SAEED AJMAL PLEASE ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES

I WARNED YOU BEFORE THAT I WILL GET YOU THROUGH MY TEESRA

I WARNED YOU BEFORE THAT I WILL GET YOU THROUGH MY TEESRA

The desire to write grows with writing.  — Desiderius Erasmus —  And, writing something about cricket test matches these days is like a campaign akin to “Save the Dolphin”, “Save the Whales.”  That is because people have lost interest in test matches and they think that test matches will become extinct like Dinosaurs.

No one knows the exact date, period or era in which cricket started, but international test cricket started in 1877, the origins are from England, our Masters and the Masters of this game of cricket which is famous for being a game for gentlemen —  a game of the noblemen and aristocrats.

While I was struggling to find some background information about cricket, I stumbled upon some very interesting info on cricket and betting.  Instead of narrating it in my own words, I would like to quote it here for our bloggers.

“Gambling, Match Fixing and Press Coverage:

Cricket certainly thrived after the Restoration in 1660 and is believed to have first attracted gamblers making large bets at this time. In 1664, the “Cavalier” Parliament passed the Gaming Act 1664 which limited stakes to £100, although that was still a fortune at the time, equivalent to about £12 thousand in present day terms. Cricket had certainly become a significant gambling sport by the end of the 17th century. There is a newspaper report of a “great match” played in Sussex in 1697 which was 11-a-side and played for high stakes of 50 guineas a side.   With freedom of the press having been granted in 1696, cricket for the first time could be reported in the newspapers. But it was a long time before the newspaper industry adapted sufficiently to provide frequent, let alone comprehensive, coverage of the game. During the first half of the 18th century, press reports tended to focus on the betting rather than on the play.

MCC was itself the centre of controversy in the Regency period, largely on account of the enmity between Lord Frederick Beauclerk and George Osbaldeston. In 1817, their intrigues and jealousies exploded into a match-fixing scandal with the top player William Lambert being banned from playing at Lord’s Cricket Ground for life. Gambling scandals in cricket have been going on since the 17th century.”

This is another subject and I do not wish to delve deeper in this gambling and match fixing mess which is also a creation of the British, instead I will focus on the whining, whinging and crying of the Englishmen when they lose a test match especially if they are comprehensively beaten by the inferior ones like, those who were under the British Raj and those who were reportedly convicts etc., etc.

The current test series that is being played in the UAE between England and Pakistan at a neutral venue where Pakistan has comprehensively beaten their Masters by 10 wickets and within 3 days!  As expected they started whining and whinging against the mystical bowling of Saeed Ajmal, who initially played a mind game before the start of the test match — giving them a taste of their own medicine —  instead of targeting a player like the English and Australians do, he talked about his new mystery ball called the ” Teesra,” which worked better than expectations.

The Englishmen were bowled out for under 2oo twice and Ajmal took 10 wickets in the match and they cannot digest this defeat and are talking about Ajmal’s action. Instead of justifying myself with my views, I would like to copy paste another quote on Ajmal’s action, which will give a better picture of his bowling action.

” After all, it is a well-known fact that Ajmal has been cleared by an independent panel of specialists approved by the International Cricket Council (ICC).

Dr Bruce Elliot – a professor of Bio-mechanics, Motor Learning and Development at the University of Western Australia – cleared Ajmal in 2009, when the Australian cricket team were struggling to deconstruct his mystery at the same venue. Elliot revealed that “during a comprehensive analysis it was apparent that the amount of elbow extension in Saeed Ajmal’s bowling action for all deliveries was within the 15-degree level of tolerance permitted in the ICC regulations.”

So it is evident that Ajmal’s action is clean and the ICC has approved the report and cleared him.  So, why are they crying now? The comical and farcical thing is, the Englishmen are saying that Ajmal is hiding his elbow by wearing a full sleeves shirt.  This is absurd, ridiculous and laughable.  Should Ajmal roll up his sleeves and show his muscles to them? What sort of a complaint is this?

Even if Ajmal rolls up his sleeves, can the umpire or anyone for that matter by seeing his action with a naked eye can tell that it is within the 15-degree level of tolerance permitted in the ICC regulations?  You must have a bionic eye for that.  The Englishmen and the Australians are cry babies and they cry shamelessly. 

AJMAL OVER THE MOON AND WHY NOT?
AJMAL OVER THE MOON AND WHY NOT?
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  1. #1 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 21, 2012 - 5:36 AM

    We have a new thread, please write here. Thank you

  2. #2 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 21, 2012 - 6:15 AM

    Raju

    This is not cricket, but it is funny. Read what Munshi Mansoor Ijaz has to say………

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/01/21/mansoor-ijaz-set-to-visit-pakistan-next-week.html

    I dunno what his profession is, but he can definitely get a Munshi’s role in Bollywood movies.

    Just look at his photo, the way he is glancing above his half-eye and the kinda smirk he has on his face, is a perfect picture of a Munshi who is playing a Villain’s role.

  3. #3 by Sentinel Prime on January 21, 2012 - 11:10 AM

    I don`t feel I have taken place of Kamran in team: Adnan Akmal

    Karachi: Young wicketkeeper-batsman Adnan Akmal has no guilt pangs about having replaced his elder brother Kamran in the national Pakistan team.

    “No there is no such feeling that I am taking his place in the team. Our family believes that whoever plays for Pakistan should give his best and contribute to the team doing well,” Adnan said from Dubai.

    Adnan, 26, who has been Pakistan`s regular keeper in Tests since late 2010 and stood out in the first Test against England with sharp keeping and batting, said he was just proud to be the third Akmal brother to play for Pakistan.

    “There is no competition among us brothers. We try to support each other all the time. Kamran is presently out of the team but he is playing domestic cricket and is there for me,” he said.

    Adnan became the third Akmal brother after Kamran and Umar to play for Pakistan and in 11 tests has so far 45 dismissals behind the stumps.

    Adnan said he didn`t think about the fact that he had replaced his brother as keeper in the team and just focused on his job.

    “Kamran was the first in our family to play for Pakistan and is the eldest so obviously he has a special place for us.”

  4. #4 by Sentinel Prime on January 21, 2012 - 11:11 AM

    I think it was Ian Chappell who said that even if K Akmal bats like Bradman, he will still not warrant a place in the Pakistan team because of his terrible keeping.

  5. #5 by Sentinel Prime on January 21, 2012 - 11:12 AM

    England batted like morons against Pakistan: Swann

    England off-spinner Graeme Swann has said that side batted like morons in the first Test played against Pakistan here, and deserved to lose.

    “We resembled cricketing dinosaurs in the way we failed to respond to Pakistan’s bowling. We were caught on the hop by opponents who were sharper on the first day and there was no clawing it back,” Swann writes in an article for ‘The Sun’.

    “I think most of our problems were mental. Maybe we didn’t adapt — and not just the batters, the whole team,” he adds.

    Describing Pakistan off-spinner Saeed Ajmal as a fine bowler, Swann said England’s batters had faced up to him before, and doubts about his bowling action should not have taken centerstage.

    He is a fine bowler, don’t get me wrong, but the same bowler we handled at home in 2010. The teesra ‘mystery’ ball with which he teased everyone was shown to be no more than a gimmick. So he’s exactly the bowler he was before — he bowls a very good off-spinner and a good doosra,” said Swann.

    “We have to combat those two deliveries and I’m sure we’ll find a way before the Second Test on Wednesday,” he added.

    “It”s not up to us to say it is not a fair delivery. We have to play the ball that comes down and if there is anything wrong with his action, I’m sure the ICC would pick up on it,” Swann said.

  6. #6 by Sentinel Prime on January 21, 2012 - 11:17 AM

    JAK

    I have not followed Pak vs England in detail but I did see one clip where Bob Willis was lamenting the 15 degree rule and saying that, the ICC overlooks this whenever off spinners bowl the doosra.

    It is debatable whether he was saying this in a “matter of fact”, non-emotional way or being a cry baby about Ajmal’s action.

    I also haven’t seen anyone else claim that Ajmal’s action is a problem.

  7. #7 by Sentinel Prime on January 21, 2012 - 11:26 AM

    RR

    If you are saying that “Ch2” is not used by civilised people and therefore it is as bad as calling someone a slut, then have a think about how educated and civilised people look calling someone a slut.

    It is better for someone uneducated to call someone a Ch2, in the context of criticising stupidity, than for someone educated to call someone a slut criticising sexual standards. It is even worse if they don’t know or have evidence about someone’s moral standards.

  8. #8 by Sentinel Prime on January 21, 2012 - 11:28 AM

    JAK

    We have seen that Sarfraz Ahmed’s batting is not up to the mark, so it is better if A Akmal is played in all three formats.

    I would still prefer Z Haider, but his career is over for whatever reason.

  9. #9 by Sentinel Prime on January 21, 2012 - 11:30 AM

    RR

    What I was saying was that if England work a miracle and are able to play Ajmal, then I feel they will have the upper hand.

    The shock of not being able to play Ajmal was so great that their bowlers could not restrict Hafeez, Umar, Misbah etc and then their batsmen had problems playing Gul in the 2nd innings.

    The damage was done on the first day and England were not able to recover.

  10. #10 by Sentinel Prime on January 21, 2012 - 11:34 AM

    RR

    I have done an archive search and have not found any comment where I have used the word, “slut” to describe Veena.

    When did I say that?

  11. #11 by Sentinel Prime on January 21, 2012 - 11:46 AM

    Let’s hope Laxman or SRT get a hint from this:

    ‘Big Three’ know when is the right time to retire: BCCI secretary

    Sanjay Jagdale, the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) secretary said on Saturday that senior India cricketers – Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid and VVS Laxman know when is the right time to retire and the decision should be solely theirs.

    Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman, who form a solid Indian middle-order, have been through a rough patch in England and now in Australia, which is clearly evident in India’s seven-match losing streak.

    “They have played enough at the highest level and know when is the right time to leave. It’s the job of selectors to decide. The board doesn’t interfere in the selections matters. I know they haven’t done well in the last two away tours but it can happen to the best,” Jagdale said.

  12. #12 by Sentinel Prime on January 21, 2012 - 11:49 AM

    Sehwag is a flat track bully. He averages less than 30 on green pitches. It is wrong to consider him to be one of the best batsman of the modern era- being able to play on difficult or foreign conditions is one of the most crucial indicators of calibre.

    Sehwag’s woeful away form costing India dear

    A couple of scores in single digits in the upcoming fourth Test in Adelaide and Virender Sehwag’s average, for the first time in 26 months and 25 Tests, could fall below 50 per innings.

    More hands would go up in the likelihood of such a possibility, which is a reflection on how Sehwag’s stocks have fallen abroad in the last four years.

    Stats in this period show that on the last four tours to New Zealand, South Africa, England and Australia, Sehwag’s average has never touched 30.

    In 21 innings, he has less than 500 runs and just two 50s — stats which don’t fare well in comparison to even Harbhajan Singh, leave alone Mahendra Singh Dhoni or Suresh Raina.

  13. #13 by Raju reporter on January 21, 2012 - 1:04 PM

    ks

    civilised people dont use either ch2 or slut.

    but here its a liberal blog as you say and i repeat the culture here is to discuss issues which friends discuss in open gatherings.

    I mean cricket, politics, sex, current issues etc.

    so what exactly concerns you?

    are you saying that some policy change has occured here.

    ill show you the archive stuff tonite or tomorrow.

  14. #14 by Raju reporter on January 21, 2012 - 2:17 PM

    Jk

    in previous blog u askd me abt mishap,and i told u he’s rubbish.

    See australia has beaten india,pk and srilanka in their backyards. None of these 3 have achieved that so to be great u have to beat aussies in australia.

    Sovht africa have beaten india and pk in their countries but both havnt beaten sovht africa in svth africa.

    Finally england has beaten and has been beaten so its even stevens but..

    But england +sovit africa have beaten australia in australia so they are ahead in this regard.

    So mishaps has only achievd what previous pk capt have achieved. Last home series england lost 2-0 to pk,so whats new now?

  15. #15 by raju reporter on January 21, 2012 - 3:05 PM

    chalo jee shafqy ki makhan polish shuru

    jk i dont rate him high, why you consider him to be cooollll writer?

    now what he’s trying to say, pmk will beat ev ery team in their country.

    fior his supporters, he couldnt beat kangli west indies in west indies- a miserable draw

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/550243.html

    what something big? why dont you guys have the gumption to say he can beat likes of australia, south africa, in their backyards.

    he drew with south africa hun……….

    even shafqy admits bowling is still same as it was

    then what nonsense is that ajmal improved under mishap and mishap handling bowlers well ala bal….

  16. #16 by raju reporter on January 21, 2012 - 4:33 PM

    ks

    i did some back pedalling and i found comments where mutual exchanges occurred about sl*t.

    mind you , there is no objection from you during those exchanges, so i fail to understand why all the fuss now?

    my response was more overt than yours but I was never prompted!

    instead one will find passive acknowledgements from you!

  17. #17 by raju reporter on January 21, 2012 - 5:01 PM

    jk

    m ijaz is more than a black mailer or a munshi

    he is a porn movie/ wrestling organizer

    check out his cummentary and the way he looks with lusty eyes 😆

  18. #18 by Raju reporter on January 21, 2012 - 5:32 PM

    @jadale

    what nonsense!

    7 matches on the trot and u still think they know better. They might never retire ever!

  19. #19 by Sentinel Prime on January 21, 2012 - 7:31 PM

    RR

    I am expressing a personal opinion when I criticise your use of “slut”, I am not relating blog policy.

    I was not that frank with you I guess if I did not criticise your use of such terms earlier. But, on one occasion I quoted your phrase “bitches and sluts” and maybe you are referring to that comment, asking why I didn’t protest then.

    I have never approved this term or used it in the way you have.

    Anyway, I don’t feel the need to discuss this any further although I am sure you would like to respond.

    As far as I know there is not really any “policy” here, in that, there are no terms or conditions or any constitution or anything- people say what they feel like, but it has to be done in a way that it not offensive to anyone. The idea was to express views liberally which is good, but I don’t think words like “slut” should be used liberally.

    When you call someone a slut because of your moral or religious views, then that carries an air of religious superiority and the projection is as if you are imposing your religious view on others. Your opinion derived from your interpretation of Islam may be different to others’ perception. This is why I have a problem with the imposition of religious views because, a blog should not be used to promote or oppose countries or religions.

    Why else would you call Veena a slut?

  20. #20 by Raju on January 21, 2012 - 8:17 PM

    ks

    I never wanted to discuss this topic with you and if you go through my comments on previous blog you ll find i tried to supress this topic.

    well if i called anyone bitch or slut and you took my phrase and deliberated upon that, that is a silent approval.

    which leads to next point, why after a passage of 3 months you are questioning its usage?

    what propmted you to question this usage?

    ks, first and foremost the slut has multiple meanings.

    your are persisting with its derogatory usage; its not restricted to that.
    .
    secondly, lets go back in time. you were the one who was critical of veena, not me. and if you didnt raise an eyebrow over my usage of these terms, it was because you implicitly agreed with that definition. now you are looking at it from a different perspective.

    i dont think blogs and comments are supposed to function like that. you cant go back over a comment months after it was posted and then start questioning it or asking blogger what was his intent. its to be done at that very instant. you participated in that discusssion, yet you never adopted the posture which you are adopting now. coment posted, either yes or no, carry on. its finished!

    well veena is a stripper, gets paid for her sexual exploits and doesnt feel embarrased at her antics.

    what we should call such a woman. cheap, uncivilised, immoral!

    qibla there are terms designated in every language and yes they are derogatory but you should look up to the individual whose actions lead to such utterances rather than question the commentors.

    these terms are part of literature and one is supposed to understand them so as to enhance his vocabulary. btw, ch2 is never taught in schools or colleges but slut, whore etc is always taught to make one proficient in english. these words reflect your linguistic ability!

    in one of your comments you said veena shows her skin, does outrageous things and butters other side etc. well coin an apt word for this sentence

    precis writing is an art which people are supposed to master as part of their academics and proffesional requirements.

    slut’s common meaning is immoral or dissloute woman; dirty woman or prostitute.! (dictionary.com)

    wiki says Slut or slattern is a pejorative term applied to an individual who is considered to have loose sexual morals or who is sexually promiscuous

    now doesnt veena have loose sexual morals and she also exhibits promiscious sexual tendencies!

    I am not going to debate over that. its something everybody knows and agrees!

    I know you dont want to discuss this further and fact of the matter is I never wanted to discuss this as you can see from my views in previous blogs. yet you were persistent, so now i request to close this matter.

    whats in my heart or why i call her whatever is not something one should be concerned about as much as you say that veena is free to do whatever she wants. likewise I would appreciate if you dont scrutinise my inner soul, i dont think chatting on an online forum 7 seas apart gives you the vision to see within me. arent you being judgemental about me when you say that some sense of superiority exists within me.

    you hardly know me ks as much as I hardly know you. if you rememeber i contested jk ‘s claim about understanding me or i dismissed ng’s analysis about me bakaoz neither I know you guys well enough or you know me.

    btw, how come im promoting religion or doing tableegh over here. come on!

    you check the ijaz video i posted, and then wonder about your assertion.

    bottom line is veena should repent what she did and same is with me. who is superior or inferior, God knows. But you shouldnt throw caution to the wind and start being reckless and then expect respect! it doesnt work anywhere!

    for my money, it was always a closed matter and let it remain so.

  21. #21 by Raju on January 21, 2012 - 8:25 PM

    qiblai

    koi khusgawaar baat karein

    karachI mein is waqt barsaat ho rahi hae

    chodrye veena shheeena ko

    Allah sub ko maaaf karey or hidayat dey

  22. #22 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 22, 2012 - 4:22 AM

    Raju

    Tum barsat may tak dina dhin ker rehay ho, aur hum idher deep freezer may sukar rehay hain. I remember those rainy days in Karachi when I used to take out my Honda 175 motorbike aur “imported” flashy windcheaters pahen ker show martay phirtay thayy!

    Yaar Saad Shafqat is a pretty decent person and, his views are his views which are different from ours so there is nothing one can do about it. After this win, there are so many desis here who are praising Misbah like hell. In fact some of them don’t even know abc of cricket, even they are talking about him.

    One paindoo guy here after hearing the scores on GEO tv or somewhere asked me, “Menu A samaj nai aandi Pakastan sirf 15 run bana ker kion ruk gaya?” I said, bakaoz Pakastan has won the match. He said “but, there were 2 more days of play left, they should have batted as long as they like.”

    I said to myself, “Hairaan hoon, Row-oon Dil ko, kay peetoon Jigar ko mai?” His main concern was, what about the people who paid money in advance to watch for 5 days and they won the match in 3 days, so will they refund the money for the remaining two days? Allaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah inhe aqal day ya maot.

  23. #23 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 22, 2012 - 4:27 AM

    Bhai yeh Munshi Ijaz nay tou bara TAHELKA mucha rekha hai:

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/01/22/not-afraid-of-anyone-coming-to-unveil-the-truth-ijaz.html

  24. #24 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 22, 2012 - 4:39 AM

    I was reading an article on cricinfo by S.Monga, he is once again dreaming like he did before the Sydney test and the Perth test and trying to interpret his dreams that Indian batsmen will play well in Adelaide because the pitch is good for batting and there are no demons in it. Yes we ALL know that there are no demons in any pitch, the demons are inside the heads of the batsmen and they are unable to deal with them hence they are slumbering and hoping that somehow they will score and they will win one test match. Ek test match ka sawal hai baba…… Jab neend tumhe pyari hai tou khele ga kon baba?

    Neend jub kawbon sey pyari ho toh aisey ehd main
    Khawb dekhay koun aur khawbon ki dey taabeer koun?
    Parveen Shakir.

    India has so many defeats in their bag now that khowab bhee suhanay nahee aatay balkay nightmares aatay hain.

    Muddatain Beet Gayeen Khowab Suhanay Dekhay
    Jaag ta rehta hai har neend may bister mera

    Aur Misbah Kenda Aye:

    Hurr Ghari mujh say ulajhta hai Muqaddar mera
    Mai hee Kashti hoon, mujhee may hai samandar mera

    Bechara ulajh ulajh ker khelta hai tabhee RUNZAEN nahee bantay!

    (Zaheer Abass, has coined this word, Runzaen i.e., RUNS …. perhaps he had many Runzaen to the Loo)

  25. #25 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 22, 2012 - 4:45 AM

    khansahab

    Aap iss gaari per ghaor farmayen aur apnay taasuraat bayan kerain!

    http://autos.ca.msn.com/auto-shows/beautiful-girls-of-the-2012-detroit-auto-show

    Kaisa laga ye model apko?

  26. #26 by Raju reporter on January 22, 2012 - 10:55 AM

    jk

    u didnt cummeny about munshi’s wrestling skills 😉

    i guess its poetic justice that a scum like him topples a scum like zardari

    if u think zardari would have loved to b e in that match and his commentary would have been awesomeeeeee……….!

  27. #27 by Sentinel Prime on January 22, 2012 - 1:41 PM

    Gambhir slams Aussie pitches

    Sky Sports

    “We’re beginning to realize that when we go overseas, every country prepares wickets according to their own strengths,” Gambhir said. “We need to prepare according to our advantage as well. There should not be a lot of talk when Australia, South Africa and England come home that we should not be preparing turners.

    “So once these people come to India, I think that we should not be hesitant in making turners. That’s when we will get to know whether they’re mentally strong. The kind of chitchat they do when we go overseas and talk about our techniques, that’s when they will be tested and see how good they are against spin bowling.”
    Sachin distraction

    India’s batsmen have failed all-round, while Sachin Tendulkar is still searching for his 100th international century, but Gambhir insists a win is all that matters in Adelaide.

    “When you are playing for your country you don’t think about individual records or what one individual has to do,” Gambhir said.

    Zero-three is far more hurting than Sachin not scoring his hundred. If we can make it three-one, even if Sachin doesn’t score a hundred, it’s far more satisfying.”

    Added to India’s woes is the fact captain MS Dhoni has been banned due to his team’s slow over rate during their innings defeat in Perth, meaning opener Virender Sehwag will take up captaincy duties in his absence.

    After such a walloping during the series, Gambhir knows that the passionate Indian cricket public will no doubt voice their disapproval upon their return to the sub-continent.

    “Whatever backlash is happening in Indian, we have to accept it,” Gambhir added. “There was a lot of expectation from us that we should have done well with the kind of batting we have. We have let the entire nation down.”
    Hussey

    Australia’s Mike Hussey has responded to talk of his retirement by saying he intends to be available for the tour of the West Indies in March, after averaging above 80 so far during the series with India.

    Pre-series speculation suggested the 36-year-old, along with Ricky Ponting, would be cast aside after the series as Australian selectors look to bed in new younger batsmen ahead of a determined build-up to next year’s Ashes.

    “I’m looking forward to this test match.” Hussey said. “I haven’t looked beyond that at all at this stage.”

    “I’ve just really tried to set myself for this series. But my body feels good and I still feel like I’m playing well. I’m definitely thinking of continuing on. I’d love to go to the West Indies.”

    The Adelaide pitch should offer some spin later on in the Test, with Australia set to drop Mitchell Starc from their fast bowling quartet to make room for spinner Nathan Lyon.

  28. #28 by Sentinel Prime on January 22, 2012 - 1:44 PM

    Ijaz Butt has the last laugh in all of this. He has kicked Afridi and Afridi’s fans in the butt:

    Ijaz Butt lauds Pakistan for Test win

    Dawn

    LAHORE: Former chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Ijaz Butt has hailed the performance of the Pakistan team, especially of its captain Misbah-ul-Haq and bowlers Saeed Ajmal and Umar Gul in the first Test which England lost by ten wickets.

    “The entire team worked very hard to achieve this convincing victory, but the way Misbah led the boys is the main factor behind
    this big achievement and similarly the individual performances of Saeed Ajmal and Umar Gul deserve high praise,” Ijaz told Dawn.

    The PCB faced heavy criticism when we appointed Misbah as captain but now that he has proved himself by leading Pakistan superbly, we stand vindicated with our choice,” he said.

    He said the team was also doing remarkably better as far as discipline was concerned and for that the entire team management including head coach Mohsin Hasan Khan and manager Naveed Akram Cheema deserved lot of credit.

    Ijaz said no one was expecting such an easy win over a top side like England, but the current team achieved the unthinkable because they played like a unit.

  29. #29 by Sentinel Prime on January 22, 2012 - 2:08 PM

    Pakistan skipper Misbah ul Haq fears England backlash

    The Mirror

    Pakistan skipper Misbah ul-Haq savoured the 10-wicket win – but warned his men to expect an England backlash next week.

    “It is a big victory against the No.1 team in the world and it is a confidence booster for our team, but it doesn’t mean we can relax in the upcoming matches,” he said.

    “We will expect a really tough time from them in the next game so we have to be ready for that.
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    “When you are the best team in the world there is something gets you there. They have quality cricketers, good batsmen and fighting bowlers so they can come really hard at you.”

    Saeed Ajmal finished with match figures of 10-97 and Misbah hopes questions about chucking will be put to bed.

    He added: “Ajmal has had his action cleared by the ICC.

    “He’s played county cricket in England and no one said anything about it. People should now just admit he’s a good bowler.”

  30. #30 by Sentinel Prime on January 22, 2012 - 2:10 PM

    Sachin, a cricket god: Hussey

    Indo-Asian News Service

    Australian batsman Michael Hussey has termed India’s batting great Sachin Tendulkar a “cricket god” ahead of the fourth and final Test beginning at the Adelaide Oval on Tuesday.

    Hussey commended the batsman on his ability to handle pressure and perform so well at the highest
    level for such a long time.

    “He is a cricket god and yet how he handles himself in India, in a cricket-mad country, where just to walk on the street means being mobbed by thousands and thousands of people, to handle all this and put it aside and perform for India for over 20 years in international cricket is just amazing,” he told reporters in Adelaide.

    Hussey said that watching Tendulkar bat from close quarters has been a great experience for him, adding that the master blaster has played well in the ongoing series and his elusive 100th hundred is around the corner.

    “He has played brilliantly. Watching him closely, his footwork, the time he has and the straight bat, both off the front and backfoot, he is playing really well. If he continues it is inevitable (the hundred).

    “That is the way batting goes. Sometimes you are playing well but one ball, one mistake and you are back to the pavilion. I am sure to his own mind he is batting well, his bat is as broad as ever at the moment,” Hussey added.

    Hussey said he admires how Tendulkar has approached the game in more than a two-decade old career.

    “I don’t know what he is going through mentally. I haven’t scored 99 centuries though I would love to be in that position and feel the pressure. I have admired him how he has gone through his whole career. To score consistently at such a long period of time and deal with external pressures is amazing,” he said.

  31. #31 by Sentinel Prime on January 22, 2012 - 2:15 PM

    The only team capable of winning in any condition is South Africa. Australia will be beaten in England. I get the feeling SA can perform in England.

    Conditions-wise the best teams are:

    1. SA
    2. Australia
    3. India and England both. India will normally perform better in Australia and England than how England will perform on Asian pitches, so I will place them equally. Indians have played a lot in England and Australia so they ought to perform decently there.

    England don’t need to panic after Pakistan loss, writes Alec Stewart

    The Mirror

    WRITE off this England team at your peril, butone thing’s certain, wemust see a vastly-improved performance in Wednesday’s second Test.

    I won’t start to defend the batting in the first Test when the top six could muster a mere 143 runs ­between them in both innings.

    But let’s not push the panic button just yet.

    This England side pride themselves on their fighting qualities and they will be hurting after their poorest batting display since being bowled out twice at the WACA in their only loss in the last Ashes series.

    The big question is how quickly can the current No.1 team in the world learn and adapt to the ­conditions in the UAE?

    Andrew Strauss’s team are ranked at the top of the list, but does that mean they are the best team in the world? To be the very best you must be able to win in all conditions.

    After a three-month break with no Test cricket, England will have started the tour feeling fresh and raring to go.

    The two warm-up games were won despite the top order not contributing the big totals they’ve become accustomed to in recent times.

    But England would still have gone into the opening Test in a confident frame of mind.

    Winning the toss and batting first in ideal conditions should have given them a head start, but going in to lunch on day one five wickets down meant they were never in control of the game.

    During my playing days I always preferred to play in front of a full house rather than the kind of empty stadium the players had in Dubai.

    But once you’re out in the middle you block out the crowd and concentrate on the job.

    I don’t think the empty stadium can be used as an excuse for our poor batting display.

    You concentrate on the ball, not the empty seats.

    Full credit then to Pakistan for the way they dominated theirvisitors from start to finish and thoroughly deserved their emphatic 10-wicket win.

    They quite simply outplayed England in all departments of the game.

    The mystery spin of Saeed Ajmal, which I highlighted earlier this month, proved too much for England. His career-best seven-wicket haul in the first innings was a mixture of good bowling and very poor shot selection.

    Not knowing which way the ball will turn along with the misreading of length brought about England’s downfall and, unfortunately, I can’t see things getting much easier for the rest of the series.

    Every batsman should have been studying footage of Ajmal bowling to give themselves a chance to succeed, but too many looked like rabbits caught in headlights.

    Ajmal’s ‘doosra’ is a great weapon and, despite murmurings about the legality of his action, he has been cleared by the ICC and therefore it should not become an issue.

    The talk going into the opening Test revolved largely around the make-up of the team and whether Monty Panesar (left) should play in a five-man bowling attack with a batsman left out.

    I wasn’t in favour of that balance and would still go into the next game with just four frontline bowlers. Bowling Pakistan out for 338 was a job well done so I see no need to change. What I do want to see is a more concentrated effort from the batsmen in playing to the situation and the conditions while maintaining a positive intent.

    We have all played poor and reckless shots in our time but learning from your mistakes is key. Kevin Pietersen has copped a fair amount of flak for his second innings dismissal, but he was not alone in throwing his wicket away.

    If we have a repeat of the ill- discipline we witnessed last week then any talk about being the very best will sound rather hollow.

    I expect a much better showing in the second Test starting on Wednesday and I’m sure Strauss and his team will be looking to bounce back.

    Don’t write off this group of players yet, though I am sure Pakistan will be ready and waiting to expose any frailties.

  32. #32 by Sentinel Prime on January 22, 2012 - 2:18 PM

    Saeed Ajmal action defended by Worcestershire

    ENGLAND nemesis Saeed Ajmal has been defended by Worcestershire as they finalise the Pakistan star’s signing for this summer’s Twenty20 campaign.

    World No.1 spinner Ajmal made England’s batsmen look like desert prats with a 10-wicket haul during the first Test humiliation in Dubai, leading some former players to question the legitimacy of his doosra – the ball that leaves the right-hander.

    Former England skipper Bob Willis was at the forefront of debate over whether Ajmal’s right arm flexes more than the15 degrees permitted in delivery by the International Cricket Council.

    But Worcestershire director of cricket Steve Rhodes says scepticism surrounding the 34-year-old – who has agreed to return to New Road as a 20-over specialist following an eight-week stint there last summer – stems from jealousy.

    Ex-England wicketkeeper Rhodes said: “Having worked with Ajmal last summer, I’ve no problem with his action at all.

    The reason that people question his action is because they are envious of what he can do.

    “Different things happen when he bowls and because his action is unusual, people suspect that something is wrong. But I don’t want this to be sour grapes.”

  33. #33 by Raju reporter on January 22, 2012 - 2:28 PM

    absoulte pathetic stuff from gambhir!

    instead of learning to play on seaming pitches, he’s advocating square turners.

    mr gambhir how many green pitches are in india or in how many matches india prepared green tracks.

    whatever you say, australia has won against india in india but india hasnt beaten australia in their country.

    and btw mr gambhir when was australia or england whitewashed in india?

    grow up man! analyse properly : razz:

  34. #34 by Raju reporter on January 22, 2012 - 2:44 PM

    Iaqm perplexed!

    should i agree with the blogger or not!

    what u guys say about this!

    http://tazeen-tazeen.blogspot.com/2012/01/somebody-save-shahid-afridi.html

  35. #35 by Raju reporter on January 22, 2012 - 2:49 PM

    yes hes ordinary and so are you mr PM

    billions of bucks are consumed by your fancy parties- like one you gave for anjy jolie etc

    now you feel this guy might screw you , so you have resorted to this campaign.

    why dont you guys confront his charges and prove that he’s a scum

    http://www.samaa.tv/newsdetail.aspx?ID=41977&CID=1

  36. #36 by Sentinel Prime on January 22, 2012 - 2:51 PM

    RR

    I don’t know why you are trying to impose upon me that I accepted your use of “slut” earlier. If I did not criticise it then it does not mean I approved of it. There are many things I can have a problem with, but it does not mean I respond to them immediately.

    I am not saying this like some kind of policeman. I am saying this like a fellow contributor.

    The discussion earlier about Veena was based on your sympathy with her and resentment for the Mullah in that TV show. My argument then was not about what words you use to describe Veena, it was about why you are only understanding her POV and not understanding the Mullah’s POV.

    I was pointing out the bias in your analysis then, the discussion was not about what should be the appropriate language to describe what Veena has done.

    For the record, I did grimace at your phrase “bitches and sluts” but that was a general and wide-ranging phrase which looked less harmful than specifying one person (Veena) to be a slut.

    There was no need for me to write this comment but, you are so intent on trying to establish that, somehow I accepted this description of Veena earlier happily, and I am now just trying to pick a fight with you because of whatever reason.

  37. #37 by Raju reporter on January 22, 2012 - 3:59 PM

    ks

    you are most welcome to dissect all my cumments on legslip, dissect them and publish a report on their suitability vis a vis ethics and ala bla….

    grimace?????

    how is that shown on a cyber forum

    you didnt protest like you are now. why after 3 months? am I suuposed to type something and wait till eternity about your feedback !

    less harmful or more harmful- what??

    these are your standards; do they have a divine stamp over them? what compulsion is there to abide by these standards.

    when you say you accepted views about a group , the matter is over. slut or group of sluts thats the same.

    ks, debate over something significant.

    now i wont respond, and I mean it. its something i never do here ie when people address me, i reply.

    .

    .

  38. #38 by Sentinel Prime on January 22, 2012 - 4:27 PM

    RR

    You said something, I gave my opinion about why I did not like what you said.

    If you criticise something I say, should I also start using language like, “divine stamp”?

    Can you please read before you actually write something? What kind of divine right am I professing?

    If you don’t agree with me over something, I don’t turn around and use words like “your highness” or “divine stamp”.

    Why can’t we discuss the merits of our rationales rather than discuss what rights or ethics anyone has to criticise?

    I am not a policeman, a Mullah, a judge or anything, I just criticised your view as a fellow blog contributor.

  39. #39 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 22, 2012 - 4:38 PM

    My reaction after reading Gambhir’s statement is, Gambhir is a pukka Ch2So4 he has a big mouth and he always blabs BS, he is the most arrogant player in India a complete opposite of Rahul Dravid the finest gentleman.

  40. #40 by Raju reporter on January 22, 2012 - 4:42 PM

    Jk

    gambhir’s dimagh is undergoing gambhir samasya. These confessions infact reflect a defeatist mindset and an admision that adelaide is also gone.

  41. #41 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 22, 2012 - 4:48 PM

    Raju

    Ask that MFPM how about millions of dollars spent on his security? Recently on a Friday Gillani and his Bhangi R. Malak, went to Faisal Mosque in Islamabad and they blocked ALL roads approaching the mosque bakaoz his chamchas were also following him and the ordinary citizen could not go to the mosque that day for prayers.

    Also, why the hello did he provide Zardari bullet proof cars and 5 star security since he is an elected leader of the so-called democracy in Pakistan?

    And, from where did he earn those millions of dollars that his wife Pauzia, Craziya bought a pendant for 750,000 pound sterling?

    And, from where did he acquire so much wealth that his son buys every hot property in London?

    Basically Ijaz has made him shit bricks and he is saying, he has shaken the country? Actually he has “Bambooed” him and Zardari.

  42. #42 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 22, 2012 - 4:49 PM

    That AD is one of the most idiotic ad I have seen, it seems like a brain child of PHUTTA BAJA.

  43. #43 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 22, 2012 - 4:51 PM

    KS

    Yesterday I was talking to one of my friends in Dubai and asked him if he has seen the test match? He said, he went to witness only the last hour of the game and the stadium was empty only a few goras and a few die hard cricket fans were there and when the scores were leveled, there was so much clapping in the ground as if England has won the match.

  44. #44 by Raju reporter on January 22, 2012 - 5:01 PM

    Jk

    lol @ phuta baja

    do u know there was a mobilink jazba ad where afridi climbs stairs and a boy gives him some magical stuff just prior to WC.

    When pk lost there was an sms saying that the boy gave afridi a PUDIYA OF NASWAR!

  45. #45 by raju reporter on January 22, 2012 - 8:28 PM

    gambhir’s outburst, srinivasan’s views and slater’s reaction

    all add up to an interesting scenario

    has india been too negative with defeats?

    http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8405460

  46. #46 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 23, 2012 - 2:00 AM

    India is not just too negative after the defeats, actually they are acting like a CUDDACK MURGI.

    Gambhir should get this message tattooed on his BUM: Enough is Enough! I will not allow Pakistanis to F me again!

  47. #47 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 23, 2012 - 2:09 AM

    Raju

    No,I did not see that Afridi Ad. Actually, after the WC, I got my satellite dish disconnected. I never watched TV that much because I have many other things to do and keep myself busy. I got the dish only because of cricket and after 10 years, I realized it is not worth paying $120 a month just for nothing especially when you have crap players like Mishap. (120x12x10=$14,400, sheesh thats a lot of money I spent.) I can read news here on the computer and that is enough. I have wasted too much money for this crap. Secondly, once you get glued to the TV set, it makes you a couch potato. Another thing that I got rid of is the ritual Nihari parties at my house on every single match match that is played on a week-end, and my place was more like a LUNGER and all free fund eaters used to come, they are neither your friends nor your well-wishers. So, with the Satellite Dish gone, the lunger is also closed. 😀

  48. #48 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 23, 2012 - 2:14 AM

    Cricket is a weird game, two SA players scored a century each and posted a total of 312 still they lost the match against SL. LOL.

  49. #49 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 23, 2012 - 2:17 AM

    Shukar hai tomorrow it will rain and from -13C tonight we will have temp. of +3C and that is a big reprieve and a blessing, because for the last ten days it was constantly between -10C to -30C. 😀

  50. #50 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 23, 2012 - 5:57 AM

    JAVED MIANDAD AIRS THE SAME VIEWS AS I HAVE BEEN RAVING AND RANTING FOR A LONG TIME I.E., ABOUT ICC RANKINGS

    NEW DELHI: with Pakistan shedding their notorious unpredictability and Australia coming to terms with a tricky transition, test cricket hierarchy in the next couple of months might look more like a banana republic… ripe for a coup.

    The International Cricket Council (ICC) dangles an annual $175,000 carrot for whichever team tops test rankings on the April 1 cut-off date and table-toppers England were justified in believing they could be cashing the cheque in a few months.

    They still lead the race by a healthy margin but being thumped by an ambitious Pakistan team inside three days of their first test this year, skipper Andrew Strauss and his team mates can no longer take it for granted.

    If England may be lined up for an April Fool’s Day surprise, the situation is even worse for the team they inherited the number one ranking from.

    India, beaten 4-0 by England last year, are staring at their second successive overseas whitewash against an Australian team determined to claw their way back to the top.

    The inconsistencies at the top are good news for South Africa, who now sniff a slim chance to gatecrash England’s party.

    At present, England top the official rankings with 125 points, followed by India (118), South Africa (117), Australia (103), Pakistan (99) and Sri Lanka (98).

    England’s rise to the top was a reward for a blemish-free 2011 when Strauss’s men did not lose a single test.

    But the side were given a rude awakening in Dubai earlier this week where Pakistan, one of the most improved teams last year with just one loss and six wins, spanked them in three days to go 1-0 up in the three-match series.

    “This England team have not won in the subcontinent. They even played badly in the World Cup last year, which was held in India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka,” former England opener Geoffrey Boycott wrote in a column in the Telegraph newspaper.

    “Until they start playing well in the subcontinent they can’t call themselves the best team in the world and definitely can’t be judged against some of the other great England sides,” Boycott added.

    Former Pakistan skipper Javed Miandad was also quick to pour scorn over the ICC system.

    “I don’t believe much in rankings because it doesn’t give a clear picture of the team’s overall performance in the world,” Miandad was quoted as saying by Cricinfo (www.espncricinfo.com).

    “England are now the number one team because they had the home advantage and never lost in their backyard.”

    There was similar disputing of India’s rise to the top despite their woeful record outside the subcontinent.

    However, England can still guarantee themselves the hefty ICC cheque by winning at least one of the remaining two tests against Pakistan or drawing both.

    But if Pakistan beat England by a 2-0 margin or more, South Africa could pocket the cheque, provided they can blank New Zealand in the away test series in March.

    England now have two tests to redeem themselves or it would be more instability at the top, which may be good for the game but certainly not for Strauss and his men. AGENCIES

  51. #51 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 23, 2012 - 6:16 AM

    KYA BAAT HAI — ANDHAA BAANTAY RAYWREE WO BHEE APNAY APNAON KO
    (BLIND DISTRIBUTING SWEETS TO BLIND ONLY)

    “Misbah said every player is selfless, quoting an example of the third day in the first Test against England.

    “You can judge the unity by the fact that Abdul Rehman himself came to me and asked to be replaced by Saeed Ajmal so that he (Ajmal) could get the third wicketneeded to complete his 10 in the match,” Misbah revealed.

  52. #52 by Raju reporter on January 23, 2012 - 1:44 PM

    DILSHAN QUITS AS CAPT.

    AT least he has more integrity than MSD or the oldies in indian team who refuse to retire.

  53. #53 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 23, 2012 - 3:41 PM

    What is MSD? I know LSD which is C20H25N3O ……….. rehi baat quitting ki, they need a kick in the butt.

  54. #54 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 23, 2012 - 3:51 PM

    Is the blog sleeping or suffering from Monday morning blues?

    See how Wasim Chakram takes a 180 degree turn when it comes to boasting about his own bowling. During the 2011 WC when Shahid Afridi was talking to his bowlers, Wasim said, I would be pissed off if my captain keeps talking to me like this.

    You give the ball to the bowler, ask him how to set the field and that is it. Not only now he is negating his own comments but, 5 minutes later when the fellow commentator asked him whether Imran Khan was of any help to him? He started blabbing the same thing which he has said in this interview:

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/01/23/i-have-intimidated-others-never-got-intimidated-myself-wasim-akram.html

    “And then there was Imran. All the technicalities related to fast bowling, the mental grooming, reading batsmen’s mind, everything – I learned from him.

    So Imran Khan was to you what Terry Jenner was to Warne?

    Definitely. Especially when it came to fast bowling. Generally I had two mentors, him and Miandad.

    Imran always stood at mid-on, whispering in your ear. Tell us about that and if you can recall specific instances following or not following his advice.

    I always followed his advice because I needed somebody to guide me, give me confidence for the ball I was about to bowl…aur Imran say behtar to koi bowler tha hi nahi confidence bharanay kai liyay (and there was no better bowler than Imran when you needed a confidence boost).”

  55. #55 by Raju reporter on January 23, 2012 - 8:36 PM

  56. #56 by Sentinel Prime on January 23, 2012 - 10:37 PM

    India vs Australia will start in a few hours.

    Sehwag will be under pressure. I hope he does not bring himself down the order- the team needs him to open. He wins one in 4 or 5 matches single handedly so he might do it in this Test. If he fails in this Test, India need to stop selecting him for overseas tours in England, Australia and South Africa.

    Gambhir has a big mouth and he needs to perform, his performance is under the scanner. It was a pathetic press conference where he was saying that India needs to prepare spinning tracks at home so that conditions are difficult for touring teams. India always do that anyway?

    My question to Newguy is that, what will happen if Laxman manages to score a 50? Should he still be selected in the future irrespective of the Test result?

    Tendulkar is not retiring even if he fails I guess- he has already scored some runs in this series.

  57. #57 by Sentinel Prime on January 23, 2012 - 10:41 PM

    Cook is saying that he is now more prepared to battle Pakistan in the 2nd Test.

    Let’s see what happens. It will be a shame if England can’t put up a fight.

    Ajmal, Gul and others deserve credit for putting England under pressure. I am not pleased with the batting still, because it is the same policy of playing as slowly as possible with little regard for trying to produce a result.

    Ajmal is normally not as good as Swann and Gul is not a world class bowler but they have both bowled well. Even though these are familiar conditions, it does take some mettle to break England.

    So pat on the back for the bowlers but England can bounce back.

  58. #58 by NewGuy on January 23, 2012 - 10:58 PM

    KS,

    Yes, India-Australia will start in an hours or so, other than just something to pass time on for the next three to five days, there isn’t much left in it. Australia of course wants to clean sweep, so they will be motivated. India, even if they win, it is nothing, because they have lost 7 tests on the trot overseas, except they can claim they won at least one test. Seriously it is a huge hurdle mentally, I don’t see it happening, technically teams are still well matched, but mentally India is not there.

    Chicken hearts like Gambhir, Ishant, and Kohli wants to go back, Dhoni already mentioned about retirement from Tests in 2013. Only people not talking negative are the three oldies.

    Which brings me to your question on Laxman. I don’t want to see Laxman axed or retiring after this series. Yes, you heard it right. The time for that kind of thing is gone. I know I called for the oldies to retire, that was before Perth, when there still was chance of a drawn series.

    What is the big point in having Laxman not play this Test, what is the point in Rohit Sharma playing, it is only one Test and series is over. Next overseas is not even in two years, so he is not even going to get experience.

    Let Laxman play and retire with dignity on a home series. Laxman served India so well, and he deserves to be shown respect.

    Same for SRT and Dravid. Why should oldies alone retire, when Sehwag, Gambhir, and Dhoni has not even less in England and Australia.

    If Laxman should retire, so should Sehwag, Gambhir, and Dhoni. So, in my view, time for changes are gone, they lost two series, but they were part of the core team that included Kumble, Ganguly, and Harbhajan that achieved so much abroad at one time.

    Those who have not achieved are, Gambhir, Dhoni, Kohli and Ishant, as well as the likes of Yuvraj, Raina. They are not showing the fight or desire to win on pacy pitches.

    The three oldies plus Kumble and Ganguly wanted to win abroad and they did in their peak, not they no longer can carry the team. But for that reason I don’t want them axed after everything is lost, especially when others haven’t done anything.

    The best thing is to give the three seniors retire with dignity in the next two series. I don’t care what some Bal or Monga is writing on Cricinfo, those guys are always late to the party and most often they are putting their wishes in there, for instance Sehwag batting down the order is not his idea, but some stupid Indian media guy putting this idea to him, and he simply responds to it. To me Sehwag should open, or should step out. He is not a good middle order bat. Make way if you can’t do your primary job.

  59. #59 by NewGuy on January 23, 2012 - 11:06 PM

    KS / JK,

    Pakistan is looking formidable under Misbah, at least in familiar conditions, which is not all too granted BTW, you still have to win at home and you need to plan and play well for that. Why am I not surprised not to have read a single word on his captaincy in this thread. I thought I will not bother to write, but now that I am here, I will just ask anyway.

    If Pakistan lost this last Test or Drawn it, I am sure you would have written plenty about Misbah’s negative tactics and defensive captaincy. But they have won it, there is not one word mentioned. It is as if the individuals in Team just performed and won, without any planning, field setting, bowling changes, or other tactics from the Captain.

    I think you should perhaps start thinking whether Misbah is doing something right after all. You know at some point high conviction your beliefs can turn to be plain stubbornness to access facts.

  60. #60 by NewGuy on January 23, 2012 - 11:07 PM

    BTW, Dubai is not home to Pakistan, so it is still a challenge to win there.

  61. #61 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 12:20 AM

    Interesting captaincy from Sehwag so far, he’s brought on Ashwin in the 4th over, learning from Misbah may be 😉 Hafeez with new ball.

  62. #62 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 2:39 AM

    NewGuy

    I think you need to read my comments in the previous thread once again, because I have still criticized Misbah by asking WHAT HAS MISBAH DONE IN THIS TEST? I have also written that because of his negative and slow batting (52 runs in 154 balls @ a strike rate of 33) the team which could have taken a lead of more than 200 failed because he halted the progress of the run rate. So why are you saying that because he won there is not a word of criticism?

    Secondly, although you are saying jokingly that Sehwag may have learned from Misbah like he used Hafeez to open bowling with the new ball, he brought in Ashwin. It is not Misbah, Afridi used Hafeez a lot of times to open the bowling, how can you just ignore the recent past and remember only the present situation?

    IMO, Dhoni or whoever selected the team for the 3rd test was a stupid idiot that he dropped Ashwin and brought in Vinay Kumar. Ashwin was constantly getting wickets and scoring runs in the previous 2 matches he played in Australia, dropping him was a blunder it is this kinda Ch2yapay you expect only from Indians and Pakistanis….. no one else drops a youngster who is performing so well with the bat and the ball.

  63. #63 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 2:42 AM

    Shaun Marsh is not in good form at all he failed in this entire series like Laxman, so ignore his wicket and consider Australia as 98/2 at lunch instead of 98/3. Ponting and Clarke has once again got together and Ponting looks solid and he may score a century here. Besides, there is Hussey, Haddin too so I don’t think Australia has collapsed here.

  64. #64 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 2:47 AM

    TO COME OR NOT TO COME? — MUSHARAF’S MEETING WITH PASHA IN DUBAI

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/01/23/isi-chief-secretly-meets-musharraf-in-dubai-sources.html

  65. #65 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 2:55 AM

    LOL @ KHARBOOZAY KO DEKH KER KHARBOOZA RANG PAKRAY!~

    Reporter Raju kay liyeh ye khabar sansani khez hogi kay La’hore ki diamond market ka ek aur nayab heera import ho reha hai vo bhee Umreeka!

    http://www.samaa.tv/samaavideolist.aspx?ID=3821

    Zara jumlay per ghaor farmaiyeh, MAI JALD AZ JALD SHAADI KERNA CHAHTI HOON AUR MERAY APNAY BUCCHAY HON AUR MERI ITNI KOSHISH HAI KAY AAPKI SOCH SAY ZIYAADA …… goya kay “she can’t wait anymore.” Sabr ka payemana labraiz ho gaya — chalka chahta hai. 😀

    Ps.

    That boy looks more like her son than a husband! Usko bhee lagta hai aaj tuk kisi nay lift nahee kerayee hogi aur ye GT mill gayee usay! 😀

  66. #66 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 3:10 AM

    One of the problems India has that every one overlooked is that when ever wickets have fallen quickly for Australia, India have allowed them to ease the pressure through giving away easy boundaries. Just now in this Test after they were 31/2, Ponting came in and were allowed to score freely. It is one thing that Australian bowlers have done to tie down Indian batsmen by not allowing boundaries, according to Sehwag’s own admission. However, Indians bowlers have failed to do so. Zaheer, Ishant, and Yadav all have failed to bowl to a discipline, and gives easy boundary balls every over by bowling on leg side, or short and wide. It is one huge difference between the sides.

    As of now again this is in evidence, instead of putting Aussies under pressure of having lost 98/2 they have allowed Clarke and Ponting to score freely at 5 RPO. There is are easy boundaries available. This will release the pressure, then captain will have to set the field back to defensive setting, and they will score big runs.

    Indian on the other hand always finds that after 3 wickets hard to come back, because Aussie bowlers are bowling wicket to wicket on a good length just outside off stump. They rarely error on leg side or give width. Something that Indian bowlers and coach are missing.

    It is actually easy to blame the batting because on evidence looks like they are the ones not doing the job, but credit must be given to the Aussie bowlers for bowling to a plan and not giving away easy runs, this created pressure of a loose shot or an edge.

    Indian bowlers are not being able to exert same pressure after getting crucial breaks. This time too they are letting them run away. Until the bowlers have a good coach who will work with them to make them bowl to a plan they can never put teams under pressure. Of course quality of bowlers matters. Ishant has been around for too long now and he still has no consistent line. Yadav is new, but so is Pattinson, so no excuse for the loose balls on offer. Zaheer for a bowler of his experience bowls on the leg side every once in a while and gives boundaries.

    This is costing them, where as it is easy to blame batting alone.

  67. #67 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 3:16 AM

    JK

    Yes, I read the comments where you criticized Misbah for making 52 from 154 balls, even though Pakistan won with 2 days to spare. Are you really worried there wasn’t enough time.

    I said he did bat slow, but under the circumstances, what would you prefer, try to bat fast and lose his wicket and start a middle order collapse, and end up not getting a significant lead, or bat carefully against a disciplined English attack and gradually get advantage. His batting on second day got them a crucial 93 run lead. I don’t think that was a bad strategy, since there were 3 more days left.

    Misbah is not going to bat fast, I think everyone knows that, then he is doing the best he can do get team to safety. I always said only one thing, that he is doing a decent job, he has the results to show, it is also refreshing to see a Pakistan captain not getting involved in controversies and unnecessary talks.

  68. #68 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 3:18 AM

    Raju — Here is a some food for thought for you. You must have heard this story from Late Moin Akhtar — still I am going to write it here and see where I am connecting this to?:

    There was a big Chaudhry Saab and he decided to fight an election so, he asked one of his Haari-Mawari Chamcha to accompany him on his trip to other Pinds (villages) and do some canvasing for him. When they set off, on the way Chaudhry Saabs PYJAMA got torn in a bush i.e., when he went for a bush (Arabs say Bush for peeing). When the Chamcha saw that, he said, Chaudhry Saab A key ho gaya toada pyjama futt gaya? He said, koi gull nai, the chamcha said, nai nai chaudhry saab tusi enj kero, tusi sada pyjama payne lo. So, they exchanged their pyjama.

    They reached a village and the chamcha stood on a high ground and announced after beating his drum about the arrival of Chaudhry Saab and he said the following to introduce the Chaudhry:

    A Saaday Pind day baot Wadday Chaudhry, inna dee wadee jaidaad, tay wadee zameena, tay lukhaan mawaishiyaan tay flaan, flaan LAIKIN A pyjama mera aye!

    Chaudhry Saab gave his speech and from there they left for another village and on the way, he told his Chamcha A wadee paidee gul kitti tusi, tenu A nai kayna chaiye da — A pyjama mera aye! The Chamcha apologized by saying, O jee ghalati ho gayee.

    They reached the second village and he announced it in the same way:”A Saaday Pind day baot Wadday Chaudhry, inna dee wadee jaidaad, tay wadee zameena, tay lukhaan mawaishiyaan tay flaan, flaan — hore ye Pyjama V ina da aye!”

    Chaudhry Saab was once again very upset and told him, tenu zaroorat ki aye Pyjamay da zikr kernay di? He once again apologized and when they reached the 3rd village he gave the same introductory speech: “A Saaday Pind day baot Wadday Chaudhry, inna dee wadee jaidaad, tay wadee zameena, tay lukhaan mawaishiyaan tay flaan, flaan — PYJAMAY DA KOI ZIKR NAYE.”

    Pyjama = Veena 🙂

  69. #69 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 3:24 AM

    NewGuy

    It is a blessing for him that England batting collapsed and this is not likely to happen every time, it may happen in the UAE but not outside the UAE so, basically it was a negative approach, the team could have had a lead of 200 but, how can you score more when the captain is playing slow? At the moment Ponting has scored 62 runs at a strike rate of 70+ and Clarke’s strike rate is 62. If Misbah was here he would have a strike rate of 30. Anyways, my opinion about his negative approach will NOT change unless he changes is approach.

  70. #70 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 3:27 AM

    For records I want to say here that despite the fact that I don’t like Misbah’s batting or captaincy, I don’t want England to get that $175.000 cheque from the ICC, I want SA to get that, it means I want Pakistan to beat England with a min. margin of 2-0

  71. #71 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 3:30 AM

    NG

    I dunno why Sehwag did not continue with Ashwin after lunch, instead he brought Zaheer and Yadav and the Aussies scored freely and added almost 50 runs in no time and now he realized that too many runs have been given on a silver platter, he has brought Ashwin, it will definitely slow down the RR and could possibly even get a wicket. If you and I can think of this, why can’t Sehwag?

  72. #72 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 3:30 AM

    Australia 140/3. This is what I said earlier, Ponting and Clarke added 56 runs in no time. Yadav is going at over 7 RPO, T20 mode. Zaheer and Ashwin are under 3 RPO, Ishant did not bowl for sometime, but he is under 2 RPO. So, Yadav the big culprit here giving away easy runs.

    India need to fire their bowling coach. Yadav is a rookie, he has good pace and build needed for bowling fast, a good bowling coach should be able to shape him up. Ishant too has gone sideways for a long time.

    The SA bowling coach, Eric Simmons is not doing anything it seems. I wonder why the think tanks are not bothered by India’s young bowlers going sideways. It is the culture sadly in sub continent. A player has to be naturally good, or work on his own ability, motivation, and effort to make it good. Otherwise the administrators don’t to anything to make average players into better ones through coaching.

    Compare to Australia and England, I don’t believe these bowlers like Siddle, Hilfy, and Harris are so much better, they are being coached to do well. There are of course naturally gifted bowlers like Steyn, and we can tell the difference.

    If we look at India, Pakistan, SL, and WI, all great players came through natural ability and their own effort. Take Wasim and Waqar for instance, or Saqlain, or Ajmal. None of them were coached. But if we take England and Australia, they always make average players into slightly better ones through coaching. Perhaps it is just the difference in mind set in developed countries.

  73. #73 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 3:38 AM

    See that’s my point, Ashwin gave only 4 runs in 3 overs, he has applied brakes on free scoring but Ishant is still wayward but, he has always gotten Ponting so that is the only hope. In any case both batsmen are looking good and if they play this session without getting out, the score will be over 220 and by the end of the day it will be over 300…… provided they stay or Hussey scores too.

  74. #74 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 3:40 AM

    JK,

    I don’t think it is easy for England to put into practice this come back thing. It is a lot like India saying they are slow starters and they will come back. Well, we all saw what happened with that. England has no clue how to play on low and slow wickets facing spinners. Sub continental teams are masters in their own back yard with the kind of field settings for slow and low pitches. Just like having four slips, gully, point, and short leg for fast bowlers do the trick against Asian teams. I think England will struggle in coming two tests. They may come back better, but I doubt they will dominate the bowling. The key is how Strauss and Cook perform, these two are very patient and can bat for long periods, if one of them, or both can click then England will find it easier. If they both keep failing, then the middle order will find the pressure too much to handle. I am looking forward to the second Test, since there is already so much anticipation. I would like to see English press and ex-players getting egg on their face one more time. If they lose second Test also, that will be a big blow to their bubble.

  75. #75 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 3:46 AM

    Ponting and Clarke are taking the game away once more. Another issue is that Indian team is full of uncles who cannot dive to stop the ball or chase after them to stop runs, that puts pressure back on bowler. Australians of course field well through out the day and support the bowlers. India’s uncle party simply will start relaxing once the lunch settles into the tummy. Then only thing to look forward to is Team and snacks, after that they must be thinking what’s on Dinner menu. With these kind of fatties and oldies, Cricket is not such an athletic activity, it is more like a leisure in the park.

  76. #76 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 3:48 AM

    I meant to say, India’s uncle part is snoozing on the field after a good lunch, and they are now thinking about Tea and snacks, after Tea there is always Dinner to look forward to. LOL.

  77. #77 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 3:53 AM

    Yeah NG but, no one can beat Inzi on that. However, Ponting too is of the same age as your uncles but, he dives and fields well. Right now Sharma after bowling one maiden over has again given away 10 runs in his next over allowing Ponting and Clarke to score freely. Ashwin on the other hand is doing a good job.

  78. #78 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 4:01 AM

    Ishant Sharma is a crap bowler, I doubt he will be in the team this long if only he is not from Delhi and has got friends in Gambhir and Sehwag who are also from Delhi.

  79. #79 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 4:02 AM

    What a way to reach his (Clarke’s) fifty ……. two fours in a row to reach 50 and that is Classy Clarke.

  80. #80 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 4:03 AM

    Every batsman will look classy against Indian bowling…

  81. #81 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 4:04 AM

    Yeah, but this was Ashwin and he was so far bowling at a pretty decent line and length and also got 2 wickets.

  82. #82 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 4:05 AM

    Wonder how it will look like if Sehwag, Tendulkar, Dravid, and Laxman gets to bat against Ishant, Yadav, and Vinay Koomar …

  83. #83 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 4:05 AM

    Clarke is very good against spin .. he uses his feet to step down and negate the spin.

  84. #84 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 4:08 AM

    Don’t they play against these bowlers in the domestic circuit and in the IPL?

  85. #85 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 4:15 AM

    AT this run rate they may score 330 runs by the end of the day especially if these two remain not out, Ponting is in his 80’s now. Like someone said, this looks like a Sydney repeat show. I am feeling sleepy now and when I will see the scores later, I won’t be disappointed because, Indian bowling is looking very ineffective now and they need to lift themselves up to contain Australia from scoring 300+

  86. #86 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 4:18 AM

    Another milestone in Ponting’s career, he has scored 13000 runs in test cricket and this must bring smiles on Gavaskar’s face 😀

    “Ponting reached the mark in his 275th innings which is second to Tendulkar’s 266. Dravid got there in fewer matches (160) than Ponting (162) and Tendulkar (163).”

  87. #87 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 4:23 AM

    An interesting quote:

    “Isn’t it amazing that the top 3 runs scorers of all time are within about 50m of each other playing the same match right now!”

  88. #88 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 4:46 AM

    INDIAN DESPERATION:

    OVER 57.5
    Kohli to Clarke, 3 runs, hang on, I think the Indians have appealed for Clarke obstructing the field as he went for a quick single. According to the new laws, a batsman can be given out for changing course and blocking a throw. but he wasn’t changing course this time. He wasn’t even looking at the ball as Zaheer’s throw from square leg bounced off his bat. A ridiculous appeal, a desperate appeal.

    At tea Australia are 214/3 they scored 116 runs in this session and now 32 more overs remaining in the day they can easily score another 116 to make it 330 ……. once again IF these two remain not out.

  89. #89 by raju reporter on January 24, 2012 - 8:25 AM

    India once again pulverized by australuia

    india always had a suspect attack, so all trhis fuss about coaching and all doesnt make sense.

    fast bowlers are born and groomed. a medium pacer can never be converted into a gfast bowler.

    for some reason ,india never had EXPRESS BOWLERS.

    i wonder why?

    well aussies look to score 550 by tea tomorrow and then india must fight to prevent 4-0

  90. #90 by raju reporter on January 24, 2012 - 8:34 AM

    jk

    what to expect from bazaari aurats, gashtees, sluts!

    these women plus the media are corrupting the society.

    their adventures encourage other women to adopt the short route- get fame and money.

    its become difficult fror parents to control their children with all this media onsluaght.

    thats why I hate these bitches; they are as despicable and contemptuos as drug pedlars.

    I dont buy this theory to allow them to do whatever they want. as a parent, i understanmd how damaging they can be.

    everything that corrupts the youth be it drugs, alc0ohol, tobacco, sex needs to be curbed.

    ill tell you their is an aunty nabila who is a hair stylist.

    she was once giving an interview on primetime tv that marriage is immaterial! you should focus on yourself.

    now you tell me how can a woman survive without marriage. you understand what im implying; it aint about money.

    what happens girls idiolize such people and you have a fractured society.

    tghats why I agree TV is not good these days. even i dont have one now!

  91. #91 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 2:00 PM

    A whitewash looks just a formality now after first day

    India are now going to wait until Aussies declare at whenever they feel like it. After that they will have to match a mountain of runs, which looks impossible in current form.

    Future of Indian Test cricket is here, it looks dull. It is official, India are no longer a competing Test force, current generation has no interest in it.

    Here is an article quoting what Dravid had to say about this few years back.

    http://cricketnext.in.com/blogs/RMohan/2966/63104/how-good-is-the-new-generation.html

    A lot of the seniors have expressed this fear in some form or the other before. I once had the privilege four years ago of spending long hours in a car with Rahul Dravid who told me his frank assessment of the new generation. He could not fathom why they would not come out often enough to the nets even to bat when so many were willing to bowl at them.

    At the end of a busy session of delivering inspirational speeches at Chennai schools, Dravid, so typical of him, asked would I desist from writing all that he had said since he did not wish to hurt any cricketer. It was a confidence I had kept for years until now when the time has come to say that those who dedicated their lives to scoring runs in the Test match arena find the new generation strangely reluctant to work hard at their game skill sets.

    It is a very long day for those who wish to pursue excellence, more so in sport, even more so in cricket. But then the rewards come so thick and fast these days that the need to fully perspire is no more there. Why bother with bowling 20 overs a day over the long haul when a mere four will do to take home millions from the IPL?

    India is now an IPL playing nation, they are not interested in competing overseas, their young generation only care about home wins and quick and easy money from IPL.

  92. #92 by Sentinel Prime on January 24, 2012 - 2:08 PM

    Newguy

    Dravid is greatly admired by all people on this blog. You could have told us earlier that you have met him?

  93. #93 by Sentinel Prime on January 24, 2012 - 2:10 PM

    We are talking about empty stadiums in UAE. Clearly Pakistanis are losing interest in Test cricket.

    No wonder defensive approach to cricket is not criticised often. Pakistanis also want to see T20s- they may have a passion for ODI too, but the problem is that subcontinent as a whole does not care much about Tests now.

    That is why they are not producing quality players.

  94. #94 by Sentinel Prime on January 24, 2012 - 2:16 PM

    Talha ruled out of ongoing Test series against England due to back problem

    Abu Dhabi, Jan 24(ANI): Pakistan’s paceman Mohammad Talha has been ruled out of the ongoing Test series against England due to a back problem.

    Pakistan team manager Naved Cheema said Talha, who has been diagnosed with a problem in a spinal disc, needed ten to twelve days rest, and would return to Pakistan once his back pain subsided.

    Cheema added that the Pakistan team did not need a substitute, The Daily Times reports.

    Talha did not play in the first Test against England but claimed four wickets in the warm-up match against England before the beginning of the series.

    Talha has so far played one Test against Sri Lanka in Karachi in 2009.

  95. #95 by Sentinel Prime on January 24, 2012 - 2:19 PM

    Akram slams British press for questioning Ajmal’s action

    ADELAIDE: Pace-bowling legend Wasim Akram is exasperated with the way British press has been harping about the bowling action of Pakistan’s off-spinner Saeed Ajmal and termed as “stale” the pressure tactics of the home media.

    Ajmal took a 10-wicket haul in the Pakistan’s impressive 10-wicket win over world number one Test team England in the Dubai Test.

    “Instead of praising him (Saeed Ajmal) for he is someone special, instead of admitting their team didn’t do well and Pakistan played better cricket, they are after him,” said Akram who’s commentating on the final Test between India and Australia.

    “It’s not funny anymore, it’s boring, stale and old.”

    Former England players raised a question-mark about Ajmal’s bowling action after the stunning defeat and the British media hasn’t stopped carping on it since then.

    “Whenever they lose, they talk negative. It’s the English batsmen who played bad shots, sweeping across the line to off-spinner. It’s no rocket science that you can’t play across the line. But probably they don’t know. It’s the job of umpires and ICC–not British media.

    “The permissible limit is 15 degrees and he’s been tested and tried for bowling well below it. He’s been around for 7-8 years. Why suddenly pick on him?” said an agitated Akram.

    “I have been reading for the last 3-4 days in British media. We all know what goes through media usually goes through players. Ajmal doesn’t turn the ball. He’s just quicker. On a placid track, where there was no swing, no spin, no reverse swing, just lust green outfield, he got them playing across the line.”

    Akram sees a trend through all this noise. He believes England has a habit of picking holes through opposition whenever their team doesn’t do well.

    “The noise now is because it has happened against the mighty England, the number one Test team of the world. On the tour of 1992, we got them out in every game. Then they accused us of ball-tampering. Then I got a seven in the very next game. We then played county cricket and taught every bowler for 10 years how to reverse swing the ball.

    “Instead of saying their team didn’t do well and Pakistan played better cricket, they are targeting a special talent. Why it always happens against a sub-continent team.”

    Akram doesn’t feel it would affect Pakistan in the remaining two Tests and might just backfire on the England team.

    “I don’t think it would affect them. Indeed, it would create a positive impact on them. It would motivate them. Instead of being on the back-foot, it would help their cause.”

    Pakistan has shown an upward graph in recent times and has done particularly well under the leadership of Misbah-ul-Haq, winning seven of their last 13 Tests.

    “Misbah is doing a great job as a skipper. Pakistan’s confidence is sky high. It’s a good sign,” Akram said.

  96. #96 by Sentinel Prime on January 24, 2012 - 3:10 PM

    BCCI will prepare fair wickets: Srinivasan

    NEW DELHI: Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) president N Srinivasan has said that sporting wickets and not rank turners would be prepared for Tests at home.

    “Our aim is to give fair wickets and not one-sided ones,” Srinivasan said.

    The interview was conducted before India’s opening batsman Gautam Gambhir accused Australia of doctoring pitches to suit the fast bowlers and said India should prepare turners to ensure a level playing field.

    Srinivasan was confident that the team would bounce back in next month’s ODI tri-series in Australia also involving Sri Lanka.

  97. #97 by Sentinel Prime on January 24, 2012 - 3:21 PM

    RR

    Lol at “think about the kids” justification.

    The male kids, when they grow up, want to see Meera and Veena conduct “slut-like” behaviour.

    The problem is not with the “bitches and sluts” but those who create an economic demand for them.

    If you feel so strongly about this kind of society then you should only accept a society where women wear Burkhas, don’t interact with men, and men can only see the faces and bodies of their wives.

    If you want to live in today’s world, accept that there is no shortage of women who would be willing to show skin, have sexual relations etc for publicity and money.

    The only alternative to “bazaari women society” is a “Burkha society”.

    Pick which one you like. You can’t have a society where men and women interact with each other but there is no sexual activity whether that takes the form of watching a naked Veena Malik, or Reema or Meera offering sex for fame and money (if that is what they have done).

  98. #98 by Sentinel Prime on January 24, 2012 - 3:28 PM

    RR

    Mullah minded people don’t have TV’s.

    Are you a mullah?

    Why is marriage compulsory in a world where contraception is widely available?

    Of course, sex lives should be controlled, like every thing else.

  99. #99 by Sentinel Prime on January 24, 2012 - 3:52 PM

    Kallis more effective than Sachin, Ponting: Ganguly

    NDTV

    New Delhi: Sachin Tendulkar might be the highest run-getter in cricket but he certainly is not the first choice of Sourav Ganguly when it comes to picking the most effective player. Instead, South Africa’s Jacques Kallis walks away with the honour.

    Ganguly said so during the commentary of the fourth Test between India and Australia, when he was discussing the highest run-getters in Test cricket with his fellow commentator Ian Chappell .

    This after Ricky Ponting became the third cricketer to complete 13,000 Test runs. The other two players are India’s Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid. Kallis is the fourth highest scorer in Test cricket with 12260 runs.

    “Kallis is a great player. He has 12000 Test runs, 250 Test wickets, 10000 one-day runs, 200 one-day wickets to be the best of the lot,” Ganguly said.

    “I would put it this way, he is the most effective of the lot. His batting, his bowling and he’s still going on,” he added.

    When Chappell asked who would he pick first from the top four, Ganguly said: “Jacques Kallis straightaway then Tendulkar, then Dravid and then Ponting.”

    He also said Kallis has been so successful with the bat because he bats top of the order. “You cannot get to those many runs if you are batting at No. 5 or No. 6. May be at 5 but definitely not at 6. You have to bat at the top of the order. Because once you get set, you have wickets in hand to get a big score. When you bat at No. 6, you are batting with the tail.”

    Ganguly however said all these were class players. He also mentioned Tendulkar’s records will be hard to break.

  100. #100 by Sentinel Prime on January 24, 2012 - 3:53 PM

    Bangladesh cricket team to tour Pak in April: PCB Chairman

    ANI

    Lahore, Jan 24(ANI): Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairperson Chaudhry Zaka Ashraf has said that the Bangladesh government has allowed the national cricket team to visit Pakistan in April.

    The move comes after the Pakistan Cricket Board had informed ICC that it intends to host a Test series to revive international cricket in the country.

    The security situation in Pakistan would however be reviewed by the Bangladesh team before the tour, The News reports.

    International cricket teams have been reluctant to tour Pakistan since the 2009 attack on the Sri Lankan team in Lahore. (ANI)

  101. #101 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 4:33 PM

    So, I was right in predicting that Australia will score 330 runs IF Ponting and Clarke remains not out, they are 335/3. Actually they slowed down in the last 10-12 overs and very rightly so. One, the new ball was taken and secondly, it was the end of the day and they wanted to remain not out so that they can start fresh the following day.

    Clarke is in such a great form that in Sydney test he scored 329* and now again he is 140* when he came in to bat, Ricky Ponting had already scored 37 runs and had scored those 37 runs at a strike rate of 65 and kept his SR above that. But, when Clarke came in, he started scoring @ much faster rate than Ponting and his fifty and hundred both came in similar fashion i.e., two consecutive FOURS on both occasions.

    From here India cannot win this test match, ALL they can do is SAVE it that’s all and if they play with the intention of saving the test match through a draw, it will not only be very boring but, the possibility of their losing this match is also very high. Anyways, lets see. And, MONGA you please stop blaming the LUCK. I don’t understand why these Indian writers find excuses such as luck, pitch, conditions blah, blah and try to hide the dirt under the carpet.

    NewGuy, next time you meet Dravid, give him a salute from my side. IMO, he is not only a great player but a true gentleman and a very good ambassador of India. I have a lot of respect and liking for his game also, the way he addresses the media without any boasting and foul mouthing.

  102. #102 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 4:42 PM

    Raju

    I blame the media more than anything or anyone else because, the media calls themselves as professionals but, they have no morals and no ethics, they go beyond the limits and it is they who publicize and advertise these things and corrupt the mind of others. Once again, it is the naive and ignorant who are targeted because, most educated and strong minded people know what is fake, farcical and real. I don’t watch Indian or Pakistani movies and dramas not because of any vulgarity but, I find them extremely boring and I don’t have the time for it. I prefer to read the news or browse for info — i.e., whatever info that is needed.

    I don’t like any kinda extremism, I prefer things to be done moderately despite the fact that most people don’t agree with me that there is no middle path, you have to choose this or that, NO sir, I cannot choose this or that.

    Btw, the link on Meera made me laugh because of the way she said, whatever she said and nothing more than that. Also my observation about the kid she is marrying. 😀

  103. #103 by Raju reporter on January 24, 2012 - 6:30 PM

    jk

    you dont disagree that there is no vulgarity in pk or indian programmes, so obvioulsy you wont be comfortable with yuor kids watxching such programmes.

    see you are mature and you can handle any perverted company, but its responsibilty of parents to protect their children.

    after all why there is option of parental control in browsers and wiki was forced to delete expeltive content from certain websites bakaoz certain teachers objected as they felt it would have a negative effect on children.

    sorry, inspite of all this modernism talk even highly modern societies are not comfortable in certain issues. but since they are developed it is considered ok but when it is raised in oriental cultures it is considered extremism.

    even right now piracy laws are resulting in cyber wars as wiki blacked out its coverage for one day over tough internet regulations.so even the champ of democracry is extremist in some cases.

    and you agree media has no morals or ethics , so strong case for monitoring exists.

    well about meera you say MERI ITNI KOSHOSH…. so is it laughable in a positive vain?

    there was a blogger on legslip with whom one day I discussed about ” Edhi jhoolas”. he asked me about it and I told it is meant for dumping illicit children. you know what his reply was

    something to this effect

    ” yar , ye log Quran aur mazhab ko chodr ke kis tarf nikal gaye hain” ( archives can be checked for authenticity). so even he was lamenting at the falling ethical standards but…………

    I think that blogger has left legslip, but im not missing him mind you!

    so my dear, TV is toxic and whether you stay away from a snake for whatever reason, youll stay away from its venom!

    even my friend who is a tech junkie and so is his wife were not in favor of wifi connevtion bakaoz they wanted to monitor their children’s use.

    btw there are differences between east and west. inspite of all media surge, i dont think gay marriages will be discussed as an issue in pakistan. so nabila is an eastern case and contraception is meant for family planning, not for abolishment of marriage or encouragement of mun kaalaa!

  104. #104 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 10:59 PM

    Raju

    I never said that there is no uriyaniyat in bollywood movies, even where there is no uriyaniyat I still dislike those formation dances and cheap antics … that includes IPL cheer leaders too. What is happening in the West is affecting not only the desis living in the West but, also to their own. There is a culture transformation at a very rapid pace because of the media — that includes TV, internet especially chatting, facebook, emails etc.

    Earlier in our grandfathers days when someone used to return from Vilayat after studying and staying for over a decade, they used to find themselves out of place because they used to think they are way ahead of the desis back home. But, now when I go to Pakistan the kids over there know a lot more than I know in terms of movies, cellphones, computers etc., because it is very easy for them to access everything through the Internet and they also have access to academics and they know almost everything that a kid here knows. So, TV or no TV the information age has brought so many changes in the society that is beyond anyone’s control.

    It is like we used to say in the bank, in financial markets that the US dollars is no more in the control of the US government, it is the market forces that determines it course. A small increase or decrease in the interest rates does not make any impact on the dollar. Likewise, the access to Internet and cell phones has changed the culture in Pakistan. And, what the Indian satellite TV has done in 20 years the Indian army and politicians could not do that in the last 50 years. Where the army and politicians failed the media has won the war for them. They have sucked the young Pakistani generation into their culture, which actually is NOT their culture, because Hindu women originally were also very orthodox and used to cover their heads and their bodies with Sarees and Ghoonghat etc.

    I am not saying TV or Internet should be totally banned, IMO it is extremism. However, if you control and supervise the kids from watching all the TV programs on their own without supervision, especially during the impressionable age and watching everything and all the the things, all the time is wrong. When they grow up they know the difference between what is moral and what is immoral? And, at the same time on TV there are so many educational and sports channels plus general knowledge channels like history channel and National Geographic channel etc., are very informative and good not just for kids but, for adults too.

    I never said that there should be no parental control for TV and Internet, of course it should be and it is not just desis who do this, even the goras do it here. But, there are other culprits and they are in the schools. Not just peers and colleagues even the teachers tell the kids that they must think and act independently irrespective of what your parents think about morality and ethics. They say, you must act according to your feelings and desires irrespective of what your parents, relatives or friends think of you. However, apart from Muslims the more orthodox Jews, Christians esp. Catholics oppose this idea of peer pressure and teacher’s too liberal views about life in general, it is like brainwashing the kids. Those who oppose this idea are not in a majority. That is why you see the society is very open and they think it is their right, their freedom, liberty and what not to do whatever they want.

    I am not a Mullah, do I look like a Mullah from my picture? In fact the new generation of kids who are in the late teens and early twenties they consider me as a non-Muslim or a Kaafir for dressing up like the Westerners. Little do they know that there is no specific dress code for Muslims. Muslims are not identified because of their JHABRA UL KABRA AND THEIR BUSHY BUSH BEARDS. They are recognized by their manners, etiquette, behaviour, and their dealings with other people and they practice what they preach. Anyways, this is a long and never-ending sort of debate so lets discuss cricket!

  105. #105 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 11:04 PM

    So, who is going to endorse my views that Clarke is going to score another triple century here? 😀 I think Ponting will score a double for sure. Because, he is going very, very steady.

    Tonight (my time) Mishap’s XI is also going to play against the NO.1 test team in the world … people are anxiously waiting for it.

    In order to determine which country is No. 1, there must be test World Cup too just like ODI and T20 and that will be a fair method to assess the rankings.

  106. #106 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 - 11:06 PM

    Raju

    Btw, the fellow blogger has not run away he went for Umrah and shall be back soon. He sent me an email saying that his absence from the blog is no other reason than his busy and tight schedule because of Umrah and then to catch up with work@ his office.

  107. #107 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 11:31 PM

    JK,

    Well, going by how Indians are bowling both Clarke and Ponting has chance of a double if not triple hundred.

    As for match direction, had this India team any good, there is still chance, since Adelaide is great for batting 3 days and then it becomes difficult in last two days.

    See scored from this Test match India won in 2004: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64060.html

    India won after conceding 500 runs in first innings, Ponting scored a big double hundred then, but India matched the score with their own 500 with Dravid scoring a double and Laxman scoring a big hundred. Then Australia was bowled out cheaply with Agarkar of all bowlers picking 6 wickets, India chased to win with Dravid scoring another match winning 72 not out.

    But those days are gone. This is not Dravid and Laxman of old who could do such feats. Therefore I agree, it is very unlikely for India to win.

    There is also another Test that Australia won against England in 2006 in Adelaide that followed similar pattern, Australia conceded 500 runs then matched with 500 of their own, and then bowled England out cheaply, setting up some 160 to win. Here is the score for that Test: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/249223.html

    These feats are only performed by Teams having great desire and fight to win. They come from behind and win. This Indian team are full of chickens and the aged stars who cannot repeat their peak miracles.

  108. #108 by NewGuy on January 24, 2012 - 11:33 PM

    KS / JK,

    I don’t want to mislead you with that Dravid quote, it appeared I am saying that I have met Dravid, but I was linking an article written by a writer called R .Mohan. I extracted a few sentences from his article. This person has been writing about cricket since I was following it, some 25 years, he is saying what Dravid told him.

    I never met Dravid personally. Sorry to mislead you.

  109. #109 by NewGuy on January 25, 2012 - 2:03 AM

    Is this Indian team an international cricket team or some sort of club level team

    Clarke and Ponting has scored 380 runs now, both scored a double, there is no way they can get them out … ahahahha .. this must be some sort of joke.

    I don’t know how it is possible for India to be so bad, even Bangladesh or Zimbabwe would have done better. What is going on. Looks like they need to dissolve this team and take away their Test status.

    I know it sounds very extreme, but I don’t recall in my lifetime of watching Indian cricket them being so bad, and I am talking about 25 years that involved some really pathetic bowling, even they would have done better.

    Not just this Test, I am taking about two 300 runs partnerships in Sydney and now close to 400 runs here in Adelaide. I have never ever seen this, even against Bangladesh. Based on this, I dare say this team do not deserve Test status.

    I wonder what fans in India think about all this?

  110. #110 by NewGuy on January 25, 2012 - 2:11 AM

    Just heard that Imran Khan said on Twitter even he can score a 50 against this Indian team if he practices for 3 months at this age.

    I think Imran is being modest, he can score a hundred at least that too without any practice.

    Note that Imran did not insult Bangladesh, because even they are better than this Indian team.

    So, again it is time to ask, should Indian team be given Test status or take it away from them?

  111. #111 by Raju reporter on January 25, 2012 - 7:51 AM

    jk

    monitoring is not done 24 hrs; both of us understasnd that!

    dear monitoring gradually reduces with child’s age

    btw I didnt rasie the muulah thing, please address it to the one who asks personal questions!

    I never asked anything personal from you or others here even if one is herectic or whatever his beliefs.

    I dont think its appropriate to question about one’s domestic life whether he has tv or not, he lives in a cave or mansion etc.

    infact i am trying my utmost best not to delve into these insignificant debates about semantics or preferences but my stance is falling on deaf ears.

    yes, these are long futile, insignificant debates and I am agree- lets talk mishap!

    PS: the missing blogger is not muneer. I miss him specially his icons 😉

    yar umrah to ek haftey mein ho jata hae, tum ne last month yehi kaha tha wo umrey par hay. kahin Kaaba mein gosha nasheen to nahi hogaya.

  112. #112 by Raju reporter on January 25, 2012 - 8:02 AM

    dravid has done phd in getting bowled

    yes, india should play loi only

    all this talk about winning at home and losing overseas doesnt mean you play like this abroad.

  113. #113 by Raju on January 25, 2012 - 8:06 AM

    meanwhile pk 60/2

    monty playing instead of tremlett and e gets professor

    lests see how much pk score in first innings. i think theyll get 300 max.

    immi will score a double against india and javed uncle will notch a triple

  114. #114 by Raju reporter on January 25, 2012 - 9:34 AM

    117/4

    MiSHAP HITS 2 6s of monty.

    Hmm..
    Josh agaya!

  115. #115 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 25, 2012 - 10:10 AM

    Missy scored 16 of 37 balls at the moment, if you minus those 2 sixes, remaining runs are only 4 in 35 balls. Asad Shafiq too did the same 5 runs in 30 balls. All four wickets taken so far are through clean bowled, two by The Broad and two by the spinners.

    BTW this is the real Pakistani batting line up, if they score 300 — which is a wishful thinking —, it will be a big achievement. In this team there is no dependable batsman or, even a bowler. Only Ajmal has shown some magic in the first test, lets see if it continues in the 2nd and 3rd.

    Right now over kay 2 run, over kay 3 run beech may ek maiden chal reha hai jaisay koi maal gaari jaa rehi hai aur

    pichlay dubbay may tuk tuk tuk tuk ho rehi hai rail may!

  116. #116 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 25, 2012 - 10:18 AM

    NewGuy

    This is Indian “fishful sinking” to hope that India can score 800 and get Australia under 200 on the last day. If wishes were horses everyone would have been riding on them. This match is beyond India’s reach to win. ALL they can hope is play, play and play for a draw that is all. With Sehwag and the Wall gone, it is not likely to happen, the max India can score — if tendulkar scores 100 — is to reach somewhere near 400 and still get a follow-on and then they may have to regroup in the 2nd innings and fight again for a draw. Other than that

    koi surat nazar nahee aati,
    koi tadbeer nazar nahee aati,
    pehlay aati thi Indian team pay hassi,
    ab kisi baat pay nahee aati.

  117. #117 by Raju reporter on January 25, 2012 - 12:01 PM

    good comeback by pk

    asad shafiq screwed it by having a across the line heave

    anyway, match still in balance

  118. #118 by Raju reporter on January 25, 2012 - 12:02 PM

    the only consolation in adelaide for india will be tenduklar’s 100

    but iam afraid that the damage is so intense it wont heal the wounds.

  119. #119 by Raju reporter on January 25, 2012 - 12:16 PM

    england have dropped 3 catches.

    they might regret it in the end! 😛

  120. #120 by Raju reporter on January 25, 2012 - 12:46 PM

    acc to crocinfo akmal wasnt out

    but it wasnt reffered, perhaps mishaps wanted to save one for himself 😉

    itll be 93 overs today due to good ovr rate

    england will feel reasonably happy but the dropped cactches will hurt them!

  121. #121 by NewGuy on January 25, 2012 - 1:21 PM

    I am sure you will agree this is a very selfish innings from Misbah. How dare he score only 83 runs and remain not out in an innings of 250 odd with 7 gone. Why can’t he score a triple hundred like Clarke. That must be the gold standard. Misbah too selfish, yes.

  122. #122 by NewGuy on January 25, 2012 - 1:27 PM

    JK,

    I said when I posted the scored showing in Adelaide it is possible to win after conceding 500 runs that this Indian team will not do this. But it can be done by teams that fight hard and have a desire. I am not going to talk further on Indian team, even their own players, selectors, and administrators are not accepting even after all this that there are serious problems. Such a team do not deserve any time.

    England on the other hand after one defeat were admitting they played so poorly, and self admonishing. Ditto Australia after their losses. Indians on the other hand is like a person who has gone blind on both eyes, but still refusing to admit they cannot see. They keep saying what problem I don’t see any problem, you have a problem in your mind. This is the pathetic attitude that sets them different from teams that wants to win and remain on top.

  123. #123 by NewGuy on January 25, 2012 - 2:44 PM

    Writers like this guy Monga on Cricinfo must be so desperate to write something. This guy is the worst that I have ever read on Cricinfo, he keeps spouting one non sense after another.

    Who else will go on an interview Ishant Sharma, the guy who gave 100 runs and don’t have a single wicket. Says his Ankle is perfect and Monga has to write about it.

    What a pair of losers.

  124. #124 by NewGuy on January 25, 2012 - 2:51 PM

    One hundred by Tendulkar no longer enough in Adelaide, he needs to score a double or a triple hundred and take India to match Australia’s score of 600. Eve if he gets a regular 100 and India do not get to 500+ then there is no achievement.

    Tendulkar had the opportunity to score that hundred in WC, he had four games after the 99th against SA. He played WI, Aus, Pak, and SL. Three of them KO games.

    He should have retired at the end of WC, when he was carried around the field by younger generation of players. That should have been it, 100 hundreds or not.

    Instead, he chose to stay on, what exactly has Tendulkar achieved for the Team and for himself, this is the question that must be in his mind. He is now thinking how to salvage the situation and get out of it. May be not, he may simply wants to play on, who knows.

    But he missed the trick. Now, he can scored a double or triple in Adelaide, if he wants to restore what he lost. Nothing short is good enough.

  125. #125 by Raju reporter on January 25, 2012 - 3:40 PM

    an inriguing days play awaits tomorrow

    lets see how much pk muster and how england play ajmal

  126. #126 by NewGuy on January 25, 2012 - 4:30 PM

    So … no comment on yet another rock solid performance from Misbah?

    If he had failed at that time England would have been on top, Misbah counter attacked first then provided stability to take Pakistan to a respected total. Again, showing the way from the front. Every match, I am more and more impressed with Misbah. I am sure he will fail at some point or other, as any player or captain will do, that is no reason to ridicule him though. He has already done so much to take Pakistan forward. Not bad for a 37 year old budha who was supposed to be finished.

  127. #127 by Raju reporter on January 26, 2012 - 2:25 AM

    122/5 india and this was supposed to be a batting track

    mishap’s scoring 83 thanks to a dropped catch

    so who’s better? Mishap or fab4!

    Fab4 apart from dravid in england failed in 15 innings generaly speaking.

    Mishaps has played well on seaming tracks??

  128. #128 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 2:46 AM

    Tendulkar should be happy that he scored a QUARTER CENTURY in Adelaide. What a shame that he is in the team only because of his past glory. Its about time that Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman should hang up their boots forever. Dhoni should announce his test retirement. If not now, when are they going to do?

    I agree with NG that Tendulkar should have announced his retirement after the WC that way he would have been more respected because then, he would not have been a part of the England and Australia tour. People would have talked that HAD Tendulkar been in the team, this may not have happened. But, now he is responsible for his own disgrace! Indians love to do this with their celebrities remember Kapil Dev was simply included in the team to break Sir Richard Hadlee’s record and in some matches he went wicket-less and in some he got only one wicket in 2 innings.

    Someone said today when Tendulkar was out on 25, he will score that hundred for sure, if not today — some other day, but he will. So, another person replied, oh yeah, may be a few years down the road when Zimbabwe or Bangladesh will come to India and play a match at Motera, Vishakapatnam or Indore he may score on that batting paradise.

  129. #129 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 2:52 AM

    With Laxman also gone, India are 125/5 the Adelaide stadium must look like the Dubai stadium — practically empty — but the Aussies are still there to see the demise of India and a 4-0 whitewash.

    Player of the series will be MJ Clarke, what a batting performance, NewGuy if Misbah can lead like Clarke, I will write a new thread in his honour. But, not at this strike rate which is so pathetic. PK scored 605-70 runs less than Australia and ALL this because of this “GYPROCK” solid innings by Misbah. I can never praise this kinda cricket which Misbah is playing, I don’t give a tosh if England loses 3-0 here, in my books the credit will never go to Misbah.

  130. #130 by NewGuy on January 26, 2012 - 3:00 AM

    Javed,

    Tendulkar should have retired after WC, yes, but he should retire at least NOW. I do not care about this hundred that is supposedly going to bring glory to Indians.

    What glory when your team is being decimated, chopped, and run to the ground, and made into pulp. If he score a hundred it is now meaningless, who cares that an Indian called Tendulkar scored 100 international hundreds, when his team record abroad is in shambles. It is not like Lance Armstrong breaking Tour De France record, or Michael Phelps holding Olympic swim record, or Usain Bolt breaking Olympic sprint record. These individual competitions and individual records matter. An Indian holding most runs and hundreds have no meaning if Team record is poor.

    What is more hilarious, or sad, based on how one looks at is that like an Ostrich who buries its head in sand, this Team, selectors, and board, keeps saying there is nothing wrong, one team loses and one team wins. Yeah, but not when you are getting beaten to pulp 8-0.

    Ijaz Butt is looking like a genius in front of these clowns. I mean, how are people like Tendulkar, Dravid, and Laxman agreeing to go through all this. They should say enough is enough, I am done.

    Yeah, I recall Kapil Dev’s last days, but he was a good servant of Indian cricket, someone who brought dignity through performance outside India, by winning World Cup, and by winning a Test series in England for a 2-0 margin for first and last time. So I don’t want to bad mouth him for what he did towards end of his career.

    This Ostrich mentality, or shall we call it Ijaz Butt mentality, is very visible when they do not make a single change to the team over 8-0 defeats. Look at them keep on playing and losing and still pretending every thing is going to be OK next match.

    I am not following this game at all, except checking score casually. They are going to lose by an innings. These guys can’t even hold the bat properly now.

    Not only should SRT, Dravid, and Laxman retire NOW, also Sehwag and Gambhir and Dhoni also should take long breaks and come back only if proven to be better players.

    I think everyone lost interest. Indian team is now the laughing stock of Cricket world, but like Ijaz Butt when he was in that role not long ago, Indians keep pretending nothing is happening.

  131. #131 by NewGuy on January 26, 2012 - 3:02 AM

    JK,

    Misbah is not playing club level team like India, give him chance against India and he will also score big hundreds.

    I like Clarke captaincy so far, but, I have to wait and see until he plays against better and proper teams.

  132. #132 by NewGuy on January 26, 2012 - 3:16 AM

    More than half of Indian team should retire or take long breaks from the game, the time is NOW, after this Test, not one day more. Names include, SRT, Dravid, Laxman, Dhoni, Sehwag, Gambhir, and Ishant. These people are negative forces and do not deserve place in team. Fire them and build a new Team.

    But, I forgot, IPL 5 is coming, and soon Auctions will be coming up with millions of dollars for these pathetic softies, take for instance $5 million man Gambhir, he only wants to play in his back yard. IPL gives him many millions, he doesn’t like Siddle bowling fast at him, so he want to take his bat and go home.

    Someone said long time back, IPL will destroy Indian cricket, it has.

    Ironically it was Misbah who did this, rewind back to 2007 T20 WC final, IPL was born after Indian won that tournament, T20 was not popular before then. When Indian won suddenly it became popular and Lalit Modi thought of cashing in. If Misbah did not miscue that shot and Pakistan won that final, would it have happened. So, Misbah master minded this down fall.

    OK, this is all a joke, except for IPL ruining Indian cricket. It’s the money part that is ruining players.

  133. #133 by NewGuy on January 26, 2012 - 3:28 AM

    I have been browsing up some Indian web sites and chat forums, there is lot of blame going on Laxman, Sehwag, Dravid, and Gambhir, with Laxman getting most of it and calls for axing and retirement.

    But … not a single word on SRT. I don’t get it why Indians are so afraid to admit SRT has been a failure for the last one year or so, he has underachieved and is a now a burden, yet, no one dares admit.

    It is like admitting they are wrong about themselves, I guess SRT is one last thing Indians are holding so precious, like if their trust on him breaks they have to admit the naked truth.

    Of course everyone else knows it already. They have to look at truth and admit. SRT has been a big failure in big moments, all through his career, and this past three series he failed to deliver, along with others.

    I would like to see some newspaper or Indian blog having b**ls to call for axing of SRT.

  134. #134 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 3:29 AM

    NewGuy

    Misbah has so far scored 3 test centuries out of which 2 are against India and each took over 6 and a half hours, meaning he played for almost one and a half days! Even his first test innings was supposedly similar to what he is today. I don’t remember the result of those 2 matches against India, may be someone may be knowing and I hope they write whether PK won those matches or they were lost or drawn? But, all I do remember that it was a painfully pathetic performance which even someone pay me to watch, I won’t do that.

  135. #135 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 3:33 AM

    NewGuy

    One of the reasons I don’t like Tendulkar is what you have just written in your comment that you don’t understand why people are so afraid to criticize Tendulkar? It is the deity status they have given him that pisses me off, they don’t treat him like a player based on his performance but, they worship him only based on his achievements. And, what good are those achievements when his team is losing and he is scoring and making records. Now, he is not even doing that, he is stuck in accomplishing that so called 100th 100 which is nothing, just 3 figures and nothing more.

  136. #136 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 3:36 AM

    So far Kohli is standing tall in front of the Aussies attack and once again he has scored another 50, but what he is doing is actually prolonging the death of the innings. This match is gone, India cannot avoid follow-on even if they do, the defeat is inevitable.

  137. #137 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 3:46 AM

    Wishful thinking by Indians: This kinda thinking has sunk the Indian cricket team to the bottom of the sea @ test level. Read this comment of an Indian guy on cricinfo. Just look at the total score and individual scores and his daydreaming:

    Sandeep: “A century in this match for Virat Kohli would send Laxman packing. On the other hand, a century here for Saha would remind Dhoni that he cannot stay in the test team purely based on his leadership.”
    End of over 66 (2 runs) India 171/5
    V Kohli 56* (112b 5×4)
    WP Saha 17* (52b 1×4)

  138. #138 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 3:47 AM

    Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn
    bye

  139. #139 by NewGuy on January 26, 2012 - 4:07 AM

    JK,

    Yeah, I too have intense dislike for over adulation on Tendulkar. I don’t know if you recall me saying this before, but in the early 90’s I had a lot of expectation from Tendulkar, when he first burst on to the scene, that he will win matches like Viv Richards did with his batting. But, time and again, I watched him failing to make that happen, he did of course play some breath taking shots, off very good bowlers, like Khansahab says, but that was just not enough for me. So, I stopped following Tendulkar and Indian cricket for a long time, since they were performing poorly. I only got drawn back into it around 2007 when the World Cup came to Caribbean and I was touring one of the Islands at that time. I saw some games on TV and talked to local people, I didn’t know then Malcolm Marshal one of my favorite bowlers has passed away, but one of the locals told me, I knew the house where he lived on the Island long while back, but did not follow Cricket for some time. Anyhow, that was when I started following again. So, I missed a lot of hype around Tendulkar, then I started looking at him again with different set of eyes. In other words, I had already forgiven him for not living up to my expectations and started looking at him as another batsmen. He was performing for those past few years. But he isn’t performing now, and I really think he has over stayed and the hype over him has gone too far.

  140. #140 by NewGuy on January 26, 2012 - 4:13 AM

    Kohli may not score a hundred, but he is showing the fight that oldies did not show, he is on 78 now, so good for him to show future is not all bleak. Also Saha has shown fight, if it was Dhoni he would have played some crazy shot and got out by now. India will lose for sure, but if Kohli and Saha put up decent fight, that should show the non performing stalwarts in their true colors.

  141. #141 by NewGuy on January 26, 2012 - 4:19 AM

    JK,

    The reason why we see such stupid comments from people is because a lot of sub continental Cricket followers do not understand the game all that well. I always felt that most of Indian supporters only understood SIXES and FOURS and nothing else. It is all too much for them to understand the nuances. In this regard English, Australian, New Zealand, South African, and even West Indian supporters understand the sport better. I don’t about Pakistan supporters are as dumb as Indian supporters, but I am sure there are common traits. Same for Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.

  142. #142 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 8:43 AM

    Kohli did score a century contrary to what we all believe, between him and Saha there was some fight, some resistance and I agree that if Dhoni was there, he would have been out earlier.

    For some reason Clarke & Co., decided not to impose follow-on and that went India’s favour to some extent. Shaun Marsh like said is Laxmanized and he is seldom scoring yet he is selected in the team is it because of Big Daddy in the background? I don’t think that kinda culture prevails in Australia but, I couldn’t get the notion of not dropping him. If Watson comes, he goes. But, there has been real injustice in case of Rohit Sharma, he too could have proved himself like Kohli, if given a chance.

  143. #143 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 8:59 AM

    Pakistan started the day terribly and it did not take England much time to wrap up and now they seems to be set @ 68/1.

    This is something WEIRD and it happened about 3 1/2 hours ago before the game started. I was attending a funeral prayer as someone we know his brother died. After the prayers at a gathering in one corner, one guy who hardly knows anything about cricket, came to that group of people — I was one of them and, he said: Pakistan got all out on same score and the three all players got out on zero. We all laughed because, the match was supposed to start 3 1/2 hours later! He kept saying, NO my friend just told me on phone that, they are all out. I said, how is it possible? The match hasn’t started yet. He kept repeating the same thing.

    Btw, he is the same guy who was asking me the other day after the 1st test: “I don’t understand why Pakistan scored only 15 runs and stopped playing?” I replied because, “Pakistan had won the match, that’s why?” Then, he literally screamed: “There were 2 more days of play left.” I laughed and I said, “so bloody what? The match is over, Pakistan won.” He was so surprised and shocked and asked me, “OK then, what are they going to do?” I asked, “WHAT?” He said, “Are they going to refund for the 2 days i.e., for those who bought a 5 days ticket?” I was ROTFLOLING and I told others and they were laughing too.

    What I mean to say is, this guy has no knowledge of cricket, the irony is, he is from Pakistan but, he came to Canada when he was only 6~7 years old and perhaps never followed the game and now watching it on TV only as a social obligation i.e., to keep up with the joneses. So, how come he knew that ALL three scored ZERO, which is what happened 3 1/2 hours later?

  144. #144 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 9:03 AM

    England openers (barring Strauss) have handled Ajmal very well in his first spell of 6 overs and, it gives the impression that they have overcome the fear of his bowling but, it is still too early to say because the ball is still new and may not be turning right now and peut-etre it may after it is 40 overs old.

  145. #145 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 9:32 AM

    Raju

    There is something that I would like to clarify especially after reading a news item today on the latest issue — which is not directly related to our vocabulary debate that we were having for the past few weeks on “Ye Jeena bhee kya Jeena?” GT kaho ya RDi kaho aur kion na kaho aur kahan mat kaho. But it is about the laws in general that are affecting the usage of words.

    I don’t think KS was more against on the usage of the “S” word, but he was more concerned about the forum and that is because, these days more and more new laws are being implemented. We all know that you can use F word without any hesitation but, we cannot use the N word.

  146. #146 by Raju reporter on January 26, 2012 - 11:16 AM

    hahaha

    vocab debate 😆

    very well said

    yaar tum ye batao ab is umr mein vocab debate ki koi tuk banti hae. mein ne qibla se kaha khushgawar baat karen ,baarish ho rahi hae magr wo alfaaz ki taaane baane le key baith gaey. apney pangey itney hain, ek fuzul ka panga wo bhi chalu aurtoon par- amaan chodro yaar!

    dear i mentioned before and i repeat if you find something objectionable, modify it. its a practice on all blogs and i wont mind. like yhou guys felt cricinfoi was harsh in moderation, so you left it.

    we are matrure adults man, and for my money i believe in light hearted exchanges which yield a rtelaxing effect. engaging in trifles and then feeling upset is not something i like. every body has his own views and it will be till mankind exists. if all humans agree on everything, world wont last for one day.

    ill check the link later but i would say lets move FORWARD. why spoil your mood over these lecherous women and stupid celebrities!

  147. #147 by Raju reporter on January 26, 2012 - 11:22 AM

    BTW cap cool ka pagal pana dekha

    2 review wasted- virtually wasted!

    welcome to test cricket coool!

    beating sl or wi is a different propisition. playing against top teams is totally different

    specially palying in their backyard is not a joke. imagine what would happen if cool 11 palys 8 consecutine tests in uk and oz.

    virtuall mauling!

    people feel we are biased or delusional to crioticize cool. they dont understand our criticsm is based on reasons which are purely criceting rather than prejudice or favoritism.

  148. #148 by Raju reporter on January 26, 2012 - 11:48 AM

    so sardardkiller got a quarter today

    wo senkdra jo mujh se rooth gaya

    ab uska haal bataye kya

    england, australia nahi

    ab kenya mein jaakey banaey kya

    see how sha palyed today. it makes sense to induct youth as ultimately india will find some worthy players. this is now becoming Minnow Thrashing

  149. #149 by Raju reporter on January 26, 2012 - 11:49 AM

    trott gone

    pk must now feel they have a chance to make inrooads into engliand batting

    but the wasted reviews may hurt

  150. #150 by NewGuy on January 26, 2012 - 1:39 PM

    JK,

    Clarke did the right thing not to enforce follow-on, I was thinking how in the world they are going to continue bowling back to back in those conditions. It was very hot, dry, and the pitch was placid. Of course Indian’s top five now do not know how to hold a bat, for that reason they fell apart of a perfect flat track, but that doesn’t mean Clarke wants to kill his bowlers. He is showing good sense as captain. But, as I said, I really have to see him tested like that happened against SA and NZ. Indians are no good match for anyone, so long as this top five stays with the team. Kohli did well, but the Indian media desperate for something to write home about will go hyper over him, and rest assured he will be destroyed like all Indian players. I hope no one ever compare Kohli as future Tendulkar, Laxman, or Dravid, and destroy him. Play for team and score for team, that should be the aim, hundreds matter, when they help team and also to boost a batsman’s confidence, but hundreds for record keeping do not matter.

  151. #151 by NewGuy on January 26, 2012 - 1:42 PM

    JK,

    When I said about Misbah will score against this Indian team, I was putting emphasis on THIS team, in their current mental state and form. Surely, Indian bowlers have conceded a lot of runs in the past too, but I can’t recall three 300 plus partnerships in a single series ever, like happened here. So, Misbah bats against India now he will get good runs.

    As for his past, he scored couple of hundreds against India I think in 2007 tour? But, Paksitan lost that series 1-0. India was a better fighting team then. Now, everyone is a superstar.

  152. #152 by NewGuy on January 26, 2012 - 1:49 PM

    Pak-Eng match even on Day 2. England did better. Cook played anchor like I was mentioned earlier that he is capable of. However, if Pakistan can pick up quick wickets in the morning they will get the advantage back. Bell is still there and with Prior in good form, they could put together some runs. If England gets to 100 runs lead, it will put lot of pressure on Pakistan.

  153. #153 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 3:32 PM

    NG

    England are only 50 runs behind with 5 wickets in hand, it seems like Pietersen and Morgan still have demons in their mind against the bowling of Ajmal, Bell too is vulnerable against Ajmal’s spin. So I count only on Prior and The Broad to resist, delay and score against PK. One hundred lead is too much even 70 runs lead will do the trick, because PK will lose at least 3 wickets to level the scores.

    Are you talking about this “team”? The one that Afridi built from the ruins? 😀

  154. #154 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 3:34 PM

    Raju

    Vo link khol ker save ker lo bakaoz mai blog say ussay phurrr kernay vala hoon. Its something worth knowing kay duniya kahan jaa rehi hai. Besides, its not that long a read. You may even get a detailed info on that subject from Wikipedia.

  155. #155 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 3:39 PM

    NG

    I see your point on why Clarke did not impose the follow-on? The weather factor slipped my mind, yes indeed 37C is hot, we are experiencing the minus factor here. I think their bowlers would have definitely exhausted taking another 10 wickets on the trot.
    LOL@ Monga interviewing Ishant Sharma. I also agree that they will write so much about Kohli after his hundred that he will rethink about it later when the tour is over that, he is “The” best batsman of the tour from the depleted home team. In today’s age and time media is the biggest culprit. We should think of creating “Anti-Media.” Just like Anti-Pasta 😀

  156. #156 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 3:42 PM

    LOL

    Raju

    Kenya may jaa kay nahee, Kenya ko bulakay kaho
    Bakaoz, at home even they play very well, remember in one of the WC’s they reached semifinals?

  157. #157 by raju reporter on January 26, 2012 - 8:03 PM

    jk

    is linjk mein kya hae

    mere to ouper sey guzar gaya

  158. #158 by raju reporter on January 26, 2012 - 8:07 PM

  159. #159 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 26, 2012 - 10:17 PM

    Raju

    The link is about the bill that has been passed recently and it says that if you even deny that the genocide did not happen, then under the new law you may face criminal charges in countries where they have their approach or reach to get you. Obviously PK is not under their domain but, wherever it is applicable it shall be implemented. It is just like the holocaust that you cannot deny it if you do you face criminal charges. Also, there are restrictions on usage of words like N word etc., which are considered as a racial abuse or racial slur whereas, F word is openly used and no one objects to it but, you cannot use it in PK where people can end up in fist fights.

  160. #160 by Raju reporter on January 27, 2012 - 2:30 AM

    Im aware of the F AEND N thing buti fail to see any relevance. See s word is openly used and is no big deal. Holocaust is something different and even fb doesnt allow it.

    O yar u google lindsay lohan the slut and see what happens. There r tons of blogs.

    A friend of mine pasted anti israel stuff on his fb page and got deactivated.

    But this s thing is no big deal. Ab is qissey pe mitti dalo mian.

  161. #161 by Raju reporter on January 27, 2012 - 2:35 AM

    F word in pk??

    Yar come on! Tum ne tazeen ka blog nahi padhra. F or S KOi issue nahi.

    Ek journalist/blogger hae farrukh pitfai. Uskey blog par open maa bhen ki galiyan di jati haen,wo bohot tolerant hae magr public nahi chodrti.

    Pk ke blog bohot gandey hain.

  162. #162 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 27, 2012 - 2:36 AM

    At lunch, Australia are 154/5 with a lead of 486 runs. IMO, they must declare because, NO team has ever scored 486 runs in the 4th innings (teams — including India — have won chasing 400 plus runs but, not 486) especially this Indian team has no guts to chase that daunting total in 5 sessions or 150 overs. Technically it is possible but, practically impossible for India. The Australian bowlers will have a fair chance of getting the Indian team out, unless they are scared and want to play for an hour or so to take the lead to 550 which would be unnecessary.

    NG, What sayeth you?

  163. #163 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 27, 2012 - 2:44 AM

    Reporter Raju

    The sensationalism has faded, Gillani seems to be very relaxed in Davos and Zardari too …. seems like they have forged a deal with the opponents and neither Kiyani nor Chaudhry are talking anything. Munshi PremChand Ijaz is not likely to come some people say he too has cut a deal and will stay put. Now, SMQ of PTI is saying the govt will dissolve in 2 months? The Sialkotan is demanding ban on the usage of certain words 😀 Read it
    http://www.dawn.com/2012/01/26/na-committee-recommends-ban-on-%E2%80%9Canti-pakistan%E2%80%9D-words.html

  164. #164 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 27, 2012 - 2:48 AM

    NO, they have not yet declared, they are back after lunch and playing, seems like Haddin got a licence to play shots of his choice and smacking Ashwin for fours.

    I wonder why they did not declare? India is a lost and demoralized team, can they score 487 runs in 4th innings and win? No way Jose. This is something beyond my comprehension unless, the Aussies bowlers have asked Clarke to wait till the temp. cools off a little bit and then go for the kill.

  165. #165 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 27, 2012 - 2:50 AM

    Raju #161

    I am not talking about F word on blogs, talking about its usage in public whereas, here even the girls say that all the time and you can even say that to a policeman and he can’t do anything, even if you show your middle finger to him but, no racial abuse, for that you get arrested.

  166. #166 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 27, 2012 - 2:56 AM

    TARGET 500

    Here comes the declaration of dependence on Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman to save the match? 😀

    A formality that is just going to be completed like rituals, hence I am not interested in sitting and watching the ordeal, I better sleep and check the scores tomorrow. It will be like 2 stones with one bird — Pakistan’s hopes on Ajmal — and Misbah’s painful and pathetic approach might make this match “interesting” until then Shab-bekhair.

  167. #167 by NewGuy on January 27, 2012 - 3:02 AM

    Javed Khan,

    What are you saying, India will surely win this match by chasing 500 runs. How could you underestimate the team of big guns Sehwag, Dtendulkar, Dravid, Laxman. These four have combined together scored multiple triple hundreds, doubles, several single hundreds, for a total of over 50,000 runs and one thousand centuries.

    How can we just write off this maharathis .. surely they are capable of chasing 500, here they come …. 🙂

    I am waiting with baited breath to watch history unfolding.

  168. #168 by NewGuy on January 27, 2012 - 4:08 AM

    Here is one comment from an Indian:

    rajesh: “Expecting a captains knock from Sehwag. Like the one came from him in a chase against Deccan Chargers in last years IPL.”

    Need to say anything more about India’s interest in Test cricket?

  169. #169 by NewGuy on January 27, 2012 - 4:10 AM

    Sehwag is on 51, hitting only FOURS, only 250 runs to go for Sehwag and only 437 runs for India.

    Can they finish this today?……. I guess they can, they meaning Australia 🙂

  170. #170 by Raju reporter on January 27, 2012 - 8:11 AM

    jk

    F for FUN; lets have some

    england 63 ahead with 2 wkts left.

    broad making jeena haram with 50.

    i told you he’ll be a pain in the ijaaz.

    looks likely that england will muster a lead of aroiund 100.

    thatll be more than enough for cool to go into deraaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwww mode 😉

  171. #171 by Raju reporter on January 27, 2012 - 8:14 AM

    so dravid finally caught

    india 6 down for 160

    tendulkar missing senkdra again

    so kohli becomes best indian batsman from the minnows, bypassing fab oop FAD 4

  172. #172 by NewGuy on January 27, 2012 - 2:09 PM

    Tendulkar getting what he deserves, so do his blind fans. He has not contributed anything by delaying his retirement. He has been the untouchable in Indian cricket, for no apparent reason, and he has exploited it very well to his advantage. Now, he will play on in the ODI series, to what avail? There are powers like Thackarey, Ambani, and Pawar to support him. Even people like Bachan, and Shah Rukh blow the bandwagon because they know which side of bread is buttered. In my view, Tendulkar is a nothing player now, he should have retired after WC, and he should retire right now. But he won’t. So long as there are people to support him, why should he, just like any other opportunist. That is what he really is now. Indian cricket is still struck in old ways, defensive mind set and defeatist attitude. I guess nothing really changed.

  173. #173 by Raju reporter on January 27, 2012 - 5:14 PM

    England have the edge and pk must give them 150+ to have some chance.

    Imdia is 4-0 and it seems people are saying now what i said before: FAD 4 MUST GO

    When i was saying this,people thought i had some grudge or pshycological projlem against tendulkar.

    NO,its all about belief in youth and freshness. Anyway,good to see the blind love is now eroding- PERHAPS!

  174. #174 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 27, 2012 - 5:16 PM

    NewGuy you say Tendulkar is a nothing player now, so is Misbah and he should have also retired after the WC especially after dropping the first catch tendulkar offered him and there was no remorse, no grief on Misbah’s face then YK and Akku Brothers also dropped and there was again no remorse, it appeared like it was an orchestrated move, a deliberate attempt to drop his catches so that India can win otherwise, it was too big an honour for Afridi to win the WC with that kinda langree, loolee team.

    Now, The Broad has punished them and this will be the Antim Kirya Karam of Misbah

  175. #175 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 2:23 AM

    Anothr whitewash

    no cumment!

    Hmm…

    Writing was on the white wall 😀

    india world champs of white painting!

  176. #176 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 2:26 AM

    Jk

    kirya karm nahi hoga

    india aur pk ke criktr dheet hain

    jab tak zaleel karke dhakey dey kar na nikala jae ye nahi sudhrey gain.

  177. #177 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 2:28 AM

    Well no comment about great ausie performaoce

    its all about pathetic performance of india

    i think ausies deserve lot of credit for splendid performance.

  178. #178 by NewGuy on January 28, 2012 - 5:05 AM

    Tomorrow is crucial day for Pakistan-England Test match. England gained the initiative with 70 runs lead in 1st innings. As I was saying a 100 run lead would be huge, they got 70 which is still very good, and with all those wickets, especially Misbah not there any more to block, means England has the advantage. The two youngsters played well, but they have to carry on, even then 150 to 200 will not be enough as England has lower order that does not give up.

    I think this England team is pretty strong, they have come back mentally strong. The Broad has again provided crucial rescue. This is the strength of England team, they have Prior, Broad, Bresnan (who is not playing this series), who can add runs, even Swann and Anderson can lash a few runs.

    Anyway, if Pakistan can put up about 200 then I am not sure how England will play against spin on 4th innings.

    Looking at how Monty is spinning the ball, Ajmal, Rehman, and Hafeez could get plenty of turn. Everything depends on how much runs PK can put on board. I say 200 to 250 will be tough to chase. Question is can Pakistan put together that much?

  179. #179 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 9:47 AM

    stubborness of indian team particularly sehwag has reached STINKING PROPOTIONS!

    still harping about home serieses

    no wonder no one wants to retire, chairman board, spokesman , capt all think pitches were doctored and it was a conspiracy

    shammmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-india-2011/content/current/story/551325.html

  180. #180 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 9:49 AM

    no one will RETIRE!

    to hell with whoitewashes

    persistence rather stubborness is the key as OLD IS GOLD!

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-india-2011/content/current/story/551320.html

  181. #181 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 9:50 AM

    england need 145. 12/0

    hmm……!

  182. #182 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 9:52 AM

    if england lose this, then will have only themselves to blame!

    couildnt have been more easier

  183. #183 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 10:26 AM

    NewGuy

    Pls. read my comment no. 153, I wrote “One hundred lead is too much even 70 runs lead will do the trick, because PK will lose at least 3 wickets to level the scores.” And, that is exactly what happened. This team can hardly make 350 runs in any in any innings, in match, against any team. So, what do you expect from them? Only the bowlers to take wickets and win for them?

    Now, they are facing defeat because, the batsmen failed once again and Younus Khan should get a “Chamaat” on his face and should be asked to. He got bowled in both innings and he hasn’t scored much in any match, at least I don’t recall any significant contribution from him in the past few matches.

  184. #184 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 10:30 AM

    What can one write about India’s defeat? Let the Indian high profile writers do the writing, they are the ones who spoiled them and let them criticize i.e., if they think it was a poor and pathetic performance in England and now in Australia where they have lost four zero, four zero, equals eight zero….. words appear bigger than numbers right? 😀

    Raju

    It is too little – or, too small a total for Pakistan to defend, unless spinners are absolutely unplayable and luck favours Missybaba but, it is not likely to happen, initial couple of wickets is no guarantee to victory. This match is a lost case for Pakistan. Miracles do not happen very often. Agar hotay tou Vo saikda jo unn say rooth gayaa…. vo nahee hota!

  185. #185 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 10:38 AM

    “I clarify that there is no need for retirement from anybody in this team. And they will take their call when they need it and when they think that their time is up.” SEHWAG ….. he can wag his tail or shoves it between his legs, the reality does not change. They are standing in their graves and are saying, the time is NOT up. What does it mean? MITTI PAO?

    Yeah, there are more people who wanna Mitti Pao on them bakaoz the people think that its time for them to hang up their boots.

    KP KHUPP GAYA………… 3 SPINNERS GOT A PIECE EACH …………….. A LOW MORGAN BHEE GAYAA…… 37/4

    LADY LUCK SHARMA SHARMA KER MUSKURA REHI HAI MISSYBABA PAY 😀 AUR, VO BHEE ALLAH, RAJU KEH KER…. SHABBU KI TERHA!

    “What a Test match this is! Brilliant entertainment. Here’s some stats: Only four times have England lost when chasing a target of less than 150… Three of those were before 1903. The last such instance was in 1978 in New Zealand, when they fell for 64 chasing 137.”

  186. #186 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 10:47 AM

    Indian SENIORS are trying to cling on to each other by giving statements in favour of each other. Sehwag says, no one will retire. Gambhir says: “Laxman has right to decide when to go.” Dhoni says, gradual phase out, no overhauling …..

    Dravid and Tendulkar are quiet and acting like observers or diplomats? A good diplomat thinks twice before saying NOTHING. AND, these three are screaming because, they think if the FAB 3 goes, then these 3 Musketeers will also be under pressure. So, instead of being direct, they are using this indirect approach of protecting others’ asses so that theirs can be protected as well. KION NEWGUY SAHEE HAI KAY NAHEE?

  187. #187 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 10:52 AM

    At TEA, England are 39/4 Strauss and Prior are there, Trott and The Broad yet to come and sing the Swann song? Hunooz Dilli Door Ast. With this meager total it is really tough to defend, so far the spinners have done a good job for Pakistan. But, in the first innings they allowed The Broad to spread and stretch more than usual and that is gonna hurt! Kisay aur Kahan? Ye sochnay ki baat hai! 😀

  188. #188 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 10:58 AM

    What does this mean? The third umpire can turn a blind eye?

    16.4
    Abdur Rehman to Strauss, no run, 91.4 kph, Appeal for a bat-pad and the umpires are having a discussion, spun back in from the rough outside off, Azhar Ali at short leg got his fingers under the ball so the catch looks clean, there was an inside edge and Strauss is in trouble, the ball did not touch the ground and Strauss survives!
    I think Strauss is lucky there because there was an edge and Azhar got his fingers under the ball, that looked out to me and the commentators. The third umpire didn’t think the catch was conclusive enough though.

  189. #189 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 10:59 AM

    match in balance jk

    somebody should hit a few lusty blows to relieve the pressure else england will be strangled.

  190. #190 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 11:10 AM

    Raju

    The reason Prior is in is to do that job besides Trott is unwell or injured? Nasser Hussain wants him to “drug up immediately” besides The Broad is there to hit. It will be in balance if they get these 2 now.

  191. #191 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 11:16 AM

    so u hink england in the box seat???

    hmmmm…………

    its on a knife edge as i see it

  192. #192 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 11:17 AM

    I don’t say box seat, but they still have a chance because Pakistan has a habit of slacking and giving up soon, the wickets have to keep tumbling down and that will keep the momentum in their favour. So, lets see if they get one more in the next couple of overs.

  193. #193 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 11:20 AM

    Ajmal and Abdur Rahman bowling tight at the moment, first run scored after 22 balls. But, most important is a wicket now.

  194. #194 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 11:25 AM

    Abdur Rahman GOT HIM…… Prior gone, 56/5 now it is getting interesting. But, Strauss is playing the anchor role, see what he and Trott can do? After them its the tail with The Broad and The Swann.

    Correction, it was cricinfo who wrote Prior, but it is Strauss who is OUT.

  195. #195 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 11:38 AM

    Last 8 overs:

    Ajmal has bowled 4 consecutive maiden overs.

    Abdur Rahman bowled 4 overs 2 maidens but, he got STRAUSS.

  196. #196 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 11:42 AM

    The cricinfo commentator is saying: “Trott’s not very well remember…Delhi belly or the middle eastern equivalent……..”

    Batnee Tawoornee, Dard-un-Shadeedun, Ijabutt Taveelun ………………. what else?

    Turbulence in the stomach, jettison before crash landing and Trotting back to the Pavilion 68/6 now!

  197. #197 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 11:48 AM

    Jk

    it seems pk may win. Somebody from england has to attack else its alwida

  198. #198 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 11:50 AM

    LO JEE Abdur Rahman CHAA GAYA ……… THE BROAD OUT ON A GOLDEN DUCK

  199. #199 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 11:55 AM

    Raju

    Now the water is above the head and from here on England needs a miracle because, they are under tremendous pressure and Prior’s wicket would be Pakistan’s priority and if he goes now, the match will be over today! Swann will be sent with the instructions to attack but, the spinners are too good at the moment and both are bowling well, Ajmal very, very tight, Rahman very tempting, luring and effective in getting wickets.

  200. #200 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 11:58 AM

    Raju

    I don’t like Misbah’s negative batting but, here it is the bowlers who are doing a great job and I want Pakistan to win so that England doesn’t get the $175,000 cheque from the ICC for the top test team. SA will take it if Pak beats England 2-0

    SWANN OUT AJMAL GOT HIM.

  201. #201 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 12:02 PM

    A LO JEE

    PRIOR BHEE GAYA, SAME OVER ITCH…… THE MATCH IS ALMOST OVER NOW, JUST A FORMALITY REMAINING.
    WELL BOWLED AJMAL AND ABDUR REHMAN.

    Its gonna be MONTAY now along with Jimmy Hendherson

    HANDERSON GONE PAKISTAN WON BY 72 RUNS, ABDUR RAHMAN 6 WICKETS, AND, PAK WON THE SERIES.

  202. #202 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 12:09 PM

    England has lost a test match at such low scores after 34 years. The last time they were out on 64 chasing 137 was at Wellington New Zealand in 1978. Today they are all out for 72 lost by 72 chasing 144.

    Now, if the 3rd test is drawn, the $175,000 cheque will go to SA and England will eat a humble pie and feast on hot cross buns.

    England’s last 5 wickets fell within a space of 11 deliveries and only 4 runs were scored.

  203. #203 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 12:12 PM

    Jk

    mein tenu kah riya tha england har jaega.

    By playing so defensivly,they allowd pressure to develop.it wasnt a 73 pitch.

    Dear, chck is a tertiary thing. When a team wins capt always gets credit. So u will have to face a fresh wave of Mishappism and unless we see an 8-0 druebing, mishap wil now remain capt till 2015.

  204. #204 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 12:13 PM

    NewGuy

    Something for you to comment: “Bob Willis has just said apart from the current Indian line up at its best, nobody could have lived with that (Ajmal and Abdur Rahman’s) bowling.”

    Ps

    LOL @ its best, ahahaha

  205. #205 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 12:17 PM

    Raju

    Lets see if he can win in Mishakapatnam? 😀

    The first test it was Ajmal all the way’
    The second test its Ajmal and Rahman all the way.

    If Misbah can draw the 3rd match, he shall be doing a big favour for the South Africans, they will build his monument in Durban.

  206. #206 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 12:35 PM

    I disagree wth wilis cigrate

    had australia been playing they would have fought better.jusj like they playd against africa and chasd 310
    although they flopped against Nz,they stil wernt bowld for 72.

    England made 340 against same bowling,couldnt muster even 100.

    All presure

  207. #207 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 12:36 PM

    3rd test england will also lose

    Whitwash.

  208. #208 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 12:48 PM

    World #1

    hun..

    Bowled for 72

    ICC MUST REVAMP RANKHNG STRUCTURE.

  209. #209 by NewGuy on January 28, 2012 - 2:02 PM

    WOW, just got up and saw stunning win by Pakistan. I have lots of catching up to do. But first, congratulations on Pakistan win, a series win over world #1 Team.

    Amazing confidence from bowlers to win match. Misbah has done greater than Imran or not? beating #1 Test team 2-0 is big, now a 3-0 white wash awaits England in Dubai.

    I will comment more after I follow what happened in the match in detail.

    As for Indians, I have nothing to say, I just saw pathetic statements from Sehwag, I only have one to say, Indians raise these idiots to deity level after hitting some sixes and fours. Sehwag and half of Indian team would have been kicked out if they played for Australia by now. Indians are showign sub-continental culture at its worst, every one under performed, now scratching each others back to stay in team, including selectors and board who are trying to be defensive to deflect criticism. Its the biggest problem in Indian culture for them to get ahead, in Western world we accept responsibility for our failures and try to fix it. If someone do not perform we cut them off and or give them one chance to redeem, if not performers come into the team. This is how countries like Australia do everything, that is also why Western world is more successful. I am done with following Indian team until people like Sehwag, Dhoni, and Gambhir are put in their place, and the seniors retired.

  210. #210 by NewGuy on January 28, 2012 - 3:20 PM

    And one more thing .. the problems in Indian cricket runs deeper than just the Team and the non performing players, it includes Administrators and Selectors. This idiot Rajiv Shukla said “we took corrective measures after England, that is why defeated them 5-0 on our home soil” – idiot conveniently mixes up meaningless ODI wins with Test losses. Not even comparable, you need to win 40 ODI on the trot to live up to 4-0 Test losses, it is so hard to win a Test. Idiots like this are the problem. Then there is the adoring public, who creates a star culture.

    Ian Chappel called it right, saying star culture a problem in India. Rightly so, every bollywood actor is a star, people worship them, every cricketer is a star, people worship them. Something to do with Indian mentality that raises people who have some success into god level proportion. Then that person cannot be ever wrong.

    I am shocked that Sehwag is even allowed to say things like that and media do not put him in place right away. Media also suck up to cricketers to get juicy interviews.

    Anyhow, I can go on and on the problems in Indian culture about lack of accountability, but it is point less, I have left it and not going back, so why waste my time reflecting back on negatives.

  211. #211 by NewGuy on January 28, 2012 - 4:00 PM

    I agree with Kamran Abbasi that Misbah’s safety approach is working in its favor. Here is an extract from what he wrote on the victory today:

    Misbah has brought tenacity to Pakistan cricket, best exemplified by the fascinating partnership between Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq in Pakistan’s second innings. Previous Pakistan teams would have succumbed to a base instinct to blast their way out of trouble, yet Misbah’s young troopers dug in, deeper and deeper. A partnership alien to the Pakistani spirit, albeit hewn of Misbah’s cool resolve, forged the winning margin.

    I wonder where Mohammed Munir is in times like this 🙂 am I the only one left to root for Misbah here.

  212. #212 by Raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 6:16 PM

    Jk

    wrt misakhapatnam,do u see england now winning anything on the tour. Their minds are now demonized by spinners and remember they lost 5-0 odi in india.

    Now they have a huge problem.while we are analyzing indian whitewash,indian board and even sri lankan board would have watched with interest today’s play bcoz England have now 7 more tests in 2012 to play against pk,sl and india. So square turners will be prepard and england’s nightmare has just begun.

    They wont be able to combat ashwin,mishra,ojha,herat,mendis on spin tracks. So if 2011 was a nightmare year for indha in test ckt,2012 wil be for england plus they play south africa at home.

    I feel england wil lose 3-5 tests out of these 7. So england Hell awaits you!

  213. #213 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 7:06 PM

    A high profile English writer George Dobell writes: “England were beaten. But so was Muhammad Ali..…. England were beaten by a side with two superb spinners on a pitch that turned. England did not surrender. They were beaten. There is a difference.” What about MONTAY and Swann? Had England won this match, they would have bragged about Monty’s 6 for.

    LOL !!! Difference my foot. Getting out for 72 runs is NOT surrender? The target was only 145 and they reached only the halfway mark and yet this GEORGE DOORBELL is chiming that they did not surrender? What’s wrong with Kevin Pietersen, how many runs did he score in 4 innings? Cook scored only 7 runs in the first 15 overs before getting out on a soft dismissal C&B Hafeez.

    Eion Morgan’s test career seems to be over. But, Pietersen will remain because he too has a status of a deity like Sachin Bai, Dravid Bai and Laxman Bai.

  214. #214 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 7:13 PM

    NewGuy

    Shouldn’t someone remind SEHWAG that he should thank GANGULY for making him an icon. Remember there was a time when Ganguly and Tendulkar used to open for India, especially in ODI’s they were one of the best pairs in the world. It was Ganguly when he was captain gave Sehwag the opportunity to open the innings with Tendulkar and in that WC in SA when Sehwag and Tendulkar both hit a six on Wasim and Waqar’s bowling, Sehwag became a star — India won that match despite Saeed Anwar’s hundred.

    Now, Sehwag has too much on his plate and he has forgotten how he climbed up the ladder rather, on the shoulders of Ganguly and forgetting his past and trying to save his own ass by saying NO one should retire despite this pathetic failure. If he is not going to give a chance to others like he got, how is he going to groom new players? They are making a mess of Rohit Sharma’s career. Poor chap had to sit out and watch helplessly as the oldies kept failing again and again and again.

  215. #215 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 7:16 PM

    England is blaming Kevin Pietersen not only for his poor and pathetic batting but, also for his lethargic fielding when he missed a simple run out of Asad Shafiq and after that he and Azhar Ali added another 49 runs.

    Whatever it is England still lost the match by 72 runs. I give the spinners ALL the credit for their wonderful bowling PYJAMAY NOO KOI KRAYDIT NAYEE DITTA BAKAOZ, HE REMAINED COOL AND C’EST CA. It is the bowlers who won the match for Pakistan.

  216. #216 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 7:22 PM

    Raju

    The same DOORBELL concludes his article with this sentence:“The challenge starts now for England.” And, you have concluded your comment with “So England, Hell awaits you.” Well, that is the challenge they have to face in the sub-continent when they play India and Sri Lanka in their backyard.

  217. #217 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 28, 2012 - 7:25 PM

    NG

    I think Munir is going through the post Umrah syndrome and back log at work + watching Dubai matches live. But, I wonder where KS is? I guess he too has some work related stress but, he usually finds time to comment in between. But, this is a bit worrying. Anyways, they will all come back.

  218. #218 by raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 7:55 PM

    jk

    yup, conclusions are different bcoz im not doorbell and doorbell is not raju 😉

    i feel england will get beaten by both india and srilanka

    and pyjama wont play any foreign tour apart from srilanjka in 2012 so it is MOOJAAN HI MOOJAAN for him!

    actually its true england didnt surrender while they were batting, they surrendered just when pk got aall out and gave them target of 140 odd.

    dear about KP, it is said just bring a left arm spinner and hell be a goner

    you know in india yuraj used to eat him; always plumb lbw with the arm ball.

  219. #219 by raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 8:00 PM

    well sharda from the statements of all players and board of india, it seems funeral is quite distant.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/551368.html

  220. #220 by raju reporter on January 28, 2012 - 8:24 PM

    in hindsighty, someonme from england should have slogged.

    thats what haddin does for australia, and gilly and healy used to do successfully.

    a 30-40 odd with a couple of boundaries or sixes would have upset the spinners.

    but they played mishappish and allo0wed spinners to dominate.

    if you rememeber mishap’s struck some sixes against monty; perhaps england had got mentally beaten before they playerd the spinners.

    well we have a bizarre situation- asian teams unbeatable in asia, beatable in south and england.

    england beatable in asia and unbeaten at home and australia.

    australia now reemerging.

    soputh africa perhjaps is the only one who hasnt been beaten recently and i thuink england will be fully tested at home when steyn ,[philander, morkel come to england.

    so overall no team is virtually unbeatable like austeralia was in 90’s and last decade or like windies before.

  221. #221 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 29, 2012 - 1:07 AM

    Raju

    Sharda hasn’t said anything new, she has highlighted the oldies performance with some stats, actually there is nothing significant to write home about. Perhaps the Indians will try to redeem some glory by winning the tri-series and the T20. But, that needs a lot of inspiration, right now the team is under extreme pressure to perform. The pitches are not going to be like Dubai, they will still be Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide so, India really needs to buckle up and put up a fight against SL first and then Australia. I mean to say if they win against SL they will probably feel more encouraged to fight against the Aussies. But, if they fail against SL, that will be the end.

  222. #222 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 29, 2012 - 1:13 AM

    Mohsin hints at full time job, he believes in strike when the iron is hot, but its too late now because, Whatmore seems to have signed the contract and he is resuming duties from Feb. 20th. This will be another glitch in the coaching, selection and management circle. The Captain and the players have already shown loyalties with Mohsin Khan and the team is winning so, they are all happy. Bringing a new coach at any other time would have been a welcome idea but, right now I doubt it. Since the contract is signed the PCB may not retract it or cancel it. Besides, Zaka Ashraf has to chew his words if he appoints Mohsin because, earlier he said, Mohsin does not have the qualification to be a national coach which already made Mohsin very upset. Anyways, lets see what Mohsin gets in reward? The post of the DG of the PCB?

  223. #223 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 29, 2012 - 1:30 AM

    Raju

    You mean to say that someone from England should have played a T20 innings? Yeah, at hindsight it appears easy to score 145 runs but, it was not possible because, the wicket was spinning too much. We saw that when Monty was bowling and then we also saw PK spinners bowling. Alastair Bavarchi who scored 94 in the first innings was struggling to score in the second innings and in the first 15 overs England scored 21 in 15 overs and Cook scored only 7 runs. They thought “The Broad” will do the job but he ended up laying a golden egg. That is why I don’t consider him an all-rounder. When it mattered most he failed. Dilshan too did the same in the T20 WC he scored throughout but, failed in the finals with a Zero.

    I dunno if you remember the 1992 WC match between England and Pakistan which was abandoned due to rain and bad weather. Imran did not play in that match and Miandad was captaining. Pakistan were all out for 74 runs in 40 odd overs, Moulvi Mushtaq and Saleem Malik were top scorers with 17 runs each. When England came in to bat it was not easy for them too, Wasim and Aaquib were unplayable on that pitch and Wasim got Gooch for 3. England may lament about the weather but, things would have turned as nasty as they were today. They got a second chance to beat Pakistan in the finals and we all know what happened.

  224. #224 by NewGuy on January 29, 2012 - 3:19 AM

    LOL @ England beaten but not surrendered comment .. all out for 72 is as meek surrender as they come. England has no clue how to face spin where the wicket is slow and low, with fielders crowding the bat and constant chirping around the bat, it is all a sub-continental type of pressure that is too hot to handle. Andy Flower will have to find some methods against spin, otherwise SL has got some very good spinners and their batsmen like Mahela and Samaraweera are masters in their back yard. India I don’t know, but in 7-8 months they will re-group, especially for home matches. Tough times for England.

  225. #225 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 29, 2012 - 6:52 AM

    Australian T20 squad against India next month is a weird mixture of players aging between 20 years (Mitchell Marsh) to 41 years old (Brad Hogg).

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-india-2011/content/squad/550531.html

  226. #226 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 29, 2012 - 7:00 AM

    Raju

    Take a look at this picture of the magnificent SIX. Among them are two very famous personalities of Pakistan who have eyes of Hema Malini. Please name them.

  227. #227 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 29, 2012 - 7:05 AM

  228. #228 by Mohammed Munir on January 29, 2012 - 8:15 AM

    NewGuy …

    Your comment no. 211 …

    Thanks for remembering, as Javed said, I have been really really busy and although I sometimes come in to ‘read-only’ a few of comments but I couldn’t contribute lately.

    I won’t say anything about Pakistan’s win, it doesn’t matter what I think or say, it is out there for all to see.

    Nevertheless, I am enjoying seeing people changing their, so called, predictions about this series on a daily basis. 😉

    On the other side, I also find it quite amusing to still see an Indian blogger (yourself) arguing in favour of Misbah with several Pakistanis who are against him. This is not everyday that we see an Indian fan disputing with Pakistanis in favour of Pakistani players/ team.

    I must say, hats-off to you man ………. Tussi Great Ho !!

    PS: BTW, a few of the above comments seems to be showing a feeling of resentment on Pakistan’s win as they are suggesting ways on how England should have player Pakistan spinners better and made a match out of it. At a first glance, these comments don’t sound to be coming from a Pakistani fan.

  229. #229 by Raju reporter on January 29, 2012 - 10:08 AM

    jk

    it wasnt such a treacherous track. i mean it wasnt a 72 pitch. it was the mind which made the pitch difficult.

    PS; yes, these were predictions. and predictions are never 100% correct. if somebody makes 100% predictions coorect , then he has some divine connection and no harm in acknowledging that one was incorrect rather than fleeing away.

    if one is suposed to favor a team on basis of his origins, then why indians are now being negative about india. so its not only pakis but indians also who feel disinterested when they find something wrong. So if one is based in afghanistan and he’s paki by origin and pakistan and afghanistan are playing, which team he should support. patriotism would demand pakistan but ethically it should be afghanistan as bread and butter is coming from there.

    secondly if its ok for a player to deliberately screw a match then it looks ridiculous to question common man’s allegiance over a match. perhaps at that point it didnt seem player was from pk.

    WELL ILL POST A DETAILED COMMENT/REPORT ABOUT HOW ENGLAND SHOULD PLAY SPINNERS. IAM COMPOSING IT ON MS-WORD AND ILL POST IT 15 DAYS FROM TODAY AS I HAVE TO STUDY IT FROM ALL “ANGELS”! 😉

  230. #230 by Raju reporter on January 29, 2012 - 11:36 AM

    jk

    famous are

    zia, iftikhar , junejo,ganja,mush, bhutto

  231. #231 by Raju reporter on January 29, 2012 - 11:39 AM

    hahaha

    check out this pice of shit!

    ths guy studied from st pats karachi, has a drug abuse history and now he’s asking all pakis to be a mishap

    yar makhan laganey ki bhi hadd hoti hae

    he is a zardri fan and before that was all mush

    rising sun worshipper

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/01/29/smokers-corner-being-misbahul-haq.html

    yes, jab team mein khelo to match haro aur jab kuptaan bano to apni seat pacci karo

  232. #232 by Raju reporter on January 29, 2012 - 1:27 PM

    ian chapells view of 3 greats and whom he’ll choose

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/551385.html

  233. #233 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 29, 2012 - 7:45 PM

    Raju

    By appearance (from his photo) he still looks like he is high on cocaine and he always writes something weird which makes him look even more like a pukka, pukka Ch2-yum-Sulphate. And, why wouldn’t he be Zardari’s exhaust fan? Bakaoz Zardari too is from “SaintPats”. I never thought people can stoop so low that they want every Pakistani to become Misbah? What a load of COW-DUNG.

  234. #234 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 29, 2012 - 7:50 PM

    Munir

    Raju has already responded to your comment leaving no room for me to add up anything further. Honestly speaking this is not a surprise from you, in fact this typical comment was expected and you are just taking an excuse that “even I (Javed) has mentioned that I was really busy — yes you may have been — but, this is not the only reason, you were waiting to see, “Ooont, kis kurvat baith taa hai” and then toss your coin and add your two cents!

    BTW, Munir the 2nd test started on Jan.25th PLEASE READ MY COMMENT NO. 70 DATED JAN. 24TH ‘In case you are lazy, here is a copy paste ” #70 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 24, 2012 – 3:27 AM For records I want to say here that despite the fact that I don’t like Misbah’s batting or captaincy, I don’t want England to get that $175.000 cheque from the ICC, I want SA to get that, it means I want Pakistan to beat England with a min. margin of 2-0

    So, what do you think? Also, my comments #183 to 201, while I was following England’s demise, I wrote that 144 runs lead is nothing and it was not just me but, everyone I talked said the same thing. I am sure, even you in your heart must have thought the same thing — Umrah kiya hai abhee, abhee tou jhoot na bolna — didn’t you? 😀

    Also, this thread is about Ajmal’s performance in the first test, since Ajmal and Abdur Rahman are performing outstandingly why shouldn’t I give them the credit they deserve? My question is, what has Misbah done personally? Just because, he happens to be the captain he is getting credit for nothing. I have also made fun of that writer who said, England beaten but not surrendered. I am not anti-Pakistani, does it sound that I am? Think a few more times before responding.

  235. #235 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 29, 2012 - 7:53 PM

    Raju, I was not talking about who is famous? I know who they are, I was asking about the eyes? Perhaps you haven not heard Zia’s joke. He asked Gen. Sawar, “log kehtay hain meri aankhain Hema Malini jaisi hain?” Sawar replied, “Sir aapki ek aankh doosri say nahee milti tou Hema Malini say kahan milenge?” CJC ka tou samajh hee nai aata kay vo ooper dekh reha hai ya neechay?

  236. #236 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 29, 2012 - 7:57 PM

    “I AM AGREE” WITH CHAPPELL ON LARA !

    Period, no more discussion.

  237. #237 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 30, 2012 - 5:08 AM

    Now that PK has won the series, every tom, dyke and harry is chirping like a Chiksy Daisy. Mohsin is saying PK will become No.1 test team in the world. Phutta Baja is saying Pakistan’s attack can challenge the best anywhere. Saad Shafqat is saying, victory built by the unsung heroes…… and there is a chorus and cheer leaders dancing like PK has conquered the world. Come on guys, this team is lacking batting prowess, they cannot score more than 350 on placid wickets and on fast tracks they are a 200-225 team. The spinners did a good job so far but, you cannot rely on spin bowling all the time and everywhere. You have to have a fine mix of fast bowlers and spinners. I don’t rate Junaid Khan as a bowler who can intimidate the opposition and Umar Gul is not consistent. No one knows the fate of Wahab Riaz and how will he fit in?

    Even with this bowling which can be effective it is the batting that is lacking so much, in my opinion it is a mediocre batting side. The partnership between Asad Shafiq and Azhar Ali is being praised as if they have scored like Clarke and Ponting? Their usual 40-50 at a strike rate of under 50 is nothing in situations where the opposition has posted a 400 runs total and this will happen in Australia, South Africa, England and even in Sri Lanka. Do you expect an out of form Younus Khan to score a triple ton? Misbah will dig up a trench in the pitch and bury himself there to draw a match or a series? Thats not gonna happen in those countries.

    People are getting too emotional and this euphoria will be jaded once they go to any of those countries I have mentioned above. Pakistan needs more effective batsmen and not like one off performance by their openers ……… the top and the middle order is like, now you see them, now you don’t.

  238. #238 by Mohammed Munir on January 30, 2012 - 8:26 AM

    Javed Khan …

    You said, Raju has already responded to your comment leaving no room for me to add up anything further.

    Well, my dear Javed, reading your above statement, a few questions come to mind …

    – Did I question Raju or even address my comment to him in the first place ❓
    – Do I ever seem to care for what he thinks or writes ❓
    – Do you seriously think I would like to even communicate with him ❓
    – Didn’t you read the comments of NewGuy in the previous thread addressed to this guy Raju ❓

    A simple point here is that we can not control others from what they think or say (or write in this situation) plus there are no checks here (LS) on who posts what (which is a good thing but have few side-effects), whereas on the other hand, I can surely control myself and my responses, and my response to all that is … IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE.

    So please don’t try to put me up against this Raju thing again just to create some traffic on the blog. 😉

    Secondly and coming back to your own response, although there was “no room for you to add anything further”, still you seem to have replied reasonably well. 😛

    I have read few of your comments where you have strongly predicted about England’s win, and you were proven wrong. So if you really think that I was dieing to making a statement after seeing Pakistan’s win or after you have been proved wrong, then I could have done that after first Test, which Misbah won for Pakistan in three days, against your earlier predictions. 😉

    But the only reason I replied to NG was because he mentioned about me in his comment, and not because Pakistan won the Test or because you were proved wrong.

    About Misbah, well nice try to tempt me into another endless debate, but it doesn’t really matters anymore what 1% people think on just one of the blogs about him or his leadership qualities. I am not contesting that you are wrong (in fact you can NEVER be wrong, at least about Misbah and on this blog), but for my own point of view, I would prefer to go with what the remaining 99% believe, and this time there is a very obvious and strong reason for that.

    After all, so many well-reputed journalists, ex-great players, respected commentators, coaches and international players as well as neutral-fans from other countries can not be all wrong in acknowledging and praising Misbah. 😀

    I ‘may’ write again after Pakistan have won the ODIs or may be T20s, (hopefully with AFRIDI performing). 😆

    Or still better, I think I should write only when Misbah wins against Australia and SA in their own backyards, because it seems this is the one and only criteria of success … right ❓

    I wonder if Australia/ SA also attach “so much importance” to winning in Asia, or is it only Asian mentality ❓

    Although I am positively sure that even if, hypothetically speaking, Misbah did ever achieve this, you will still have countless superficial reasons to blame and curse him or you may give 100% credit to other bowlers, coaches, batsmen, fielders, opposing teams, or even the umpires. 😉

  239. #239 by Raju reporter on January 30, 2012 - 11:35 AM

    Jk

    bhai agar tum mishap ko acha kahte ho to tum achey ho

    warna tum se behter hae wo shaks jo nasha karta hae ya khuda ko nahi manta.

    Agar aaj tum mishap ko acha kahogey to phir dekhna traffic kaisey badhti hae.

    Magr tum aqal rakhtey ho, gadhey ya bakri nahi ho ke rewadr ke pechey chaltey phiro.aur aqal 1% mein hi hoti hae magr jihalat ka koi ilaj nahi.

    Tum qatl karo,bey deen hojao,chori karo magr mishap ko acha kaho to sab maaf aur tum farishtey.

    Arey bhai isi blog par mein ne mush ki ks se burai ki to mishap ke chamche meri tareef karne lagey aur pochney lagey “ye tom umar armani ya abdul hae,friend ke lafz ke sath”

    magr jab mishap ki burai hoi to na baba ye to goya kaafir hae dor e hazar ke wali ko bura kahta hae.

    Bhai is mulk mein ghadaron (traitors) kii izzat hae,tabhi to ye hal hae. Ijaz butt ki aulad wali hae usey bura kahna gunah kabira hae.

    Khushamad mera mizaj nahi, laanat aisey player par jo mulk ki biizati karta hae match har kar.

    NAMAK HARAM CAPTAAN!

  240. #240 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 30, 2012 - 5:51 PM

    I have just read Munir and Raju’s comments and I am going out have to do a few important things, and I will reply when I will come back. G2G.

  241. #241 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 30, 2012 - 9:36 PM

    OK, I am back now.

    Munir — first of all on a blog (any blog) when people write their comments, anyone or everyone who reads it has the right to respond or not to respond to your comment, irrespective of the fact that whether you address them by name or not and this is what blogging is about.

    Whenever I see something on any blog say; DAWN, BBC or whichever blog, either I respond to the thread i.e., address the author or, I respond to someone’s point of view with whom I agree or disagree. There is no specific rule that I will address only to that person to whom I wish to address by name and no one else has the right to reply to my comment. aNO, that doesn’t happen at public forums be it a blog, chat site or a message board, once you post your comment you have no control over it, it is like “Teer Kamaan say nikal gaya.”

    Therefore, for you to say you did not address your comment to Raju or you don’t want to communicate with him is not like emailing or writing a letter or sitting at a private gathering and ignoring the other person and if he/she responds, you can politely say, I am directing my comments to so and so and that is different. If I write a comment on the blog anyone has the right to respond.

    Secondly, should we only communicate with people who agree with us or who are like minded? Blogs are for airing individual opinions and people may or may not agree with each other. I believe that too much agreement kills the chat. I may disagree with you, Raju or NG or anyone for that matter and later on may be I will change my opinion and agree with you guys, because at that time I may not have the ability to understand their point of view.

    I certainly don’t mind if you taunt at me (which you did) on Misbah or Afridi because, my views are about their game and personally I have nothing to do with them. You may call 1% of the population believe that Pakistan would have lost this test match and 99% believe they will win, is your own perception. You may listen to the Phutta Baja on his post match comments in his podocast @ cricinfo in which he said, EVEN HE did not think that Pakistan would have won the match with a lead of only 144. This is just an example, there are hundreds and thousands of people who are die hard cricket fans including Zain, he too said, we never thought Pakistan would have won — hats off to the spinners they have won the match which is more like a miracle.

    Btw, its your frustration that you are saying that I have given credit or I will credit the coach (LOL @ Mohsin Khan & his Khush fehmiyaan) and I will NOT give credit to Misbah. If Misbah does anything significant he shall be given the credit, he is just there like a cog in the wheel. And, that too at times slows down the momentum and adds negativity which is over looked because the team is winning.

    And, I’ve asked you to give your honest views whether you were 100% sure Pakistan would have won that match with a lead of 144? Like always, you have very nicely dodged that question. Why I have added a few more comments after writing that Raju has covered most points raised in your comments is because, I wanted to answer that question where you challenged my patriotism and I referred to that comment #70 in which I wrote, I want PK to win the series by at least 2-0 and gave the reason, still you think I am not a patriotic Pakistani because I am not supporting Misbah.

    From the same analogy of yours NewGuy is also not patriotic because he is demanding the retirement of 3G’s plus Sehwag, Dhoni and Gambhir. And, then in the next breath you are negating your own comment by saying NG Tusi GREAT ho because in your view him being an Indian and supporting Misbah also arguing against Pakistanis by supporting a Pakistani is something of a rarity in your eyes? Actually you are agreeing with NG’s views because, his views are similar to yours and you think Misbah is GREAT. So, whoever supports Misbah is actually Great in your eyes.

  242. #242 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 31, 2012 - 3:50 AM

    This is the way how the Australian Cricket Board works and this is how the Australian players feel like when they are “rested”

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/content/current/story/551620.html

    In the sub-continent this kinda selection is unheard of, they rely on old masters and their past glories.

  243. #243 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 31, 2012 - 5:09 AM

    Believe It or, Not! When there is extreme cold there is fire in the ice. Raju, this link is from your Samaa.tv just a minute and a half video proves how we deal with winter here. Munir beware of the snow and ice before you even dare to think of visiting here in the winter.

    http://www.samaa.tv/afpvideolist.aspx?type=afpvideo&loc=AFPEnglishVideoflvMMV395122_TEN

  244. #244 by Raju reporter on January 31, 2012 - 10:48 AM

    Ignore to teen dafa aisey likha hae jaisey teen talaq di jarahi ho 😉

    itney ghaur sey to mein khud apney comment nahi padhrta, lagta hae frustration nuqta e urooj par ja pohonchi hae kae dil ko teen dafa samjhana padta hae “aegnore,aeg..”

    goya key itni maqnitisiat hoti hae hamare comment mein!

    Is aegnore or i ganwaar par koi shair samjh nahi araha 😀

  245. #245 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 31, 2012 - 3:15 PM

    NewGuy

    Dhoni is now clarifying his statement about 2013 and saying: “If there is a better man, give him the job.” Before yanking out he should have remembered that he should have never held himself so high that he can’t see the place where he is standing anymore, but now, he knows that reality bites and that too, from the rear end. 😀

    Now it is time for the selectors to seriously find a captain for the test team, not just a captain who is behind the wicket or the one who is taking a nap in the slips with his “bucket like hands” wide open to let the ball slips away coolly. But, a captain who is wide awake and is involved in the thick and thin of the game.

    I dunno much about Indian domestic cricket but, there are definitely a few names apart from Kohli that comes to my mind are Rohit Sharma, Badrinath, Jaffar, Mohammad Kaif (reportedly he still plays and plays well?) you can also keep the bander in the fast bowlers list and there is Praveen Kumar and Zaheer Khan — both may play for a couple of years at least — But, a captain must be young and I would propose Rohit Sharma’s name. Raina and Yuvraj should not be in the test team at all. In fact Yuvraj with his lung tumor may not even play cricket in the next 6-8 months. After that, like Haddin says, if a new guy performs well you’ll find it extremely hard to get back into the team.

  246. #246 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 31, 2012 - 3:30 PM

    Like MonTay performed in the last test because he is aware of the sub-continent pitches, England should have thought of Ravi Bopara as well. He is a better player at the moment than KP or Bell and not just as a batsman he is a pretty decent bowler and could have been more effective in the UAE. But, it seems to me that England’s selection policies are based more on a quota basis rather than the need and merit.

  247. #247 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 31, 2012 - 3:38 PM

    Ye Gol… hai ya Chapti hai? Jo bhee hai Munir kay liyeh Mamnoo hai. 😀

    Golshifteh Farahani

  248. #248 by Raju reporter on January 31, 2012 - 9:00 PM

    Lol at this quote

    ” aristotle always maintained women have fewer teeth than men; although he was marsied twice,it never ocured to him to check veracity of this claim by examining his wives’ mouths.”

    goya ke aristo bhi aurat ke mamley mein duzz kha gaey. Wah re Moula tu ne bhi aurat kya ajeeb cheez banae hi. 😉

  249. #249 by Raju reporter on January 31, 2012 - 9:04 PM

    To mian jk chahe gol ho, teena ho ya nargus ho ye mard ki aqal gol kardeti hae.

    Ab is ke baghair bhi masla aur iske hotey hue bhi masla.

    Waisey i dont blame aristo,ab biwi ke dant kaun giney ga!

  250. #250 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 31, 2012 - 9:58 PM

    Raju

    Ye tou cultural baat hai kay kaun kya ginta hai? Aur har culture may har cheez ki ahmiyet alag, alag hoti hai. There is a movie called Sher Dil or “Brave Heart” jis ka hero hai Mel Gibson, you may have seen that movie in which he plays the role of a Scottish commoner and the heroine was Princess Isabelle. One night, the Princess tells her French maid to stay in her tent rather sleep in her bed and she will go and meet Gibson. She goes, meets Gibson and comes back early morning. The French maid was very curious to find out what happened between the two of them? And she asks the princess what she did all night? The princess replied, “we talked all night!” The French maid was so disappointed and she tells the princess, “its a shame that the English do not know how else to use their tongue!”

  251. #251 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 31, 2012 - 10:06 PM

    Following is the Indian squad for the T20 which will start tomorrow afternoon EST.

    MS Dhoni*†, R Ashwin, G Gambhir, RA Jadeja, Z Khan, V Kohli, P Kumar, PA Patel†, IK Pathan, SK Raina, V Sehwag, R Sharma, RG Sharma, SR Tendulkar, MK Tiwary, R Vinay Kumar, U Yadav.

    SO, what will be the playing 11 ? Who is gonna make a guess that will be closer to the real team? My guess is: GUESS not verdict. And, I am highlighting the names of the players who I think will play.

  252. #252 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 31, 2012 - 10:15 PM

    The above is very confusing, so I will place the names vertically and also in batting order:

    V Sehwag
    G Gambhir
    SR Tendulkar
    SK Raina
    V Kohli
    MS Dhoni*†
    R Sharma
    IK Pathan
    R Ashwin
    P Kumar
    Z Khan

    There are 3 medium fast bowlers i.e., ZAK, P.Kumar and IK Pathan.
    One full time spinner, Ashwin
    Three part time spinners, Sehwag, Rohit, Raina.

    Batting will be more strong because even Ashwin can score and ZAK et P Kumar can bit big.

  253. #253 by JAVED A. KHAN on January 31, 2012 - 10:22 PM

    Tiwary is supposed to be a big hitter, so I am not sure whether he will be considered or not? If at all he is selected then he should take up Gambhir’s spot.

    And Dhoni’s blue eyed boy Juddoo may get a chance based on preferences.

    But, I don’t understand how come Tendulkar’s name is in it? Didn’t he announce his retirement from T20? Anyways, I have added his name in playing 11 because it is there and the selectors cannot ignore Tendulkar if he is in the squad.

    NewGuy — Any comments?

    In T20, only the top 3-4 batsmen makes the difference by scoring fast and scoring big and if they fail, the others have to struggle, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t so there is always a catch. This is one of the reasons I always insist that big-bashers like Afridi, Razzaq etc., must open the innings and take chances, the openers must score 10-12 runs per over for the first 6 overs if they score at an average of 6-7 its not safe. And, players like Younus Khan have no place in the team, aur Pyjamay da koi zikr nai.

  254. #254 by NewGuy on February 1, 2012 - 3:20 AM

    Javed Khan,

    Tendulkar does not play T20I, he said so many years back and retired from it, will he play to get an international hundred? LOL .. that will be the height of desperation. Seriously, I don’t think he will play. So, Tiwary most likely there. Also not sure Sehwag will play, he hasn’t played a T20I in a while, most likely Parthiv Patel in that place. Also, what no Jaddu in your line up, how can that be, Jaddu is a sure inclusion. Irfan, will he get a game, I dunno. PK and ZK are likely. Let’s see. Anyway, I don’t care about this gilly ganda game.

  255. #255 by NewGuy on February 1, 2012 - 3:25 AM

    Munir,

    Good to see you back. Please post once in a while. There is enough reasons to cheer now that Misbah has proven critics wrong. They don’t have to agree. Don’t feel bad if Javed Khan or Khansahab are not agreeing. It is their choice and they are strong willed people, not easily giving up. Which is fine. But we can all disagree in a civil manner, like you are doing. See, how I have hung around, and kept my benefit of doubt until the England series to pass judgement. I have said lets wait until Pakistan plays England when JK / KS, both were saying the wins were against minnows. As for winning in Eng, Aus, SA, I say show me a team that can win consistently everywhere. Eng, Aus, SA, can they win in Asian pitches, and in each others homes? Not possible. So why Asian teams should be judged any different.

  256. #256 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 1, 2012 - 3:51 AM

    NewGuy

    That is my point, why is Tendulkar’s name included in the T20 squad? In my comment #253 I did mention the name of Jaddu that he may be included on preference basis. Anyways in the next 5 hours we will see who is playing? The Australian team is very young except for 2 buddhas, Brett Lee and Brad Hogg.

    As regards yours and Munir’s views on the blog about Misbah, we do respect everyone’s views here and the blog is open for comments without moderation. In any case there shouldn’t be any hard feelings from anyone because these are just opinions and that too about some cricketer, whereas we are much more closer to each other than we are with them. So, why take it personal? I certainly don’t mind people disagreeing with my views and opinions. All are welcome to write against my views. Like you’ve said, we are strong willed people, I think everyone should be strong willed otherwise you are labelled as a yes man.

  257. #257 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 1, 2012 - 4:09 AM

    According to cricinfo the following are probables for the T20 today

    1 Virender Sehwag,
    2 Gautam Gambhir,
    3 Virat Kohli,
    4 Suresh Raina,
    5 Rohit Sharma,
    6 MS Dhoni (capt, wk),
    7 Ravindra Jadeja / Irfan Pathan,
    8 R Ashwin,
    9 Praveen Kumar,
    10 Vinay Kumar,
    11 Umesh Yadav.

    Before seeing this list of the possible team, I was thinking (based on my team) that India must win this T20 very easily against the Australians. But, now its a 50-50 chance. It all depends on how India gets the start?

  258. #258 by Mohammed Munir on February 1, 2012 - 9:25 AM

    NewGuy …

    Thanks for your words of encouragement, and the simple reason why I wrote, “Tussi Great Ho” was not because you liked Misbah but I was admiring your guts for ‘hanging-in-there’ and justifying something which is not even close to your heart, Misbah.

    Arguments are all fine as long as they are backed by logic and real facts and are within civilized manners, and therefore I personally prefer ignoring others or leaving the discussions rather then abusing and name-callings. But I can’t help it if someone thinks, and very strongly believes, that Misbah singly and purposefully lost that semi-final and he is a traitor. While they completely forget and forgive about a captain chewing the cricket ball in full stadium, scuffing the pitch on camera, his frequent retirements & reversals, raising his bat on a spectator, and dropping cases and negotiating with Ijaz Butt.

    If we can forgive and forget about all these and many other intentional bloopers by one individual then we should be prepared to forgive an 18/ 19 years old kid (Mohammed Aamir) for his mistake, no matter how serious it was, or for that matter we should forgive Misbah for a purely “assumed and alleged” mistake/ accusation.

    The examples I quoted above are two extreme cases and there is absolutely no uniformity or consistency of views and reactions in these two scenarios.

    Anyways, to cut the long storey short, it’s a free world and every one of us is absolutely free to hold their views and react in their own suitable ways. Similarly, we are all free to communicate, comment or ignore to whomsoever we perceive fit.

    BTW, I liked your comments from the previous thread, being successful surely changes a lot of things in one’s life as well as their perception about others. 😉

    I have been trying to read LS comments, but was busy to write more often. I think once we start the ODIs and Ex-Captain Afridi joins the team and plays under Mishab, you may see me writing more. 😉

    Javed Khan …

    LS was never like any other blog.

    If we had 100s or at least 10s of bloggers then anyone can write anything without addressing or naming anybody, but if we have hardly 4/5 active bloggers it is always better to address/ reply only the one you want to communicate with. This has been the general practice on LS, as most of the comments are addressed by names here.

    Secondly, I can hardly see any other blogs without any kind of ‘moderation’ or some check and bounds. I agree that most of the bloggers here are mature and strict codes or word limits are not preferred options but some sort of moderation is always required. This was always there on LS, but during the World Cup matches there were very frequent commentaries and seeing their own convenience the administrators decided to totally remove all moderations. Initially, this idea was welcomed and seemed fine, but it surely has obvious and unwanted effects.

    Further, every society has different rules for blogging. You are sitting in Canada, Khansahab in England and NG in USA so the blogging parameters in these countries are civilized and decent, but blogging in Pakistan, for example, can be totally a different ballgame from what we are use to see on LS.

    I can not understand allowing a totally unbridled free usage of foul-language and abusive terms on a public forum which every blogger including even the administrators themselves are uncomfortable with.

    Please don’t misunderstand me, it’s not a matter of only one or two words but this has become a norm lately, which for me is unacceptable.

    PS: Last point, why all the comments have to be in “BOLD” ❓

  259. #259 by Raju reporter on February 1, 2012 - 10:32 AM

    Jk

    it seems its ok to humiliate butt but not to say a single word to his son mishap bcoz he’s like a savior etc. Sorry but it depicts inconsistency and nothing else.

    Well blogging and geography and standards; i find this bizarre as on international forums there are geo based rules. A US based blog has same rules as a UK based blog. I think its all criticsm of a traitor which leads one to kneejerk reactions and it wasnt a mistake,it was a deliberate blunder.

    Well i dont modification at all as i was first one to call for it whn i had exchanges with KS.

    Million $ question is if a supporter of butt would have called for moderation when he was molested here,who would have supported him, no one becaus no one likes butt but his son has some fans.

    Anyway, it looks more to me a mountain out of a molehill just to stop criticsm of miscariage ul haq. 😉

  260. #260 by Raju reporter on February 1, 2012 - 10:36 AM

    “Wise man forms his own opinion, fools follow public view.”

    Chinese Proverb.

  261. #261 by Raju reporter on February 1, 2012 - 12:08 PM

    Jk

    if u remember butt when he left he said he broke PLAYER POWER.actually what he meant that he’s leaving but his jaan nasheen will sit on the throne.

    So who should get credit for appointing kheera as the capt?

    IJAZ BUTT!

    So praisers of mishat are praising butt for this master stroke. So jeeo ijaz butt , tauda munda butt da naam roshan kar raha hae.

    Hehe…

    Butt to mishap 😉
    how aayeranic!

  262. #262 by NewGuy on February 1, 2012 - 1:17 PM

    Munir,

    To be honest, I too am very uncomfortable with the “choice” of words used of late here by a one blogger, and have been thinking of not posting. I don’t like to actually post very much except when Javed Khan or Khansahab call out to me specifically. One reason is time, another is the abusive language is a put off. I thought of mentioning this to JK / KS, but then I didn’t want to put a burden on them, it’s a free society and people can chose what they want. I have the option to remain silent or go away.

  263. #263 by NewGuy on February 1, 2012 - 1:32 PM

    Munir,

    I have also in the past pointed out that Afridi has done all these things you mentioned and hence he is not fit to be captain no more, Misbah on the other hand has done quite admirably, which of late has been noted by even English writers. Recently a well known writer called Sclyd Berry who writes for Wisden wrote on this. Anyhow, the point is, I don’t have anything against Afridi, I like him as a player, he is passionate and he gives his best in the field, but he is not the answer to Pakistan’s problems as a leader, this was proven. Besides, he quit Tests, so I don’t sometimes get what is the point in bringing his name up in Tests. I have asked this, and the answer I got is that Afridi quit Tests because of conspiracy from Butt and co. Perhaps, it is likely, however, to me a captain who quits in the face of adversity is not a good leader. He should have stood up against the miscreants, instead of throwing it all away. My own personal feeling is that he does not like playing Testsm and sees himself more as a LOI player. Even in that role he quit his role as captain and retired based on his difference in opinion with Ijaz Butt. It is good that he has come back, and contributing to team. I don’t think I have reason to dislike Afridi and like Misbah more. I am just writing based on what I have observed over many months of Cricket. Most writers also see it this way now.

    Also on the WC semi, I have said before too that although Misbah batted slowly, he is only one of the reasons for the failure. There were 10 other players, equally responsible. It appears that magically Misbah could have saved the match, what if he slogged the first ball and got out, would he have gotten the blame then. There are others who threw away their wickets.

    Anyhow, as far as I am concerned, those days are gone, now Pakistan is on a new path, and the team is looking good under Misbah. There is no reason to feel differently now. Another thing I want to write about is how Misbah is taking Pakistan to a new paradigm which may shape up the future of Pakistan cricket in the near term. But later.

  264. #264 by NewGuy on February 1, 2012 - 1:40 PM

    A hint on what I want to write about new shift in Pakistan cricket. Strong team oriented culture and collective performance, rather than individual super star culture. There used to be super stars always on Pakistan team who seemed to have an parallel following to the team, sometimes given importance even more than the team. Akhtar, Asif, Amir for instance, or Wasim, Waqar, Inzi, so on.. Now, it there are no super stars, only strong performances and Team wins.

  265. #265 by Raju reporter on February 1, 2012 - 1:53 PM

    Well its upto the readers to judge who’s being abusive.

    Names like “puppy” are being showered and somebody passes cheap comments whn one mentions his in laws. And when they get a taste of their own medicine, they preach civility.

    Anyway, its all based on pro mishapism. What jk says

    tu mera raaag
    mein teri raagni

    so whn puppy was mentioned, it was bypassed. But the problem is puppy user is a mishap fun and the other one was a mishap critic. So its the critic’s fault bcoz he’s criticizing.

    A meek tactic to show grief and piety and perhaps a plea to get the criticsm stopped.

    Yesterday it was ignore mantra and today passive attacks are launched- dual standards.

    Fact of the matter is criticism is hurting and one should try to blunt that instead of character depiction.

    But inadequacy of arguments and poor defence leads one to such cheap resorts.

    How exactly one got abused?

    Who initiated cheap comments about personal relationships?

    And whn ammo is finished, talk of quitting?

    Anyway, who needs a certificate from mishap fans

  266. #266 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 1, 2012 - 4:07 PM

    India lost, no one commented — Dhoni played a Mishap innings — no one commented? He was the top scorer and remained not out — no one commented. His team lost but, he scored better than his team mates, — no one commented.

  267. #267 by Raju reporter on February 1, 2012 - 4:23 PM

    Yup, it was a mishap sequel.

  268. #268 by Raju reporter on February 1, 2012 - 5:16 PM

    On second thoughts mishap did a better screwing job than dhoni.

    Well chomping of ball or pitch tampering are bad acts but they were meant to help the team in winning and mishap helped the opposition in winning and pardoning amir would be mother of all frauds.

  269. #269 by Raju reporter on February 1, 2012 - 5:54 PM

    Breaking news

    amir releasd fgrom london jail.

  270. #270 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 2, 2012 - 12:27 AM

    Munir — I don’t understand most of the contents of your recent comment because, it appears to have been written in reference to some context, which I don’t remember especially if it is a few days or a week old. Because, I cannot follow every word written by everyone or even by me. Now, this paragraph of yours is even more intriguing than the rest.

    “If we can forgive and forget about all these and many other intentional bloopers by one individual then we should be prepared to forgive an 18/ 19 years old kid (Mohammed Aamir) for his mistake, no matter how serious it was, or for that matter we should forgive Misbah for a purely “assumed and alleged” mistake/ accusation.”

    First of all who are we to forgive someone who has committed a crime? (its proved that it is a crime and that is why he and others were sentenced to jail). Since you are a banker, I am asking this question from you: If a banker has committed a crime and sentenced to jail, irrespective of his age, does any bank in the world would ever give him a job in a bank after he comes out of the jail? Be honest and tell me if I am wrong. Have you seen any banker who after coming out of jail got a job in a bank? Then why are you advocating Aamir’s case, so bloody what if he is 18 years old? Since how long he is 18? And what is the guarantee that his age is correct? Has he proved anyone with a bone density test?

    As regards forgetting — do you sincerely believe that you forget things? You are the one who have quoted Afridi’s pitch scuffing, ball chewing, bat raising incidents which are at least 2-6 years old and what makes you think we have (you wrote they) forgotten? You also mentioned about Afridi making outside the court settlement with Ijaz Butt, do you think we appreciated it? ALL of us condemned that and I remember writing that he (Afridi) has lost his respect in my eyes. How can YOU conveniently forget this?

    And, you have still not answered my question which I am asking for the 3rd time to be honest in saying whether or not you were 100% sure that Pakistan will win the second test match when the lead was only 144 runs? I also gave you Umray ka wasta and you dodged that question because, you think it is better not to answer and that will be safe? Well Munir you certainly don’t have to answer it because within the heart of your hearts you know that you were among those 99-99% people who were thinking or, saying Pakistan will definitely lose this match.

    And, you have also written, “We should forgive Misbah for a purely “assumed and alleged” mistake/ accusation.” You think it is a pure mistake, which is not even a mistake but WE ARE assuming it, WAH? Ignorance is bliss and I am not naive. Misbah is one of those players who pledged (Qasam Khai thee) along with 7 others that they will under perform under Younus Khan’s captaincy so that, he goes out. Go and get the video of WC semifinal and see when Misbah dropped that simple catch of Tendulkar, he had no remorse, no shame, no guilt on his face, it was like one of those pre-planned NO BALLS in that match fixing case.

    He was the first one who dropped Tendulkar’s catch, then it was that BHAND Younus Khan followed by the two Akmal brothers. And, you look at the way Misbah was blocking every single ball, between him and the other batsman they played 42 dot balls and Pakistan lost by 30 odd runs. Every single child was saying, Misbah is deliberately playing dot balls and you with your judicious knowledge of cricket you think it is a pure cricketing mistake which is being assumed and alleged. Why would we say that if Misbah had played a heroic role and won the match for Pakistan? And why he did that? I will write in the next comment because this is getting too big.

  271. #271 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 2, 2012 - 12:59 AM

    WHY MISBAH & CO. DELIBERATELY DROPPED TENDULKAR’S CATCH AND WHY HE PLAYED THAT TUK, TUK INNINGS?

    You don’t have to be Albert Einstein to figure out why Misbah under-played in the WC semifinal? Like it is a known fact that Misbah, Malik, Salman Butt, Rana Naveed, Akmals and Aamir (total 7 players) pledged that that they will under-perform when Younus Khan was captain so that he would be removed from captaincy and they succeeded. It was later revealed when the tape that was recorded by the investigating committee headed by Intikhab Alam in which Rana and the other player confirmed they actually pledged to conspire against Younus Khan. It was also revealed that Shoaib Malik was the biggest trouble maker in the team. Alam’s exact words were, “he (Malik) used to eat your brain like a termite.”

    Misbah’s intention was same, Akmals were still in the team and they corroborated with him and dropping Tendulkar’s simple catches were so obvious that there is something wrong here. When Misbah came to play he showed his intentions that he is not going to play fast and that added more pressure on others to keep the run rate high. Kamran Akmal played a nothing shot to get out and so did his brother and Misbah played till the end to get out on the penultimate ball of the match.

    This was a deliberate ruse to lose the match so that Afridi should not become another Imran Khan by winning the 2nd 50 over WC and when he was criticized, it was expected that he will retaliate and resign. He is very predictable and cannot control his emotions whereas, Misbah is like a ‘still water runs deep,’ he plays the game with a poker face and Ijaz Butt has guaranteed him that once this menace called Afridi is gone, you will be my ward, my protege, my puttar to lead the team. And, that is what is happening.

    Btw, we are not the one who came on this blog boasting about “LALAFIED” i.e., when he took 5 wickets and scored brisk 75 runs in Sharjah recently.

  272. #272 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 2, 2012 - 2:53 AM

    WE have a new thread please post your comments on the new thread, Thank you.

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