AAMIR, ASIF AND SALMAN BUTT MUST BE BANNED FOR LIFE

Char Paher Ye Fikr thie Pehlay Qaid say hon Azaad Kaheen  -  Ab Durr hai ye bay baal O bari may chorr na day Saiyaad kaheen?

Char Paher Ye Fikr thie Pehlay Qaid say hon Azaad Kaheen - Ab Durr hai ye bay baal O bari may chorr na day Saiyaad kaheen?

One of the culprits, a convict, a criminal, supposedly young, stupid and naive made a mistake because, he got carried away and was dragged into a situation by his seniors and peers and not knowingly how grave a mistake he is committing he landed into trouble.  When he was caught red-handed with money in his room that did not belong to him, he denied and it wasn’t just a denial but it was full of arrogance and attitude — meaning how dare you say that I am in the wrong doing? I am a superstar, a hero, a great fast bowler, a legend in the making, don’t you know I am the future Wasim Akram of Pakastan?

Yes sir, but where did this money come from? It is certainly not yours than whose is it? It is my aunties, nephew’s niece’s cousins daughter who is getting married and it is their money to purchase a wedding  dress for her. Ooops this wasn’t what I was supposed to say! This was supposed to be the captain’s template and he was supposed to say……errrr he has already said this.  And, me? I have also blabbed it out, so now what is going to happen? Am I trapped now? Yes, I am trapped, these people trapped me, I am innocent, I am young, I am seventeen, aNO  I was seventeen 2 years ago then I must be eighteen now? Or, is it nineteen? Whatever but, I am too young to be sentenced to jail because this is not a crime.  Crossing a line is a crime? We cross it everyday, we cross railway lines, we cross zebra lines, we cross civil lines but, this is just a line on the pitch and most bowlers cross it and the umpire says NO.  Even when I crossed that line the umpire said NO, so what is the difference between them and I ?

Line cross ki hai, gunah tou nahee kiya !

Line cross ki hai, gunah tou nahee kiya !

Sir, that was a mistake but, you deliberately crossed the line and not by an inch or a two but, by a foot or a two.  Well, when you are running on foot it is always a foot or two, so what is the big deal?  Sir, there is a deal, you made a deal with the bookie. What bookie? I don’t read books, in fact I have never read one, but I plan to read one if I don’t go to jail.  Sir, that bookie is not a book, it is a guy, your friend Mazhar Majeed.  Oh, him? He is not my friend he is my captain’s friend and I never talked to him.   Sir, we have proof that you have exchanged text messages with him.  I dunno what text messages are and I told you I never talked to him.  Sir, the text messages are those which you sent from your cell phone to his cell phone.  Oh, you mean SMS? Yeah, the same thing you say that in your country.  So, what did I say or write in it?

Sir, don’t you remember what you write? If I was a good writer, I would have been writing books and not playing cricket besides, a lot of gals also SMS me so I dunno which one are you talking about? The one in which you said, “Should I do it?” What were you asking him to do? Is it something that you wanted to do it in the toilet and sought his permission to do? Actually you did a big one and you are in it and there is no way of getting out of it.  Anyways, I am going to Pakastan and I won’t come back here to England.

In Pakastan he kept telling his friends and relatives that this is some kinda “yahoodiyoun ki saazish hai” aur angrezi may iss entrapment kehtay hain, I will challenge in the court of law that I am innocent and I will go back to clear my name.  In the meantime the ICC banned these players from playing international cricket for 5 years.   When the hearing took place in England, the three Musketeers and D’Arthagnan were sentenced ranging from 6 months to 3 years.

The latest news is Aamar is released after serving half his sentence and after spending a couple of weeks in England he will go back to Pakastan where thousands of people are waiting to give him a red carpet reception and tons and tons of flower petals shall be showered upon him as if he has won a war? The irony is it is only in Pakistan where convicts, criminals and thugs are considered as heroes and are given heroes welcome in the country.

Instead of doing all this comical and farcical antics (this is definitely going to happen that Aamir will get a heroes welcome back home) the PCB should have announced long time ago that Aamir, Asif and Salman Butt are banned for playing international cricket for LIFE.  Also, they should not be allowed to sponsor any ad or appear on TV shows or, TV commentary.  They must start a totally different job to maintain their lively hood which should be something else BUT, not CRICKET related.

I am a drinker with writing problems.— Brendan Behan

Mai peeta nahee hoon, pilayee gayee hai.

 

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  1. #1 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 2, 2012 - 2:50 AM

    Please post your new comments here ………… Thank you.

  2. #2 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 2, 2012 - 10:07 AM

    May be the subject of banning the trio for life is too stale and people are not interested in commenting on it? The thought of writing a new thread came after seeing / reading the news that Aamir has been released after serving half his six month sentence and may be appealing for a review on his 5 year ban by the ICC and will approach the CAS. Whereas, there are rumours that when he will arrive in Pakistan he will get a heroes welcome back? If this is true and if it really happens then it is real stupidity and a mockery of cricket, it will be one of the darkest days in the history of cricket for Pakistan.

    One may argue that the country’s head is a thug and no one can remove him? Yes, there is no denial in it because, the people who wants to remove him are just a few and their resources are limited and the rest does not do much except for yanking. But, in this case the PCB can and must take an action irrespective of what the CAS decides. They should announce that these players are banned for life to play cricket in Pakistan, PERIOD.

    It will send a message to the world that Pakistan is not only clean but, there is a zero tolerance policy for betting and match fixing and whoever indulges in it in future will face a life ban. Fear is the key — and that is one of the reasons why the team is more united now.

  3. #3 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 2, 2012 - 10:26 AM

    This new thread is a reflection of my feelings and I know some people may not agree with my views hence they might ‘Nignore’ it. In my profile on this blog you may see that I’ve written: “I write like others breathe.” It is one of my passion and I won’t stop writing. It is just like I won’t stop cooking. 😀

    The other hot subject that needs attention is SWITCH HITTING.

    In the previous T20 match between India and Australia, David Warner has created an uproar in the media as the Indian fans are outraged by the shot he played when Ashwin came into bowl he suddenly switched from left to right and smashed a huge SIX over what would have been deep extra cover, which wasn’t there.

    The issue is being raised on the pretext that

    1. The bowler must inform the umpire before bowling over or around the wicket
    2. The fielder cannot deceive the batsman by changing positions,

    Therefore the batsman should also NOT change or switch his stance from left to right or vice versa.

    What is DOOSRA and TEESRA? The bowler deceives the batsman with his action, doesn’t he? What is GOOGLY? Isn’t it the same as deceiving the batsman by the bowler? Therefore, in my opinion the two reasons which are taken as the basis of banning ‘switch-hitting’ are very trivial. If Doosra, Googly, Zooter, China man or the wrong un is allowed and legal, then there should be no problem with switch-hitting, IMO it is a skill and it is not easy to adapt to hit and that too, hitting it perfectly over the ropes for a six is not easy. Why cry when you have been beaten comprehensively?

  4. #4 by Mohammed Munir on February 2, 2012 - 10:31 AM

    NewGuy …

    Your comment no. 262.

    You are right, choice of words and abusive language is a big put-off on any blog, and I am sure the administrators know this very well. LS is not for teenagers, everyone here can take ownership of what they say and how they say it, after all it’s a public forum. A few days back, even Khansahab himself was openly showing his dissent with frequent use of certain derogatory words, but he was polite enough to put these comments as a ‘fellow-blogger’ and he didn’t use his authority as Administrator. BTW, where is KhanSahab these days ❓

    As it is there are very few bloggers left here, so I hope you stay around and keep posting, because if you decided to leave it will definitely be another put-off for me.

    I would like to read your impartial perspective (ref: comment no. 264) on Pakistan cricket’s future, specially you being a neutral fan.

  5. #5 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 2, 2012 - 10:31 AM

    Raju

    Gillani ka phir bulawa agaya? Is it Valima or what? 😀

    http://www.samaa.tv/newsdetail.aspx?ID=42547&CID=1

  6. #6 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 2, 2012 - 10:55 AM

    Munir — lets not drag this brawl any further because there is no end to it and no use about discussing it either. He said something because you said something and I said something and we all said something, its just a vicious circle. That is one of the other reasons I wrote a new thread. As regards khansahab he has always addressed you as Munir ‘sahab’ just out of respect and courtesy and nothing else. Even when he asked about you in your absence he added the word sahab after your name. He has told me that he is working on some new work-related project which is very important and it is keeping him very busy, also it is taking a lot of time in commuting back and forth, so he has apologized for not writing on the blog, but will be back, Inshallah.

    You may now add your two cents on whether or not corrupt players be allowed to play for Pakistan? And, whether or not SWITCH HITTING be allowed in cricket? I have already expressed my views and waiting for others to write, or should I write another new thread? 😀

  7. #7 by Raju reporter on February 2, 2012 - 11:05 AM

    Well i wont be on or off due to presence/absence of any blogger as with all hectic activities, its becoming difficult to post comments. Btw most abusive language was used for butt but it was enjoyed.

    Anyway,these are snippets from the past and i must say amir will get a hero’s welcome. Thats the trend in pk.
    Jk gilani is sumond in SC to get a charge sheet.

    This switch hit rona is another indian drama;minnows have a tendency to do that.if its ok to reverse sweep,why furore ovr switch shit.may be the lbw thing one might say is an issue but i think original stance should stay.

    Anyway ill cut the long STOREY short as its becoming a skyscraper and culminate with the hope that match fixing stops 😛

  8. #8 by Raju reporter on February 2, 2012 - 11:08 AM

    Jk

    giw my regards to ks and eye yum agree

    RAAT GAE BAAT GAE 😉

  9. #9 by Mohammed Munir on February 2, 2012 - 11:24 AM

    Javed Khan …

    I had written this below comment before I could see your latest comment no. 6, so I had to post it. 😉

    My intriguing paragraph was for NG, and he replied me on those points. So, I won’t go on that with you again, sorry. In fact there was a part specifically addressed to you in that comment (about blog rules, moderation, and language on LS) which you missed or preferred to miss. 😉

    Please revisit my earlier comment no. 238 and read it once again, because my “1% and 99%” comment was not about Pakistan winning or loosing. Let me paste it here for your ease of reference once again, About Misbah, well nice try to tempt me into another endless debate, but it doesn’t really matters anymore what 1% people think on just one of the blogs about him or his leadership qualities. I am not contesting that you are wrong (in fact you can NEVER be wrong, at least about Misbah and on this blog), but for my own point of view, I would prefer to go with what the remaining 99% believe, and this time there is a very obvious and strong reason for that.

    What I meant by this comment was that after winning the second Test and Series for Pakistan, 99% peoples today are supporting, praising and appreciating Misbah on all other blogs, while 1% people are still cursing and blaming him for whatever other reasons. So your question about what I thought of Pakistan’s chances of winning was irrelevant, and so I ignored it.

    I may not ‘forget’ about Afridi’s mistakes but you surely do, because I don’t see you discussing or publishing his bloopers as much Misbah’s mistakes. Tell me across your heart, do you talk about Afridi’s so many totally stupid mistakes with such hatred and passion as you mention about Misbah ❓

    When Afridi negotiated with Ijaz Butt he may have lost his respect in your eyes, but he gained that respect back very quickly and you are now absolutely fine with him. You had passed few comments against Afridi (more like a slap on the wrist), and forgot about it. Why not keep repeating it as often as you talk about Misbah’s issues ❓

    On ‘Lalafied’, well whenever someone (be it Afridi, Misbah, or anyone else), plays well I will appreciate and praise them without any objections, I don’t have different rules for different players. For me all players can be good or bad, and I treat them without any personal preferences or prejudices, so whoever is good for Pakistan on the day is I am ok with them. But it is you who find it so hard to praise Misbah, or even utter a single word of appreciation for him, specially when he is leading the team to great achievements.

    Your comment no. 271, you think it was a planned move by Misbah to drop Tendulkar, well I think then it must also be a plan by Tendulkar to deliberately throw that catch to Misbah ..… right ❓

    Anyways, I think what NewGuy said a few days back was correct, this blog has become totally pro-Afridi and anti-Misbah, it won’t be completely out of place to call it “Afridi Fan Club”. Actually, I don’t have any issue even with that too and I will still come and post my comments on a pro-Afridi blog named after him, but other players should not be cursed and blamed unnecessarily only to show Afridi in better light or to make him ODI/ T20 captain again. This is what I can not understand or agree with.

    PS: I am really not enjoying this discussion about Misbah & Afridi because I like them both as players, but I have to drag Afridi into this just to elaborate my reasoning and support my arguments. I think we can “agree to disagree” on this issue, and stop it right here.

  10. #10 by Mohammed Munir on February 2, 2012 - 12:02 PM

    Javed Khan …

    I have huge respect for you as well as for KhanSahab.

    If Khansahab calls me ‘Sahab’, I also call him with similar respect. Likewise, I always use your full name in addressing you, which is also a way of showing respect. Anyways, let’s not get into all this; there is a simple formula, “give respect and get respect”, which almost always works.

    On this thread, well haven’t read it in details, but I think if the law have some considerations and treats underage/ minors with leniency, then I think Amir should also be treated sympathetically comparing to Asif & Butt, based only on his age. I agree with you on Butt as well as Asif being banned for life, but not Amir.

    This is my personal view and the reason is firstly because this was Amir’s first mistake and he was lured into it, secondly he was a teenager (juvenile).

    I know what happens in a bank, but cricket is not banking, and if we can forgive one person for his several mistakes (Asif, Afridi, Shoaib Akhtar, Gibbs, Shane Warne, many others) we can always make an exception for a talented teenager’s first mistake.

    I am yet to read what ‘Switch Hitting’ is. 😦

  11. #11 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 2, 2012 - 5:40 PM

    Munir

    You want to say the last word and have a laugh then please go ahead and do so because, you have already pre-emptied your written ammunition, which in your opinion — since it is loaded, it needs to be fired. — And you already have. I don’t want to go deeper in it but I would like to remind you that you have still not answered my question about your firm prediction that Pakistan would have won with a meager lead of just 144? Instead you are asking a question to avoid my question. Never mind. 😀

    Switch hitting is when a batsman for e.g., left hand batsman stands still and the moment the bowler delivers the ball, he changes his stance like a right hand batsman and plays the shot, it is akin to the Ulti-Reverse-Sweep, but this one is hit and not a sweep. If it is connected well, it goes for a four or, even a six. The advantage to the batsman is he finds an empty spot (say vacant legslip, fine leg or deep fine leg) and plays his shot in that area, the shot is pretty safe because there is no fielder in that area. Samaj Ayee?

    On, Aamir we will discuss later, I got to go now.

  12. #12 by Raju reporter on February 3, 2012 - 9:03 AM

    Regardless of what one says, it is evident now pk cant play on seamy pitches. We have been too harsh on india but i dare say pk would have also lost 8-0. Its a simple case of scheduling where pk benefitted amd india got caught. If india would have played in gulf,it would have also beaten england.

  13. #13 by Raju reporter on February 3, 2012 - 10:01 AM

    Cool XI out for 99.

    Aray, cool ne lead from the front nahi kya.

    Ya phir cool ko kawnfydance hae ke bowler 72 par out kardein gaye.

  14. #14 by Raju reporter on February 3, 2012 - 12:33 PM

    What? India wins!

    Congrats dhobi

    finally they win someting DOWNUNDER!

    Hmm….this sentence worth censoring ❓ 😉

  15. #15 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 3, 2012 - 12:41 PM

    Finally India won a match after losing 14 matches abroad. The previous T20 should have been won by them because, the Australian T20 team is new and inexperienced whereas, India with Sehwag, Gambhir, Dhoni, Kohli, Sharma and Raina are well known T20 players. And, I dunno how long Shaun Marsh will continue to play and keep scoring zeros? This win should be a moral booster for them to play and win the remaining ODI’s in the tri-series.

  16. #16 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 3, 2012 - 12:53 PM

    Raju

    I have been saying this for a long time that this Pakistani batting line up is very vulnerable and if you look at the recent past, even against the minnows they have not posted a big total and by big I mean 375 – 400 and not 500-600 runs. The openers Hafeez and Taufiq score a 50 once in a blue moon. Azhar Ali, Younus Khan (totally out of form) may score a 50 in 100 innings? Misbah — a lot has been said about him, he is either out under 10 or remains not out with a 50 plus in 150 balls. Asad Shafiq is a 30~40 player and that’s it. So, the batting line is very weak. They have won because of the two spinners and a couple of good performances from Umar Gul. This team cannot stand against fast bowlers on fast seaming wickets. If the spinners are ineffective on those wickets, the opposition will muster them.

    It seems like the big names of English side such as Pietersen, Bell, Morgan are unable to handle Ajmal and Abdur Rahman. England are 90/5 with their Captain still on 35. Prior, Broad and Swann can be useful batsmen if not strangled by the spinners now.

  17. #17 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 3, 2012 - 1:47 PM

    Munir

    On the subject of Aamir getting a heroes welcome in Pakistan after serving jail sentence, doesn’t it sound ridiculous unless someone is blindfolded or dumbfounded? To compare spot fixing and match fixing with ball chewing, pitch scuffing or bat raising with taking money and deliberately losing the match is senseless, immoral and dishonest act. And, there is a huge difference between the two acts.

    A few years ago, on this blog we have posted a video of Manoj Prabhakar chewing the ball and pulling out a piece of leather and spitting it out, search in the archives and you will find it because, that website has now removed that video. Since Manoj Prabhakar is not so famous as Afridi is, therefore, people say “Oh leave that MF Ch2 alone.” Who cares about him? Why not? He used to be India’s front line bowler at that time and he was also caught on the camera in Wellington, New Zealand.

    Pitch has been scuffed by many players this is not the first time that Afridi did, players were warned for using the spikes and even banned from the match. There are dozen such cases but, no one made any fuss but, because Afridi is famous besides he is a Pakistani (Karela vo bhee neem cherha) the stories sell well on cheap tabloids and cheap TV channels.

    Have you heard about this? India’s test opening batsman Sudhir Naik (used to open with Gavaskar) was caught on camera at Marks & Spencer a London Department Store stealing a pair of socks.

    Raising a cricket bat at a spectator? I saw that live, he was holding his bat from the blade and not the handle, meaning he was carrying the bat from the middle part and that gesture was a simple ‘hush’ because the spectator was abusing personally and calling him a “Paki” which is a racial slur and a banned word. Since the WC was due, they thought of banning him for 4 matches??

    Do you remember Inzamam went and clubbed a spectator in Toronto? That guy was constantly abusing him verbally first as Aloo and then something more. Inzamam was fielding nearby and he asked one of his non playing team mates to bring a cricket bat which he did and Inzamam jumped into the crowd went up 5-6 rows and clubbed him. There was no fine, no ban.

    In 1980 during the Fourth Test between Pakistan and the West Indies at the Multan Cricket Stadium, after being pelted with oranges, Sylvester Clarke throws a brick into the crowd, seriously injuring a spectator. Shafiq was the name of the spectator he nearly died of brain injury. Clarke did not even apologize.

    Michael Holding holier than thou, who is now a commentator-cum-preacher, kicked the wickets against an umpiring decision:

    Munir — ALL these things are acceptable by the people and the authorities that it happens in the heat of the moment. BUT, deliberately planning to lose by taking money is a crime and once a person is labelled as a criminal that it is a taboo, it cannot be removed. Pakistan is the only country where Wasim Akram, Waqar Younus and Mushtaq Mohammad have been released on account of their celebrity status. And, you can see what happened after that? Had they been punished and banned for life there would have been NO Asif, NO Amir and NO Salman Butt today!

  18. #18 by Raju reporter on February 3, 2012 - 2:00 PM

    What has been mishap’s contribution as a batsman?

    No one talks about that. All we hear is how he INSPIRES others. Crap!

    If a batsman scores,its due to mishap.if bowler takes wickets,its mishap.now it will be claimed a rehman was inspired by mishap. Haha 😆

    i wonder if immi,inzi, akram would have been capt,what would have happened. Pk always has good spinners and to credit a batting captain for this is ANDHAA ISHQ OR TC.

  19. #19 by Raju reporter on February 3, 2012 - 5:01 PM

    a reduce a icc a ban

    waqqa wants icc to reduce ban on aamir

    aray bhai sazaa kyu di thi, bachaa gtha jaaney detey.

    choron ka mulk hae, corruption sab ka haque hae

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/03/younis-urges-icc-to-reduce-amir-ban.html

    cricket mein bhi NRO jaisa law hona chaiye 😉

  20. #20 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 3, 2012 - 7:37 PM

    Imran Khan na huway NaoZooBilla BagarBilla ho gaye! According to Waqar, if Imran has praised him then there must be something in him? What a load of Cow Dung. How can these people utter such words from their mouth. Waqar himself is a “Pardonee Product” jisko moaf kiya gaya thaa and he wants Aamir’s ban to be reduced, why?

  21. #21 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 4, 2012 - 6:06 AM

    “Morning chaps, London here. So here’s my perfectly plausible prediction for the rest of this match: England will rack up 364 with Andrew Strauss and Stuart Broad putting on 240. Then Pakistan will be reduced to 3 for 4 before Adnan Akmal makes the fastest 150 in Test history, helping Pakistan to a lead of 63. England will then be 50 for 0 before losing 8 for 6 runs and somehow Simon Taufel scores the winning runs…Anything can happen in this series.”

    My prediction for the match is England will score 123 a lead of 24 runs and Strauss will remain not out, Pakistan will be all out again for 137 runs……. the next prediction will be tomorrow before the match. 😀

  22. #22 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 4, 2012 - 6:32 AM

    I am not Nostradamus but my predictions are getting closer to what I wrote above. Two wickets have fallen since I predicted and England are 121/8 now and 2 more wickets to go and 2 more runs to make me Nostradamus! 😀

  23. #23 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 4, 2012 - 6:35 AM

    These are Indian commentators on cricinfo after The Broad was given out LBW through DRS:

    “That is just unbelievable…if I was given out lbw like that in a club match i’d probably give up. Outrageous to think that can be given out lbw but that is the huge impact of DRS..”

    To me it sounds like he is echoing His Master’s Voice.

    The commentator’s lamenting and sarcasm continues………. see the following comment below:

    51.3
    Abdur Rehman to Swann, no run, 100.1 kph, Swann down the pitch, trying to flick to leg, gets struck on the pad…why not refer…anything is possible with DRS

  24. #24 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 4, 2012 - 6:55 AM

    42 runs lead under normal circumstances is nothing threatening but, the pitch is so unpredictable and favouring spinners, this lead could hurt Pakistan. In order to take a lead of 100 they need to score 142 and that is not going to happen. Pakistan’s batting is porous as if their batsmen are playing with a CHUNNI and not with a cricket bat.

    I am not expecting anything from the openers but, if Younus Khan fails again he should be kicked out and asked to go and join TLD Club. (Tendulkar, Laxman, Dravid).

  25. #25 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 4, 2012 - 9:13 AM

    FINALLY, the scores are level at the expense of both openers and that too before 30 runs were on the board. Like I have said, I had no hopes from the openers and they did not disappoint me. Taufeeq Umar is not a player to be included at the national level and Hafeez is also not fit for an opener at test level. He is OK for ODI’s but, not for test and T20. Therefore, the opening conundrum for Pakistan continues and God knows for how long? Seems like there aren’t any reliable openers since a very long time. So far in this series Pakistan won both test matches ONLY because of the bowlers and that may not happen all the time.

    At T20 level you need big bashers like Gayle, Sehwag, Afridi. Earlier I have mentioned about Razzaq as well but on second thought, I don’t think he is that reliable. He plays in two modes either he offers a dead bat or he moves his front foot away and lofts almost every other ball over the long-on and long-off but, that is very rare. Afridi’s confidence as an opener has shattered since he was yo-yo-ed in the team, otherwise all his good scoring has come as an opener. Sehwag’s T20 average is not impressive, Gayle on a few occasions has punished every bowler. So, the point is for T20 a team needs 4 good big hitters at the top order.

  26. #26 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 4, 2012 - 9:41 AM

    et tu Zaka Ashraf?

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/04/pcb-to-conduct-pacers-rehabilitation-zaka-wants-aamir-back-after-serving-ban.html

    Hum kahain usko life banned kero
    PCB kahay usay hum rehabilitate kerenge?

    You cannot take off the stripes from a Zebra, if you do he looks like a Gadha!

  27. #27 by Raju reporter on February 4, 2012 - 10:30 AM

    zaka will give him pshycho help lol!

  28. #28 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 4, 2012 - 3:31 PM

    My predictions were a sarcasm and taunt at the “Morning Chaps, London here,” by the cricinfo commentators but my more serious comments were directed towards Younus Khan in my comment number 24. If he had not played well and not scored a hundred I would have been really cross at him because, he is totally out of form and was posing as a liability in the team. Right when everyone thought his career would be over after the series, he came back to silence his critics with this 115* and a good partnership with Azhar Ali. I am still not happy with the openers as they perform once in a blue moon. Something needs to be done here.

    With a lead of 180 and 8 wickets in hand, Pakistan is in a so-called comfortable position but, still not safe. Because, this partnership has proved that if the batsmen can stay put they can score runs. So, the pitch is not as fragile and dainty as the pundits say. In fact the English comical duo of Bumble and Beefy (Botham) were constantly moaning that Monty and Swann are bowling too fast, they need to bowl more slow. Also, they were lamenting about the DRS as if this is the first time the DRS has been implemented and it is made in Pakistan? Rubbish.

    Three more days of cricket left, plenty of runs can be scored and 18 wickets to be taken therefore, Pakistan must try to gain a lead of as many runs as possible to make sure they don’t lose the match. England have everything to lose. Even if they draw this match, the series is won by Pakistan 2-0 which is enough for SA to get that number one spot in test rankings and England will not get the $175,000 cheque from the ICC. And, I shall be very happy to see that happening.

    The number one ranking went into India’s head and after that they nose dived, losing two test series 4-0 each at England and Australia. And, now England is facing the same taste of the no.1 medicine and they will have tough time in Sri Lanka and India when they go from here.

  29. #29 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 4, 2012 - 3:37 PM

    NewGuy

    Your Dhoni’s Jaddu got a windfall profit, “Dene Wala Chappar Phaar Ker Deta Hai.” That is so true in this case because, this person is not even good to be a 12th man and he is considered as an all-rounder and worth $2 million? Man, this IPL is ruining the game of cricket in India and if this continues, there will be a time that India will be a hopeless team of mediocre players. Wait for the Big 3 to retire (as it is they are next to nothing) and the second tier of M3 i.e., Dhoni, Sehwag and Gambhir also get a kick in the butt, then there will be chaos and BCCI will come back to their senses. Right now Sahara has pulled out and that will be a big financial impact on them, but they seems to be little bothered about the team losing two test series and that too ‘a whitewash’ and for them its like an eyewash.

  30. #30 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 4, 2012 - 3:44 PM

    Raju

    I am really appalled at this statement given by Zaka. Had this come from “The Butt” we would ALL have been covering our noses but this is so sickening and nauseating that the new Chairman of the PCB is acting in the same manner and he wants to give Aamir a heroic welcome by telling in advance i.e., before his arrival that he wants to rehabilitate Aamir and he wants to see him in the team? Zera Dekho tou. Also, the PCB is trying their best to convince the ICC to reduce the ban to one year instead of 5 years.

  31. #31 by NewGuy on February 4, 2012 - 5:46 PM

    JK,

    I have nothing to say on Indian cricket anymore. It is all about money and show business. A player like Ravindra Jadeja who would not make into a Test team is worth 2 million dollars, while a player like VVS Laxman who has played several epic innings has no value even if he is in his prime Test form. Vinay Kumar who is a club level bowler at best is also worth million dollars. Cricket has changed, and it’s not really for the better. Why would I, a purist, want to bother with Indian cricket? I might follow the ODI WC once every four years, beyond that I am done.

  32. #32 by NewGuy on February 4, 2012 - 5:50 PM

    Pakistan is a good position, with YK saving his position in team with a hundred, while also helping Pakistan get into a strong position. Azhar Ali played a good supporting role, although it must be one of the most boring innings to have ever player. The end justifies the means in this case, as it helped Pakistan into a strong position, and there is plenty of time.

    Pakistan should get to a lead of 350 runs to have the game in the bag truly. Even though England may never even get to 200 in last innings against Ajmal and Rahman going by how they are fearful of spinners, Pakistan should not rely on that alone. A lead of 300+ will give bowlers enough runs to play with. This match should be drawn or lost by Pakistan.

  33. #33 by NewGuy on February 4, 2012 - 5:53 PM

    JK,

    The arrogant BCCI thugs will come down hard and heavy, their fall will be as huge as their rise. It is always so. That will come when people turn against the way game is run. The signs are already there. Last time India won 5-0 in ODI series against England, hardly anyone watched. TV ratings were poor for last IPL. Lets see how the IPL goes this time, there will be even less viewers.

  34. #34 by Raju reporter on February 4, 2012 - 6:21 PM

    Jk

    ipl is nothing more than indian paagal league. I have stopped following it as this stupid ten team format is quite tedious.

    Paki boy azhar mahmud has got a contract with some franchise. I read on bbc but i forgot the name. Mahmud got the signing by virtu of british passport.

    Baharhal, its a sardard this whole ipl. I just saw first 2 versions and now its always chenai who wins.

  35. #35 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 5, 2012 - 3:51 AM

    OK NewGuy, I understand your frustration because of Indian team performance, but don’t give up cricket. In 1999 or, whatever year that was when Pakistan lost to Bangladesh in England WC and then the final was between Australia and Pakistan which I am sure was fixed because of the way they played and got out for 130 odd runs. I stopped watching cricket for several years and again last year when Pakistan lost against India in Mohali, I got the Satellite Dish disconnected and I only follow cricket on the Internet. Because, IMO the semifinal — if it was not fixed — there was something definitely wrong about it.

  36. #36 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 5, 2012 - 3:55 AM

    Raju

    I really don’t like IPL and I don’t want any Pakistani player to play for the IPL, in the first one they went and none of them performed well except for that purple hat guy whose worth according to his self proclamation is at least a million dollar and when he was not selected for the second IPL — in fact none of the Pakistani players were selected because of that Mumbai attack — he said something very stupid on the TV show. He said, this is Hindu Mentality (for not selecting any Pakistani) someone should have punched him on his face and said, this is the right mentality that you deserve a punch on your face. He is really a Ch2So4.

  37. #37 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 5, 2012 - 3:58 AM

    Sehwag is not playing, Tendulkar is back. Australia are batting 19/1 Warner is OUT bowled by Vinay Kumar, seems like Warner is also one of Afridi’s protege who scores once in ten matches. At least Afridi has some records this fellow is just new and Hathora Maar.

    Vinay Kumar got Ponting’s wicket too and Aus are 19/2 well there is some ominous start from India, NG curse a little more on Vinay and he will take a few more wickets.

  38. #38 by NewGuy on February 5, 2012 - 4:52 AM

    JK,

    I am not just frustrated with the team performance, if it was performance only then it can be improved, every team goes through hard times and if players, administrators, and selectors, if they do the right things, it can all be corrected. I am looking at the bad attitude from players who won’t take blame, administrators who won’t take responsibility, selectors who have no courage to do right things, and on top of all that importance given to money and mediocrity. These are all the things that caused me to stop bothering with Indian cricket in the first place, long time back in 90’s, then I thought it has improved of late in last decade or so. It was actually only papered over because of world class players who played in their peak performance in last decade. Players like Dravid, Laxman, Tendulkar, Ganguly, Sehwag, Kumble, Zaheer, Harbhajan, all came together at right time and performed in their peak, along with great leader ship from Ganguly, so the flaws in the system were papered over.

    The flaws in system were always there, and they are looking even worse now. Jaddu and Vinay getting millions? I don’t care if this guy picks up all 10 wickets today, he is still only a club level player. Right now conditions are overcast and assisting bowlers. If Australian fast bowlers bowled, India would have been 4 wickets down. So nothing to this 2 wickets he picked up. Guy do not deserve to be near an international team. He is there because of sifarish from Kumble, may be even Mallya the RC guy who is sponsoring him? Money rules Indian cricket.

    ODI / T20 wins cannot compensate for Test losses. I will take Indian team seriously if they can beat England convincingly when they tour India, by at least a margin of 2 Tests.

  39. #39 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 5, 2012 - 12:13 PM

    A target of 324 runs has been set by Pakistan and under the conditions it shouldn’t be difficult for them to beat England by a good margin. The only significant thing that happened in this match is the centuries made by Azhar Ali and Younus Khan. The rest of the performance is extremely pathetic. Misbah has once again proved that he is a NEGATIVE player and a lousy captain. Just look at his strike rate, in the first innings his strike rate is 12 and in the second innings it is 26. How pathetic and how negative one can be?

    No one is asking him to hit SIXES and FOURS, he should simply learn to rotate the strike and get singles and twos instead, he goes on one end and blocks every single ball or plays an entire maiden over. Is this called INSPIRATION and MOTIVATION? The point is once again proved that Pakistan has been winning because of the bowlers and my rant was, the batsmen should also score. In this innings two centuries were made and that made the difference. For example, if the bowlers cannot get wickets in the 4th innings, the target of 324 is achievable. However, that will not be the case after seeing Monty getting 5 wickets. So, the spinners will dominate once again.

  40. #40 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 5, 2012 - 12:22 PM

    NewGuy — I checked the score this morning and saw India failed once again. This time I was laughing @ Jaddu’s luck, he is the guy who got a $2 million IPL contract as an all-rounder and in this match he scored 19 runs but, look at his bowling 2.4 overs 41 runs????

    Tendulkar was supposed to strengthen the team and he was the first one to get out in the second over of the innings and Gambhir was the next to fall adding pressure to the rest of the team and India never recovered from that shock. I was thinking that after Warner and Ponting’s early departure India will dominate but, Wade and the Husseys took the total to some respectability and their bowlers did a good job especially McKay.

    I know you are not interested but, like Ghalib says:

    Kuch nahee hai tou adavat hee sahee

    — meaning; if there is no amiable relationship let there be animosity — So, keep the engine rolling 😀

  41. #41 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 5, 2012 - 12:25 PM

    Raju

    Zara inka bootha aur inki hari, hari whatever tou dekho
    Kinna Sohna iss noo Rab nay banayaaa …. the irony is he is the Interior Minister of Pakistan who cannot even recite Surah Akhlas.

    http://www.samaa.tv

  42. #42 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 5, 2012 - 12:57 PM

    England negotiated 19 overs and scored 35 runs without losing a wicket. What is the indication here?

  43. #43 by Raju reporter on February 5, 2012 - 1:35 PM

    Jk

    what has been mishap’s contribution as a batsman in the whole series??

    A good for nothing, selfish, mediocrite taking credit for other’s performance.

  44. #44 by NewGuy on February 5, 2012 - 2:20 PM

    JK,

    No point beating a dead horse, i.e, Indian batting. Why repeat same things again and again.

    Eng-Pak match is what I was more interested in. As it is always interesting to see how things unfold over 5 days of Test cricket. Pakistan is in strong position, and I don’t read too much into this unbroken opening partnership so far, because Pakistan would have been little less intense late in the day. They will come back fresh and all it takes is one wicket to open the flood gates. We know England middle order is very weak against spin. Also once Misbah was out, we saw Pakistan lost all their wickets to spin for very few runs.

    There is turn on the pitch, and once one of these openers are out, it will be tough for England to bat on. With two days to go, there will be result. It needs a miracle for England to chase down 324 against the bowling that they are having nightmares in every innings.

    Lets all wait for the final nail.

  45. #45 by Raju reporter on February 5, 2012 - 4:25 PM

    there was a massive partnership btw younus and azhar ali. infact that partnership consolidated pk’s hold on the match and the rest of the partnerships dont hold that much significance.

  46. #46 by Raju reporter on February 5, 2012 - 4:31 PM

    Captain Coool or Sick selfish

    Panesar removed Misbah for 31 as the Pakistan skipper was trapped lbw for the fifth time in the series and, for the fifth time, wasted a review attempting to overturn the decision.

    this para was taken from here

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/16894101

    infact in a previous test adnan akmal didnt refer when one review was left as mishaps was batting with him. It seems PLAYER POWER is finally broken.

  47. #47 by Raju reporter on February 5, 2012 - 4:43 PM

    jk

    read this sms from a fan on BBC

    From Molana in Birmingham: “Misbah seems a v. selfish captain, can someone tell me how many times he has asked for a review when he’s given out?!”

    fan’s msg is available here

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/16887687

    I had chat with few peolpe today and almost everybody said that its mainly contribution of bowlers and batsmen today which is helping pk win. yet we see no credit to YK or ali for sekdra and focus is all mishap.

    atleast it provwes its not a few bloggers here on this site who feel selfishness is a trait of this player + negativity.

    why wickets didnt fell when yk and ali were batting; no flood gates at that time!

    anyweay, yk is eons better than mishap!

  48. #48 by Raju reporter on February 5, 2012 - 4:45 PM

    once again tendulkar flopped and india lost haevily

    well i guess srilanka may prove an easier task and finally it would be the mother of all senkdras.

  49. #49 by Raju reporter on February 5, 2012 - 4:57 PM

    jk

    azhar mahmud is playing ipl

    will u consider him a paki or british?

    indians would consider him paki

  50. #50 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 6, 2012 - 6:12 AM

    Raju

    Azhar Mahmud is a spent force it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks or considers about him. If you make Hina stripes on a black dawg that doesn’t make the dawg a tiger, does it? You take Wasim Chakram’s case, he doesn’t have a Brit PP and he is a 100% Paki yet he is the coach of CoalCutta Noit Ryders….. mais pour quoi?

    As regards Misbah’s slow strike rate and selfishness his supporters may not see it the way the others see him. All of Misbah’s life the lady luck turned her back and when Moulana Yousuf was dropped from the first T20 WC she smiled at Misbah and he was picked up in his place and, he became famous. Since then she is adoring him and worshiping him and he just one lucky Custard starting with a “B” this is akin to how Dhoni shot to stardom after his first 148 against Pakistan in 2004-05 series.

  51. #51 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 6, 2012 - 6:20 AM

    NewGuy

    I don’t understand about Yuvraj’s case. First the news was, it is some kinda lung problem, then they said, there was a cyst, then they said it needs to be checked if it is benign or, malignant. Fair enough. Now, it is confirmed that it is malignant — as far as I know any cancerous tumor is malignant. And, now they are saying he will be fine and fit to play cricket in May 2012. What I don’t understand is without operating or without even seeing it from inside (because, you cannot get lymph glands diagnosed) how come they are arriving at a decision and being so optimistic? Obviously, his parents are devastated and not commenting but, why is the media so enthusiastic and optimistic? This is not a cricket match that you can be optimistic and say, Oh, we can win. This is something serious and any news about him must be authentic and official. The media is simply trying to cover a story that sells. And, this is bad. It is not just cricket, it is against the morals and ethics of journalism. But, do they care? aNO.

  52. #52 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 6, 2012 - 6:26 AM

    NewGuy

    Strauss is OUT lets see if the flood gates open? Let us see how KP and Ian rings the Bell?

  53. #53 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 6, 2012 - 6:56 AM

    Raju

    Here is what Rashid Latif talking about PK cricket team and it is not different from what we have been discussing.
    http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/02/self-belief-working-for-pakistan-but-batting-techniques-must-improve.html

    He is hinting for a new ODI captain, he may not have said this if Afridi was leading the ODI and T20 team for Pakistan, but Misbah being a buddah, he has hinted it out. But, the PCB has blinkers on their eyes and they will do exactly what the BCCI is doing — IGNORE.

  54. #54 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 6, 2012 - 7:01 AM

    There is some improvement in this 3rd test between England and Pakistan and i.e., this is the first test of the series that has gone beyond the third day! So far 13 overs have been bowled today, one wicket has fallen and 30 runs scored added and Ajmal has NOT YET bowled a single over. Its been only Umar Gul and Abdur Rahman so far. Three maiden overs on a Trot.

  55. #55 by Mohammed Munir on February 6, 2012 - 10:06 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Correction … second test match also went to day four, so this is not first but second test to go beyond third day.

  56. #56 by Mohammed Munir on February 6, 2012 - 12:05 PM

    Javed Khan …

    We all know that cricket is always a game of chance and for anyone to succeed at this levels some involvement of lady-luck is always needed, in fact, I won’t be totally out of place to say that everyone needs lady-luck in their life, cricketer or no cricketer.

    So what if Misbah and Dhoni have befriended with lady-luck ❓

    Hope you are not feeling jealous or anything ❓ 😉

    BTW, same lady-luck is also favouring Afridi big time right from day-one of his entire career, otherwise a guy who came in the team only to temporary replace a leg-spinner (Mushtaq Ahmed) would not scored a fastest ODI century taking only 37 balls and he could not have become a permanent player for the greens. 😉

    I think lady-luck have played much bigger role in Afridi’s career then Misbah’s, but yes, today she is closer to Misbah. 😀

  57. #57 by Raju reporter on February 6, 2012 - 12:19 PM

    jk

    i read latif’s article but question is when pk will tour aus, sa or eng?

    its not 2012. in 2012 its only srilanka!

    but at least im happy to see latif talking about something else t5hen farting about match fixing!

    its 237/8 and it looks a CKEAN SWEEP

    now if sa beats newzealand 3-0, england will lose no1 spot- difficult because in NZ you have many weather stoppages.

    I think the luckiest person in pk now is zardari- from hell to heaven.

    how long the honeymonn will be is worth thinking

    rite now gillani boy is about to get srewed.

  58. #58 by Raju reporter on February 6, 2012 - 12:21 PM

    nine gone

    wholl be man of series. its a contest btw ajmal and a rehman

  59. #59 by Mohammed Munir on February 6, 2012 - 1:12 PM

    GREAT ACHIEVEMENT BY TEAM PAKISTAN …

    CONGRATULATIONS FOR ALL PAKISTANI FANS AND THEIR WELL-WISHERS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.

  60. #60 by NewGuy on February 6, 2012 - 1:44 PM

    It’s all over. 3-0 white wash to world #1 Team from upcoming and underrated Pakistan.

    Brilliant performance overall by Pakistan team under an unassuming yet strong captain. I have always said lets wait until Pakistan play against England before passing off wins over minnows as either great or just nothing. It was proven that they were neither. Of course there are improvements to be made, but which team does not have improvements to be made.

    England after becoming #1 team could not even complete one series before getting whitewashed, I wonder how Beefy Botham, Bob Billy et all are feeling now.

    I think England played in last innings better because the pitch eased out, but there was no way they were going to win, because it was hard for batsmen to stay at crease for long periods.

    Ajmal had a terrific series, so did Rehman and Gul. In fact all bowlers did well, and the batsmen managed fairly well.

    Pakistan will be hard to beat so long as they can retain the hunger and remain solid under one captain and coach. It is always the internal problems that cause Pakistan’s down fall. Hope they keep this going.

    As for English, well they better learn to play spin, because their two tours are SL and India. I think there is also an Ashes in between this summer? That should be interesting since Australia seems to be on the up.

  61. #61 by Raju reporter on February 6, 2012 - 5:57 PM

    England following india’s path- white washed as #1.

    Shame 😛

    i always felt australia was genuine no1 in last decade as they virtually won everywhere-spin,pace etc.

    England have 2 tough series against india and sl and both specially india wants blood.

    Even at home they have sout africa who are aspirants to their throne so in all england have a tough year.

    Pk has a very easy year and they wont tour england in 2013 as ashes wil take place. So only 2 tough jobs asian teams find are australia and south africa and then we’l find whether pk has become strong enough to win there.

    Anyway,humiliation for world #1. No harm in losing but whitewash is never ok. 6 more tests on spin wkts and it looks 4-0 or 5-1 to me.

  62. #62 by Raju reporter on February 6, 2012 - 7:43 PM

    ijaz butt would be elated rite now

    his chaaaice and his puttar has dafyted anglaind, tukka lag gaya!

    o jeooo mere laaaaaaaaaal!

    mere kheeeeray 😎

  63. #63 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 6, 2012 - 9:34 PM

    Munir

    Why would I feel jealous and for what? Didn’t you read my comments? (in the previous thread) After the result of the first test I wrote on the blog that I want Pakistan to win the series, so that the English team should not get the $175,000 cheque from the ICC for being the No.1 test team in the world. You kept thinking, not just thinking but believing that I am some kinda anti-Pakistani cricket fan or whatever. I also wrote that despite the fact that I don’t like Misbah’s negative style batting and captaincy, I want Pakistan to win the series by a margin of at least 2-0. And, I am glad that they beat them 3-0. Congratulations to Team Pakistan for winning the series and creating records. Having said all that my views are still unchanged and that is my concern about Pakistan’s batting.

    Pakistan’s spin duo i.e., Ajmal and Abdur Rahman won this series and only briefly in this last test and in the second innings that Younus Khan and Azhar Ali put up a decent, match winning second innings partnership on a wicket that was easing off. If they had not scored centuries, Pakistan would have definitely lost this 3rd test despite spinners heroics.

    English selectors are not just stupid but, they are biased too. Because, they brought Monty Panesar in the team and did not select him for the first test. Their first choice spinner is G. Swann — and Swann has taken more wickets than Panesar in the past — because, Swann played more matches than Panesar. And in these 2 test Panesar played, he took 14 wickets which is one more than Swann’s 13 in 3 tests. In fact Panesar is the highest wicket taker for England in just 2 tests. I feel sorry for Monty for getting that biased and step brotherly treatment, but he is more worthy as a bowler than many other English bowlers. Also, he is more handsome looking than ALL other English players, still the English media tries to ridicule him (especially for his fielding) and considers him as a court-jester in the team.

  64. #64 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 6, 2012 - 9:41 PM

    Saeed Ajmal took 24 wickets in this 3 match test series which is second best for Pakistan. The first being Abdul Qadir’s 30 wickets in 3 test series in England in 1987-88 and remember there was no DRS at that time.

    Talking of DRS, India is the only country that does not approve DRS and i.e., because Dhoni managed to convince the BCCI that it is not in India’s favour. Whereas, DRS is fair and unbiased and it helps the umpires in taking the right decisions and eliminates biased umpiring to a ‘great’ extent. In this world there is NO such thing as perfect, except for Allah. So, people should accept what is fair and unbiased.

    With Dhoni’s charming charisma is over after 8 straight losses and two whitewashed series defeat, India will perhaps reconsider using DRS and that will happen when they will shift their focus from the IPL.

  65. #65 by NewGuy on February 6, 2012 - 10:31 PM

    Javed Khan,

    You are right about the step motherly treatment given to Monty Panesar and the jokes they crack on him. I can understand him being side lined and all that based on poor performances, sometimes things like this happens in every team, let alone a bias against the son of an immigrant, however, I have wondered about the jokes they crack about him. Swann was being called a world’s best spinner and all that not long ago, I don’t know based on what, I know he has picked up a lot of wicket against players who can’t play spin, i.e, non-Asian teams, but against India and Pakistan, Swann hasn’t done anything. May be the English were so desperate for a spinner of theirs to be called world class, because OZ had Warne.

    Anyway, this sort of thing happens in countries like England where children of immigrants have to work double hard to prove themselves, even if they are British born and raised. It happens in fact pretty much everywhere to some degree. It is only a question of how obvious they are, in case of English they don’t seem to be hiding it too much.

    It is also a given that the day Monty performs poorly in one or two tests he will be dropped, while Swann will get a longer rope. I think at least from the perspective of children of immigrants like Monty, at least he was able to play for England, where it was not even possible earlier.

  66. #66 by NewGuy on February 6, 2012 - 10:35 PM

    JK,

    If DRS was not used, I think at least one Test this series would have been drawn, there were many LBW decisions umpires otherwise would not have given. In my opinion, this is a good thing, as result is obviously better than draws. DRS makes it interesting. India must also adopt. It is quite deplorable that they alone do not use it and is able to get away with it.

  67. #67 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2012 - 4:01 AM

    NewGuy

    I know about the jokes they crack on Monty simply because he is a Sardar or a turbanotor with a beard. The irony is not just the crowd makes fun of him, even the British commentators try to make fun of him in a subtle manner, whereas it is still obvious to us. And, the reason Swann got that so-called labeling for being the best spinner in the world is because he is not just British but, he is a Gora.

    I agree with you that Swann got wickets against West Indies, New Zealand and even a few against Australia and SA but, his performance in the sub-continent is simply mediocre. I remember reading an article or, an interview may be and it was on the Internet by Nasser Hussain’s dad in which he was making comparison between 3 players i.e., Collingwood, Bell and Owais Shah. He mentioned that talent wise Owais Shah was far more superior than these two and there were two reasons he is not in the England team. One was obvious that is, he is not a Gora.

    Secondly, he lacked the temperament that was needed, he was playing excellent cricket at the county level and when he was not selected he got cheesed off and stopped playing for a while. Again when he performed well and was selected in the team he wasn’t given enough chances and was dropped, although he didn’t score badly but, it was not enough for the English selectors and they replaced him and he got frustrated and again stopped playing. He even went to the IPL.

    Of late, Collingwood was performing so badly that finally they had to drop him after giving him umpteenth number of chances. Now, Bell and Pietersen are doing the same but, they will not be dropped, like you’ve said, they extend the rope for such players.

  68. #68 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2012 - 4:04 AM

    On DRS, it is India’s loss if they don’t use the technology and I wonder what makes Dhoni feel about the DRS that he opposes it so strongly? And, the BCCI buffoons should use their grey matter and decide instead of listening to this dumb headed captain. Of course DRS makes cricket interesting and not only that, they should try to get the HOT-SPOT tech. as well, never mind if it is expensive after all they earn hundreds of millions of dollars from sponsorship and TV rights etc., so why not spend on technology to make the game fair and square?

  69. #69 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2012 - 6:42 AM

    HUM TOU DOOBAY HAIN SANAM TUMHE BHEE LAY DOOBAINGAY

    ISLAMABAD: Supreme Court (SC) has taken up an application against the potential sacking of Army Chief Kayani and the ISI Chief Pasha as maintainable, SAMAA reports Tuesday.

    A three-judge SC bench headed by Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Iftikhar Muhammed Chaudhry heard the petition concerning the objections leveled by the Registrar regarding the potential dismissal of Chief of the Army Staff (COAS) General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani and Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief Lieutenant General Ahmed Shuja Pasha from their offices.

    The Chief Justice Chaudhry remarked the appeal against the order of the registrar is heard at the chamber; but, keeping in view the import of the matter, the appeal has been put forward before a bench to elicit the opinion of the Attorney General.

    The Attorney General of Pakistan Maulvi Anwarul Haq said he has done away with some of the objections; and the arguments regarding the maintainability of the plea should be left to the parties to the case.

    The court ordered to present the appeal before any bench for hearing. SAMAA.TV

  70. #70 by Raju reporter on February 7, 2012 - 1:04 PM

    Ajmal’s ch2apa

    he has told BBC that he’s permitted to bend 23.5 degree arm.

    Allowable limit is 15 degree and clarification has been issued but i guess it may spell trouble.

    News on cricinfo website.

  71. #71 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 7, 2012 - 4:11 PM

    hahaha HE PLACED A MENGHNI IN THE MILK.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/16913638

    Just look at his ch2yapay ka confidence.
    Shouldn’t the PCB appoint a media manager and ask him to speak instead of these Paindoos blabbering rubbish and ruining the good work they have done?

  72. #72 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2012 - 12:04 AM

    This is why I dislike MISBAH. He has requested to include Shoaib Malik in the ODI and T20 squad. Once again he is indulging into politics, there is no need to get that Ch2ya Malak into the team, we have seen him scoring almost zilch in the last few matches he played he hardly reached double figures. Misbah wants to create a clout around him earlier it was the same gang of Kamran Akmal, Salman Butt, Shoaib Malik, Rana Naveed, Misbah and NOW he is again playing politics.

    Besides, Malak being a Sialkoti is a real baysharam he keeps getting into the team through parchees which his wife gets it for him.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-england-2012/content/story/552425.html

  73. #73 by NewGuy on February 8, 2012 - 12:32 AM

    Will Irfan Pathan get a game this tour? That is the question many Indian supporters are asking after waiting for long time for his return. Now, I am not sure good Irfan is now, but he can’t be worse than million dollar man Vinay Koomar, can he? Irfan also is a million dollar man if we go by IPL.

    The real question is, will he get a game while Dhoni is captain. Why is Dhoni keeping him away, while giving chances to rookies like Rahul Sharma, his favorite Jaddu, and Vinay Koomar. Dhoni said we don’t have a fast bowling all rounder, then what is Irfan, is he a spin bowler. He can bat better than Jaddu for sure.

    Anyway let’s see if Dhoni will give him a chance at the WACA which should suit seam bowlers, or will he throw Irfan to the wolves at Adalaide against Australia on a flat batting pitch.

    Dhoni is appearing like a scheming guy, behind that cool psuedo exterior, and all that mumbo jumbo talk.

  74. #74 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2012 - 6:26 AM

    LOL NewGuy, you can see what Dhoni is doing, but you cannot see what Misbah is doing? The only reason Misbah is getting away from criticism in general is because the team is winning and no matter how, as long as the team is winning the gnikcuf Captain gets the credit.

    Dhoni definitely has a personal grudge against Irfan Pathan and it seems like he has corned Dhoni in one of the social gatherings or, he may have attempted to steal one of his girls or whatever that Dhoni did not like and Dhoni not only plays cool like Misbah, he is a Meesna like Shoaib Malak. So, he is a combo of both — Karela Vo bhee Neem Charra — Karela is a veggie; bitter gourd and it is sour, it grows on a creeper and the Neem Tree fruit is also sour so, the expression is if that creeper climbs up the Neem tree it is like — Sonay Pay Suhaga — oh Gosh, yet another expression to be explained to you? 😀 I dunno how to explain this one, because I dunno the exact meaning or the context in which the word Suhaga is used? Raju if you know please explain.

  75. #75 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2012 - 6:32 AM

    Chandimal is a pretty reliable player for SL, I dunno much about him but, I have seen him scoring consistently and scoring decent. On a few occasions he has halted the opposition by playing an anchor role and avoiding the slide. Right now he is doing the same. After Dilshan and Sangakara were out he is building a partnership with Jayawardene, the Capitaan of the team. Sri Lanaka are slow at the moment after 33 overs they are only 136/3 an average of 4.21 that means they can hardly cross 250 and that should be an easy target for India. Unless Tendulkar gets stuck with his 100 and Sehwag goes out early and Dhoni gets attracted by his blue eyed boy and goes back to the pavilion early etc., etc.

  76. #76 by Mohammed Munir on February 8, 2012 - 8:22 AM

    Javed Khan …

    I agree with you that Malik is gone and there is absolutely no justification in bringing him back specially with good young talent around. That said, we all know very well what kind of clout Malik have and how strong he can be due to his background and political strings. So it is very much possible that Misbah is “forced” due to political and other pressures to have Malik included back in the team. But you will never like to give this benefit of doubt to Misbah.

    Furthermore, from what I remember, Shahid Afridi was the one who insisted for inclusion of Shoaib Malik in the World Cup squad and he fought with PCB favouring Malik. I also remember Afridi saying that Malik is a very useful all-rounder for Asian pitches.

    But you never seemed to have ‘disliked’ Afridi for that … so why cursing Misbah now ❓

    Why there are separate rules for Misbah and Afridi ❓

  77. #77 by Mohammed Munir on February 8, 2012 - 8:26 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Your comment no. 63 …

    You said … After the result of the first test I wrote on the blog that I want Pakistan to win the series, so that the English team should not get the $175,000 cheque from the ICC for being the No.1 test team in the world.

    To be frank, doesn’t it sound from about statement as if you want Pakistan to win not because you like them to win, but simply because you dislike England more and you want England to loose no. 1 spot and that $ 175K purse ❓

    Seems like feelings of ‘disliking’ are way stronger than ‘liking’. But yes you are right, you wanted Pakistan to win for whatever reasons and the end result is the same. 😉

  78. #78 by Raju reporter on February 8, 2012 - 9:22 AM

    Jk

    meesna is back due to pawaa of butt junior. This is sheer parchipan and mishap has problems with afridi. I dont buy the malik siyasi pawaa because if that was the case he would have been capt instead of mishap.
    Its all mishap groupbandi and malak is now becoming 2nd mansur akhtar or malishya of mishap.

  79. #79 by Raju reporter on February 8, 2012 - 10:21 AM

    sonay pey shuga

    hmmm…

    icing on the cake??

    hozthat

  80. #80 by Raju reporter on February 8, 2012 - 10:24 AM

    senkdraa phir rooth gaya

    tendukar baskar!

  81. #81 by Raju reporter on February 8, 2012 - 10:39 AM

    shafqy starts farting again

    he rates the clean sweep bigger than wins in 1987 against india and england.

    well send pk to india and eng and lets see how they fare; whether they win 1-0 or not

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/552459.html

  82. #82 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2012 - 4:57 PM

    Munir

    Please don’t respond just for the sake of attacking or arguing before you say something please also weigh what you are about to say? When Afridi requested Butt for Malik, at that time the team was very weak and, even he was not nominated as captain of the touring team till the last moment. However when he asked for Malik’s inclusion it was based on Malik’s past performance.

    And, Malik was in Misbah’s team and played every single match against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh and he could not reach double figures against Minnows, which confirms that his form with cricket as well as Mirza ji was zilch. And, he was dropped by the selectors purely on the basis of performance. Now, that Misbah has earned some so-called respect because of winning 3-0 against England he has used his card to get his maalishiya and chukkiya in.

    What is the need of him getting in when Hammad Azam is included? Just to make Azam sit outside on the benches like he was treated by YK in the T20 WC. In fact you are showing your LAO with Masba-hahaha by admiring and adoring his every single move.

  83. #83 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2012 - 5:03 PM

    Munir

    You can draw any meaning from my statements because, a mind can only see what it is prepared to see, you only see Mashab as an”ANGLE.”

    I never said, Pakistan should lose for whatever reasons your mind may tell you that. BUT, ON THIS BLOG YOU HAVE SAID before that you want Pakistan team to lose so badly that IJAZ BUTT’s regime should end and also you wanted some players out of the team and for that also you have said, I want Pakistan to lose.

    DO YOU WANT ME TO DIG OUT THOSE COMMENTS FROM THE ARCHIVES OR, YOU RETRIEVE YOUR COMMENT? And, that will mean you will be chewing your words are you ready for that? Check your Microsoft Word file i.e., where you store your comments before shooting them in the air.

  84. #84 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2012 - 5:06 PM

    Raju

    Yeah you are right, it is icing on the cake and in Meesna’s case, he is a flea on the gobar ka cake! 😀

    His sifarish is very strong its like, Monica Seles double handed service with a grunt!

    Hai Vo saikda jo unn say rooth gayaa… ab uska haal sunayain kya?

  85. #85 by Raju reporter on February 8, 2012 - 5:58 PM

    Lol

    from kheera to gobar ka cake.

    All of us pretty well know how mediocrites become arrogant when they get success like dhobi.

    So how gobar cashes it,by asking for flea malik. Haha.

    Aadmi apni auqat ke mutabiq mangta hae.abey butt ki nishani mangna tha to koi badri demand mangta,ye ghatya sania hi rah gaeti.

    Yak na shud,do shud 😉

  86. #86 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 8, 2012 - 10:32 PM

    Ajmal’s ch2yapa created unnecessary uproar, on cricinfo just on one article on that subject and within 24 hours there were 774 comments asking questions, raising doubts, criticizing his action, supporting his action from negative to positives and beyond.

    I don’t understand what was the need for him to blab? In fact the guy who was interviewing him, he did not even ask that question, Ajmal simply got carried away and started blabbering. Also, he thinks he is a British born Pakistani by putting up a fake accent and saying, MAAN, MAAN in between. Today, one paindoo said, “Acchi Anglish Bolta Hai Ajmal.” I said yeah, you are right. There are so many here who think Wasim and Waqar speaks like Britishers and Australians. Waqar because of his Australian wife and Wasim because of his county experience! Huh !

    Aur kya maang putty bana ker aya tha Ajmal for that interview ! LOL.

  87. #87 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2012 - 6:18 AM

    Why is Zimbabwe playing international cricket? A team like NZ are thrashing them left, right and center with SIXES and FOURS and beating them with a huge margin. Whereas, our Missy Baba team barely managed to win with narrow margins.

    The batting needs to be strengthened — The batting needs to be strengthened — The batting needs to be strengthened — The batting needs to be strengthened — The batting needs to be strengthened — The batting needs to be strengthened ……… infinity !

  88. #88 by Mohammed Munir on February 9, 2012 - 7:49 AM

    Javed Khan …

    It is not Missy Baba’s father’s team, this is Pakistani team. Similarly, it was never Afridi’s team, it was always Team Pakistan.

    On “The batting needs to be strengthened”, well, we all know the problems, it will be more usefull if you can suggest some reasonable solutions. 😦

  89. #89 by Mohammed Munir on February 9, 2012 - 9:27 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Ohhh so Afridi requested Butt to include Malik for the love of ‘Langri-Looli’ team, well then this also qualifies as his “Patriotism” … right ❓

    Same way when Afridi mistreated Hammad Azam and kept him sitting out, that too would have been done for the love of the country. It was not only YK, but Afridi also kept him out of playing eleven along with Waqar. But you can blame anyone from YK to Misbah to Waqar to Malik to Butt to entire PCB in your undying LAO of Afridi by covering and supporting his every move (mistake).

    And what about repeatedly giving umpteen numbers of chances to that young rude guy, Shahzeb or Shahzad (whatever), in a World Cup when Afridi was captain, I am sure Afridi did all that also for love of the country, Theek Hai Balkay Bilkul Theek Hai.

    I am sure Afridi negotiated with and dropped his cases against Ijaz Butt also in the wider interest of the country and Pakistan cricket. 😉

    On Butt, please don’t put yourself through searching the archives, I am not denying, yes agreed I did say that for removal of Butt I would like Pakistan to loose. Although, if I remember correctly, Pakistan lost few games and I said something like they should loose remaining games if this helps in removal of Butt. This was more like, we can give a small sacrifice for removal of bigger devil (Butt) at that time. However, today the situation have completely changed and PCB and Pakistan cricket is on much better standing, in fact it is in one of the best positions in long time. So even if Pakistan lost 4-0 or still worst, your dream of removing Misbah from captainship and bring Shahid Afridi back will still remain only a dream. 😛

    On the positive note, Afridi (and his fans) should not loose heart because he is much younger and time is on his side, so once Misbah respectably retires from international cricket, Afridi can always come back and captain the ‘Langri-Looli’ team once again, that is if he have not retired a few times by then. 😀

    But if you really and sincerely believe that Misbah is as bad for Pakistan cricket as Ijaz Butt, well then I think there is absolutely no need for any further discussions on this, and all I can say is that … “a mind can only see what it is prepared to see”, and you only see Misbah as a DEVIL and Afridi as an “ANGLE”. 😆

    Pakistan’s ODI & T20 squad …

    ODIs: Misbah-ul-Haq (capt), Younis Khan, Shahid Afridi, Mohammad Hafeez, Imran Farhat, Umar Akmal, Asad Shafiq, Adnan Akmal (wk), Junaid Khan, Umar Gul, Aizaz Cheema, Saeed Ajmal, Abdur Rehman, Wahab Riaz, Hammad Azam, Azhar Ali, Shoaib Malik.

    Twenty20s: Misbah-ul-Haq (capt), Shahid Afridi, Mohammad Hafeez, Imran Farhat, Umar Akmal, Asad Shafiq, Adnan Akmal (wk), Junaid Khan, Umar Gul, Aizaz Cheema, Saeed Ajmal, Abdur Rehman, Wahab Riaz, Hammad Azam, Awais Zia, Shoaib Malik.

    Including Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq for ODIs doesn’t sound a good idea since they are both too slow. Imran Farhat can also be replaced by Nasir Jamshed in ODIs and Imran Nazir in T20s, but we all know where Imran Farhat’s support and backing is coming from and no matter what happens he will play as long as his father-in-law is involved.

    Junaid and Cheema have not done anything in Tests except for one wicket between them in 3 full Tests, and so they can be replaced with Wahab Riaz who can even bat better then both of them thus is more suitable for shorter version. That is, off course, if there are no other issues with Riaz. 😦

    There is a Pakistan Vs Afghanistan one-off ODI which is going to be played at Sharjah Cricket Stadium on Friday 10.02.1012, which shall work as a warm-up before official start of our ODIs/ T20s games against England.

    PS: It is start of our weekend and there is a game on Friday, so see you next week. 😉

  90. #90 by Mohammed Munir on February 9, 2012 - 9:37 AM

    HARD (to digest) FACTS …

    England started the series as favourites following their 4-0 result against India, but on spin-friendly surfaces Pakistan were clearly the superior team, completing their first whitewash of England. Here are some of the key stats from the third Test and the series that illustrate Pakistan’s highs and England’s lows.

    – Pakistan completed their first ever whitewash of England, and their fifth overall in series of three or more matches. It is also their first whitewash since their 3-0 win against Bangladesh in 2003. It was the second time a subcontinent team whitewashed England; they lost 3-0 in India in 1993. Overall, they have lost all Tests in a series (minimum three matches) on seven occasions, including three series against Australia and two against West Indies. For the second time in eight months (the first being India’s series in England), the No. 1 Test team has lost all Tests in a series.

    Pakistan became the first team in over 100 years to win a Test after scoring less than 100 in the first innings of the match. The last time this occurred was when England scored 76 but still defeated South Africa in 1907. It is also the ninth time overall that a team has won despite a score of less than 100 in the first innings.

    England’s batting average of 19.06 in the series is the second-lowest for them in a series of three or more matches, and the lowest since 1888. It is also the lowest average for any team in a series of three or more matches against Pakistan. England’s average fell below 30 for the first time in their last seven series (three or more Tests).

    No England batsman scored a century in the three-match series. This is the first time since the 1999 series against New Zealand and the eighth time overall that England have failed to score a single century in a series of three or more matches.

    – Pakistan’s win had a lot to do with the performance of their spinners. They picked up 48 wickets in the series at an average of 15.64. This is the highest number of wickets taken by Pakistan spinners in a three-Test series with the previous highest being 45 against England in 1987-88. The average of the Pakistan spinners (15.64) is the second-best in a series of three-plus matches against England. The series also witnessed 75 wickets falling to spin. Only twice before have spinners picked up more wickets in a three-Test series.

    Saeed Ajmal finished the series with a haul of 24 wickets. His tally is fifth on the list of most wickets taken by a Pakistan bowler in a three-Test series and the second-highest by a spinner after Abdul Qadir, who picked up 30 against England in 1987-88. Abdur Rehman ended the series with 19 wickets at 16.73.

    England were dismissed for less than 200 four times in six innings in the series. Since 2005, England have been bowled out for less than 200 more than four times in a series only once, in the Ashes 2006-07 series when they lost 5-0.

    And now the best part …

    MISBAH-UL-HAQ WON HIS NINTH TEST AS CAPTAIN. AMONG ALL PAKISTAN CAPTAINS TO HAVE LED IN AT LEAST 15 TESTS, MISBAH’S WIN-LOSS RATIO OF 9.00 IS THE BEST.

    By: Madhusudhan Ramakrishnan @ Cricinfo
    Source: http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-england-2012/content/current/story/552359.html

  91. #91 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2012 - 4:24 PM

    Munir

    Your comment #88 WHO am I to give suggestions? It is those stupid idiots sitting there in the PCB and in the Selection Committee they need to think and they need to decide. If as an outsider, not just me but so many others can see that there is a need to strengthen the batting side, why can’t they think on those lines? Umar Akmal is good for test but, he is being punished in the name of “resting”, Fawad Alam is good but, he is a Karachiite. Hammad Azam is good but, YOU think Afridi doesn’t like him BUT Misbah LOVES him so much that he had to REQUEST for Shoaib Malik’s inclusion so that, Hammad Azam can be under pressure. He may get a chance to play but, even one match failure would be enough for people to axe him. Strange that Misbah did not request for Abdul Razzaq but, he opted for Malik? And, I don’t understand why you need to bring FATHERS in the discussion? Are you so frustrated that you are getting cheesed off? Please smile, you are on candid camera. 😀

  92. #92 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2012 - 4:31 PM

    Hard to Digest Facts? HAJMOLA is the Answer, Munir get a bottle and feel good.

    Btw, ALL those so-called facts that you have got from cricinfo have already been mentioned here on this blog after the 3rd test and most of us have already read it on their website. Thank you once again to “TAKE OUT TIME FROM YOUR UNDOUBTEDLY BUSY SCHEDULE.” Mucho Gratis Mon Ami.

  93. #93 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2012 - 4:33 PM

    And, Munir pls. check the RELIGION page, someone (we don’t know who he is, except that he is from the UK) has replied today to one of your very old comment. And, he has corrected you and, “I am agree” with him. 😀

  94. #94 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 9, 2012 - 6:01 PM

    Munir

    Comment #89

    Once again you seems to be cheesed off upon hearing the truth. Yes, it is the truth when those 3 Musketeers were jailed there were no replacement and the team appeared weak. The WC being a very big event he thought Malak would be better than others — Like, known devil is better than unknown devil — which is just an expression so don’t draw comparisons between Angles and Devils. 😉 And, there is a difference between that situation and this one. This time Malak’s performance is proved he could not get into double figures in the last 8 – 10 matches. So, what is the justification here?

    I guess, you got the information from the horses mouth that Afridi when he was not even the captain of the team influenced Younus Khan and Waqar Younus to throw Hammad Azam out of the playing eleven. Whereas, on two occasions Afridi himself was sure who the captain of the team will be, whereas the team was already announced. Which never happened in the history of cricket but in the Dark Ages of BUTT.

    And, you can not only have your cake and eat it too by saying, “Yes I am not denying I said, I wanted Pakistan to lose….. to get rid of BUTT.” Munir, It was not only for BUTT but, you also wrote it on two more occasions about the removal of certain players, you said, you wanted the team to lose to OVERHAUL the team as well as the PCB and for that you wanted Pakistan to lose? OK, OK, I won’t search on the archives, case closed BAKAOZ you have the RIGHT TO SAY THAT YOU WANT PAKISTAN TO LOSE?

    And, when I wrote I want England to lose, you say: my intentions are wrong, my patriotism is questioned and you are the judge, jury and the adjudicator to decide and interpret the meanings of my statement or, read my mind. Although it is very clear and I did mention it explicitly and not once but twice that, even though I don’t like Misbah’s negative batting and his negative tactics as a captain still I want Pakistan to beat England.

    And, this info has also come from the Horses mouth that Afridi made a deal with Ijaz and made billions and he is building a castle in the ButtLand.

    Munir, it seems like, what my dream is, it’s your Nightmare? You may sing the victory songs but, everyone knows whats going on, not everyone is wearing blinkers. Almost everyone knew that in the UAE Pakistan always plays well and England may not have good chances, they always play well in their own backyard or, may be once in a while in the Ashes series in Australia. Their T20 team is not bad but, again in the UAE they may not be that effective as they are in other countries.

    Cheema is known to be Masbaha’s buddy so he had to play him, and in the second innings of the 3rd test Cheema bowled only 4 overs!!! I am sure, if Misbah gets a chance he will bring back Kamran Akmal in the team.

    Yes, Masbaha’s winning ratio in test matches is very good and he can increase it further by playing test matches against, Kenya, Namibia, Bermuda, UAE and AFGHANISTAN too ! Since they are playing against Afghanistan one ODI, so there is “A Cape of Big Hope,” that they may play a test match in the near future. Wow, what a bright future Masbaba has?

  95. #95 by raju reporter on February 9, 2012 - 7:42 PM

    haqaiq jo paet mein maroor uthaey

    mishap’s average in england series was malikish 36- yes 36 and thats why he wants sania in the esquad.

    mishap nevder requested for afridi tro be included who is the best loi all rounder in the world but he sifarished for malak- why? sania pe dil aagaya kya kheeray?

    mishap didnt score a senkdra just like many english batsmen butta 2 pk players scored.

    Daddy butt was the prime force which made mishap captaan, so congrats to daddy for making kheera a cricket keedra 😉

    ab qabz qusha khaaaney ki koi zaroorat nahi

    chalo ji pk ki haar chahney waaley bee shumaaaaaarrrr hain!

    daddy ki haar is kaka ki jeet!

  96. #96 by raju reporter on February 9, 2012 - 7:47 PM

    now one more thing

    aamer ko kyu khilaya ja raha hae

    aray jaani, mishap ko ab firangyon ko haraana hae aur tez goli baaz chahiye.

    lihaza har satoriya chalega; agar koi aur kuptaan hota to kabhi na kahte ” buchhaa hae jaane do”

    balkey kahtey ” na ji mulk ka naam kharab kiya hae, no no n o…”

    ab I go…. I go…. I go….

    itna coofffee hae 😛

  97. #97 by Raju reporter on February 9, 2012 - 8:29 PM

    Ye to bahas par mabni hae ke kaun kab chahta hae ke pk harey.

    Har ek ke apni wojohat hain.

    Magr ek beghairat,nahinjaar,namak haram aisa hae jis ne pk ko almi kup mein haraya aur aaj wo besharam khatam khiladryon ki sifarish kar raha hae

    yes butt has eliminated player power now its
    PUTTAR POWER 😉

  98. #98 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 10, 2012 - 4:21 PM

    Pakistan played their first ODI against Afghanistan who were all out for 195 in 48.3overs. Whereas, Pakistan is still playing their innings and are on 66/2 in 15 overs. IMO, they should have scored more than 100 runs in the 15 overs but, that is Masbaha’s batting team. Younus Khan and Imran Farhat are batting in TESHT ESHTYLE with a strike rate in mid sixties. I don’t understand why they play so slow? When playing against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, they batted in same style. Whereas, New Zealand throughout made 350 plus runs against Zim and got them out for 70 ~ 80 runs. That should be the way. Anyways, this is how Masbaha & Co. play kirkut.

    Afridi took 5 wickets for 36 runs in 10 overs. He clean bowled the captain NewDay-Tuesday (Nawroz Mangal)

    Malak included in place of Hammad Azam and will bat at number 8? Wah kya sound batter hai? He bowled 4 overs and no wicket for 23 runs self-proclaimed best all-rounder of Pakastan.

  99. #99 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2012 - 3:12 AM

    Pakastan WON and Masbaha has once again played a not out innings for himself at the slowest strike rate among team members (barring Hafeez who was out for 8). Against a team like this the strike should not be less than 100. Anyways, ONE MORE feather in his…………………………… cap!

    Afridi after taking 5 wickets in today’s ODI, became the second spinner with the highest one-day wickets (338) behind Muttiah Muralitharan (534), surpassing India’s Anil Kumble who had 333 wickets. And, how many times has he been MoM?

  100. #100 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2012 - 10:04 AM

    I am sure Munir must have enjoyed the Sharjah match watching his favourite player, captain Miss Baha Ul remaining not out for 40 a feat that he has achieved so many times i.e., remaining not out. Once again on paper his batting average will improve but, look at the way he played:

    55 balls 40 runs
    6×2 = 12 runs
    4×3 = 12 runs
    24 runs came from 5 deliveries (50 balls remaining)

    16 singles in 16 deliveries
    50-16 = 34 dot balls.

    Wow 34 DOT BALLS against a team like Afghanistan? This is a slightly better performance than he played against India in the WC wherein he played 40 dot balls. Indeed Masbaha is a very good goal-keeper of cricket.

    Instead of coming in himself, he should have sent Umar Akmal to get some batting practice, he would have also accelerated the score.

    And, he did not want to send Afridi up the order because, if he had scored a 50, that would have been another record for Afridi taking 5 wickets and scoring 50 runs for the 3rd time, which no one has done before.

    And, he did not want to expose his Baby Sissy Malik, because he would have gotten OUT in any case. And, look at the over-protective motherly statement below that he gave after the match:

    “We got in Shoaib Malik because he’s another spin option and also a lower-order batter.”

    Another spin option? He should have taken Abdur Rahman who is 10 times a better spin option than Malak and he can bat better than Malak especially with the form he has been showing lately. Ideally it should have been Hammad Azam. But, he is a show piece item I guess?

  101. #101 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2012 - 10:15 AM

    “We got in Shoaib Malik because he’s another spin option and also a lower-order batter.” — Misbah.

    More on this statement. Since when Malak has become a lower order batsman?

    He used to claim that he plays well as an opener or, as a top order batsman and even opened the innings a few times but, he failed. During Inzamam’s captaincy he used to say: “I play at top or I play in middle or I play low and wherever my captain wants me to lay I lay.” 😀

    And, why is Missy praising Sissy? Afridi took 5 wickets and he was player of the match and he did not mention a word about him. Younus Khan scored 70* @ a strike rate of almost 108 and there is no mention of him. Why SISSY? What is so special about him?

    Andhaa Baantay Raiwree Wo Bhee Apnay Apnaon Ko? (Blind distributing sweets only to the blinds) This is the height of nepotism and favouritism. First he requested for Malak and then he is praising him for the 4 overs he bowled in which he got ZERO wickets for 23 runs.

  102. #102 by Raju reporter on February 11, 2012 - 10:33 AM

    Jk

    dal mein kaala hae ya malak hae

    wo bhi mash oh marsh ki dal 🙂

    ye sub dramebazi hae. Jis ko baap nahi bardashat karsaka,beta kyu karega. Aray bhai butt ki rooh mishap ke andar hae aur afridi jani dushman butt ka,to mishap kyu tareef karega.

  103. #103 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2012 - 10:46 AM

    Raju

    The irony is, people in general and Misbah’s supporters and fans in particular are praising his so-called victories as outstanding achievements whereas, his own contribution is either zilch or negative. If you wanna beat minnows, watch NewZealand beating Zimbabwe with huge margins and mind you NZ themselves are not so great as a team, yet they are playing positive and entertaining cricket. You call this cricket where the captain plays 32 dot balls against Afghanistan who are just an affiliate? Shame on Misbah.

  104. #104 by NewGuy on February 11, 2012 - 1:30 PM

    JK,

    Well, yeah, Afridi took 5 wickets, against an affiliate nation. I don’t consider that as a great achievement. I recall in the WC where he ended up being the joint highest with Zaheer, he had in fact taken 5 wicket haul against Canada, an affiliate, and also he had a bountiful against another minnow Kenya?

    Anyhow, since he plays a lot of ODI he is bound to break records, just like all players who play a lot of games, ask Tendulkar about it.

    I am getting an inclination of why people dislike Tendulkar because of his fan base, by beginning to develop a dislike for Afridi by reading all the overly exuberant praises from his fans. NOT YOU, Javed Khan, but I read some other board where fan boys are calling Afridi a super man and what not.

  105. #105 by NewGuy on February 11, 2012 - 3:19 PM

    Bishen Bedi calls Saeed Ajmal a dart thrower

    Bedi is at it again, the former Indian spin bowler who called Murali a javelin thrower is now calling Ajmal a dart thrower.

    Here is the news:

    Bedi feels that it is the ICC which has created this “monster”.

    “How can you continue with this nonsense? One should put an end to this farce. It’s ICC’s prerogative to react. Saeed Ajmal’s is case of blatant chucking. If you look at the way he is bowling, he doesn’t need a run-up to bowl. He can stand and simply throw the ball just like you play darts,” Bedi told PTI.

    “You have allowed someone like Muttiah Muralitharan and that’s where the problem started. Can anyone with naked eye be able to conclude whether the arm is bending at less or more than 15 degrees. You need to trust the human eye and let’s be honest a chucker can be identified from a mile,” Bedi fumed.

    “It’s admirable that ICC is trying hard to curb the menace of match-fixing but they aren’t doing anything to curb the menace of chucking. When you try to detect whether a match is fixed or not, it’s not easy but chucking is something that’s happening right under your nose.”

  106. #106 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2012 - 6:21 PM

    NG

    I agree with you that an over enthusiastic and over exuberant fan base is one of the reasons people react and dislike the players and it is not just with Tendulkar, Dhoni, Afridi it is also the same with Misbah. Having said that, Misbah cannot be in the same category as the other three. The three is just an example, there are many more like Kevin Pietersen, Mike Hussey, Andrew Flintoff, Kallis etc.

    Btw, it is not just a 5 wicket haul it is a 50 plus runs in the same innings and last time he did was against Sri Lanka in Sharjah? Against Zimbabwe it was in the UK that was years ago when he took 7 wickets in a ODI. Afridi fans may be praising him and calling him a superman but, more than half of India considers Tendulkar as a god. And, Dhoni when he went for a hair cut 10,000 fans went with him to that Nayee ki Dukaan and were waiting outside and that so-called event was a live broadcast on TV. Isn’t that too much? I think it is disgustipatingly pathetic.

  107. #107 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2012 - 6:21 PM

    NG

    I agree with you that an over enthusiastic and over exuberant fan base is one of the reasons people react and dislike the players and it is not just with Tendulkar, Dhoni, Afridi it is also the same with Misbah. Having said that, Misbah cannot be in the same category as the other three. The three is just an example, there are many more like Kevin Pietersen, Mike Hussey, Andrew Flintoff, Kallis etc.

    Btw, it is not just a 5 wicket haul it is a 50 plus runs in the same innings and last time he did was against Sri Lanka in Sharjah? Against Zimbabwe it was in the UK that was years ago when he took 7 wickets in a ODI. Afridi fans may be praising him and calling him a superman but, more than half of India considers Tendulkar as a god. And, Dhoni when he went for a hair cut 10,000 fans went with him to that Nayee ki Dukaan and were waiting outside and that so-called event was a live broadcast on TV. Isn’t that too much? I think it is disgustipatingly pathetic.

  108. #108 by Raju reporter on February 11, 2012 - 6:34 PM

    Jk

    im agree that mishap is not in the same league as tendkar,afridi etc. Infact he wont be missed at all whenever he retires most probably in twenty twenty. 😉

    btw, public is now realizing that there r reasons for hating or loving icons. Perhaps with time people will understand that mishap was a short term analgesic with disastrous side effects.

  109. #109 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2012 - 6:35 PM

    I must say that to a certain extent BEDI is right. By saying this I don’t mean to take away the sheen and gloss from Ajmal’s bowling success. To me not only Murali but, Malinga The Salinga is more of a chucker than anyone else.

    Ajmal’s action is not that dubious and obvious as Murali’s. And, Bedi is right that no umpire can tell whether it is 7.5 degrees or 10 degrees or whatever. The human eye can see that there is some jerk in the action and that’s it.

    They say that Malinga does not give a jerk when throwing (bowling) but, I have tried throwing the ball in similar action as Malinga’s and I was able to bowl faster than my usual speed (whatever the speed may be) and when I tried to keep my arm closer to my ear the speed is much less. Also, as kids we used to stand still and throw flat stones (or, even the chips of a broken MUTKA made out of mud) on the surface of a lake by throwing them in a under-arm action to make to create ripples in the water i.e., when the flat stone touches of the surface a few times before drowning. Also, sometimes we used to run and throw it in Malinga style and sometimes it used to go further than a normal throw but, make less ripples.

    Therefore, in my opinion the ICC rules on bowling, like their D/L method and like their test rankings is as stupid as anything else.

  110. #110 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 11, 2012 - 6:46 PM

    Raju

    Do you mean the game twenty20 or the year 2020? Both are possible in his case. Because, in Pakistan whether it is a cricket player or a politician they don’t go until and unless they are kicked out.

    Did you notice that he played 34 dot balls against Afghanistan? Yet, people are so happy and ecstatic that Pakastan has won. The match should have been over in 25 overs but, it took 37 overs for Pakistan to score 196 runs.

  111. #111 by NewGuy on February 11, 2012 - 7:06 PM

    JK,

    My opinion on the bowling action is that it is OK for a bowler to do that so long as the bend is all within whatever accepted level, because everything is so much in favor of batsmen. I am convinced that any spin bowler who is getting extra ordinary turn with the doosra is somewhat bending. That however should take away no credit from them, because it still need skill and practice to do that. Otherwise why not every spin bowler is doing the same. They cannot since they do not practice or don’t have the skill.

  112. #112 by Raju reporter on February 11, 2012 - 7:07 PM

    Its pretty obvious jk what i meant. He will retire in 2020.

    I agree with bedi because murali is a chucker. The asian bloc wouldnt have allowed him to be banned so icc resorted to 15′ rule.

    Cricket’s rvles are a laughing stock. Look at DRS- india doesnt like it so u have 2 parallel systems where one contest has drs and the other doesnt.

  113. #113 by NewGuy on February 11, 2012 - 7:09 PM

    NZ crushed ZIM in all their games, so I think that is one way to play the minnows. But, I am not sure if the Afghans are like ZIM, I read that they learned their cricket in Pakistan and so their style of cricket is somewhat similar to Pakistanis. Of course they are not at the same level, but I don’t see YK and Misbah blasting any attack out of the park, it is just not their ISHTYLE 🙂

  114. #114 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2012 - 1:30 AM

    NewGuy

    Bending the arm within the limits………???? How can anyone with a naked eye can tell it is not 15 degrees but 13 or 16? This is like that guy, when asked where is Sistine Chappel? He said, “it is between Fifteen and Seventeen.”

    I am not saying it is not a skill but there is a difference between bending the arm and throwing the ball with a jerk. Murali certainly used jerk.

    Regarding YK and Misbah not blasting or it is not their ishtyle. I disagree because, YK played at a strike rate of 108 which is acceptable, I am it is fine. Whereas, Misbah whenever he wants he goes for big hits but, he does not want to lose his wicket and in that process he plays dot balls. He waits for a lolly pop to come and then hits. If I can observe this, most bowlers are aware of his so called ishtyle so they try to bowl wicket to wicket and good length. No one is expecting 10 sixes in his innings, he scored two it is enough but 34 dot balls? Why the HELLO? He should have taken singles and rotate the strike. He never does that.

  115. #115 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2012 - 1:41 AM

    Raju like I have said this before so many times that ICC is not run by competent and creative people, they made those silly rules and stick to them like a holy word of Gospel. Their D/L method is ridiculous. Their test ranking criteria is very silly and the other rules such as obstructing the wicket…. funny thing is Inzamam was a victim twice.

    When he tried to avoid the ball hitting him he was standing but, he jumped in the air and the ball hit the stumps and he was given out and when he touched the ball with his bat to protect his body, the ball was supposed to be thrown at the stumps, actually was aimed at his body and he was not in line with the stumps by at least 2 meters and yet he was given out. And there are still a few more stupid rules. And, recently when Warner hit a six …… the Indian players are demanding that SWITCH HIT SHOULD BE BANNED?

    Let us see what India will do against Australia today? The match will start in about 100 minutes from now. India is unchanged from the team that beat SL and Australia has made some changes.

  116. #116 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2012 - 1:44 AM

    NewGuy

    When I gave example of NZ vs. Zim, it was because Pakistan also played against Zim and won but, look at the margins? Whereas, NZ literally crushed them.

    As regards your comments on Afghanistan. You bet this match would have been different if Afridi was not playing in it. Either it would have been a very, very close match or the possibility was there that the Afghans would have won!

  117. #117 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2012 - 2:06 AM

    I was reading another new interview by Misbah, which is on the Internet. He is emphasizing the need of Shoaib Malik’s inclusion and effectiveness as a spin bowler!

    Isn’t it better to bring in Abdur Rahman who is a left arm bowler and recently on these very pitches he took 19 wickets in 3 test matches, whereas Malik has not scored double figures in the last SIX ODI’s and may have taken a wicket or two! Yet, Abdur Rahman is not considered whereas Malak is, this is height of cronyism.

    If he wants the batting top order to improve, he should drop Imran Farhat despite his 50 odd runs against Afghanistan and he should let Afridi to open the innings with Hafeez and Umar Akmal must play at no. 3. This way they will attack from the word go (especially in the T20’s) in case the wickets fall early he can always rely on his and YK’s defense. Hammad Azam must be included in the team and he can be a good middle order batsman.

    England are going to play Kevin Pietersen as an opener because he failed against the spin in test matches so they want him to score briskly within the first 15 overs. Pakistan must also change their strategy not just in batting as mentioned above but, they must open the bowling with Gul and Hafeez.

    England’s big mistake would be if they do not include RAVI BOPARA, because he can play better against spin also he is familiar with the flat track. But, I doubt they will play Ravi. There is one Samit Patil and Danny Brigs who will support Graeme Swann in spin. Good luck Ravi you can give company to Hammad Azam who is a showpiece item like you.

  118. #118 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2012 - 2:13 AM

    Raju

    DAWN newspaper should change their name from DAWN to GILLANI-NEWS. There is not a single day that goes by they don’t publish his photo on the front page. All the time we have to see the same old BOOTHA of this Manhoos insaan with his phoolay howay Nuthnay. He has been lying through his teeth all the time and it is disgustipatingly pathetic to see his photo everyday. I better delete DAWN’s name from my bookmark. Its sickening, it is nauseating to see his face all the time. It is getting worst than Ijaz Butt’s whatever!

  119. #119 by NewGuy on February 12, 2012 - 3:09 AM

    This guy Samit Patel is included with the expectation that he can play spin. When England got white washed 5-0 in the ODI series in India, everyone failed against slow bowling, except this guy Samit, who had some decent scores batting lower in the batting order. So, they are thinking he can play spin well. Let’s wait and see. If I recall correctly, even lulloo panjoo bowlers like Raina, Rohit Sharma, and Kohli were bowling during that series with some success. Ashwin and a rookie leggie Rahul Sharma troubled them so much.

  120. #120 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2012 - 6:26 AM

    BREAKING NEWS

    WHITNEY HOUSTON famous singer died at the age of 48. She died in her hotel room no signs of any criminal intent, cause of death not known. She ruled as pop music’s queen until her majestic voice and regal image were ravaged by drug use, erratic behaviour and a tumultuous marriage. I remember her famous movie Body Guard and her famous song, I, eye, eye, eye luv youuuuu. Tout en une fin.

  121. #121 by Mohammed Munir on February 12, 2012 - 6:48 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Affirmation … I thoroughly enjoyed the Pakistan/ Afghanistan match. It was great atmosphere with large number of enthusiastic Afghan fans supporting their team and doing the local/ cultural dances.

    BTW, from what I say, Pakistan has won the match in 37.1 overs with more than 12 overs (77 balls) to spare and by 7 wickets, so what was the need to hurry ❓

    Was there anything on stack for winning faster ❓

    And what would have happened had Pakistan won in, say, 10/12 overs ❓

    You would have still found some reasons to curse Misbah like you always do. 😀

    Because when we hate somebody, we don’t need valid reasons to show our feelings, we just do it. Similarly, when we love someone, we also don’t need any good reasons to love them, we just do it … or over do it. 😛

  122. #122 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2012 - 6:50 AM

    Raju

    That smoker’s corner druggy is once again high on coke and he wrote his new article saying ZA Bhutto was a secular leader, what a load of Cow Dung? He was initially a socialist and when he saw kay Pakastan may socialism ki daal nai galni he called it Islami Masawat. The reality is he was a bloody opportunist and the BIGGEST civilian dictator ever in the history of Pakistan. He screwed up the economy of the country by nationalizing banks, insurance companies and financial institutions. He promised for land reforms and himself being the biggest landlord changed his policies like a chameleon.

    I wonder why only military rulers are called dictators whereas, we have ZA Bhutto, Nawaz Sharif and this MF Zardari who are also dictators. In fact their regime was more like politburo, they had a clout of all Ghundas and mafiosis and they did whatever they wanted to do.

    Bhutto is also responsible for bringing Mullah culture in the country by antagonizing them and criticizing too much he gave unnecessary importance to people like Maulana Maudoodi, Shah Ahmad Noorani and Mufti Mahmood, Tufail Ahmad etc. And, Zia ul Haq is a protege and a follower of these Mullahs. ZA Bhutto is also solely responsible for the creation of Bangladesh. His rude and arrogant behaviour is the root cause of creating hatred between the Bengali Muslims and the rest of the Pakistanis. He threatened Tufail Ahmad if he goes to Dhakka — to attend the NA session being called by Mujib ur Rahman the elected leader in majority from East Pakistan — he will break his legs!

    This druggy hardly knows anything about the history of Pakistan and he is trying to stamp his authority like he is a master historian — Ch2So4 kaheen ka.

  123. #123 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2012 - 7:11 AM

    Munir

    I knew you will come back with some such reason but when you say “WE” keep that V for yourself and don’t include us, at least not me.

    Yes, there is no hurry 37.1 over or 49.5 overs doesn’t make any difference it is just the same thing. Just like 34 dot balls or 84 dot balls is the same thing. It is not only him who enjoys playing dot balls but, there is a whole world out there who not only loves that, they applaud every single ball he plays with a dead bat. After all cricket is a one man show game and in future it should not be played in a stadium but, as a video game so that one can play in the comfort of his own house. And, they should also change the name from KIR KUT to TUK TUK.

    I don’t need to find any reason, the figures don’t lie, words can be twisted and different meanings can be derived from words just like you always try to mould and twist the words and statements the way you see it and the way you want to present it, but numbers are hard and unequivocal. What I wrote there are numbers that are hurting people and not words ….. should I wink here? aNO.

    Once bitten twice shy, this time you are not LALLAFIED because that would mean a paradigm shift for you and it would be like a self inflicted prick in the inflated ego which is bigger than a hot air balloon. Should I add a smiley face here? aNO, rehnay dou. Matlab tou samajh may aa hee gaya hoga? Winky, Pinky, Shinky and Smiley ko dumm chulla bana nay say kya faida?

    There are so many other comments above that also needs some attention but, like always you only pick and choose the one that you think you have a point to score and the rest you gulp them without a burp and nibble on the rest.

  124. #124 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2012 - 7:13 AM

    NG

    Australian innings ended with 269/8 and IMO, 270 is not a difficult target for India but, at the same time with their pathetic performance against Australia so far, it is not so easy either. I don’t have the patience to watch this all night but, I am sure when I wake up in the morning the result should be an interesting one.

  125. #125 by Mohammed Munir on February 12, 2012 - 7:25 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Please read this below statement of yours once again …

    Once bitten twice shy, this time you are not LALLAFIED (Misbahrised) because that would mean a paradigm shift for you and it would be like a self inflicted prick in the inflated ego which is bigger than a hot air balloon.

    I have changed just one word from LALLAFIED to MISBAHRISED, and see now the whole statement suits you better then moi. (and I will not say aNo, but put a 😉 🙂 😆 😀 😛 ).

    BTW, if you don’t like my 🙂 😉 then you can remove them from the blog, no questions will be asked. 😆

  126. #126 by Raju reporter on February 12, 2012 - 8:22 AM

    Baat ki baat,khurafat ki khurafat

    butt ne marey do do shot

    jo laga nahi wo malakise hua
    jo laga wo mishapize hua

    kaptaan ho to aisa
    jis ki pooch pe sania 😉

  127. #127 by Raju reporter on February 12, 2012 - 11:44 AM

    Badhai ho, dhoni ne to chamatkar kar dya.india ne australia ko hara dya

    dhobi ki jay ho

  128. #128 by NewGuy on February 12, 2012 - 1:55 PM

    JK,

    I did not follow the India ODI, just checked scored this morning and saw they somehow won, mainly because of Gambhir played a long innings and Rohit / Raina contributed. I saw Dhoni remained not out on 44 with a strike rate of 75 and only one four. Looks like he made it very hard.

    But here is the thing, Cricinfo says Ice cool Dhoni steer India home. What is wrong with them .. Dhoni nearly lost the match that Gambhir had set them up. Then he somehow got lucky to hit a six in last over and becomes a hero. Nonsense.

  129. #129 by Raju reporter on February 12, 2012 - 2:49 PM

    Yes cooolll… Dhobi

    and cool kheeraa..

    Isnt it strange that when dhobi wins the match he’s criticised,and when mishap does the same thing its all praise. I still remember whn mishap struck the winning six it was Aahsum and now dhobi is bogus.

    Well 13 runs were required and dhobi struck a 6 and and a 3 so its cool but the ch2 screwed the t20 final by gifting jogindr his wkt.

    Dhobi is a lousy captain but he’s not a MISHAP. At least he won 2 wc and mishaps gifted 2 wc to india.

  130. #130 by Raju reporter on February 12, 2012 - 5:20 PM

    Jk

    im agree about the pot smoker. He knows nothing about history and just farts.when mush was in power,it was all mush makhan and now PPP.

  131. #131 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2012 - 6:10 PM

    NewGuy

    My views about cricinfo saying ice cool Dhobi steer India home is same as yours. It was Gambhir who set the match but, this is how he media and ch2ya react. They always praise the captains as ice cool and cool as cucumber.

    And I also agree with Raju that Dhobi with whatever drawbacks and setbacks he may have, he has still won matches for India by finishing them with a win. Whereas, this cool cucumber has gifted two WC’s to India on a silver platter. Misbah isn’t a finisher, he is a loser.

  132. #132 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 12, 2012 - 7:33 PM

    Munir, I have responded to your comment on the religion page, you may read it if you like……….. but, please do not skim read it.

  133. #133 by Raju reporter on February 12, 2012 - 7:50 PM

    Jk

    read this
    😆 pe 😆

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/12/first-person-i-am-leaving-this-film-industry.html

    she’s still tharty twoo

    shoaib purposad her
    haha..

  134. #134 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2012 - 1:50 AM

    Raju

    She said, Shoaib also proposed to her cousin at the same time haha… so he is not a stable person but, he is a stable boy and she is a poster girl, haha again! And a big LOL @ the B grade people.

    I used to think that in Lollywood there is no number 2 and there is no B grade. This was confirmed by Bushra Ansari in one of her TV serial where she said, I am number one! And, she was mimicking a Punjabi film “hero-wine” and this so called hero-wine gave time for her interview at a breakfast club where she was telling the guy who was interviewing that, she is on a dating these days. So, the guy asked what do you eat for breakfast in your diet regime?

    She replied: Buss 2 Dongay Paway day! Tay Hek Naan Tandoori whore 3 boilded legs. Boilded legs? Ye kya hai? Array bhai Murgi day Anday biled walay! Oh accha sirf yehi? Na na jee, naal 2 glass lussi tay Hek pyala doodh.

    Wah, Wah kya Dating hai aapki, juvaab nai!

  135. #135 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2012 - 1:58 AM

    NG

    I was reading Gambhir’s interview on cricinfo, have you read that? Bakaoz he scored 92, he is now boasting rather, he is not letting the opportunity go by and directly criticized Dhoni for taking the match into the last over. I think ice cool Dhoni will not respond to this comment because he is not in a strong position at the moment, so he might simply ignore it and wait for the moment till he gets an opportunity to hit him back i.e., if India wins the final.

    In the same article, under the comments section there is a guy who commented on Dhoni and here it is:

    ” I am surprised to see some comments here criticizing Gambhir for his remarks like @ RGPKNR. He is asking who Gambhir is? well, He is unsung hero of Indian cricket. Though he said that he followed cricket for last 21 years but did not seem to me that he even followed cricket last four years. Gambhir is the one who played a major hand in 20-20 world cup win, with even making score in 70s in final. He played good knocks during WC, and also contributing score in 90s in final. Today also because of his 90s, India got close to winning position. Dhoni has just habbit of getting credit for everything in Indian cricket but I think Dhoni is plain lucky to be at right place in right time. This team winning habit was build up by Ganguly, who was and will remain best captain ever. Dhoni has no captaincy and batting skill and just being plain cool does not make you a good captain.”

  136. #136 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2012 - 2:24 AM

    Munir

    Apart from Religion page, I have posted a comment on V-talk 10 page as well , perhaps you may be interested in reading that.

  137. #137 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2012 - 10:09 AM

    The first ODI will start in about one hour from now and these are the probables for the match:“Pakistan (possible) 1 Mohammad Hafeez, 2 Imran Farhat, 3 Asad Shafiq, 4 Younis Khan, 5 Misbah-ul-Haq, 6 Umar Akmal (wk), 7 Shoaib Malik, 8 Shahid Afridi, 9 Saeed Ajmal, 10 Umar Gul, 11 Wahab Riaz.”

    Once again Parchee, Sifarish and Yari Dosti is at its peak. Imran Farhat the edgy player and Shoaib Malik Meesna the good for nothing player should not have been in the team. Instead, Hammad Azam and Abdur Rahman should have been included. Hammad Azam is a good all-rounder and Abdur Rahman would have added a lot of strength and variety to the spin attack. But, Masbaha is Masbaha he over rides and people get mesmerized for this cool cucumber.

  138. #138 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2012 - 10:38 AM

    I have never seen anything like this before. It took me a while to understand why the bowler is so high in the air? BRAVO.

  139. #139 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2012 - 10:40 AM

    England won the toss and elected to bat. No Abdur Rahman but Meesna and Fart-hat in. Wot a shame!

    The pitch report confirms that it is a batting deck. So, is KP going to avail this opportunity and score big?

  140. #140 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2012 - 11:37 AM

    So far Cook is playing well, KP seems to be a bit nervy and shaky against Gul and Hafeez both. Against Gul he was given out LBW but, referral saved him. Hafeez as usual wasted a referral. He is too quick to ask for a referral whether he is batting or bowling, he is a very bay sabra player. If England takes this partnership beyond 80 they will have some confidence and it is possible because of the way they are batting now. And, a total of 300 plus is possible on this flat deck. So, the match will be interesting and let us see how the tuk, tuk will progress if they have to chase 300 plus? England 41/0 in 8 overs with cook on 27 from 27 balls.

  141. #141 by Raju reporter on February 13, 2012 - 12:06 PM

    Two in two

    boom boom 😎

    kheera is no match 4 afridi. I wonder how come they rate kheera better loi player than him.

  142. #142 by NewGuy on February 13, 2012 - 1:26 PM

    JK,

    I read the Gambhir comments, and my view is same as yours, i.e, he is boasting now because he finally played a match winning innings. Dhoni made similar remarks about Gambhir when he got out on 97 in WC final, I recall Dhoni said GG is responsible for not getting his 100 and when someone plays a big innings they should finish off the match.

    I view it as an indication of discord in the team between members, and these things are coming out now that Dhoni looks weak. Also there must be discontent among people like Gambhir when Dhoni walks away with all credits when others have played important contributions.

    That said, it is classless to make such comments. They should learn from Dravid, who was never given enough credit and lived under the shadow of Tendulkar, even when he played match winnings Test innings overseas so many times. But, not when Dravid and Tendulkar both are coming to the end of their careers, people are finally realizing the body of work he has done and he will surely get his due presence in the hall of fame.

    Players should let their performance speak over long periods of time and let people judge after they are finished, instead of talking during their small peaks.

  143. #143 by Raju reporter on February 13, 2012 - 7:35 PM

    Wat a maetch whining perofarmance by kheera and paleed sania.

    Haha..

    Chalo aaj is beghairat ney review zaya nahi kya magr malak ko khila kar match ka khana kharab kar dya.

    Is moqua par 2,4 totey hojaey

    😆 😉 😛

  144. #144 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 13, 2012 - 8:40 PM

    Wah, wah, wah kya performance hai…… I am MISBA-HARAI-ZED now, KON HARAI? Misy-bah Harai !

    Malik should be sent back by the first flight, he is good for nothing.

    I dunno who is the top scorer of this match from Pakistan’s side?

    But, this is the real standard of PK’s batting side. They could not even match the score of Cook, they lost by 7 runs!

    No need for Wahab Riaz on these pitches replace him with Abdur Rahman
    No need for Sania Malik, replace this idiot with Hammad Azam.
    Farhat too should be kicked out, that new guy they brought in for T20, what is his name? Awais Zia, he should be given a chance.

    Misba is saying batting let us down. UKP, If you play with such idiots in the batting department this is what is going to happen. Today, his TUK TUK didn’t work, there were plenty of overs and plenty of runs and he showed his caliber that he cannot play under pressure even with his tuk tuk. Raju yeh tou vapis ja ker Diamond Markeeet kay Mujray dekhenge that is why they are in a hurry to get out under 35 overs.

  145. #145 by NewGuy on February 14, 2012 - 12:49 AM

    When England scored 260 runs, I knew that Pakistan will not chase it. Pakistan in recent times have found it very difficult to chase targets about 230-240 runs, except may be against minnows. If Pakistan batted first and put up 230-240 then England would have found it hard too, because the bowlers would make it hard. Batting, especially chasing is something that Pakistan has to learn. The current line up don’t know how to pace and innings. This is actually a down side from the style of batting that have brought them success in Test cricket, unfortunately this style is going to cause them problems in ODI, especially if they have to chase.

  146. #146 by NewGuy on February 14, 2012 - 3:05 AM

    Ind-SL match is about to begin. I am not going to be able to watch. The news is that Irfan Pathan has been picked to play a game finally, and that makes a lot of supporters very happy, to top it off SRT is also playing today. SL is batting first. Lets see if India can chase another game today. I will check the scores tomorrow morning.

  147. #147 by Raju reporter on February 14, 2012 - 3:18 AM

    I wonder if the tuk tuk style is considered to be successful,why other teams are not asked to adopt it? Why likes of tendulkar or laxman are not asked to bat like mishaps.bcoz everybody knows its just a tukka and will not work in the longer run.

  148. #148 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 3:52 AM

    NewGuy

    The over all batting needs to be strengthened and how many times did I not write this on this blog? The last time, perhaps on this thread alone I wrote it many times and I was asked to give suggestions, as if I am the Chief Selector of PK? Those Ch2So4’s sitting there are recommending and important Malignant Malik and playing Sifarishi Tuttoo like, Farthat so what are you going to expect from Mishara’s team?

    I have been ranting that this team cannot make 250 runs in ODI’s and the maximum they made in test is about 360-370 c’est ca. When your batsmen are not reliable or, they are negative then they will lose. In T20 also they will play very erratically — either this way or that way — but, the real test is in ODI’s. And, winning against minnows and that too with a tuk tuk approach is different from playing against big teams.

    This time it is Cook who scored a hundred next time it could be someone else, but there is no certainty in the PK bating line up, the only certainty is they may score 200 odd runs that’s it.

    Until and unless they change their strategy in ODI, its not gonna work, they have to start aggressively and for that you need big hitters and not tuk, tuk players.

  149. #149 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 3:56 AM

    As expected Munir is not here, but he has reasons, too much work and, blah, blah, blah…… Had Pakistan won the match, he would have been here with his ammunition of winkeys, pinkys, shinkys ……

    Al ghayeb, hajjat al maye …… the absentee has a reason.

    SL are 28/2 in 7 overs, Vinay Kumar is lucky to get wickets. But, Irfan got the prized wicket of Dilshan.

  150. #150 by NewGuy on February 14, 2012 - 3:59 AM

    Javed Khan,

    I agree that in ODI, Pakistan’s batting line up is not good enough at the moment. Oldies like YK should not be playing. Then Farhat and Malik are wasting two spots. For ODI, they need to bring in players who can clear the boundary ropes as well as place the ball and run quick singles and doubles. That will also strengthen the fielding. This approach to ODI isn’t going to work out. That said, they may win couple of games based on bowling strength, and England is good at collapsing any time.

  151. #151 by NewGuy on February 14, 2012 - 4:01 AM

    JK,

    Dilshan is a glorified slogger. He closes his eyes and swishes the bat, and it sometimes works in sub-continent. Sangakkara is the prize wicket and they have couple of useful players in Chandimal and Mathews.

  152. #152 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 4:07 AM

    NewGuy

    I dunno if you have read my comments about Younus Khan that I wrote a few years ago. I said, he should only be playing test cricket and no other format. But, they keep bringing him back. So much so that he was made captain of the T20 team that won the WC in England. What was his contribution then? ZILCH. Just like MissBah in this whole series against England.

    Malignant Malik and Farthat must be sent back, they should never be included in the team from now onward but, the irony is they will play and may score 30 -40 odd runs and play the next match and so on, which is total injustice towards players like Hammad Azam and Abdur Rahman. Can’t they find a better opener than Farthat? Hafeez too is very inconsistent as a batsman, so you cannot really rely or depend on him. Whereas, other teams have good openers and one of them plays a big innings but, in case of Pakistan it happens once in a blue moon.

  153. #153 by NewGuy on February 14, 2012 - 4:07 AM

    Irfan is bowling at 130 k’s and at times even 120’s. This is going to be problem for him when the players are looking for runs later on, they will take risks and it him across the line. This is the same problem with all trundlers like Vinay Koomar, PK, Munna Bhai, etc, etc. If he can increase his speed to 140 k’s then he will be a really good bowler. But I don’t see that happening. As of now, Yadav is bowling fast in mid 140’s and hopefully he will keep doing that even if he goes for runs in some games. Fast bowlers sometimes go for runs, but it is still good to keep bowling fast as that will get wickets.

  154. #154 by NewGuy on February 14, 2012 - 4:10 AM

    JK,

    Malik is totally wasted. He will not be able to play the likes of Finn, Anderson, and Broad. It seems like Misbah said he is there as another spin option and a lower order bat. But it is clear that it is sifarish based.

  155. #155 by NewGuy on February 14, 2012 - 4:11 AM

    YK should have been out of team after WC semi. He batted so slowly and did not look like he can pace an ODI innings any longer.

  156. #156 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 4:12 AM

    NewGuy

    Afridi bowled at 131 kph recently and he is a spinner. I wonder why Irfan, Munna, Vinay and Jogi etc., cannot bowl fast? Do they not eat enough protein or what? And, I agree with you that when the ball is a little old, they will hit cross bat shots and spoil their average. Sangakara and Jayawardene are still there, you don’t know what will happen next? At the moment SL is on the backfoot because Dilshan after hitting that SIX on Vinay’s bowling was out against Pathan’s. If they slow down then they will end up around 250-260 which is not enough. India chased that total against Australia and they can do that again.

    As regards Pakistan’s ability to chase, ONLY THIS TEAM does not have the ability to chase, in the past they were good at chasing but, those were the days!!!!

  157. #157 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 4:16 AM

    Yeah, YK, MMM (Meesna, Malignant Malik) and IF, (imran farthat) should be out of the team. Younus Khan is like a BHAND, he doesn’t know how to retain his respect. Of course, he should have retired from the team and so also MISBAH. If there was any player from Australia who had played in the WC like Misbah did he would have retired. But, here he gets rewarded made captain of all three formats!

  158. #158 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 4:18 AM

    khansahab used to say that Malik cannot stand against swing bowling and that is why he has preferred to bat down the order at number 7 or 8. Whereas, he used to self-proclaim himself as the BEST ALL-ROUNDER of the team. Its like Monkey praising his own tail.

  159. #159 by NewGuy on February 14, 2012 - 4:19 AM

    JK,

    Obviously the past Pakistan teams could chase totals, but this team is not even a shadow of that batting line up. I recall the Pakistan team always had dashing batsmen who will take risks and score quickly, while Indians were lethargic and slow. In the past decade though the trend reversed, and as India had an in flux of dashers like Dhoni, Yuvraj, Kaif, Sehwag, and now the new brigade of Kohli, Raina, and Rohit are aggressive. While Pakistan has gone back to the 80’s style of batting, when people like Mudassar Nasser opened batting.

  160. #160 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 4:22 AM

    As I was browsing on cricinfo to check the score, I saw Kamran Abbassi wrote the same about Malik and Farhat. Why can’t the rest of the PCB or the selection committee see this and get rid of these players? Farthat is Ilyass’s son in law who is a selector, so he wants his son in law to be in the team. Malak is Misbah’s JIGREE YAAAAAAAAR he asked specifically for his inclusion in the team and we have seen how he bowled against Afghanistan (4 overs 27 runs no wicket) today????? Bowling and Batting both pathetic and this is not the first time, this is the 8th time he has not gone into double figures.

  161. #161 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 4:23 AM

    So NewGuy don’t you blame Misbah for creating this slow batting culture and taking no risks, which is a negative thing?

    Even during the time when Muddasar Nazir used to open the innings, there were players like Mohsin Khan (his opening partner), then you had, Zaheer Abass, Javed Miandad, Saleem Malik, Imran Khan etc. They all used to accelerate the score but, I have never seen anyone like Misbah who keeps on tuk tuko-ing throughout. He is such a negative player that the youngster who grew up as stroke players are aping their captain and in the process lost their ability to play their natural game and getting out cheaply. Kuwwa Challa Hans ki Chaal wali baat hai.

  162. #162 by NewGuy on February 14, 2012 - 4:26 AM

    JK,

    I am not sure about the protien part in their diet, or if it is a case of wanting to prolong their careers, there is a long history to that. But, Munaf was very quick when he came on initially against England, he bowled in the mid 140’s and was sharp. Then after couple of series he dropped pace and starting to bowl dibbly dobblies. May be injuries or fear of it??? Fast bowlers cannot last too long. Waqar took a lot of wickets and he bowled consistently fast, but he was also very fit.

  163. #163 by NewGuy on February 14, 2012 - 4:29 AM

    I am not sure if Misbah is creating this culture, in Tests I supported the approach because Pakistan was collapsing for low scores before then, and since Misbah came on he along with the likes of Azhar Ali, and Azad Shafiq has created some stability. They are slow, but are there better Test batsmen in Pakistan? As for ODI, this approach has to change, for sure. Is Misbah promoting it? or is it because of team selection is like that. Even when Afridi was captain the team was like this.

  164. #164 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 4:29 AM

    NG

    Fear of injuries as well as lethargy is the reason, I have not seen any fast Indian bowler (barring Kapil Dev) who remained fit throughout, although during the fag end of his career he too became slow but, that was probably due to his age. ZAK has fitness problem but, Munna Bhai is purely a lazy bowler it is obvious from his fielding.

  165. #165 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 4:36 AM

    Promoting — does not mean he is advertising and telling them to follow me. A captain leads from the front by example and others follow that trend. Like Ganguly created the fighting spirit and instilled the winning spirit. To say Dhoni has also done the same is not correct, we have to wait and see how the new generation will come up and play? Misbah is not being criticized by the nation because they have been winning against minnows and they won the test series against England. Had they been losing Misbah would have been axed by now. It is so common in the sub-continent that they always worship the rising sun.

    The players are following the footsteps of their captain whereas, the fans are only happy that the team is winning and the real test is when they will play against big teams and that too in their backyard and not on flat track. Even on flat tracks where any other team can post or chase 300 runs easily they struggle. Bowlers cannot win the matches all the time, there has to be a balance in the team and the balance is very tilted at the moment and the batting is in the pit hole.

  166. #166 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 4:38 AM

    Chandimal is a good find for SL, he is very consistent and reliable and has been scoring 50-60 runs regularly. Thank god they are playing him up the order, if he settles down he will score a century and he scores at a decent strike rate. He is doing OK with Sangakara at the moment.

  167. #167 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 4:47 AM

    Munir

    Here is an observation on how villainous and how selfish and how negative Misbah is:

    Did you see what Misbah did? He got Afridi out of the attack after 5-6 overs when Afridi was the only bowler who had taken any wicket. In fact he clean bowled KP and Trott, their best batsmen and whenever he takes wickets in his first 2-3 overs he dominates and take more wickets.

    Even if Afridi went for runs in overs 4 or 5, considering England’s stability Misbah should have carried on with Afridi. Misbah has done this lots of times before, he becomes defensive and takes a bowler out of the attack when the bowler is in rhythm. This is negative captaincy.

    Misbah’s batting is so mediocre that he always relies on openers OR, Younis Khan to lay a platform for him. He has never scored when the openers or YK have got out cheaply. (watch out, check the records) And, look at his high proportion of LBWs. This is the extent of his mediocrity because, defending the ball with the bat is easier than ensuring the leg is not before the wickets.

  168. #168 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 4:52 AM

    Sangakara OUT for 31, it is Ashwin who got him and SL are 79/3 in 20 overs. Not a good situation for SL. They should have taken this partnership till 150 at least. Because, Jayawardene has so far not shown his form like he used to come and score 60-70 runs.

  169. #169 by Raju reporter on February 14, 2012 - 11:32 AM

    Wah dhoni

    once more, point bachalya

    cool dhoni 😎

    fool kheera 😛

  170. #170 by NewGuy on February 14, 2012 - 1:30 PM

    Well, India tied the match with SL, which should be considered a disappointment from their point because they should have chased 236 easily. But credit to SL for making it hard for India. Dhoni made sure 1 point is taken from the match, which will come handy since SL hasn’t won anything yet.

    I can’t blame Dhoni today even though he waited until last minute, but it was because he was losing partners, and his style is to stay all the way to the end. There is no doubt there aren’t many better finishers than Dhoni in the game today, but is his skills diminishing? Because in back to back matches he struggled to finish, even though he did not lose match, in the past when Dhoni stays till the end, India ends up winning. A big factor for that was of course Yuvraj in the middle order.

    India’s middle order of Raina, Rohit, and Kohli should start making big scores soon, otherwise they will cannot defeat Australia. Defeating Aussies should be the aim, and for that Kohli, Rohit, and Raina must fire. Tendulkar also is misfiring of late, so is Sehwag.

  171. #171 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 2:56 PM

    Once again Gambhir’s 90 odd overshadowed because of Dhoni’s last ball and last moment struggle and, Dhoni also got Gambhir run out and for that he gets a player of the match award? This is a joke! He also got Irfan Pathan run out and poor Irfan had to sacrifice his wicket for his captain after hitting that six, why did Dhoni run to his end? Irfan is no chicken he is a big hitter too but, it shows that Dhoni has no confidence in him. Anyways, a neck tie and a suit for Dhoni i.e., a place in the final of this tri-series is guaranteed. From Ice Cool Dhoni he has now got another new title, Calm Dhoni delivers nerve-shredding tie. haha.

    There is someone standing the crowd and you don’t even notice who he is? And that is Tendulkar. What’s wrong with him? He should retire gracefully instead of looking like an ordinary passenger. That stupid 100 must be pinching his mind, although his fans have forgotten that there is a hundredth hundred to be scored but, like an elephant he won’t forget.

  172. #172 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 3:16 PM

    Raju

    Its not just here on this blog we are criticizing Misbah and Malik on cronyism, almost every single reputable blog is saying the same thing. Kamran Abassi on cricinfo has devoted the whole thread on it. There is a new review on DAWN here is the link:

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/14/team-misbah-now-taking-passengers.html

    That guy highlights the facts that Misbah is repaying his debt when Malik dropped Mohammad Yousuf on the criteria of his age and not his form and included an older player (Misbah) in the team. Malik is also responsible for derailing Abdul Razzaq’s career and, he tried his best to do the same with YK and Afridi. During his tenure the team lost most of the matches — an entire series against India in India — that never happened before. He only won against Zim and BD and that is what his buddy is doing now.

    Inzamam and Mushy blasted at Malik for his poor captaincy and trivial politics, Intikhab said he eats your brain like termite. Abdul Qadir said, he wanted to send him back to Pakistan from the UAE because, he was playing dirty politics. The readers on the blog calls him a parchee player along with farthat so, are we the only one here calling a spade a spade?

    People forget the kick that they get on their ass when they are given a lolly pop. Memories are short circuited and they worship the rising sun. On the recent defeat an Ostrich example is befitting yet nothing will be done. Batting department will not be strengthened because, there is cronyism, there is regionalism to the extent that we have called it jingoism. And, those who cannot see them are nocturnal or albinos.

  173. #173 by Raju reporter on February 14, 2012 - 4:14 PM

    Jk

    u said few days ago that its gobur and the termite.yes sania a gobur termite but mishap’s fans worship him and wont question this.

    Mishap urea and malak khaad.

  174. #174 by Raju reporter on February 14, 2012 - 4:25 PM

    Jk

    im eggri about sardardkular,he should retire

    its a simple case of

    misfarting genius or lone passenger

    but he’s as dheet as gobur,wont go as he likes being pojaed.

    Dhoni drew a match which coukd have been won or lost also but he’s criticised for tying but there’s anothr kool cktr who draws winnable matches BUT HE’S ALWAYS PRAISED 4 DRAWING. Double standards!

  175. #175 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 8:35 PM

    Shark Finn is too tall (6′-7″) and too fast for Pakistani batsmen especially the top order and, you will see this happening more often now in this ODI series. Also, if they go to England, in those conditions where the ball swings a lot they will stutter and struggle again. Tall fast bowlers are always a problem for short batsmen from the sub-continent, even Tendulkar had issues. In the past, Ambrose was a problem, so much so that Ireland’s Rankin gives trouble to these batsmen and they are all 6-7″ tall.

    Misbah plays with a straight bat to block the balls and very often he misses the line and gets out LBW, check his records how many times he has been out on LBW.

    After this win England’s confidence will be sky high despite Pieterson’s failure they have started well by winning the first match with a big margin. Pakistan’s only hope is to include Abdur Rahman and Hammad Azam in place of Malik and Farhat. And, if not Afridi, Umar Akmal must open the innings with the doubtful starter Hafeez. Perhaps, Azhar Ali should be given a chance in place of Wahab Riaz because one fast bowler is enough. There will be 4 spinners, Afridi, Ajmal, Abdur Rahman and Hafeez and Gul to open the attack. THIS WAY THE BATTING SIDE CAN BE STRENGTHENED.

  176. #176 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 14, 2012 - 8:47 PM

    1. Hafeez
    2. Umar Akmal
    3. Azhar Ali
    4. Asad Shafiq
    5. Younus Khan
    6. Hammad Azam
    7. Misbahul Haq
    8. Shahid Afridi
    9. Abdur Rahman
    10. Saeed Ajmal
    11. Umar Gul

    This should be the team for the second ODI and it seems more balanced under the circumstances that the wicket is good for spinners, although England proved rather Finn proved that fast bowlers can also extract wickets if they bowl wicket to wicket and by raising the ball from good length region up to the batsmen chest.

    The above team will have more batting ability and it runs down up to number 8 sometimes even the last 3 also add up a few valuable runs.

    PS.

    IF someone says that Azhar Ali is not in the ODI squad. YES, I know but, he can be recalled just like Malignant Malik has been called and is playing and spreading cancer. A good player can also be called and inducted and may be he will change his style and play fast considering this is an opportunity for him to play in this format. You never know until you try. But, to keep on trying totally out of form Malik who failed in 8 consecutive innings is not a mistake but a BLUNDER.

  177. #177 by NewGuy on February 15, 2012 - 12:45 AM

    Finn bowled well in India too, but not enough to stop the white wash. He was in fact the only saving grace for England as he alone did well. I think Anderson and Broad did not tour India, but they have played before in India and were not impressive.

    Coming to Tendulkar, he is playing very ordinary, we may think of retiring gracefully and all that, what if he doesn’t care about grace? He has a three year endorsement contract signed just this year that is worth many millions, his sponsors would like him to play I would imagine, and will he not oblige?

  178. #178 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2012 - 4:15 AM

    NG

    Yeah Tendulkar IS be obliged to play but, there is a limit. He has earned millions of dollars which he may not have dreamed about it as a child — he may have dreamed about playing cricket for India, but not about millions of dollars that he has in his account and a Ferrari that he got as a gift. So, also Dhoni. I remember Dhoni was not in Indian team but, he went to Kenya and played a good knock there for the under-19 team and India at that time were looking for a wicket-keeper. Dhoni caught the selector’s eye at the right time, and with his should length hair and his chubbiness he came in. He used to boast about drinking milk. In 2004 when PK was touring India under Inzi i.e., when they played the Mohali test and drew it and Kolkota test was won by India and Bangalore test was won by PK. On the same tour in those 5 ODI’s Dhoni scored 148 in the second match and the third was in Ahmedabad.

    In that 3rd match, Nehra was bowling and Afridi was batting, Nehra bowled a slightly wide ball outside the off stump, which Afridi did not attempt to play and Nehra taunted at him and asked him to play and the next ball he bowled was almost the same and Afridi flashed at it, he got a thick edge and the ball went between the first slip and the wicket-keeper for four. Nehra said, Dhoni MKC tumharee BC tumko seedhi seedhi catch pakarni nahee aati? And, Dhoni was kinda ashamed and he kept his head down. Later, when Dhoni’s guddi was flying high and, on some such occasion Nehra would only show his crowded teeth smile at Dhoni and scratch his head and say nothing. That is why we say tame, tame ki baat hai.

  179. #179 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2012 - 4:21 AM

    PYJAMAY DA KOI ZIKR NAI…… LOL, Dhoni is talking about the 5 ball 30th over in a very tricky manner. Those of you may not have heard about it can read that On cricinfo. Kuch keh na sakay aur keh bhee gaye!

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/content/story/553358.html

    He is saying, it could have been a dot ball, yeah in case of our cool cucumber it would have certainly be a dot ball bakaoz he is the champion of dot balls, in case of ice cool Dhoni it could have been a SIX or a wicket too?

  180. #180 by Mohammed Munir on February 15, 2012 - 7:55 AM

    Javed Khan …

    I, for once at least, agree with your choice of playing eleven. 😉

    But trust me, it will need a totally avant-garde approach to play such a selection and with this bunch of old-school selectors/ captain/ coach, I am not much hopeful they will take that step. Playing only one main fast bowler and four spinners may not go well with the management as well as with many fans, however, I think in the presence of Hammad Azam, who is a good medium pace option, we can go ahead with only one regular pacer in Gul.

    BTW, I also agree with you on Shoaib Malik and Imran Farhat and hope they kick them both out, but I will not place the entire blame of their selection on Misbah, as you have conveniently done. We (sorry, I) know that Malik is much more stronger in PCB circles then Misbah and this is why Misbah was always kept out of the team for so long and he could not play earlier. Whereas Malik, almost every captain in the past have included Malik in the team from Inzimam to Salman Butt to Shahid Afridi to Younis Khan to Misbah. So it is unfair to hold Misbah entirely responsible for Malik’s inclusion. Same goes for Imran Farhat, who has his father-in-law as one of the selectors. 😦

    BTW, it was good to see that you have mentioned ‘Kamran Abbasi’ again, seems like finally he got some significance for criticizing Malik & Farhat. 😉

    Hope he also gets some credence when the poor guy was praising Misbah. 😀

    On different thoughts, I must say that Pakistani fans are the most impatient and harsh when it comes to our guys. We don’t credit our team at all when they go out and whitewash the number one cricket team 3–0 in Tests, but we never miss even the slightest opportunity to wholeheartedly accuse and attack them for a single loss and we want them to win every single game against all opponents.

    Pakistani fans just can’t accept defeat, no matter what … and we are like this WON-LEE. 8)

    Guess Pakistani fans should learn a lesson or two from our Indian friends who are still supportive of their team even after such hard series in Australia. This is the difference between Indian and Pakistani fans. 😦

  181. #181 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2012 - 9:08 AM

    Munir

    Must I say thank you for agreeing avec moi pour ONCE and that too partially? Regarding your insistence on Misbah’s innocence in asking Malik’s inclusion in the team, I don’t buy that story first of all Missy inna V pola nai aye. Secondly, Malik’s case is the weakest ever in his career, he did not cross into double figures in 8 matches and yet Misbah requests for his inclusion? Especially since he was not in the squad. Do you think Misbah would have dared to make such a request if he was in a weaker position? A lot of other blogs and leading newspapers and sports writers have heavily criticized this yaari dosti thingi. Some have openly mentioned that Misbah is trying to repay the debt that he owed to Malik when he got him in the first T20 WC squad and that was in place of Mohd. Yousuf by saying he is too old, whereas Misbah is older than Yousuf.

    If Malik’s case is politically much stronger than Farhat, then why didn’t he drop Farhat in this today’s match (according to cricinfo, the probables for today’s match that will start in 2 hours from now) Malik is replaced by Adnan Akmal and Chota is relieved from wicket keeping. The reason is every single person is sending LAANAT MALAMAT ON MALAK’S selection and Malak proved in the last two matches (Afghanistan and 1st ODI) that he is only fit to be a ball boy. Malak go and pick Sania’s balls. Still there is NO HAMMAD AZAM in the team???

    Agreeing to what Kamran Abassi wrote, especially if there is something that I feel is right in my opinion does not mean I blindly agree with him on whatever else he writes, is he Amana Sadaqna or, he writes from the Holy Book? Why should I agree with him on everything? Do you agree with me or others on every subject, every topic? aNO, not at all, you find justifications and reasoning to push your point. And, I have never seen a single word you wrote against Misbah, sirf tareefain hee tareefain, bulkay tareef day pullaan. Whereas I have criticized Afridi on so many occasions especially when he made blunders or played badly and you think that is only a slap on his wrist. Whereas, according to you I have openly and blatantly murdered Misbah? Huh! And, why would I criticize him if he takes 5 wickets and scores 75 runs? If Misbah does that I will certainly praise his efforts, but his contribution is zilch.

  182. #182 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2012 - 9:20 AM

    Munir

    I am glad to see that you’ve finally considered Misbah as a member of that, BUNCH OF OLD SCHOOL of thought. Is it a slip of the tongue (I mean slip of the finger on the keyboard) or is it the truth that is coming out? He is certainly from that old school of thought who cannot take risks that is why his approach is defensive and his field placement is defensive and his bowling changes are defensive and overall his approach as a player and as a captain is negative.

    And, Misbah was in and out of the national team because, he only played well at domestic circuit and whenever he got a chance to play for Pakistan he failed. And, at that time the captains were Waqar and then Inzamam and they didn’t like his “Old School of Thought” tuk, tuk batting and his scores were just in the twenties or max. thirties. Now he is there because of Ijaz Butt, he is his loyal Puttarr. And, there is no one above him to remind him that he should play positive cricket. So far the team has won against minnows and just one major test series and people are singing songs of victory, (I would like to see this same team performing like this against England in England) otherwise if you look at the over all performance, there is nothing much to write home about.

  183. #183 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2012 - 9:48 AM

    Too many changes in the first ODI were the main reason for Pakistan’s defeat in the match: Shoaib Akhtar.—AFP photo
    KARACHI:

    Former fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar on Tuesday hit out at skipper Misbah-ul-Haq for making wholesale changes which, he said, led to Pakistan’s 130-run defeat in the first One-Day International against England in Abu Dhabi.

    “Too many changes in the first ODI were the main reason for Pakistan’s defeat in the match,” he said on Monday.

    “Why was Shoaib Malik played is anybody’s guess and I think Malik himself was under lot of pressure,” said Shoaib.

    “Pakistan team had done well in the Test series and major changes should not have been made,” lamented Shoaib who retired from International during the 2011 World Cup in Sri Lanka.

    “I fail to understand why in-form Azhar Ali was not considered in the team and why was Abdul Rehman left out.”—APP

  184. #184 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2012 - 9:51 AM

    What Shoaib Akhtar is saying today, we have said this here 5 days ago. Its not him alone, the guy on DAWN who wrote that blog about Malak being a passenger, he too wrote 3 days later after we wrote and for Munir’s contentment KA wrote that on PS after us. So, we are not following anyone, we are only expressing our views and WE are NOT as BIG as them, yet we have some grey matter to understand what is black and white!

  185. #185 by Mohammed Munir on February 15, 2012 - 10:09 AM

    Javed Khan …

    For god sake yaar, I have so many times criticized Misbah and wrote against him, I even ridiculed him name and made fun of him, but if you haven’t seen all that or you forgot about it then it is not my problem. 😦

    In fact, you are most welcome to visit old threads and see for yourself, because, I am sorry, I don’t have time to dig into archives and try to justify my comments against Misbah.

    Secondly, I rarely praise or appreciate Misbah flat-out and rather try to defend him by saying few words in his favour, because you not only criticize him but you do his ‘Maa/ Bhain’ also which I think is wrong. So I always try to say something in his favour, not ‘pullan’ but just few facts which are otherwise tormented and IGNORED. 😉

    BTW, it was not a slip of tongue/ hand, I agree that Misbah is old-fashioned, but sometimes specially in Test cricket Pakistan needs old-school, because this ‘boom-boom’ suits only T20 style of cricket and it wins us one in ten matches, which is not always a workable approach.

    A perfect balance between ‘tuk-tuk and boom-boom’ style should work well, but trust me ‘boom-boom’ alone may seem good to you for few overs but we may end up loosing every single game with only ‘boom-boom’.

  186. #186 by Raju reporter on February 15, 2012 - 10:15 AM

    Well it was LOLS when it was butt “mum/sis”
    but its aaaahhh.. When his munda is mismumed.

    Duhraa mayaar !

  187. #187 by NewGuy on February 15, 2012 - 2:00 PM

    JK,

    I read the 5 ball issue and Dhoni playing it down. It is indeed a huge problem, match could have been won or lost on one ball, especially on a tied game. But, Dhoni is right in down playing because of Indian media who will blow it up to be even bigger if the team and captain supports it. So they are letting it go since this is only a league match and they already are ahead on points. I don’t see it happening if this was a crucial match like a final.

    This is a tricky issue to handle, one might think you have to question it based on correctness. At the same time each team / country need to aware of their own situations too.

    On Tendulkar, my view is already stated that he should have retired after WC. You and I can call it and say he made enough moeny, fame, etc, etc. but what use is that.

  188. #188 by NewGuy on February 15, 2012 - 2:02 PM

    England batting first again and Cook made another hundred. Pakistan bowling not looking as strong as in Tests suddenly. Cook is out now, but they are in a good position with 10 oers to go and 8 wickets in hand, they can go all out, and score 250-260 runs. Pakistan will have to learn to chase one of these days, you cannot expect bowlers to do the job always. As such 250-260 is not a big score in ODI these days. Lets wait and see how Pakistan will approach the chase today.

  189. #189 by NewGuy on February 15, 2012 - 2:06 PM

    Morgan is playing tuk tuk as of now, may be they want to finish with Afridi and then take batting PP in last 5 overs? England batting is slow.

  190. #190 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2012 - 5:20 PM

    NG

    Pakistan is batting much more slower than England and Younus Khan has once again failed in ODI, AND HE IS THE ONE SAYING WE SHOULD NOT PANIC CH2. Right now it is Azhar Ali and Missy Baba the tuk tuk Champion. In 20 overs they need to score 125 runs to win with 7 wickets in hand. The stroke makers, Umar Akmal and Afridi are sitting and watching the RR going up, adding more pressure on them in the end. If these two players rotate the strike through singles, it should be enough to relieve the pressure and make the target easy.

  191. #191 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2012 - 5:27 PM

    Munir

    For God’s sake you should also check the archives and see how many times I have criticized Afridi and apart from calling him Akhroat, I have also said he does ch2yapay and I wrote the same for Misbah i.e., Ch2So4 etc, and not Maa Bahen, you on the contrary have said this a few times for Ijaz Butt, I also don’t have the time to delve deeper into that rotten Butt but, please don’t act pious bakaoz you may forget but the elephants don’t forget.

    And, for the sake of making a point you are talking about boom boom to defend the tuk tuk. Who do you think has a perfect balance? Younus Khan? I don’t even want to see him playing other than test matches.

    By tormented you mean distorted? Because, that word ‘torment’ doesn’t fit in that sentence. IGNORE? ME Or, YOU? Aur Wo bhee tum kaam kay bahanay bhaag jatay ho!

    Now that the cat is outta bag you are saying that it is good to be from THE OLD SCHOOL OF THOUGHT? Yeah, yeah chitt mai jeeta putt tum haaray. Or, even better: Gaddhay may girr ker taang oooper uthaa lee aur kaha…… Dekho mai nai girra!

  192. #192 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2012 - 5:41 PM

    100 runs required in 15 overs with 6 wickets in hand, Azhar Ali gone and Umar Akmal in, Misbah has for the first time in this series has improved his strike rate and brought it to 80 and if not increasing any further I hope he retains this strike rate to over come the pressure that is building up.

  193. #193 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2012 - 6:01 PM

    I dunno how Umar Akmal can get back ache and says he cannot play and then he is fit to play the next morning? This is the 3rd time this has happened. Is this a ploy to get his bro back in the team? Anyways, so far he is playing OK with scores on 170/4 in 38 overs. RRR is 6.75 one of them needs to stay till the end otherwise you see a collapse and that will be difficult to stop. Because, it is a long tail and with Afridi everything is possible. So, this is a crucial partnership.

  194. #194 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 15, 2012 - 6:04 PM

    Umar Akmal OUT, gone for 21 in 22 balls, he has been playing slapping shots and this time Patil got a low catch at covers. Partnership ended, blogger’s curse I guess?

  195. #195 by raju on February 15, 2012 - 6:33 PM

    stupid shot from afridi

    kheera palying test ckt
    match in balance

  196. #196 by raju on February 15, 2012 - 6:37 PM

    jk

    38 from 4 overs

    its all for kheera to play

  197. #197 by raju on February 15, 2012 - 6:47 PM

    dafaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ho beghairattttttttttttttttt doub mar

    nikal jaaa one day team sey

    laaanat terey game par

    tuff hae

    fittey mun

  198. #198 by raju on February 15, 2012 - 6:49 PM

    what nonsense knock that is

    47 from 60 balls

    put pressure on everyone

    a nonsense knock from loser captaann

    he should be removed from odi team

  199. #199 by raju on February 15, 2012 - 6:52 PM

    phuta baaja said rehman should retire

    nooooooooooo………..

    another mishap just like mohali

    cant hit, cant hit, this man cant hit

    a virtual liability

  200. #200 by raju on February 15, 2012 - 7:00 PM

    i dont blame rehman or afridi

    there is only one culprit- mishap ul butt

    on this performance, no team will induct mishap in their squad.

    Bu**s*hit

  201. #201 by Raju reporter on February 15, 2012 - 8:25 PM

    Pk team needs complete overhaul to win in odis. Tail is long,captain is buddha who cant slog,afridr is like a lottery ticket. No malak or razaq but new players are needed else odis would become unwinable.

  202. #202 by NewGuy on February 15, 2012 - 11:12 PM

    Well .. Misbah took the team so close and he alone stood there and scored 47 runs, Pakistan would have won had Afridi not got out playing a rash shot, and Rehman wasting 12 balls by not scoring. What are these guys thinking ?

  203. #203 by NewGuy on February 16, 2012 - 4:18 AM

    My last comment is a joke 🙂

    Pakistan lost because the top five batted slowly. It sounds like that was the game plan, to bat at 4 runs per over and lay a base, then go for it later. It never works like that in ODI, you have to keep with run rate, at least don’t let it go above 6.

    Misbah batted poorly as well and could not finish. Cannot blame Afridi or any of the lower order, because it is not their primary role and by the time they are coming match is already lost by top order.

    This game chase was is almost similar to the Mohali semi, I don’t think Misbah was trying to lose today since he is captain, yet he played same way, so I don’t think he was trying to lose that time either. He simply cannot play any better it seems.

    Time to think of retirement of few players that are all playing slow. YK and Misbah should perhaps concentrate only on Tests. It is clear they are not good ODI players.

  204. #204 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 16, 2012 - 6:06 AM

    Thanks NewGuy

    Finally you have summed up that Misbah and YK must focus only on test cricket because they are too slow and for ODI and T20. Along with them, 2 more players needs to go out permanently and they are Farhat and Malak. Players to come in are Hammad Azam for sure, the rest we discuss later.

    I watched the match in bits and bobs and wrote here that for the first time Misbah’s SR is above 80, it went up to 83. I wasn’t expecting Umar Akmal to score more than 30 runs, but I was expecting Misbah will some how reach his 50 with his tuk tuk. When Afridi came in he got a word from Misbah “Dekh ke Khel” meaning play cautiously.

    For a change Afridi blocked 7 balls and did not score but, on the other side Misbah also started dabbing and darting the ball with a dead bat and his SR started sliding to 75, it was then the impatient Akhroat Afridi hit a four and a six then a single. That was sensible to go to other end. BUT the next over against Anderson he played a Ch2 shot for which there was no need and was clean bowled. Had Misbah rotated the strike with singles he may not have got carried away. But, that is the way he plays with his Akhroat brain.

    Mr. Cool Cucumber should have carried the innings further like Ice Cool Dhoni but he couldn’t. And, here HAMMAD AZAM would have been handy. There was no need to play Aizaz Cheema, he plays him because they are buddies and I wonder what is wrong with poor Hammad Azam? This team had a long tail and no reliable, consistent batsman and you cannot win a match with bowlers alone especially if the team cannot score 250 runs.

    Shark Finn proved lethal once again and took 4 more wickets. The wicket is sending a message that it is good for fast bowlers as well as spinners. Patel is taking wickets whereas, PK bowlers who were so successful in tests are not so effective. WHY?

  205. #205 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 16, 2012 - 6:21 AM

    Drop of the day:

    “Alastair Cook had only made 28 when he edged a delivery from Shahid Afridi. It should have been a routine catch for the wicketkeeper but instead the ball bounced straight into and then straight out of the iron gloves of Umar Akmal. It was a reminder that, for all his ability as a batsman, Akmal is, at present, some way short of the required standard for an international keeper. Cook went on to score another 74 runs and play the match-defining innings. Pakistan must decide whether to persevere with Akmal in the hope of improvement or rethink the balance of their side. At present, Umar is losing them more games with the gloves than he is winning with the bat.” The above is a passage from cricinfo.

    The keeping problem continues, as long as the Khatmals are in the CHOOL they are going to bite. Any bowler irks a lot if a simple catch is dropped and Afridi being more emotional blows his top and bowls wayward. Although he did not bowl wayward yesterday but, there is a limit that simple catches are dropped by international players?

  206. #206 by Raju reporter on February 16, 2012 - 6:22 AM

    Jk

    250-260 is getable so bowling aint weak. Its batting thats the problem.

    Finally our msg seems to resonate that mishaps is misfit for odi.

  207. #207 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 16, 2012 - 6:26 AM

    Bhai 250-260 nahee bantay!
    Its too much of a target for these batters.

    The opening pair is slow and unreliable
    The middle order has no spine
    There is no late order big hitters anymore
    There is a long tail.

    So, Raju who else is saying Misfit is Misfit?

  208. #208 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 16, 2012 - 6:29 AM

    hahaha

    Look at Misbah’s exhaust fan and what he wrote on cricinfo: “Misbah should open the innings to keep wickets at hand from the very beginning, and after a sufficient amount of time, he can get himself out when the runs need to be paced.”

    This guy is a dreamer, he dreams in the cricket stadium when Misbah is batting LOL.

  209. #209 by Raju reporter on February 16, 2012 - 7:24 AM

    Jk

    good odi teams chase 250 odd.no team can win world cups if they cant chase such scores.

    The sooner mishap and othr khalifas go the better.

    Youth is the answer for both india and pk.

  210. #210 by Raju reporter on February 16, 2012 - 7:28 AM

    Jk

    this exhauist fan is deriding misbah by attaking his selfish nature. Times up buddhey,khus kum jahan pak.

  211. #211 by Mohammed Munir on February 16, 2012 - 8:48 AM

    Some domestic and younger players (including that Afridi’s favourite Shahzad) are playing well in BPL (Bangladesh Premier League).

    Imran Nazir is also there, so are may other Pakistanis.

    I miss Khansahab on LS, he use to always keep us well informed of Pakistani domestic scene as well as about upcoming Pakistani players. 😦

    Khansahab … where are thou ❓ 😉

    Look what have happened to your LS without you, it’s not the same anymore. 😦

  212. #212 by Mohammed Munir on February 16, 2012 - 8:51 AM

    Afridi got out because it was all Misbah’s mistake. 😉

    Catches dropped at Afrifi’s bowling, otherwise he would have taken 8/ 9 wickets atleast. 😉

    Afridi played so well … at least his strike rate was 100 (one of the highest). 😉

    So what if Afridi played totally irresponsible shot, like he always does, at least he tried. 😉

    What if Pakistan lost, Afridi played so well and he should have been MOM. 😉

    Afridi Sada Shair Hai, Baqi Haer Phair Hai. 😆 😛 😀

  213. #213 by Raju reporter on February 16, 2012 - 9:29 AM

    Mishap butt da shair hae

    ye mamla total haer phaer hae

    boundary buddhey se lagti nahi

    malak ki parchee rokni nahi

  214. #214 by raju on February 16, 2012 - 12:28 PM

  215. #215 by NewGuy on February 16, 2012 - 1:38 PM

    Javed Khan,

    Well .. when Afridi and Misbah were batting the match was almost beyond their reach, because in theory Afridi could win the match all by himself, even Cook said at that point anything was possible with Afridi batting. That was also the only point where I though Pakistan has a chance, because Afrid could clear the ropes so easily.

    That was when RR came to 38 off 44 balls, very much gettable, if he could hit another six or four in another over then Misbah could tuk tuk his way to the end, win the match and remain not out.

    However, I knew it was a 50 / 50 chance since Afridi could get out any time, he should be relied to win matches with batting, if he does well and good.

    So, while it is always possible with Afridi, I don’t see him as a batsman, or even as an all rounder who can be relied on to do that. Afridi is a bowler who bats and he is bowling really well, he can keep his place in the team with that alone.

    Coming to Misbah, did take the blame on top six in post match commentary. It is up to selectors to chop those who do not belong. I doubt Misbah is going to retire himself, neither will Younus Khan. Farhat and Malik are not future, so why are they there? India has Ravindra Jadeja and Vinay Kumar, players who are sometimes liabilities, but at least one can say they are youth and so can be tried with, and sometimes they perform with the ball. Malik and Farhat are simply liabilities.

    Pakistan cannot win ODI consistently with this team, that is for sure. Umar Akmal should be given chance to bat at #4 may be, because he isn’t going to finish the game, so at least play up the order and get the run rate going, so it doesn’t put pressure down the order.

    One more opener is needed, who can play shots and get early runs, even if he gets out sometimes, a stroke maker is required up the order.

    There are many changes required in this ODI team, simply reshuffling and bringing in one or two players won’t make any significant difference for future. Perhaps Afridi can be re -appointed captain with a younger team, especially the batting order. Even if they lose a few matches, they are losing with youth and giving them chance to improve in future. If they fail, can be tried with more youth. Oldies are not going to improve, and they are not future, so no point keeping them.

    Actually, Pakistan media should wake up and start asking these questions. What ever negative India media has, they would have been all over selectors and board if oldies are in ODI team like this playing tuk tuk and losing. Media should start asking.

  216. #216 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 16, 2012 - 3:24 PM

    Munir

    Your frustration is all over in your comments, whether you add smiley faces or not it is obvious that you are pissed off by the defeat and taking it out on Afridi. Why so much reliance on Afridi alone? He is a bowling all-rounder he has taken 8 wickets in 3 matches and a couple of the dolly catches have been dropped by the keeper. Against Afghanistan he did not get a chance to bat because the tuk tuk company took the score to 197 and won against the best team in the world.

    The second match or, the first ODI against England, Afridi took 2 crucial wickets, in fact he started the rot and clean bowled the two top order batsmen in no time and Missybaba changed him for whatever defensive or sinister reasons and his mastermind tactics he has on his brainless mind. A bowler when he takes wickets earlier on is in good rhythm and you don’t remove him especially in short formats but, the Budda has no mind to think. His bowling changes and his field placements are akin to his tuk tuk negative batting style.

    As for the batting in the first ODI, they all collapsed under 130 runs and who top scored then besides taking 2 wickets? I don’t remember his name Oh yes I got it it was Shoaib Malak.!!!!

  217. #217 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 16, 2012 - 3:37 PM

    NewGuy

    Due to immense criticism from the media and fans Malik was dropped because Misbah was forced to feel guilty as Malik did not perform once again, his 9th successive failure on the trot and he could not reach double figures. So, this was expected that he will be dropped and thanks God for that. But, the other two changes that he made in the team are also weird. He did not include a batsman (all-rounder) in Hammad Azam despite knowing that the batting is weak, he kept Farthat in the team and dropped Asad Shafiq.(doesn’t matter F. scored 47 from his edgy shorts but, he is very unreliable). Hafeez too is out of sorts he has not scored anything significant and he is neither consistent so, opening partnership is in doldrums as usual.

    Then he persisted with Umar Akmal as a wicket-keeper even after he was complaining of back strain, perhaps that was his usual ploy to get his other brother Adnan Akmal in the team as a wicket keeper and he stays in the team. As a captain Misbah should have seen this.

    Then he replaced Wahab Riaz with Aizaz Cheema purely on the basis of yaari dosti, everyone knows that they are buddies and he may have gotten 2 wickets but he is expensive, he is worst than Vinay Kumar for that matter. And, I do agree with you that from this short version of the game, the BUDDHAS must GO. Time to kick their ASS.

    By the way I have highlighted your comment on future captaincy and that is for MUNIR the goody, goody smiley face guy who is a bit frustrated at the moment.

  218. #218 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 16, 2012 - 3:44 PM

    Raju

    This is not new, this bunch of cowards always avoid the media and fans when they lose a match. They send escape goats to get the flak. And it was Hafeez this time.

    When Malak was Captain of the team touring India, he lost and avoided the media. Then he put his foot in his mouth and got injured and was saying he got it injured while playing soccer? YK was made the makeshift captain (because, Malik sent Afridi back home after the ODI whereas, Afridi had not retired from test cricket at that time and his test record in India was very good). So, one of the matches Pakistan won and Malik was not even playing, it was YK who was the makeshift captain, yet Malak came to the media room and was talking to the journalist to take the credit. Saalaa Meesna, selfish kaheen ka.

  219. #219 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 16, 2012 - 3:57 PM

    Munir

    Chalo ziyada ro nahee aao, ye Lolly Pop lay lo …… Misbah kay liyeh kion aansoo bahatay ho?

    TODAY he had a chance to win the match single handedly and get the title of ICE COOL MISBAH and he could have joined Dhoni’s club. Magar ye hona skaka aur ab ye Alam hai…….

    I cannot remember one single match which I can say Misbah has single-handedly won it for Pakistan. Not a single match. In fact he is not a finisher and he lost 3 WC matches single-handedly. One, against India in the T20 WC round match. Two, the final of T20 WC final. Three, the semi-final at Mohali last year. These are his achievements and he should be decorated with Gold Medals on his chest like that paper Tiger Gen. Niazi who went off to finish the war and himself got sunk like a skunk. And, made the whole country embarrassed. Never before in the history of the World such a massive surrender took place with such disgrace. It will go down in the history of these brave Niazi’s kay ye kitnay Bahadur thayy.

  220. #220 by Raju reporter on February 16, 2012 - 4:23 PM

    Jk

    abhi icons pe namak mat chidrko, bopara ke khyal mein cum back of pk is pashybull.

    Bhai tuk tuk cant win matches in eng,sa or australia,odi and t20.even he cant beat india in india.

    Yesterday he couldnt slog at all. Uncle javed was also cheeky single player but he was able to hit boundaries. Misbah is a mishap and his running away is a sign of things to come. I thnk hafeez should be made capt as a long term skipper.

  221. #221 by NewGuy on February 16, 2012 - 10:32 PM

    JK,

    Yeah, you may highlight selectively from my comment, like media sometimes do to misquote cricketers 🙂

    Anyway, when I said Afridi can be brought back, it was because there is no other option at this point may be, so he could be there for sometime while younger players are groomed.

    That said, yesterday’s match, he did play an irresponsible shot, he had taken 14 runs off previous over and they just needed to tap for singles and then wait for loose balls. But then that is what Afridi does. I wonder how long players like Afridi and Sehwag will be excused by saying that is their style.

    It is one thing for Afridi to do that if he is in team as a bowler who bats. Then he should come at #8. Not at #7. A number seven batsman is supposed to be an all rounder and so some responsible batting is expected

    Anyhow, Afridi has done that in some games.

  222. #222 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 17, 2012 - 1:51 AM

    Hafeez i s not captaincy material.

  223. #223 by Raju reporter on February 17, 2012 - 2:20 AM

    Then who should become captain?

    Suckmal or gul?

    Afridi is not ideal IMO!

    Anyway even if pk lose 4-0, i dont see mishapish sacking

  224. #224 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 17, 2012 - 6:51 AM

    Neither Gul nor Suckmals. Like Hafeez, Gul also doesn’t have the quality. In fact suckmals are a liability one way or the other and I am surprised they still have a fan base including bara khatmal? People are asking for his return.

    I may surprise most people by naming HAMMAD AZAM as future Captain of the Pakistan team. People might say he is not even in the team, yes he is not in the team because of NO fault of his. Give him a chance to prove his worth. If you want to build a team for the future, then the captain must be young and it is possible that he might become Graeme Smith because he has opened the innings if he can establish himself as an opener, he shall be solving at least 50% of the problem which Pakistan is facing to build decent and reliable openers. This is my “fishful” sinking, they will never do that.

    They will continue with Misbah as long as they can and Afridi will not get a chance for sure because, its the tendency of our people to label and brand certain players as bowling all-rounder or batting all-rounder. Afridi was and it is confirmed now that he is a bowling all-rounder. Abdul Razzaq was half and half and you cannot say for sure whether he is this or that. Malik ka tou shumar kisi may nahee, NA HE aon MAY NA SHE aon may he is in IT aon may! In fact, like Kamran Akmal, Shoaib Malik must not be playing cricket at all.

  225. #225 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 17, 2012 - 7:22 AM

    I was watching SA/NZ T20 and Ontong was on fire with 6 sixes in a row but that’s it. Duminiy who was playing well also got out. Ontong and Duminy brought some respectability to the total otherwise NZ were dominating the game.

    Australia / SL match is getting farcical because of Rain and Aus are 95/7

  226. #226 by Raju reporter on February 17, 2012 - 7:00 PM

    Azam chaheeta is rated highly by u

    what are his noteworthy performances;i dont know him?

  227. #227 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 17, 2012 - 10:52 PM

    LOL Raju neither Hammad Azam nor Afridi are my Chaheeta, nor does I really hate Misbah, I criticize or praise their game and their attitude.

    Hammad Azam is a young player and he played for PK under 19 and in West Indies he played very good some 90 odd runs and was playing like a good batsman, I saw him playing on TV so, from what I see i.e., his foot work and his shot selection etc., he is neither a slogger nor a tuk tuk player, very balanced and very calm not so calm like our Freezer wala kheera but, he can hit the ball far enough and hits it hard. Also, he is a pretty decent medium fast bowler, people say he is more like Abdul Razzaq of his prime.He is tall, athletic and looks like a player who can improve if given a chance. That is why I have been ranting that he should be given a chance. I don’t know what else do you see in a young player?

    I was told that he had problems with Waqar because, he is not a yes man and there is a Bhai Culture in the dressing room, you have to call every single senior your Bhai otherwise you are not showing respect. Even if you don’t like your captain, coach and manager you have to show respect towards them whether they treat you well or treat you like trash you cannot retaliate. In fact, if you are young and if you play well and as a batsman or a bowler and if you get an award, you MUST praise your seniors by saying so and so has encouraged me so much or, I have learned this from so and so or, so and so give me a “TIP”. This is the height of chukaaie or else you are not a good player. IMO, this Bhai Culture is a Vulture Culture and it must end. You find this Bhaiism only in the sub-continent and no where else.

    Apart from West Indies, Azam also single handedly won the match against Sri Lanka by scoring 63* in 54 balls.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/srilanka/content/story/474509.html

  228. #228 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 17, 2012 - 11:05 PM

    Munir

    You say you don’t have time for blogging but, you still keep yourself updated by watching this BPL, SHE PL stuff, I have not even heard of that stuff before in fact after you wrote that Afridi’s favourite Shahzad playing well in BPL. In fact, that very same day, my friend Z.G. who is in Toronto these days talked to me on phone about BPL and Shahzad and, he was saying, since Shahzad is playing well, he scored faster than Gayle etc., etc. therefore, he should be brought in to the team as an opener! I asked him and why not Hammad Azam? BTW, Afridi is not ZG’s favourite player, in fact he was criticizing Afridi for that rash shot so you please don’t assume that we agree on everything despite being such close friends.

    Raju, there goes my point, if Ahmad Shahzad was given so many chances, why don’t they give Hammad Azam a few chances to prove his worth?

  229. #229 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 18, 2012 - 5:54 AM

    KEVIN PIETERSEN has given an interview to the Door Bell Boy in Dubai and he feels: “”Umpires are giving a lot more lbws. It just has to be clipping and you’re out. Two, three, four years ago you were never, ever out. I have had to change my game, but it’s not just me. Left-arm spinners now are gold dust.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-england-2012/content/current/story/554086.html

    There is one point that is to be noted from the above link that in the Pakistan team there is only one left arm spinner in Abdur Rehman, as far as I remember after Iqbal Qasim there haven’t been a left arm successful spinner in the Pakistan team, having one left arm spinner in the team is an asset.

    Fawad Alam (25 yrs old) apart from being a decent batsman and an excellent fielder he is also a slow left arm orthodox bowler but, he was seldom given a chance to bowl the only partial appearances that he made are, as a 12th man or as a reserve player. And, now he has gone into oblivion like Asim Kamal. Fawad Alam, as an opener made 168 on his test debut against Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka — first PK batsman to make a century outside Pakistan on a debut — and his ODI average of 37 odd runs is better than Malik and Akmals. Besides, his fielding is so good that he saves several runs also contributes in run outs. There are 2 reasons for his ouster from the team, he is from Karachi and not Punjab and he has no sifarish or parchee.

    Now, the importance of left arm spinners and their effectiveness is being talked about internationally owing to the introduction of more and more DRS, the PCB selectors should also rethink about giving Fawad Alam a chance in the new young team i.e., if they have to build a new young team OR, continue with Buddhaz like Misbah and Younus Khan? Saeed Ajmal is 35 and may last for a couple of years more. Afridi and Abdur Rahman both will be 32 on March 01 this year i.e., two 11 days from now. They might last for 4-5 years more. Therefore, the need of finding young talented players on merit should be on the forefront of the agenda not only them a young captain needs to be groomed to take the team from 2015 and beyond.

    But Butt’s policy is practiced in which his motto was: “Kal ki murghi say aaj ka Undaa bhalaa.” Who is aaj ka Undaa?

  230. #230 by Raju reporter on February 18, 2012 - 8:20 AM

    Relax man chahéeta was just a tafreeish thing.

    But afridi is ur chaheeta,no question.if we conduct a referendum in ICONISTAN, we will find 100% public saying afridi is ur chaheeta 😉

  231. #231 by Raju reporter on February 18, 2012 - 8:25 AM

    Andaa is a GANDA ANDAA with cucumber seeds all ouer its chilka.

    And on it is written

    End of player power, this is butt’s power

  232. #232 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 18, 2012 - 8:51 AM

    Probably my so-called “Chaheeta, Hammad Azam” might play in today’s match. Abdur Rehman may not get a chance because of his poor performance in the 2nd ODI, wicket less plus 12 dot balls ….. Although Misbah had higher number of dot balls and he seldom bowls, off and on drop catches because he has bucket like hands (ramiz says) yet, he will be leading the team.

    Ajmal too has not impressed in the 2nd ODI took only 1 for 54 but, it is not likely that he has been explored by the Englishmen, I think he will bowl better. Afridi my so-called second “designated” chaheeta or ch2ya???? has always played well in Dubai, so it is likely that he will continue with that and defy the law of averages and not bowl badly and not get out stupidly, but being a ch2 you cannot predict about him.

    There is also a chance that Misbah’s Chaheeta Malak might get a second chance and he will play.

    Let us see.

  233. #233 by Raju reporter on February 18, 2012 - 12:06 PM

    Cooo..l performance

    kheera… Zindabad

    log kahtey hain slow mat khelo,to mein wapis agaya

    waj a performance

    The best thing happened to pk and ijaz butt
    haha!
    50/4!

  234. #234 by Raju reporter on February 18, 2012 - 12:19 PM

    Regardless of outcome of this match, pk needs to kick out these batters and rebuild a team 4 odi ckt. Azam, moazam, shazam etc just try new people.youth is the key, not budda party.

  235. #235 by Raju on February 18, 2012 - 2:47 PM

    Kahan hain mishap ke saprouter aur afridi ke naqqad?
    Farq saaf zahir hae 😉

  236. #236 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 18, 2012 - 3:04 PM

    Farq saaf zahir hai ……… Ek Sabun say Dhulla aur ek Surf say!

  237. #237 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 18, 2012 - 3:18 PM

    220-230 ki team hai, they played up to their batting potential. Expecting anything more from this batting side is like asking “Mujh ko taaray laakay dou, mujh ko saaray laakay dou.”

    Before the match I wrote here that “Afridi has always played well in Dubai, so it is likely that he will continue with that and defy the law of averages and not bowl badly and not get out stupidly, but being a ch2 you cannot predict about him.” He batted well but got out stupidly and once again getting clean bowled by Jimmy Anderson.

    Their batting was below par because of sub-standard batsmen in the team but, there is a possibility that they have a chance to win here because, England shall be batting under the lights for the first time in this ODI series and I expect things to be different. Until and unless Gul gives a Dhukka Start to this team, there is another century that is going to be Cooked. Because, IMO the Chef has somewhat got the knack of playing the spin and rest are still struggling. If he is trapped by Gul, the chances of others scumming against the spin is very likely in the nightly conditions. The match has just started and the Cook has placed his first ball, first run on the burner.

  238. #238 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 18, 2012 - 3:25 PM

    Kool Kheera is always hanging and dangling from its creeper and here he was dangling his bat in the air and edged Broad in to the slips. That was his batting, while fielding I dunno what is he going to dangle? May be his bucket like hands which Ramiz Raja is always admiring, perhaps Misbah is good in using them.

  239. #239 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 18, 2012 - 3:51 PM

    GUL has compensated for his 27*, now as a bowler his third of the innings which is a 10 ball over, he gifted 15 runs to England on a silver platter and the momentum has shifted in 5 overs England has scored 40 runs an average of 8.00 per over and here is that treacherous over:

    4.6 Umar Gul to Cook, no run
    4.5 Umar Gul to Cook, no run, 137.9 kph, length, tight off-stump line and Cook again shoulders arms
    4.4 Umar Gul to Cook, no run, 137.9 kph
    4.3 Umar Gul to Cook, no run, he gets it right this time, outside off stump, and left
    4.2 Umar Gul to Cook, SIX, 122.0 kph, shot! That’s the best of the lot! It was slightly back of a length but not too short … Cook, however, danced back half a yard and KABOOMed a huge pull over deep midwicket!
    4.2 Umar Gul to Cook, (no ball) FOUR, 143.3 kph, goes for yorker length outside off but Cook gets down to the pitch and crashes through cover. And Gul has overstepped again! Free hit for Cook this time …
    4.2 Umar Gul to Cook, 1 no ball, 139.7 kph, down the leg side – and he’s overstepped again. Gul is all over the place at the moment, trying a wee bit too hard
    4.1 Umar Gul to Pietersen, 1 run, 122.0 kph, fuller length, outside off and Pietersen doesn’t properly connect with a hook to midwicket
    4.1 Umar Gul to Pietersen, 1 no ball, 140.0 kph, outside off and defended … but Gul had overstepped. Free hit coming up
    4.1 Umar Gul to Pietersen, 1 wide, 140.0 kph, length, angled in from wide on the crease but swinging too far down leg

  240. #240 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 18, 2012 - 3:58 PM

    Instead of giving a Dhukka Start to his own team, Gul has given a Dhukka Start to the English team and they have capitalized it very well, from now onward, until and unless there is a miracle from the spinners, there is no saving and it will be a 3-0 and I won’t be surprised if it will be 4-0 Because, the English confidence is high and Pakistan batting woes continue.

    If they lose this match, then they will be some changes, perhaps they will include Hammad Azam and IF Pakistan lose 4-0 then there will be wholesale changes in the ODI team under dangling cool Kheera’s captaincy.

  241. #241 by NewGuy on February 18, 2012 - 4:30 PM

    Javed Khan,

    England are 91/0 at this time in response to Pakistan’s below par 222. KP looks like regained his touch and now hit a SIX off Afridi back over his head.

    Unless some terrible collapse happens I don’t think England can lose from here.

    Pakistan need to bat better, just stating the obvious.

  242. #242 by NewGuy on February 18, 2012 - 5:07 PM

    It’s going bad for Pakistan needless to say, Peterson and Cook are playing with the bowling, I wonder why Misbah is not able to make some field placements and stop the run flow. KP, just hit another huge SIX after hitting a FOUR in same over.

  243. #243 by raju on February 18, 2012 - 6:07 PM

    this is the difference btw beating minnows and facing top teams

    Mishap has been PISSHAPPED!

  244. #244 by raju on February 18, 2012 - 6:14 PM

    chalo jee green waash ki tarf mamla ja raha hae

  245. #245 by Ali Ahad on February 18, 2012 - 6:42 PM

    I think the M&M’s charm has been over, it’s time to make some big and bold moves, drop captain cool, YK, damad, chota and the sialkoti parchee. Make professor the capatain and open with the new guy Zia or bring lala up the order or do what Woolmer used to do open with him in sub-continent and down the order in rest of the world. Let Umar do the keeping and then we can adjust a batsman or a bowler according to the need. We really need to do a team wash after the ODI white wash.

  246. #246 by raju on February 18, 2012 - 6:48 PM

    and enouhg of the saqmals. today the third saqmal dropped catches. this khandaan has ruined pk cricket.

  247. #247 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 18, 2012 - 8:24 PM

    Ali Ahad, good to see you back to the blog after a long time. Well, people say that here on this blog we are the first one to cry wolf if something goes wrong ONLY once? It is not that we cry wolf and neither this is the first time PK has faceds such humiliation. Besides, there are people who have blinkers on their eyes or they have fat on their eyes (aankhaon pay charbee) that they cannot see openly and clearly, they see it with baysharmi, dhittayee and Butteye and that is why they are unfair in team selection. Also, because they are bayghairat, dheet and cheap.

    Younus Khan was dropped good, his replacement Asad Shafiq got run out bad luck, Imran Farhat cannot be dropped as long as his ugly father in law is there. But, why two Akmals? One plays decently the other rots. Earlier I said that Adnan should be given a chance if Umar is having back problems. But, suddenly the chota is up and about and started keeping the wickets. Cheema is Missy’s buddy, you have tried him in tests OK, but don’t persist with him in ODIs or T20. Gul is like this only, one day he is an extra-ordinary player and, the next day he drops that extra and himself behaves like an extra in the team.

    Professor is not captaincy material and his form was more like a “Desert Spring” which came and went off with the dust storm. I don’t want PK should even think of making him a captain he will become another drag in the team like Misbah is. Let him play as he is playing without giving him that extra burden.

    If Finn can trouble the top order in these conditions — which he did so well in every single ODI and cleaned the top order — then imagine facing him in England in swinging conditions, he can clean the entire batting line up easily.

  248. #248 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 18, 2012 - 8:32 PM

    NewGuy

    This whole series should be renamed as WHITEWASH SERIES because, in the test matches you have seen the result and that was a kinda sense of complacency that the PK team got after winning it and creating history. Pakistan has the honour of creating heroes, rebuilding the form of a hero be it a batsman or a bowler. Remember Ponting’s form was nose diving and they were talking about axing him and retiring him. Then, the unsung hero who has recently been released from the jail was “Chokri Tarring” near the boundary and dropped a lolly pop catch when Ponting was on zero, Ponting made a double hundred, regained his lost form and is still playing strong and that was more than 2 years ago.

    In more than 2 years Pietersen scored only 3 fifties and played so badly throughout the tests in six innings he scored 68 runs an average of just 11 runs and today he regained his form and is not out on Nelson Square. Hammered sixes and fours and now he will do the same in the next match and in the T20 as well.

  249. #249 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 18, 2012 - 8:35 PM

    Raju

    You better send him a few dozen cartons of adult Pampers before the flood gates are opened and the news headlines will be: “Dubai sunk and skunked” ‘ and people will ask WHATHAPPED?

  250. #250 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 18, 2012 - 8:43 PM

    NewGuy

    You have asked, “I wonder why Misbah is not able to make some field placements and stop the run flow?” Because, Misbah does not have the ability to set a field according to the situation. The only thing he has on his mind is “Defense is the best mode of Offence.” That is the opposite of that well known expression and because Misbah has a reverse mentality and he applies in every department of the game like his reverse sweep and reverse flick. He doesn’t bowl but, his tactics are defensive, he sets defensive field and he bats defensively, collectively it is — negativity.

  251. #251 by Raju on February 18, 2012 - 8:50 PM

    Dubai sinking and stinking!

    Im not his pankha,i dont like namak haram people who delhberately lose matches and then are made capt.

    Diapers should be sent by his pankhas who blindly praise him.in 3 matches Pisshab has scored 62 runs-hun people calld him cool & stability provider.

    He’s a spent force infact he wasnt a force. Why all silence and nobody defends him now and accused of afridism. I dont see any poetry for this paki bradman now.

    Chalo dubai mein kishti tere gi najasat mein 😆

  252. #252 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 19, 2012 - 3:15 AM

    DAWN may Gillani ghuss gaya! I am sick of seeing his face everyday on the cover of DAWN newspaper.

    Australia won the toss and elected to bat. Let us see what India has to do today?

    Misbah is DISAPPOINTED note because they lost but because Kaneria’s reported involvement in match fixing. So, he is diverting his disappointment from losing 3 consecutive ODI games to Kaneria’s case.

    BTW, no one is saying Afridi played a decent innings today and once again he is the top scorer for the second time in 3 matches. But, his one shot in the second ODI has been criticized by millions of people that he played an irresponsible innings. What about Kheera?

  253. #253 by NewGuy on February 19, 2012 - 5:08 AM

    I followed little bit of Ind-Aus, but can’t follow anymore, will check scores in the morning. Should be interesting to see how the match panned out.

    Ponting tuk tuked to 7 runs from 26 balls, and Wade is tuk tukking now, there are many followers of Tuk Tuk all over the world. This is a pandemic.

    Why are oldies like Ponting, Younis Khan, Tendulkar, so on still persisting. Even if they come good in some matches, say in case of Tendulkar has potential, and Ponting may be, what is the point? They are not future. High time oldies world over retire and let younger players come in.

    Ponting should go now.

  254. #254 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 19, 2012 - 8:28 AM

    NewGuy

    I was also following the India Australia match partially on my cell phone and at 217/4 in 43 overs I turned it off and when I checked again it was 284 for 5 and the last ball was to be bowled by Irfan Pathan who took 3 wickets and Dhoni faltered it by going to the wrong side and it went for 4 leg byes and Australian innings ended @ 288/5. It means 69 runs were scored in the last 7 overs, almost 10 per over and I think it would be a difficult task for India especially with Gambhir and Tendulkar gone cheaply, India are 15/2.

    I was talking to someone from India and when I mentioned about Tendulkar he said, don’t say Tendulkar say Pondtikar. I said, I dunno the meaning and he explained Pondti means Manhoos and Pondtikar is one who spreads Manhoosiyat. I wonder if you know the meaning of Manhoos? I think it means those who are cursed or something. Whatever, today he was out for 3, Gambhir for 5 and just now Rohit Sharma has gone for a duck. Buddha Lee in his quickfire got 2 wickets in 3 overs. India reeling now 17/3 we have to wait and see what ICE COOL DHONI has to do because there is a huge ICEBERG AHEAD.

  255. #255 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 19, 2012 - 8:34 AM

    On Lee taking 2 wickets, I can understand that India does not have that great many fast bowlers yet in the past, especially during Gavaskar’s time he played against the mighty West Indies and their legendary fast bowlers — probably the best in the world at that time and Gavaskar scored heavily against them.

    About Pakistan, I am quoting below comments from one of my friends: “What i dont get is when Pakistanis claim they have the best fast bowlers, and express fast bowlers (they) are in good numbers in domestic cricket, why are they rubbish vs pace when they play Brett Lee, Steyn, Finn etc?”

  256. #256 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 19, 2012 - 8:45 AM

    NewGuy

    If Ponting plays against Pakistan, he will stay there for another 5 years because, they will let him score freely. I wonder where Pakistan is going after this series? I know England is going to Sri Lanka and India. I think in the best interest of Misbah and the PCB, they should go to Kenya, Ireland, Bermuda, Namibia and back to the UAE and have a 7 test series and 5 ODIs and 3 T20’s.

    Then Misbah will be in the GuineASS book of world records.

    Ps
    Oooooooops I forgot to mention ABC — Afghanistan, Bangladesh and CANADA !

  257. #257 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 19, 2012 - 8:49 AM

    KOHLI gone too, India 36/4 and here comes the ICEBERG LETTUCE DHONI let us see — he is off the mark with a single on the 3rd ball.

    Right now, India require another 244 runs with 6 wickets and 36.0 overs remaining RRR is 6.77. I better go and sleep and check the result in the morning, in any case the writing is on the wall LOUD AND CLEAR and one can only pin up hopes on MIRACLES.

  258. #258 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 19, 2012 - 8:59 AM

    SOUTH AFRICA LEVI-TATED

    Amazing batting by Levi, he hit 13 SIXES and 5 fours 117* in 51 balls. Even more surprising is they achieved the target of 174 in 16 overs. NewZealand were perhaps thinking that after making 173 they have secured the match but, it is all over in 16 overs. I wonder why Ross Taylor is not playing?

  259. #259 by Mohammed Munir on February 19, 2012 - 10:04 AM

    Pakistan lost the third ODI and with that the series, not a good news. 😦

    It was more of collective ‘bad-performance’ and almost everyone contributed to the destruction. Some contributed in this defeat with the bat, some with fielding and some with their bowling. The management (may be even Misbah as a captain) will have to take the responsibility for not playing Hammad Azam and some other silly mistakes. I really fail to understand the mentality of Pakistani management not to play this guy, because it is not the first time that Hammad is being left out. He had been to many tours without being given real chance to show his talent and this has happened under different captains/ coaches/ managements.

    Some questions like why Farhat played, why Hammad did not play, why Cheema was included, why Yunus Khan was dropped etc. will be hard to answer. Unfortunate, but this is the way Pakistan cricket has been and will continue to run even in future. IMO, Misbah is still not that strong as a captain and nor is he a strong character to dictate terms and make all the decisions by himself, but his haters will surely think otherwise.

    On the other hand, I was at the stadium watching the game live, and I must say that Shahid Khan Afridi played an absolutely great innings. What I liked the most was that Afridi played against his natural game and was taking a lot of responsibility and kept rotating the strike with Akmal. It was unlucky for Pakistan that both set players, him and Umer Akmal, got out in quick succession. Even Gul batted well after a long time and contributed with some valuable runs toward the end, but in the end the total was too small to have any real chance of winning this game.

    Bowling, well not anyone in particular but the entire bowling line-up failed miserably. Be it Gul, Cheema, Afridi, Hafeez or even Ajmal they all were below par, or may be the batting England side was too good for them to get any wickets.

    Finally, it is not the end of the world and hope the team regains some of the lost form and competes better for the remaining games. If I am correct, I guess this is Pakistan’s first ODI series loss for a long time, and we are loosing to a better and well prepared team, so no need to show your anger and frustration all over the place.

  260. #260 by Raju on February 19, 2012 - 10:49 AM

    Yes mishap is a flop,meek captain and a batsman. Thats what we always said he’s not fit to be in the team and strong teams will bust this buble of stability.

    Salahudin sallu says sifarish pe team bananey ka yehi anjaam hota hae
    shame kheera, u always sell team interests over friendship, selfishness.

  261. #261 by Mohammed Munir on February 19, 2012 - 1:03 PM

    Javed Khan …

    Your comment no. 216 …

    The reliance on Shahid Afridi is off course higher than Misbah, because he is a better player than Misbah … right ❓

    As per you, Misbah is a mediocre player while Afridi is the world-class bowler and have scored the highest runs in two out of three ODIs so far, this is why we have to have more reliance on our key performers. 😉

    But lately, the bowling all-rounder have become more of a batting all-rounder, isn’t it ❓ 😛

    BTW, you often think (and may be believe also) that Afridi was removed by Misbah from bowling due to some ‘sinister’ reasons while on Afridi’s bowling ‘dolly’ catches may also be dropped by the keepers due to some hidden motives. Well, if it really is so then in that case is it totally out-of-place to think that Afridi, Umer Gul and Younis Khan “MAY BE” intentionally under-performing to fail Misbah’s captaincy ❓

    I hate myself for thinking on these lines, but the only reason I posed this question is that (according to you) if few other groups of players can do something sinister then technically it is possible that even these guys may also do it … right ❓ (This question is asked only as a counter argument, and I seriously think they can not do such a thing in a team). 😦

    Regarding your comments on frustration and getting pissed-off, well my dear JAK, a very simple thing is that feelings of “Frustrations and Pissed-off” are NEVER shown with smiley faces, jokes, or sarcastic comments.

    The purest feelings of frustration and being pissed-off are revealed when someone starts calling bad names, cursing, swearing, blaming and abusing players.

    Need I say anything more on who is doing that ❓ 😆

  262. #262 by Mohammed Munir on February 19, 2012 - 1:04 PM

    Javed Khan …

    Your comment no. 219 …

    Well this comment was a real shocker as I was truly surprised that you have dragged the name of General Niazi (only because he is also a Niazi like Misbah) to support your arguments. This to me is not the Javed Khan I know, I am sorry. 😦

    I mean seriously, dose it make any difference to you that Misbah is carrying the same sir-name, Niazi, like that general who surrendered in Dhaka ❓ Because frankly speaking, this doesn’t bother me one bit.

    That general made a mistake, but is it sensible to blame Misbah or the entire Niazi clan today for that surrender over 4 decades ago ❓

    I am sorry to say this and please correct me if I am wrong here, but will this not qualify as being bias or even racist in first-world cultures ❓

    And BTW, how many years are enough for us to get over anybody’s mistake ❓ I mean are we justified in calling someone ‘skunk’ because he surrendered over 40 years back ❓ May be the guy is even dead by now.

    Lastly, your comment about Lollypop was really funny and it made me smile. 😉

  263. #263 by Mohammed Munir on February 19, 2012 - 1:06 PM

    Javed Khan …

    Your comment no. 229 …

    On BPL/ VPL (not, she P L), actually I am living in Sharjah (UAE) which is geographically very close to Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka as well as Bangladesh; so we know what is happening all around us this part of the world, this is like you being more aware of what is happening in USA. Secondly, I almost daily meet someone or another from these countries and thus we may at times discuss cricket. Thirdly, I am still not so disheartened from Pakistani team to have totally disconnected all my TV subscriptions, in fact I have many channels from 2/ 3 separate satellites and so whoever is watching whatever games at home, I unintentionally get frequent updates.

    I am sorry to disappoint you, but I sure am very busy these days and actually have much less time for blogging but still I try to keep my contributions on LS somehow; because I like it here, whereas I don’t make any special efforts to follow-up BPL or other domestic cricket scene.

    Therefore, on this BPL issue, my situation is different from someone sitting on the other end of the world in Canada and not having the TV subscriptions to watch the live games, and who will have to follow it probably on cricinfo or at best on internet. 😉

  264. #264 by Mohammed Munir on February 19, 2012 - 1:07 PM

    Javed Khan …

    So you believe that Misbah is definitely useless as a captain, same way you think Hafeez is also not ‘captain material’, you also said Gul too is not good enough for captainship, and so are the ‘suckmals’.

    Whereas surprisingly you have mentioned the name of Hammad Azam who is not even in the playing eleven and is touring for years without being given any decent chances by many earlier captains/ coaches, and still you are suggesting his name as future captain ❓

    – Do you seriously think that Hammad have the confidence to be a captain ❓

    – Will these seniors like Yunis Khan, Misbah, Hafeez, Afridi, Ajmal, etc. will agree to play and more importantly ‘perform’ under a new/ young captain ❓

    – Are we not aware of player-power and revolts against captains in Pakistan ❓ And still do you want the same scenario again ❓

    – Hammad is untested talent is it sensible to still go ahead and make him a captain of Pakistan team ❓

    I think you should try to simply avoid all these questions and ‘cut the long story short’ by saying that … remove Misbah and reinstate Shahid Afridi as captain again. 😉

    This is what you are wishing deep inside … right ❓ 😛

  265. #265 by Raju on February 19, 2012 - 1:19 PM

    Wah jee wah

    baap ko chaurahey per zaleel karo to sab mazey lete hain

    magr puttar ko aanch na aae

    is blog per butt ke lye MPD aur Ukp jaise lafz use huey to sub thaattey maar ke hans rahe they

    ab uski aulad ko piss lag gaya to takleef ho rahi hae

    jee munafiqat to hamari qaum mein koot koot kar bhari hui hae.

    Baharhal namak haram insaan ko zillat hi milni chaye.

  266. #266 by Raju on February 19, 2012 - 1:28 PM

    Jk

    meetha meetha hup hup

    kadrwaa kadrwaa thu thu

    jo aadmi galiyon pe mazey leta ho aur phir apne chaheeton ki takleef par akhlaqiat ka dars deta hae, wo apni Shikast ka gila karta hae.

    Mujhe achi tarh yaad hae jab butt zaleel hota tha to lol aur icon ki tafreeh hoti thi aur mishap ke piss pe AKHLAQ yad aagya.

    Agar itna hi akhlaq ka lihaz hae to butt ki zillat ko kyu nahi roka,ab pishap ke lye diaper dhondey ja rahe hain.

    Bhai such kadrwaa hota hae, bardasht karna chahiye.

  267. #267 by Raju on February 19, 2012 - 1:47 PM

    Lol

    being so busy for not having time to blog
    butta
    having the time to watch match in stadium for a 3rd balatkar 😆

  268. #268 by Raju on February 19, 2012 - 1:48 PM

    Balatkar of cucumber cool 😛

  269. #269 by NewGuy on February 19, 2012 - 2:29 PM

    Javed Khan,

    Well, India lost very badly, after two close games they ended up being very lethargic here. When I last saw Aussies were 100 in 25 overs, I was surprised to see how they ended up on 288. Although this is possible in ODI, given how Aussies were not batting great in ODI of late, India bowled poorly.

    To top it off, they just saw Hilfenhaus back and gave him a five-for. Old horse Lee taking 3 wickets is even worse.

    Tendulkar matched Ponting in tuk tuk, and got 3 off 12 balls. Tendulkar should stop this disgrace and leave. Why don’t he get it. It has nothing to do with the hundred hundred I believe, age has simply caught up, he has lost his reflexes and at 38 years, he simply is not able to move his feet to the pitch of the ball, his hands are not moving fast enough and his eye sight is poorer.

    22 years is too much already, and he does not realize this, because he do not have a life without playing cricket for India. He debuted in India cap at age 16 and since then he has not other life. He cannot quit like an addict he needs help from selectors to place a gentle hand on the shoulder. I wonder why his family does not advice him to stop. They surely must know.

    As for Ponting, Australian selectors will decide soon enough if he continues like this. They will cut his ODI career for sure. They have given longer life to Ponting than any other player. But he too just don’t get it, and want to keep playing. Aussies selectors though will pull the plug at some point. Indian selectors much less so.

    India has to bat better, needless to say.

  270. #270 by Raju on February 19, 2012 - 2:42 PM

    While i was chkng cricinfo aus vs india,it dawnnd upon me that something is missing-tendkar. Nobody here or anywhere talks about him and his hundred talk has finished.
    Sad and nothing negative but its not nice to see a great perish like that.

  271. #271 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 19, 2012 - 4:10 PM

    Munir

    First of all thank you very much for taking out time from your ‘undoubtedly busy schedule’ and answering my questions point by point from every single comment that I made in the past few days. This is very enlightening for us that you with your expertise and judicious knowledge as well as the first hand information that you gave us from the stadium, without which we would have remained in the dark. You showed us the light in the tunnel which unfortunately is the train coming from the opposite direction!

    Secondly, I must say that you have an excellent ability to scan my brain and my heart and read my mind and check my feelings, so next time if I have to go to the doctor, I will avoid that and seek your able guidance.

    Thirdly, I am sorry if I have “tormented” your feelings by asking you, “By tormented you mean distorted?” Because, you wrote, “but just few facts which are otherwise tormented and IGNORED.” My intention was not to make fun of your English or even you per se. But ask anyone and see what they will tell you? Because, facts could be distorted and not tormented. You are mistaken to even think that I really want to make fun of your English (except for commentators — especially Waqar). I am not an English teacher and neither there is any intention of correcting you or anyone else but, I only asked for clarification. If I had to correct that sentence grammatically (which I will not do for anyone) I would have said, it is just “a” few and not ‘just few’.

    Thank you for pointing out the mistake in my comment number 225 it should have either been written as, “written” or, I should have deleted the word ‘has’ in that sentence. It happens, to err is human and I am not as meticulous as you are and I don’t type my comments in Microsoft Word first to check the spellings and then copy paste it here. Like you don’t have time — moi aussi — sometimes I am also in a hurry and without reading it again I post my comment.

  272. #272 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 19, 2012 - 4:32 PM

    Munir

    Thank you very much once again for your deep analysis on the captaincy issue. Appointing a young captain is a need for the future and in my opinion Hammad Azam will be the right person. Whether anyone agrees with me or not is not my problem. I don’t understand why you have to give me a lecture on this subject? Please read that comment again and if not I will copy paste it here for you:

    “I may surprise most people by naming HAMMAD AZAM as future Captain of the Pakistan team. People might say he is not even in the team, yes he is not in the team because of NO fault of his. Give him a chance to prove his worth. If you want to build a team for the future, then the captain must be young and it is possible that he might become Graeme Smith because he has opened the innings if he can establish himself as an opener, he shall be solving at least 50% of the problem which Pakistan is facing to build decent and reliable openers. This is my “fishful” sinking, they will never do that.”

    Is it not clear? Have I not surprised you? But, you skim read my comments because, I have also mentioned that people will question that he is not in the team and you want to make him a captain? And you are questioning me. I have cited the example of Graeme Smith and I have also emphasized that this is my wishful thinking and they (the PCB) will never do it.

    When I wrote that comment, on my mind it was about the future team and not the existing buddass like Misbah and Younus Khan. Among those who may retire in a few years like, Hafeez, Afridi, Gul or Ajmal have any problems in playing under a young captain then they should opt out and join retirees club. Or, play BD. Phaar League and make money and be happy. Like spot fixing and match fixing is not tolerated anymore, revolts and ganging up against a captain should also be treated the same way by the respective cricket boards, because this issue is not the ICC’s domain, it is the PCB or any other cricket board if their players revolt against their captain. The Board must back the captain they have appointed and it should not be on match to match or on a series to series basis. It should be for a period of time. Like Malak was appointed for a period of 2 years and irrespective of his repeated failures he retained his poiyen bakaoz he is such a sucker.

  273. #273 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 19, 2012 - 4:44 PM

    NewGuy

    On India’s defeat all I can say is, they have lost the consistency and the appetite to win. Either it is due to lack of focus or, their loyalties have shifted from the game towards ‘too much money’? They are more concerned about playing for the IPL than for the country. Jaddu the best all rounder and Vinay Kumar the new find are an example. The poker faced, ice cool Dhoni may not show his emotions but, he too is doing the same. And, the less we talk about Tendulkar is better for us and better for cricket. He is a god for his fans but, his god is money and he will play for a few more years like you have said, he has signed contracts for 2 more years and he is obliged to play for his sponsors.

    A few Pakistani players have got contracts signed with the BPL and those who have not been selected for the national team are already playing in that league. I have been told that Afridi has also been selected to play for the BPL so, physically he may be in the UAE but, mentally he may be in Bangladesh?

  274. #274 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 19, 2012 - 4:51 PM

    Munir

    Are you missing khansahab to get some sport? Ooops I mean support. I will convey your message to him through email that you are badly needed here and Munir is sending you SOS messages.

  275. #275 by raju on February 19, 2012 - 7:27 PM

    jk

    check out the blog and the cumments

    only 1 % were against mishap

    huuun ……………

    missso beta dunya gol hae

    jab semi final haraya tha, tub tumhari baachey khilii hui thi

    paki awaam bohotg KHURAAAANT hae, jab izzat deti hae to aasmaaa par chdaaati hae aur jab zaleel karti hAe to guttwr mein

    jo boyaa wo kaaato

    ab public tumhaari balii mangegi.

  276. #276 by raju on February 19, 2012 - 7:30 PM

    eh shorrryy forgatv to poast the link here it is

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/19/home-sickness-a-factor-for-lackluster-performance-misbah.html

    koi weerani se weeerani hae

    3-0 khakey ghar yaad ayaaa

    asal misraaa ye tha, dasht ko dekh ke ghar yaaad aya

    waisey mishap ye bhi kah sakata hae

    BUTT KO DEKH KE APNA YAAD AYA

  277. #277 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 20, 2012 - 2:07 AM

    NewGuy

    My comment #275 that I wrote about IPL, BPL especially about Pakistani players keenness to play in these leagues has been highlighted in today’s newspaper DAWN. This is 20 hours after I have posted my comment here. This is the link:

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/19/players-want-sl-itinerary-revised-in-view-of-t20-leagues.html

    You see they are asking the PCB to change the SL itinerary bakaoz they want to play BPL and make money. This demand is being made while they are playing a series in the UAE so, how can you say their focus is on the game? There are about 18 Pakistani players who are playing in BPL. This is what money is doing to these players and by commercializing cricket they are ruining the game.

  278. #278 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 20, 2012 - 2:11 AM

    Raju — I think the PK team has already lost the 4th ODI after losing the first one. And, the way they are playing and while their focus is on BPL, I doubt their performance will match with English players when they play the 3 T20’s next week. One of my friends has invited me to watch ALL three T20’s at his place and arranging brunch parties and I told him not to waste the day by watching a spineless batting team.

    The same question once again, “Are they going to give Hammad Azam a chance in the 4th ODI or will he remain a mere spectator?” I am sure this question must be irritating sorry, tormenting a lot of people. (tongue in cheek)

  279. #279 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 20, 2012 - 2:49 AM

    Raju — sirf weerani nahee jamadarni bhee phaintee lagaye gee kisi din.

    Ugg reha hai dur-o-deewar pay sabza misba
    hum ragistan may hain aur ghar may bahar aye hai!

  280. #280 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 20, 2012 - 7:52 AM

    Munir

    Ref. your comment #262, which I did not read at that time because you had posted quite a few comments in one go. After reading that comment now, which is in response to my comment no. 219 and according to you it is a real shocker for you and, asusual in your own indirect way and by adding icons, you have not only called me a bias person but, also a racist. Wow, that is so nice and so kind of you to say that this is not the Javed Khan I know. And for me, this is the real Munir I know. Unlike you I am not surprised to this personal attack on me. Because you have done it before and not just with me but, with others too. But, I am not crying, I am thanking you for that comment.

    First, I would like to clarify that racism has nothing to do with patriotism and that coward general has brought disgrace to the nation and he deserves those comments. I don’t even care if that ‘guy’ is dead or, alive. In my eyes he would have been a hero if he had died fighting. If he is alive, then he is still a living disgrace to the nation. You may keep your generosity and your philosophy to yourself on forgiving and forgetting. Your question that how many years are enough for us to get over anybody’s mistake? My dear Munir, when you talk about history whether it is 40 years or 400 years it doesn’t matter. Even today people talk about 2000 and 4000 years old history.

    Why do people criticize at Halaku Khan, Taimur Lang, Hitler and Saddam Hussain even today? They are dead long time ago, so according to your philosophy one should forget them and forgive them because it is an old matter?

    Gen. Niazi had a nick name of “Tiger Niazi” and it wasn’t a title given to him on any kind of bravery act. A couple days before he surrendered, when the media asked him this question: “The situation is not under your control, are you going to surrender?” He thumped his chest and he said, “Over My Dead Body.” And, 2 days after that he surrendered. It was not something personal, it was a national issue, it was not just a matter of his personal pride and vanity but, it was also about the army of 90,000 soldiers he was leading. It was about a nation’s pride and vanity. He disregarded the orders because, he was a coward and a disgrace to the nation. And, that is how he will be remembered in history.

    You are free to go ahead and forgive him because you are a very pious and a generous man. For me, he was a traitor, he did not fulfill his duties, he disregarded the orders. If he was so kind or humble person, he should not have joined the army. Tikka Khan and Niazi were butchering the civilians and a few (Mukhti Bahini) who were partially armed with guns and grenades and surrendered when they had to fight a war against the Indian army.

    I am totally against war, but when you fight a war, you don’t distribute sweets to the enemy, you fight. Every nation has fought and every religious group has fought wars, even in Islam armies were lead by the well known generals like Khalid Bin Waleed — who fought 99 wars and won all of them — and the Khulfa-e-Rashideen fought wars, even Prophet Muhammad also lead the armies and fought wars. But, no one surrendered, they fought till the end.

    An army of 90,000 soldiers, not just infantry but, armored cars, tanks also had two squadrons of air-force under his command and yet he surrendered? IF he was a brave general he should have died fighting. Had he fortified he would have survived and earned respect and that would have gone down in the history books. But, he dissuaded the army he discouraged his army, he did not provide enough mental, emotional or moral strength to fight. He was a bloody joker. He played with the emotions of the people.

    Knowing you, you might argue by saying that by surrendering he saved the lives of 90,000 people or even more? Yes, but you know what happened to those people who were taken in as POW’s? They lost their mental abilities when they were released most of them were declared pagal. My neighbour’s son was a lieutenant in the army and 2 years later when he came back after he was released, he lost his mental capabilities and used to live in isolation and was declared as a pagal. A few years later he committed suicide by putting a bullet in his own skull and a note saying, I wish it was a bullet from the enemy’s gun but, unfortunately it is from my own gun. Like him there were many. Because, in the POW camps they were tortured and beaten up. They wanted to escape and were placed in solitary confinement and that is how it works in POW camps.

    My own uncle who was heading a bank in Dhakka, somehow he was also taken in as a POW and, when he was released, he used to describe the horrific 2 yeas of his life that he spent in those camps. People say and may even defend that Geneva Convention rules were applied and nothing happened in those camps, that is all BS. We came to know about Abu Gharib jail in Iraq only when the info was leaked. Whereas, in 1971-72 the media was not so strong and no one was allowed to go anywhere near the camps and those who died in the camps were never reported.

    So, why do you have to take sides of people who have damaged the country and the reputation of the country be it in army, politics or sports? Whomsoever I write something against and that is based on my personal thinking, you suddenly want to be in the opposition and defend them like a Khudaiye Faojdar or, some kinda Robin without a hood. Because you think they are underdogs and they need sympathies and support.How about Ijaz Butt? You love to ridicule him with MCBC and %#%&*Y(*()) etc., and enjoyed the criticism and added a few more adjectives in describing his Big Butt and added superlatives and your usual icons and that you have done it in zest and you were not biased or anything to do with racism? And then you have the gumption to call me a racist?

    Munir, if you had remembered what you have said, then you wouldn’t have said what you have said. The problem is you conveniently forget what you want to forget and remember only what you want to remember or, just disappear from the scene till the dust is settled and i.e., because you are a very nice man you don’t want to confront but, its strange that you give us lectures on ethics and morals and forget about what you had spoken. Is it based on the expression, golden words are spoken only once? Read my comments on the Religion Page which I have posted a few days ago about the Universe being an Open Book and you will know that everything we say or speak is recorded in that Open Book.

    I am glad you liked the lolly pop. 😀

  281. #281 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 20, 2012 - 8:05 AM

    NewGuy

    Your suggestion has been approved but, your prayers have not been answered.

    Latest news is, PONTING DROPPED from ODI squad, Tendulkar is still there!

    This is the difference between the cultures where game is more important than the player.

  282. #282 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 20, 2012 - 8:16 AM

    NewGuy

    This is another faux pas! http://www.espncricinfo.com/awards2011/content/current/story/554358.html

    As if the ICC was not enough in committing ch2pay here is this ESPN cricinfo going a step ahead of them and doing bigger bloopers.

    Tendulkar is like the Great Barrier Reef which is an endangered species, it is dying and the ESPN is trying to resuscitate the dead man. Like pee nay walaon ko peenay ka bahana chahiyeh, Tendulkar fans needs a reason to worship him. Now, it is that 146 he made in Capetown last year he is being worshiped for that.

    Btw, Raju check out the above link and see who is in that committee and, you would love to see his name there, so tell me when you spot him.

  283. #283 by Mohammed Munir on February 20, 2012 - 8:54 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Why are my feelings getting stronger by the day that Khansahab is virtually around us somewhere ❓ 😉 😀 😛

    Is it only my ‘fishful thinking’ or is that Khansahab is actually visiting LS regularly and “reading” our comments ❓ 😆

    If Khansahab is so busy not to contribute with his detailed comments, he can at least pass some remarks through his Blackberry or iphone. 😉

    Anyways, I am not sending any SOS to him yet, so please don’t disturb him by sending emails, but yes I do miss him on LS.

    Whereas, I am sure you are definitely not missing Khansahab even one bit … right ❓ 😉 😀

    On second thoughts, over here on LS, Khansahab has been ‘sporting’ … Ooops, I mean supporting you more then me and he nearly always used to ‘I am agree’ with you. 😉

  284. #284 by Mohammed Munir on February 20, 2012 - 9:58 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Wow wow wow …. I am sorry I think I did put my hand in a hornet’s nest ❓ 😉

    I have read your comment no. 282, on that general and your detailed descriptions on how he fought that war and why he surrendered.

    Even if I fully agree with you on all issues, word-to-word, my simple question will be how is all this related to Misbah ❓

    Is this all Misbah’s fault that one general surrendered over 40 years ago who unfortunately carries the same sir-name, Niazi, as that general ❓

    Can we hold Misbah or entire Niazi clan responsible for the mistakes of one bad general ❓

    I am sure you would not like to answer these questions.

    Secondly, I have heard enough of this Ijaz Butt business and my abusing him in the past, well frankly speaking, I can guess where is this idea coming from. You tell me, if someone abuses certain one person does that he should go on and start abusing every other person in the same way ❓

    Do you treat all players in the same how you treat Ijaz Butt ❓

    Please go to LS archives and see for yourself that whether I abused Ijaz Butt more or you. Did I put a red-cross on his face and put his disfigured picture on the blog ❓

    Even if I used some harsh language against Ijaz Butt, why should I use the same words against Misbah today ❓

    You tell me, what is common between Ijaz Butt and Misbah ❓

    Anyways, I think the basic problem here is that I see Misbah and Ijaz Butt as two separate persons while you see and treat them as one for all practical purposes, which is very wrong.

  285. #285 by Raju on February 20, 2012 - 11:16 AM

    Once a person abuses someone or enjoys someone else being abused, he loses his moral authority to question abuse of anybody.

    Secondly, its all matter of intent. Its ok to rape one man verbally but its bad to abuse someone’s favorite.how hypocritical.

    The fact that butt and his launda are two faces of the same coin,an extension of lobbyism driven by anti afridi rhetoric. And its known to every common man,its not restricted to this blog. So one should deal with facts rather than give impression of collusion. Denial only leads to humiliation just like denial led to 3-0

    doesnt the blog now sound rational when it questioned mishap’s credenthals. Why nobody now gives credit to this farsightedness and all we see is whinning veiled in hollow cloak of ethics.

  286. #286 by Raju on February 20, 2012 - 12:42 PM

    Phuta baaja
    llol

    kya baat hae, mishap na hogaya wali hogaya

    mush ko nanga karo,zardari ko ganda karo,butt ko zaleel karo magr misbaaah

    qowat e baah ka zariya hae kya Jk?

    Ye jumla shayd tum he samjho,baqi ke lye bohot mashkul hae 🙂

  287. #287 by Mohammed Munir on February 20, 2012 - 1:07 PM

    Javed Khan …

    This is your blog and being an Administrator you are ‘the Boss’ around here, so you get some free backing and cheering from your ‘loyal friend’ or “obedient buddy”, who will go out of his way to ‘sport’ you, even when he is completely IGNORED and his ‘maska polish’ is uncalled for. 😆

    This is merely because some sorry ‘attention-seeker’ just won’t get a hint when disregarded politely and they will keep bothering you without any reason. While on the other hand, you being an Administrator of the blog are not even trying to stop him or atleast moderate his comments because who would not like a ‘free-chamcha’ millaaing your haan-mein-haan on every topic. 😉

    It is like whenever I address any comment to you, Uss Ko Mirchi free Mein Hee Lagti Hai, and he feels obliged to intervene no matter what.

    I can understand the frustration and anguish that one is suffering when two out of three active bloggers on LS don’t want to communicate with someone anymore and that feeling of being IGNORED sets in.

    But lately this is getting really pathetic with some below-the-belt and street-type of comments from him and it is beyond doubt a major put-off for me which is seriously spoiling my mood. 😦

    PS: I am sorry to again involve you in this, but as a blogger I have only two choices, one to stoop so low to his levels and reply him in his own language, which I can’t do, and second complain to the blog owners/ administrators to moderate his comments and try to control him. Rest is your call.

  288. #288 by NewGuy on February 20, 2012 - 1:34 PM

    Javed Khan,

    Yeah, the big news coming out is that Ponting has been dropped from ODI squad.

    The difference in culture is even more visible in the way they made no qualms about it, not only they dropped him, they also came out and said so clearly that his form is very poor and that he hasn’t performed, so must make way for future. Ponting knew this was coming too. Even a great player that he has been, he was also told that he must step aside. This is why Australia will keep winning, they put team ahead of individuals.

    Tendulkar if he has any shame should take clue from this and step aside. But he won’t, that is for sure.

    I too read the award for Tendulkar, and I was like what the .. ? He hasn’t done anything note worth for an entire year and what is the award for. That 146 was a great innings no doubt, for the quality with which Steyn was steaming in and bowling a testing spell of 10 overs on the trot, Tendulkar survived and made a high quality 100. But, that probably is his last best hundred.

    It was a long time ago. They can call it 2011, but that surely look long way back. There are other great performance. Clarke made a classy 150 against SA last year, let alone his triple against India. There are others who made very good hundreds, many English batsmen made quality hundreds. What about Dravid, who opened innings against quality English attack and made a hundred then carried his bat. It is obvious who they are trying to resurrect like a mummy from the grave.

  289. #289 by Raju on February 20, 2012 - 5:22 PM

    Bhai jee mein ne aapko kya bola jo itna wawela kar rahe ho?

    Aap ko asal takleef mishap ki hae aur aapko tension hoti hae

    aapka hafiza kamzor hae,mein aapko yaad dilao aapne UMRA KARKE AANE KE BAD EK AUR BLOGGER KI MERE MUTALIQ TABSREY MEIN HAN MEIN HAN MILAI THI. Mein ne eeegnore.. Kya magr misbah s/o butt ko mein nahi bakshunga.

    Mujhe kya zarorat hae aise cumments mein uljhane ki jo sirf iconss se barha hota hae.

    Btw, comment kisi ki meeras nahi,koi bhi reply karsakta hae.ye blogging ka universal rule hae magr aap ko misbah ka itna dard hae ke aap chahtey ho usey koi bura na kahey.

    Naa ji, mein to bolunga kisi ko takleef hae to ho meri bala sey.

    Ghaur sey padhro to samjh aega mera HADF AAP NAHI HO SO

    EEGNORE, EEEGNOR…
    😆

  290. #290 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 20, 2012 - 5:50 PM

    Munir — You have responded to my comment and you said: “As per you, Misbah is a mediocre player while Afridi is the world-class bowler and have scored the highest runs in two out of three ODIs so far, this is why we have to have more reliance on our key performers. But lately, the bowling all-rounder have become more of a batting all-rounder, isn’t it ?”

    Munir, it is your own perception that you are understanding it, and that way and you are taunting at me is very trivial and that too only for the sake of argument. But, the truth is everyone knows what I am not talking about? It is not just these 2 out of 3 matches in which Afridi top scored from PK side but in general. And these figures were quoted only to give you an example from the “present” because, you want to forget the past.

    As regards his comparison with Misbah, actually there is no comparison. Afridi is the third player in the world after Kallis and Jayasuriya to have scored nearly 7000 runs and has taken nearly 350 wickets (his no. of wickets are more than both of them). And he has hit 297 SIXES, whereas Jayasuriya who played 120 odd more ODI’s than Afridi has hit 275 Sixes and he has retired. His SR in ODI is way above than anyone. And, he is the ONLY player from Pakistan to achieve this feat. His test record is better than Misbah, check out the number of hundreds he scored and Misbah scored. And his T20 record is one of the best in the world and among the Pakistani players he has received the player of the match award more than anyone else. So, there is no comparison between the two of them, and the figures speak of themselves.

    Regarding the second part of your question i.e., since when this bowling all-rounder has become batting all-rounder? This is all in your head that you create such differences and try to justify them. Whether it is a bowling or, a batting all-rounder, an all-rounder is one who have the capability to excel in both or every department of the game. The segregation of this category is more recent, in the past there was no such thing as bowling or batting all-rounder, an all-rounder was just an all-rounder and if he fails in one department he compensates it in the other department. I dunno from which ‘angel’ you see this and think that you are right, but whatever it is — ignorance is bliss. Because, Misbah if he fails in batting, then in the rest of that match he is a liability with his fielding. What more can I say?

  291. #291 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 20, 2012 - 6:24 PM

    Munir — in a hornet’s nest there are a lot of hornets but, here I am alone so are you calling me a hornet now? First you said, I am not only biased but, I am a racist and you’ve said that in a very subtle way — jisay shaal may lapait ker……… kehtay hain. And, you think I am naive not to get it? On top of that taunt at me by calling me, ‘THE BOSS’ and ‘The Administrator’ and in the past you have taunted at me that, Javed Khan you are never wrong, especially on this blog you can never be wrong because, you are the the boss and the owner of this blog etc., etc. Where as the truth is we are very liberal here.

    Perhaps you do not have enough experience of blogging other than PakSpin and you are here and you have seen that we are very open and do not censor or edit the comments of anyone except if it becomes a real nuisance and a rogue or if there is any profanity or flooding copy paste comments from other blogs. The very basis of creating this blog was to have a liberal and open discussion and not only drifting from the topic but, changing the subject from cricket to politics and entertainment etc., is allowed. And, yet you are not happy and complaining because people are not in agreement with you?

    In the year 2004 when late Bob Woolmer was the coach, he created his own website and comments were posted in blog style but, after moderation and censorship. I had also posted a few comments on his blog airing my views against his cronyism especially the way he was sponsoring Younus Khan in ODI’s. I was telling him then, that YK is a good test player but, in ODI’s he is not that great. He kept deleting my comments, they never appeared on his website.

    One day Late Omer Kureshi (former commentator, critic and sports writer) wrote an article in DAWN and he used the exact words, “Cronyism” which means yari dosti, and he criticized Bob for sponsoring Younus Khan. I copied those excerpts from his article and posted it on Bob’s website and wrote, see you have been deleting my comments because they were not pleasing you whereas, Mr. Umer Kureshi has criticized you openly in DAWN.

    And, I don’t know how but, due to browser error the same comment of mine was posted twice (it happened here many times and we simply deleted the duplicate comment without any fuss) and you know how he replied?

    He wrote: “Hey JakASS I would be happy to speak directly to Mr Kureshi than have him write to me I am free to discuss Pakistan cricket with any journalist. And, you have the BALLS to post your comment twice on my website!”

    And, in that same email he was giving me a lecture on morals, ethics and his dedication and love for Pakistan team. We exchanged a few emails and I still have them. I gave him a perfect retort for being so rude and then posing himself as a gentleman. I told him please don’t say you love Pakistan team, you are a cricket mercenary you were born in England and played for England and for money you were the coach for SA and then you taught them how to choke and they kicked you out after the contract was over and you are here in Pakistan for money. Tomorrow, if India offers you more money you will go there. Eventually he was so pissed off that on his website he wrote, “What a sick puppy you are?”

    You might say Bob died 5 years ago and one should not talk about him but, forgive and forget. Yeah, you can do that. As regards forgiveness, I am no body to forgive anyone, it is only Allah Who forgives people. If I had no brains I would have forgotten like you always say that I should forget like you do.

    Anyways, the point is, people have ZERO tolerance when they are running a blog, a website or a chat site. They moderate comments, they delete comments and they kick you out from chat sites and they ban you and your IP address. As regards your request to me for moderating comments, what I can see and all I can see is, taali ek haath say nahee bujtee. And, one should not be so case sensitive.

  292. #292 by sana on February 20, 2012 - 10:02 PM

    javedbhai, are you on twitter? you should be.

  293. #293 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 20, 2012 - 11:07 PM

    sana

    I am such a jaahil that I don’t know how to use twitter. You should help me by giving me some tips. And, I dunno if it is a good idea, because I blab so much. 😀

  294. #294 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 20, 2012 - 11:57 PM

    Some of our bloggers believe that we are blindly supporting Afridi and intentionally criticizing Misbah or, the PCB in a very orchestrated manner. The fact is, we are not the only ones who are speaking the truth. There are other blogs too who have highlighted the facts much more in detail than us and just for the sake providing our bloggers the info, below I am copy pasting a few excerpts from another blog and I know they read our blog so, I would like to applaud them for calling a spade, a spade and for writing the facts without any fear or hesitation. Good job SK.

    “Speaking of a cricket board supporting their captain, the PCB announced the squad without naming a captain on multiple occasions, including the squad for the World Cup. This all but eliminated Afridi’s input in selection matters. It also created for him the embarrassing situation of being asked about his vision for Pakistan’s World Cup team at a time when he was unsure not only about getting the team combination that would execute his gameplan, but also about whether he would even be captain come the next series. The point I’m trying to make – in an admittedly long-winded fashion – is that a few extra extras have not been the only harm to come from corruption, controversy and instability: an undermined captain with tepid faith in his board was an underrated setback.

    Butt is yet to reveal why Afridi was sacked. Reports say it was his comments to the media about his issues with the coach that got him in trouble, but Butt himself made the following comment after saying that his reasons for sacking Afridi as captain were solid.

    “We know Afridi won two series and that is why we didn’t act then [during the tour]. We couldn’t do anything more during that tour. Right now anything more I say will cause more tensions.”

    This seems to suggest that Afridi was sacked for something that happened on tour, most likely the much-reported selection spat him and Waqar. The decision was announced after a report on the tour –– and said selection spat –– was submitted to the board by the manager Intikhab Alam, and before Waqar was summoned and met with the chairman to discuss the same. Afridi’s take on the matter was never requested, yet the chairman announced that he had “geniune reasons to sack Afridi.” It is ridiculous that such a big decision was taken without letting the concerned party know what the allegations were, let alone giving them the chance to defend themselves against them.”

    Ijaz Butt has not done this with Afridi alone but, he sacked Yousuf and Younus also without giving any reason and Younus tried to litigate the matter but, the mafia came in the middle to sort out the differences amicably rather one sided to diffuse the tense situation that would have dragged Butt into the courts. The same thing happened in Afridi’s case. But, in case of Misbah The Godfather (Butt) protected his A$$ and they are just like a hand in glove.

  295. #295 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 21, 2012 - 7:07 AM

    A very challenging total (290) for India to chase and win. Sri Lankan middle order played well, in fact they are better than most countries current lot of middle order batsmen with LDL Chandimal, HDL Thirmanne, ADL Mathews (a very good and consistent all-rounder) and NTSC Parera plus Pal Secam Farveez. I watched this session but, I am not going to sit all night and watch Tendulkar’s 100. Without Dhoni in the team the team would be without a finisher and a paver at Gabba no one has chased a total like this to win. So, good luck India and good luck Tendulkar.

  296. #296 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 21, 2012 - 9:10 AM

    Munir

    To refresh your memory may I post those comments in which you have abused not only Ijaz Butt with MCBC, but you have cursed Misbah as well. Also, your showering praise and accolades on Afridi. Do you want me to embarrass you or save you from embarrassment?

    Maar diya jaye, ya chor diya jaye
    Bol tere sath kya salook kiya jaye

    I am not surprised at your paradigm shift because, throughout the time you have been blogging here, you have always opposed other’s views, I certainly don’t mind them as long as there is consistency in it, but you change and negate your own comments and that is because you forget what you have said or written earlier. Is it Alzheimer’s or, Oldtimerz? 😀

  297. #297 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 21, 2012 - 9:14 AM

    Vo Saikda jo hum say rooth gaya
    Ab uska haal sunaiyain kya?
    Sehwag bhee aya aur unda day gaya
    Gambhir bhee ludak gaya
    Lagta ye match bhee India haar gaya

  298. #298 by Raju on February 21, 2012 - 10:01 AM

    If a heavyweight like ponting can retire from odi,why cant tendulkar or a khatam like mishap retire?

    This is stubborness and injustice to emerging talent.

  299. #299 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 21, 2012 - 5:26 PM

    This looks like another century coming up from KP who has regained his form, right now he is on 80 and geeli-chabi is on 30. Once again Pakistani batsmen proved that they are a 220-230 team. With this kinda pathetic batting they cannot win a single match against a good team on batting strength alone. Once in a while there will be a tukka from a batsman or, a bowler can get a win but, there is no consistency and no excellence but — mediocrity. This is going to be a 4-0 for England.

    Ps

    Once again NO Hammad Azam in the team but, Meesna Malak has been given a second chance and he failed again scored 23 and no boundary in it. Look at the sinister game here, this is the 35th over and two set batsmen are playing well and MISHAP IS NOT GIVING THE BOWLING TO MEESNA MALAK. Trying to protect his a$$

  300. #300 by raju on February 21, 2012 - 6:37 PM

    pisssssssssssssssssssssshapppppedddddddddddddddddddddddddddd!

    greenwashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

    no hammad azam but sania malak

    lanaaat hae

  301. #301 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 21, 2012 - 6:47 PM

    A WHITEWASH as predicted is complete now.

    Malik the champion (((((((All-Rounder))))))) was protected by Misbah. He got Malik in the team by saying he is another spin option, so why did he not give him to bowl and show his spin talents? He protected him because Kevin Pietersen was smashing sixes and fours.

    Should someone not tell this wise man that you don’t need another spin option in the team when you have Saeed Ajmal, Abdur Rehman, Abdul Hafeez and Shahid Afridi in the team. You need to strengthen the batting side and Malik in his 10 innings has not averaged more than 10 runs this 23 was probably the highest he scored in the recent past i.e., in 2011-2012 and yet you give him a chance after chance? If Hammad Azam is no good then why is he in the squad?

    This cronyism between the captain and his blue-eyed boy is not like you scratch my back I scratch yours, it is you protect my ass I protect yours. And, how can Malik repay the debt back? Well, Misbah is untouchable not only because of THE BUTT but, bakaoz Sania Bhabi is also there to send a sweet parchee to the senators and ministers to protect Misass’s happs.

  302. #302 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 22, 2012 - 12:03 AM

    “The cat took your tongue?” Is an expression. Applies to whom?

  303. #303 by NewGuy on February 22, 2012 - 12:04 AM

    Pakistan underwent a whitewash soon after imposing a whitewash on England. It must be in fashion these days in cricket. Abject surrender that is. India had two Test series white washes, and inflicted an ODI whitewash in between. SL did not get whitewashed but lost pretty badly in SA and in UAE. England after giving whitewash to India got white washed in ODI 5-0 to India and in Tests 3-0 to Pakistan, then white washed Pakistan 4-0.

    Come to think of it England are the white wash masters, giving or taking, they used to take a lot of white washes in the past. To West Indies specifically, to whom they were a bunny in 70’s and 80’s, then to Australia in 90’s and 2000’s. Now they are giving back some too.

    Overall cricket quality of teams are dropping, once they win one or two series or a major tournament they simply do not have energy to keep going on.

    Pakistan need to change the strategy in ODI. Batting simply is not good enough. There are no easy solutions, selectors have to take long term view and weed out players who do not belong in this format. Misbah is defensive in ODI, will not work. Tests he can continue as captain and player, since the strategy is working at least in familiar conditions. They are a long way from winning abroad, but then so is every other team including the so called #1 Team in the world.

    In case of India, in fighting is now evident to everyone. They are not only airing the dirty laundry in public but they are also throwing the kitchen sink out. The two loud mouths in team, the Delhi belly duo of Shewag and Gangu are up against ICE cool kaptaan. ICE cool is calling Shewag a liability in field. While GG says ICE cool should learn to finish earlier. Insecurity of all three are showing up? I think to. All three have been underperforming to various degrees and big talk is all because they are scared, so trying to back stab each other and stay in team.

    Team cannot win in this situation. Ganguly says take away captaincy from Dhoni in two formats. I think he is hinting Tests and T20. I agree. There is too much cricket, and Dhoni cannot / should not captain every format. Throw out the Shewag from ODI format, he is not performing, his record breaking double is no compensation for chronic poor performance match after match. He needs to be dropped. Given youngsters chance. Dhoni is the best bet for India in ODI as match finisher and captain. You cannot have parallel powers in team who do not perform. Sehwag has become negative player, so in Tendulkar. Both needs to go.

  304. #304 by Mohammed Munir on February 22, 2012 - 3:55 AM

    Javed … I was at the game yesterday, in case you are missing me too much. 😉

    BTW, Imran Khan was also there, followed by his charity dinner at The Palm Atlantis. He was collecting funds for his new Cancer Hospital @ Peshawer.

  305. #305 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 22, 2012 - 4:00 AM

    NewGuy

    I have read that interview of Sehwag where he said he is not aware of what Dhoni told the media about him, gambi and Tendulkar. But, you can see there is an underling current that is very obvious and they are trying to cover it up. Then again the Delhi duo goes out and say something like, gambi said openly that Dhoni is not a finisher. I do agree with you that oldies should not be in the T20 format.

    Irfan Pathan was included recently and he did not play badly at all, in fact his contribution as an all-rounder was OK. He took a few wickets, he made some runs at express pace a couple of times he got run out, once he sacrificed his wicket for Dhoni but all in all it was a good comeback after such a long time and that too because of the captain. His favourite Jaddu did nothing yet he gets a lot of media attention and Dhoni’s pyaar bhari nazrain!

    I am surprised that you call Sehwag a negative player but you don’t agree with us when it comes to Misbah? Btw, Kapil Dev has demanded Tendulkar’s retirement with immediate effect. In fact he too is ruing about his performance by saying he should have retired gracefully after the WC. True, he should have got more respect whereas, now whenever he will retire, no matter he score that 100th 100 or even more people will remember his stubbornness and his nervousness in scoring and batting freely. He looks like a spent force now especially when you see his recent picture in which his back is being shown — going towards the pavilion after getting out cheaply.

  306. #306 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 22, 2012 - 4:19 AM

    Munir — I don’t miss anyone and I have never missed anyone in my life other than my own near and dear. And, you are neither near or a dear to me and, you are neither here not there, so what difference does it make to me with your presence or your absence from the scene? I know you have a tendency to disappear from the scene when you are cornered. For e.g., almost a year ago when you were debating with khansahab and he said, Munir sb. you have said something else a few months ago and you are saying something totally opposite, and you replied “NEVER”.

    He then pulled out 2 ~ 3 of your comments from the archives and copy pasted them on the blog. You know what happened? As usual you disappeared from the blog presumably after reading them. After KS posting those comments of yours on the blog 340 more comments were posted on that thread by different people and you were not there. A new thread started and after another 100 odd comments, you appeared on the blog with your winkies and pinkies (the tongue in cheek icon) and were asking, what is new guys? Koi naiyee baat kero yaar. Imran has no interest in cricket he is going to places for money and to build up his image and his PR.

  307. #307 by Mohammed Munir on February 22, 2012 - 4:46 AM

    You don’t sound in good mood today, so let me comeback after another 340 + 100 comments on a new thread. 😆 😉 😀

  308. #308 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 22, 2012 - 4:53 AM

    Munir

    I am always in a good mood, by planting smiley icons doesn’t mean I am happy or sad, I don’t need those emoticons actually I am enjoying pistachio ice cream on the side while I am blogging. Do you want me to post a few of your old comments to make you more happy or, you have already gone with the wind? I know you are there, so don’t remain quiet like a “ullarh doushiza where khamoshi means YES.”

  309. #309 by Mohammed Munir on February 22, 2012 - 5:07 AM

    Seems like you are working overtime digging some ‘oldtimers’ comments from your data-base. 😉

    BTW, if you really are upset with my 🙂 😉 😀 😛 you can always cancell them from the blog or request me and I will stop using them.

    Sardi Mein Ziyada ice-creame Mat Khao, Warna Kulfi Ban Jaaegi. 😉

  310. #310 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 22, 2012 - 5:15 AM

    haha shayed tumhe maloom nahee North may log ice cream ziyada khatay hian compared to South. Btw, din may plus 4C aur raat ko minus 7C is like spring time here so don’t worry about me, people from Dubai when they come here in June, July when temp is +23C they wear wind cheaters and sweaters.

    If I was upset I would have deleted the emoticons but, l told you before we don’t delete comments until whatever, whatever, whatever.

    There is no overtime when you are your own Boss I just need a click of the mouse to get all your comments on my screen. And to post them here is a matter of a few seconds but, I was asking your permission in my previous comment, should I or should I not? Samaj aye? 😀 Adding this to make you feel at home.

  311. #311 by Mohammed Munir on February 22, 2012 - 12:42 PM

    Javed Khan …

    Your comment no. 296 …

    As expected, you have preferred to ‘miss’ few of my questions in comment no 286, specially regarding why Misbah was compared with general Niazi. Similarly, why is Misbah assumed as successor of Ijaz Butt. So it shows we both reply to what we want and skip few comments … right ❓ 😉

    Thanks for copy/ pasting the above excerpt from a different blog to justify your views on supporting Afridi. Even though the article seems a bit old from its discussion, but your point is well taken. You can also post few more comments from other blogs to validate your criticism of Misbah.

    In the same fashion, it would have been more balanced had you also taken a few passages from the more recent columns of Dr. Kamran Abbasi, Dr. Saad, and many more well-reputed and respectful neutral columnists who were all continuously praising and appreciating Misbah at the end of recently concluded Tests series with England. Alternatively, few of the bloggers here on LS started targeting and abusing these well-known writers only because they praised Misbah, which was not a good idea at all.

    I would not like to go again into who LS is ‘blindly supporting’ and who they are criticizing and why, this is a never-ending debate. But I would have really appreciated a few positive comments supporting Misbah or appreciating him at least when the entire world was applauding him (when Pakistan unexpectedly won the Test series 3– 0). But from what it seems as if LS exactly knew (the dark future) that Pakistan will loose the ODI series badly and therefore they never recognized Misbah’s efforts in Tests.

    LS have not uttered a single word of praise for Misbah after they whitewashed world’s number one team against everyone’s so-called predictions and anticipations. However, after loosing ODIs Misbah is singly and personally targeted as if it was totally his fault alone. This is so unfair and unbalanced.

    Today Dravid, Ponting, Sachin and many other senior players who are nearing end of their careers and are not performing how they used to, so a lot of peoples are targeting them, but would it had made any sense not to praise or appreciate them like 6/ 7 years back in time based on the fact that one day in future they will fail ❓ (I am sorry to mention Misbah in the same way like these greats but the idea is to only give an example).

    This is how LS is treating Misbah who was heavily criticized, even when everyone else was praising him on almost all other blogs, only in the hope that he will fail in future. If this is really so, then take it from me that one fine day every player will fail and may be after 5/ 6 years, even Afridi becomes a failure and he may have to retire and therefore why not start disapproving him starting from today just like we did to Misbah ❓

    Anyways, Malik when he was captain was highly criticized here on LS, same was the case with Salman Butt (before his fixing scandal) and to some extent even Younis Khan was also criticized unnecessarily when he was made captain. While from the current team, Hafeez, Umer Gul, Akmals, etc. are all considered ‘not-captaincy-materials’. Therefore, it is pretty much obvious that LS strongly supports and believes that Shahid Afridi is the one and only suitable choice for captaincy of Pakistan and no one else will be approved as captain, come what may.

    This, unfortunately, seems to be the unstated mantra on LS.

    PS: I agree I am not visiting many other blogs so my knowledge and understanding of international blogging rules will be below mark, but I am yet to see any other blog where they regularly deface and disfigure the pictures and depict photos of vegetables and cartoons to compare international players and board chairman.

  312. #312 by Mohammed Munir on February 22, 2012 - 12:46 PM

    Javed Khan …

    Your comment no. 298 …

    You are most welcome to post my old comments (which you are so eager to do), but please do add the dates as well, so I too can also go back and verify them because at times some older comments keep changing on the blogs and no blogger can remembers what he has written few months/ years back, excepts the administrators who keep visiting older comments often. 😉

    BTW, a blog is not the ‘universal open book of truth’, which can record everything perfectly because we all know that sometimes older comments can be ‘changed/ replaced’ be it the comments of administrators or others bloggers. I am not saying that someone is doing it, but I am trying to prove that the possibility is very much there, so if someone wants to do it, then it is as easy as a few clicks which surely deteriorates their creditability. 😉

    Coming back to the comment, please post my comments specially where I had cursed Misbah and praised Afridi, because this will confirm my point that I am not a loyal life-long committed supporter of any one person and I will appreciate whosoever plays good on the day and similarly I will never target anyone person in particular and Misbah is not my Chachay-Ka-Beta. That comment will also negate your own misconceptions that I always loved Misbah and have something against Afridi.

    No need to show any mercy for me, please go ahead with your full force, I am not stopping you in any way, but let’s keep it one-on-one excluding your supporters. 😉

    Oh and I don’t agree with your ‘Taali’ (clap) comment because a clap may require two hands but noise can always be created with even just one hand. 😛

    PS: I know arguing and winning against an administrator on his own blog (home-ground) is not possible for other bloggers, because technically administrators are having more sophisticated resources and they are enjoying much more powerful tools which the bloggers don’t have at their disposal. This is why generally administrators are not a party on their own blogs, because bloggers don’t stand a chance against them and so most of them start taking sides with them. Secondly, I wish I could also have access to all your and other bloggers’ comments to show you and remind you what all you have been saying against whom all. 😉

  313. #313 by NewGuy on February 22, 2012 - 1:30 PM

    JK,

    Sehwag’s negativity I referred to is his ego and power clash with captain, which cannot be accepted, not matter how big a player he is. Dhoni is captain and he should be given respect and backing by all players because you are playing for the country and he should keep his ego in the closet. Here Sehwag and his buddy Gambhir is having a power struggle with Dhoni which is negative energy to the team. This is why both should be kicked out of the team. You fall in line or get out. This is not to say they should never have difference in opinion, that must be aired in private and when they take field all should back the captain and team, and they should not talk in public. Here they are not backing him in the field, showing indifference when batting and fielding and talking in public. I think too much has gone to Sehwag’s head and he needs a kick in the rear now.

    Kapil said again Tendulkar should retire, and Ganguly said he should retire from ODI. But Kapil forgot how he dragged on. This is a tricky thing. Every great waits too long. Only a couple of greats retired before people asked why not?

    Gavaskar retired when every one felt he could have played more and his absence was felt at the top for many years by India. Brian Lara retired when people did not expect and he could have carried on. Richard Hadlee could have gone on and took another 100 wickets if he wanted and completed 500 wickets at that no one would have broken for many years, instead he left at his peak and allowed reaching distance to Kapil to crawl and break it

    Look at Ricky Ponting though, he prefers selectors to make that call. He had the option given by chairman of selectors to go on his own, but he chose to have that call made by them instead. In Tests too Ponting will wait to be axed and won’t go on his own.

    That won’t make Ponting any less player when he think of it many years back.

    Viv Richard is the greatest player that I have seen play cricket. But he dragged on in the end and averaged in the 30’s in his last one year. His reflexes gave way and he was finding it tough. He too dragged on.

    Tendulkar, we will wait and see what happens to him, that is all everyone can do at this time, because he is not talking and no one knows what is on his mind.

  314. #314 by Raju on February 22, 2012 - 1:46 PM

    Ill be damned. One could easily go onto the archives and retrieve any comment from any previous blog. I once found comment of a blogger about misbah’s antics after the wc semi.

    This blog is hardly a nasty one. Veggies are nothing and clearly there is no conshstency when it comes to favorites. Why no one protested when butt was molested, why now all the preachy preachy.

    BUTT FARTED, MISHAP OCCURED.
    There is a nexus

    btw why mishap chamchas are not criticising him ovr the hara wash.
    Kya wo nauzubillah wali hae?

  315. #315 by Raju on February 22, 2012 - 1:54 PM

    Secondly i ve been bloging here for few months and i never observed the 2 admins(jk , ks) tampering wth cumments. In ks’s case we delved into archives and i found no tampering.

    Such a nntion is nothing but a case of buttpiss.

  316. #316 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 22, 2012 - 3:34 PM

    Munir — Ref. your comment #313 Wah Munir kya baat hai, ek saans may yeh kehtay ho: “This is how LS is treating Misbah who was heavily criticized, even when everyone else was praising him on almost all other blogs,…” Aur doosri saans may ” PS: I agree I am not visiting many other blogs so my knowledge and understanding of international blogging rules will be below mark…”

    In the same comment after writing hardly 10 lines you forgot what you wrote above and negated your own statement. So, how would you remember something you have said yesterday or a month or, a year ago? Anyways, I will post some of those comments with no. and dates since you have asked for it and I am NOT surprised at your suspicion that shows how much trust you have in blog “administrators. And, you can do some reconciliation and compare them with your archives that you have on your Microsoft Word.

    Before telling me Javed you have not replied to a couple of your questions that I have asked you, You should have thought about answering my question about your predictability of Pakistan winning that test match when the target was only 144? I gave you “Umray Ka Wasta” and asked you to speak the truth and nothing but truth. I think I must have asked you at least 3-4 times also wrote, Munir you are dodging my question. The reason I did not answer you that question on Niazi is not that I cannot answer but, you had posted so many comments at the same time and I was replying to them. But, don’t worry as long as you hold your ground, I will answer your question.

    As regards constant taunts at administrators, it only shows that how critical you are even when you have the liberty to post anything you like. I have told you before that unlike you I don’t write my comments in MS word but, type them directly in this window and sometimes if there is a spelling mistake or an error, I correct it even after posting it. Or, I even add post script to my comment already posted. Which obviously you do not have that option BUT no one has ever altered your comments.

    Raju has just confirmed that we never altered his comments, you may ask NewGuy also i.e., IF EVER we have altered his comments? The only time and that is on this very thread just a few days ago i.e., on Feb. 17th, I’ve highlighted a small paragraph on his comment and told him, NewGuy I have highlighted a paragraph in your comment # 215. And, that was just in zest to show you what NG is saying and he responded by saying, “Yeah, you may highlight selectively from my comment, like media sometimes do to misquote cricketers” 🙂 And, he said that with a smile please check it, it is #221 in this very thread.

  317. #317 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 22, 2012 - 4:08 PM

    Munir

    The picture of Ijaz Butt with a red cross on his face which you have mentioned twice in 2-3 days, I want to inform you that it is NOT OUR ART WORK, its there on the internet and we copy pasted it. And, it is not just us, many other blogs have used it. Actually you were so happy to see that you added a few more adjectives to describe his personality and his dheetness.

    If you are so unhappy with KHEERA photos next time I will post Melons or Mango photos. Tell me your choice or preference and I will not disappoint you. And, that cartoon of big hands was for Ramiz Raja who keeps praising his bucket like hands and whenever he took a catch he used to say, he is a good fielder and he has bucket like hands. So, when he dropped a few I posted that caricature of a man with big hands. Are they too big for your liking?

    As regards gaaliyan dena we have always restricted gaaleez to abbreviations such as, ch2 or MC BC and you are not a farishta or a parsa, you too have said the same a lot of times. Or, is this the Umrah that is making you feel so guilty and you think we are vulgar and you are pious?

    Regarding Kamran Abbasi or Saad Shafqat, they are not bloggers, they are columnist and when they write on cricinfo they have to abide by their rules and also they go by the time and tide and they are paid for it. Saad himself has said that it would be politically incorrect for him to write against the policies, or even calling a spade, a spade is not allowed.

    Whereas, Kamran Abbasi when he tweets, he is more open, he has recently criticized Misbah as a negative player on the twitter and also called IB an OLD FART. Which I am sure he would never dare to write on PakSpin. He also criticized Misbah for playing Malik and making Hammad Azam sit outside and he wrote his playing XI on the twitter in which neither YK nor Malik are in his team whereas Hammad is.

    You have met Imran Khan in Dubai in the last ODI right? Don’t you remember what he said? He said, Misbah should play at no.3 or 4 otherwise he is negative. Misbah is so scared to play on the top because he cannot play swing bowling like Malik and opted to play lower down the order. How much more candid can Imran be? I don’t care what he says, because I don’t like his sponsorship and praise but, you consider him Ammana Sadaqna, so it is for you.

    And, why should I agree with Kamran or Saad on every matter? Especially when it my opinion is entirely different from theirs. Are you agreeing with me now on Misbah’s case? NO because you want to be his protector. But, before you have agreed with us and criticized Misbah, Malik, Akmal, Butt bigger one smaller one both, etc., etc. However if you keep changing your opinion and keep worshiping the rising sun, it is your prerogative but, not mine.

    A few days ago I have even mentioned how late Bob Woolmer used to treat me on his blog (at that time there were no blogs but, websites) he called himself a gentleman just because he was a gora and people used to worship him and yet he had the gumption to abuse me openly in a public forum. Not only that when his supporters used filthy language against me (because, they used to think that by buttering Bob, they can recommend a friend, a relative or someone close to them to be included in the team. They used to literally beg him to see so and so in the domestic circuit) no abbreviated gaali but full length and open gaaliyan, he published them on his website and deleted my comments which were written in pretty decent language and the only mistake was, I was telling him that Younus Khan is good for test and not for ODI. Which after a few days late Umer Kureishi also wrote in DAWN. Anyways, Munir you like to choose your words which suits your argument and ignore which corners you.

  318. #318 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 22, 2012 - 4:50 PM

    Munir

    Your Chaheeta Lt. Gen. Amir Abdullah Khan Niazi whose nick name was “Tiger” who acted like a GEEDAR. And that was not a title for any kind of bravery but, just a nick name and i.e., because he used to call his juniors by addressing them as tigers, hey tiger, listen tiger, come on tiger boy…. so whenever his name was mentioned as Niazi, people used to ask which Niazi? And, they used to say tiger Niazi. That is how he got that farcical nick name tiger.

    You may not even remember him or his pathetic deeds so you may “forget and forgive” him. But, you must know that he was a smuggler (paan smuggling) and a rapist and this is not me who is saying, but it is in Hamoodur Rahman Commission’s report and he was not only accused but charged and stripped from his military rank and pension by ZA Bhutto and later, Zia ul Haq jailed him because he was trying to clear his name and in that process he acted against the laws of the govt. etc. He was widely hated for what he did in East Pakistan not just by the Bengali population but the people of West Pakistan also hated him. And, when he was jailed people were happy and when he died, just a few family members attended his funeral.

    The reason I mentioned his name is because, Misbah is also from the same tribe of Niazis and the kinda bloopers tiger Niazi did, Misbah has done too, the only difference is one was in a battlefield and the other was in a cricket field. Although Imran Khan is also a Niazi (from father’s side only) his name was never used in that context because he did not fail his team on great occasions but, you would love to compare Misbah not just with Imran but, also with Tendulkar, Dravid and Lara.

    For e.g., since I heard the name of Samit Patel the English player, it reminded me of Sumita Patil the late actress, that is because the names sound similar, it is our mind that works in patterns unlike bits in computer that we see and think differently.

    I don’t see anything wrong in remembering someone because of someone’s name is similar, especially if their characters and personality traits are similar. You can think whichever way YOU like but, you have no right to tell me I am wrong and you are right. You are only supporting him because I criticized him for surrendering 90,000 soldiers actually it is 93,000 and you are trying to prove your judicious knowledge based on sympathies, humility and humbleness only to prove that I am in the wrong doing. Unfortunately history means accumulation of facts it does not mean distortion of facts or covering up the facts, which again is distortion. And the expression, let history be history does not mean its an end, history will remain as long as human civilization remains on this planet earth.

  319. #319 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 22, 2012 - 5:08 PM

    MUNIR KAY COMMENTS……….. MUNIR I AM SURE NOW YOU WILL RUN AWAY FROM THE BLOG AFTER READING THIS AND WHEN YOU COME BACK, YOU WILL FIND SOME EXCUSE TO SAY YOU WERE BUSY AT OFFICE OR GONE TO ISTANBUL OR FOR UMRAH LIKE YOU DID IN THE PAST. BE A MAN AND BE SPORTY, REPLY TO THEM AND DON’T HIDE, THIS IS JUST A BLOG. MY GUESS IS YOU WILL DISAPPEAR AFTER READING THIS BECAUSE, YOU DID THE SAME WHEN KHANSAHAB POSTED SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS TO CORNER YOU. THAT IS WHY BARAY BOLE NAHEE BOLNAY CHAHIYEH. 😀

    by Mohammed Munir on June 16, 2011 – 11:01 AM

    Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal and Mushtaq Ahmed … Look at who the fcuk are talking ❓

    #10 Mohammed Munir on May 16, 2011 – 4:09 AM

    Javed Khan …

    Aggar Wo paper Misbah nay banaya thaa … Tu Phhir Sub Sey Bari Laanat Bhee Issi BC Per Hogi. 😉

    #4 by Mohammed Munir on July 14, 2009 – 6:27 AM

    A very emotional and well written thread by Khansahab !!

    I fully agree with Javed Khan, it will be absolutely wrong to credit Younis Khan, Manager, Coach, or anyone else form this team for Fawad Alam’s achievements. Rightly said by Javed that if “Peer Mohammed Younis Khan Sahab Darbari” was such a spiritualist forecaster then why the F… did he not play Fawad in the first Test after he scored 83 n.o. in a four day game ? Plus did Younis also knew that Fawad can only score a century as an Opener and thus he send him to open the innings and not on his regular position ?

    I am really surprised as to how Younis Khan himself and some of his diehard fans are now trying to credit him for Fawad’s marvelous performance. If it was so, then Shoaib Malik can also claim full credit that because he did not open the innings and planned to send Fawad instead is that Fawad scored a century. So can Salman Butt say that because he did not play, Fawad had a chance to open and so on and so forth.

    This is so wrong, it is even worst then Wasim Akran taking credit for Aamir’s good performance, because at least Wasim had spotted him first and he did guide him, but here it is not the case for Fawad.

    #15 by Mohammed Munir on July 14, 2009 – 9:18 AM

    My my, I have been away from my office for some client meetings and so did not follow it, and now I think, I was lucky not to have followed it while it was happening.

    Shame on the entire fcuking middle-order, specially, Yousuf, Malik and Misbah. I swear to god, it is bloody so fcuking difficult being a fan of such a disgraceful team. It’s performances like these that make you feel guilty and one is not even able to see into the poking eyes of his Indian/ Sri Lankan colleagues.

    BTW, I too have respect for the guy (no, no not Misbah …. but Osman) 😉

    Well to my understanding, I think Osman is not actually serious on Misbah issue and rather he is making fun and trying to be sarcastic in that article.

    I mean he did mention writing a book, making a movie and compared Misbah with “The Don”, but this is not the Osman we all know. I really believe that in his efforts to be funny and sarcastic about PCB management and the Captaincy, he has gone on to ridicule them all the more.

    #6 by Mohammed Munir on January 20, 2011 – 10:33 AM

    Thanks for the new thread … it was overdue. 🙂

    A very well written and analytical article and off course “Good Timing” too !!

    Now a days I don’t read many other cricketing blog and mostly depend on LS, which provides me all-round cricketing news not only on Pakistan & India but even all other teams. However, after reading this new thread here on LS, I was kinda forced to go back to cricinfo and read this article of Osman Samiuddin about Misbah.

    I agree with Javed Khan and many other here that Misbah is acceptable as a player and he is surely in good batting touch at the moment, but he is a defensive and selfish captain, who lacks leadership abilities. Secondly, in Pakistan, playing negative and defensively cricket is never appreciated and this is proved by reading the remarks of Pakistani cricket fans’ on cricinfo article, most of whom are cursing and blaming Misbah for his spineless captaincy and reluctance of wining the second Test. Further, Misbah’s cricketing knowledge, leadership skills, man-management and captaincy capabilities are neither yet proved nor adequately tested. While on the other hand, Shahid Afridi, who is the current ODI & T20 Captain, is not only brave, strong and a natural-born leader but he is also connecting well with his players and bringing the best in many of them who were ignored earlier (Razzaq, Hafeez, Akhter, Ajmal, etc.). Most importantly, Afridi is a team player who sees above and beyond the realms of regionalism and jingoism. To prove this, Afridi has been struggling hard to bring back the culprits like Akmals and Maliks in the team again.

    Finally coming back to Osman Samiuddin’s article on Misbah, well I agree that Osman spoke about a book on Misbah, a movie too, Facebook, Twitter, comparing him with Don Bradman, pointing out that Misbah played only 2 ODIs last year while still he may become our ODI captain, and lastly suggesting Misbah to be Chairman of PCB in another 15 years. But I think this all seems like a skeptical and mocking effort from a shrewd and cunning journalist, and if is not really so, then still Osman has succeeded in making us laugh a lot on his wirte-up. 😉

    #51 by Mohammed Munir on January 24, 2011 – 5:35 AM

    Seeing the above Salman MF Butt’s video as well as reading Mazhar MC Majeed comments, it seems like Sahibzada Mohammed Shahid Khan Afridi has ruffled their feathers and has put his foot hard on their tails. 😉

    With characterless and corrupt-to-the-core Butt and Mazhar badmouthing Shahid Afridi, it goes to prove how honest and sincere Afridi is to Cricket and Pakistan.

    Peoples like Mazher Majeed will do anything for money while Salman Butt also involved his sister’s name and her wedding storey to save his own skin when he was caught red-handed with foreign currency notes in his hotel room.

    Big Shame on Salman-the-Butt.

    #172 by Mohammed Munir on February 3, 2011 – 10:23 AM

    Sahibzada Mohammed Shahid Khan Afridi sums it up after the Series Win …

    Afridi: “We have won after a long time, and it is good coming before the World Cup. What a talent Shehzad is! I thought 300+ was on, but the wicket was slow in the middle with the old ball. Hafeez is the best allrounder in my team, he’s done very well in recent times… All the fast bowlers did well. The first run out by Misbah was really good.”

    Wow … Afridi is oozing confidence all over, this is what a win can do for you.

    Ijaz &^%$@/^%$(!+?|# Butt Tera Moun Kala. 😉

  320. #320 by Raju on February 22, 2012 - 6:11 PM

    Mein bhi to itney zamaney se yehi kah raha hun

    sab se badri lanat mishap par

  321. #321 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 23, 2012 - 3:31 AM

    Aaina Unn Ko Dikhaya tou bura maan gaye!

  322. #322 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 23, 2012 - 3:48 AM

    Array ye kya musibat? Malak is again in the T20 team, mais pour quoi? And, why not Wahab Riaz? In T20 you don’t need batsmen till no.8 when it comes to that level, Umar Gul and Wahab Riaz can also swing the bat and play a few big shots. But Malik, if he goes there at no. 8 he won’t be able to perform. Because, he has not been scoring and will be under pressure to score and will get out easily. If he is selected as a spin bowling option. Again it is wrong, because you don’t need more than 3 spinners, Ajmal, Afridi and Hafeez are enough. I would have suggested Abdur Rahman but, it seems like the wicket is good enough for fast bowlers and England has proved that in the ODI’s, so Wahab would be fine to gamble with and not Malik.

    According to cricinfo ……..Pakistan (possible)

    1 Mohammad Hafeez,
    2 Hammad Azam,
    3 Asad Shafiq,
    4 Umar Akmal (wk),
    5 Awais Zia,
    6 Misbah-ul-Haq (capt),
    7 Shahid Afridi,
    8 Shoaib Malik,
    9 Umar Gul,
    10 Saeed Ajmal,
    11 Aizaz Cheema

    Here the question is: Who will open the innings, Hafeez and Hammad or, Hafeez and Awais Zia? I have tweeted Afridi to open the innings and he tweeted back, ” Correct, I am willing to open but, Misbah ka kehna hai DEKHENGE!” That means its a NO. Also, in reply to someone else about Hafeez, he has said yesterday that “Professor (Hafeez) is not willing to open the innings anymore, usko FAIL honay ka khadsha ha.” If the batsman himself is not willing to open the innings is it a good idea to insist him to open the innings? Malik ki tou baat sunn lee jaati hai, laikin doosraon ki nahee, wah wah.

    Malik should either open the innings or play at no.3 but at no. 8 he is useless, either his chance will not come or he may get an over or two and under pressure he will be out, because he knows if he fails he is OUT of the team permanently. Whereas, Gul or Wahab have no such fear if the come in the 18th over they can slog. As a spin bowler what miracles can he perform in 4 overs?

  323. #323 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 23, 2012 - 3:56 AM

    Munir kay peelay peelay emoticons dekh ker aisa lagta hai kay:

    Ek Yellow Cab hai ……….. nai, nai
    Ek Yellow submarine hai ……… ummmmmmm nahee

    Even better is: Incy wincy teenee meenee Yellow Polka Dot Bikini.

  324. #324 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 23, 2012 - 5:59 AM

    NewGuy

    I have read this http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/554885.html again i.e., after reading it yesterday and I really feel sorry that neither Indian nor Pakistani players behave like professionals. Just look at this news and read it how emotional and yet so professional. http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/content/current/story/554925.html

  325. #325 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 23, 2012 - 6:45 AM

    Array Bhai, if Kheera is annoying then, give him a Parsi name, Misbah CucumberWala 😀

    Likewise, Dhoni ICELOLLYWALA
    Tendulkar Saikda Nai BananayWala
    Gambhir BDCwala
    Afridi Lala ChakkayWala

    Other than Faroukh Engineer is there any other Parsi cricket player who played international cricket?

  326. #326 by raju on February 23, 2012 - 10:20 AM

    na na

    mishap buttwala 😆

  327. #327 by raju on February 23, 2012 - 10:28 AM

    chalo jee, hum to cricket nahi jaantey

    magr k accasi to sexpert hae

    jo baatein hum kahtey hain, abbasi ne bhi wiohi baaat karni shuru kardi hae

    ab mein naa manooo ka koi ilaaaj nahi

    negative captaincy, malak sania, recent victory a mirage

    sub kiuch jo hum kahte they

    http://blogs.espncricinfo.com/pakspin/archives/2012/02/opportunity_in_lifeless_surren.php

  328. #328 by NewGuy on February 23, 2012 - 1:04 PM

    Javed Khan,

    Absolutely true. Regarding the stories you link. I had the same thoughts. Sub-continental people haven’t evolved still. Many strides have been made by Indians in commerce and business, but in sports management they are still stuck in the old ways.

    This motta Sehwag needs to be thrown out of team to begin with. He is the most unprofessional cricketer I have seen in Indian team of late. Whatever said of Dhoni, his politics, his stubborn ways of sticking to his chosen people and methods, he is still very mature behavior compared to this oaf from Najafgarh.

    It’s time to make some hard decisions. But the Indian management of Srinivasan and Srikanth have their heads stuck in sand like an ostrich, and they keep repeating nothing is wrong.

    It’s no wonder Indians have started taking interest in other sports of late. I personally would like to see other sports competing head to head with cricket and taking away fans interest, that is the only way to teach this prima donnas that they are no longer the only show in town. It’s happening slowly.

  329. #329 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 23, 2012 - 5:43 PM

    This is Malik’s highest score (39) since June 2010 in ALL formats of the game. 144 is just below par, the av. score on this ground in T20 is 149. From my guess yesterday I said they will score between 130-140 they have made 4 runs more. Poor Hammad is once again a spectator from the dugout. Awais Zia has talent but, he is just a Hatora Maar player like Afridi wants to hit a six or a four on every ball. Umar Akmal was pathetic. Asad Shafiq was given out whereas IMO he wasn’t. The ball did not touch the wicket as Swann missed it perhaps his elbow or the sleeves touched the bails and the batsman was an inch short at that time. If this is a rule then it is a very stupid rule. I was watching live on TV and not on cricinfo so, from the slow motion replays everyone including the commentators were saying he is not out.

    Waqar said, Misbah Manooplating the ball, that is when he was batting. I dunno how he could Manooplate?

  330. #330 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 23, 2012 - 5:46 PM

    After Asad Shafiq’s run out, three wickets fell in succession. Hafeez hoicked it like an idiot, Umar Akmal played a hurried shot and got a golden duck. Afridi nut hit straight into the throat of Morgan at mid-wicket, close to the bowlers right hand. From 61/1 they were 74/5. Then came the jori. Anyways over all performance was pathetic, unless they perform miracles in bowling dept

  331. #331 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 23, 2012 - 6:08 PM

    Raju

    The plan is, if Malik scores like this in 2 more T20’s he is the CAPTAIN of the shorter version in future, you bet.

  332. #332 by raju on February 23, 2012 - 7:24 PM

    yes

    sania will be the captaaan and the chamakchalooooooooooooo

  333. #333 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 23, 2012 - 7:30 PM

    Raju — I was watching the match live as well as tweeting and here is one of my tweets….. the moment I said this Bopara was out

    JAVED ALI KHAN ‏ @badnoc Reply Delete Favorite · Open
    @ahsanaawan As long as Bopara is there England has hopes, coz he is experienced and “ice cool” like Dhoni

    England were in a very good position to win. Karim Pietersen’s wicket was the most crucial which Afridi got but, credit goes to Chuttkoo Asad who took a very good catch on the line and balanced himself in. Well done Chuttkoo.

  334. #334 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 23, 2012 - 7:32 PM

    Raju look at this picture, Sania is about to Kiss Afridi

  335. #335 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 23, 2012 - 8:01 PM

    Raju

    Rameez Raja Phutta Baja never misses an opportunity to criticize and diss Afridi. He was discussing with Nasir Hussain after the match and kept on asking him, his views about Afridi’s batting and Nasir Hussain gave him a good reply by saying if he fails with the bat he compensates with the ball and that is what his role is. But, Ramiz was again pestering him to say something against his batting and he kept telling Ramiz that you have to understand that every player has a role to play.

    And Missy Baba spent 30% of his speech time in praising Malik, because this was the time he wanted to vent out his feelings by saying there was so much criticism against his inclusion but, today you saw him playing so well and he is such an experienced player that no one from that position could have played like he did. Hahaha….. After 12 innings of single digit scores and since June 2010 this is his top score aur shaadi kay baad ye pehla chakka thaa… Missy protected Sania by not giving him the ball. That top score was enough for a licence to play the next 10 games.

  336. #336 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 24, 2012 - 2:09 AM

    Hahaha Misbah criticized the media with a reverse flick and hoicked it, now he is in trouble bakaoz they are after him now. Malik ki once again Taareefaon kay pullaan wo bee Naher walay pull tay bulla kay Sania kay sath baddo baddi ker kay……… Oh Misba kithay ray gaya Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa??? He asked the media not to criticize the captain alone for the 4-0 whitewash it is wrong. When he won the 3-0 test series he was taking all the credit and the same he did today just praised Malak and c’est ca.

  337. #337 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 24, 2012 - 3:24 AM

    WHO IS “Mudiyanselage Rangana Keerthi Bandara??? —- It is Herath”

    “Mudiyanselage Rangana Keerthi Bandara Herath”

    Naam lay tay lay tay murr jaye aadmi, one needs to use mnemonics or abbreviations.
    MR. KBH

  338. #338 by NewGuy on February 24, 2012 - 3:56 AM

    JK,

    If Afridi is in the team for his bowling, then what is he doing coming at #4? you wanted him to open the batting, you wouldn’t ask a bowler to open unless you thought he could score runs like a batsmen. That means Afridi is the team as an all rounder, he is expected to contribute with the bat as well. Otherwise he is not fit to be in #7 position, let alone coming at #4 as he did today. So, if Afridi is not a #7 then Pakistan needs a proper #7 who can bat a bit, not just bowl, and Afridi should some lower down the order. Typically this is a position in the Indian team held by the likes of Harbhajan or Zaheer in the past. I don’t think anyone would say Afridi is same like those two in batting. But in terms of his batting performance, he keeps playing the brainless shots, and every once in a blue moon play a good innings. This is not enough of an all rounder position. Rameez then is right to ask these question I would say. Although he may have ulterior motives, but that is besides the point. The question is fair.

    Today Afridi and Umar played brainless strokes and England fielder didn’t even need to move to take the catches, then it was left to Misbah and Malik to rebuild. Misbah is right in stating the problems in the team. Simply blaming Misbah for losses is just unfair.

  339. #339 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 24, 2012 - 4:12 AM

    NewGuy — Please read this:

    “It affects everyone’s form if Tendulkar keeps coming in and going out of one-day tournaments,” Ganguly said.

    “I said after the World Cup that Sachin needed to look at his one-day career because he had achieved everything in one-day cricket.”

    Ganguly dismissed batting legend Sunil Gavaskar’s suggestion that the selectors should talk to Tendulkar about his one-day future.

    “I don’t see any of the selectors stepping in,” Ganguly said. “They are not going to stand in front of Sachin Tendulkar and say ‘Listen little champ, you need to go’. That is never going to happen.”

    The Hindu newspaper urged former players to lay off Tendulkar, saying the decision to quit or not should be left to him.

    “A lot has been said — especially by former sportspersons who themselves stayed on well beyond their use-by date — about Tendulkar’s ODI career,” the paper wrote.

    “Whatever the intentions, these gems of seemingly timely advice are clearly uncalled for. Sachin has served the country with exceptional pride and genius for far too long and he deserves the right to choose his own time of departure.”

    A poll published by the Times of India on Thursday revealed that 57 percent of 47,000 respondents wanted Tendulkar to quit one-day cricket and 41 percent urged him to continue.

    In the immediate term, Tendulkar has two games — against Australia on Sunday and Sri Lanka next Tuesday — and a possible best-of-three-finals if India qualify, to silence his critics. AGENCIES

  340. #340 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 24, 2012 - 4:19 AM

    NewGuy

    On Afridi coming at no.4 you may not have heard Misbah’s interview, he said the situation was such that I promoted Afridi to go and start hitting — in other words he gave him a license to hit. It didn’t work, not only him and Umar Akmal but even Hafeez played a lousy shot to get out. Actually Asad Shafiq’s run out triggered the mini collapse. Yes Malik scored 37 after 22 months and his first SIX after his marriage vo bhee zore laga kay.

    Pakistan would have easily lost this match had KP or Bopara stayed a little longer. Gul and Ajmal bowled very well, Afridi too bowled well and contained Morgan and that slowed down the run rate otherwise KP was very aggressive anyways.

    The reason I want him to play at no.1 is because in T20 it doesn’t work. Did you not see what happened to Hammad Azam? Poor chap created a record, Did Not Bat, Did Not Bowl. Malik was lucky that he got a chance to bat also scored, if others have played well, he would have had no chance to play and he did not bowl either.

    In ODIs all of Afridi’s big scores have come from opening the innings.

  341. #341 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 24, 2012 - 4:34 AM

    NewGuy

    Of course Ramiz and Amir Churail have ulterior motives and they have forgotten how badly they used to play at times and how brainless was Amir Sohail. In fact he helped Jayasuriya in hammering so many sixes of his bowling in that match in Singapore? Where he scored a 48 ball 100.

    Ramiz was known as the KHUDDA fielder meaning each time the ball or a catch goes to him, everyone used to keep their fingers cross. When he held the simple last catch at the 1992 WC everyone’s BP shot up and they held their breath, whether he will catch it or drop it?

    Just now Wasim and Shastri were commentating the 9th match of the CBS and on Malinga’s sloppy fielding Wasim said, each time the ball goes to Malinga the SL team gets weary …… there is no doubt that he is one of the best bowlers in the world for ODI but that is not enough, fielding is as important as BOLDING.

    Wasim get a DNS (displaced nasal septum) surgery, your nasal voice reminds me “PIA air-hostels” announcements in the plane with their bareek nasal voice, “Peeen Aiyeeen Aaain keeN ParWaNz Chaar SiNfer eNk, RawaNgee kaiN lieN TaiNyaar HaiN, MuNsafiron say DarkhoaNst haiN kay vo anpNee anpNee PaiNtee, AnpNay PaiNtaon say BaaNdh laiN.”

  342. #342 by NewGuy on February 24, 2012 - 1:48 PM

    JK,

    I have seen Rameez bat so many times, and Sohail as well, they were not great fielders and were not very flashy batsmen either, similarly Shastri too was not too good, yet they all sit there and comment. But it is their job, so I don’t see the fact they were not great players as qualification to comment on current players. I read that Australia’s chief selector only played 6 tests and that too with modest success, yet he pulled the plug on the career of their greatest batsmen since the Don. Here he was just doing his job. But I agree that ulterior motives should not come out sine commentators are expected to be neutral. Although it never happens.

    As for Gavaskar, we all know he has no courage to say anything objective, he lost the opportunity so long ago because he favored money. Ganguly on the other hand, I am very impressed, that so far he is not lured into playing any one’s favorite. He speaks his mind. So does Kapil. The best part is that Ganguly has no animosity towards Tendulkar, he always gives him due respect, but objectively says Tendulkar should retire. No selector in India will ever ask him to step down, every child knows this, but not Gavaskar.

    While Indians are engaged in this past legends legacy and the silly 100 milestone, SL is playing very well. SL chased 283 against Australia and won in style.

    It appears that once Dilshan stepped down, SL is back to playing with flair. They have some exciting young players in Chandimal and Mathews. Also Mahela playing well at the top as an opener. They always find ways to innovate like this.

    India with their egos and rock stars will not make it to the finals of CB series. The finals will be between SL and Australia

    India will leave Australia with their tails behind their legs. Egos crushed. Rock stars should all be sacked. But then the selectors, media, BCCI everyone loves the rock stars more than the Country / Team win. Nothing to worry since IPL is starting soon, oh and there is small matter of Asia cup in March, but that is a side show for Indians before the IPL. SL / PAK are the serious teams to compete in Asia cup. I see Indian team completely melting before things can get better.

  343. #343 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 24, 2012 - 3:13 PM

    NewGuy

    I saw the match live last night when Clarke and Forrest were rebuilding the innings but, then in the morning I saw the scores on the internet. Good to see that SL is playing well in Australia. It is also good that they did not give the man of the match to Forrest for his century which IMO was a bit slow.

    However, the PoM award is debatable, I would have given it to Chandimal, no.1 because he is young and new in the team it would have motivated him more. No.2 he is very consistent. No.3 he was the one who took the total to almost 250 runs and the difference between his score and that of Jayawardene is only 5 runs.

    Now, India’s chances of reaching the semi-final are very bleak because, India needs to win the next two games and not just that, they have to wait and see after that, whether Australia beat SL or not? If so, then India will come in, still lots of combinations and permutations and the bonus point etc., to be taken into account or, even rain washed 1-1 point could change the scenario, so there are many a slip between the cup and the lip. IMO its asking too much from this Indian side which is not united and big guns are not firing.

  344. #344 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 24, 2012 - 3:33 PM

    Misbah’s row with the media has created a storm in the tea cup. He thought it is an opportunity to hit back at the media and criticized them by saying, when we lost the ODI series 4-0 they were demanding for the captain to be removed and make changes in the team by getting younger players and also criticized about Shoaib Malik’s inclusion. In my opinion it was a kinda knee jerk reaction from Misbah and it is too soon to boast about his own vision and farsightedness.

    He was not only boasting about his decision of including ‘the experienced’ shoaib malik but, was also telling to the media to shut up in a very subtle way by saying, media wanted the captain to be removed which is not fair because, they have so soon forgotten that this team has won the test series 3-0 and also won a few other series (under my captaincy) and after the 4-0 drubbing if they want to change the captain and the team. He asked, IF the new captain and new team fails then are they going to demand the same? By 2015 there will be six series and if in each series we lose, then will they be changing SIX captains and SIX teams? (This is an indication that he does not want to retire from any form of the game).

    Logically it may appear to be right and he thought it is a good way to ask them these questions but, politically incorrect because, it is like the elephants do not forget, the media never forgets either. They shall be holding a grudge against him and will not leave him if and when an opportunity arises. If Shoaib Malik fails in the next two matches, Misbah’s cronyism towards Malik shall be shredded and Malik may still be in the team because of her connections — I mean his.

    The larger picture of this action is, Misbah wanted to bring Malik back into the team with a very sinister motive, even if Misbah is dislodged as a captain from the ODI and T20 series on the basis of his age, he will recommend Malik to be made the future captain. Because, there is already a big lobby supporting Malik and Misbah and they are very much against Afridi. So, based on the notion of ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’, Misbah will play a catalyst role and plant his protege Malik to become “a dog in the manger” — which he already got this title long time ago. And, that will again be a very bad move because, Malik doesn’t deserve to be in the team ‘coz as always he shall be playing dirty and trivial politics bakaoz— that is his first nature, which cannot be changed. Read the scorpion and the frog story!

  345. #345 by Raju on February 24, 2012 - 4:53 PM

    Jk

    phutta baja is pathetic. Did he ever question malak’s seleajction when he failed in 4 odis. IMÒ mishaps wont rethre till 3rd world war which acc to astrologers is not going 2 happen bfor 2020. 😉
    And tendkar is disgusting. Why selectors cant ask him to retire? Read harsha’s latest blog where he questions this attitude on cricinfo. People are blind who want him to make the decision. Rarely sportsmen retire on their own. I dont think ponting would have retired if he wasumt axed. Tendkar must be axed.

  346. #346 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 24, 2012 - 9:05 PM

    Yeah Raju agreed that most players are retired when forced, I mean when they are actually kicked out and that includes Ponting too. In the desi culture players are worshiped especially those who are performing. In case of Tendulkar he gained the status of a deity and people worship him they cannot ask him to retire not everyone is bold enough to ask him, they are all scared of him and his supporters especially the political gurus of Shiv Sena, they call him the son of the soil. So who would dare to speak against him in Maharashtra? Others are simply being diplomatic although they also want him to go. Recently I posted a poll in which 57% want him to retire.

    Regarding Misbah, don’t worry he is digging his own grave and will perish because he has taken Panga with the media. If you, me or KS criticize Misbah some people think that we have a khandani dushmani with him, that is absolutely rubbish — in a game everything needs to be fair — and read the interview of Misbah on cricinfo it is not just us but the media wants to make Afridi the captain of the ODI and T20 (irrespective of the stats) Read this:

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-england-2012/content/current/story/555126.html

    An excerpt from that link:

    “On Thursday he led Pakistan to victory over the No.1-rated T20 team in world cricket and afterwards vented his frustration at the media — and the Pakistan media in particular — who seem to want Shahid Afridi restored as captain.”

    And, the media has asked for this not because they like him but, they have their own analysts who are aware of the game and not mere spectators besides they have also conducted polls and surveys. Laikin Succhi Baat Logon Ko Kurvi Lagti Hai.

  347. #347 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 24, 2012 - 9:17 PM

    NewGuy

    I am sure you remember my rants when I used to ask for Irfan Pathan’s inclusion in the team and he was constantly ignored by Dhoni because his blue-eye boy was Ravindra Jadeja. Here is an interview of IK and also the writers comments and comparison which I am copy pasting below which has a title of Irfan Pathan makes his case for number 7.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/content/story/555088.html

    “In his three ODIs in this tri-series, Irfan has bowled 29 overs for 153 runs and six wickets. He has opened the bowling, bowled first-change and has also been used at the death. It is, however, his batting that has provided a curious study of India’s selections. It is clear to everybody that Irfan is a better batsman than Ravindra Jadeja, at least at the No. 7 position, which usually needs bigger, cleaner strikes in the final few overs.

    It should be a no-brainer that Irfan should be preferred because wherever his bowling might be, it is likely to be more effective than Jadeja’s. In fact Jadeja always chosen ahead of Irfan,has bowled only 42.4 overs in six matches so far, for one wicket.”

    Dhoni did not play Irfan when he arrived and kept playing Jadeja. When pressed Dhoni said Irfan was his fast-bowling allrounder, but he didn’t want to play him as soon as he had arrived in Australia. LOL is this a reason? How many days or weeks a jet lag lasts? Dhoni is a dramay baaz.

    In batting, Irfan once sacrificed his wicket because Dhoni came dashing to his end, he could have stayed in the crease and got Dhoni out for that stupid call he made and ran. But, Irfan walked out of the crease to get himself OUT.

    And, when he was promoted to no.6 he hit 47 runs of 34 balls. Also in that tie match he was sent at no. 9 and he hit that crucial SIX to get a tie.

    I am not supporting Irfan based on any cast, creed, colour basis but, simply as a player that he is worthy of and he was denied his place only and only because of Dhoni.

  348. #348 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 24, 2012 - 10:05 PM

    Raju

    Zara ya report bhee parhna, mishap ki thori aur pole kholi gayee hai Urdu Akbaar Jung may
    http://e.jang.com.pk/02-24-2012/karachi/pic.asp?picname=11_03.gif

  349. #349 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 24, 2012 - 10:24 PM

    Watch this video of Shoaib Akhtar about Malik and Misbah

  350. #350 by NewGuy on February 24, 2012 - 11:28 PM

    Javed Khan,

    Yeah, I know you are not supporting Irfan based on caste. But merits. I too would like to see him at #7 and so do millions of Indians. Irfan seems to have quite bit of following. Some of the comments in CricInfo from people are saying that while Dhoni is captain this may not happen. Dhoni is stubborn in his ways, he has persisted with Jadeja even when he is not performing with bat, and it is well documented already he cannot hot big sixes. Someone coming at #7 need to be able to hit big sixes and Irfan has the ability as he proved in that 47 off 34 balls.

    In the past his performance with ball was not so good, but he is bowling well and he himself said in the interview if his bowling works out everything will fall in place. What I do not want is any sort of complacency from Irfan or any player, because once they get settled into team they think the place is granted. Hope he can continue to do well, and then it will hard for Dhoni to keep him out.

  351. #351 by NewGuy on February 25, 2012 - 3:24 AM

    The more I think about this issue in Indian team, it cannot be simply Sehwag and Gambhir having ego problems with Dhoni.

    Where as Dhoni may be manipulating things, while acting ICE cool outside. He does not speak his mind, instead always talk mumbo jumbo, his ICE cool exterior is fake, a man like that cannot be completely trusted. He possibly wants the seniors out, so that he can control the team the way he wants and can have all his lulloos like Raina, Jaddu, Ashwin, PK, so on who will all dance to his every tune.

    Tendulkar is not going to be around too long, and he is non controversial anyway, that leaves Sehwag and Gambhir who can match or exceed Dhoni in performance. So these two are threats to him. I think he is playing politics.

    There are other reasons for Gambhir / Sehwag to feel bad about Dhoni taking ICE cool credit. World Cup final is one example, Gambhir is the man who built the innings back up along with Kohli and then Dhoni when the pressure was on. I still recall how tense it was when Sehwag and SRT got out quickly, people even started leaving thinking there will be a collapse, or even run rate will mount. It was Gambhir who then counter attacked and took singles, doubles and found boundaries, took the pressure off. Even when Dhoni came up the order, Gambhir was settled and he helped Dhoni settle in, because GG was scoring freely.

    Had he not got out trying to speed up things, at the cusp of a well deserved hundred, he would have been MoM and he right deserved it. But Dhoni stole the show entirely, even his last ball six was so much theater like. He knew that shot would go down in history, so he deliberately played it even though it was not needed.

    So overall, I think the discontent became even bigger after WC, when Dhoni stole the whole show from team mates after it was Sehwag, Yuvraj, Tendulkar, Zaheer, and then Gambhir on which the win was built on throughout the tournament. Dhoni just came last and stole the whole show.

    There is no doubt Dhoni is one of the best ODI players and the best possible finisher, but his ICE cool exterior and his politician like comments are all fake.

    Whatever it is, dirty things are going on, and it’s not for good.

  352. #352 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 25, 2012 - 3:01 PM

    NewGuy

    Since Dhoni became rich, he has hired an image manager / PR manager etc (even Wasim Chakram has a manager, imagine?) he has changed. Remember earlier on he used to make a cheap squeak “Aiyeeeeeee” on every ball he used to collect it behind the stumps, that was his natural reaction that is if the ball was either too close to the wicket and missed it or, it was too close to the bat to get an edge. Secondly, on every single shot the batsmen used to play he used to yell at, CATCH IT.

    He doesn’t do that anymore, he got his hairstyle done differently, he dresses up differently and his over all image has improved and he has been taught how to talk in public especially with the media. All these acquired traits has also changed his personality and he knows the rule of survival of the fittest. And, you are absolutely right whoever is a threat, his policy is cut him, get him out.

    The same is being done in Pakistan since a long time, during Imran times he was a one man show. Inzi used to do a lot openly. Then Meesna Malik used to do it tactfully because he had support and a big clout behind him — now that the media is exposing him — yet he could not survive repeated failures. Younus Khan is a bhand, a very weak person rather a simpleton. Afridi is very emotional, good for the team but, when he gets emotional he does stupid things at the spur of the moment. Which he needs to control but, I guess you cannot teach new tricks to an old dog.

    That is why I was raving and ranting for a new young captain and I see Hammad Azam has the potential among all. Gul, is injury prone and unreliable. Hafeez is too bossy and he takes decision on his own at the split of a second like we have seen he wasted quite a few DRS by appealing unsuccessfully, he should have at least consulted the batsman at the non-striker end. Secondly, he swears a lot when a catch is dropped of his bowling or a runout chance is missed or on poor fielding. In batting he is not very consistent yet, better than before but not up to the desired level.

    Suckmuls are perpetual wicketkeeprs in the team, ye nai tou vo, vo nai tou ye. Most unreliable and dramay baaz, cannot be trusted so captaincy should not be given to any of the MULS.

    Misbah is too budda, kick him out of the shorter version of the game and his extra baggage Malak should be shoved in his……..

  353. #353 by NewGuy on February 25, 2012 - 4:19 PM

    JK,

    Yeah, I recall Dhoni used to say that, now in the last couple of years he has became extremely shrewd. Ganguly used to do that as well, but Ganguly had flair that was not cultivated with the help of a PR manager and media manager, he was a natural leader, and he developed many talented youngsters. Youvraj, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Kaif, Irfan, and even Dhoni floururished under him. Dhoni does not have a single player that he can claim to have groomed.

    The difference between Ganguly and Dhoni is that the former was confident enough of bringing talented and confident people into the team and lead them, while Dhoni has insecurity that prevents him from grooming gifted players. Therefore he prefers chamchas who cannot survive without Dhoni’s backing.

    In other words Ganguly brought gifted players with flair and backed them, people like Yuvraj and Harbhajan are prime examples. Dhoni on the other hand groomed Jaddu and Raina who cannot find place in team without licking his boots. Dhoni also made sure gifted players are getting side lines, he even has tried to put Tendulkar in the sidelines for long, but haven;t succeeded. Tendulkar won’t open his mouth ever so nothing comes out. Dhoni also had jealousy with Yuvraj, since Yuvi was a match winner in the middle order and a finisher with far more flair than Dhoni. I recall Dhoni always used to praise Yuvraj because there was some issue between them in beginning when Dhoni got captaincy ahead of Yuvraj.

    At one time Yuvi was VC and he was senior to Dhoni, people though he would get ODI captaincy. Then Dhoni got lucky with T20 WC in 2007, and everyone though he is a genius for bowling trundler Joginder Sharma in final over. It was Misbah’s folly though that got Dhoni fame.

    If that final was won by Pakistan, Dhoni would have never become captain of India. How certain events change the future and lives of people.

    I say this because, Dravid just stepped down, and Kumble was given Test captaincy, if T20 final was lost to Pak, Dhoni would have been stripped off captaincy experiment because he couldn’t win such a game, and Yuvraj the VC would have become ODI captain and possibly T20 captain too. It was Yuvraj once again was key in that T20, his Six Sixes and his Semi Final 70 against Australia were key for Indian wins in crucial matches, and it was again Gambhir who played big knock in final. Dhoni got lucky.

    So there is enough justification for far better players like Yuvraj, Gambhir and Sehwag to feel not being treated fairly while this Jharkhand wala runs away with glory.

    This time though, Sehwag and Gambhir though are far bigger fishes than Dhoni can fry in my opinion though. His conflicts with them will consume him and possibly finish him off eventually. Because once they come home and play on sub-continental pitches, Sehwag and Gambhir will bounce back to form, then Dhoni will have nothing to shout. Also threat is growing in the form of Kohli, who unlike Raina is not a chamcha to Dhoni.

  354. #354 by NewGuy on February 25, 2012 - 4:27 PM

    JK,

    Yes, Imran was a dictator, but Imran also brought players with flair and groomed them. Wasim, Waqar, and Inzi were groomed by Imran. These were some of the biggest match winners in Pakistan history. So, like Ganguly brought match winners and groomed them, Imran was a pioneer in that. He also had his share of chamchas, like that Akhtar guy who used to open and fail every time. But overall Imran did not promote mediocrity and he never had problem with confidence. He was a natural leader.

    Inzi I don’t know much except from what you say, because I missed a lot of cricket in this period. I take what you say, that he promoted mullah culture in team so on, and promoted whoever followed it.

    As for Misbah, he just doing an OK job considering the rock bottom Pakistan was in. This is what I always say. It is a transition period for Pakistan and someone needed to stabilize things on an off field.

  355. #355 by raju on February 25, 2012 - 5:35 PM

    if that final was won by pakistan ????????

    yes it wasnt won by pk bcoz pk lost the semifinal, and why they lost?????

    and who was the main culprit behind that loss

    mishaps !

    and today he’s being hailed as a saviuor for pk cricket. well dhoni should also offer his gratitudte to him in lite of this theory 😉

    chamchas are not only feature of dhoni, mishap also has a chamchi called sania !

  356. #356 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 25, 2012 - 5:37 PM

    Well NG, his OK job is not good enough, finding tough against good opposition in ODI and T20 and today England scored 150 which will not be easy for PK unless their openers succeed.

  357. #357 by raju on February 25, 2012 - 6:29 PM

    well sania humiliated again

    jaddu=malak

    chamchas galore!

  358. #358 by raju on February 25, 2012 - 6:41 PM

    from cricinfo

    9.4

    Broad to Misbah-ul-Haq, no run, length ball, outside off, Misbah reverse paddles the ball for six! defends

    reverse paddles phrase is crossed 😆

    well mishaps doing an ooooooosum job

    13 runs in 23 balls

    and his supporters will say

    he’s INSPIRING AFRIDI

    nonsesnse

  359. #359 by raju on February 25, 2012 - 6:43 PM

    khass kum jahan pakkkkkkk

    pk kab paaak
    hoga jk is nahhooosat sey

    gharaq ho baighairat captaan

  360. #360 by raju on February 25, 2012 - 6:55 PM

    will mishap chamchas explain why this guy azam was not selected till now

    why meesna malka

    shame mishap shame

    sheeer jingoism

  361. #361 by raju on February 25, 2012 - 6:59 PM

    mishap’s nonsense knock put pressure on all hitters

  362. #362 by raju on February 25, 2012 - 7:06 PM

    well played gulllllllllll

    at least you tried

    didnt gobleeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 24 balls for 13

  363. #363 by raju on February 25, 2012 - 7:11 PM

    jk

    phutta baaka khasseees raaja is not saying a single word about mishap’s knock

    he just says middle order didnt play

    pathetic

  364. #364 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 25, 2012 - 7:16 PM

    Yeah
    The match is over

  365. #365 by raju on February 25, 2012 - 7:17 PM

    chalo jeee series baraabar

    a comprehensive defeat for pk

    i fail to understand what is mishaps role in this format

    any one with basic understanding of ckt will fail to defend mishaps misfitness

  366. #366 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 25, 2012 - 7:20 PM

    Did you see Hammad Azam playing today? He plays good confident cricketing shots and I think it was a no ball, the good view was blocked by Afridi and the other view showed Bopara’s foot was out of the crease and two balls later he bowled a same no ball.

    Misbah wasted 11 balls and he is such a bay sharam that he was smiling after getting out.

    HAMMAD AZAM FOR FUTURE…..

    Awais Munda is too predictable he is just a maar dhaar guy and cant be relied he too wasted 6 balls 6 in 12 balls. But, Misbah is the main culprit once again.

    He gave Malak one over and he went for 10 runs so suddenly he withdrew him to protect his ass. SPIN BOWLING OPTION HAAN? cH2

  367. #367 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 25, 2012 - 7:25 PM

    One of Misbah’s supporters asked Misbah to drop Afridi in the 3rd T20.

    The batting order must change

    Hafeez should play at no. 7
    Try Munda Awais with Hammad Azam
    Play U Akmal no. 3
    No. 4 Afridi
    Then Malak, Masbahahaaha NO, NO even before them Gul

  368. #368 by Raju on February 25, 2012 - 8:05 PM

    Jk

    let me give u some intrstng stats

    mishap made 13 in 24 balls

    24 balls mean 4 overs
    it was t20 match

    so mishap ate 20% of deliveries
    and scored 13 which is 10% of runs almost

    so what else needs to be analysed

    he shoukd have senj azam or afridi bfore him

    but a nothing crktr cant do anyjthing
    shame!

  369. #369 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 26, 2012 - 12:25 AM

    Raju — I was watching the match and saw him playing pathetic cricket, when Afridi came in Misbah talked to him and asked him “Dekh Zara Roke Kay haan” and Afridi nodded in affirmative. Afridi took one run on the first ball and went to the other end on which the crowd applauded that he is not trying to hit sixes and fours from the first ball and Misbah blocked 5 dot balls.

    Afridi thought it is the situation i.e., 50/5 in 8.4 overs i.e., when Shoaib Malik was out, so if not sixes and fours at least ones or twos, but in Misbah’s dictionary tuk tuk and dot ball kay siva kuch nahee. So, after the over Afridi hit a four and a six and took a single. Misbah blocked all the remaining 3 balls he faced in that over. Four overs later Misbah was out after playing his tuk tuki 13 runs in 24 balls strike rate of just 54.

    Then came Hammad Azam he scored 21 of 24 runs in his short partnership of 24 runs with Afridi. Azam played much faster than Afridi 21 in 15 balls strike rate of 140. Afridi scored 25 in 23 balls and he was the last one to get out. Hammad stayed for the no-ball decision one angle was blocked by Afridi and from the other it was obvious that Bopara’s foot was outside the line. Two balls later he bowled a line no ball.

    Now what have we seen here? A defensive and negative captain who does not want to change the opening batsmen, jab kay Hafeez is constantly getting out on low scores and he himself has said, he does not want to open. He should have sent Hammad Azam with Zia (I don’t like Zia’s style of playing, even his SIX in the last match was a tukka hook on the leg side) he also wasted too many balls today and his strike rate was only 50. So, I would have sent either Asad Shafiq or Umar Akmal with Hammad Azam. (Ideally it would be Afridi and Azam, but they would never do that).

    Malik should not be in the team. He is a total waste, Dekh liya Spin Bowling Option ko? He did not bowl in the first T20 and in the second just one over because he was being smashed. This is called tu meri protect ker mai teri kerta hoon! There is no honestly, sincerity in the team, saari dramay baaziyaan to highlight individual performances. Cheema is also not a good option either Junaid Khan or Wahab Riaz, he is too expensive and not suitable for T20.

  370. #370 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 26, 2012 - 12:33 AM

    NewGuy

    On Dhoni’s shrewdness and his insecurity as compared to Ganguly, all I can say is: When you have money you can hire a image manager, PR manager, media manager whatever but, that uncouth behaviour, the lack of education when you are not a university graduate cannot bring finesse in that individual, especially if you don’t go to a reputable university — you remain a paindoo. Besides, there is another factor and it is, KHANDAANI baat, he is a jaat and lohar from Jharkhand and in case of Sehwag the Najafgarh ka Dhobi they will never improve. Sometimes when you grew up in a big city and merge with decent people you change. Na Dhoni aur Na Sehwag ko ye Aezaaz hasil hai. Both are Jatt and Raangar. So, they will have this sense of insecurity, which you will not find in Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly etc.

  371. #371 by raju on February 26, 2012 - 9:56 AM

    jk

    this is what cricinfo report says about mishaps captainy yesterday

    Pakistan lost half their side for 50 by the ninth over, leaving their captain, Misbah-ul-Haq, to try to remedy a situation that he is not really designed to address. In both matches, slower balls have not as much deceived him as stripped him bare. He has done much to stabilise Pakistan in Test cricket, but the argument for a new one-day captain is a persuasive one. Bairstow had a say in his dismissal, too, a brilliant diving catch at long-on as Misbah charged at Graeme Swann.

    Consolation for Pakistan came in the promise of Hammad Azam. Misbah has yet to allow him a bowl in this series, which is short-termism at its worst with World Twenty20 approaching, but even at more than 10 an over he posed a threat until a steepling blow was held at long-on by Jos Buttler, who had been off the field with an injured hand sustained when he dropped Umar Akmal at short midwicket, and who in one moment proved his fitness.

    Isnt this what we are saying all along, but we are called afridi chamchas, behoodas, conceited , anti buttson etc..

    why pro mishaps are all hush now, say something

    full article here as some beloggers doubt authenticity of the blog

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-england-2012/content/current/story/555214.html

  372. #372 by raju on February 26, 2012 - 10:03 AM

    senkdra phir rah gaya

    ab bus kar bhuddey, ghar jaaa

    jo kamaaya hae wo kyu gunwaaa raha hae

  373. #373 by raju on February 26, 2012 - 10:15 AM

    halo jee, curtains fir india

    i think they are out othe finals

    dhobi’s honeymoonover

    2 wcs but now humiliation

    well thats nature of the beast

    played a mishapish knock

    badbuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu…………..

  374. #374 by raju on February 26, 2012 - 11:01 AM

    s blog also echoes our views about reasons for test series victory, sania malak, negative capatiancy etc

    now are all these anti mishap or its a simple matter of accepting the truth

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/24/the-dangers-of-a-winning-formula.html

  375. #375 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 26, 2012 - 12:15 PM

    Raju

    Your quote from cricinfo and comments below that, aren’t they my rants for such a long time? I was calling for a few changes among the players and also in batting order. People thought I am crazy, I am a bloody Afridi fan — even though I was not talking of Afridi — I was talking about Hammad Azam’s inclusion in the team. And, this is going on for years. Previously he was taken in the squad for the WC T20 and they did not play him in a single match. He was not even considered for the 2011 ODI WC.

    Remember when I was praising his talent a few weeks ago, even you called him as “HAMMAM A CHAMCHA OF YOURS” I am sure NOW you must have seen him playing? As long as Hammad and Afridi were playing in defending the score which was over 10 an over RR for almost 8 overs to go, they both were a threat to England, especially Hammad who was playing with more authority than BOOM BOOM.

    I told you before that I saw two of his innings, one in WI and the other against BD and he was playing like a matured batsman and hitting the ball cleanly. At that time he was 18 years old and on that basis he was selected and never given a chance. Whereas, this Awais Zia Munda is over hyped by the selectors and the media, honestly speaking I am not impressed by his style of batting. May be it is two early to say but I saw two of his innings, he wants to hit everything in the last match he clicked briefly and hit Finn for a six that was a hook shot and connected but, that is it. In yesterday’s match they trapped him with slower balls just like they trapped Misbah. Even Afridi was undone by The Broad with two slower balls in a row.

    After all this is going on for over 3-4 years that fast bowlers are continuously bowling slower balls and despite all this, if a batsman cannot see, identify or if he is not prepared for a slower ball then he is not a batsman, just a hathora player and likes to play pre-meditated shots.

    I hate this notion of moving away on the leg side and exposing the wickets to the bowler to slog. Once in a while it may have worked but, it cannot work all the time because, bowlers to have brains and they can bowl a normal outside the off stump delivery which is unreachable by the batsman because he has already moved away from the stumps and it is beyond his reach, on top of that its a slower delivery.

    IF at all they want to move, they should move towards the off side and that too just a little (without exposing all 3 wickets) that way they can play over the square leg, over the mid-wicket or even in deep fine leg. IF the bowler tries to deceive the batsman then he has to bowl away from him, in that case anything down the leg side is a wide ball. IF he tries to bowl wider in the off-side the batsman has already taken a step towards off, he can play that shot, if the bowler tries to bowl it slightly away from the off then again it could be a wide. But, the best technique is to remain calm and stay in one place, let the bowler make the error.

    Anyways, I don’t understand where the main coach or the batting coach is? Because, when these shots are played repeatedly and without any result or most of the time a negative result they must find a remedy and tell their batsmen not to play such stupid shots by exposing all 3 stumps.

  376. #376 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 26, 2012 - 12:32 PM

    NewGuy

    Once again Dhoni showed his true class — the cheap Jharkhand mentality. You can ride on your luck for sometime but, not all your life. The same is happening in case of Tendulkar’s luck that he used to get a life or two and still get a hundred. Then came a time he was getting out in the 90’s and now he gets out at any score especially against good fielding teams (not Pakistan) if he is not getting out by the bowler he got run out yesterday, it means he needs fresh legs?

    Dhoni, the dramay baaz, the so-called ice cool, greatest captain of India ever produced, his lady luck has also PADUKONED him, I mean deserted him. And, he is to be blamed for most of the defeats because of poor selection of team and ill treatment towards some of the players and patronizing a few of his chamchas. This is not going to work and it did not work. In yesterday’s mach 250 was not a difficult target, but they were all out for 165 under 40 overs.

    He sent Irfan Pathan after Ashwin, I can’t believe this. Just because Ashwin had a century to his name lately? But, Irfan plays at a much better strike rate than others and he should have batted above Jadeja but, that will not happen as long as Dhoni is the captain.

    Despite coming at a time when nothing could be done, Irfan hit two sixes and tried to accelerate the RR (which was not an issue at that time) but, no one had scored and no one was left to company him he thought he should try to play his natural game. India has been stripped Naked in Australia. Sri Lanka after losing against Pakistan went to SA got beaten but, won a few and now in Australia, they are playing much better than India, especially their middle order in Chandimal, Parera and Mathews are stabilizing their team. You cannot always rely on the opening pair or on the top order. Anyways, what goes up must come down.

    IMO Dhoni should be sacked from the captaincy to get a taste of his own medicine. In that case he might find difficult to find a place in the team especially the way he is keeping the wickets these days, someone will take over the job of keeping from him and he will be out of the team completely.

  377. #377 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 26, 2012 - 12:39 PM

    Raju

    Yar that Farooq Noman is a Ch2, he writes something else when he writes for cricinfo and he writes something else in DAWN and on the twitter his views are something else. Chorro uski baat.

    Even Kamran Abassi’s views on twitter are very different from what he writes on Pakspin. He is totally against Misbah and Malik on the twitter and he called YK and Misbah (without mentioning their names) as old farts in the team to which some of their supporters criticized Abassi for using that word. On twitter people openly use Ma Bahen and F words there is no censorship. Yesterday dozens of Ajmal’s supporters tweeted gaaliyan to Finn for pushing Ajmal when he ran out the later. And, he is such a Ch2 he is asking them to grow up u $#&%*&(*) the fact is, if he had apologized him then and there, it wouldn’t have gone this far. But, you can see very clearly that when he pushed him, he pushed it with a vengeance and hatred which was very obvious on Finn’s face. The batsman was run out there is no denial but, there was no sportsman spirit there in the so-called English Gentleman.

  378. #378 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 26, 2012 - 12:51 PM

    Raju

    Aamira Jaan Ada, jail say rehaa ho ker vapis aa gayeen hain, aur mazeed adayain dikha rahi hain, chhupp saadgi kay nash O numa chehray par kafi vazeh hain, jaisay — Izhar bhee mushkil hai, chup reh bhee nahee saktay, majboor hain UFF Allah, kuch keh bhee nahee saktay!

    I think he has been told by his lawyers to remain quiet and play it down because, right now the team is playing the T20 and no one will pay much attention to his dukh bhari daastan basically he is aiming for sympathies and that too in a very organized and orchestrated way to get votes to get back into the team ASAP through a reduced ban. Jab Gunjay Ko Naqoon Nahee Hotay tou wo kya kerta? Aur agar hotay tou vo kya kerta?

    Reportedly he was whisked away from the airport to his 4 crore KOTHA which he bought from the Juwwa, Sutta paisa and he will spend most of the time watching Mujray – I think that is what he should do from now onward.

    The PCB jokers must forget about him and utilize the existing resources from the 180 million population and don’t go after that pretender, offender chachoonder, he is not so naive and innocent as he is appearing now. You cannot take away stripes from a Zebra and if you DO, he would say DHENCHOO…. which is a kinda THANKOO.

  379. #379 by NewGuy on February 26, 2012 - 1:18 PM

    Javed Khan,

    India are out of the tournament baring the shouting, i.e, just a formality the last match against SL, which they will lose for sure, because SL is full of confidence and India is fighting off field issues with media.

    I agree with what you wrote about not having a good college education and / or not hailing from a good khandani background surely affects an individual. Dhoni is classless and he is also clueless. He has been lucky for too long, but it’s all over.

    This has been a disastrous tour, even worse than England. The wheels have fully come off. Irfan coming behind Jadeja and Ashwin is a joke. He is better than both. He hit a huge six off Lee, and it is not possible without skills.

    These are though only one of the many problems. Dhoni is in over his head in this, at this point, looks like the team wants to lose to derail things. It happened in 2007 WC under Greg Chappel when there was so many insecurity and infighting. It is happening again with Dhoni and the coach Fletcher is just a passenger.

    Come to think of it, all the success of India for going up #1 Test ranking and WC win is because of Gary Kirsten probably. He was driving the team except for taking field. He was giving meticulous instructions to everyone on how and what to play, and he must have been the real glue that gelled everyone together. Dhoni should thank Kirsten. Now he is gone, Dhoni is exposed for the Jharkhandi Gawali that he is.

    In terms of players and skills India still has plenty, it’s only a question of directing it well and having the right team selection. But leadership must change. It is very clear they no longer will function under this captain / coach. Dhoni has run his course and this has to be the end. If they continue with him they will lose also at home.

  380. #380 by NewGuy on February 26, 2012 - 1:26 PM

    Dhoni said this series is prep for 2015 WC. What a load of BS. No one prepares 3 or 4 years prior for WC, because so many changes will happen in team. Many players will come in.

    Usually WC win are all based on form of team for last one year to six months.

    Dhoni used that excuse to put Sehwag out of team for many games, and he got the results he deserved, and the infighting he asked for.

    Come of think of it is now a guarantee Dhoni won’t even be captain in 2017 WC.

  381. #381 by NewGuy on February 26, 2012 - 1:32 PM

    JK,

    Here is something for you from Bishen Bedi on Dhoni.

    Karan: People say that Dhoni has all the right instincts for a one-day captain but he doesn’t have the temperament to be a Test captain. Do you agree with that?

    Bedi: It’s not a question of temperament. Let me cite an example. Richi Benaud once said… Australian captain… he said captaincy is 90 per cent luck, 10 per cent ability but he said I
    wouldn’t go for the 90 per cent if I didn’t have the 10 per cent and here is a case where the entire thing is dependent on 100 per cent luck.

    Karan: Dhoni has run out of luck?
    Bedi: I think he has.

    I am sure you will agree with this, Bedi think Dhoni was all luck. This is the first time ever I have heard a prominent figure saying this publicly.

  382. #382 by Raju on February 26, 2012 - 5:57 PM

    Jk

    tum to azam ke cumment ko sanjida le bhaitey, mein ne to tafreehan chaheeta kaha tha
    aur sachi bat ye hae ke mujhe azam ke barey zyada nahi pata tha magr tum tareef karte they to mein ne mazaqiya ye bat kahi 😉
    but ab azam ko khelaana lazim hae.mishap kahta hae batting failed but he failed as usual.

  383. #383 by Raju on February 26, 2012 - 7:18 PM

    Jk

    feb is ending and u drafted this blog in start of feb. Time for a freshie perhaps?
    How abt an analysis of england’s tour and mishap’s brave kaptani.

  384. #384 by Ali Ahad on February 26, 2012 - 10:00 PM

    I have been reading all the comments and I just want add my two cent about the indo-pak cricket. I start with Pakistan first, Misbah, Younis, Farhat and Malik has to go. Bring in Nasir Jamshed, Shahzeb and Ahmed Shahzad along with Hafeez and work on their flaws for sure we can find two proper openers with flare. Middle order should be made of Asad, Fawad Alam and Umar, Hammad and Lala will fill the allrounder and then bowlers. As far as captaincy is concerned give Hafeez the rein of the team with Azam as his deputy. I don’t care if Hafeez swears, if a fielder drops a catch then one should scold it because that is how they are going to learn, ‘yeh latoo key bhoot hai’ if I am the captain I would make the culprit take hundred round of the ground and then ask him to walk to the team hotel instead of taking bus. I can bet that when Whatmore becomes the coach both Farhat and Malik will have issues. Dav has no nonsense policy and if you don’t improve your game he won’t let you play in the team.
    Now, some comments about the indian team, it is true that Dhoni has issues with the seniors and he has insecurity. I think BCCI is sticking with him is because winning the world cup and probably they don’t see anyone else as a future captain. Viru has age against him, he will be 36 by the time of WC 2015 but for me a player passes his prime around 34-35 unless you are a special talent and Gauti is not that tactically sound or probably I haven’t seen him as captain for many matches. I have read that Virat is a captain material and he can be a possible replacement of Dhoni, let him make T20 captain and see if he can be that gelling agent that was missing from the indian team.

  385. #385 by NewGuy on February 27, 2012 - 3:28 AM

    Here is a few more excerpts from Bishen Bedi who says it the way it should be. Many of his views are same as mine. Note the highlights.

    On why Dhoni should be replaced.

    Bishan Singh Bedi: No not only that. His performance both in front and behind the stumps leaves a lot to be desired.

    On his leadership

    Bishan Singh Bedi: No, Dhoni was struggling. And I have never been a great fan of Dhoni as a captain too, to be honest, whether it’s one day matches, whether it’s Test cricket, I have never been a great fan of his, for the simple reason, to my mind, he is far too negative a captain, to be captaining India.

    Bishan Singh Bedi: Most definitely, because, this is again where Dhoni is captaining the team in Chennai which belongs to the Board president. And the chairman of the selection committee is also an ambassador for the same team. You don’t need rocket science.

    Bishan Singh Bedi: Defeat makes it unbearable. It makes it worse, it makes it unbearable. You can’t have people like Pravin Kumar or this fellow, Raina and they belong to your clique.
    Karan Thapar: Too many cliques in cricket.

    Bedi is telling openly what everyone been pointing out secretly, that the likes of Praveen Kumar, Raia, and Jaddu are cliques of Dhoni, and Dhoni himself is a clique of board president Srinivasan who own Channai Super Kings where Dhoni is captain and Cheif selector Srikanth is brand ambassador. Talk about nepotism and sycophancy at its worst.

  386. #386 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 5:14 AM

    Hey guys, I am sorry I was away all day and could not even check the comments, its past midnight here and i have just read all the comments of Raju, NG and Ali Ahad. Thanks for the input.

    Raju, I was thinking of writing a new thread based on the same lines you have suggested i.e., analysis of the tour. Honestly I was busy plus I was also lazy and then I thought let this T20 be over and I will write a new thread. Inshallah I will.

    About Hammad Azam mai nay koi dil pay nahee liya, I was just trying to make a point that he is very talented and because of nepotism, favoritism and cronyism he was kept out of the team and a Meesna got into the team blocking him again in all the 4 ODIs and the first T20. But, in just one match he showed his talent and they cannot drop him from the 3rd T20. About your other points I will cover later.

    Ali Ahad, good to see that you keep reading the blog, but you should keep writing as well. Its not that I am against Hafeez per se but, his temperament is a bit different and IMO he does take decisions in haste, for e.g., when it comes to ask for a DRS, he should first consult his colleague who is standing next to the umpire but, he not only thinks he is right but instantly calls for a review and wastes it and this happened many times. The real test of a player is when he leads the team as a captain for a good number of matches. Earlier he was in and out of the team for a long time and credit goes to Afridi to bring his confidence back. If he is chosen as a captain over Afridi, its not fair because, Afridi did not fail as a captain, he played against better teams when the team lost. Secondly, the team was forming groups, there was jingoism in the team.

    I think it would be fair to reinstate Afridi as captain for ODI and T20 till 2015 and make Hafeez his deputy or, even better to make Hammad Azam as vice captain, especially if one thinks of long term investment. Because, Hammad is capable of leading the team and a gradual transformation would be better than throwing him in the deep end.

    NewGuy — I shall be replying to your comments separately in a little more detail before I hit the sack because, I want to watch the T20 tomorrow.

  387. #387 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 5:35 AM

    NewGuy

    I have read all your comments about Dhoni, team performance and Bedi’s criticism. I am glad that Bedi is reading our blog 😀 Because, he is not saying anything new than what we have written over here. I have all the time been saying that he is lucky and you have concurred my opinion. I even joked about PADDUKONED but, the truth is, I have never rated him highly and I have even argued with my elder brother and older cousins when they say Dhoni is the best captain ever! I always said this and I will insist that it was Ganguly and not Dhoni. Some mention the name of Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi but, his tenure was very short and let alone T20, there were no ODI’s during his time. He was a great cricketer and a captain but, Ganguly gets more marks from my side. Even now he is straightforward and fair in commenting.

    Bedi Mash himself is a crook and a big mouthy fellow just like Sarfaraz Nawaz of Pakistan but, sometimes they both say a few things which are right and others do not have the courage to say. Bedi Mash is a Sardar so you can expect anything from him and Sarfarz is an uncouth, blabber.

    India losing so many test matches in a row after being the NO.1 test team in the world and now they are out of the tournament is in a way good for India and Indian cricket. Dhoni has pressed the panic button himself and I am sure no one is going to rescue him when the Media will go after him, neither Srini nor anyone else. I do agree with you that KhrishnamaChari ShriKanth is a puppet and Dhoni because of getting so popular and also because of acquiring so much wealth was using his clout and behaving like a dictator.

    Dhoni’s treatment towards Irfan is deplorable and he will face the music now for patronizing Jaddu Paddu. I agree with Ali Ahad that Virat Kohli should be given a chance, earlier my suggestion was to give Ashwin the mantle to lead but, I think Virat a bit more senior and more experienced than Ashwin and he seems to be OK other than showing his middle finger to the crowd in Australia, I don’t like that, he should have shown his FIST because Australians deserve that fist and not just a finger.

    Raina is a THAALI KA BAINGAN he can be on anyone’s side i.e., whosoever is in the power he is their Chamcha. Basically he is a spineless person. Yuvraj may not be able to play this Sept. T20 so thee is no point in talking about him now. About the future no one knows.

    I agree that it is very stupid of Dhoni to say this is for 2015, you don’t plan that far, 3 years is a long time because, not only Tendulkar, Dravid but, may be Sehwag will also retire, who knows? Gambhir is arrogant and short tempered and he should not be given the captain’s role EVER. India should find out a wicket-keeper if Karthik is still in good form he should be brought back.

    I won’t be surprised if Dhoni’s lady luck PADDUKONES him and bestows her blessings on Irfan Pathan and if he is chosen as captain of the shorter version of the game, it is possible because in India it has happened that Muslim players have been given the role of Captaincy, not just Pataudi but Azharuddin too. Zaheer? I don’t think so, I think he has either passed his prime or he will in the next one year or so because of his physique and his injuries but, Irfan is much younger than him. So, it will not be a surprise for me after this recent performance from Irfan will give him a chance to lead. We have seen ups and downs in player’s career and in PK we have seen so many like Hafeez, Misbah, Malik, Farhat and now they are even willing to take back Mohammad Aamir the culprit.

  388. #388 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 5:43 AM

    INDIA STILL HAS A CHANCE TO REACH THE FINALS? PLS READ THIS.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/content/current/story/555370.html

  389. #389 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 5:48 AM

    For tomorrow’s T20, I think Hammad Azam should be sent before Malik and Misbah. No matter how much you rant against Malik and Misbah, they will still be there in the team and they will do MUNN MAANI. Bakaoz behind every Khassi Man is a great woman! 😀

    I won’t be surprised if the Munda Awais is dropped and replaced by FartHat.

    Cheema should not be in the team, instead they should get Wahab Riaz.

  390. #390 by NewGuy on February 27, 2012 - 1:37 PM

    JK,

    Dhoni will face music sooner than later, once media starts going after him, they won’t spare him for the arrogant manner in which he has been stone walling them for too long, they can’t raise too much then because he was popular. But, everyone is now coming to see that he is such a limited cricketer and even less as a person.

    You talked about Dinesh Kartik, he is in good form I heard, he scored three centuries in Ranji recently, and he is younger and eager. I doubt though he can push out Dhoni, such is the social corruption in sub-continent. If it was Australia then for sure.

    As for Irfan, I don’t think it matters whether he is muslim or not for qualification as India captain. Azzaruddin was one of the very best players in team then and it came to him naturally. No one talks about him now because of his role in match fixing. It will be based on merit, as of now Irfan is not even sure of his place in team, not just because of Dhoni, but his bowling needs to be consistent. As of now he is doing OK, and if he can cement a place and become one of the seniors then only this is possible.

    Remember even Kumble who was a big figure did not get captaincy until very last, that too only because Dravid stepped down and no one else was around to be captain.

    Asia cup team will be announced in two days, let’s see what Srkanth will do, but I don’t expect a lot because as you said he is a spineless puppet.

  391. #391 by NewGuy on February 27, 2012 - 2:47 PM

    JK,

    I read the story in link you provided, saying India still has a chance. Here is what the great kaptaan has to say on this:

    “That would be saying I am very optimistic, seeing that we have not consistently done well with the bat, which means whatever the opposition scores we will have to score in 40 overs, which will be a very difficult task, but I am happy that at least there is a chance subject to some other game, but I would love to take it.”

    So, he has already said it is too hard to win, why even bother to take field. This is the negativity of this man. You say Misbah is negative, I never heard Misbah say it is not possible to win, even before playing.

  392. #392 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 3:42 PM

    NewGuy

    on Dhoni and Misbah’s negativity. I have heard Misbah talking about the drawn test against Sri Lanka (it is on one of the blogs in an audio file) he said, we had to score 171 in 21 overs to win that test match and there was time but, we decided it would be rather safe to play for a draw because we had already won the series. He said that because Dilshan played mind games with him by saying, we will get the Pakistani team out under 150 and he got shit scared. Not just us, so many blogs have criticized this and I will try to see if I can copy that audio file and will paste here.

    I shall be glad to see Dhoni’s back. 😀 Now, imagine the height of ignorance, every single person in the Indian team not just the players but, the entire troupe announced that India are out of the tournament even the gurus at the BCCI and Dhoni acknowledged it in the interview that India is out of the tournament. Then they discovered only when the Australians pointed out that India still has an outside chance, how can they ignore it? We as bloggers don’t follow in detail, but I wrote on the blog earlier that, “there are a lot of combinations and permutations that India needs to win those 2 games with a big margin and Australia must beat Sri Lanka in the last match only then India can qualify and there are many a slip between the cup and the lip.” I am not copying it from my own comment but, simply writing it out from my memory.

    If the team cannot calculate their own points and standings correctly, how will they form a strategy and a back up plan? They simply go out and play without any plan without any fair selection. Anyways, this is really unbelievable. When I read on the cricinfo that Dhoni was saying India is out, I thought may be they have calculated everything including the bonus point, run rate, no. of wins etc., but it turns out that Jarkhand ka Jhara howa whatever will not only remain uncouth but, he will mislead others too.

  393. #393 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 3:49 PM

    Chor Chori say jaye, haira phairy say na jaye! Aur socho Aamir kay ban ko kum keranay ki, yehi hoga!

    A Pakistani by the name of Sajid Khan has been arrested in Dhakka for his alleged involvement in spot fixing. Details coming in about who is involved from the players side as some of the players telephone numbers are found on Sajid’s cellphone

  394. #394 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 3:52 PM

    NewGuy

    No Sehwag and Tendulkar in Asia Cup squad.

    England won the toss again and are batting first.

    Pakistan playing the same team as 2nd ODI, hope Misbah make batting order changes?

  395. #395 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 5:37 PM

    Malik did not make any effort to dive and catch that lob from Morgan on Afridi’s bowling the ball fell just 2 feet from him and he simply bent down — could have dived and got it, but one catch was enough for Meesna to prove his fielding effort. Chotta Khatmal missed a stumping chance in the next over @ Hafeez’s bowling and it was again Morgan, lucky that he did not stay long.

    Ajmal bowled superbly except for a bad ball that Patel hit a six and the next ball he miscued for a four behind the wickets 10 runs in two overs, otherwise his figures are excellent.

    KP played an anchor role and Cheema offered him the last ball on a silver platter to hit it high into the stands for a six. That was such a stupid ball. Unbelievable. Otherwise England would have been under 125 a psychological pressure. Now the target is 130

  396. #396 by raju on February 27, 2012 - 6:47 PM

    pk on way to win this one bt questions remain

  397. #397 by raju on February 27, 2012 - 7:15 PM

    dafffffffffffffffffffffffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hojaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa khwerrraeyyyyyy

  398. #398 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 7:17 PM

    laanat on misbah, jeeta howa match hara diya ULLU ka pattha

  399. #399 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 7:18 PM

    This is not the first time Misbah has done this, He should be kicked out of the T2o and ODI, come on mIsbahs supporters go and kiss his ass

  400. #400 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 7:19 PM

    Every single person (except for one may be) is cursing Misbah again, the whole stadium is cursing Misbah Ch2Sulphate

  401. #401 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 7:21 PM

    Why the F he had to take the game to the last over, they were comfortably placed to win and he started tukk tukk from the moment he came, Shafiq, Akmal both got out because of being under pressure, Afridi should have dived to save his wicket but he never thought that the ball was coming to his end.

    Misbah should have sent Hammad and Afridi before him, Malik saved his ass again by not coming in to bat.

  402. #402 by Raju on February 27, 2012 - 7:21 PM

    Jk

    kalejey mein thandak padr gae

    itni zillat

    sorry dhobi is much better crktr than pitbah

    dhobi would have atleast won this one

    shame butt jr

  403. #403 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 7:24 PM

    Raju — everyone is so pissed off because this match was in PK’s pocket and this is the first time England has defended such a low total of 129 what a shame Misbah tujh par Millions ki Laanat

  404. #404 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 7:35 PM

    Did anyone hear Misbah’s post match comments with Amir Churail? What a load of BS, “save wickets and play normal cricket.” With 7 wickets in hand and 49 in 42 balls and he lost this match only because of his negative approach.

  405. #405 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 7:40 PM

    When Dernbach took Misbah’s wicket on the last ball he lifted his shirt and showed his tummy to Misbah, what was that for?

  406. #406 by Raju on February 27, 2012 - 8:00 PM

    Jk

    sorry to say although pk lost but today our stance is vindicated.all the pro mishaps who were calling us afridi fans must now be in a state of shock.its a victory of our theory,better insight and understanding of crkt. People thought we were senseless abusers but time has shown who worshipped the rising sun.

    Kheera has messed with the media and now he’s in big trouble.

    Jk,please put yariety of sabzi in new blog like gajr,kakdri, mouli etc.

    Dernbach was showing him guts and telling him his auqat which is of a selfish, negative crktr.

    Mishaps and tendkar are 2 cancers in odi crickt and thdy are destroying future crktrs just for personal intrsts.go buddhas go

  407. #407 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 27, 2012 - 11:06 PM

    Raju

    Relax chill out, the new thread will be there to conduct analysis of the series but, here is an exclusive interview that Missy Baba gave it J.A.K. please read it and enjoy the ground realities. Thanks…………. and please do comment on that. Those who love and hate him both are welcome. Lets see what they have to say?

  408. #408 by NewGuy on February 27, 2012 - 11:40 PM

    Well .. well .. Misbah could not finish the game with a last ball SIX. He did not get a full toss like the one Miandad got from Chetan Sharma, instead he got a slow ball that had he picked it from the hand could have been easily hit for a SIX, but he did not pick the ball of hand and swung wildly, he missed and rest is now history.

    I followed the match as it was getting very tense, and at one point I thought Misbah is playing cool and will finish with a couple of boundaries in the penultimate over. Then Akmal had a brain lapse, and Afridi was ball watching. I thought with Afridi coming in one SIX or FOUR was possible, and that was all needed to get the run rate into singles.

    Misbah once again chocked big time when it was required to deliver, like 2007 T20 WC. Which changed the life of Dhobi.

    I couldn’t help laughing loud when I saw he got out on last ball, it was a tragic comedy scene, Misbah blocking until last ball had only himself to blame for needing a SIX off last ball.

    He should retire from T20 as it is a young man’s game.

  409. #409 by JAVED A. KHAN on February 28, 2012 - 12:15 AM

    Newguy

    Please check out the new thread………. thanks

    I am going to reply to your last comment on the new thread

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