The above caption is a reference used in the military and wartimes.  It’s original meaning is; before you attack you decide that you will kill everybody on the battlefield, regardless whether they try to fight you or try to give up or, surrender.   Another view of  the original term was to “Give no quarter.” Again to kill everyone. Even if they throw down their arms and give up or, plead mercy – shoot them. It may sound very cruel ???  Yes, indeed it is.

Which is how it is now applied in the business and sports world.  It means to be ruthless.  To get ahead at the expense of other. Or on a lighter side – Don’t fail either way – It is a bad model to follow and karma will get you with ruthless behavior.  If you want to see an example of  “take no prisoners”  in the movie…watch Lawrance of Arabia.  After the Turks destroyed a village…Lawrence yells. “No prisoners” over and over  …  for the revenge of the dead villagers, they go on to kill every one without regard.

WE have used the caption of this thread  metaphorically, it doesn’t mean kill the trio but, kill their cricketing career for what they have done. There is no denial that they are not involved in betting and match fixing. Guilty or NOT, punish ALL the culprits besides the three accused, including Other Majeed & Mother Majeed and not to mention the other Pakistani players who were involved in this case whose names are cropping up every now and then. Because, they have brought a bad name not only to the game but, to the country and the nation as a whole.

Had Justice Qayyum’s verdict been implemented 12 years ago, this may not have happened today. Pakistan is a country where nothing is permissible but, everything is possible.  The highest court of the country passes a verdict and the PCB ignores it and apply their own rules, which are no rules but exceptions.

The lawyers in England have pitched Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif against each other and Salman at times was so agitated, frustrated that he was breaking down and replied very harshly to the questions.  They will not scape punishment for sure because their case is very weak and on top of that, Mohammad Aamir was changed his statement. Which once again shows that there is something more than what meets the eye?



In my opinion, Aamir should NEVER be given a chance to play for Pakistan EVER AGAIN. He has no credibility, he is not straightforward and he took the sides of the culprits when he was assured that nothing will happen, when he saw that he is out of the team – in fact out of cricket action at any level – he got shiver down the spine and then he started approaching people on how to come back? If there is any way? And, some simpleton suggested that now you take a complete U- turn and give your statements against Salman Butt and Asif that they forced you or enticed you and you being so young, inexperience, vulnerable and gullible fall for it without realizing the grave consequences.  So, he is now take the role of a BHOLA BUCCHA.



He is not that Bhola, he may say he is 18 years old or what ever, but he certainly looks much older and more matured than his age.  Eighteen is the age for an individual in North America to cast your vote to elect your leader.  18 is the age in Canada where you get your driving licence, 18 is the age in Canada where you can buy alcohol on your from a store. So, eighteen years old is not a kid. He knew how to make money, he was a part and parcel of the spot fixing saga and now he acts innocent?

Mohammed Aamir You have to pay a price and that is the end of your career.

Mohammed Aamir you are not that innocent and you have to pay a price and that is the end of your cricketing career.

People say, give him a second chance he is just a kid, don’t ruin his career he is so very talented. If you do give him a second chance what message are you conveying to the thousand other Aamirs who are spreading their wings to fly? Why stick to this one only. Do you think a bowler like Aamir will born in the next ONE MILLION years? Please stop worshiping. On one hand Pakistanis make fun of Tendulkar for being treated as a deity and on the other hand they treat their own players as one in a million (they cannot call them god because they will be executed by the Mullahs) so this is the stance they take and try to create a lobby and apply pressure on the authorities and that breeds regionalism and jingoism.

Mohammad Asif MUST have been banned after the Dubai incident, I wonder why they keep playing him again and again?  Wasim, Waqar, Aaqib Javed and Mushy must have been banned for life after they were caught on the beach smoking Marijuana or Cannabis and jailed in the Caribbean for 2 nights.  All that was hushed, hushed and covered up because these were the elite team members.  Why do they have such dual standards?

If Aamir is included in the team after all this, then all the young fast bowlers will get a wrong message and they will end up saying, “Yaar, abhee tou match fix kero aur paisay banao, baad ki baad dekhi jai gee.” This is the uneducated, uncouth and uncivilized attitude that we so often see among the Pakistani players.  Those who are honest are sidelined and those who are the culprits they thrive, because they feed the system which is like a hand in glove with the players.

So, the bottom line is, IF SALMAN BUTT & MOHAMMAD ASIF ARE BANNED, THEN MOHAMMAD AAMER SHOULD NOT BE SPARED, NO SYMPATHIES FOR AGE.  After all he was a member of the Pakistan International Team and not a toddler. BAN HIM FOR LIFE TOO.  SHOW NO MERCY.

  1. #1 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 19, 2011 - 6:45 AM


  2. #2 by Mohammed Munir on October 19, 2011 - 11:11 AM

    These fixers are getting more media attention than the ‘live game’ between Pakistan and Sri Lanka … Why ❓ 😦

  3. #3 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 11:22 AM

    Sohail welcomes Afridi’s decision

    LAHORE – Former Pakistan captain Amir Sohail has welcomed Shahid Afridi’s decision to return to international cricket.
    “The team needs Afridi and his decision is appreciable, however, the bitter dispute between Afridi and board officials should not have taken place in the first place. Both the parties should have talked behind closed doors,” Amir Sohail said here on Tuesday.
    Former captain Shahid Khan Afridi on Tuesday announced his return to the international arena and made himself available for selection.
    “Revealing the matter to the media was inappropriate, players as well as board officials should refrain from this practice in the future,” added Sohail.

  4. #4 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 11:27 AM

    Musharraf-Imran election alliance being brokered by common friends

    The Nation

    Important political developments could be witnessed before the general elections as political parties are adjusting their positions in line with the prevailing scenario. The All Pakistan Muslim League chief Gen (Retd) Pervez Musharraf and Tehrik-e-Insaf leader Imaran Khan are being persuaded by common friends to enter into an alliance to win maximum number of seats and emerge as one of the major political force in the country.
    These hints emerged as Tehrik-e-Insaaf Chief is now on a visit to the United States. Well placed sources said that Musharraf-Imran were busy in forging a covert political alliance through their friends in the US.
    One person in the forefront to make this happen is the mayor of Paris (Texas, USA)) Dr Arjumand Hashmi, one of Musharraf’s cronies, who is trying to broker a deal with all he is worth. The likely alliance is election specific.
    Sources brought to fore that Imran Khan, flanked by his close aide Dr Zai, on the sidelines of a recent political visit to US met with Dr Arjumand who had invited him to dinner at his residence. It has also come to light that he (Imran) stayed there overnight.
    Dr Arjumand when approached by media persons confirmed the meeting and stay of Imran Khan at his house. He however denied any telephonic conversation between the two leaders during the whole time Tehrik-e-Insaf leader was his guest.

  5. #5 by tom on October 19, 2011 - 11:50 AM


    there is a lot of a money in a match fixing than in a cricket. Public likes a sensational a story.

    With reference to this blog, I feel Aamer will get a light sentence due to his age and the fact that hes confessed his guilt which gives one impression of a deal. Such things happen in legal systems where accusers collude with prosecution and get some reprieve.

  6. #6 by tom on October 19, 2011 - 11:52 AM


    If Imran enters in to a political alliance with Mush, it will seriously damage his credibility. It will give fodder to his detractors as his policies are anti US and hes opposed to most of policies of Musharraf era like drones etc. But in Pakistan anything is possible and public suffers from amnesia so who knows?

  7. #7 by tom on October 19, 2011 - 11:55 AM


    iam being a little speculative here, but I want your thoughts

    Assuming Hafeezulkar gets 70 odd 100’s in next 5-6 years and he’s labelled a Pakistani Tendulkar, which Indian bowler do you think would accuse him in his biography of trembling while facing him. Can it be zaheer, munaf, or even Mr Sabzi singh (HEHEHE…….)

  8. #8 by tom on October 19, 2011 - 11:59 AM

  9. #9 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 11:59 AM


    They are both anti corruption and anti feudalism. The major area of disagreement is terrorism and extremism. Musharraf thinks this should be eradicated through force and Imran believes in reconciliation with them.

    Imran is anti MQM and Musharraf is pro MQM- Imran needs to ask what he can gain electorally from this alliance? I don’t think he can gain much because his anti MQM and anti American supporters will criticise him.

    So, I don’t think Imran will forge any alliance. They will probably broker a deal not to criticise each other or maybe oppose each other in constituencies, but I think that is as far as they will go. Musharraf has more to gain probably from Imran because Imran is now rapidly gaining popularity amongst the masses.

    If Musharraf softens his stance on extremism and if Imran softens his stance on USA and MQM etc maybe there is a prospect of a deal.

  10. #10 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 12:00 PM


    I think Munaf will accuse him of trembling because as you know Munaf’s average bowling speed is 94 mph.

  11. #11 by tom on October 19, 2011 - 12:02 PM


    Imran and MQM have tacitly stopped abusing each other. They havent forged an alliance but the degree of animosity they had towards each other has drastically reduced. Imran mainly focuses on PML N and then PPP.

    You are right in saying that Mush will get more gain than Imran by this deal.

  12. #12 by tom on October 19, 2011 - 12:03 PM

    And I think Munaf’s biography would be titled ” IDIOTICALLY YOURS “

  13. #13 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 12:29 PM


    Waqar’s autobiography would be titled,

    “A Burewala Yours”

  14. #14 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 12:43 PM

    I am not watching the Pakistan match but there have been reports that the umpiring has been pretty bad.

    Apparently Taufeeq Umar has been given two lifelines so far.

  15. #15 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 19, 2011 - 1:13 PM

    Allah nay Taufiq de tou runzayen kya Tonzayen bun gayeen! Now, he will play 10 more test matches and get out cheaply, this was a licence to kill which he got it. In the UAE, Pakistan always plays well no matter what the conditions suits well BUTTA Rameez has a different view in the UAE Pathans come to support Afridi………….. is this not jingoism? But, that Phutta Baja gets away with this.

    I know, I know that Aamir will get some sort of lesser punishment than the two, but I want him to be equally punished why should you spare him of his age, he is not a juvenile, he is an adult and his real age may be 23 or 24 may be. He can buy a big house in Lahore like Butt and Asif, so where lies the innocence? Innocent was Sylvester Stallione as ROCKY – 1 i,e, when he won a major fight and gets a few hundred thousand dollars and wanted to invest, his friends advise him, “How about investing in a Condo? He replied, “NEVER USED ONE.” Aamir is not that bhola. Look at Butt, he had a Rolex, Omega, Tag Heuer and what not? He was aiming for an Aston Martin, all his dreams shattered because of MOTHERMAJEED and MAHMOOD corraborated for some real big money and the house of cards came crashing down.

  16. #16 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 19, 2011 - 1:20 PM

    Almost 60 runs lead with 9 wickets in hand, I won’t be surprised if there is a crash and a decline from here onwards and, on the 3rd day Pakistan could hardly take the lead to 120 max. The Lankan greats can get down for a big score and look for a possible draw. This I presume because, Pakistani great bowlers seldom perform well in the second innings, by now they must be celebrating the evening at Delli Restaurant with Bong Nihari and Bihari. Tomorrow there will be so much laziness, lethargy and burps on the ground that they will not know what is happening?

  17. #17 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 1:27 PM

    Javed A Khan

    About Aamer, I totally agree with you that he should not be spared. What Aamer has done, a 10 year old kid who knows about cricket knows that it is wrong. It does not matter if you bowl a no ball on someone’s orders or whether you play an innings, or deliberately get out due to somebody’s orders and to make some money on the side.

    It is pathetic that Aamer is being considered some kind of naive kid. I agree that if he is mature enough to buy a car, to buy a grand house in Lahore then he is mature enough to know that bowling a deliberate no ball is “fixing” which is an offence under the ICC code. The fact there was some level of information provided about bookmakers and information provided about how the entire conspiracy materialised has also made this a possible criminal offence under English law.

  18. #18 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 2:21 PM

    Butt questioned on team-mates’ role

    Salman Butt was questioned on the possible involvement of his former team-mates in fixing on the eleventh morning of the alleged spot-fixing trial on Wednesday, and met the prosecution’s interrogation with a straight bat.

    Butt, in the witness stand for the second consecutive day, was asked about other players, including fast bowlers Mohammad Amir, Mohammad Asif and Wahab Riaz, and was questioned on a line of dialogue recovered from agent Mazhar Majeed’s phone.

    Butt and Asif are facing charges of conspiracy to cheat, and conspiracy to obtain and accept corrupt payments, following the Lord’s Test last year when they allegedly conspired with Majeed, Amir and others to bowl pre-planned no-balls. Butt and Asif deny the charges.

    “Was Wahab Riaz in with the fixing, Mr Butt,” asked Aftab Jafferjee QC for the prosecution when discussing text and phone dialogue surrounding The Oval Test that preceded Lord’s.

    Those other people can answer better than me,” was Butt’s reply, having on several times rejected any notion that he was ever involved with corruption.

    Jafferjee explained how the transfer of the initial £10,000, handed over by the undercover journalist to set up his sting, involved Wahab. Majeed had the money in the inside pocket of his jacket which he then gave to Wahab to wear, pointing out that Wahab was much bigger than Majeed and had been wearing a T-shirt.

    Jafferjee suggested that the transfer of the cash was made by using Wahab, adding, “Was Wahab feeling a bit cold? He was eating an ice cream. He wasn’t looking like he was a bit cold.” To which Butt replied: “It depends on different people.”

    “But they don’t eat ice cream in summer with a T-shirt on.”

    On another occasion, Jafferjee asked Butt whether Amir was involved in the fixing, having already acknowledged that he had suspicions when the scandal broke in the News of the World.

    “You can ask him,” was Butt’s response, adding, “As I have said I had my suspicions.”

    Then Jafferjee asked of Asif and of his possible guilt within the fixing being alleged.

    “He’s here, he will tell you,” Butt said.

    On another occasion, Butt was asked to look at the printed transcript of a recovered text message sent at 1.00am during the Oval Test from an Indian number to Majeed.

    The Indian contact said: “Kami (Kamran Akmal) and Amir minimum 13 off first three overs after Kami gives an indication by change of gloves with no wicket. It starts from round of overs, say 35 or 40, whichever is first after they come together. Next seven overs, maximum 15 runs.”

    Jafferjee probed Butt for his opinion on what was occurring in that message and suggested that fixing was being arranged.

    It shows what you are saying,” Butt admitted. “That something is going on.”

  19. #19 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 2:28 PM

    So reading this news report it is clear that Butt is accepting that SOMEONE from the team is involved in fixing and that fixing has TAKEN PLACE.

    He has suspicions about Aamer and does not want to comment about Asif.

    I think this looks weak on part of Butt. Who was the players’ ringleader?

    Geoff Lawson and Qadir are witnesses for Butt and they will say that so far as they know, Butt is not involved in match fixing.

    I think the Prosecution can easily establish that these two don’t know Butt well enough to be able to say what he was doing whenever he came to England or who he knows in the betting and fixing mafia.

    If I was the Prosecutor I would ask Qadir about his association with Wasim Akram and Salim Malik and whether he ever saw them take bribes. Qadir is likely to say no, so I would ask him how the **** is he so sure about Butt’s integrity?

  20. #20 by tom on October 19, 2011 - 3:03 PM


    Prima facie this trial is heading for a conviction. prosecution has virtually established that match fixing did occur and Butt inspite of his few moments where he remained composed would not be able to establish that how he couldnt have been part of all this although he was the captain .As we all know match fixing is very difficult w/o participation of captain. Now it seems every man is for himself- trying to screw the others so as to save himself. i feel Aamer would get some leniency although the cruelest part of all this episode is that Scum Suckmal is not facing trial. He is the biggest fixer and polluter in this set up.

    I understand your outrage towards aamer but even if you were a member of the jury the premise of being eighteenish plus a first time offence does have some appeal. Thats what his defense team is banking on- damage control.

  21. #21 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 3:14 PM

    Never had personal issue with Afridi: Waqar

    LAHORE: Former coach Waqar Younis has once again reiterated that he had no personal issues with Shahid Afridi and welcomed his decision to come out of retirement and make himself available for selection in the Pakistan team.

    However, the former Test captain felt the entire Afridi episode had left a negative impact on the minds of the young players in the country.

    “It was his decision to retire and take it back, it is good he is available for selection but it is also a fact that the entire episode has left a bad impression particularly on the young players,” he said.

    Waqar insisted that he had no issues with Afridi and had worked well with him for over a year.

    Afridi has time and again blamed Waqar for interfering in his work on the tour of the West Indies something that eventually led him to retire in protest.

  22. #22 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 4:53 PM

    The court has reported that no criminal proceedings will be initiated against the Akmal brothers or Wahab Riaz.

    The Prosecution definitely has some evidence against them but probably not enough to charge them.

    However it seems like many observers of the trial now believe that the Akmal brothers and Riaz are involved in match fixing.

  23. #23 by tom on October 19, 2011 - 5:00 PM

  24. #24 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 5:10 PM

    Why was Butt trying to call Imran Khan? Is Imran like some godfather to all these players?

    Butt has ‘been caught’ court told

    Salman Butt was told by the prosecution he had “been caught” as his long vigil in the witness box that stretched over three days was completed in the afternoon of the eleventh day of the alleged spot-fixing trial in London on Wednesday.

    Butt faced the prosecution headed by Aftab Jafferjee QC for two days running, following the day he spent in the stand with his own counsel on Monday. It was an often fraught exchange that concluded with Butt accepting no part in the alleged spot-fixing and Jafferjee telling the court that he was “controlling” the players through the no-balls.

    Former Pakistan captain Butt and fast bowler Mohammad Asif are facing charges of conspiracy to cheat, and conspiracy to obtain and accept corrupt payments, following the Lord’s Test last year when they allegedly conspired with agent Mazhar Majeed, teenage pace bowler Mohammad Amir and other people unknown to bowl pre-planned no-balls. Butt and Asif deny the charges.

    The jury was walked through the detail of the frantic phone traffic between Butt, Majeed, Asif and Amir on the night before the Lord’s Test commenced, after Majeed had been caught on a secret camera pocketing £140,000 for pre-planned no-balls to be bowled plus future fixes. A previous amount of £10,000 had already been paid.

    There were 20 calls or texts between Butt and Majeed, 25 between Amir and Majeed and four between Butt, Asif and Amir. Some of these calls or text messages were made in the early hours.

    “The Lord’s fix was on Mr Butt in the early hours of the morning and you know it don’t you,” Jafferjee said.

    Butt replied: “No.”

    “It’s all going on behind your back is it?” Jafferjee asked sarcastically.

    Butt: “Yes.”

    “It’s the three of you who are all (planning) the no-balls Mr Butt,” Jafferjee continued. “You are all saying what is going to go on, isn’t it?

    Butt: “I’m not part of it.”

    “But we agree don’t we Mr Butt,” Jafferjee went on, “that if Amir and Asif were involved they would have to have spoken to you?”

    Butt: “Okay, I’ll take that from you (with a wry grin).”

    “Everything suggests that Amir was in on the fix doesn’t it Mr Butt?”

    Butt: “Yes.”

    Jafferjee then talked about what he has repeatedly called “the performance” that followed Amir’s first no-ball, as Amir checked his spikes, examined the crease and Butt then arrived to sprinkle sawdust on the crease.

    Jafferjee: “You would agree it was a performance wouldn’t you Mr Butt?”

    Butt: “I didn’t bring the sawdust with me from the hotel. It is always there on the ground when the weather is damp.”

    “Yes no-balls are bowled accidentally, sawdust is there out on the ground and batsmen do tap the pitch,” Jafferjee hit back. “But what you and Majeed and Amir and Asif did was exploit things what normally happen out on the cricket pitch.”

    The prosecutor then reminded the jury of the text message that Majeed sent to the undercover News of the World reporter just before the third pre-planned no-ball was delivered. Because Amir was bowling beautifully and eventually reduced England to 47 for 5 in that first innings, Majeed texted to warn the journalist that the captain might tell Amir not to bowl that no-ball now because of the form he was in.

    Jafferjee concluded: “He (Majeed) was talking about you because you are in there controlling the players and particularly the youngest player out there – the impressionable Amir, Mr Butt. And you have been caught.”

    Although Butt defended himself consistently and stoically, he was forced to concede on several occasions that Majeed’s fixing-related messages to him were “annoying”. Jafferjee pressed him hard on why he never – in the messages before the court anyway – told Majeed that he would not tolerate it anymore.

    The night before he allegedly agreed to bat out a maiden at The Oval in the third Test – the night before they eventually won the match – was such an episode that Jafferjee focused on. On how when Majeed called him, unknowingly on speakerphone so the journalist could hear, to say: ‘You know the maiden over yeah?’ To which Butt went ‘Yeah’. Majeed continued, ‘Do one more’. It was then that Butt said, ‘No mate, just leave it.’ Butt did not bat out the maiden. Majeed contacted Butt again on the same subject the following morning, a Saturday, before Butt left for the ground.

    Jafferjee continually pressed Butt on why he did not respond more angrily to Majeed. “You were on the verge of a great win and you didn’t tell Majeed how annoyed you were by these messages?” Butt reasoned that he was focusing on the game and didn’t want to get into an awkward conversation at that time. Butt also said in the subsequent celebration dinner that Majeed attended along with “seven or eight” of the players he never mentioned the messages.

    Jafferjee was unimpressed by the answers he was receiving on the issue and at one point said: “You are lying your head off to this jury aren’t you Mr Butt?”

    Before the day ended, Butt’s lawyer Ali Bajwa QC told the court that some Pakistan numbers in the phone records during this time corresponded to calls Butt made to family, friends and former players including Imran Khan, who Butt admitted he would call for advice.

  25. #25 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 5:11 PM

    LOL Tom

    Both of us pasted the same article

  26. #26 by tom on October 19, 2011 - 5:22 PM

    No problem Khansahab

    Things dont look good for these guys. I read in BBC few days ago a sentence of 2-7 years plus fines may be delivered. Iam not feeling sorry for them but my anguish is because that Bastard Daatun Saqmal is roaming scot free. He is the biggest fixer, he destroyed the fabric of this team but thats the way justice is in this world- imperfect.

    Even I was wondering why he called Immy ? Maybe he has a share ( HAHA) !

    Secondly WTF this new zakat chairman is doing. Amidst all these developments, he shouldnt remain passive. It looks Zardari has appointed someone whos hooked on sedatives.

  27. #27 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 6:04 PM


    These events have now been happening for over a decade and we still complain why the world calls Pakistanis match fixers and ball tamperers.

  28. #28 by tom on October 19, 2011 - 8:19 PM


    Its a case of Mother protecting a spoiled brat- biased treatment by public and media has further corrupted Pakistani team.

  29. #29 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 8:22 PM


    They don’t know how to react appropriately.

    Either they just start worshipping their cricketers or they marginalise them like how they treated Asim Kamal, or how the PCB treated Shoaib Akhtar (although I hate Shoaib Akhtar for his stupidities and match losing potential).

  30. #30 by tom on October 19, 2011 - 8:30 PM

    Yes sir thats the nature of the beast. These societies are too mercurial in their approach- salute one day, slap the next day.

  31. #31 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 8:38 PM

    Saeed Anwar the strokemaker:

  32. #32 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 19, 2011 - 9:34 PM

    Whether it is 2-7 years or 2-7 months, the PCB must announce that these players are permanently banned from ALL forms of international and domestic cricket and they should also warn the media such as the TV companies NOT to hire them for any services related to cricket such as commentators, experts or even as a JAHIL culprit.

    This will not only boost the image of the PCB internationally but, it will also serve as a warning for those who try to do this in the future. NOT, only the fines but the properties and assets made from betting money must be confiscated. But, this must apply not for just cricket players but MaalDari log bhee iss may shamil hon.

  33. #33 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 19, 2011 - 9:41 PM


    Its a strange co-incidence that last night I watched the video clipping of Saeed Anwar’s 194 which included 22 fours and 5 sixes against India in Chennai and he hit Kumble 3 sixes in a row in which Kumble gave 24 runs in one over and he was taken off. I also saw his 107 against the WI. Its a shame that he had back problems and then he retired early because at one stage he had made 8000 runs faster than Tendullkar and his stroke play was a 100 times better than Tendulkar, also more graceful. His daughter’s death was a sad ending to his cricketing career. Then he joined Tableegh and started Mullahgiri. Reportedly, the first one to start among the cricket players is the Hanif Mohammad & Fazal Mahmood’s time player Saeed Ahmad, he approached Saeed Anwar and then Inzi, Mushy, etc., joined the club.

  34. #34 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 9:51 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Anwar was graceful and fluent and on his day he was a very attractive strokemaker.

    Tendulkar is different because his shots are not so much about grace, but expert execution. If you look at all of Anwar’s shots in the video I have pasted, he has benefited from enough room and good lengths. I am not saying it is child’s play to create a stroke, but many batsman can capitalise on that kind of bowling. Tendulkar creates shots off difficult balls which other batsmen would leave, or defend.

    I think they are both very different batsman- if you are comparing grace and style then Anwar is better but if you are talking about skill, I would have to disagree because there is a world of a difference.

  35. #35 by Aatma-hathya on October 19, 2011 - 10:13 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Yes, when Anwar was at his peak he was a better batsman than Tendulkar.

    Tendulkar sort of peaked when Anwar was declining as a batsman.

    In the mid to late 1990s SRT was pretty good- the only world class player in the Indian line up. But he peaked towards the end of 1990s really.

    Anwar’s best years were 1996-1998, he only came to the top for a few years but played some mesmerising knocks in that time. Remarkable that a player who had problems with footwork and who was so prone to edging to gully and slips made so many runs and dominated many bowlers.

    That is why he became one of my favourite players, because his batting was simply beautiful and he did so much despite having clear technical flaws.

    Mohammad Yousuf is considered to be a legendary batsman and he is known for his elegant strokes. His cover drives and cuts are elegant but in truth he is not a pressure player and averages quite low against certain teams. A bit like Anwar, Yousuf also truly peaked in one year when he made the most runs in a calender year. After that he lost form.

    Yousuf averages under 30 against Australia, South Africa and Sri Lanka, disappointingly, in Tests. Perhaps this indicates he is not a great player of quality pace and spin?

  36. #36 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 20, 2011 - 12:02 AM


    No one played like Viv Richards played in the gaps, but if you must see that innings of 194 played by Saeed Anwar and also the one he scored 107 against WI, you will see that playing through the gaps is not easy. It looked like he played uppish but the ball went through that gap @ the speed of light. Since Tendulkar has so many runs, centuries and records which makes him stand head and shoulders above all, so when you compare him with others, people especially Indian fans say, there is NO IFS AND BUTS here, it is true that he is a record holder but, he is neither an entertainer, nor a pressure player. And, quantity alone is the not the main thing that makes a cricketer GREAT, It is grace, poise, beauty, style, elegance and on top of that stroke making that makes him a player to watch and enjoy and it is not a child’s play. When you talk about Dhoni’s game there is no style, no grace, no nothing, in fact there is a lot of ugliness in his shots, it appears that he gets off-balanced after playing his shots and might fall on the ground. Since Saeed Anwar retired so early there is no need to compare him with anyone, he is one of his kind.

    I remember Allan Border once said in his interview that in ODI, our biggest problem is to contain Saeed Anwar during the first 15 overs, because he can flick the ball over the circle so easily that we find ourselves helpless. He was the pioneer of these shots whereas, Jayasuriya and Kaluwitharna took it from there and they are called the trendsetters. Anyways, since then the game has changed, Sehwag changed Indian batting style, before him there were tuk, tuk, players. And, that is why even Tendulkar could not do much and Indian side always ended up on the losing end because they could not get a flying start.

  37. #37 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 20, 2011 - 3:57 AM

    WASIM AKRAM in that modelling dress looks like a REAL HIJRA.

    God knows who thinks he is handsome? If Wasim was anywhere near like, Fazal Mahmood the great, the most handsome cricketer, Imran Khan the charismatic or like, Afridi the crowd puller good looking guy, then Wasim’s one step would be on the sky and the other in Sushmita’s wherever.

    Throughout this court proceedings in London, all the photos of Salman Butt that have appeared in the newspapers etc,. he is carrying a kinda arrogant smirk on his face. There is no remorse, no guilt, there is so much DHATAYEE, CHORI AUR USS PAY SEENA ZORI. He is one of those characters who IF caught red handed doing any crime, will deny and say that its not him.

  38. #38 by Mohammed Munir on October 20, 2011 - 4:19 AM

    Javed Khan …

    DHATAYEE and CHORI AUR USS PAY SEENA ZORI. Well, talk about this … 😉

    Jafferjee was unimpressed by the answers he was receiving on the issue and at one point said: “You are lying your head off to this jury aren’t you Mr Butt?”

  39. #39 by mehmudah on October 20, 2011 - 6:26 AM

    Hey All. Jafferjee is a cool guy, he speaks my mind. I wish he’d also pack a few full-bodied punches to Butt! By the way, Legslip is now on my blogroll, under the column ‘blogs i enjoy reading’

  40. #40 by Mohammed Munir on October 20, 2011 - 6:42 AM

    Mehmudah …

    I hope the next upgrade for LS will be to … “blogs where you regularly contribute”. 😉

    BTW, welcome to LS.

  41. #41 by Mohammed Munir on October 20, 2011 - 6:45 AM

    Just a laugh …

    10 years ago the average American had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash.

    Today they have no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash. 😆

  42. #42 by Mohammed Munir on October 20, 2011 - 7:29 AM

    We all know that Misbah is well-known for his slow batting, so Cricinfo’s commentator has found a new suitable name for our Captain … Misbah-ul-Block 😉

  43. #43 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 9:15 AM

    Younis Khan dismissd……..

    He was batting at a strike rate of 35 or something so the next batsman in can’t possibly bat any slower.

    Pakistan has this new strategy of batting as slowly as possible but as seen in the case of Younis it will not always work to their advantage.

    Younis is definitely past his prime- he is only in the team because he is a yes man. Either he plays very slowly or if he tries to accelerate he gets out.

  44. #44 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 9:27 AM

    Lakmal into the attack, Misbah looking threatening.

  45. #45 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 9:29 AM

    Mediocre Taufeeq cuts a wide and slow ball, he thinks it’s a great shot

  46. #46 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 9:36 AM

    Sri Lankan pace bowling is like the standard of Bangladesh.


  47. #47 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 9:40 AM

    Dilshan has brought another paceman into the attack for Misbah because he knows Misbah is weak vs pace.

  48. #48 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 9:42 AM

    Good shot by Misbah to point.

    Misbah and Taufeeq are the 7th and 8th highest scoreres in Test cricket in 2011, this is what you get by playing minnows.

    Can you believe it, Tendulkar is no 10- no matter what happens he is always in the top 5 or top 10.

  49. #49 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 9:50 AM

    Younis looked not out to me.

    Don’t feel the ball straightened enough to hit off.

    Should have been given benefit of the doubt

  50. #50 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 9:51 AM

    That’s a poor fielding“: Waqar Younis

  51. #51 by tom on October 20, 2011 - 9:51 AM

    Sachin has scored the most runs in test cricket but quality is better than quantity

  52. #52 by tom on October 20, 2011 - 9:54 AM


    somebody has to pay for Taufiq’s good fortune. he was out yesterday but he is still there thanks to the umpire.

    I found here that Mr mud balls is doing commentary. Wasnt he told by a doctors to a rest and To be a KEEP in a house. Drama!

  53. #53 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 9:54 AM


    The writer Mazher Arshad uses SRT’s centuries against minnows to justify his argument about “quality” but does not take into account other batsmen’s 100s against minnows such as Jayasuria, Lara and Inzamam.

    Analysis should be fair.

  54. #54 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 9:56 AM

    “They enjoying themselves why not“: Waqar Younis

  55. #55 by tom on October 20, 2011 - 9:57 AM

    One shouldnt feel baffled by Butt’s stubborness. Crooks are appointed presidents, ministers in Pakistan and they dont even blink when confronted by charges of corruption. Butt is just showing the true face of a corrupt system.

  56. #56 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 10:04 AM

    They’re talking about Malinga and his style of bowling

    Malinga is a joke of a bowler and a disgrace to cricket

  57. #57 by Mohammed Munir on October 20, 2011 - 10:06 AM

    Younis Khan is a very humble, docile and rather subservient Pathan, the qualities which are rare in Pakhtoon species.

  58. #58 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 10:09 AM

    “Misbah loves the reverse sweep and gets it right most of the time”: Waqar Younis

    That comment from Waqar can be taken positively or negative but as always, only Waqar knows what he meant 😉

  59. #59 by Mohammed Munir on October 20, 2011 - 10:49 AM

    For once Misbah played an unselfish innings by scoring a quick 46 off only 52 balls, that too when all players around him were dead-slow. And all he gets is an unfair out. This is what Cricinfo had to say on Misbah’s unfortunate out …

    Herath to Misbah-ul-Haq, OUT, Misbah goes back with a wry smile on his face. <b<This one pitches outside leg, turns a mile, Misbah is well forward, feeling for it. PJ goes up immediately in a huge shout, Tony Hill waits before raising his finger. Misbah doesn’t look pleased. First replay didn’t seem to support Hill. That’s gone off the shot sleeve. No edge at all. A breezy 46 nonetheless. Not a Test for captains, both have been sawn off

    I think the Umpires are doing the balancing act for the chances given to Toufiq, by giving other batsmen out (Younis & Misbah) when they were actually not out. Somedays, I think cricket is more like WWF, NOT FAIR. 😉

    Asad Shafiq had scored 1 run off 15 balls, so far. 😦

    Toufiq is dead-slow in hope of reaching his double century (he is on 193). 😦

  60. #60 by tom on October 20, 2011 - 10:49 AM


    That objection is answered in that blog. Even with that adjustment, SRT is below other batsmen. He is very great but genuine questions are raised about his match winning and pressure situation innings. Tour of England is a prime example where he faltered under pressure.

  61. #61 by tom on October 20, 2011 - 10:52 AM

    Well Misbah you played quicker than the WC semifinal .It just shows how conceited u r.


    are you watching the match for cricketing reasons or for Waqar’s commentary? This is a not a fair, making a fun of my a commentary.

  62. #62 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 11:34 AM

    Shafiq is trying to show Misbah that THIS is the way to bat….

    9 off 54 deliveries

    Misbah played an uncharacteristic knock but was bound to get out sooner or later.

  63. #63 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 11:35 AM


    I am sitting in my a room and as I don’t have any a keep here I am a bored, so watching the a match.

  64. #64 by Mohammed Munir on October 20, 2011 - 11:49 AM

    Piyaasi Aatma …

    Yaar, Misbah was given out wrongly, give the guy some credit here. 😉

    Asad Shafiq … 10 valuable runs of 68 deliveries. 😦 😦 😦

  65. #65 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 12:29 PM

    Not only has Shafiq played pathetically he has also run Taufeeq out.

  66. #66 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 12:40 PM

    Pakistan strike first ball.

    Innings victory beckons

  67. #67 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 12:43 PM

    He was not out

  68. #68 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 12:45 PM

    “I would like to look at the ball in a normal speed”,: Waqar Younis

  69. #69 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 12:49 PM

    This man Cheema, he is a good bowler.

  70. #70 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 1:03 PM

    This man Gul, he is a good bowler.

  71. #71 by tom on October 20, 2011 - 4:17 PM

    A Khansahab

    This man A khansahab, he is a good blogger. I seen a lot of a mud blogs but not a KEEP.

  72. #72 by tom on October 20, 2011 - 4:27 PM

    India vs England

    match going down the wire

    india need 53 from 5 overs with 5 wkts

    Khansahab whats ur pick?

  73. #73 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 8:52 PM


    My pick is India…….now that it has been 3-4 hours since the match has ended 🙂

    India always looked like winning this one when Rahanne and Gambhir were playing responsibly and also keeping the run rate going.

  74. #74 by tom on October 20, 2011 - 9:10 PM


    Im not impressed with this English side. we have discussed this before and although they are nlot no1 in ODI but they thrashed india 3-0. now they have lost 3-0 with 2 matches to go. I mean look at Australia when they were no1 in90’s and last decade. They were dominant everywhere and even if they lost, it was never one sided. Teams were scared of them and this English side looks only dominant at home. The way pakistan is playing against Sri lanka, I dont think England will be able to thrash Paqkistan when they meet in UAE for tests next year. Pakistan may infact beat them while thatb was never the case with Australia.

  75. #75 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 20, 2011 - 9:27 PM

    I have been out since morning, almost all day. Just going through the comments on the blog and the score card on cricinfo. Last night one of my cousins was asking me, how come you are not watching cricket on TV? I said, I have lost interest in the game and got my Sat. TV dish disconnected.

    I may be absent from the blog for 4-5 days due to some unavoidable and important work, but I will try to read it through my cell phone, so please keep writing and keep posting your comments.

    Best regards

  76. #76 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 20, 2011 - 9:27 PM

    I have been out since morning, almost all day. Just going through the comments on the blog and the score card on cricinfo. Last night one of my cousins was asking me, how come you are not watching cricket on TV? I said, I have lost interest in the game and got my Sat. TV dish disconnected.

    I may be absent from the blog for 4-5 days due to some unavoidable and important work, but I will try to read it through my cell phone, so please keep writing and keep posting your comments.

    Best regards

  77. #77 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 9:30 PM


    I agree; England have never been a dominant side away from home. But I wasn’t expecting them to fail like this. Without Stuart Broad, Anderson and Tremlett their bowling looks weak and even Swann can’t trouble Indian batsmen on Indian soil. I actually feel these Test type bowlers like Anderson and Tremlett will work better against Indian batsmen but I don’t know whether they are injured or whether they were just sidelined.

    I think it is premature to judge how England might perform against Pakistan because the Pakistan and Sri Lanka series is only in its 4th day. What is happening at the moment is very unusual because Pakistan has so far given many surprises- Taufeeq hit a double (although he got a few lifelines), Misbah played swiftly, fielders did not drop any catches, Umar Gul looked threatening etc and these are way too many positives for one match.

    I think it will be difficult for Pakistan to maintain this dream run. But, Sri Lanka Test bowling is absolutely pathetic and it is at the level of Bangladesh. Munaf & Co are better than them.

    England has now realised that scoring 300 is not enough to beat India- they really need 325 or over. Their pace bowlers are unable to restrict Gambhir, Kohli and Dhoni etc.

  78. #78 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 9:40 PM

    Mohammad Asif confirmed in his evidence today that there had been a fight between Umar Gul and Mohd Aamer.

    This was reported in the press and also discussed on this blog.

  79. #79 by Aatma-hathya on October 20, 2011 - 9:45 PM

    This is just stupid.

    We hear from Butt’s defence (of which Abdul Qadir’s evidence is a part) that Butt comes from a decent family and is educated at an English school, and he is a man of principles and honesty.

    Yet his text messages to people and dialogue with his team mates on the field are apparently filled with swear words in Punjabi.

  80. #80 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 20, 2011 - 10:32 PM


    Pls. enlighten me with by providing more details on Aamer and Gul fight? I do remember Aamir yelling back at Younus Khan against SA in the WC T20 i.e., when Aamir after bowling, went on his follow through, whereas he should have been quickly back behind the wickets for a run out possibility. Fawad Alam threw the ball and missed the stumps by inches and Aamir was yelling at him for not hitting the stumps, YK was captain then came to him and told him that it was his duty to stay behind the stumps and he was seen shouting and yelling at YK and he was also heard saying, “People call me future Wasim Akram and you are telling me that tum abhee mature nahee hoye?” ( Then he considered himself as matured and now he thinks he is APNI MAA KA BHOLA aur MASOOM BUCCHA.) I remember Umar Gul was calm, composed and he was talking to Aamir and mediating between the two. So, is there any other incident which I don’t remember?

  81. #81 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 21, 2011 - 1:15 AM

    Abdul Qadir himself has no credibility and no educational background, if Salman Butt has studied in “some” English medium school like Tiny Tot or Beacon House, that does not mean he is “EDDOOCATED“. I don’t understand this stupid notion that if one can speak a little bit of English compared to the other uneducated, uncouth, Urdu medium Butt Tameez, then he is considered as a superhero among them? I have heard so many paindoos here who say, “O jee Jeda Pra Waqarrr et Waseem kinni furr furr Angrezi bolday ayen, lagdaiye nai A Pakastani bolra aye !! OMG, both of them have such strong desi accent and they cannot speak one proper sentence in English without making grammatical mistakes.

    As regards Salman Butt’s family background there are lot of people who are from Lahore talk about their dubious background which involves from horse race bookie to betting. There is no need to talk about his father or his family background, khansahab has already mentioned about the F words used in the text messages. Secondly Mother Majeed has confirmed that Salman Butt the moment he used to meet him, he used to ask for 3 things. Money, Girls and Good Food. This is so typical of an AYEAASH INSAAN. Prostrating in front of the crowd or “TV camera after making hundred is a DHONG and DHAKOSLA, FRAUD AND ACT. So, don’t be misled by that.


  82. #82 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 21, 2011 - 1:34 AM

    HAHAHAHAHAHA, This is hilarious, this is really funny, I mean something that I have quoted as point 2 in this comment:

    1. It is just like Wasim Akram and Waqar Younus were saying on TV while commentating that SO AND SO BAMBOOED SO AND SO. Instead of Bamboozled (which means to deceive or mislead) they said BAMBOOED, which is an Urdu word with a wrong connotation, in fact it is a very abusive word, which according to our culture, one cannot even mention in front of elders or teachers and these two W & W DUMB AND DUMBER idiots kept repeating and kept laughing.


    2. “We are told that if Mumbai is Mecca then Karachi is Madina for bookies. It is this chaotic setting that the illegal bookies (the ones behind the dodgy bets, rigged matches and endemic corruption that are eating away at the “gentleman’s game”) call home.”

    In English Language, Mecca does not mean Holy Mecca BUT, it is referred as a place that is regarded as the center of an activity or interest. This idiot used it as Mumbai and Karachi for Mecca and Medina. WHAT A FOOL?

  83. #83 by tom on October 21, 2011 - 8:33 AM


    Catches are being dropped so its back to square one. Draw also seems a possibility.

  84. #84 by Aatma-hathya on October 21, 2011 - 10:49 AM


    On this blog I have been saying for a long time that Pakistan’s major problem in Tests is that they can’t exert pressure for more than a few sessions in a Test match.

    You need to be able to apply yourself and concentrate for a long time whether it is batting or fielding.

    That is why they drop so many catches.

    They can do two things to overcome the fielding problems. Either only select those players for international level who have a good fielding record at domestic level. This is something recommended by Afridi too who claims that you will not have good fielders unless the players themselves enjoy fielding.

    Or you can just make a separate Test team with Test-mentality players. This means no 30-40 run players like Misbah, Shafiq and Malik and all rounders with the ability of someone like Hafeez who can currently score 30-40 consistently and also take a few wickets here and there.

    Unless they act on the above two strategies I don’t see this Test team rising in the ranks. They will keep hovering around West Indies and New Zealand.

    Of course, they can get rid of the match losers like Misbah, Malik, Farhat etc which will automatically improve the situation.

  85. #85 by Aatma-hathya on October 21, 2011 - 10:51 AM

    Javed A Khan

    I don’t know anything more about the Gul and Aamer fight except that reportedly some senior players had to intervene and calm the players. That is all that was reported but we did discuss it on this blog.

  86. #86 by Aatma-hathya on October 21, 2011 - 10:54 AM

    What has happened to Saeed Ajmal?

    He could guarantee at least 2-3 wickets at one time.

    Has he lost the fire or have the opposition figured him out?

    He looks helplessly innocuous now.

  87. #87 by Aatma-hathya on October 21, 2011 - 10:59 AM


    This shows why only one or two sessions in Test matches can just change the outcome of a match.

    3-4 dropped catches in 1 or 2 sessions now mean that there is a possibility the match can be drawn.

    Now those who are going crazy about the class of Misbah as a batsman or his professionalism as a captain- will they blame Misbah’s captaincy for the morale of the players if Pakistan end up drawing this match?

    30 overs remaining in the day and Sri Lanka’s most in form batsmen are playing. Sri Lanka need 102 runs to enforce a lead against Pakistan.

  88. #88 by Aatma-hathya on October 21, 2011 - 11:35 AM

    Gul strikes with the new ball, this is encouraging because SL are still 80 runs behind.

  89. #89 by Aatma-hathya on October 21, 2011 - 6:18 PM

    Imran supports Butt’s claim in fixing trial

    Islamabad: Pakistan great Imran Khan has confirmed that banned Test captain Salman Butt used to call him up from England to discuss strategies on the 2010 tour.

    Butt, who is facing a trial on charges of cheating and corruption in London, told the jury on Wednesday that he used to call up Imran to take advice from him.

    “Yes, Salman called me up a couple of times from England last year to discuss cricket issues and strategies for the matches. I remember telling him all the time that he must give priority to getting Younis Khan into the team,” Khan told reporters.

    Butt had informed the court that he was on the phone with Imran on the day and time when it is alleged that Pakistani agent and bookmaker Mazhar Majeed handed over 10,000 pounds in cash, concealed in a jacket, to pacer Wahab Riaz outside a restaurant in London.

    Butt told the jury he didn’t know anything about the alleged cash transaction since he was busy talking to Imran at that time.

    Imran also expressed dismay over the state of affairs in the PCB and said Pakistan cricket could only move forward if the PCB was turned into an institution.

    “There is a dire need to convert the Board into a proper institution where the chairman and other officials are accountable and answerable for their actions,” he said.

    Imran said there had always been chaos in the Board and the situation had only gotten worse.

    “Cricket needs to be an institution and until that happens, we’ll always have chaos. You can’t have an institution when the president of the country, who knows nothing about cricket, appoints the chairman. It’s run on ad-hoc basis and you’ll only go from crisis to crisis with that.”

    Imran also criticised the move to appoint chief selector Mohsin Khan as the interim coach of the national team as the PCB continues its search for a new head coach to take over the spot left vacant with the resignation of Waqar Younis after the Zimbabwe tour.

    “It’s pointless how you’re spending so much on the coach. You need to have a proper structure in place before moving onto other things. The Board is reflecting the current state of our society.

    “You need someone to fix the structure, then have free and fair elections and form a genuine elected body. That’s how the whole cricketing world works and that’s what we need as well,” he said.

  90. #90 by Aatma-hathya on October 21, 2011 - 9:36 PM

    Some statistics about Umar Gul:

    In 36 Tests he has only taken four 5 wicket hauls. That is one haul per 9 matches. Shoaib Akhtar took one per 5.5 matches, Asif took one per just over 3 matches.

    Since the beginning of 2007 he has only taken one 5 wicket haul.

    With a bowling average of 27 and a strike rate of 48, Gul somehow performs much better at home than abroad where he averages 38 and has a strike rate of 66.

  91. #91 by tom on October 22, 2011 - 4:06 PM

    A Khansahab

    A very ordinary performance from Paskistan. They had the match in their hands but poor fielding, slow batting, flat bowling and poor umpiring led to a draw. Misbah’s captaincy also lacked imagination. Sri lanka must have gained confidence from this draw for the remaining matches.

  92. #92 by tom on October 22, 2011 - 4:10 PM

    Ayaash Insaan ” girls, Good food, money, booze …”

    Sounds Familiar

    A zardari eye stripping palin, An intoxicated musharraf or altaf having a press conference, Gilani spending 8 crores on a dinner for angelina jolie (when she came for UN flood relief), Nawaz’s assests etc. Butt is just a pawn in a corrupt set up.Its just a glimpse of the CORROSIVENESS OF PAKISTANI SOCIETY.

  93. #93 by Aatma-hathya on October 22, 2011 - 9:11 PM

    This man Tom,

    This is not the first time something like this has happened in Misbah’s captaincy. He is an unimaginative captain and I don’t think he can think properly under pressure. His batting was good in this match but he needs to instill the killer instinct in his players.

    Obviously now SL will come much stronger at Pakistan in the forthcoming Test. Pakistan’s saving grace may be to arrange for a green top (if possible in UAE) so that the pacers can exercise some seam advantage, otherwise we don’t want another boring draw.

  94. #94 by Aatma-hathya on October 22, 2011 - 9:15 PM

    This man Tom, he is a good blogger,

    What about Waqar’s coaching? He got a hero’s farewell but what has he taught the players? Why couldn’t the pacers create more chances on day 5? And why no killer instinct in the team? Why do fielding problems still persist?

    Isn’t it the coach’s job (as well as the captain’s) to ensure the above don’t happen regularly?

  95. #95 by Aatma-hathya on October 22, 2011 - 9:17 PM

    Bookie Majeed approached me, claims Afridi

    Karachi: Former Pakistan captain Shahid Afridi has revealed that alleged bookmaker Mazhar Majeed, who is at the centre of a spot-fixing scandal since last year, approached him and tried to befriend him several times in the past.

    “He made several attempts to get friendly and close to me. But every time he tried to do this I ticked him off with some straight talk,” Afridi said.

    The seasoned all-rounder said he had never trusted Majeed, who although based in the United Kingdom, worked as agent for some Pakistani players, three of whom — Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir — have been banned by ICC for their role in spot-fixing and also face further penalties in a crown court trial, which is going on in London.

  96. #96 by Ayyash-Aatma on October 23, 2011 - 7:13 AM

    Mr Aatma-hathya, The word “Aatam-hathya” is a hindi word which means Suicide or “Khudkhushi” (Aatam=self and Hathya=killing). Aatma-hathya has a totally different meaning (Aatma=spirit or “rooh”) and to be frank, is not even a word. Not a big deal at all, but I thought I let you know since you are using it as a pseudonym. Have fun!

  97. #97 by tom on October 23, 2011 - 9:27 AM

    Ayaash Aatma

    I dont know much about hindi and i was also under the same impression that Aatma hatya means suicide. However, spirits cant indulge in carnal passions ie Ayyaashi, so Ayyash Aatmas dont exist. Having said that, a pseudonym is just a pseudonym, its not supposed to make sense. Anyway, my comment is as light hearted as yours! Thank you for enlightening us

  98. #98 by Aatma-hathya on October 23, 2011 - 9:27 AM


    bahuth bahuth dhanevaad apney vichaar bataney ka. maye aap ko iss mansh legslip par swaagat karta hoon.

    bhaiyaa yeh bhi ho sakta hai key maye hindi baasha ka jada prayog kar raha hoon

    yadi kuch aisa bhi ho sakta hai ki purn janam mai amawas ki raat ke samay kisi raakshas ya aghoree nai bhoot ko amantrith kiya tha aur meri hathya kardi thi aur uss key baad meri aatma ko mukti nahi mili?

    bhooth preth par vishwaas hai aap ko?

  99. #99 by tom on October 23, 2011 - 9:31 AM

    A khansahab

    You are spot on In pointing out fallacies of Waqar’s coaching. I think you havent given credit where waqar led to improvement in players- English. Players English must have definitely improved.

    Secondly, players are enjoying

    They enjoying themselves, why not

  100. #100 by tom on October 23, 2011 - 9:36 AM

    A Khansahab

    i would offer a my a services for a ” mukiti for your aatma” !

    BTW whats a Aghoree?

  101. #101 by Aatma-hathya on October 23, 2011 - 11:43 AM


    Aghoree’s are some people in India who supposedly practise black magic, voodoo etc.

    They are like mystics and wanderers and are considered controversial due to their association with the dark arts.

  102. #102 by Aatma-hathya on October 23, 2011 - 11:46 AM

    Seems like a total failure for England in India.

    Can’t play pace or spin.

    Can’t contain the Indian batsmen.

    Basically a reversal of what happened to India in England, but perhaps not as shocking because Indian players are well versed with England pitches and so should have performed better.

  103. #103 by Aatma-hathya on October 23, 2011 - 11:51 AM


    10 years ago Pakistan had a 68% success record in UAE. I am guessing the percentage has not altered much.

    If they draw this Test series then it will be a failure for Waqar, Misbah and Ijaz Butt’s Pakistan team.

    I don’t even think they have such a great record within Pakistan.

  104. #104 by tom on October 23, 2011 - 12:02 PM


    I said earlier The English team is only strong at home- not as potent as windies or Aussies when they were no1. You are right in pointing out that India was supposed to play better in England than England in India.

    Still the brand of cricket England played gave the impression that it would be a tough ODI series, but it has been too one sided.

    Second test is crucial for Pakistan as a suspect Batting lineup may falter specially if a green pitch is made.

  105. #105 by tom on October 23, 2011 - 12:06 PM

    a Khansahab

    Do you believe in these black magic, bhoot stuff or you think its more hyped. The progress man has made in science has exposed to an extent the myth associated with these things. IMO man is the most fascinating object on this planet. This is not to say that iam undermining other creatures or denying alien life forms but within human beings there is so much complexity that it surpasses all these jadoo wadoo etc.,

  106. #106 by tom on October 23, 2011 - 1:00 PM

    England bundled out for 220. What an ordinary performance. indian batting has to collapse for an upset.

  107. #107 by tom on October 23, 2011 - 3:58 PM

    England once again floored by India. This is embarrasing- one sided contest. You dont expect an international side to lose like this after they beat the opposition 4-0 in ODIs at home.

  108. #108 by tom on October 23, 2011 - 4:13 PM

  109. #109 by tom on October 23, 2011 - 8:09 PM

    One reason for England’s poor performance is their batting. Here is a stat which would interest cricket fans


    1st ODI: 174 in 36.1 overs

    2nd ODI: 237 in 48.2 overs

    3rd ODI: 298 in 50 overs

    4th ODI: 220 in 46.2 overs

    It is evident that Batsmen didnt play to their potential as they failed to bat out 50 overs in 3 out of 4 matches- evidence of lack of proficiency on sub continent pitches.

  110. #110 by Aatma-hathya on October 23, 2011 - 8:43 PM

    This man Tom, he is looking for a room,

    About voodoo and black magic, I am really unsure whether they exist. I guess if I don’t come across them I will not be convinced they exist. It seems black magic has mention in the Hadith whereas Jinn are obviously mentioned in the Quran.

    Yeah, advancement in science obviously makes voodoo and magic less relevant.

    I do believe in the supernatural to some extent but only in the remit of Jinn. I suppose the majority of Muslims believe that if anything supernatural or spooky happens then it will be due to Jinn.

    However those who claim to have come across voodoo and “jadoo tona” appear very convincing when relating their experiences.

  111. #111 by Aatma-hathya on October 23, 2011 - 8:47 PM


    Yeah, England should have put up a better fight. I don’t know why they are playing so many debutantes. I don’t think many of their players were injured? Why couldn’t they play the same team that beat India at home?

    However the result is very positive for India because their pacers are performing and so are their spinners.

    You always expected their batsmen to perform in India but it is the bowling unit which has really surprised.

    I think England are heavily reliant on Kieswetter in ODI’s to boost the batting but he is not performing.

  112. #112 by Aatma-hathya on October 23, 2011 - 8:54 PM


    You mentioned about man being the most fascinating creature.

    Einstein said that imagination is more important than knowledge and it is certainly true. 20 years ago 3-D visual technology could only be dreamed about, now we know that it is the next generation of visual technology.

    Amazing how some people in the world now live lives where they have smartphones, satellite navigation technology etc whereas some people in this world have been undereducated, underfed and undernourished for generations with no prospect of their lives ever changing.

  113. #113 by tom on October 23, 2011 - 9:15 PM


    If a man in 2000 BC saw an aeroplane flying, he would have definitely thought of it being supernatural or may be black magic.

    the disparity you are referring to is due to the fact that man’s evil nature is one static entity in the whole paradigm. Technology is used for gaining superiority rather than benefiting mankind.

    It is possible what we havent understood, we consider it to be magic. I once saw a documentary about an archaeological item called ” Ark of Covenant”. It was a box which was prophet Moses and then from prophet Dawood went to Prophet Sulaiman. It was then lost and is still not found. the box had two corners and sparks used to travel from one corner to other. Modern researchers believe it was a capacitor. you can google it to find more about it if it intrigues you.

    I once read in a book about sufism the following line which i think summarizes a lot what we hear (black magic, voodoo, taweez etc)


  114. #114 by tom on October 23, 2011 - 9:22 PM

    A khansahab

    It seems England’s rendezvous with no1 ranking will be quite short. Somebody else will topple the English side and then it will be musical chairs for a couple of years as no international team looks likely to remain no1 for long periods.

    Your query about England’s former players like jimmy, broad etc.Well anderson gets a lot of punishment on indian pitrches as we saw in WC. Broad is injured and he would have made an impact but thats no excuse as india had many frontline injuries. Primarily it is the batting which has flopped as i pointed out with that stat. Bresnan doesnt look that threatening as pitches are not so bouncy. swann is handled with disdain so England are struggling.

  115. #115 by tom on October 23, 2011 - 9:31 PM

    Everything about Pakistan is not negative; some positive things are also happening

  116. #116 by tom on October 24, 2011 - 8:13 AM

  117. #117 by Aatma-hathya on October 24, 2011 - 11:08 AM


    It is an interesting list but 99% of the names could have been guessed by most cricket fans- the writer has done an elaborate analysis but the result is the same.

    Interestingly Yousuf features in the top batsmen post 2000, he always looked like a minnow basher to me. His Test credentials are dubious because of his under-30 averages against Australia, SA and Sri Lanka. In ODI’s he is probably Pakistan’s most consistent batsman.

    I don’t rate him highly in Tests- if you compare him with SRT whom people have claimed is not a great Test player, SRT is heads and shoulders above him.

  118. #118 by Aatma-hathya on October 24, 2011 - 11:10 AM

    Reportedly PCB made an offer to Dav Whatmore but he made a counter offer asking for more money.

    He will not come cheap but he also has to show the results.

    Pakistan seems to perform the same way whether they have a reputable coach or not.

  119. #119 by Aatma-hathya on October 24, 2011 - 1:05 PM

    Tendulkar had been surprisingly fragile, writes Chappell in his new book

    Former India coach Greg Chappell, in his new book “Fierce Focus”, claims batting maestro Sachin Tendulkar has occasionally been mentally fragile.

    Tendulkar is idolised by millions in India and the cricket world, and is considered the best batsman in the cricket history. But the Australian legend has revealed a different side of the cricketer ahead of India’s four—Test tour of Australia this summer, Herald Sun reported.

    “At one point early in my time with the (Indian) team … he came and talked to me for about two hours,” Chappell wrote in the book.

    “He was frustrated with his form and racked with self—doubt. Since he’d come back in Malaysia (in a one—day tournament in 2006), Sachin’s mental state had been surprisingly fragile and he came to me for help.

    “When the team travelled, he would snap on his headphones, not look sideways, and shut it all out. Not even Don Bradman carried expectations like this, and Sachin had been bearing it since 1989.

    “He just couldn’t get any rest. Once we were talking … and I said, ‘You must have so many friends, it must be hard finding time to keep in touch with all of them’. He looked me in the eye and said, ‘Greg, you would have more friends in India than I’ve got’,” Chappell writes.

  120. #120 by Aatma-hathya on October 24, 2011 - 1:07 PM


    Look what this beautiful temptress is up to:

    Veena Malik meets sex workers

    After all the controversies in “Bigg Boss 4” and shooting an item song, Pakistani model Veena Malik has bagged the biographical role of a sex worker.

    Veena will be playing the role of sex worker Madhuri, who has been moonlighting for years to support her family.

    The actress has been very quietly meeting sex workers here, particularly Madhuri, for the film “Zindagi 50-50”.

    I am not dating Ashmit: Veena Malik

    They’ve been spotted hitting town together often, prompting rumours of a relationship. But B-town couple Veena Malik and Ashmit Patel, who were recently seen visiting the Ajmer Sharif Dargah, have managed to dodge questions about the status of their relationship, until now.

    TOI quizzed Veena about her recent trip with Ashmit, and she clarified, “I didn’t go to Ajmer, I went to the Nizamuddin Auliya in Delhi to pray and Ashmit happened to be there for a friend’s wedding. Ashmit has a great regard for all religions and even in the Bigg Boss house we used to do namaz together. So he decided to come with me to the dargah.”

    Tell her that rumour mills are abuzz that she and Ashmit are all set to tie the knot next year and Veena is aghast. “Ashmit is a good friend. He’s the guy I rely on for everything. In fact, Ashmit is my only friend in India. We are very close to each other and he cares for me, but I am not dating him. Just because we are seen together and hang out doesn’t mean we are in love. There are, however, lots of things that we plan to do together, like charity work in Pakistan,” she said and added, “I am totally single.”

    Go vegetarian, urges Veena Malik

    Pakistani actress Veena Malik is urging people to give up meat and turn vegetarian as she poses for the new PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) ad campaign.

    “I am Veena Malik and I am a vegetarian,” Veena, who shot to fame with her stint in the fourth season of reality show ” Bigg Boss”, proudly says in the ad.

  121. #121 by tom on October 24, 2011 - 4:38 PM


    Actors are supposed to act regardless of the role. I dont find anything wrong with that. Affairs are common for film industry people and her comment on vegetarian reflects her mental calibre which was never considered top grade. We dont need a maulvi for her, she’s doing what many in bollywood and lollywood have done before.

  122. #122 by tom on October 24, 2011 - 4:42 PM

    A khansahab

    Yes one could have guessed these names but to rate them is never easy. The analysis is special in this regard.

    I dont know which people rate yousuf above tendulkar. tendulkar is definitely better than him, but Yousuf has 2 test records which I feel should have tendulkar’s name- most runs in a calendar year, most centuries in a calendar year. These are no small achievements but still I rate tendulkar above yousuf.

  123. #123 by Aatma-hathya on October 24, 2011 - 6:04 PM


    In Pakistan they would not make a Lollywood film about “sex workers” as such. Of course they have “tawaif” and mujrey in their movies, but covering the life of a sex worker (with frequent recourse to sexual language and perhaps some sex scenes) would be a no-no.

    And this vegetarianism is totally due to living in India and becoming friendly with Hindus. I don’t condemn vegetarianism but I am just trying to highlight how different life is in India and Pakistan. Her drama on Big Boss and the drama with the moulvi on TV was just a passport to get her working in India and because she is wiling to show skin, do outrageous things and butter the right side of the bread, she is gaining recognition in India.

    Of course what she is doing is nothing new, but I am just emphasising her insincerity.

  124. #124 by tom on October 24, 2011 - 6:16 PM

    A khansahab

    I dont think sluts are expected to demonstrate patriotism or sincerity. She’s cashing herself in a bigger market and she hasnt got many years left. Obviuosly to get a better response she has to adopt Indian trends and As raised on this blog we have wasims, adnans, rahats marketing themselves in India and they are no sluts.

  125. #125 by tom on October 24, 2011 - 6:23 PM

    A khansahab

    Our maulvis watch movies and they would take out rallies if they find overt movies about sex. They will do this after watching the whole movie (HEHE..). You know there is a joke about a priest. I dont know whether you heard it before or not but I will briefly narrate it

    priest goes to a nude beach and wants to give a sermon. He’s told that access is only provided to naked people so Priest strips off and puts a hat on his D..k and uses both his hands so that the hat may not fall. he calls everybody and naked men and women come. He starts lecturing with both his hands on the hat> After sometime all the people bow their heads in shame but they dont notice the fact that PRIEST IS GESTICULATING WITH BOTH HANDS AND HAT REMAINS FIXED ON HIS D..k.

  126. #126 by tom on October 25, 2011 - 4:39 PM

    A khansahab

    England raped in India. What a humiliation! 5-0

    Dhoni man of the series. hes not been dismissed in entire series. experts are calling him best ODI player.

  127. #127 by tom on October 25, 2011 - 4:42 PM

  128. #128 by tom on October 25, 2011 - 4:50 PM

    MS Dhoni and England’s angry men
    In which India’s captain pays a visit to the opposition dressing room

    MS Dhoni knocked on the door of the England dressing room.

    “Good evening, Alastair. Good evening, everybody,” he said. “Perhaps you would care to join us for a light supper?”

    Steven Finn leapt to his feet and began shouting and swearing angrily. “I hate supper. You can shove your supper where the sun don’t shine,” he yelled at Dhoni.

    “I don’t have a problem with that,” said Cook to nobody in particular. “It shows how passionate he is about mealtimes.”

    “Oh, well, I just thought it might be a nice offer,” said Dhoni. “Not to worry.”

    “Hey,” said Graeme Swann. “Hey, MS. Maybe we could get together for a bite to eat and a chat about life for us superstar cricketers, you know? The pressures, the incredible highs and lows, the movie premieres, the nominations for East Midlands Sports Personality of the Year.”

    “Erm, I guess,” said Dhoni. “Why don’t you have your people get in touch with my people?”

    “I’ll get Jimmy right on the case,” said Swann. “Fame, she is a fickle mistress, is she not, MS? Take KP here, look how his career’s gone right down the tubes since he had his moment in the spotlight and blew it like a rank amateur – no offence, Kevin.”

    “The dressing-room spirit is as good as ever,” interjected Andy Flower, discreetly gesturing to Tim Bresnan that he should stop flushing Craig Kieswetter’s head down the toilet.

    “Well, I must be getting going,” said Dhoni, edging towards the door. “It seems you fellows have a great deal to talk about. Have a most pleasant evening.”

    “Go on, get out of here,” shouted Finn. “Sling your hook.”

    “I don’t have a problem with that,” said Cook, staring blankly into space and twitching slightly. “It shows how passionate he is about shouting at opponents.”

    “Yeah, I sure showed him,” said Finn. “We can certainly take a lot of positives from our swearing in this match.”

    “Come on lads,” said Flower. “Only 100 more overs of this ODI series.”

    “Unless we bat first, obviously,” said Cook. “And then a chance to defend our World No. 1 Twenty20 ranking.”

    “I can hear those Indian players trembling”.

    Source: Cricinfo.

  129. #129 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 25, 2011 - 9:09 PM

    Hi guys – Salams;

    Back to my “Thiiyaa”, haven’t read any comments or even news related to sports, in fact a couple of days ago someone told me about Gaddafi and I asked him what about him? He said, don’t you know? I said, NO…… then he told me, so basically I was totally cut off from the ROTW.

    I will get back to you guys later……….. Regards.

  130. #130 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 26, 2011 - 11:00 AM

    MISKEEN Zaka Ashraf has remained silent for a long time and now he is reportedly mourning BB ki Maa ka F. hona (F = faut) So, there is a chance of one more “Mazaaar” Mausoleum to be built in Nao Dero, Larkana. Ultimately it will become he land of Mausoleums with no roads, no hospitals, no clinics, no schools but, just a few Makhiyaan (flies), otherwise we do we see the people (mazaray / fuqray) PANKHA JHAILING over the grave? What people and what a country? And, how these MFB’s Chaudhrys’ Waderays’ and Jagirdars, fool the masses and get away with this is really amazing.

  131. #131 by Mohammed Munir on October 26, 2011 - 11:22 AM

    Welcome Back Javed Bhai …

    Un Kay Aatay Hee Kiya Hogai Ghar Ki Surat
    Nan Wo Deewar Ki Surat, Nan Dar Ki Surat 😀

    BTW, Pakistan, as usual took early wickets and control of the match but then let it slip with some poor fielding and their regular “droppings”. 😉

  132. #132 by Aatma-hathya on October 26, 2011 - 12:27 PM

    Javed A Khan

    Kal bhi Dakoo zinda tha

    Aaj bhi Dakoo zinda hai…..

    Har ghar sey Dakoo nilkey ga!

    Pakistan ki doulat harpay ga….!!

    Jiye Dakoo………..

  133. #133 by Aatma-hathya on October 26, 2011 - 12:29 PM

    This team India, they are not good bowlers and they are not good batsmen, but the only reason they are a Keep in the cricket world is because of their fielding

  134. #134 by Aatma-hathya on October 26, 2011 - 12:32 PM

    Happy Diwali to our Indian friends.

  135. #135 by Aatma-hathya on October 26, 2011 - 12:32 PM

    Happy Diwali, says Imran Khan

    Chairman of Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) Imran Khan on Wednesday wished Hindus a happy Diwali on the occasion of the religious festival.

    “PTI believes in forming relationships with all the religious parties on the basis of equality and every citizen should be treated equally despite their ethnic or lingual origin” said a statement issued from the PTI central secretariat.

    The statement also said that PTI will put these norms in practice when it enters the power corridors.

    Hindus, along with their friends from other faiths, are all set to celebrate Diwali today (Wednesday). The festival, also known as the Festival of Lights, is celebrated for five days.

    The main pooja will be held at Krishna Temple, Ravi Road and Balmiki Temple, Anarkali in Lahore.

    The Evacuee Trust Property Board will distribute sweets and fruit among the participants at Krishna temple.

  136. #136 by Aatma-hathya on October 26, 2011 - 12:35 PM

    This man Tom, he never seen a rain,

    Dhoni is one of the best ODI players, and also the best finisher of the game along with Hussey.

    He has done this countless times now.

    It is a great humiliation for England, I agree. They should have won at least 2 matches.

    Encouraging performance from India, but will they maintain this on foreign tours?

  137. #137 by Aatma-hathya on October 26, 2011 - 12:39 PM


    I am not concerned about Veena’s sexual life- who am I to criticise it?

    I am just concerned about her uncouthness and holier than thou attitude when her intention is to basically make a name for herself in India.

    She was moaning about why she is being victimised because actresses from Heera Mandi do the same as she does. Now we know that they DO NOT behave the same way that Veena does because Reema, Saima and the like were not as desperate to work in India.

  138. #138 by Aatma-hathya on October 26, 2011 - 12:40 PM


    Veena enjoying herself why not.

  139. #139 by Aatma-hathya on October 26, 2011 - 12:54 PM

    Mohsin should be made coach: Akram

    New Delhi: Former skipper Wasim Akram believes selector-cum-coach Mohsin Khan should be given an extended run with the Pakistan cricket team if the boys are comfortable under him. Akram feels that the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) should take into consideration the opinion of the cricketers before zeroing down on the national coach. “Mohsin Khan seems to be doing a good job with the team. Whether his short term role as a selector-cum-coach should be converted into a full-time job I am not sure because the new PCB management will surely have some plans,” Akram said. “On the face of it, if the boys are comfortable under Mohsin as coach, then he should be given an extended run. I am all for people who are hard-working. Mohsin seems to be gelling well with the team and the boys are looking calm under him.”

  140. #140 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 26, 2011 - 4:00 PM

    The HijDa Akram should keep his thoothun shut, why are these ch2 journalists write his comments in the newspaper?

    Aatma Hathya

    Amran Khan nay Veena Malak say Bhadakh say kah diya……….

    Jaan-e-Mun, Diwali ka tohfa tumhe kya doon?
    Tum tou khud ek patakha ho (magar phoota howa)


    Ugg reha hai dar-0-diwar pay sabza Muneeray
    tum jungle may ho aur ghar may bahaar ayee hai!

  141. #141 by Mohammed Munir on October 26, 2011 - 4:09 PM

    LOL @ Muneeray.

    My one Punjabi teacher use to call me that.

  142. #142 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 26, 2011 - 4:39 PM

    I should have said, SEHRA instead of Jungle.

    Ghalib used the word, BIYABAAN instead of the above two.

  143. #143 by tom on October 26, 2011 - 4:52 PM

    A khansahab

    This woman Veena, she is a good hooker.

    This woman Veena, she is in India not because she is sexy or she is hot, but she is a KEEP because of her paki bashing.

    She making money, why not.

    Reema, Saima get a good money here so dont go to a India.

    Baaqi haqeeqat ye hae ke sari phatey hue patakhey hain.

    Ab diwali mein phatey ya new year pe, kya farq padta hae

  144. #144 by tom on October 26, 2011 - 4:54 PM

    A khansahab

    india will chicken out on foreign tours and this is what my a point is- teams are kings in their own backyards. This quality is lacking in modern international sides unlike australia or west indies when they were no1

  145. #145 by tom on October 26, 2011 - 4:57 PM

    A khansahab

    Whats difference between Zarda and Zardari

    Zarda khushi mein khaya jata hae

    Zardari khushi ko Khata hae.

    Corruption khappe khappe

  146. #146 by Aatma-hathya on October 26, 2011 - 5:59 PM

    No leniency for erring players: PCB Chairman

    The new chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Zaka Ashraf has made it clear that he will deal with an iron hand with players who bring bad name to Pakistan with their illegal and unethical behaviour.

    “Since I was appointed Chairman of the board on October 11, people have been calling me up from all over the world and urging me to bring in improvement to Pakistan cricket and the board,” he said.

    “One thing is clear in my mind. I will not tolerate any groupings or monopoly either in the board or in the national team. There is no question of compromise on this issue.

    “Secondly, it is a fact that some cricketers have been responsible for bringing a bad name to Pakistan and Pakistanis all over the world, and I can only tell those players that they will be dealt with an iron hand, and no leniency will be shown to them,” he added.

  147. #147 by Aatma-hathya on October 26, 2011 - 9:38 PM

    Yousuf is delusional. His performance waned after 2007 and it does not take a genius to figure out why he is not in the team. Younis Khan is going to be treated the same way soon if he continues his poor fielding.

    Yousuf wants PCB explanation before comeback

    LAHORE: Pakistan’s former Test captain Mohammad Yousuf, who has been away from cricketing scene for unknown reasons, has said he is available for the national side if the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) informs him of the reasons of his exclusion from the side.

    Talking to Dawn on Tuesday, Yousuf says, “I am ready to represent Pakistan in any format of the game, but first the PCB should tell me the reasons why I am out of the national side,” Yousuf, a veteran of 90 Tests and 287 One-day Internationals, said.

    “The new PCB chairman, Zaka Ashraf, is to take charge in few days. I will request him to ask the selectors why I am not part of the team,” said Yousuf, who has scored 7,530 runs in Tests and 9,717 runs in ODIs.

    Asked why he was not playing in the country’s ongoing premier domestic event, the Quaid-i-Azam Trophy, to prove his form and fitness, Yousuf replied, “Why I should play domestic cricket when I am not aware of the reasons of my exclusion?” he said.

  148. #148 by Aatma-hathya on October 26, 2011 - 9:40 PM

    What now for those people who were claiming that there is a world of a difference between Junaid Khan and Mohd Aamar?

    Junaid as good as Amir, says Iqbal Qasim

    LAHORE – Pakistan’s cricket chief selector Iqbal Qasim was all praise for left-arm fast bowler Junaid Khan. Iqbal said that the youngster has a great future ahead of him if he remained focused. His best performance came against Sri Lanka in the first Test of the three-match series in United Arab Emirates, when the rookie picked up a five-wicket haul in the first innings at Abu Dhabi. Junaid came through the ranks of junior cricket in Pakistan and played alongside another talented youngster. It was Qasim who picked Junaid for Pakistan Under-19s. He claimed that both the youngsters had the same ability but Amir was lucky that he got the opportunity earlier than the fast bowler from Abbottabad. Qasim was quoted by Pakpassion as saying, “Junaid is a very talented bowler. I saw Amir and Junaid when I was chief selector when they had just started playing U-19 cricket. Both of them had the same potential, both of them had a lot of bite, eagerness, enthusiasm and terrific control.” Iqbal praised his performance in the first Test against the Islanders but he hopes that the left-arm fast bowler can carry on with the good work and remains composed for success. “He bowled well in the first Test. He has to concentrate hard, keep his focus and perform constantly and in different conditions. With the passage of time he will learn. If he keeps working hard, he has a big future ahead,” he added.

  149. #149 by Aatma-hathya on October 26, 2011 - 9:48 PM

    I have said before Sallu is a totally unbiased and very astute observer of the game. Apart from his recommendation of including Malik, I agree with everything he is saying.

    These days most people would think twice before criticising Misbah but not Salahuddin Sallu. He has criticised the defensive mindset of Misbah and Mohsin Khan.

    He is also critical of Mohsin Khan; I find Sallu to be a more straightforward and honest person.

    Pakistan need to shun the defensive approach

    Salahuddin Ahmed

    Pakistan captain and coach’s defensive approach let the Sri Lankans off the hook in the first Test and deprived Pakistan of a certain victory.

    As far as the Sri Lankans are concerned, the manner in which they salvaged the game was as good as win for them.

    Pakistan began on the wrong foot at the Sheikh Zayed Stadium when they decided to bat first which, quite frankly, came as a shock to me. However, Misbah-ul-Haq proved it to be the right decision by getting the Sri Lankans dismissed for a paltry 197.

    Young Junaid Khan, who took 5-38, bowled brilliantly in conditions not conducive to fast or seam bowling. The pitch was a batting paradise where the batsmen only had to focus on spending time in the middle to accumulate runs unless they gifted their wickets to the bowlers.

    I don’t want to criticise the groundsman or the management, since they have done an excellent job by providing the best facilities in the desert including comfortable dressing rooms, media facilities and accommodation for the visiting teams.

    Similarly, in the past, Mr Abdur Rehman Bukhatir introduced a world-class tournament in Sharjah. I feel that no cricket historian can write about the ODIs and its history without mentioning Bukhatir’s name.

    Coming back to the first Test in Abu Dhabi, Taufiq Umar’s double hundred stood out for Pakistan as a commendable effort, indeed.

    However, without taking anything away from Taufiq, it reminded me of England great Geoffery Boycott who, after compiling one of the slowest double hundreds for England in a Test, was axed for the next game.

    I am afraid Taufiq’s approach to batsmanship in the first Test can be categorised with that of Boycott.

    Even after having compiled his double ton, Taufiq looked particularly uncomfortable against a makeshift bowler like Dilshan and edged the ball to square or fine leg on numerous occasions.

    This is mainly to do with his batting technique as his backlift comes from the gully region instead of the first slip which leaves a noticeable gap between the bat and the pad.

    In my opinion, it was the other opener Mohammad Hafeez who played a fine innings, his approach being positive, attractive and full of confidence. He can improve it further if he moves his right foot across before going forward to an outswinger which still bothers him at times.

    I must mention here that I have never seen a coach giving instructions from the pavilion to the batsmen in the middle. In football, yes, but nowhere in cricket does a practice like this is witnessed. Perhaps, someone needs to educate Mohsin Khan on the basics of how a coach should conduct himself.

    Normally, a 12th man is sent in to give instructions or a message to the batsman on the field as and when the need arises. But our animated interim coach was trying to pass on the instructions from the pavilion and it would not have surprised me if he, instead of the skipper, had signaled the declaration as well.

    Fielding is always a cause of concern for Pakistan and if our boys had accepted the half-a-dozen chances offered by the Islanders, the match would have finished on the fourth day.

    And lastly, Pakistan should have gone for the kill on the fifth day when they required around 170 for victory. The defensive approach once again spoiled things for us and, despite the tough target at hand, our players never gave any sign of making a match of it.

    One must praise the outstanding performance of the Sri Lankans, especially Kumara Sanagakara and P. Jayawerdene whose magnificent stand thwarted Pakistan plans of clinching a victory.

    For the second Test, I feel that instead of going in with six specialist batsmen, Pakistan should induct Shoaib Malik at number six besides bringing in Wahab Riaz in place of Aizaz Cheema.

    They should go in with a positive mind set and attack which is the best form of defence in times like these. If you are always afraid of losing, you just can’t win.

    My good friend Colonel Naushad is managing the team and he is a strict disciplinarian alright. But he must also be aware that last time there was a retired Major looking after the team affairs and a player abandoned the team to go abroad at a crucial juncture of the tour.

    God forbid if this happens again, the PCB might have to send a Brigadier on the next tour to ensure better control and discipline.

    The writer is a former Test cricketer and chief selector.

  150. #150 by Aatma-hathya on October 26, 2011 - 10:01 PM


    I think West Indies and Australia were just lucky that for a decade or perhaps slightly more in the case of Windies, they had the world’s best players. This also happened to Pakistan when Wasim, Waqar, Anwar, Latif, Inzamam, Saqlain, Akhtar etc were in the team.

    Most of the above players retired/exited at the same time and there was a prominent void in the team. In Australia 8 or 9 of their players out of 11 would be world class.

    The same can’t be said for India at the moment because the players are inconsistent. Harbhajan proved on the England tour that he is not consistent. Harbhajan doesn’t perform on pace friendly or batting pitches, Sehwag is devastating when he performs but he is inconsistent, Gambhir is unreliable on bowling pitches or under pressure.

    Dravid does not play ODI’s any more so Tendulkar remains their most consistent batsman across Tests and ODI’s.

    I feel England are the same- in fact India and England have a lot in common. They are both invincible at home but vulnerable abroad.

    Australia is slowly picking up whereas I think South Africa are declining a little. Have you noticed Steyn does not take many wickets these days?

  151. #151 by tom on October 27, 2011 - 7:57 AM

    A khansahab

    Teams are no1 due to their players and you have reinforced my view. England does have the quality of players who are world beaters. Thjis English team would have struggled against the Aussie no1 side who had gillie, mcgrath, warne ,waughs, hayden etc. thats why Iam not impressed.

    Moyo is right in asking for reasons although its not wise to mess with PCB. If Malik can get into the team with no significant performance, then why MOyo is being prejudiced. Reasons are primarily political rather than performance

  152. #152 by tom on October 27, 2011 - 8:18 AM


    Correction in second sentence.

    England Doesnt have quality of players who are world beaters.

  153. #153 by Aatma-hathya on October 27, 2011 - 9:04 AM

    Sohail Tanvir’s wife files complaint against him for threatening

    Lahore: Pakistani cricketer Sohail Tanvir has been accused of giving death threats and not providing maintenance by his first wife Nausheen Agha, who filed a complaint against him at the Shalimar police station in Islamabad.

    Tanvir, who leaves this week with the Pakistan squad for the Hong Kong Super Sixes tournament, was not available for his comments but Nausheen told reporters that she was forced to file the police complaint after the left-arm pacer made threatening calls to her and asked to keep out of the media.

    Tanvir contracted a second marriage on October 10 this year without consulting Nausheen.

    Nausheen, in her application, has claimed that she is Tanvir’s first wife and they have a daughter.

    “I had to file the police report because he has stopped giving us maintenance or taking care of us. He has just disappeared from our lives. All that I know about him now is that he is making death threats to me,” said Nausheen.

    “I have informed the police about how he has behaved with us and about his threats. They are investigating the matter. I want nothing from him except that he should provide us with proper maintenance and take care of our needs like every husband do,” she added.

    Nausheen said that she would not allow Tanvir to divorce her although he has married a second time without her consent.

    Tanvir had earlier claimed that he took the permission of his first wife before tying the knot a second time

  154. #154 by Aatma-hathya on October 27, 2011 - 10:06 AM

    This man Tom, Zulfiqar Bhutto eat a grass

    Waqar enjoying commentary why not.

  155. #155 by Aatma-hathya on October 27, 2011 - 10:31 AM

    There is a very fine line between bravery and foolishness….

    Younis hits a six when he is on 47, almost got caught on the boundary

  156. #156 by Aatma-hathya on October 27, 2011 - 10:37 AM

    This is the worst bowling attack I have seen of Sri Lanka.

    Herath is a better bowler than this, but there is no variation from him and he can’t even produce any turn.

    The pace bowling is worse than Munaf Patel standard.

  157. #157 by Aatma-hathya on October 27, 2011 - 10:39 AM

    Just as I wrote my last comment, Younis got bowled by Dilshan.

    He looked disinterested and the way he got to his 50 made it clear that he was getting bored. It was inevitable he would be dismissed soon.

    I just get the feeling he is past his prime. Doesn’t really seem like the dynamic and selfless player he once was.

  158. #158 by tom on October 27, 2011 - 10:39 AM

    A khansahab

    Ur rite about sl bowling. dont u think pakis r batting too slow. at this rate they would have to bat for 100 more overs to get a lead of 250; match heads for a draw.

  159. #159 by tom on October 27, 2011 - 10:41 AM

    Now Misbah darling is here and he is a staunch believer in slow and steady becomes the captain

  160. #160 by tom on October 27, 2011 - 10:43 AM

    Are players become rogue or cricket administrators are becoming too political?

    first it was moyo and now gayle has some bones to pick with wicb.

  161. #161 by tom on October 27, 2011 - 10:48 AM

    A next coach be a local coach .A afridi wasnt a fair. My a stint was a successful one and a khansahab is a jealous of my a commentary

  162. #162 by Aatma-hathya on October 27, 2011 - 10:51 AM


    I am not against a slow approach by itself, but they should not play selfishly. The word “slow” has a negative connotation; I think to play cautiously is OK in Test as well as ODI cricket provided you play with a plan to accelerate later when you have settled.

    The problem happens when it seems evident that players are just playing to improve their averages and remain not out. That is happening with every player at the moment because competition is tough in the middle order.

    Pakistan team is in a rebuilding phase (they have been for 10 years or so) and one of the things they are trying to focus on is to play watchfully and not play stupid shots. But, I think some of the players are exploiting this just to improve their average.

  163. #163 by tom on October 27, 2011 - 10:52 AM

    two more wickets and CAT WILL BE AMONGST PAKI PIGEONS.

  164. #164 by Aatma-hathya on October 27, 2011 - 10:53 AM


    This definitely confirms that there was friction between Afridi and Waqar.

    Waqar had kept silent about this until he gave this interview you have posted.

  165. #165 by tom on October 27, 2011 - 10:57 AM


    players are mainly playing for their place. captain is a prime example. taufiq secured his place in first match at expense of victory by playing tooooo sloooow.

    well lets see how this match unfolds.

  166. #166 by tom on October 27, 2011 - 11:02 AM

    A khansahab

    You Youngsta a beauty

    Younis seems to have lost motivation for cricket and its understandable amidst all the chaos and buttshit that occurred in recent years. he needs a break or some counselling to get his appetite back.

  167. #167 by Aatma-hathya on October 27, 2011 - 12:00 PM

    This man Tom

    Taufeeq was very lucky to survive for so long because he offered chances.

    You think Younis can regain form? I think he is nearing the end of his career.

    In Tests he was a good player but in ODI’s he was too inconsistent. Still, a good servant to Pakistan cricket.

  168. #168 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 27, 2011 - 12:42 PM

    khansahab: you have mentioned about very good players in the Aus and WI teams, also mentioned about Pak team too with Akram, Waqar, Akhtar, Razzaq, Inzi, Saeed Anwar etc. etc. BUTTA, this team never won any major tournament. In fact in SA they lost to India and both Wasim HijDAA and Akram were smashed by Tendulkar and Sehwag in the first 5 overs and they surrendered after that. This never happened in the Aus or WI team of that era.

    As regards Waqar’s statement about his friction with Afridi, he is trying to put on a holier than COW attitude by saying personally he did not have any problem or friction with Afridi but, his decisions effected the team (youngstaas) this is BS. When these two W’s conspired against Javed Miandad, even called him KAALIA at that time people were blind? No sir, they knew that these two W’s are a hand in glove and then they had a power struggle between the two of them and hold grudges against each other even now. Remember Wasim, after the WC 2011 was saying Waqar was poking his nose too much in team selection which is captain’s job. Then he took a 180 degree turn when the PCB treated Afridi badly. So, basically this HALF MAN, HALF HIJDAA is a THAALEE KA BAINGAN.

  169. #169 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 27, 2011 - 12:58 PM

    To say JUNAID is a better bowler than AAMIR is WRONG. Junaid is a mediocre but, Aamir is class act.

    Aamir is a good bowler there is no doubt about it, BUTTAA he should be banned for life for bringing ill-repute to the game, country and his supporters. Honesty is not a quality that you try to tell people, I will be honest. IT IS A PREREQUISITE and he was lost in the world of greediness along with Butt and Asif, so he must pay a price for that. It will be a lesson for the ‘YOUNGSTA BEAUTIES.”

    It seems like we have only two kinda beauties in Pakistan, one is this ‘youngsta beauties’ of Waqar and then Pakistan has Heera Mandi beauties. Jisko vo baray fuckriya andaaz may kehtay hain hamara BAAZAAR-E-HUSN. There is a guy here who literally worships a Gashtee called NARGUS and has a whole range of DVD collection and wants us to see it with him. Once was enough and that too just a couple of songs, because the cheap, tarty, vulgar dances aur usss per sitam zareefee gaanay kay bol hotay hain, “Tusi Chaitee naal meri kameez uthaa kay Ek baari Chummee Lay, layyyyyyyyyyyyyyy” I guess there is no need to lift the the kameez because of the big neck cleavage from where half their melons keep popping out every now and then and there is a storm of whistling and babbababaaba from the audience. And, you can see the host’s ugly32C spreading out a mile or two and he is expecting from you to say, Wah jee Wah kya baat hai. The second time he tried to play that same song, I said, ‘will you please shut this trash, because I can’t bear the sight of this cheap tramp and her antics.’ Trust me the expressions on his face changed and he turned pale. He must have cursed me later by saying WADA BAD ZAOK aye! Who cares?

  170. #170 by Aatma-hathya on October 27, 2011 - 1:26 PM

    Javed A Khan

    I agree with you that Aamer is better than Zunaid Khan (a Bangladeshi cricketer was called, “Zunaid”).

    But, there are some people who are still admiring Aamer and criticising Zunaid whilst this spot fixing trial is going on. They make no reference to Aamer’s criminality, in fact they think he should have been let off.

    Like you, I also liked Aamer’s bowling but I am also quick to criticise him because a kid can understand the concept of cheating in sport.

  171. #171 by tom on October 27, 2011 - 5:36 PM

    A khansahab

    I told u public enjoys punjabi stuff. Now shouldnt Maulvis be concerned about Ms Nargis or if she shows her body in india, only then she should be preached?

  172. #172 by tom on October 27, 2011 - 5:45 PM

    Shahid Afridi you are becoming controversial and losing respect when you utter such nonsense.

    ” The new chairman is impressive. He has run a lot of companies, so he knows how to manage people and I hope it will be a good change for Pakistani cricket

    Impressive; man he’s corrupt. There are lawsuits filed against him in Supreme court. Shahid you have now resorted to Chamcha giri. We do want you to play but that doesnt mean you become such a stinkin opportunist. Zardari doesnt appoint angels, everybody knows. Do you mind telling us WHATS IMPRESSIVE ABOUT ZAKAT ASHRAF?

    Yes butt was supershit but what has zakat done till now. It doesnt suit you when you sound like tennis player or a Jaheer abbas. At least dont lose your dignity.

    full story is here

  173. #173 by tom on October 27, 2011 - 5:54 PM

    A khansahab

    younis definitely a great servant for pakistan. ill feel sad when he retires.

  174. #174 by Aatma-hathya on October 27, 2011 - 5:56 PM

    This man Tom, he is Batman

    It was a coincidence that recently I was watching Geo TV with my family and Nargas appeared on a talk show- my mother did not know who she was. But, she was known to me.

    So that is my point that 50% of Pakistani population will already not be familiar with her because usually only men watch her.

    But what Veena did was watched not just by men and women in Pakistan but also in India.

    In India barely anyone will know Nargas because Nargas has a very specific kind of Punjabi audience.

  175. #175 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 27, 2011 - 6:38 PM

    “Asif told the court that his no-ball was caused by verbal abuse he had received from Salman Butt.”

    Sadaa na baagi bul bul bolay
    Sadaa na baag bahaaran
    Sadaa na mapay Oosun Jawani
    Sadaa na sohbat yaaraan

    Asaf Miyaan, A gul tusi pehlay kainday na tou koi farq painda, hunn koi faida nayee! Yari gayee, dosti gayee, Veena bhee gayee, bud namee bhee hoie.

    Aur bidoon Veena bhee teray liyeh koi jeena hai lulLoo? Lehaza Ro mut.

    Ab ronay, dhonay aur naak surrak nay ka koi faida nahee ……

    Kon rota hai aye dost, aur kis kay liyeh
    sab ko apni hee kisi baat pay rona aya

    Asaf nay kaha, mai tou rota tha sirf teray liyeh A Veena
    Nargas nay Asaf ko dekha tou kaha, A hai sudda Nageena

  176. #176 by Aatma-hathya on October 27, 2011 - 6:39 PM


    I was also disappointed to read Afridi’s comments. He has become a politician.

  177. #177 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 27, 2011 - 6:43 PM

    No khansahab that is not politics but, pure 100%, khalas Chamchagiri.

    He lost his respect in the eyes of millions its like:

    Gaya Shaitan Mara Ek Sajde Ke Na Karne Se
    Agar Lakhon Baras Sajde Mein Sar Mara To Kya Mara?

    Now he can bend over backwards, lick his own spit and call it whatever, but what he did was unacceptable.

    I hope he regains his respect by playing well, FIRST he needs to be selected.

  178. #178 by tom on October 27, 2011 - 7:02 PM

    This man a khansahab

    I ve seen a lot of a milk bowls in a diamond bazar, but nagis a youngsta beauty

    Maulvis enjoying themselves, why not

  179. #179 by Aatma-hathya on October 27, 2011 - 7:03 PM


    Nargus maybe a beauty but definitely not young………

    But she enjoying herself why not

  180. #180 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 27, 2011 - 10:05 PM

    Have you heard this before?

    Aap bhee Mujra kerti hain?


    hahahahahahahahahaahaha, Tawaif aur RETIRED? Dono mutazaad baatain hain !

  181. #181 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 27, 2011 - 10:08 PM

    That same guy who was showing us DVD’s said, that the new generation of Heera Mandi have gotten education in good colleges and they have moved out from the Diamond Market yet, they are Gashtees for very high class gentry and live in big houses in locations like Defense, Model Town etc. etc. and if you see them it will never cross your mind that they are Gashtees, the business is done through connections at a very high price only.

    Chor chori say jaye
    Haira phairy sa na jaye

    Gashti, Gasht na lagaye, Heera Mandi na jaye
    Par Dhanda aur Gahak say na jaye.

  182. #182 by Aatma-hathya on October 28, 2011 - 11:36 AM

    Poor start for Zaka Ashraf. Should have asked Afridi to return to Test cricket, but is actually considering that Afridi is still good for ODI’s? What a load of rubbish- Afridi is their best ODi player at the moment and his WC performance proved that.

    Misbah was also saying that Afridi has something to offer to international cricket- he certainly has to offer a lot MORE than you do, Misbah.

    Ashraf thinks Afridi is still good for one-dayers

    ISLAMABAD: Pakistan cricket’s new chief Zaka Ashraf said Friday he thinks all-rounder Shahid Afridi still has plenty to offer as a one-day player.

    “As a Pakistan national and as a cricket viewer I think Afridi is very good one-day player,” Ashraf told reporters.

    Afridi quit international cricket after developing differences with former Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Ijaz Butt and ex-coach Waqar Younis.

    Afridi made himself available for national selection after Ashraf took over from Butt earlier this month and Younis stepped down due to personal reasons.

    Ashraf said he and Afridi will meet soon to discuss the player’s future.

    “He has contacted me, but I could say something only after we both meet with each other,” he said.

    Pakistan is currently playing a test series against Sri Lanka in the United Arab Emirates and it is likely Afridi’s fate would be decided before the one-day series begins on November 11 in Dubai.

    Ashraf visited the PCB head office in Lahore on Friday to meet with various PCB officials. He also plans to meet with various former test cricketers, including crickter-turned-politician Imran Khan.

    “I want to develop consensus on how to move forward after meeting with legends,” Ashraf said. “I am a very good listener.”

    Ashraf said he needed at least “two to three months” to settle down and study the working of the PCB.

    For well over a decade, the PCB has been governed on ad-hoc basis with the chairman appointed directly by the president of the country.

    The International Cricket Council has set 2013 as the deadline for all the cricket boards to run their operations democratically.

    Local media have speculated that is the reason Ashraf was appointed by president Asif Ali Zardari earlier this month “till further orders” instead of for the usual three-year term.

  183. #183 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 28, 2011 - 2:03 PM

    LOL @ this point: “In my view Afridi is a good one-day player but I will discuss with the experts and might change my view,”

    It means Zaka has no views of his own? He will rely on the info on what HijDa Akram, Waqqa Younas, Mohsina Khanam and others would say?

    Mr. 2 1/2 % Ashraf please drop those crutches and stand on your own feet, don’t make up your mind by applying lipstick on your forehead instead puff some powder on Ijaz’s Butt. Reject the MaskaRa offered by players and chamchas, in other words BE A MAN.

    Till further orders means, till Zardari’s government is in power!

  184. #184 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 28, 2011 - 2:26 PM


    Any news on the verdict? They were saying that Friday (today) they will announce the verdict on spot-fixing case.

    Reliable sources are saying they will get 10 years ban, including Aamir who pleaded guilty a few months ago, but previously he was denying it. So, his case and the case of others is very weak.

    Also, what I don’t understand is, after more than a year Zakir Khan an official of the PCB announced that they gave $34,000 to Salman Butt in cash to stop him from playing for another league! What happened earlier, the cat took his tongue? Why didn’t he say that before? And why didn’t Salman the Nikki Butt mention about it instead of saying this money is for his sisters, ‘Shaadi Ka Jora?” WHAT A BUNCH OF LIARS.

  185. #185 by Aatma-hathya on October 28, 2011 - 2:44 PM

    Javed A Khan

    According to Cricinfo the jury asked to hear the phone evidence again.

    They have the option of revisiting evidence and asking unlimited questions before they announce the deciyen.

    If the jury cannot reach a deciyen after a few days of deliberations then the judge has to order a retrial. In the meantime the judge can also direct a majority verdict (at the moment he has asked for a unanimous verdict).

    It can go on for a few days or they might return a verdict on Monday, even. All depends on the poyiyen of the evidence, their veeyan and deciyen making prowess.

  186. #186 by Aatma-hathya on October 28, 2011 - 2:49 PM

    Latif slams Pakistan for Kaneria ‘murder’

    KARACHI — Former captain Rashid Latif on Sunday accused Pakistan’s cricket chiefs of “murdering” leg-spinner Danish Kaneria by refusing to let him play despite being cleared of a spot-fixing allegation in Britain.

    The 31-year-old and fellow Essex bowler Mervyn Westfield were arrested last year on claims of spot-fixing during a Pro40 one-day match against Durham in 2009.

    Kaneria was later released without being charged but Westfield faces criminal proceedings.

    Kaneria appeared before an integrity committee of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) in August but was not cleared. He then filed a petition in court in a bid to force the PCB to allow him to play again for his country.

    “All around the cricketing world they preserve their players, however in Pakistan the ideology is just the opposite as the PCB is destroying Kaneria’s career,” said Latif, adding he was “amazed” at Kaneria’s treatment.

    “He is the most successful spinner of the country, hence should be treated with respect,” said Latif.

  187. #187 by JAVED A. KHAN on October 28, 2011 - 3:08 PM

    We have a new thread on the new Chairman of the PCB, please post your comments there. Thank you.

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