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 9:22 AM

    Tom

    Afridi cannot approach Ijaz Butt so he is approaching the President.

    He has political connections so he is using them.

    I don’t know how this move can backfire? If Zardari does not want to meet Afridi, Zardari will become even more unpopular.

  411. #411 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 9:26 AM

    Butt denies seeking tenure extension

    LAHORE: PCB Chairman Ijaz Butt on Thursday denied that he wrote Pakistan President and board patron Asif Ali Zardari for extension of his tenure but refused to divulge details of the meeting with him.

    Butt’s term as PCB chairman is scheduled to end on October 8 as per the notification issued by the government at the time of his appointment to the post three years back.

    But, there are reports that Butt has sought a six-month extension from Zardari. However, Butt denied any such move.

    The President appointed me as chairman of the board and reposed faith in me. He has always supported and backed me. He is the boss and I don’t want to comment on issues that are confidential,” Butt said.

  412. #412 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 9:29 AM

    Tom

    MQM not joining the next government was not my prediction, but of some experts.

    I don’t care what they do but whatever these people do, the common man should get comfort that his hard earned money will not go into the pockets of looters and thugs and the common man must not lose hope with Pakistan.

  413. #413 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 9:46 AM

    Tom

    I was telling you that the prospect of $$$ will lure foreigners to Pakistan and Dean Jones has now publicly demonstrated his interest.

    Jones has given his version on what needs to be done to improve cricket in Pakistan, but at a very simple level, if the 4-5 parchees in every squad are replaced with players playing on merit, then the team will automatically catapult to the top 4.

    Then it just becomes a question of being more mentally strong and improving fielding which will take Pakistan to top 2 or top 3.

  414. #414 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 9:48 AM

    How pathetic that in order to protect the likes of Farhat, Misbah, Malik etc, they need to pay $$$ to a foreign coach hoping that Pakistan will rise in ICC rankings.

    They will not eliminate corruption and nepotism but they are willing to dish out millions in hopes that team performance can improve.

  415. #415 by tom on October 6, 2011 - 10:01 AM

    Khansahab

    Deano is not a high profile coach. I dont think he has coached asny team in Sheffield shield and my view was that lower tier coaches will come and will be taken hand in hand as you know Pakistanis are very impressed by imported stuff . I hope that he doesnt become another Woolmer.

    With these Zartdaris, Nawazs, Husseins in the equation, how do you anticipate a thug will not come again. Common man hardly gets any comfort. if you watch the news, youll see power outages in whole country. I hope that what you say does happen but looks very unlikely with these leaders.

  416. #416 by tom on October 6, 2011 - 10:07 AM

    Khansahab

    Zardari previously snubbed Afrtidi and he gives a damn about popularity- still Afridi may get a chance but with Misbah and co. as incharge do you think he would be given freedom to perform. However with Shujaat’s Pawaa he may get an opportunity!

  417. #417 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 11:02 AM

    Subcontinent gambles $50 bn on cricket, London court told

    London: Jurors in a London Crown Court were told that cricket betting syndicates were controlled and orchestrated by “shadowy figures” based in Dubai, Mumbai, London and Karachi and some $50 billion was gambled away in the Asian subcontinent alone on matches played around the world and beamed live on satellite television.

    Aftab Jafferjee, a Queen`s Counsel appearing on behalf of the Crown Prosecution Service, said that even if that figure was reduced by a tenth it “not unsurprisingly makes `spot` fixing and match fixing irresistible to some”, according to reports.

    The agent of accused Pakistani cricketers Mazhar Majeed had told an undercover reporter that fixing the outcome of a Test match had been achieved in the past and could be arranged for a fee of 1 million pounds.

    He also said a Twenty20 result would cost 400,000 pounds and a bracket of 10 overs, when scoring patterns are used in spread betting, cost 50,000-80,000 pounds to arrange.

    On the first full day of the trial of former Pakistan captain Salman Butt and fast bowler Mohammad Asif in London`s Southwark Crown Court, Jafferjee said the betting industry developed in the 1990s and bets are taken out seconds before the event with “breathtaking” amounts involved in illegal betting.

    “This case reveals a depressing tale of rampant corruption at the heart of international cricket, with key players being members of the Pakistan cricket team,” Jafferjee said.

    Butt and Asif deny conspiracy to cheat and conspiracy to accept corrupt payments between Aug 15-29 last year, with the case centering on the fourth Test at Lord`s.

    The third accused, teenage fast bowler Mohammad Amir, and Majeed, who is charged with being the

    middleman in the alleged plot, are not required to appear in court.

    Transcripts of conversations between Majeed and a reporter from the now defunct News of the World revealed the agent as saying: “I`ve been doing it with them for about two-and-a-half years and we`ve made masses and masses of money.”

    Majeed also told the reporter fixing when a no-ball would be bowled is “easy” and costs “10,000 pounds each”.

    The three players are accused of receiving money to ensure no-balls were deliberately bowled at a specified time in the match.

    “It is the prosecution`s case that … each of them was well at it, the two bowlers (Asif and Amir) being orchestrated by their captain (Butt) and the captain`s agent, Majeed, to bowl three no-balls at a prearranged point in the game,” Jafferjee said.

    Jafferjee said the fixing was orchestrated “at the expense of the integrity of the game”.

    He said the men had “contaminated” the games and “their activity represents a betrayal by them of their own team, their own Board of Cricket and most damaging of all a betrayal of the sport of cricket itself — and all for greed”.

  418. #418 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 12:20 PM

    The Prosecution in the spot fixing trial have mentioned that the Akmal brothers and Wahab Riaz are also allegedly involved in fixing.

  419. #419 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 1:01 PM

    The Prosecution says that Mazhar Majeed and the fixers were going to “f*ck up” Shahid Afridi and replace him with Salman Butt as T20 captain so that T20s could be fixed.

  420. #420 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 1:03 PM

    Spot-fixing trial: Seven ‘fixers’ in Pakistan team named and T20 World Cup plot uncovered

    The agent at the centre of the cricket corruption scandal claimed he had seven ‘fixers’ in the Pakistan team – and attempted to corrupt the 2010 Twenty20 World Cup, a court heard today.

    Mazhar Majeed, a London-based sports agent, said he deliberately “groomed” younger players in the Pakistan squad and told an undercover journalist the names of those he claimed he could rely on to “fix” play.

    The internationals, as named in court, were: batsmen Salman Butt, Umar Akmal, wicketkeeper Kamran Akmal and bowlers Mohammad Asif, Mohammad Amir and Wahab Riaz.

    Majeed also named batsman Imran Farhat, but went on to say that he was “not in on the whole picture”, and that “we ask him to do brackets and sometimes we ask him to do wickets”.

    Two of the players – Asif and Butt – are on trial for spot-fixing during the Lord’s Test match against England in 2010. Prosecutors say that Amir, who is not involved in these proceedings, was also involved in the conspiracy.

    At Southwark Crown Court today, text message evidence recovered by police from Majeed’s phone indicated the agent was attempting to corrupt the Pakistan team earlier in the year, at the Twenty20 World Cup in the West Indies.

    During the tournament, after Butt had invited Majeed to his hotel room, the agent texted the player at 2.30am on May 9: “Ok, how about the other thing – one in the seventh over and one in the eighth?”

    The next day, more texts were sent to Butt, the court heard.

    The first said: “This will only work if you score in first two overs, no wickets.”

    Another read: “Bro, also confirm other thing in seventh and eighth, one fall in each”.

    The prosecution said there is a wealth of “damning evidence” of the detailed conversations between Butt and Mazhar.

    Jurors heard of exchanges during the Oval Test match against England last year, before the game at Lord’s.

    After the third day of the Test, before Pakistan’s second innings, Majeed called Butt at 11.41pm, and talked to him on the speakerphone of his mobile phone about deliberately playing out a maiden at a specified time.

    Majeed said: “So the first full over you play, make sure you play a maiden.”

    Butt responded in Urdu: “Theek hai” (ok/fine)

    They then set up a signal to show that the bet was on, it is alleged.

    Majeed said: “After the second ball, just go and tap the middle of the pitch ok?”

    Butt replied: “Theek hai” (ok/fine)

    When the journalist then asked if he was sure Butt would co-operate, Majeed answered: “Believe me – he’s done this many times”.

    Asked again whether he was sure Butt was trusted to fix events, Majeed said: “Salman is a million per cent. Trust me.”

    In the event, Butt did not play out a maiden, the court heard. Majeed explained that Butt pulled out of the fix because he had to face the new ball – after the fall of a wicket in the first over – and could not guarantee he would not nick a delivery through the slips.

    Pakistan went on to take a historic victory at the Oval, but on the night before the win, it is alleged Majeed called a “shady” unidentified figure in India and asked him about what offer he would make to apparently arrange the match to be thrown.

    Aftab Jafferjee, QC, prosecuting, said: “The Indian caller provides a figure of a million dollars. The only context to place this in the light of all the evidence, would be the price for Pakistan to lose the Test match when they were plainly poised for a memorable victory. It reveals that at least the idea had been floated between Majeed and the Indian party.”

    Butt and Asif deny charges of cheating and accepting corrupt payments. The case continues.

  421. #421 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 6, 2011 - 3:12 PM

    I have always said that Pakistan does not need a foreign coach. Considering the options, I tend to agree with Munir that Dean Jones would be any time better than Aaqib Javed, who is a gang member of the same old mafia of Waqar and Inti Alam and has no talent to deliver. He became famous because of the Academy, whereas Rashid Latif’s academy is not only far more superior in terms of producing players but Rashid Latif himself is a very honest, sincere and a fair person. His judgment about cricket in general and players in particular is far more better than Aaqib. Regarding Dean Jones, he was not only one of my favourite players but, also a good commentator, unfortunately he got banned because of a light hearted comment on Amla which went live on air and he was suspended and banned. But, he has been pardoned and he has also apologized to Amla in person. Anyways, if you have a problem selector like ILL ASS then what can one do?

  422. #422 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 6, 2011 - 3:17 PM

    “…….then the team will automatically catapult to the top 4.

    khansahab someone asked me once what is the meaning of “catapulting” ?

    My reply was “Billi Ko Ulatna Pulatna.”

  423. #423 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 6, 2011 - 3:30 PM

    I would like these culprits to be punished for the spot fixing and corruption and for ruining the game of cricket in Pakistan also, the career of a younger player.

    However, if they are talking about an amount of $50 billion involved in betting and that happens in, Mumbai, Dubai, London and Karachi. If the amount is correct then, they should also provide details and I am sure Mumbai would be on the TOP OF THE LIST followed by Dubai where the hold of Indian Gamblers is as strong as it is in Mumbai. Whereas, London and Karachi are controlled by small fish like Mazhar Majeed whereas, no one dares to even mention the names of the Indian DONS from the Underworld or even people like Modi.

    So, it would be fair to expose them all rather than A & B are made scapegoats and gets the punishment. They must get the punishment but others should also be identified and punished, why lay the entire blame of tghe gambling world on two, three or seven Pakistani players?

  424. #424 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 3:44 PM

    Javed A Khan

    It seems the only difference between what Butt, Asif, Aamer and the likes of Akmal brothers/Wahab/Farhat have done is that the former three were “caught in the act” so to speak because the story was published when the Test match was either ongoing or had just concluded.

    However it seems that due to legal technicalities such as place of the offence, timing, jurisdiction, ICC’s role in prosecution and confusion about the scope of PCB’s powers, the other players will get away with it.

  425. #425 by tom on October 6, 2011 - 3:52 PM

    I dont think making fun of religion and labelling someone as a terrorist because he follows Sunnah of Prophet (SAW) should be considered a light hearted comment. This provides fodder to these westerners for mocking religion. its good that deano realized his folly and apologized.

    It looks these pakistani cricketers will get sentenced. Well its their fault and lust of money led them to this. Curtains for Butt and co.

  426. #426 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 4:02 PM

    Tom

    I don’t think one should use sweeping statements like, “these westerners”.

    If Dean Jones called Amla a terrorist because of his beard then that is a sweeping remark as well, but it is as condemnable as you making a sweeping statement.

    If someone made a remark like “these muslims” then I am sure you would be offended. Plus, Javed A Khan, Sagaat, Bichoo, Pawan etc, we are all “Westerners” too!

  427. #427 by tom on October 6, 2011 - 4:26 PM

    Khansahab

    I never implied “all westerners”

    there is a difference between these and all.

    when I referred to these westerners, I referred to the ones who make fun of religion- not all westerners. otherwise I would have used all westerners.

    In effect Amla is a western, so that would be a gross misinterpretation of my comment. On this blog, religion is not mocked. as you would recall there was a debate between Gandhi and Prophet Mohammad (SAW) and it was defended here. So in context of outlook and thats what I meant by western here you are not in that category. geographically its a different matter. none of the participants here make fun of any religion.

  428. #428 by tom on October 6, 2011 - 4:29 PM

    Yvonne ridley, Cat stevens, Wayne parnell are some westerners who embraced Islam. So how can I be critical of them although they are muslims yet Western.

  429. #429 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 6, 2011 - 5:40 PM

    Actually the word ‘terrorist’ has become like a taboo since 9/11. I remember in the mid nineties high school kids here playing hockey and soccer used to use this word to praise someone who is an aggressive player i.e., in describing his game and his moves that he is so fast and so quick and penetrate the defense of the opposition team like a terrorist. And, they used to call each other “hey you terrorist.” you create terror in our defense lines etc. If Dean Jones and Amla had that kinda friendly relation ( I am not sure about that) and if they joke with each other like that, I guess it is not a big deal. It is the intent that is more important than the actual word. If you are trying to degrade and humiliate or label them as bad people then it is bad. Its like calling someone hey you faggot (especially in Urdu) and if the guy doesn’t mind because of their understanding with each other, its no biggy and if the word is used to humiliate the other person then its a different story. The unfortunate thing is the mic was on and Dean Jones was not aware of it and it was heard by many people.

    From what we hear, Amla is a very humble person and when it comes to religion he is very strict in practicing his religion, on the side he is very normal jovial sort of person and not like a typical Mullah. Parnell has embraced Islam but, he said, he will still wear that Beer Ad. tag on his shirt for which he gets money. I think the concept of Islam has not yet sunk in his psyche completely because, it is clearly mentioned about alcohol “Sharaab Peenay Wala, Pilanay Wala, Laanay Wala, Lay jaanay wala, uski tijarat kernay wala, ya uss kay ziryeh paisay kamanay wala…… Inn Sab per Allah ki taraf say Lanaat hai.” I dunno where it is written, but I have been hearing this since my childhood and I oppose the use of Alcohol more than I oppose the use of drugs, manshiyaat. A druggy cannot harm a passer by on the street but, drunk driving can kill a few people on the road. In my opinion it is more dangerous than drugs.

  430. #430 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 6, 2011 - 5:46 PM

    As regards Gandhi MK, my stance about him still remains the same and it will never change. Especially when you read the sexuality and Brahmachariya aspects of his life and the way he practiced it. I won’t bat my eyelid if he had done that in personal life and he was not so famous, in fact despite all these immoral acts he is still considered as a deity. Even that I accept, because it is up to the Indians or those who support and like Gandhi. But, please do not make him an Angel and Apostle and call Jinnah a villain or a bad person. And, even worst is when they compare Gandhi with Prophet Mohammad, that I don’t like and I will express my feelings very strongly that how come you call him a great person when he has a record of numerous immoral activities which he tries to justify in his own way and people blindly accept that. I am sorry, I don’t agree with these dual standards be it Gandhi or anyone else.

  431. #431 by tom on October 6, 2011 - 6:07 PM

    Its true that the word “terrorist” has become very negative in perception as it was believed post 9/11 that muslims specially extremist muslims ( the notion is that bearded muslims are extremists) are responsible for terrorist activities globally. Whatever was deono’s intent, on face value the South African public considered it to be derogatory ( apparently thats what it seemed)and vehemently objected to it and Deano realised that it wasnt right so he apologised.

    If we look at the flip side, most of the negative publicity muslims get has roots in their own acts to an extent, like Salman Butt, who is reported to be a 5 time prayer and hails from a religuous family, hence people do question the contradictions within muslims. Its not only parnell but Muslims who havent fully comprehended the essence of Islam- Iam referring here to a majority, not everyone. Its like some foreigner once described a typical karachi culture- you see small boys learning Quran in a seminary and then you see a Dance party with alcohol served in a posh locality like defence. A remarkable contradiction!

  432. #432 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 6, 2011 - 6:35 PM

    Salman Butt hails from a religious family? I have heard from people who live here, originally from Lahore, they still keep going to Pakistan every year or every two years, they said his father was a bookie at the Lahore Horse Racing Club. I know that in Pakistan Horse Racing is officially banned, but horse racing takes place every week and jockeys practice everyday like it happens in Derby. Officially one is not allowed to bet money on horses then why do they allow horse racing? I don’t like this hypocrisy and dual standards, which happens all over the world.

    In Dubai, there are various Mujra Houses in big and even in medium sized hotels just like a disco in any of the 3-5 star hotels in the world, A Russian disco, A Filipino Disco etc. and, in Dubai besides all that, they also have Indian Mujra house, Pakistani Mujra house and a lot of people go there, they buy alcohol, consume it and spend money on gashtees, they are not allowed to throw money on the floor like they do in India and Pakistan, they have to buy plastic flower garlands starting from dirhams 50 to 1000 and, the guy who pays for the garland remains seated, only the girl who is selling those flowers goes to that gashtee and gives her that garland and points out to that Gashti that so and so sitting there, this is from him. The guy raises his hand and she acknowledge it with a traditional ADAAB.

    And, this happens in upper class Indian restaurants also, where a women singer is sitting on a TAQAT next to the Tabalchee and the Sitar player and singing, people keep sending plastic flower garlands to her and during her Ghazal recital she keeps on ADAABING to various Tharkees who spend their money on these gashtees.

    I know one very rich desi guy, who earns genuine, legal money from textiles and electronics business, I saw him in that restaurant and he bought 2000 dirhams worth of plastic flowers and sent it to her when she acknowledged, he stood up and went out even before the Ghazal was half finished. A few days later, I saw him at a party and I mentioned that, I saw you…….. he said, Bhai jaan once I gave so and so Dh. 50,000 and when I walked out, the CID police guy came behind me and asked me who are you and why did you give her so much money? He said, I took out my business card from my pocket and gave him and said, find out who I am and what is my business. But, the police guy said, he will but he asked why so much money? He replied, its my money I feel pleasure in giving it that way, I can throw that money in the ocean, who are you to object? The policeman had to let him go. Besides this Gashti Baazi, he is known to donate hundreds of thousands of dollars in charity and I know for sure he was already a billionaire in dirhams.

  433. #433 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 6, 2011 - 6:37 PM

    From what I know and what I remember, Deano apologized to Amla the moment he came to know that his comment was on the air, the general public reacted a couple of days later and that is when he was suspended or banned to pacify the SA public and Muslims in general.

  434. #434 by tom on October 6, 2011 - 8:35 PM

    It was a blog in Dawn where it was mentioned about Butt’s prayers and family customs depicting a religuous culture. In pakistan whatever is banned is banned so that it could happen undercover.

  435. #435 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 9:03 PM

    Wayne Rooney’s father arrested over alleged football betting scam

    Police have arrested Wayne Rooney’s father, his uncle Richie and seven other people, including a Scottish Premier League player, over allegations of a football betting scam.

    The arrests, carried out across Merseyside and Glasgow, relate to a game between Motherwell and Hearts in December last year, which Hearts won 2-1 following a second half penalty.

    The Motherwell midfielder Steve Jennings was arrested after allegedly getting himself sent off deliberately during the match.

    It is believed that there was a pattern of irregular betting, with stakes being put on a red card being given. One was allegedly from a new account opened in Liverpool, from where £500 was staked at odds of 10/1.

  436. #436 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 9:04 PM

    Australian rugby league’s Ryan Tandy fined over match-fixing scandal

    The Australian rugby league player Ryan Tandy has been fined £2,500 for his part in a match-fixing scandal after a Sydney court found he had attempted to manipulate a scoring play during a National Rugby League game.

    The 30-year-old former Canterbury prop was sacked by his club after becoming embroiled in a spot-fixing investigation, which was prompted by a betting plunge on the first scoring play of the Bulldogs’ match against the North Queensland Cowboys in August last year.

  437. #437 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 9:09 PM

    The Supreme Court delivers its verdict on the Keranchi case and blames all parties for extortion and target killings, and the government for failure to offer protection to citizens. The decision has been welcomed by MQM and ANP.

    Pakistan court orders action on Karachi violence

    Islamabad: The Supreme Court of Pakistan on Thursday said criminal gangs with political backing were responsible for the violence and target killings in the country’s financial capital and asked the government to take stern action to eliminate their dens.

    Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry while announcing the verdict criticised the provincial Sindh government for failing to take effective measures against target killings and extortion in Karachi which is the financial hub of Pakistan.

    The CJP Chief took a suo motu notice on the appeal of Allama Tahirul Qadri, the head of the Tehreek-e-Minhajul Quran, in a bid to improve the law and order conditions in the city, where more than 1,000 people have been killed this year.

    Quoting intelligence reports Chaudhry noted that the main reason for the violence and target killings in the city was the presence of criminal gangs in all political parties.

    He said that these criminal gangs had political backing and were involved in extortion racket with impunity.

    The court said that banned outfits including Sunni Tehreek are involved in extortion, while there are allegations of the same offence against parties such as Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP), Jamat-e-Islami (JI), Awami National Party (ANP) and MQM are also involved in this racket.

    The CJP in his remarks also quoted the Inspector General of Police of Sindh as saying that the police force was demoralised mainly because of the fact that 40 per cent of the police officials had been recruited on political grounds who are reluctant to act decisively.

  438. #438 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 9:12 PM

    How ironic that two reports about betting and match fixing in football and rugby have come out at the same time when the spot fixing trial is being conducted in London.

  439. #439 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 9:18 PM

    Tom

    Once I tried to argue on this blog that the aim of religion should be to enforce morality, but there is no link between morality and ritualistic religious practices.

    Look at the case of that Qadri psychopath who is pleased with committing murder.

  440. #440 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 9:21 PM

    Also, the Prime Minister of Pakistan hails from a family of “Pirs” but he is allegedly involved in mass corruption. Some say he is the most corrupt PM in the history of Pakistan.

  441. #441 by Namaloom Afraad on October 6, 2011 - 9:28 PM

    Javed A Khan

    The job of the coach should be to assist in devising strategy and building mental strength.

    They can do fielding drills but players ought to “learn” fielding at domestic level before they get selected for international cricket. Of course in Pakistan good fielding standard is not a prerequisite.

    I think the only area where a foreign coach can help Pakistan is with mental strength but it did not happen with a high profile coach like Woolmer or other low profile coaches. In terms of strategy and knowing each player’s strengths and weaknesses, the captain and coach both can discuss this and come to an agreement.

    Miandad, Wasim Akram and Imran Khan could have been the best coaches because they were all shrewd players and captains and they have served Pakistan cricket for a long time. Unfortunately, one is disliked because of politics, one wants to coach India and the third one has an ego problem.

  442. #442 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 7, 2011 - 12:13 AM

    Salman Butt has confirmed that he has agreed to play one maiden over in agreement with Majeed. So, it is obvious that he had a hand in glove with Majeed then, why deny the rest? Pee hai laikin thori see. JHOOTA. Every time he scored a hundred he used to go in a Sijda on the ground to show to the world how pious and how religious he is and how much religion valued to him. That was just Show Biz, the real side is he is the gang leader of the spot fixing ring. Majeed confirmed that he was the greediest of all and used to ask for three things the moment he used to land in the UK i.e,. Money, Girls and Good Food. Majeed gave them a bonus — fast cars —

  443. #443 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 7, 2011 - 12:32 AM

    khansahab

    If the job of a coach is only to give mental strength then, why not hire a management guru or a fraudia like Deepak Chopra to brainwash them. Apart from giving them the required mental strength, a coach has to be a cricketer who has been through tough situations in his career and share with the players his experience and his knowledge on how to handle tough situations like, when a few wickets are down in succession, when the wicket is bouncy, swinging and favouring fast bowlers or, slow pitch favouring spinners etc., these are the things he should share with them tell them to watch out for the surprises and he could be a bowler or, a batsman and in that case an alternate one is needed. Pakistan in the past already had, a manager, main coach, bowling coach, batting coach, fielding coach, a physio and a Malishiya and a few chamchas in their entourage.

    I agree with you on what you have said about Miandad, Akram and Imran. Imran never had the slightest thought of coaching the team or heading the PCB. The moment he saw the crowd at Karachi after winning the 1992 WC and the reception he got, (like one of Shahid Afridi’s friends) someone gave him the idea that he can be the head of the state. He is still not that material (neither is Zardari or Nawaz) and still carries that inflated ego. The irony is I have seen so many of Imran’s fans or cricket followers still suggest that he should be the Chairman of the PCB. They don’t realize what they are saying. You read DAWN blogs or, crickinfo blogs, more than 50% people say MAKE IMRAN THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PCB and he will resolve all the problems.

    There are some paindoos here who say, ” AGAR PAKASTAN KO KOI BACHA SAKTA HAI TOU WO AMRAN HAI.” NaoZooBillah, Imran Na Howay koi Maseeha howay!

    About Gillani, it is true BUT, you have not mentioned about his son who is reportedly buying the hottest properties in London and owns many prime properties and is already a billionaire in USD, He is just like Shahbaz Sharif’s son Hamza Sharif at the domestic front and he is buying lands and properties in Lahore and in the adjoining areas, in his case he is not only buying the hot properties at cheap prices but, he is actually GAZUMPING the government properties like, parks, roads and pathways etc. and I have seen on TV people are protesting that this was a public park how come you close it down? Or, this was a road that was connecting from point A to point B and that too a very important one in Lahore municipal limits. There were policemen and guards who were standing there, there were barricades and fences and the police were stopping people from using them and there was a notice that this is private property and, TRESPASSERS SHALL BE PROSECUTED. And, that idiot Hamza Sharif is in his mid-twenties. So, basically it is the DAD and the CHACHA who are doing all this.

  444. #444 by tom on October 7, 2011 - 10:38 AM

    Khansahab

    morality is enhanced by religuous practices. if one pays zakat, it enhances the spirit of generosity in him. Fasting teaches patience. but if inner core of a person is rusty, no good deed will make him ethical. thats why are politicians are like that. their spiritually dead. You cannot sow seed on a tiled floor no matter how much manure, water and sunlight you give. If a religuous person is found corrupt, it has to do with his inner self rather than a weakness in religuous principles.

  445. #445 by Namaloom Afraad on October 7, 2011 - 10:58 AM

    Tom

    That is my point too- that religious practices don’t change a person’s inner self. Inner self, conscience, morality etc, call it whatever you want.

    That is not to say people don’t change.

    A lot of people do zakat and keep fast because their family does it, or because they are afraid of the consequences of not doing so in the afterlife. It is not very moral when you do perform those religious practices with that mentality.

    If you do it out of a genuine love for God or genuine pursuit of taqwaa, then it can be linked with morality.

    If I use the language that you or Javed A Khan have used recently on this blog- say, a Western girl who is “nangi” most of the time and drinks alcohol and sleeps around with others can be a more moral person than a Mullah or someone like Taseer’s assassin.

    A person who has never come across “deen” and commits unIslamic acts is a way more moral person than someone who hails from a “deeni” society and commits unIslamic acts.

  446. #446 by tom on October 7, 2011 - 12:09 PM

    khansahab

    When a person performs good deeds with afterllife, it has to do with love of God as afterlife is all about God and spiritual stuff.

    If a western/eastern girl sleeps with other men then ill be concerned for her rather than compare her with the priest in my mosque, and i think more concerned will be her father, husband ,brother and son. This doesnt make sense- if my son drinks hashish, iam not going to compare him with my neighbour’s son who consumes heroine and who is a compulsive liar compared to my son who doesnt lie. This mindset is propagated to give license to such deeds since it hinges on comparison with others. if my son does corruption Iam not going to compare him with fazlur Rehman that he’s more corrupt and religuous so my son is better than him. ill lose my sleep and it is the family which is the first nursery of a child which moulds his character. it has been my observation that majority of my friends who are alcoholic, their fathers are also alcoholic. i dont smoke and one strong reason is my father doesnt smoke. nobility runs in one’s blood. So if there is shit in my backyard ill try to eliminate it instead of searching for houses which are shityards. I think as a human being it is my duty to do good deeds and pass on it to others so that future generations find a better world to live, instead of condoning wrong acts by comparison.
    The world is like an examination hall and wise students focus on getting grades instead of finding candidates poorer than them and using it as an excuse to justify their results.

  447. #447 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 7, 2011 - 1:22 PM

    khansahab

    The basics of Islam includes morality and you cannot say a Nangi, drunked, sleeping with other people is better than a Mullah. First of all which Nangi and which Mullah are you comparing with? Every individual case is different and every act of disobedience is punished in a different way (we don’t know that yet, but the Quran says and Allah knows best) If God has given that Nangi that much sense to make money or enjoy life like that, then it is her moral duty to find out and differentiate between the good and bad and then decide. It is not right to say that O she is non-Muslim and she is ignorant. According to the Quran, this Duniya is Mumlikat-e-Allah and he has specified the rules. In any country the punishment for treason is death. Isn’t this Nangi or others who are knowingly or unknowingly involved in the act of treason?

    Human mind is an enigma it creates logic and provides reasoning for doing bad deeds and we tend to accept it, However all this happens on surface when you lie down in your bed before you sleep and honestly contemplate whether the logic provided by your own mind was right or was it that you wanted to hear it? Most of the time we are prepared and conditioned by our own mind and satisfies ourselves with trivial reasonings. In order to change from one belief system to another, it needs a complete Paradigm Shift, and here I am not talking about the religious set of belief but, the personal set of belief which we all have when dealing with people in real life. Using the same example of Nungi and Mullah. If I have to deal with a Mullah, I might be distracted by the colour or thickness, or length of his beard, or the smell of his Atar (perfume) which may be very strong for me and I may notice food particles between his teeth or, the spicy and desi ghee smell coming from his winter jacket or the bad breath that keeps me a few feet away from him. In doing so I am not listening to what he is actually saying but, I am distracted by these minor interferences. So, the crux of his message or the substance that he was trying to convey to me was over heard by me completely.

    On the other hand “IF” I had to come across a Nangi, who wants to lure me, I would be distracted in a more different way perhaps leering at her cleavage or, the physical aspects of her being acceptable or not, whether she could be negotiated under reserve or not? (negotiated under reserve is a banking terminology used in Letter of Credits) Whether it is worth to pay her or spend time with her? Perhaps I am also thinking that the perfume she is wearing is 5 Channel, Dolce et Gabana or Christian Dior Noir, whatever. The point is here I am distracted in a different way and I already presume in what she is interested and what she wants or, how much she wants. Still, I am leering at her, because it is a man’s nature. OR,

    In both cases, I might simply ignore them and walk away with a notion that I already know what they are going to say and what they want? So, for me its a waste of time. Like Jehovah’s Witnesses is another class, they come and knock at your door and when you open the door, they don’t know what to talk about? And, you are staring at them and they are staring at you and in the end he / she gives you a pamphlet and goes away! 😀

  448. #448 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 7, 2011 - 1:25 PM

    khansahab

    Taseer’s assassin Qadri is a different case, he needs to be punished……… PERIOD.

    The irony is when he was being taken from the court to the jail, reportedly some people were showering ROSE PETALS OVER HIM, or on the car, or on the way, whatever! What a shame that these people have no morals and no value for someone’s life.

  449. #449 by Namaloom Afraad on October 7, 2011 - 1:49 PM

    Tom

    Good deeds must be performed because they are good and because they are right. It should not have anything to do with the concept of “gain” or profit whether in this life or after.

    if God has created a reward system for those who commit good deeds then surely we must leave the assessment of the goodness to God.

    If Islam is all about “giving” why has this concept of gaining intervened in religion? You might say that one must give in this life to gain in the afterlife, but again, it is similar to doing something good now to gain reward later.

    Whenever there is the question of “reward”, “gains” or “profit”, selfishness, bias, greed, blackmail and cheating arise. As we are not perfect like God, we are prone to considering life as a game of gains and losses just like how we may run our businesses or professions. I think there is a danger mixing a worldly concept with a spiritual concept. Mankind is too ignorant to understand this, and therefore I am sceptical of the insertion of gains and profit in religion.

    I also don’t feel that life should be lived according to accounting principles of debits, credits, and balancing our ledgers as between our good, bad and neutral deeds. I don’t feel that this very basic human method of accounting should be used to justify “aamaal” and performance of deeds in this life and hereafter. One runs the risk of over simplification, misunderstanding, and forming a very wrong impression of the purpose of life.

    I just feel very uncomfortable with weighing our good and bad deeds with numbers and formulae, and using this commercial/capitalist concept of gains and losses in pursuing our spiritual goals. This is not to say I am anti capitalist, but I definitely do not feel religion should be capitalist either. Religion is neutral- and good deeds must be performed because they are right and that is it, and not because doing them will result in reward and omitting them will result in losses.

  450. #450 by Namaloom Afraad on October 7, 2011 - 1:58 PM

    Tom

    Nowhere in my comment did I say that drinking or promiscuity of consumption of illegal drugs is worthwhile or moral. I accept much of what you say but your understanding of morality has come from your family, your school, your friends and your mosque. Similarly this western nangi girl’s understanding has come from her environment.

    She does not have the benefit of the recognition that you have that her deeds are morally bad. There is a chance that there is a lot of promiscuity, drugs etc in her house, neighbourhood, friends or parties which she attends. She does come into contact with priests and religious minded people like you do.

    This was my argument that man is the product of his environment. A sinner in a non religious environment is better than a sinner in a religious environment.

  451. #451 by Namaloom Afraad on October 7, 2011 - 2:03 PM

    Javed A Khan

    If this nangi is committing acts of treason then why is it that, a lot of the nangi community converts to Islam WHEN they come into contact with decent Muslims?

    Why is Islam the fastest growing religion in the world but particularly in the West?

    Of course it is because the people who did not know much about religion and getting to know about religion and they are liking this kind of life. “Hidayah” was absent from their lives earlier.

    The Church has failed to convince people in the beauty or meaning of religion and hence the nangi did not even know about the history of Christianity or what it preaches. She will probably know more about the history of Christianity from Muslims than she would from Christians.

    Why criticise the hot girl if she has not come in contact with any aspect of religion before?

  452. #452 by Namaloom Afraad on October 7, 2011 - 2:10 PM

    Z Haider was ridiculed by people including the supposedly honest Shahid Afridi, but the PCB must have paid more attention to his story.

    His innings of 88 odd was nothing short of excellent- why would such a player jeopardise a potentially promising career and that too in the middle of a tour?

    Now that we are hearing that there is rampant match fixing and corruption in Pakistan cricket and the Subcontinent gambles $50 billion on betting, shouldn’t that be some consolation for Haider?

    Zulqarnain Haider returns to first-class cricket

    For the first time since fleeing Dubai on the eve of an ODI, Zulqarnain Haider is back playing first-class cricket. He kept wicket for Zarai Taraqiati Bank Limited in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy Division One on October 6 – taking three catches on the first day of the match against Faisalabad – and said it felt like he was “starting from scratch”.

    Haider infamously went missing during Pakistan’s series against South Africa in the UAE in November 2010. He later said he had flown to London because he had received death threats from bookies in Dubai and simultaneously announced his retirement from international cricket. However, he returned to Pakistan in April this year and in May said he wanted to abandon his retirement.

    Haider is now intent on reviving his career but says he has no regrets about the accusations he made of match-fixing being rampant in cricket. “I know I almost put my career at stake for which I have no regret,” he told ESPNCricinfo. “In fact, I have inspired upcoming players to speak up against happenings around them instead of just going with the flow.”

  453. #453 by tom on October 7, 2011 - 2:12 PM

    Khansahab

    (ive some guests to cater; hence ill be brief and join you later for a detailed discussion on this matter coz its not a simple matter)

    I stated at the start of my comment that ill be concerned for that girl- obviously i wont be comfortable with her antics and ill try to establish the reason behind her exploits; this is what i mean by concern. otherwise My comment would have been to hell with that slut, let her warm beds of other men etc. Yes it could be her family, her friends whatever but no way ill give her a stamp of approval or rate her higher than a xyz mullah.

    Regarding your point about profit or gain, thats the way God has created us humans. we need water, food ,air, and other countless bounties. A baby is dependent upon his parents even for a sip of water, he ultimately grows into a man but he maintains a transactional relationship with society- good for good, bad for bad. then finally old age comes, again dependency ensues and again a baby like state. We humans are like that and we always need certtain physical and spiritual items for our mental and physical survival. See we are dealing with God who conceptually doesnt have any need, doesnt eat or sleep while we have all these requirements so it is a transactional relationship but the ultimate prize is recognition ,love and union with God- thats the highest prize.

    PS : I and Javed used similar language??( haha)… could you be specific?

  454. #454 by Namaloom Afraad on October 7, 2011 - 2:17 PM

    Tom

    I just meant that you used the word “western” and JAK used the word,”nangi” and I combined the two.

    Anyway man I have plenty of sympathy for a girl if she is hot but none for an ugly Mullah 😉

  455. #455 by Namaloom Afraad on October 7, 2011 - 2:31 PM

    Tom,

    Perhaps you would elaborate on your point about “transactional relationship” because I didn’t understand that paragraph and how it links with my theory.

    This is just theorisation for the moment and neither of what we are discussing changes our namaz and rozey etc.

    Everyone has their own standard of conscience and their unique personal relationship with God.

  456. #456 by Namaloom Afraad on October 7, 2011 - 3:05 PM

    PCB boss Butt’s tenure worst period seen by Pakistan cricket

    Karachi, Oct 7(ANI): The tenure of Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Chairman Ijaz Butt is the worst period ever seen by Pakistan cricket, former captain Moin Khan has said.

    Butt’s three-year term, which started on October 8, 2008 after the then board head Nasim Ashraf resigned, will be completed at the end of this week.

  457. #457 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 7, 2011 - 5:36 PM

    1. The Nangi may not be the product of the environment but, of a situation. I know some well to do western girls from good family background and good schooling and, some even educated at Uni level, even working in hospitals, they are in this business but, discreetly and are doing it in a more glorified way and they say, they are doing this because of financial problems and stress.

    This happens in India and Pakistan also. When I went to Islamabad to meet some banker friends who are at the top positions now I had lunch with them and, I saw a few young beautiful girls (staff members) flirting with them and even trying to get my attention by asking questions about Canada and opportunities in Canada and one asked directly, “Do I have a chance there?” Can you sponsor me?” This was not just a jovial comment. She actually meant it and came to see me alone and asked me if she can give her CV? I dunno what her intentions were but, I told her to apply through proper channel.

    2. The gori girls who come in contact with Muslim boys are not the Nangi ones, they already have a decent background and they are well educated and when they are approached or they ask questions themselves and if they get correct or satisfying answers they take interest in Islam and that is how it goes on…… not a Nangi from a brothel or her apartment would immediately change her religion, why would she? She is perhaps making $1000 per day.

    Take the case of Yvonne Ridley when she was in Jail, Mullah Omar told her that he will free her but, on one condition. She said, I was so desperate to go I would have accepted any condition. And, when I asked him, what am I supposed to do? He said, READ the Quran once with translation and promise me now that you will read and I will let you go. She said, she laughed at it and she was released. She was received like a celebrity and then she thought about Mullah Umar and said to herself what the heck? I had promised him and he had let me go, so why not read it? And we all know the story now they think she was brainwashed by Mullah and convinced her to open a Madarsah. Whatever they may say, some people know the truth. And that is why it is one of the fastest growing religions in the world.

  458. #458 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 7, 2011 - 5:39 PM

    Aaj Raat Oct. 07, Ijaz apni BUTT pay soye ga nahee, Ondha para rehay ga…….. Tassavur-e-Khanam kiyeh howay! 😀

  459. #459 by Namaloom Afraad on October 7, 2011 - 6:00 PM

    Javed A Khan

    If this story about Mullah Omar is true then it is very strange because, he is not a Muslim. Islam does not teach conspiracy to commit acts of terror. How many people must he have killed due to his evil psyche and agenda?

  460. #460 by Namaloom Afraad on October 7, 2011 - 6:05 PM

    Javed A Khan

    The reason why I used the word “nangi” was because you had used it a few days ago to describe women of the West who do not dress conservatively. At least that is what my interpretation was of how you used this word- this was when we were discussing Naqab and Hijab.

    Of course if one talks about the hookers and escorts that is a completely different argument altogether. They are found in every society including Pakistan. Even in Pakistan girls from good families and educational background sell their bodies to become richer or more successful. It happens in every society.

    Just consider the example of Kashmala Tariq, an educated, above-average looking woman who was accused by Firdous Awan for rising through the ranks through “prostitution” and through someone’s “bed”. This claim may be false but it has not been negated by Tariq or anyone else. Is it because of the extremity of the claim or because there could be some truth to the accusation?

  461. #461 by tom on October 7, 2011 - 6:28 PM

    Khansahab

    You seem more concerned about a naked woman than a repulsive, ugly mullah. well I hope you end up preaching and converting rather than preached and converted.
    on a serious note, may be the Mullah also became corrupt due to family, friends etc (i know some examples). So shouldnt he get some attention

    Your query about religion being based upon a reward and punishment mechanism is raised by some quarters. its not that difficult to understand. Consider case of a boy whose just crossed his teens and wants a car. His father promises on condition if he studies properly, has a good conduct etc. is there any problem with thast? same way God reward and punishes his creations. For good deeds reward in this world and that world and same for evil deeds.

    You consider it a trade off but its slightly different than the worldly model. see in the world we live we are all dependent upon each other. the father rewards the son but he also wants him to be independent so that he can support him when father gets old. But God has no limitations. He created man so that he could reward him and manifest his powers. What is right and what is wrong is described by a code which we call religion. Consider rewards as an incentive for good deeds and punishment as a deterrent for bad acts. Why do we have courts, police, military. arent these agents to control and to punish evil doers. Similarly, if someone works hard and contributes to a society or an organization, he’s rewarded. Now in your world we wont have crime because its wrong so no need for police, courts etc and likewise no reward for good acts bercause good is good- no point in doing good because of lust for prize. but it aint possible. can you envision such a world? Thats very idealistic and unreaslistic.

  462. #462 by tom on October 7, 2011 - 6:31 PM

    Accusations about Kasmala are raised by many politicians and her response is very meek- hardly one notices any confidence. She gives the impression of being exposed to say the least.

  463. #463 by Namaloom Afraad on October 7, 2011 - 6:47 PM

    Tom

    I heard the following in a mushaira:

    Shaikh duniya mai sajda karta hai……

    Hoor jannat mai kaanp jaati hai……

  464. #464 by tom on October 7, 2011 - 8:07 PM

    Khansahab

    Is the Shaikh a repulsive, ugly mullah or a clean shaven ,denim wearing guy?

    We all know about the hoor, so that doesnt beg a question

  465. #465 by tom on October 7, 2011 - 8:16 PM

    mubaligh to bharpoor waaz kartaz hae

    par nangi neeyat bhaanp jati hae

    irtiaash se zuban to nahi rukti

    par shawat aqal par chaa jati hae

  466. #466 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 7, 2011 - 11:15 PM

    khansahab

    According to Firdaus Awan, Kashmala jumps into someone’s bed, whereas, this Majj, if she jumps into someone’s bed, not only the bed will crash, but the guy will run away from the scene never to be seen again. In simple words, FARDOZE is a jealous woman and she has no brings.

  467. #467 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 7, 2011 - 11:35 PM

    On the subject of reward and punishment. Forget about Deen and Duniya or Akhirat, right here, right from our school days, if we do not perform we fail, that is a punishment and if we do better we get promotion, that is a reward. Irrespective of what Islam says, in every single religion parents try to tell their kids to behave, if they behave they get a cookie, a chocolate or a toy, a movie whatever. In sports, you fail you are dropped is that a reward? Well Misbah and Malik are super humans and they get JANNAT BIBI KI Parchees 😀

    Non Muslims have made a hoopla about this reward and punishment in Islam by saying Muslims encourage their kids by convincing them, if you blow-up yourself with a bomb and kill the infidels you will get a key to the Jannat and the Hoors are waiting for you! The Mullahs may have initiated the concept i,.e, to achieve their goals but, the media has highlighted it and blown it out of proportion. That Mullah who was describing about Hoors like a Pornography scene is on you tube, before that, they all used to say such things, no one noticed their blabbering. Basically there is a lot of Jihalat in the society and even in the West it is the same, just because they speak English (which is their mother tongue) doesn’t mean they are knowledgeable, I will give you an example of how our desis get impressed by goras.

    A few years ago someone I know took me to a posh hotel where a group of people organized a meeting and they were showing rosy pictures about how they become rich, its that pyramid scheme or the Ponzi scheme where the top five six people make money and run away and the rest are stuck with their hopes! When that gora (accompanied by 2 Indian Hindus) was blabbering that he fulfilled his dream through this business and was showing photographs of his big house, farm, Mercedes 500 SEL etc etc. I asked where is the business registered? He said, one is in Bahamas and the other is in Cayman Islands, Luxemburg etc., and we have about 6 companies in different countries, I said, do you have any balance sheet of this company? Sure we do but, I don’t have it here. So, you make a Consolidated Statement of Accounts? WHAT IS THAT? HE WAS THE CEO OF THAT PONZI SCHEME.You can see how much he knows, that he never head Consolidated Statement of Accounts. Within one year he ran away and people have lost millions of dollars mostly vulnerable desis and a few non-desis.

  468. #468 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 8, 2011 - 11:12 AM

    Shoaib sells the drama

    The furores artfully drummed up to hawk this book might obscure that it’s a cracking read. More’s the pity

    Saad Shafqat

    October 8, 2011

    The first thing you realise when you read Shoaib Akhtar’s autobiography is that much of the media reaction to it is a distraction from the book’s true merits. Yes, he has admitted to ball-tampering, delivered questionable opinions on Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid, and blasted some of the high priests of Pakistan cricket. But he has also said a great deal that is more interesting, more important, and evidently more heartfelt.

    As a device to enhance your pleasure of the game, this book delivers. Perhaps the most absorbing, at times even riveting, parts of it are the first four chapters, which detail Shoaib’s ordeals before he became a celebrity. He was born into modest circumstances, a sickly child who at one point nearly died of whooping cough. The family struggled with money and would sometimes go hungry.

    Despite the financial constraints, his parents worked hard to instill upright values in the children and ensure them an education. Shoaib tells us he was an ace student, and also a natural prankster. As a result, he was frequently in trouble. The pattern of conflicts that marked his international career was set early on.

    Cricket did not become a focus until his teenage years, when Shoaib’s passion for bowling fast was unleashed. Before that, he played informal street games, including gilli-danda, and ran a lot – everywhere, aimlessly – because it made him feel free. Once he discovered cricket, he was drawn to role models, finding instant inspiration in Imran Khan’s dynamic and towering figure. At the Pindi Club he saw his idols Imran, Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis practise under lights. That was when he made a personal vow to don the Pakistan colours.

    All through the book Shoaib confronts his bad-boy image head-on, but his reflections are unlikely to sway anyone. He admits having little patience for rules and regulations, resents being preached to, and hates restrictions of any kind. He complains about never having had a proper mentor, but more likely it would not have been possible for even the most well-meaning mentor to get through to him.

    His self-indulgent nature comes across loudly, as we are told of his love for money, girls, and even his own company. Speed, above everything, is his true love, and garners a long chapter by itself. All this underscores his ability to polarise. Shoaib’s supporters will find him refreshingly honest; his detractors will deride him for confirming their worst assumptions.

    When we come to the chapters covering his international career, it is disappointing to see a lack of serious introspection. All his great spells are glossed over, leaving the connoisseur unfulfilled. You keep expecting to be placed inside the fast bowler’s head as he psycho-analyses the batsman, adjusts the field, and contemplates his wicket-taking plans, but it never happens. Shoaib could have entertained his readers with a ringside view of these intricacies; it feels like a golden opportunity lost. Also slightly disappointing are the book’s occasional typos and misspellings. The persistent insertion of a hyphen between “T” and “20” is especially grating.

    Nevertheless the overall package is a highly enjoyable one. Co-author Anshu Dogra has polished the material into a coherent and flowing narrative, yet still allowed Shoaib’s first-person voice to be heard clearly. Urdu and Punjabi phrases are interspersed here and there, conveying the thought precisely and to the understanding reader’s great amusement.

    Anecdotes, often the choicest part of a memoir, are peppered throughout. There are accounts of Shoaib in college as he drives a motorbike through the principal’s office, gets suspended for playing cricket in front of the girls’ building, and convinces a channa wala to serve him free meals because one day Shoaib will be a famous cricketer.

    Shoaib tells us about the anxiety of appearing for domestic cricket trials in Lahore, and the joy of catching the eye of Zaheer Abbas. We learn how, just before breaking into Test cricket, he spent an emotionally wrenching period in Karachi rooming with his buddy Saqlain Mushtaq when they were struggling cricketers and the city was in turmoil.

    The book’s tone is sometimes conversational, sometimes argumentative, with seamless transitions into languid storytelling one minute, breathless rhetoric the next. In this, the narrator sounds every bit the Shoaib Akhtar we know from his public persona.

    Every now and then there is also some touching human moment – getting tongue-tied when an attractive Irish girl starts a conversation in a bar, buying his first car, looking up an old benefactor after becoming a star, revisiting old haunts in his hometown of Rawalpindi.

    Naturally there is a good deal of score-settling as well, some of which – including targeted jabs at the likes of Wasim Akram, Javed Miandad, and Tendulkar – has been the subject of recent news cycles. Among all these, I found the description of Shoaib’s administrative duel with former PCB chairman Nasim Ashraf particularly valuable. The drama is vividly sketched over several pages as Shoaib struggles and eventually succeeds in getting his PCB-enforced ban reversed by pulling political strings. His account provides sharp insight into Pakistan cricket’s backroom ploys and validates a great deal of drawing-room chatter.

    All said and done, you have to commend the man for a job well done
    . The very appearance of his book is a feat in itself: written output from Pakistan’s cricketers has been sparse. Shoaib may have carried an image of carefree indiscipline for most of his career, but he has certainly demonstrated he has the discipline to produce a book with impact. In this he has outdone several other famous cricketing names from Pakistan.

    Controversially Yours
    Shoaib Akhtar

  469. #469 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 8, 2011 - 11:17 AM

    I have a lot of respect for SAAD SHAFQAT for being honest, fair, straightforward and his analysis are always very correct, he has expressed his views AFTER reading AKHTAR’S book, Controversially Yours and I have copy pasted his article. Please read it and it will give you a little more in-depth knowledge to the book which the Indian media is trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. The proof of the pudding is in eating, so likewise before even reading his book ALL the Indians including that itch Lata Mangeshkar attacked Shoaib because reportedly he has challenged their god Tendulkar.

    I would like to thank Mr. Shafqat for not only reading it but, also sharing his views with a lot of cricket fans and supporters of cricket, (I am not saying Shoaib’s fans or his supporters) and clearing some of the doubts that have been planted by the aggressive Indian media.

  470. #470 by Namaloom Afraad on October 8, 2011 - 11:52 AM

    Javed A Khan/Tom

    I understand the basis of the reward and punishment system in religion but I don’t support it. That was my argument. Again, by discussing parents rewarding their children or teachers rewarding students with good marks etc to justify the purpose of life, people are mixing the spiritual, the divine with the worldly. That is what I am against.

    I don’t believe the purpose of life should be portrayed with reference to rudimentary human values, decisions and emotions.

    This is why the judgment of which action is reward-worthy or otherwise must be left with God and we must only focus on right and wrong and detach any consideration of reward and punishment.

  471. #471 by Namaloom Afraad on October 8, 2011 - 12:01 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I agree that Mr Shafqat has done the right thing by reserving judgment until he has read the book. This is what I said from day one and recently a Pakistani newspaper also write an article asking why people are providing their opinions without actually reading the book.

    However, Shafqat has not mentioned WHAT Akhtar has written about Tendulkar.

    I reiterate that if the Indian media has portrayed the question that how does one feel about Akhtar saying SRT was scared of him, that is a different question to how one would react to saying that SRT was scared on one or two occasions. That is the crucial question.

    Also, the fair way to anaylse this is to look at Akhtar’s character and performance and Tendulkar’s calibre in conjunction with the Indian reaction. The three aspects are inextricably linked. If Wasim Akram, Waqar, Afridi or Imran Khan would have criticised SRT then I would support their view more than someone like Akhtar who has a serious complex and credibility problem.

    We are looking at three extremes here- Akhtar as an extremely stupid and cheap person, Tendulkar as an extremely gifted batsman and Indian media and public who were extremely unreasonable in their reaction.

  472. #472 by Namaloom Afraad on October 8, 2011 - 12:07 PM

    Haider is right about Akhtar and wrong about Afridi. Afridi has always given public statements against PCB and fellow players whether it was about politics within the team, the board or anything else.
    I was disappointed that Afridi did not speak earlier about match fixing, but it was the PCB’s job to highlight this and take action.
    Meanwhile Akhtar never chose to express his views about Wasim, or Ijaz Butt or team politics until he wrote his book because his objective is to maximise sales, not to improve the situation with PCB or Pakistan cricket in general.

    Haider lashes out at Afridi, Akhtar

    Pakistan’s controversial stumper, Zulqarnain Haider’s return to first-class cricket has been marked with controversy after he lashed out at some seniors including former captain Shahid Afridi and retired pacer Shoaib Akhtar for their comments on Pakistan cricket and PCB.

    Haider, who has been playing in the ongoing Quaid-e-Azam Trophy, took a dig at Afridi and Akhtar, criticising them for giving statements after they retired from the national team.

    “Now that they are retired and out of contention they are giving critical statements about Pakistan cricket, the Board and our cricket culture. Why say all this now? Why not when they were playing?,” asked Haider.

    “I just feel that once you have played for so long for your country and retired, you should be careful while giving such statements,” he added.

    Haider took more pot shots at both Afridi and Akhtar, stating that unlike his seniors, he took a stand when he was playing for Pakistan and was at the beginning of his career.

    “I gambled everything including my career. I am not like Afridi or Akhtar, who are criticising the system now and everything else about Pakistan cricket after being done with their careers and knowing they can’t make comebacks,” he said.

    Haider also said that the players who earn a lot of money and respect from Pakistan cricket must in turn learn to respect and accept the system.

    Reacting to Haider’s statements, the Pakistan Cricket Board said that although the wicketkeeper was not contracted with them but all players appearing in the Quaid Trophy had to adhere to a strict code of conduct.

    “Players are not encouraged to give statements other than on their own performances and the match. I think the match and team officials have had a word with Haider over his statements,” a board official said.

    The PCB had cancelled Haider’s contract and banned him after he ran away to London. Haider rocked the cricket world last year in November when he fled the Pakistan team hotel in Dubai [ Images ] during the One-day series against South Africa, claiming his life was under threat from the betting mafia.

    He fled to London without informing the team management and claimed asylum there but after months of giving statements against the PCB and teammates, he returned home last April on the assurance of interior minister Rehman Malik that the government would look after his security.

    With the minister taking keen interest in his case, the PCB disciplinary committee also just imposed a fine of half a million rupees on Haider and put him on probation but cleared him to play domestic cricket again on humanitarian grounds.

    After failing to find a spot in his home team, Lahore, Haider finally managed to find a place in the Zarai Taraqyati Bank team.

    Haider said he is still hopeful of making a comeback to the national team one day.

    “The first step was to play first class cricket and I am doing that now. Hopefully with time I will be back to my normal cricketing self and try to improve my game to impress the selectors. I am still passionate about cricket,” he said.

  473. #473 by Namaloom Afraad on October 8, 2011 - 12:19 PM

    Mohsin Khan showing why he is a danger to Pakistan cricket by praising a mediocre batsman who single handedly lost Pakistan the 2011 World Cup:

    Mohsin says he can get along with skipper Misbah

    Pakistan’s new cricket coach Mohsin Hasan Khan feels that nothing will go wrong between skipper Misbah-Ul-Haq and him during their upcoming series against Sri Lanka.

    Unlike his predecessor Waqar Younis and captain Shahid Afridi who could not get along resulting in the latter’s abrupt retirement, Mohsin says he has a great respect for Misbah as a cricketer and holds him in high esteem.

    He is a thorough professional, somebody who is fully aware of his job to get the best out of his players,’ Mohsin told The News Thursday.

    ‘As coach, I’m confident that I can add to the equation and am looking forward to working with Misbah and the other boys,’ said the former Pakistan opening batsman.

  474. #474 by Namaloom Afraad on October 8, 2011 - 12:22 PM

    This just shows the defeatist mentality of the Pakistan public in how Misbah has been let off for his clearly selfish and inexplicable performance in the WC semi final.

    They think the work was done because Pakistan reached the top 4.

    They don’t want to think about the reason behind why they could not reach the top 2.

  475. #475 by Namaloom Afraad on October 8, 2011 - 3:03 PM

    Younis and Misbah the fittest: Mohsin Khan

    Two of Pakistan’s most senior players are also its fittest, according to chief selector and now interim coach Mohsin Khan.

    Khan says Misbah-ul-Haq (37) and Younis Khan (34) have set the benchmark for others in the team and their motivation should serve as an inspiration to the younger players.

    “I don’t think age is now a major issue as long as the player is very fit and hungry for cricket. Because it is difficult to hide a player who is not 100 per cent fit in international cricket and in every format of the game,” Mohsin said.

    “Even at their age they (Misbah and Younis) are more fit than some of the younger players which is a tribute to them.”

  476. #476 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 8, 2011 - 3:40 PM

    khansahab

    First of all about reward and punishment. What you are saying here and what I see and understand from your point of view is you seems to have slight confusion or should I say a different perspective from us. We all say that its only and only Allah will decide whom He will punished and whom He will reward. For that, He has given moral guidelines and principles of behaving in our life through Quran and Sunnah. Everyone, (except some of the uneducated and uncouth people) I mean all the scholars and Alims say that Allah will decide who will be rewarded and who shall be punished. HE also emphasized that if you follow Quran and Sunnah with an open mind and a clean heart, it is very likely that ye shall be rewarded in the life after death or, hereafter. Still humans don’t know and some make fun about this notion but Muslims ought to have faith in their religion hence they believe in it.

    Don’t you see that in this world too, there are laws made by people, while the laws differ from country to country but, there are lawyers who present the case, judges who hear the case and make judgments about who is right and who is wrong> And accordingly people are punished, sometimes one may be innocent but still punished and sometimes a culprit gets away because of his connection or by bribing and this man made law and it is a man’s judgement which can be wrong. Whereas, according to Islam, Allah is not only a better judge but the best judge. And HE knows whom to reward and whom to punish.

    And, it is not from today but, it is a centuries (even BC days) old culture that parents have always tried to deal with their kids by reminding them of reward and punishments, do you think parents act like God? If we deal like that with our children then are we acting God? No, this is the way life has been going on since ages, and it is a process to keep them on the right track i.e., to be good. On one hand you accept parents and teachers role and on the other hand you oppose or disagree with the notion that: “This is why the judgment of which action is reward-worthy or otherwise must be left with God and we must only focus on right and wrong and detach any consideration of reward and punishment.”

    Why not? How come you accept parents and teachers role or even your boss’s role who can punish you at the time of annual assessment or, evaluation and give you no bonus whereas, you deserve one, deserve more than others but, you are being punished because you are not a “Yes Man” still you accept this flawed system, In other words we are trying to be reactive and not proactive. Since we cannot see and no one has ever produced a concrete proof (like scientific proof) that this is what happens in afterlife hence we don’t believe, we believe in what we see. Believers of all the religions have to have faith in God, His Book and His prophets. As regards questioning, I always say that you can always question unlike many uneducated or semi-educated people say, NO, NO, don’t ever question about Quran i.e. if you don’t understand the meaning. If you don’t understand the meaning of something, you must always ask questions without making fun of the religion or by passing derogatory comments because our mind does not accept that notion does not mean one should ridicule the religion?.

    I love to mention this quote whenever I get a chance: “IF a purblind nocturnal mouse sees not the sunlight it is not the later to be blamed.” I am not implying you are a purblind nocturnal but, trying to make an analogy that there are many people who many be older and more educated than you are yet, they do not have that much knowledge as you have, it is true and these are my feelings. So, if you try to rethink what I am telling you, perhaps you might think differently and you are most welcome to ask as many questions as you can or, you have and I am certain that you are asking question to satisfy the thirst of your knowledge and without any malice or ill intentions and this is because I know you so well by now.

  477. #477 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 8, 2011 - 3:51 PM

    On MoSun Khan

    Didn’t we all discuss this on this blog before? And have we not agreed that Mohsin Khan was OK till the time he was made Chief Selector of the Pakistan cricket team? And, The day he was appointed he became a puppet and HIS MASTER’S VOICE ka doggy. He has no opinions of his own, he only wants to please Ijaz Butt and his cronies so that he can maintain his job and stay in the limelight. When Ijaz says, Gud Buoy MoSun, Roll Over..…. and he does that. You will see that one day when Ijaz Butt is gone and he is still in the PCB under any position, he will talk against him. Basically he is a DURPHONK aadmi and has no opinion of his own.

    It is a known fact that when you are 17-18 and up to the age of 24-25 you are at your physical best and after that the body and its reflexes are not the same. So, it is obvious when he is saying that Misbah and Younus are more fit than others who are younger than them. If he is comparing them with Danish Kaneria, Mohammad Yousuf, Saeed Ajmal who are born lethargic then, he should not forget that Ramiz Raja was a famous KHUDDA FIELDER during his time him along with Tauseef, Iqbal Qasim, Mushtaq Ahmad Moulvi were the lousiest fielders of that era.

    Fazal Mahmood the great, never bent down to pick up the ball someone always did that for him. If age is not the issue then, select a team from the oldies and be happy!

  478. #478 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 8, 2011 - 3:54 PM

    Last night and a few more nights to come Ijaz Butt must have had sleepless nights. I am sure Zardari will extend his term for another 6-12 months, its just a matter of time we will hear this announcement then, many people who are anxious at the moment will sit back and deplore his extension as long as he is there as the Chairman of the PCB.

  479. #479 by tom on October 8, 2011 - 4:44 PM

    Khansahab

    Essence of spirituality is manifested in true love between human beings and basically thats how we come to recognise and love our creator. Hence the relationships we have in this world are not worldly but spiritual. How one finds God? you dont find him in jungles, or mountains or deserted places, you find Him amongst his creations.

    Why we shed tears when someone beloved dies? isnt that spirituality or its worldly? When a baby cries, his mother responds to his needs. how one should describe this model? a need based or spiritual based. What compels a mother to wash and clean her child’s filth on a chilly winter night. This is what spirituality is and without doubt motherhood is the strongest manifestation of God’s love. Thats how God sends his love to a newborn- in the form of his mother. Now if the baby had been independent, he wouldn’t have required his mother. In effect requirements lead to the door of bondage, love and spirituality. I use the same model to explain relationship between human beings- it is intentionally designed by the creator as transactional based ie give and take. that leads to interaction and interaction leads to good or bad deeds. Saints say that God could have given ” Rozee” directly but he preferred that it should be interaction based (human via human) as this would lead to a model where rewards and punishments materialize. Baby initially gets it via his mother, then father, and then the society. Look at it from another perspective- you will find it leads you to the creator and this what spirituality is all about. You have to blend worldly interactions with your intentions to achieve spirituality or become evil- a choice known as free will.

  480. #480 by Namaloom Afraad on October 8, 2011 - 11:15 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I agree entirely with the first three paragraphs of your comment.

    I don’t understand your where the next paragraphs are going.

    You have mentioned about ridiculing religion but I am not ridiculing Islam. I may have a different interpretation to religion than you.

    I believe that whereas one Muslim capable of deep thought and analysis should be able to question some interpretation of Islam, no one should declare that they understand God or the afterlife better than any other given person. To do this is to assume a very privileged status (a more privileged status than considering oneself has capable of deep thought and analysis) which may not be there in truth. And whatever the truth is, God only knows- we can only analyse issues and provide our interpretations.

    I consider I am capable of deep thought and analysis but I do not think of myself as someone with the answer to the purpose of life or the niceties of the afterlife.

    Of course I believe in the Day of Judgment and Heaven and Hell but I don’t believe a person should spend life before death building up his debits, credits and balancing ledgers of his “aamaal”. I think “niyat mai khalal ho jaata hai”.

    The pursuit of deep thought and analysis should lead a person to actions which are morally good or neutral, but not morally bad. And I consider it is morally bad for someone to link any SELFISH quality with religion and religious actions. It is selfish and self serving to do good because one expects a reward. Good must be done because it is the good thing to do and because it is RIGHT. If the reward is in a person’s destiny, or if God wants to reward, it is up to God.

    I think one must not ASSUME how God will judge a certain way because His way of doing things, may be a VERY DIFFERENT way to how human beings do things. What I don’t get is that, if God is a separate entity to human beings, so much so that science cannot prove the existence of God, then WHY do we ASSUME that we THINK we might know how He may judge?

    What if He decides to judge a good deed and punish someone for that good deed?

    Is God morally good? Morally bad? Or morally neutral? What matters is that this higher power exists and is our Creator and the ruler of our lives whether this life or hereafter. Is there any point in deciding to attribute human actions or qualities to Him?

    If God is an evil tyrant (in that how us humans consider/define evil and tyranny by using our limited minds and in our limited method of expression) what can we do about it?

    The problem humans have is to import human-like qualities within God, that is to say, of being like a father, or being caring, or being just, or being morally good, we develop a sense of “ownership” for this higher power and consider Him to be like us. THAT MUST BE SHIRK OF THE HIGHEST ORDER. An entity who is entirely separate and distinct, needs greater respect and recognition than that.

    The vehicle we use to express anything whether it be words, expressions, thought processes etc, is LOGIC. We use logic to connect letters to create words, to write essays, to sing, to dance, to reproduce, to do everything. I am using logic to write this comment but the problem is that, it is man made, and I can at least do God some justice and not pretend that I know HIm. He may well have a different method of doing things than LOGIC (since logic is human), He may have taken a non interventionist role and let science do His work for Him, He may be a sleeping giant- we don’t know.

    This brings me back to a discussion which I had with Bichoo about the purpose of life. I remember I addressed these difficulties and said that, deep thought and analysis leads people to the terrible situation that in reality human beings lack direction in life and the purpose of life. Therefore, in order to seek purpose they need to use human logic and follow a code and a set of beliefs. If they do not do this then their lives serve no purpose because words like “good” “bad” “morality” “order” “law” can have no real merit in them and they can just be man made words in the dictionary.

    A lack of the above qualities means anarchy and basically means that there is no difference in being morally flawless, or going around committing the most deplorable acts.

    In order to prevent this situation where good means the same as bad, and where mankind realises that existence is not worth it, one has to look for some direction. Using human tools and human thought processes one can look to religious texts (where else can they look because every other source of inspiration whether it be any book, song, speech etc is DEFINITELY man made or edited by man or thought by man- the religious text may not entirely be man made at the very least and needs to be given the benefit of this doubt). Again, using human emotions and logic they must come to the conclusion that the Quran must be used as the direction that they need.

    There is plenty of confusion about what the Quran actually says, but that is a different worry altogether.

    The reason why the Quran is probably the correct answer is because it has the following to its credit:

    – unchanged
    – relatively new when looking at religious texts
    – contains some degree of predictions and prophecy, some of which have emerged as frighteningly true
    – recognition of Jesus, Moses, Abraham, and the Abrahamic line of faiths, and respect and reverence for their holy books
    – the historical proofs of the existence of key Islamic figures
    – the recorded fact that the entities or beings that recited the Quranic verses as it was being compiled claimed that the verses and matter have come from God. In other words, it was not one person who claims to be the author of the Quran- whether it came through Hazrat Gibraeel, or Prophet (SAW) or even other people, the claim of the origin of the verses coming directly from God was unanimous.

    It may have been the case that only the Prophet (SAW) recited the Quran and individuals recorded it, and it may have been that Gabriel may have only communicated the verses with the Prophet (SAW) but in any case the origin was always attributed to God.

    So, the deep thought and analysis and genius of man, is possibly ill equipped to determine the purpose of our existence. In the millions of years of human history they haven’t been able to find the answer using anything else than a religious text.

    Of course, all this is man made logic, but at least it prevents people from going insane in trying to find the answer of the purpose of life, or otherwise adopting anarchy where goodness means the same as badness, and nothing actually matters.

  481. #481 by Namaloom Afraad on October 8, 2011 - 11:47 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I’ve read your comment again and you have considered my doubts as “thirst for knowledge and not malice or ill intention” or something like that.

    No one has perfect knowledge and since I follow the same religion as you, and since I don’t need to justify my faith, I don’t even know why it could remotely cross your mind that you should point out that you don’t think I would make such remarks out of malice.

    Why would I be malicious about anything?

    No one has perfect faith but despite my doubts and “thirst for knowledge” I consider myself to be a better Muslim than many. I was expressing my opinion and analysis about some religious practices and I was not seeking someone’s professional opinion.

  482. #482 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 9, 2011 - 2:56 AM

    khansahab

    I did not say you ridicule the religion, read my comment again I carefully choose the word, ONE instead of YOU, so it implies to those who ridicule religion and by that I mean Atheist and Agnostics etc., or people from other religion ridicule a different religion. I think you have totally misunderstood me in that comment. Because, whatever you have said or written, I have already said the same and agreed with you and by saying that you have thirst for knowledge is not buttering you or praising you, why should I? In fact whenever I disagree with you on cricket or any other subject, I do that and it is everyone’s right to agree or disagree with others but, within respect and using some morals and ethics.

    My comment was very general that in Pakistan and even here some people who practice religion by showing the form and NO spirit, i.e., keeping long beard, no mustache, shaven heads, dress code which is above their ankles and trying to impress others by adding phrases like Inshallah, Jazakallah, Alhamdollilah and Mashallah etc., at least 10 times in one sentence. It is good to use those phrases but excessive usage appears artificial and fake. I was referring to them that, they are the ones when you ask them any question to satisfy your thirst for knowledge, they literally try to shut up you by saying, ‘don’t ask these questions because, no one can answer these questions, only Allah knows better.” We all know that Allah knows best because he is our Creator, but he has also said, you are the best of my creations, he has given us Aqal-e-Saleem or, the mind, heart, feelings and knowledge and to differentiate between good and bad. So we better use our grey matter and ask someone more knowledgeable than us to satisfy ourselves rather than blindly following the Imam who is leading the prayers. My reference was to those people and not you and in order to clarify my point of view you, I wrote that at least I know you for so many years by now, so I will not misjudge you. Besides, who am I to judge anyone?

    All those points that you have mentioned I do agree with them the only thing is your way of explaining or expressing them is different from mine and with other bloggers and it is but natural because not even two real brothers have the same way or same words in expressing their views in the exact same words. Like you have mentioned that, you consider yourself a better Muslim than others, I also have the same view about myself, I do not have a beard or show off my UTANGA dress code or try to be artificial in my communication by using those phrases ten times in one sentence and in one breath. I am clean shaven, I wear suits, ties, shalwar Kameez and jeans etc.,

    Some of the hardcore youth consider me as a Farangi and I don’t give them a tosh because, they have acquired the form and lost the spirit of Islam. They don’t say Salams to elders, they don’t stand up when older people enter the room to offer their chair, they sit – actually they don’t sit – they slouch on a sofa as if they have no spine and the stare at you like you are a different species because you wear Kuffar’s dress. They forget that they are living in a Kuffar world and when they have to pay taxes the curse them and the system and when they want free facilities such as medical treatment etc., they don’t thank the system, in fact some of them try to beat the system.

    I think this new generation especially from mid-eighties have gone a little too far, they have no manners, they never say thank you after eating food at your house, they try to escape from the scene asap after eating food, they are there because their parents have asked them to come and there are those who are a little more older than them they decide not to go and meet such uncles and aunties who wear the kuffar dress and wear no hijab so they don’t go to such dinners or parties. Who gave them this right to act like they are the caretakers of this world? Whenever it is prayer time, they insist everyone to join, it is OK, say once and leave it for them to decide. Most people join or stand up for prayers but, then they try to impose their way by trying to lead the prayers and add a few extra duas in the end plus they choose the long verses to impress people and prior to that when they go to the washroom for Wadoo, they mess up the whole toilet, without realizing that it is someone elses’ house and once they come out of it, no one wants to go in. Well, I am not exaggerating but, I have seen this.

    Once I asked one of my friends what is common between a Halaqa and Butter Chicken? He was dumbfounded, I said; both never existed three decades ago. And, both have been created by these young Muslims living abroad i.e., in the UK and North America. During my college days there was no butter chicken, it was created in the West by the Bengali and Mirpuri restaurants so called “Indian Cuisine” to cater the needs of the gora clients and it became popular. Halaqa was also not there when we were in the Uni, it started later and the reason I don’t like Halaqa is because, from among the participants one becomes the Amir and he is like ANDHAON MAY KANA RAJA, he tries to impress others with his Neem Hakeem – Neem Mullah wali knowledge by using a few duas and phrases in Arabic. They deliberately do not want any elderly scholar to attend their Halaqas so that they have control over others. They openly say that they don’t need elderly people to come to their weekly Halaqas. The meticulously go and attend the lectures and seminars by famous religious scholars but, when they come back to their Halaqas they try to add their own colour and their own views in narrating what they have heard.

    The parents let them go to these Halaqas because, they think it is better for them than going to a disco or roaming on the streets. They have no idea what they discuss there and it is for this reason Muslims have got a name tag for breeding extremists. The Halaqa circles have grown in Pakistan too and they are one step ahead of these people i.e., they go on Tableeghi missions also. Once again, there is nothing wrong in doing Tableegh because all the religions they go preaching their religion and converting people but, these people come to our houses at very odd hours like 4:00 a.m. in the morning during the summer time and ring the doorbell and you have never met or seen them before in your life and they ask you to come with them…….. for WHAT? Isn’t it very unethical to do so especially in case if the man of the house is traveling and only his wife and daughter are staying home and there are six men out in your porch and buzzing the doorbell, would she open the door for them or stay scared inside the house? I don’t think this kinda Tableegh happened during Prophet Mohammad’s time or during the Khulfa-e-Rashideen time or, even when I was in school, college or Uni.

    Our people try to go an extra mile to get the so-called sawab, this what they think sawab is to wake up people at 4:00 a.m. and the irony is they have no clue as to whose house it is and who lives there? Imagine how a non-Muslim would react to that whereas, you and I can understand and tolerate them. I have a short temper and I may not tolerate that the second time if they do the same, because imo it is immoral and unethical to do so. Religion does not teach this kinda preaching so, they must first understand the Quran, Hadith and Sunnah before approaching people in their private homes especially at that hour, even if someone is awake to say their Fajir prayers, these people have no right to come to someone’s door and start buzzing the doorbell. I am sure no Alim or scholar would do such an immoral and unethical thing, it is only the uneducated and uncouth people with a little bit of knowledge consider themselves as authority and ThakayDaars of the religion and they try to impose themselves on others.

    I am sure you would say: that is why I insist that morals and ethics are more important, yes they are important but, if you read the Quran, Hadit and follow the Sunnah the emphasis is on morals and ethics. Prophet’s wife Hz. Ayesha when asked to describe the qualities of Prophet Mohammad, she replied, he was a walking, talking example of the Quran. Anyways, the subject of reward and punishment is too complicated to discuss. It is not something that one can discuss this over a blog. This is NOT cricket. 😀

  483. #483 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 9, 2011 - 8:49 AM

    The most hated person in the cricketing world – Ijaz Butt – is waiting for a decision from the most hated politician in the world Zardari. Butt will definitely stay as the most damaging person to the game of cricket world over as Chairman of the PCB shall be continuing his job as the Chairman till Zardari dies or someone kicks him out. This happens only in Pakistan and only among the Pakistani community. I know of a Pakistani guy who remained ACTING CEO of a bank for 8 years and was kicked out by the shareholders. In mosques, over here people get the post of a President of the community mosque, they grab so much power that they dissolve the resolution of the Board, appoint a few Chamchas who are their cronies, and they never hold any elections to choose a new President or Sec. General, never hold any AGM but, run the place on ad hoc management basis and remain in power for years and years until they are thrown out. Then, you hear stories that they have embezzled a few hundred thousand dollars from the community fund. I dunno how many of you have read those stories that appeared in the local newspapers in Toronto about this guy who was managing the affairs of the mosque and used the funds for himself and his family?

    That is why they say, “We are like this Won-Lee” means we will never change. Recently, one of my friends was quoting a dialogue from an Indian film Sholay about the desi mentality and this is what the dialogue is: ” Hum Angrezaon kay zamanay kay Jaylorrrrrrrrrrr, itni badliyoun kay baad bhee hum aaaj tak nahee badlay.” That is the legacy of the British Raj the people of the sub-continent inherited, but in Pakistan it is also combined with local desi thugs and crooks and under the AAR (behind the name of) of religion Mullah Giri is also thriving. Chori, Chickoree and Dakaity is also flourishing. “Her Shaaq Pay Ullu Baitha Hai, Anjaam-e-Gulistan Kya Hoga?” (Ibne Insha)

  484. #484 by Namaloom Afraad on October 9, 2011 - 10:35 AM

    Javed A Khan

    I agree with the points you have used- about others’ flawed and shallow impression of Deen.

    From the way I write it probably comes across that I am not very religious. I am probably not a good practising Muslim and I have more faith in thought rather than rituals.

    Also, my knowledge of life and Deen is totally a product of my own imagination and thought. I have very little knowledge of what the Quran, Hadith says and if my parents or elders have taught me something I have never blindly accepted it as being necessarily deep or thoughtful.

    I don’t think rituals do any harm, provided that they do not change a person’s inner self and turn him into a bigot, so provided that a person is still humble and tolerant, I would feel that prayer, fasting and associated rituals should be followed. Why it is that most of the people who pray 5 times and fast are Mullah minded bigots?

    However one should not feel they own God or are more MORAL because they follow these practices because as I said earlier, morality and physical religious practices are two different things.

  485. #485 by Namaloom Afraad on October 9, 2011 - 10:53 AM

    So Saqlain Mushtaq tried to hit Miandad? Very strange that one can behave in such a way towards not only a senior player but one of the legends of the game. Extremely shameful.

    Book review

    Noman Ansari

    Shoaib Akhtar’s Controversially Yours can be entertaining, rousing and emotive, as well as fairly myopic and highly paradoxical, all at the same time. Not only is it characterised by the same crests and troughs as Akhtar’s sporting career but, also just like his career, this autobiography is regrettably short (takes barely an evening to finish), and doesn’t quite reach its full potential.

    It is also a bit of a jarring read, replete with seemingly random sentences and paragraphs with little transition in between. There are editing issues as well, with new and sometimes unfamiliar characters often presented without introduction. Compared to sports biographies such as Imran Khan’s All Round View or Andre Agassi’s Open, Controversially Yours feels more like a fireside chat with the author, than a great athlete’s autobiography.

    Aside from some views on Brian Lara, and sparse mentions of certain players from the Australian and Indian national teams, the book is shamefully lacking in detailed insight on the international cricketing scene. And while other cricketers’ autobiographies speak of personal and team performances, Shoaib Akhtar’s book speaks mostly of his own match performance, which seems to be a fair reflection of the self-centred spirit of the team he grew in as an international cricketer.

    Wasim Akram, especially, is in the line of fire for what Akhtar sees as unprofessionally selfish behavior, and dirty politics. Shoaib clearly believes that Wasim tried to ruin Waqar Younis’s career, a sentiment Waqar shared with the media during his playing days as well. Akhtar also fires broadsides at a number of Pakistani cricketers and officials, settling scores with those whom he claims had been awful to him while he was still trying to break into the team.

    The juiciest revelations are about how some cricketers, unable to handle the abnormal pressure of playing for Pakistan, develop behaviours that can only be termed, well…aberrant. Akhtar discloses that certain Pakistani cricketers write love letters in their blood, while others turn to alcohol and pills to ward off depression and a few even contemplate suicide. Anger management is apparently an issue with the team, and Akhtar informs us that fistfights often break out in the dressing room. In fact, he tells us that at one point, off-spinner Saqlain Mushtaq, who was rumored to be facing the axe, chased then coach Javed Miandad with a cricket bat in hand. With such madness behind the scenes, it is no wonder the team’s performance is so sporadic. Shoaib Akhtar himself admits to having suffered from instances of depression during his career, and feels that the Pakistan Cricket Board’s unprofessional, reactionary and uncaring attitude, and an inability to manage its players, is to blame.

    A large part of Controversially Yours comes across as an attempt by Akhtar to set the record straight. He bemoans how the media falsely judges him on his reputation alone, and mentions how during one of the darkest moments in his career, he was automatically labeled a rapist, when the actual alleged culprit’s identity was kept hidden by the PCB. So paranoid is Akhtar about being labeled the bad guy that he says, “I thank Allah that I was not part of the World Cup team [when Bob Woolmer died], otherwise I am sure the media would have charged me with murder — charged, not accused.”

    The biggest contradiction lies in how Akhtar presents himself as a man who refuses to “butter the toast” of those in power. Early on in the book, Akhtar writes a completely out of place tribute to the assassinated former leader of Pakistan’s People’s Party (PPP), Benazir Bhutto — the inclusion of which doesn’t make sense at that stage in the book. Later, when Akhtar speaks of being banned for substance abuse, he talks of how he sought the help of President Zardari and Rehman Malik to get back into the team, and the earlier tribute suddenly clicks into place. Also, uncharacteristically for him, he refers to both PPP leaders with the honorific ‘sahab’, and one realises that there indeed are toasts that Akhtar will not hesitate to butter.

    With typical straightforwardness, he freely admits to ball tampering, and claims that it is a regular practice in international cricket, which has led to a lot of fire from critics. This book has been met with a lot of preconceived notions and the same censure that Akhtar complains about facing throughout his cricketing career. But, with a title like Controversially Yours, and released excerpts tailor-made to set tongues wagging, one wonders if he has any right to blame those who come at him with bouncers, when he himself prepared a fast bouncy pitch.

  486. #486 by Namaloom Afraad on October 9, 2011 - 10:59 AM

    Shoaib Akhtar is referring to Asif Zardari as “sahab”. I guess that tells the story 😀

    Actually I don’t blame the media at all for demonising Akhtar because of the type of person he is.

    If the news comes out that a Pakisani player has been accused of rape who would come to your mind straightaway? A self centred, spoiled brat who slapped Bob Woolmer, consistently violated team discipline and was hardly ever fit to represent his country, who hit a fellow cricketer with a bat etc, wouldn’t this person be assumed to be a rapist when you look at his history?

  487. #487 by Namaloom Afraad on October 9, 2011 - 1:39 PM

    “Indian bodies are not designed to bowl fast“: Zaheer Khan

  488. #488 by Namaloom Afraad on October 9, 2011 - 1:41 PM

    Revenge on mind will not help Team India

    Mid-Day

    Mumbai: It was one of the worst defeats for the Indian team in England this summer when they finished without winning a game. They lost the Test series 0-4, ODIs 0-3, one-off T20 international and also surrendered the No. 1 Test ranking.

    On October 14, Mahendra Singh Dhoni’s team will be up against the same opponents – this time in their own backyard. However, not much has changed for the Indian team. Most of their key players are yet to recover from injuries which they suffered during the ill-fated England tour.

    Revenge would definitely be on top of everyone’s mind when Dhoni’s boys take on Alastair Cook’s team in the first one-day international at Hyderabad. However, Indian sports psychologist Dr. BP Bam reckoned the Indian team should not approach the England series with an aim to take revenge.

    “They should forget what has happened in England. It’s a fresh start. Revenge takes you in the past. They should just take their minds off past results. Just like one cannot rest on past laurels, one cannot keep thinking about bad results,” Dr Bam told MiD DAY on Thursday.

    “If they go into the series thinking of taking revenge, it will mean they are still stuck with what happened in England. The team has to move on from there. India came close to winning a few ODIs, but luck was not on their side.

    “Their attempts failed, but the players did not. They should not lose their self-confidence. What happened in the last tournament is not relevant now. To become champions again and remain dominant, one has to learn to erase the past,” added Dr Bam, who has worked closely with Rahul Dravid. He was also the mental conditioning coach of the Indian shooting team for a brief period.

    The Nasik-based sport psychologist said it is important that the Indian team develops the winning attitude in order to bounce back.

    “They’ve to play everything on merit now. They should play to win. That’s the attitude they need to have so that they can bounce back from the slump. The aim should be to displace England from the No. 1 spot,” he signed off.

  489. #489 by tom on October 9, 2011 - 5:28 PM

    Khansahab

    Do you think the bigots that you encountered were like that because they prayed and fasted or there was some other reason. Secondly, do you think their conduct will improve if they stopped praying and fasting. on this blog, Zardari is portrayed to be the biggest scum on Earth. is it due to his prayers or fasting. That man virtually backed out of his pledge on judge’s issue by saying that his words were not QURAN or HADITH which could not be changed. Do you think Zardari is a bigot/ hypocrite because he prays and fasts? Umm.. Sorry but I think there are other reasons.Whether he prays or not, thats not the reason bcoz even if he stops he wont change.

    The truth of the matter is a scum is a scum, a saint is a saint, an angel is an angel and a devil is a devil. These acts simply polish and groom the potential within an individual. Its not the ideology or the practices thats to be blamed; its the perverted mindset which creates problems. once a man wanted to divorce his wife but he didnt wanted to pay haq meher. So he resorted to torture and made life a living hell for his wife. ultimately, the poor lady approached the court for divorce. that asshole said to the qazi he doesnt want to divorce but if she wants he will reluctantly. The lady was so tortured that she still asked for divorce. according to sharia if woman wants divorce she cant ask for haq mehr. The author of the book where I read this episode stated that man fooled the whole system , got rid of the lady and saved his money. But in the divine court on the day of judgement he will be punished.

    Its like someone is blessed with an athletic body. he will join a club and he has to exercise to harness his potential. Now once he becomes a schwarzennger, its upto his nature whether he uses his body for good or bad. If i meet body builders who are scums, I wont blame weight lifting for their shity nature. Their perversion has its roots in their inner psyche. its just like certain medicines work for some and dont for some- its not the medicine but its the chemistry of the body.

  490. #490 by tom on October 9, 2011 - 5:32 PM

    Khansahab

    Shoaib’s buttering of Zardari has ruthlessly exposed him . How shameful and embarrasing. May be he wanyts a ticket for NEXT ELECTION

    Jeay Zardari will be the sequel of Contro…Yours.

  491. #491 by Namaloom Afraad on October 9, 2011 - 6:24 PM

    Tom

    Prayer and fasting should not lead to bigotry. But, people who pray and fast regularly seem to think that only their Islam and actions are valid and correct. Plus, they become too judgmental and think they have some God-gifted licence to criticise and or judge others.

    95% of such religious Muslims I have met are like this. How do you expect me to think otherwise? There is not a maths formula or scientific formula that I can carry out to prove this.

    There have been instances in my life when I have prayed 5 times and tried to follow Islam like how Muslims are supposedly meant to. But, I have not become bigoted. To this end there might be some truth in your observation that a bigot is a bigot and a scum is a scum, but I just find it very striking why bigotry is found so much in praying and fasting Muslims.

  492. #492 by Namaloom Afraad on October 9, 2011 - 7:03 PM

    Interesting perspective coming from a UK newspaper:

    Sachin worship gets silly as Shoaib’s book causes a controversy

    The Guardian

    It is often suggested that Hindus believe there are 330 million gods. This is not the place to delve much further into the accuracy of this claim. Suffice to say that the pantheon of Indian gods is wholly different from the monotheism of Christianity or, for that matter, Judaism or Islam. Just as sunlight cannot have an independent existence from the sun, so a Hindu deity may offer a glimpse of the Supreme Being. Recognise that and perhaps Sachin has a decent case for godlike status after all.

    When I was a kid, I remember my mate Rod’s mother saying something similar about the way a David Gower cover drive lit up her world. But that was only once, and she might have had a sherry or two. Sachin is worshipped daily by millions. During the World Cup, the story goes that there were more bets taken on whether Sachin would retire after the tournament than were laid on all other bets involving the four semi-finalists.

    The former Pakistan fast bowler, Shoaib Akhtar, discovered the extent of Sachin worship when he was promoting his autobiography, Controversially Yours. The merest slight against Sachin caused such howls of protest in India that Shoaib had to cancel a book-promoting session in Mumbai. The wild-haired, wanton, fast bowler from Pakistan had insulted the impeccably-disciplined Brahmin boy. India took offence.

    It was an incident that said much about India’s worship of Sachin and their underlying hostility towards Pakistan. It was an incident that combined cricket, religion, nationalism and politics into one and predictably exploded. But after all the fuss, Shoaib’s comments are disappointingly tame, the most critical excerpt revealed so far just another predictable ghosted observation. This concerns Pakistan’s 2007 series against India:

    “We would have faced a humbling defeat in the series but for the fact that we reined in Sachin Tendulkar. What went in our favour was that Sachin was suffering from tennis elbow! This severely handicapped the great batsman. We managed to psychologically browbeat him. We bounced the ball at him and were able to unnerve him. I returned to the dressing room that day with the knowledge that Sachin was distinctly uncomfortable against me. That was the first time I saw him walk away from me — that, too, on the slow track at Faisalabad. It got my hunting instincts up and in the next match I hit him on the head and he couldn’t score after that.”

    If you are now reading this several days later, your anger now subsided, and having repaired the screen that you smashed into smithereens in initial disgust, many apologies. What angered you?

    Sachin is a “great batsman,” who is “suffering from tennis elbow!” The exclamation mark might be a bit gratuitous, but only English professors would take offence at that. Sachin “backed away”, but care is taken to point out that he had never backed away before. And the evidence is there for all to see on YouTube. It looks like a blow on the helmet to me. It was a quick ball. It happened. Get over it.

    Impressively, there have been enough sane voices in India’s cricket media to make the point.

    Pritish Nandy, in the Times of India, commented of the politically-enforced cancellation: “This is increasingly becoming the tragedy of today’s India. There is simply too much of free-floating outrage that politics finally exploits.”

    Suresh Menon, an Indian cricket columnist wrote wisely: “Sachin Tendulkar is being used once again — this time by political loudmouths so keen on protecting his good name that they think nothing of throwing dirt on the fair name of our democratic country. ‘Thou Shalt Not Criticise Sachin’ has, especially in recent years, become a commandment that is at once silly and embarrassing. The cancellation of the book release because he criticised Mumbai’s favourite son should make us all hang our heads in shame.”

    Sachin, incidentally, has retained a dignified silence, as he has done so often. What does he make of all this adulation? Any sane and intelligent person would find its most extreme manifestation quite ridiculous.

    As for Shoaib, he has been milking the publicity for all it’s worth and even gave India the choice between a fast bowler or fast food. “He may be your god, but he is not my god,” he said. “I’ve always believed he is great. I’ve said so in my book. If you like it, buy it. If you don’t like it, eat chaat.”

  493. #493 by tom on October 9, 2011 - 8:13 PM

    Khansahab

    You prayed and fasted but didnt become a bigot, because you are thank god not a bigot. Ironically, people you met were bigots by default whether they indulged in prayers or not. If you observe the level of corruption, illliteracy, misgovernance youll find it highest among muslims. Thats one reason why muslims are struggling globally. One may claim that islam is rapidly spreading but quality of muslims and position of muslims compared to other communities is low. So obviously if a community is in such a state youll find a higher no of frauds specially amongst the leaders. If you notice corruption amongst muslims is highest at elitist level.

  494. #494 by tom on October 9, 2011 - 8:16 PM

    Is something unexpected about to happen in next Elections?

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/10/07/the-ik-factor.html

  495. #495 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 9, 2011 - 8:49 PM

    THE GUARDIAN article is interesting, especially the punch line. To hurt the Mumbians more he should have specified, eat bhel puri.

    The analysis are very apt about Sachin rather than Shoaib, “Thou Shalt Not Criticize Sachin” has become a commandment ……. that is what I have been saying and most of us on this blog have been saying that treat him like a cricket player and not a God. Because, people will think a million times before criticizing, Jesus, Moses, Allah, Ram or even Guru Nanak because that may really hurt someone’s faith but no one especially non-Indian or non-Hindus will think twice before criticizing Sachin. Why give an individual such an status that he is a human being who is bound to make mistakes, no one is perfect except for God and Sachin is definitely not a God. So, this discussion must end here otherwise it shows that India’s especially Hindus underlying hatred against Muslims in general and Pakistanis in particular.

    As regards Akhtar calling Zardari as Sahab doesn’t bother me a bit, a lot of people add this suffix after my name. It may sound like he is buttering him but, even if he is I am not surprised because that is what a majority of the people do, today they call you sahab tomorrow they may say BCS. Besides, most people worship and respect the rising sun and those who are in power. What he wrote about Imran Khan and Wasim Akram is true, because Imran never demonized him, in fact Akhtar always respected him and approached him for help or guidance. Whereas, Wasim is the meanest of all the cricketers and Mohammad Akram the not so famous fast bowler or commentator once said, when he approached to Wasim Akram along with a few other young fast bowlers seeking guidance he yelled at them and told them to buzz off and added, that they should go to the PCB and tell them that I am not available for FREE.

    Once I read a news interview of Wasim Akram and he was demanding that the PCB must first create a “Fast Bowlers Fund Account” and make him incharge of that and then he will consider training the fast bowlers. It is true that there is no such thing as free lunch, but he gave free lessons and tips to Irfan Pathan when he was in Australia and they showed him on TV that Wasim was telling Irfan how to hold the ball and how to release it to get late swing and reverse swing. After that he got job offers in India and since then he is A PAKISTANI ALSATIAN BUT, INDIA’S HIS MASTER’S VOICE.

    Regarding REVENGE, it is only the Indian cricket team that has this attitude in the game that they want revenge against Pakistan and now it is against England, earlier they had it against Sri Lanka i.e., when they were losing against SL. So, this is the same old story. One Hindu guy here said it in party – apparently jokingly – but there is some truth in it, as it always comes out from your mouth one day or the other. He told us, a few Pakistanis, “BC Muslo tum log hum pay 800 saal hukumat kiye, jab hamari baari ayee badla (revenge) lay nay ki, tou tum salay Pakistan bana ker bhaag gaye!” He kept laughing after that but, it must be “a Sherry or two may have helped him vent his true feelings.” Like they say, “A couple of beers too many.” always helps you release the stress. Well, I don’t drink so I have no idea how much it helps, because I spell out my anger without any booze! 😀

  496. #496 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 10, 2011 - 5:07 AM

    HAS ANYONE READ THIS NEWS ARTICLE BEFORE? I HAVE GOOGLED IT JUST NOW AFTER HEARING FROM A FRIEND THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED IN RAWALPINDI AND, I WAS TOTALLY IN DISBELIEF AND SHOCK, I WONDER WHAT KINDA PEOPLE ARE THESE?

    Dress modestly: Masked men enter girls’ school, thrash students
    By Azam Khan
    Published: October 9, 2011

    Fear grips Satellite Town schools as 60 men beat up students for dressing ‘inappropriately’.
    RAWALPINDI:

    In a first for the garrison city, sixty masked men carrying iron rods barged into a girls’ school in Rawalpindi and thrashed students and female teachers on Friday.

    The gang of miscreants also warned the inmates at the MC Model Girls High School in Satellite Town to “dress modestly and wear hijabs” or face the music, eyewitnesses said.

    Fear gripped the area following the attack and only 25 of the 400 students studying in the college were present on Saturday. The school employs 30 female teachers.

    Attendance in other educational institutions also remained low. After hearing about the attack, all schools in the city shut down, an official of the Rawalpindi District Administration (RDA) told The Express Tribune.

    A student of the girls’ school managed to inform the administration of the nearby boys’ high school of the attack. “[However,] the armed gang was so powerful that we could not rescue our teachers and colleagues over there,” Noail Javed, a grade 10 student, said.

    In-charge of MC High Schools in Rawalpindi issued a notification to the heads of all girls’ schools to take pre-emptive measures to avoid such incidents in future. According to the notification, a gang comprising 60 to 70 miscreants entered into the school from a gate that was “strangely open”.

    All the MC school heads were assigned the responsibility of protecting the students by the notification. A school headmistress wishing not to be named said, “How is it possible for us to protect the students from such elements. The city administration should review its security plan.”

    The notification also suggested that the heads should not inform the students about the situation, so that they are not alarmed into skipping school. “Police is investigating the matter,” the notification said. Following the notification, the heads of the schools also shared the numbers of relevant police stations with the teachers in case of any untoward situation in future.

    Asjad Ali, a student of class 9 at the nearby boys’ high school, said that his younger brother Awais, a student of grade 5, was also among those who were brutally beaten by the miscreants with iron rods. “The police did not come,” he said.

    A police official of the New Town Police Station, asking for anonymity, told The Express Tribune, “We were under strict instructions to do nothing.”

    District Education Officer Qazi Zahoor and Rawalpindi Commissioner Zahid Saeed were not immediately available for comments.

    Published in The Express Tribune, October 9th, 2011.

  497. #497 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 10, 2011 - 5:15 AM

    These are the same miscreants of Lal Masjid incident and when Mushrraf’s govt. took action against them, there was a big hue and cry against him and ultimately his action against the Mullahs led to his downfall. The main culprit behind all this was Cheap Justice Paindoo Chaudhry Iftekhar.

    Btw, Musharraf will be in Montreal on Oct. 15th and he shall be giving a speech about his party and his plans about going back to Pakistan. The dinner plate is for $150 per person and it is by invitation only. NO gate crashing. I am invited but, I am not going., not because of the price but, I don’t think Musharraf will ever get back into power, it will be a miracle if he comes into power even by making alliance with other parties. I wouldn’t have gone even if it was Imran Khan, because, there is hardly any interest in politics and I don’t have any faith in any political party now. The whole system is corrupt and no one can change the system. There has to be a revolution i.e., an education revolution, until and unless the people are educated there will be no change in Pakistan and I don’t see that happening in the next 50 years. I will be dead and gone by then.

  498. #498 by Namaloom Afraad on October 10, 2011 - 7:51 AM

    Javed A Khan

    If PPP or PML N form the majority government in the next election there will be no Pakistan in the next 50 years. In fact there will be no Pakistan in the next 5 years.

  499. #499 by Namaloom Afraad on October 10, 2011 - 7:54 AM

    Butt stint as Pakistan cricket board chairman has been a disaster

    Osman Samiuddin
    Oct 10, 2011

    On Saturday, Ijaz Butt completed three years as chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB). Under the constitution, chairmen are appointed by the country’s president for three years, with the option of an extension or another three-year term available.

    An extension of possibly six months is said to be under consideration.

    A generous assessment of his time would have it as disastrous. On and off the field, the reputation of a once-proud cricket nation has been shredded. It has become a paranoid wreck and Butt has steered that transformation.

    There has been careful handling of the financial mess that his predecessor, Nasim Ashraf, left behind, but that is the sole achievement and it will not last much longer should there be no games against India.

    Captains, coaches and selectors have come and gone; now they have a chief selector playing interim coach. Players and their rights have been suppressed, and now disenchanted, they are unwilling to play for Pakistan.

    All this is the lightweight stuff. It doesn’t include his inexcusable behaviour after the attacks on the Sri Lanka team, or the spot-fixing crisis, for which he must bear considerable responsibility.

    Speculation about replacements is intense. Butt, 73, is said to be keen to leave.

    The president is said to be keener still on Butt finishing a stadium in the Bhutto family homeland of Ghari Khuda Baksh before he goes.

    The identity of the successor is conjecture; what isn’t in doubt is Butt’s standing as possibly the worst chairman the PCB has had, a feat that takes some doing given the healthy competition.

  500. #500 by Namaloom Afraad on October 10, 2011 - 7:56 AM

    Sindh backs Dr Shah as next PCB chief

    KARACHI: The legislators of Sindh have recommended the name of Dr Mohammad Ali Shah to head the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), following the expiry of term of present chairman Ijaz Butt.

    “We have discussed the matter with President Asif Ali Zardari, requesting him to appoint Dr Mohammad Ali Shah as the new chairman of the PCB. This discussion with the President had taken place in the presence of Sindh Governor Dr Ishrat-ul-Ebad Khan, and a few other provincial ministers,” Agha Siraj Durrani, Sindh Minister for Local Bodies, disclosed while speaking as the chief guest in the launching ceremony of twin-biographies of Dr Shah here at a five-star hotel on Sunday.

    “We brought it to the notice of President Asif Zaradari that it’s high time that someone from Sindh should be heading the PCB. And in our opinion Dr Shah is the most appropriate person for this job,” he declared.

  501. #501 by Namaloom Afraad on October 10, 2011 - 7:58 AM

    Dean Jones unlikely to get Pak assignment

    KARACHI: Dean Jones may be keen to take up as Pakistan’s new coach but the country’s cricket authorities are not interested in hiring the former Australian Test batsman for the job.

    According to well-placed sources, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has ruled out the chances of roping in Jones to succeed Waqar Younis as Pakistan’s new coach.

    “It’s out of the question,” a reliable source told ‘The News’ referring to the chances of Dean Jones getting hired as Pakistan’s coach. “The Board is planning to contact a few coaches for the job but I can tell you that he (Jones) doesn’t figure prominently on their list,” he added.

    The source rejected the impression that Jones was among the leading candidates for the job, revealing that a committee formed by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to find a suitable coach for the Pakistan team is not impressed by Jones’ credentials.

    “He (Jones) doesn’t have much coaching experience and that’s something which goes against him,” said a source. “But that is not his only minus point. Jones is quite a controversial personality and the committee members believe that he won’t be a good choice,” added the source, who is privy to the discussions that have taken place between the committee members.

  502. #502 by Namaloom Afraad on October 10, 2011 - 8:02 AM

    Dean Jones is pretty low profile but he was the most high profile candidate amongst those who were rumoured to be on the PCB’s list. I don’t think Whatmore was in consideration.

  503. #503 by Mohammed Munir on October 10, 2011 - 9:13 AM

    I am not aware of the candidates who have applied for the Pakistan’s coach position or those who are on PCB’s list for the job.

    Nevertheless, I too think Dean Jones wouldn’t have been the worst coach, but on second thoughts, isn’t he the same guy who passed some racist comments on Hashim Amla of SA ❓

    So may be that was the reason of PCB rendering him a “controvercial personality”.

    Whatmore … can we get ❓ 😉

  504. #504 by Namaloom Afraad on October 10, 2011 - 9:29 AM

    Indian singer Jagjit Singh has passed away.

    He was much loved in Pakistan despite his extremely venomous comments against Pakistan after the Mumbai attacks of 2008 where he questioned why India lets Pakistani singers perform in India.

  505. #505 by tom on October 10, 2011 - 10:27 AM

    Khansahab

    I second what you say. Some of us may live for another 50 years but Pakistan does not seem to have that much shelf life.

    I had a funny feeling abnout deano being dumped on those grounds. it was suggested that his comments were not so damaging but in Pakistan with already protests taking place on variuos issues, i dont think govt has the stomach to digest another PANGAA.

    Wel deano, you might regret buyt may be one day youll feel lucky not to come to Pakistan. its better you enjoy life in sydney or melbourne rather than facing bomb blasts and firing incidents in pakistan.

  506. #506 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 10, 2011 - 11:18 AM

    Since last night I am still very angry on what happened in Rawalpindi girls school, I couldn’t sleep properly thinking about those innocent victims and, those COWARD NIQABI MEN and it seems that the incident has been ignored by everyone. There is no word of protest from any political figure or the government. I feel very bad and sad because, if you think from another perspective that, suppose your daughter or your younger sister was among those innocent girls who were beaten by these coward masked men by steel rods, how would you feel? I feel disgusted at the thought that THEY had the gum shum to walk into a girls school and then beat them up with steel rods? The police says, “we were told to stay away from the scene.” Who told them? Shouldn’t there be a national inquiry into this matter? If such a thing had happened in the USA, Canada or the UK the people would have come on streets and demanded the President or the Prime Minister’s resignation. Here no one is talking about it? What a shame, what a disgrace to the nation and the religion that such men are untouchable and above the law?

    It will not be difficult to find out who did this, because this is an organized crime and I am sure the police knows them. Those shameless so called men did not have the guts to show their faces to the girls? Even Hijray show their face if they beat someone who bother them. Whereas, these FAGOTS so-called THAKAYDAAR of DEEN, BUZDILL aur KAMEENAY LOG, beat up young innocent girls with steel rods by barging into their school and they are so scared that they hide their face. IF THEY ARE REAL MEN, THEN THEY SHOULD FIGHT AGAINST MEN. I am very deeply saddened by this attack, it hurts even more so especially when when no one talks about it, condemning the act is another matter.

  507. #507 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 10, 2011 - 11:30 AM

    Munir

    We have already discussed on the blog about that racist comment of Deano, perhaps you have missed out that part of the discussion because of your new assignment that is keeping you so busy. The reason for not considering him that he does not have enough coaching experience is a very lame one, do you think Lawson had more experience? To me Lawson appeared very weak and meek whereas, Deano has a better strong personality. I am not recommending his case, I have already said that Pakistan should rely more on their own resources rather than looking out for a foreign coach. The only person in my opinion who is honest, sincere, devoted and most capable from the available lot is RASHID LATIF. But, he will NEVER be made coach because he is from Karachi and he is blunt and straightforward and may not agree with the PCB management on various issues so they will not even consider him as a candidate.

    Zaheer Abass has already been a failure, that simpleton doesn’t know what he is talking about. Inzamam and Saeed Anwar have opened a BUTCHERY SHOP in Dubai (this is not a joke but, its for real and I have copy pasted that news here on this blog) Wasim is not only corrupt from top to bottom but, he is a traitor he should never be given any job in Pakistan. Do you think ILL-ASS is a good choice? Mohsin Khan is a THALI KA BAINGAN a bloody yes man. Miandad should be considered for a bigger post than a coach. I don’t see a single person other than Rashid Latif who can handle this job professionally and without any fear or influence from outside.

  508. #508 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 10, 2011 - 11:47 AM

    Even up till now the DAWN newspaper has not even mentioned about this Rawalpindi girls school attack, au contraire they have highlighted the news of JAGJIT SINGH’s death and is lamenting and mourning on his death. I don’t give a TOSH to Jagjit Singh the GAJAL SINGER.

    First of all when someone says, ” Ek Gajal Pace Kerta hoon” I am already put off by that person, because one who cannot say GHAZAL and says GAJAL because in Hindi it is GAJAL so why the EFFF he has to deal with Urdu poetry? It is better if they go ahead and sing Tulsi Das kay Dohay. Why murder Ghalib, Mir and, Iqbal’s poetry?

    Besides, Pakistanis think Dean Jones is a controversial figure because he passed racist comments on Hashim Amla? What about Jagjit Singh? Does anyone remember what he said about Pakistanis and Muslims? What about Lata Mangeshkar and Amitabh Ka Buchpan? He is the same shameless idiot who flirted with his would be daughter in law and who knows if he had gone far enough like he did with Bollywood ki aur Gai Bhainsain?

  509. #509 by Namaloom Afraad on October 10, 2011 - 12:22 PM

    Javed shahab

    Aishwarya jee bahuth soondar devi hai uss key baaray mai kripya kar key sirf shub shub bolain.

    hamey aishwarya aur katrina aur kareena sey prem hain. unn ki suraksha karnay ke liye toorant tayar hain hum.

  510. #510 by Namaloom Afraad on October 10, 2011 - 12:24 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I think such occurrences are now very common in Pakistan and they were rampant in Musharraf’s time too which is why he believed the war on extremism is Pakistan’s war and not Amreeka’s.

    In KP and Fata it is common for schools, cinema halls, music stores, barbers’ shops etc to receive threats or face vandalism.

  511. #511 by Namaloom Afraad on October 10, 2011 - 12:36 PM

    Javed A Khan

    It seems that ghazal lovers have to face those singers who say “gajal” or those who can’t pronounce “qaaf” 😀

  512. #512 by Namaloom Afraad on October 10, 2011 - 12:42 PM

    Javed A Khan

    As an example about ghazals and incorrect pronunciation, I was once listening to a song or gajal by Rahat Fateh Ali Khan, nephew of Nusrat Fateh. The Urdu was very difficult for me to understand but some people who know Urdu better than me were also listening and they couldn’t understand the poetry. They later realised that, on 3 occasions Rahat pronounced “qaaf” as “kaaf” and that changed the meaning of the words. They couldn’t figure out earlier what the poetry meant because the incorrectly pronounced words with “kaaf” also had a meaning in Urdu but somehow did not fit in with the meaning of the poetry.

    And then one of them said, if only this guy could pronounce Urdu correctly, they wouldn’t have had such a headache trying to figure things out!

  513. #513 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 10, 2011 - 1:02 PM

    khansahab

    I am not taking about Jagjit Singh only you have rightly pointed out about Rahat Fateh Ali Khan and there is Ghulam Ali too, he is such a Ch2 Sulphate that in between the Ghazal he tries to explain the meaning of some difficult (in his opinion) words for example he was singing that famous kalaam of Ghalib: Bana hai Shah Ka Musahaib, phiray hai itrata……… he was saying Shah means King and Musahib means King’s advisor and and phiray means ghoomna phirna (whereas it means roaming aimlessly or wandering about) itrata means akarna….. He was such a PAIN to the ears that I was literally pissed off in that so-called Ghazal Evening by Ghulam Ali. He was also saying, in Urdu you have to lay emphasis on certain words by putting “pressure” on that alphabet for e.g. there is a word called SHAYED which means perhaps. So, when you say Shayed, you use the Urdu word Daal very softly like this: SHAAAAAAAAAYEd, see I said daal very very softly. Now you see the opposite of it SHAYEDDDDDDDD, see how it sounds. Abay Chutiyum Sulphate what makes you think that the audience are naive and they don’t know Urdu? You are the one whose Urdu is f’ked up with Punjabi accent.

  514. #514 by Namaloom Afraad on October 10, 2011 - 2:44 PM

    Australians ‘biggest match-fixers’

    UKPA

    A cricket agent accused of taking bribes to fix matches claimed that Australian players and Pakistan stars were also involved in betting scams, a court has heard.

    Mazhar Majeed, 36, told an undercover journalist the Australians were “the biggest” when it came to rigging games, Southwark Crown Court was told.

    Claiming match-fixing had been going on “for centuries”, he named celebrated former Pakistan fast-bowlers Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis as alleged participants.

    Mr Majeed also boasted that he knew Hollywood star Brad Pitt and tennis ace Roger Federer “very well” and could arrange for them to promote a proposed cricket tournament in the United Arab Emirates, the court heard.

    The jury was played covert recordings of meetings between the London-based agent and former News of the World journalist Mazher Mahmood, who was posing as a rich Indian businessman seeking major international players for the tournament.

    The tape was played during the trial of Pakistan’s former Test captain, Salman Butt, and fast bowler Mohammad Asif, who both deny conspiracy to cheat and conspiracy to accept corrupt payments between August 15 and 29 last year during the Lord’s Test between England and Pakistan.

    Mr Majeed met Mr Mahmood at a west London restaurant on August 18 last year – the first day of Pakistan’s Oval Test against England – and after the meal discussed match-fixing in the undercover reporter’s car, the court was told.

    Naming famous former Pakistan national cricketers, the agent said in the recording: “It’s been happening for centuries. It’s been happening for years. Wasim, Waqar, Ijaz Ahmed, Moin Khan – they all did it.”

    Mr Majeed went on to allege that Australian players would fix “brackets”, a set period of a match on which punters bet, for example, how many runs will be scored. “The Australians, they are the biggest. They have 10 brackets a game,” he said in the tape played to the court.

    The agent complained that Pakistan cricket players were paid “peanuts” but said there was “very big money” to be made from match-fixing.”I’ve been doing this with the Pakistani team now for about two-and-a-half years, and we’ve made masses and masses of money,” he told the reporter.”You can make absolute millions.

  515. #515 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 10, 2011 - 2:50 PM

    khansahab

    Tribal areas are tribal areas, a lot of things have been happening there since a long time and no government has ever been able to control them. But, something happening in the twin cities of Rawalpindi and Islamabad, the capital, right under the nose of Zardari, is a concern. Even in Punjab there are extremists and fundoz and that Qasab guy is from Punjab, they say the extremism in Punjab is more concerning than it is in the tribal areas. Even in Karachi there are a few groups and sects who are just as bad as them. In Karachi these days women fashion show is on and they are is already a segment of society who are very much against the CAT WALK and what not. They are surviving because it is Karachi where people are more tolerant than other cities. The government needs to stop this by taking strict action otherwise it would be (imo, it is already) out of control and people would be scared to send their daughters to school or lapaitofy and chaderofy their women and girls, this is too much. There is such a big contrast between what is happening in Pakistan and what is happening in France, where women are the victims in both cases. Is it because they both consider women as a weaker species? Then shame on them.

  516. #516 by Namaloom Afraad on October 10, 2011 - 10:51 PM

    S Rajesh of Cricinfo has written recently that Harbhajan was once arguably the world’s best spinner.

    What rubbish.

    It was always Warne, Saqlain, Murali, Afridi and then the moment Murali lost his prime, Swann was unleashed and now it is all about Swann.

    Both Kumble and Harbhajan were good and match winners in some parts of their career, but they could never be as consistent as Warne, Saqlain or Murali.

  517. #517 by Namaloom Afraad on October 10, 2011 - 10:57 PM

    BREAKING NEWS

    According to reliable sources Sohail Tanvir has married for the second time without seeking his first wife’s consent and even has a child with his first wife.

    The news has caused a scandal.

  518. #518 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 11, 2011 - 11:27 AM

    Sohail Tanvir is a typical paindoo and a ch2Sulphate, he always carry a smirk on his arrogant face and the way he talks on TV shows reflects his uncouthness and paindoism. A few years ago when he was in the UK with the Pakistani team he was head over heels with a British born Pakistani origin gashtee and I saw her photograph with Sohail it was published in one of the Tabloids. The gashtee looked like an absolute chronic druggie.

    Rajesh is another biased BC he finds his ways to prove his point with some weird stats. khansahab you should send him your stats and analysis which you recently made about Misbah and Tendulkar, just to ridicule him. 😀

    Once arguably the best spinner and that too, Bhajji Saag? May be he is referring to one match and that too played in India? When Afridi hit him for 5 sixes in a test match he was dropped from the team for almost 6 months and lost his bowling confidence. You cannot say this because he is also a deity in India just like Tendulkar is. In the recently concluded series the England team Bhaaji ki Bajja, Bajja kay Saag bana diya so much so that he was dropped from the team with a face saving statement that he pulled his chest muscle? Yeah, he must have got that idea from Wasim Akram.

  519. #519 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 11, 2011 - 11:35 AM

    WHAT A SHAME, THE ISLAMABAD HIGH COURT SUSPENDED THE HANGING OF QUADRI FOR SOME TIME. MURDERERS AND CONVICTS ARE PROTECTED BY THE COURT?

    I was surprised when the anti terrorism court gave its decision to hang Quadri, I said, wow there is some improvement in Pakistan, first the Sialkot lynching culprits were convicted and then the Rangers of Karachi for killing that innocent boy were convicted, so there is definitely some improvement in decision making and the time involved in making these decisions. But I forgot that the civil courts are still run by the corrupt bureaucrats and corrupt judiciary. Even if the High Court sentences him, his lawyers have the Supreme Court open where the Cheap Justice is lurking around under the 3alls of Zardari.

  520. #520 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 11, 2011 - 11:45 AM

    Shoaib Akhtar’s book has made him more popular than he was before and too much negative criticism by the Indian media and ex-players have created more sympathies for Akhtar and it is true that he deserves the recognition for whatever services he provided for Pakistan. Besides, in his book there are many positive comments about other Indian players like, Sehwag, Gambhir, Yuvraj and Kohli and he praised Ganguly so much and no one talks about it, but just one word against Tendulkar has lead to this chaos and outcry from the Tendulkar worshipers.

  521. #521 by tom on October 11, 2011 - 4:42 PM

    As I predicted on this blog, Zardar busted Butt’s butt. A new chairman for PCB is appointed and butt got no extension. Mr Zaka Ashraf is new chairman.

  522. #522 by Ali Ahad on October 11, 2011 - 5:20 PM

    Thank God, just confirmed it on DAWN, can this be a good omen for Pakistan Cricket

  523. #523 by Namaloom Afraad on October 11, 2011 - 6:06 PM

    Pakistanis wanted to lose to damage Afridi

    Geo Tv

    LONDON: Pakistan cricketers were ready to throw one-day internationals and Twenty20s in a bid to undermine then captain Shahid Afridi and make “a lot of money“, a London court heard on Tuesday.

    Mazhar Majeed, an agent for several Pakistan players, told an undercover reporter last year that the players wanted Afridi replaced by then Test captain Salman Butt and were prepared to fix matches to do it, Southwark Crown Court heard.

    The jury in the trial of Butt and fast bowler Mohammad Asif saw video of meetings between Majeed and the News of the World’s investigation’s editor Mazher Mahmood.

  524. #524 by Namaloom Afraad on October 11, 2011 - 6:09 PM

    A talented 32 year old cricketer called Nauman Habib from Peshawar was kidnapped and murdered by unknown people today.

    Habib played at first class level and represented Peshawar Panthers in the recent Faysal Bank T20 Cup.

    Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi rajioon.

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